@@nhagan001you don’t see it as incredibly embarrassing that you’re talking about flooding the comments of maybe the best movie centric UA-cam channel ever because they made a tongue in cheek comment lightly making fun of you? You realize this is how they shills act when people make fun of them right?
"This is the best episode of Star Wars television ever. Also the sets look bad, the dialogue is bad, the main character's and main antagonist's actress is bad, the writing is bad, and the main mystery is bad." Bog standard Disney shill.
One thing that I really, really can't stand is people saying shit like: "Why do you care" while at the same time jizzing in their pants when a lightsaber turns red, or that something is made for kids, when they have whole fucking rooms dedicated to that stuff.
My rule is, if the thing you're simping for and making daily news updates about is supposed to be a stupid kids show that adults can't criticize, then the fact that you're this obsessed with loving it should be a red flag for grooming behavior. Yall _really_ want to occupy the same space as adult Teletubby fanatics?
That is the single biggest red flag thing someone can say. Usually, those people aren't worth conversing with. They have nothing to say or are too cowardly to admit to some negatives in what they like.
"Why do you care" is the preemptive defense and dismissal of any criticism you might levy against them. It's an attempt to deny that you even have the right to argue with them about something they like. You have to _prove_ that you get to debate any particular point before you're even allowed to engage with them, and make yourself vulnerable by trying to explain yourself to an already hostile opponent. It's the cousin of "just let people enjoy things." It's disgusting sophistry.
Of all the stupid changes Disney brought, removing the name Slave 1 is one of the most inane. Jango named it that because he had been held as a slave in prison, so when he stole the guards’ starship, he named it Slave 1 to reclaim his freedom and identity they stole from him. But that was the EU, and Disney cannot understand good story telling.
'Your weapons. You will not need them.', because nothing in there could actually harm him. The point is that Luke still took them in with him out of fear. And what do we know about fear? I swear, it's like we watched completely different films.
Timestamps 0:00 Bantering 3:09 Skittles & Coffee 6:43 From the lands of Videogameland 33:14 AI Summary 33:36 Preamble, Pee & Peeks 39:48 Video 1: A Good Show 45:48 Pre-Judged 47:34 Outraged UA-camrs 48:50 Made For Children 57:28 Video 2: The Low Bar 1:04:11 Technology 1:09:29 Set design, Acting & Writing 1:15:50 Choreography 1:24:54 The Villain 1:31:50 The Prequels 1:34:08 Conclusions 1:34:54 Reminder 1:36:12 Video 3: The Isolationists 1:42:52 Canon 15:0:23 Referencing OT 1:53:28 Suspension of Belief 1:56:46 Standards 2:00:24 Grown Out Fans 2:10:30 Aggressive Ownership 2:18:15 Politically Charged 2:26:34 The Creator 2:28:40 Prequels & Sequels 2:32:00 Buzz Words & Objectivism 2:33:58 Video 4: RLM 2:36:00 Starving Children 2:48:44 Lightsabers 2:56:42 Favourite Acolyte Episode 3:03:15 Jedi, Sith, and Witches 3:43:20 Stop Watching It! 3:49:20 Conclusions 3:52:53 Gary Leaves 3:54:48 Elden Ring 4:45:20 Closing
I fucking love the little platoon. He has this capacity to cut through the fat and get to the nerve and the core of an idea. I admire his clarity of mind and analysis
He’s also accomplishing quite the insane feat by releasing a highly edited, hour+ long review of each episode of the acolyte every single week. It’s pretty impressive.
I'm tired of the "criticism only comes from a place of hate" discourse. Criticisms are how you improve stuff. If you just clap like a seal at the pretty light then nothing will change. I want Star Wars to be good again. Did you think I'd care enough to list what is bad about these shows if I didn't?
I generally don't criticize bad things. I just call them bad or garbage and move on. Sometimes i have a rant about how offensively bad the storytelling is. I spend the most time criticizing things I like. Something will have along the lines of 3 flaws and if those were fixed it would be nearing perfect. The wasted potential hurts far more than something being bad.
@MJelly-yj8kp Oh, it's an OLD EFAP meme from when Wolf was still a host. I think it wasa Brown Table video they watched when he says something like "why are people still talking about Captain Marvel? Spider-Man is coming out". In reference to The Don(peace be with him).
"it's for twelve year olds" - Then why is so much of the merch targeted for adults? Why are all the helmets, FX sabers and other high end merch made almost exclusively for adults? Why can i easily find full armor sets for adults, but kids only get Party city quality costumes? Where's the child size Black Series helmets? Why are some of the Nerf guns for 14+? Why are some Lego sets recommend for 18+? Now, why would a company make merchandise for people outside of the target age group of their franchise? It's almost like....its not made for kids, its for ALL audiences...
@@o00nemesis00o Maybe, but that it isn't why. It simply makes more sense to target a broader audience than to restrict yourself to one specifically especially when adults have all the money and children age, which is why you don't see the same phenomenon with Barney, or Sesame Street because those ARE actually "for children" and the difference is incredibly obvious. In an ironic twist, you could easily make the argument that the people making current day content are more immature than the fans they continuously try to demonizes. A majority of the people currently in the industry are so hung up on superficial things it makes you wonder how they live or call themselves an adult. Typically you learn to grow out of such things as children but are you really 50+ years old and still can't enjoy a movie, TV show, book or game unless the main character looks like you? They're so hung up on their "trauma" some of these people are still mentally stuck in High School....if you ask me, THAT is more indictive of immaturity.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx Nothing says "kids show" like incinerated bodies, sex slavery and warfare politics. I remember that episode of Sesame Street, don't you?
I hope every single video RLM makes from here on it is flooded with people saying: "Why are you talking about this? There are children starving in Africa!"
Why are you all so butt hurt over an obvious tongue in cheek comment? This is genuinely embarrassing. You’re actually acting like the lefties who shill Star Wars bc RLM lightly made fun of you
The good faith defense to this is that SWT saw this as if he was unfolding some political scandal that happened and people making fun of him for the overreaction was justified. That being said, using starving children in Africa to deflect SWT’s comments is not the way to do it as this can be said towards you when criticizing any form of media and this raises the question on how do we determine whether a piece of media or scene is serious enough to where your criticism is above starving children in Africa. The defense that the RLM crew never took itself seriously doesn’t work either as this leaves the question on if their media insight is a good enough reason to follow them because if so, they are unable to use this defense. I mean there is a certain channel who’s response to people saying that they make incorrect statements on movies they cover is that they’re just a**holes who b*tch on the internet about media so don’t take them seriously and that didn’t fly at all with the internet. If that isn’t a valid defense in making incorrect statements about a film I don’t know why we aren’t using this on someone who made a bad defense to deflect SWT’s reaction.
@@burnypython8230 you are way way overthinking this. People watch them because they are enjoyable to watch. What happened here is they made the mistake of poking fun at a bunch of self serious blowhards who now want to brigade their comments because they’re mad they got made fun of
It's sad that RLM can't be honestly inquisitive about the quality new Star Wars beyond the surface level. Rich has his "Jedi are weird cultists" schtick in his head, and Mike can't make peace with the fact that standards have indeed fallen further since Disney took over. Maybe the Prequels just completely shut down their ability to care, or maybe it is just coping over what they established their channel off of.
The secret is that Mike has never actually cared about Star Wars. The Plinkett Reviews are very well done from a humor perspective but the actual criticisms in it are often very off base or factually incorrect. It has good criticisms too for sure and the prequels have TONS of problems but RLM is wrong about stuff they criticize in many cases with them...mostly because they don't seem to actually care about Star Wars much. Mike has even said he cares about Star Trek, not Star Wars.
I have come to hate that term. Everytime I see someone using it, it is to defend shhit content with "you're not the target audience, you don't understand the message in it" and so on. They often throw the 'media literacy' in there to sound smart.
@@ithewho6603 I buried “Media Literacy” as an acceptable rebuttal after the “YMS vs Critical Drinker” stream. It was an easy way for YMS to cope and deflect his inability to defend his crap takes, as if it was EFAP’s inability to understand the concepts.
I about had a stroke when RLM equivocated right wing pundits ragging on The Acolyte with leftist wishing death upon the right wingers for not liking it. Like, yeah, those things are in the same category of comparison.
If I was an impoverished citizen in Africa being filmed on the street for a news story, I wouldn't want me and my kids' image being repurposed for some lame nerd-fight like I'm some wounded animal
Rag's comparison to mages in Dragon Age is spot on. Force sensitive individuals are more vulnerable to the dark side, so you want to bring them in and train them. The Chantry is a bit harsher than the Jedi though.
@@MrFallenone That's well said (maybe something a sith would say!) but I don't think that's the canonical lore. The dark side is supposed to corrupt you.
Anyone can be influenced by negative crap, so why wouldn't someone with force powers use it for bad stuff. Why wouldn't they use it to steal, or influence or whatever? It's why they're taken from a young age, cuz the chance to use it without their understanding of it at a young age would be rather destructive. You're gonna get the odd person who uses it for good but that's an exception to the rule. The Jedi order does what they do to prevent the worst outcomes that can befall them, whether as a result of their own actions or the actions of those around them.
It's so funny. When a show just poses the question and then the viewer has to do all the work, this is called interesting. "Are the Jedi bad actually and the real meanies for not letting space witches create life from the force and mind rape people?" Dunno, what is the argument from the Dark side user? "I just want to wield power in anyway I want and be my true self(gay metaphor)!"
He literally says "I just want to use my power how I want." But he's a fucking Sith, so that means he's saying "I just wanna kill whoever I want, but the Jedi keep getting in the way." Like yeah, they're the good guys. Like Star Wars was made so the Jedi are explicitly the good guys, and their side is the correct one if you want to be a good person. Then the Sith are the evil side explicitly, they're the ones that compromise every moral to get what they want, even if what they want is to protect their loved ones, they'll butcher children to do it cause the children will eventually be a possible threat. The Jedi were flawed, but the galaxy was objectively better with them around, cause their entire credo is based around justice and keeping the galaxy safe and avoiding war. New writers wanna insert all these things about "No actually the Jedi could be evil too, it's not just oversights or naivete, they just hate some people and want to keep them DOWN, so THAT actually is what makes the Sith, the Sith might be good guys who are oppressed you see." That's all bullshit, the Jedi are good, the Sith are bad, the Jedi can make mistakes and not realize a decision they've made can go wrong, but they're the good guys at the end of the day. That's why their genocide was such a tragedy, nobody weeps for the death of the Nazis, even if their police force really kept the streets safe.
@haku8135 And since Darth Bane and the Grand Plan is canon, "using my power how I want" as a Sith also means the ultimate goal of toppling the Republic, wiping out the Jedi, and ultimately ruling the galaxy.
Ah yes, a classic argument! "You don't understand the deep themes BRUH it's actually great!" -tlj fans, fallout fans, Ashoka fans, media journalists and every hack activist "media analyst " on UA-cam Get some new arguments you boring fools.
@@Sphoonx I disagree. I think more often it's the director saying the intended theme in an interview, or a character in the media all but turning to the camera and flatly telling you the intended theme, while the actual content of the media does little to nothing to support it, and sometimes even contradicts it. These people aren't reading into anything, that implies more original thought than is happening here. The ideas have been forcefully handed to them and they accept them without question.
List of moronic arguments defending The Acolyte (Yes these come from actual people) "It makes sense Horned girl performed better than the Jedi Masters because Smylo Ren was exhausted" "There are no retcons to Anakin or Ki-ADi-Mundi" "Acolyte is performing excellently because Disney said so!' "There are more of us than the haters" "Star Wars is for everyone!"
Well the first one is kinda valid, but they did not hint to it at all. It would have been cool if they would have done that to make their fight a bit more balanced and logical, with Qimir being way more skilled but his movement being slower. The rest have no substance
@@oscargruber8582 no. Your opponent being tired doesn't make you any better. The previous episode she was training with sticks like the childreb before they become padawans. The fact that the others didn't even get to block a hit while she has an entire coreography is just plot armor.
Yes, cuz four or five Jedi, Yord and Master Sol all had to be defeated before he wore out. Even tired Smilo should've just force pushed her or something. She's nothing more than a worm to him. He barely bats an eye at killing everyone even Mae but some kid is someone he won't use the force on to distance himself if he was tired. If anything I'm more likely to believe he was playing with her but Disney isn't creative enough for that low level of writing.
as a counter to Rags, its also possible that someone is still a Christian or becomes a Christian BECAUSE they listen to Religion debates and found the atheistic arguments uncompelling.
@@matthewmilam6578 personally I havent heard a single convincing argument for religion in these debates, but I can see how some atheist arguments like "we dont know" arent too compelling either.
@@XraynPR I’ve only ever found one Christian debater that was any good, but he was exceptionally good. He also had a book dismantling the arguments of Dawkins, Hitchens, and other new atheists. It was called The Irrational Atheist, great book.
Unironically wrestling WWE in particular has more consistent writing then the Acolyte like always running when pulled by one arm and Irish whips(back handed chops to the chest) always hurt when it shouldn’t
"Its like the government... making your own medicine." Its so freaking obvious it hurts. Smilo says that he wants to do his own thing. The Jedi didn't know about him at all. Doing his own thing, based on the show, means hunting and killing Jedi. Is that not a valid reason for the Jedi to attempt to prevent this? Or Palpatine, orchestrating a galactic war as a means to cover his rise in the senate to the point of chancellor... who didn't relinquish his powers and then turned a republic into an empire? Not to forget a Force capable coven of Witches... creating life. Or a Force capable coven of Witches, using the force in the form of sith alchemy. Creating unspeakable things with the force. Making Savage by corrupting and altering a person into a unstoppable killer, with force powers he didn't have before? There are so many examples as to why the Jedi have the right to test and train the children of others, beyond the scope of keeping the Sith from returning.
Rich has always had a disdain, if not outright hatred, for anything to due with Christianity (institutions, morals, values, etc.) so it's no wonder he has maintained a hatred for the Jedi, but it bleeds into his criticism, so much so, that he takes the default position of "Jedi Man bad". It becomes tiresome liatening to try to shit on them over and over. We get it, Rich! Take a step back already
I understand that RLM has never liked SW much but damn I didn’t think they could be THIS out of touch, even with Kenobi it wasn’t this bad. Next EFAP SWT should be brought on, I imagine he has plenty to say since he’s public enemy number one to the Disney Star Fans.
Kenobi destroyed stuff from both the prequels and OT. Acolyte ruined a few prequel stuff. I'd say Kenobi is still worse, but honestly your view is still legit. It's probably second or third worse with Ashoka.
If you've been watching Little Platoon's videos like I have, is it also weird for you to hear him actually saying Osha and not Occupational Safety and Health Administration every half minute?
starwars has hit the level of endless deconstruction that the very idea that the jedi are good at their core, and CAN be justified in their existence has become a foreign concept to some people. Its so fuckin boring that so manyy fuckin creators look to the jedi council and goes, "wow these guys are misguided and overly dogmatic, I MUST show everyone else these EARTH SHATTERING IDEAS" despite the fact thats the same idea literally everyone has. The jedi were flawed, yes, but they had a reason to exist. A lot of worlds were improved by their existence and teachings even with their flaws. Im sick of it tbh. It was a neat concept way back in kotor and the EU, now its one of the only stories people want to tell cuz its "interesting" to criticize them, but almost nobody being given the reins to starwars seems to realize theres ways to bork the concept. Namely fucking up trying to tell that story a thousand times in a row. As much as i dislike parts of Rebels, its portrayal of the jedi as a force for good is weirdly refreshing amidst the modern deluge of "oh but the good guys arent perfect so theyre bad actually" we have nowadays. Even clonewars tried to strike a balance between "jedi kinda suck" and "yeah but we kinda need them tho." This shit doesnt even acknoledge the jedi being justified in ANY capacity once dialogue starts. So fucking boring
Out of all the terrible arguments RLM made during their Acolyte review, telling everyone angry at the low quality of Star Wars, including Star Wars Theory, that they should care more about things like starving kids in Africa is beyond condescending. That line doesn't work when parents try to shame their kids into eating their meals, and it won't work here. This is not helped by the fact that RLM is the same people who felt the exact way when it came to Star Trek, but I guess Star Wars doesn't matter since it isn't as "intellectual" as Star Trek in their eyes.
@@PatrickOMulligan Lampshading your hypocrisy doesn't absolve you of your hypocrisy. In fact, that just makes it worse, because it makes it evidently clear that you are aware of your double-standard, but won't repent of it.
It was a joke dude. You guys are so so mad RLM made fun of you that you started acting like how the shills act to minor criticism. This is embarrassing
@@DaMaster012goodness gracious “repent” good lord I never thought I would see this audience embarrassing themself like this. Kinda embarrassed I like mauler watching you guys react to RLMs light riffing
@@TrueGamer22887 "this is embarrassing, oh, so embarrassing, I'm embarrassed, so embarrassing wow guys. wow. so embarrassing" you are the only person getting embarrassed here dude. right off the bat you're immediately doing the thing that you're accusing everyone else of doing - hopping in to shill for RLM and defend their shitty take. overreacting to people's ribbing at their "I was only pretending to be retarded" level """joke""".
@@reek4062I mean the newer products ARE worse. Doesn't mean that the prequels are well done but that doesn't change the fact that Disney star wars is just much worse lol 😅
Bluey is fucking Shakespeare compared to the Acolyte. They tell more interesting stories and morals in 15 minutes than Disney Star Wars has in all their shows put together. Do yourself a favor and watch the Sleepitime episode. A work of art that will stick with me for the rest of my life.
I’ve got 3 kids. My 3 year old and ten year old love Bluey. I enjoy it. I have my issues with certain things but overall pretty good. Each kid takes completely different things from each episode. And any adult that watched it would see the very adult messages throughout. Shit there’s an episode about jealousy that revolves around the moms sister not being able to get pregnant and being jealous of the family. And I’ll be honest. More episodes than I like to admit hit me in the feels.
I'd say less coffee for Rags, but now that we know, in depth, ad nauseum, about his coffee requirements, amongst other ravings and ramblings, I'll instead say "Less meth, Rags... PLEASE!"
I get frustrated with the Disney Star Wars because it could be so much better. Take Jecki; you could actually make her a pretty tragic character instead of someone I don't care about at all. A padawan who was always top of her class and felt pressure to be as good as she could possibly be, so she could help others. But that desire to protect and be the best jedi she could be, combined with being objectively better than other padawans of her same level, lead her to be a little headstrong and overconfident. Her whole life she's been the best amongst her peers but suddenly she is facing someone who is way above her. She starts off fighting Smylo with that same overconfidence but very quickly realizes she is in over her head. Jecki begins to get desperate and Smylo is just toying with her. Jecki finally experiences true fear, and we see the absolute terror reflected in her eyes as she is confronted with true evil for the first time ever. She quickly understands that the only thing she can do is play defense and hope for one of the other jedi to come save her before things go too far; perhaps we have an earlier scene to show this aspect of her character where she gets in over her head and Sol saves her, which damages her pride and drives her to prove herself and insist she accompany Sol on this mission. Smylo could have felt like a horror villain just casually brushing aside any of Jecki's offense as he relishes in how terrified she becomes over the 'fight'. Sort of like an evil Batman; utilizing fear and misdirection as tools to overwhelm the padawan he could easily just kill. edit: just watched the episode again and this would make Smylo's "You brought her here." line to Sol after killing Jecki extra impactful. I hate caring for things to be better... I'm going to go watch LotR Efap's again to feel better.
She should have been built up. She should have been close to becoming a knight, a lightsabre dueling progidy. Everyone should have been criticising her for focusing on duelling in a time of "peace", the other jedi learning blaster deflection for peace keeping. The earlier episodes she struggles with arrogance, but is competent. In the fight with Smylo Ren the others get destroyed but Jecki due to her extensive training in lightsabre combat fairs better, but Smylo Ren was just playing with his food. Jecki really gives it her all, even suprising Smylo giving the audience hope, but then Smylo goes on the offensive. We see her struggling but we think she'll escape, then she tragically dies. It's sad when we could write a better fight and character.
No, actually. It can’t be better. Unconcerned producers, marketing, and advertising dictate the events of the stories, hiring undeserving cast and crew for their connections and pr, using underqualified writers to create connective tissue and dialogue between action setpiece mandates in isolation to prevent collaboration, all supervised by an idiot in service to a studio head actively antagonistic to the ip and its creator but immune to comeuppance You *cannot* make something good out of that. Not even on accident.
Strength Knight Greatsword user here and honestly I can't relate with most of the Elden Ring complaints here, I just spend time learning the moveset and where to punish. Final boss's second phase is the only one I have an issue with, the first phase is easy to dodge and punish without getting hit tbh. Also wrong on how you can only roll to "dodge" attacks, theres a new talisman that gives your backsteps s and theres the new Deflecting Hardtear that allows you to perfect block attacks and take no damage like its Sekiro, also enhances your counter attacks (how I beat Rellana). Its also interesting to hear that Morgott is Theo's favourite fight mechanically when that fight has a lot of the same mechanics that he complained about when it came to Rellana. Attacking while you're healing? Morgott quickly throws magic daggers that hit (unless you're far away enough but this is also the case for Rellana). Weapon weight seems inconsistent? Morgott swings his sword really quickly but also has slow and delayed attacks like it changes weight. Get close when Morgott's just done some moves? Suddendly he pulls out magic dagger and hits you and then extends his combo further. Phase 2 attack that will hit most players the first time they see it? Morgott going into phase 2 for the first time looks like hes knocked down but then turns into an AOE attack, most who fight him for the first time get hit by it but dont fall for it again, like Rellana's moons. I get some complaints but this feels exaggerated. Watching the Rellana gameplay on screen was miserable. Not because Rellana was this super unfair fight, but because I had to watch Metal spam his Bloody Slash skill in the middle of Rellana's combo and spam roll the most telegraphed attacks (Something Margit should've taught you not to do already). If you're still doing that after 30+ attempts then yeah no wonder you didnt enjoy the fight, you're not even trying to learn the fight you're just trying to bruteforce it with Bleed.
Its like they're saying one thing but showing another, exactly. Theo is hyperbolizing like CRAZY calling this the worst game experience he's had in such a long time. Honestly I don't see how that's possible given the modern state of games unless he's somehow making the game miserable for himself, and I fully believe that his mentality is part of it as well. After all this is the guy that JUST wants it to be Dark Souls 1 AGAIN.
I've found on streams alot of ppl are struggling by locking on and dodge rolling far too much, I've found back step and strafe jumping non locked on to be far more helpful for alot of attacks. There's some silly design here but that's true of nearly all their games, I only struggled with final bosses 2nd phase for a couple of hours till I switched to greatshield and it was cakewalk.
@NimbusTM I wasn't talking about any of those. I was talking about how you *have* to circumvent how the camera works because of how the game was designed. Was Theo antagonistic, rude and annoying? Absolutely, but the camera point stands. I was pushing back against how you were dismissing it as "silly design," when it's something inherently broken.
@@justanotherday5833 no its the equivalent of watching a new hope and complaining and manifesting faults out of the aether for everything else star wars related because you refuse to even watch the other stuff properly because it isn't a new hope. its not insightful, its intentionally only taking a hammer out of a toolbag and attempting to put a screw in a board and then complaining that its not as fun as the nail you used 5 mins ago
The argument of "the jedi want all the guns" shows either an embarrassing lack of understanding of why the jedi seek out force-sensitive children or a profound and intentionally dishonest corruption of what they do. The jedi order teaches its students how to control their emotions so that they don't give in to the fear, anger, and hatred that could potentially lead to the dark side. Never understood why anyone likes RLM, and every time I see something from them they solidify that sentiment in my mind.
After watching Red Letter Media's take - To quote Luke, "“Amazing, every word of what you just said... was wrong.” Almost all of their thoughts and ideas about Jedi and the Light Sabers were addressed in the Original and Prequel Trilogy, and their novelizations. #1. ANYONE Can pickup and use a Light Saber, their entire weight is in the hilt while the blade weighs practically nothing (energy supposedly has a very minor weight). It takes a force wielder to use it effectively, since they enhance their speed and perception through the force. It also helps the wielder NOT hit themselves with the blade since it's so light and dangerous. #2. Episode 4: New Hope - Obi Wann is training Luke in the use of a Light Saber vs a practice droid. He has Luke lower the blast visor and let the force guide his hands to block and/or reflect the orb's shots. #3. Episode 5: Empire Strikes Back - Physical objects are NOT block or reflected by the blade, merely sliced. Which is why even when Luke was slashing through them, they still hit him. This includes bullets and knives (which the Acolyte Episode 1 got majorly wrong) and is one of the primary methods Mandolerians used to fight and hunt Jedi in the Old Republic.
Dude the stories about Mandalorians fighting Jedi were brutal. After learning they could deflect blaster shots back. They went back to good old buckshot and used the Jedi's instincts to block against them. The molten lead from the projectiles would just hit them in the face and burn them.
Definitely agree with #1 and #2, but #3 is wrong - the blade does block physical objects, which is also why Mandalorians usually failed hunting jedi. The blade will also cut through physical objects though, so if you continuously force push a large heavy object at somebody, they will hit you even if you cut them. Just like if you dropped it on their head, gravity would drive it down through the sword. A throwing knife thrown without the force will be blocked, however. Just like a projectile fired by a gun (which would also be vaporized by the blade if it's not more broad than the blade itself). If bullets easily beat jedi, everybody would use bullets. Facts it that it simply does not work like people think it does.
@@Arphemius The blade cuts the large object, but with enough momentum (such as a force push behind it) it will just split and continue through. As for bullets, it's two fold. You are right, when up against a slug thrower, the saber will melt the bullet. However in canon, a slug thrower that fires at the speed of an uzi/assault rifle would kill a Jedi. The Jedi cannot block all the bullets, and a normal robed Jedi would be shredded. However, even basic Star Wars armor from the old republic were capable of stopping slugs/rapid slugs without issue so they fell out of fashion and are incredibly rare compared to any form of blaster. (Meaning an armored Jedi would have no issue) As for Hunting Jedi, I am referring to the Mandolorian war, where the Mandos almost wiped out the Jedi and took over the Republic if it weren't for a few turning to the Dark Side, and the teachings of the Sith.
@@marbles8641 Yeah, but it has to be continuous momentum. The blade of a lightsaber does have a physical presence, otherwise they would interact with other lightsabers or vibroblades etc. either. So it actually would block the momentum of objects flying at the jedi like a physical sword would. As for bullets being unbeatable for a non-armored jedi, that's not really true. A jedi blocks by moving a sword to a place where a shot is going to hit, as well as boosting reflexes. A jedi is also extremely fast, fast enough to block a bullet (Revenge of the sith novelizations have Obi-Wan block 18 strikes a second) even if they didn't, although that often doesn't translate to the movies. Given all that, a jedi can easily block even an assault rifle's bullet stream by just moving the sword exactly where their opponent is aiming. Then the jedi could also just stop the bullets in mid-air with telekinesis, with a telekinetic shield around them. Even with slug throwers, jedi will win. They are extremely hard to kill. In the Mandalorian wars, I don't really get why you're saying they hunted the jedi to extinction. They attacked the Republic, but as soon as Revan turned up with the jedi, the Mandalorians were beaten back. The turn to the dark side happened after that as well. The civil war between jedi turned sith and the ones still loyal to the order, that is what drove the jedi to extinction. The Mandalorians did have teams hunting jedi, but more often than not, those teams failed and were completely wiped out. They certainly didn't do enough damage to stop the jedi from turning the tide in the war.
@Arphemius The only physical presence the blade has is energy. It has no solid presence beyond that. The reason vibroswords and stun batons can block the sword is due to matching the frequency the saber puts out, allowing them to connect. Even personal force fields can block a saber, but it uses up the battery quickly. (This was explained in KOTOR) I do remember a cheap trick from the old novels/expanded universe where a Jedi or Sith would change their Bladed frequency to get an advantage in a fight... making their saber initially unblockable, but that was a double-edged sword, leaving them just as vulnerable. The speed of a Jedi isn't in question, and yes, any bullet that hits the blade would be vaporized. A rapid slung slinger was supposedly faster than MOST Jedi reflexes could handle if they tried to block it. Good point about the blocking with a force push/grip, though. I was so focused on the saber usage that I honestly forgot that tactic. Quesion is, can they hold a bunch of bullets like in the Matrix. I will also fully admit all this is from lore I personally read over the years. When at home, I reference Wookiepedis to double check, but I can't tell you what's canon v. legends anymore. I still hold most canon prior to Disney as canon, though my brain may be mixing in both the table top and video games.
The people IN this show are defending the premise that your view of good & evil is just matter of perspective, while at the SAME TIME calling critics of the show as wrong & evil. The moral lesson we are apparently supposed to get out of this show is only one of "perspective," why am I not allowed to have the perspective that the show is sh!t? Wtf is Disney doing?
At this point I feel like Disney are so maliciously incompetent. I don't even find it worth my limited time on this planet to listen to, or care about what any of them say. The only reason I even remotely know anything that they say is because EFAP covers it.
Giving post-modernists moral relativism will result in this exact scenario, especially when those post-modernists have never given a single thought about their own positions and contradict themselves like this.
I like RLM but they're so out of touch when it comes to Star Wars. I never understood the argument often used by Rich Evans, when he claimed that you can't do much more with Star Wars. It wasn't until recently when they watched Andor that Mike and Rich finally understood the concept of the Expanded Universe. Star Wars has so much potential, but Disney simply refuses to take advantage of it and do anything cool with the IP.
Oh trust me, he has had some bad takes even during the Pre Rec livestreams. I’ve agreed with him on many things, but I’ve had my disagreements with his stance on the N64, Venom & Carnage, Star Wars, Doom 64, and so on. He even notoriously hates JRPG’s. In the Rich Evans family stream he was forced to play FFVII and was miserable.
He has a weird chip on his shoulder over Christianity and he hates the Jedi because he sees them as an allegory to Christianity, he has said as much on his prerecorded livestreams and is not just your typical fedora tipping redditor take on the religion it goes much further than that to the point that calling him hateful against it is putting it mildly.
2:36:47 Great point by Mauler. You can just throw the "starving African defense" back at the person. If you're saying that my online criticisms are petty (there are starving people in Africa for heaven sakes!) then your criticisms of my criticisms are even more petty.
Red Letter Media is too smart to be this dumb about their Star Wars Acolyte defenses. They should know how hypocritical and cringe worthy they appear with the starving children in Aftrica schtick. This leads me to beleive that they are being intentionally provocative for the purpose of engagement farming. I'd like to think they are being genuine but wanting to make money off of triggering us Star Wars nerds with their bad takes makes more sense to me.
These guys have been on the internet for a long time now. Go ahead and just watch the earlier videos and look at the complexion in their eyes compared to now. The dudes have aged, and they seem to consider themselves separate, so I can only imagine how much of the conversation they delude with Centrist condescension.
A lot of times your ego will make you see the world in really weird ways to avoid confronting certain things about yourself. With RLM, I seriously get the impression that they're total nerds about media, but they don't want to be see as nerds, especially as middle-aged men, so they go too far with the "We're not nerds, in fact, we actively mock nerds all the time," schtick with stuff like The Nerd Crew. Every couple minutes in their Star Wars and Star Trek reviews you'll hear a variation of "We're not nerds. Nerds are stupid and lame. We're definitely not manbabies." So, of course when all the nerds and manbabies are complaining about The Acolyte being bad, they'll say "Well, we're not nerds or manbabies, and we think The Acolyte is alright." It's kinda sad how obvious it is to everyone else except them.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx The thing is that their audience tends to not watch Star Trek, or only watched The Next Generation. You can see it with Lower Decks. They made a number of direct references to RLM in the show, but fans almost never bring it up because RLM fans don't tend to watch Lower Decks. So, RLM can just say anything about modern Star Trek and their fans will believe them. Like, RLM famously liked the Abrams reboot, that's why they said he should direct Star Wars. They also didn't think Wrath Of Khan fit in with the Star Trek universe and caused serious damage to the franchise which is probably more true than people want to admit. Wrath Of Khan really is a movie for people who don't like Star Trek, which is why people say it's the best of the movies.
I love Redlettermedia but their acolyte video was a mega stinker. How do you make a nearly hour and a half long video where you complain about how the politics surrounding the show have overshadowed most discussion about the quality/content of the acolyte, and then proceed to make a bunch of centrist takes about the political backlash and barely talk about the quality/content of the show :/
The real irony is that 90% of the show's (using the term as loosely as possible) dialog is one character telling another character things they already know. Poor Lezzye... so dishonest, so untalented, and so, so gay. 😂
Kept leaving and coming back, and every time I tuned in, they were showing Elden ring footage while Theo talked about how super crazy-amazing he is at the game, lol... Happened several times.
Woo! You guys are getting me through the "hurry up and wait" process the military always makes people go through. It's been a real pain having my life be put on hold by these people.
I think Theo legitimately is delusional when it comes to the souls series. "I've done things none of you would ever believe in this game". Most experienced soulsborne players do SL1 runs, the DLC is very doable at SL1.
I hate how many people like him have this "appeal to authority" mindset that just because they were good at some of the other games then they're clearly experts on others. Elden Ring is a game he's played once with a chip on his shoulder and a stubborn attitude. He doesn't know nearly as much about the game as he thinks he does. Especially compared to people who have been playing it consistently over the past 2 years
@@uhrwerk5505 I agree. When I say "experienced players" I mean the ones who have played thousands of hours of souls games like myself. His statement "I've done things none of you would believe" is the one I'm appealing to.
@@Terrbearr428 That is fair. When there are youtubers going around beating the game with only Law of Undead Smiting or whatever which takes 5 years to cast and does 2 damage, I‘m not sure what Theo could be referring to that he did that‘s unbelievable
Honestly, what's so ridiculous about people acting like the Acolyte is criticizing the Jedi is the fact that there are extremely easy ways to do that without making them evil. Make an entire show about how padawans suffer from the lack of proper parental figures during developmental years. Emotional stunting, abandonment issues, etc. It's not difficult, just don't give these projects to nepo-babies who don't understand basic logic, and give it to people who view the source material as an aid, not an obstacle.
Roughly 2 hour mark: You know this might be controversial, but I quite liked what Disney was doing with The Muppets about 10 years ago. I liked the 2 movies, I liked the sitcom, but despite my positivity, Disney still put the Muppets on ice. I miss the Muppets, but I don't trust current Disney with them. Maybe if I loudly hated The Muppets back then, they would still be around.
Funny thing about Rag's Dragon Age comments, is that the later games show that despite the Chantry's & Templar's inconsistent & occasionally cruel treatment of mages, they ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT & JUSTIFIED IN THEIR ACTIONS! Mages don't just 'have magic' but using it puts them in direct connection with spirits & demons(which, are actually the same thing) and thus the constant threat of possession if not cautious & properly trained. And a possessed mage is essentially a reality warping walking nuke. In the first game alone, a child with magic that was not properly trained got possessed and massacred a town. Also a mages tower get practically destroyed for similar reasons with massive loss of life. There are repeated examples of why this system arose, why it's so strictly enforced, & why mages are so feared, well before the rebellion & mage civil war that erupts in Inquisition, which is nigh apocalyptic on its own before the big bad(also a mage,that tried to invade heaven) kicks off an actual apocalypse in the chaos. The other societies in the settings have their own controls( elves banish children with magic if they already have too many mages, the Imperium had the exact same system as the Chantry more or less, but the mages took over and run it now, the Qunari do like everything else and strictly control and brainwash their mages).
This might be a weird comparison, but these people who think you are supposed to like everything no matter what, remind me of the people in the fat acceptance community. The way both groups attack a person who disagrees with them, comes across as both extremely insecure and immature. It's like both groups think the criticism of the product/ideology reflects badly upon themselves. It does and it's freaking hilarious but also incredibly pathetic.
The first guy you showed heavily moderates his chat, he doesn't allow for any debate or alternative views in the comments. It's so jarring if you're used to normal people who can just disagree.
@@MegaSpideyman it was quite a culture shock. I don't tend to go into militantly progressive spaces. But they're all jannies and so they won't debate you, they just ban you instead. Imagine having nothing better to do with your life than moderate UA-cam comments.
" It's not good and evil is about power and who is allowed to use it " This phrase means nothing because if we start discussing the question of who should have the power it ultimately boils down to : we want good people to have power because bad people will use power to fuck everything up.
Same thing happened to me with their The Force Awakens review. Then again, they did jump to the studio to film the video straight from the theater, so they had no time to marinate that movie at all. Once they put the video out, it's really hard to backtrack afterwards. I completely agree with Mike on his take on, if I don't *enjoy* something, I'll stop watching. I don't understand why the panel seemed so offended by that, since they apparently get some enjoyment out of watching and discussing these presumably garbage shows. So, obviously Mike wasn't talking about them, just the general audience, since it doesn't make much of a dent on the streaming service's database, if some UA-camrs stop watching a show. I guess it reminded them too much of the _"And if you don't like my politics, don't buy my book."_ activist.
As a long time Star Wars fan anyone who doesn't agree that the jedi are the good guys was never really a fan because they don't understand the most basic thing about the force.
Yeah there seems to be a strand of 'enlightened centrism' when it comes to the force, some people who believe that the Light and the Dark Side should both be used. To say the least, things are not so simple
@luisgustavo6117 Honestly I think alot people don't understand morality nowadays. As a kid Star Wars was great because it was a manifestation of what good vs evil meant to me. Nowadays apparently the jedi are scheming weirdos and the sith are misunderstood. What's next? Nazis are misunderstood too?
One look at the first subject of this video confirms that whenever a light saber is activated, he has to change his pants because of all the soy that just exploded into them. 🤮
Lol at Theo raging out about elden ring and other people’s opinions on it, then saying later that people who can’t respect other peoples opinions are insane and are incorrectly using the internet.
@@mrkennady That's Metals gameplay. And so what we all brag about being better than others at games. Plus he was pissed off with the "git gud" and "skill issue" comments which, in all honesty, are pretty retarded. It reminds me of the lackluster attempts by shills to get rid of criticism for shit media like Star Wars or Star Trek or whatever.
3:19:30 - The Chantry exists for a good reason, since any unsanctioned mage is literally a free doorway for Daemons as entry into the world... much like psykers in Warhammer 40K. And of course, the later games completely forget this, even DAII portrays them a cliche religious overzealous villains.
Gee, what would Christians have done to a gay dog to make him not really like them very much? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. People that look at Christianity and pretend they don't cause enormous problems because of their fucking magic man are so annoying.
@@archstanton9073 Unlike palestine on the other hand, which is 'definitely' 100% pro "human rights" - and 'especially' that specific group. Christianity is the most intolerant religion in the world and anything bad that has ever happened is their fault.
Alot of Star Wars Lightsaber fights, most in fact rely on the setting. Like Duel of the Fates, Mail is kicking Obiwan around the platform trying to get Quigon one on one, or the laser doors seperate them and he gets his chance. Count Dooku vs Yoda, he collapses a Pillar to distract Yoda so he can run. Anakin vs Obiwan. Lava is everywhere, the characters ohysical location is dangerous where they are having to stop fighting at points to stay alive. ESB, Vader throws chunks of Metal and piping at Luke before trapping him on this catwalk over a pit. And in the acolyte, the same fight could have been in the desert, or on an ice planet or lava world and jt wouldnt make one difference
I was kinda on board with Theo until he said that Skyrim and Elden Ring offer similar experiences and that's such an absurdly reductive thing to say that I can't help but assume he's off base as a result. I'll wait to see his video and to be honest I'm not that invested in elden ring but that is an insane statement to make.
Can you explain why it's so insane? I don't play soulslikes, but I watched Mauler's ER streams and honestly I got the same impression as Theo just from that. Just a whole lot of meaningless exploration to give you more loot and levels punctuated with high octane but very narratively weak main story quests that rely on the game's gimmick to dish out an adrenaline rush into more exploration for the player to chill out with.
@mrmcawesome9746 its overly reductive. Skyrim is an rpg whose main focus is the story and character progression with a fairly minimal melee combat system. Elden rings main focus is the combat. In terms of style, objective, aesthetic, gameplay, and narrative, the two games are not even in the same genre let alone subgenre. Like even in your statement here, if I am that reductive when talking about games almost all games are going to sound identical. That description could as easily apply to breath of the wild and runescape as it does skyrim and elden ring.
@@IvanVanncheskov Firstly, almost all _open world pseudo-RPG's_ are going to sound identical, you mean. Because they _are_ almost identical in their core gameplay loop, which has been a massive point of criticism for the industry for years now. BotW does it a whole lot better by making exploration a more integral part of the experience instead of just an endless downtime activity, but it shares almost all of its flaws with games like Skyrim, yes. I've never touched Runescape, but I didn't know it had high octane story moments? Last I checked it was an MMO too. Secondly, let's actually go into detail here on what you said. Style, yeah, they're different, but they're still in the "realistic-looking western medieval fantasy" genre, it's not like we're talking about Ori and the Blind Forest here. Not like it matters to the main point either though. I would ask you to define objective before I grant your point, because I think it depends. Both games share the meta objective of keeping the player engaged for as long as possible on their core exploration->main gimmick(boss for ER, big questline for Skyrim)->exploration loop, but you could argue there's a difference in design objective in that Skyrim wants to be more of a power fantasy while FromSoft's whole shtick is the difficulty. Again, they're not the same, but not completely different either. They're closer to each other than either would be to a mobile game that follows the same endless open world grind formula for example, I think that's pretty acceptable to say. Aesthetic... we're even further away from the point than with style, hot damn. Yes, they're different, but again, just for arguments' sake considering it doesn't even matter to the main point, they _are_ of the same genre. Compare them both to say, a japanese visual novel for example, and you can see they're clearly closer to one another than that. Gameplay, again, they are in very similar ballparks, Elder Ring just narrows down the player's options and increases the difficulty and breadth of the enemies while Skyrim does the opposite, dumbing down combat but giving the player lots of spells and shouts and whatnot. At the end of the day they both follow the same pattern of mashing your build's relevant attack and healing mid-fight until the enemy health bar goes down, again way more similar to one another than either would be to Breath of the Wild for example (complete with finding companions/summons during your exploration like they're pokemon? didn't even think about this before). And way, _way_ more than either would be to a more combat-oriented game like Sifu, Monster Hunter or Hades. The point is that if you hate Skyrim for the endless meaningless dungeons and overworld quests meant to keep the player busy instead of providing any substantive content, or for the simplistic manipulation of its bombastic story moments meant to distract the player from the repetitiveness of the experience, you ought to at least recognise that Elden Ring uses the exact same formula, it just looks better and is a Soulslike. Not to say that the formula is inherently horrible, just that a lot of people don't really care about what they profess to hate about Skyrim as long as its presentation is cool enough. Like looking at it in depth like this I'm even more convinced that Theo had a point than I was when I first heard it, so I'd love to hear if I've just completely missed something or what?
In defense of RLM: They truly do not give a shit about star wars. They want it to die so when they say "who cares" it's because they can't fathom anyone giving a shit about the ip anymore. Because they are treckies. XD
Then they should shut the fuck up or get an actual Star Wars person on their show. I'm so sick of these hacks talking about shit they either don't know and won't learn the stuff or hate it and try to drum up discourse and attack people with legit criticism instead of engaging it in civil talk.
@@LobsterwithinternetThen why do they care so much about Star Wars fans not liking modern Star Wars content and making such imbecilic arguments in the first place? Heck, why even bother covering Star Wars related stuff if they're Star Trek fans?
27:46 FS is not manipulating you into rolling at a bad time. Those attacks are delayed so you have time to recover stamina/get into position for a charged heavy-attack. I held this same sentiment on my first playthrough. Then, on my second run, I tried playing around with those delayed attacks and discovered they were very easy to deal with. You can easily block, roll, parry, or jump over those delayed attacks as soon as the attack comes out; they are 100% reactable. I had a ton of problems with Elden Ring on my first playthrough, but then I stopped treating it like a sequel to Dark Souls. It’s much like Sekiro in that regard. Edit: 3:55:26 Christ, this is a gross oversimplification of ‘Souls combat’…and this isn’t a ‘Souls’ game. This whole rant sounds like me bitching about Maliketh during my first playthrough. The combat is clearly more complicated than you understand because R1 attacks in ER are almost useless against bosses unless you’re simply trying to get in a quick hit. The real damage in ER comes from breaking an enemy’s posture, which is done with jumping heavies and charged R2s. You can hit a boss with R1 attacks all day and never break their posture. As for dodging, it’s okay...but in many cases, jumping over an attack is better in every way, especially when it’s a sweeping attack or a ground AOE. Jump a Crucible Knights tail-sweep->confirm into jumping R2->watch him crumple.
Thank you lol. Its like complaining you cant block in bloodborne. The bosses may slightly look like DS bosses, but they arent. Elden ring leans into high fantasy and the wild stuff bosses can pull off represent that. Its like the complaint about "anime moves", they're meant to be dangerous attacks that, if properly handled, can be used to deal a ton of damage to the boss
@@Schlumbuo Sure do love waiting a minute or two for them combos ti expire. That’s super fun, or how the camera is the worst it’s ever been. Super engaging stuff right there
@@bender5271you're not waiting that long for combos and if you are that means you didn't learn the fight very well. Most boss combos have openings in the middle of the combo or can be spaced around to attack them when they wiff
and that's a horrible way to do it. Absolutely terrible. I don't believe anyone would ever do it. How you add a break into attacks: Enemies jumping back, crouching down, jumping into the air or pausing in a passive stance. How FS baits dodges: Enemy winds up an attack and holds their sword in the air and walks towards you... and keeps walking into you, pushing you with their stomach, before finally striking down. The difference is obvious. Do better.
Theo's philosophy on what constitutes good enemy design is... interesting. It sounds like he's saying that, because he's good at the game, anything that he can't beat the first time he sees it is poorly designed. This comes across as very arrogant. As a musician, I don't blame the composer if I can't sight read a difficult piece. I just accept that I need to practice the piece, and when I eventually pull it off, it can be very satisfying. It's fine if Theo doesn't enjoy this kind of challenge, but he also acts like everyone should agree that it's objectively bad, which just comes across as obnoxious.
It's insane how it's his biggest complaint (or at least the one he screams about the most) and it's a complaint that's fixed once you learn it. Most of his issues are just from a first playthrough experience with a chip on his shoulder and a stubborn attitude. Once you've actually played the game a few times and really explore the insane amount of options the game is just a fun sandbox. Sure it's not as refined as a game like Sekiro or some action games like DMC but to sit here and say it was the worst gaming experience of his life says more about him than Elden Ring
It really sounds like, just like his original er complaints, he is completely unable to get any enjoyment out of the exploration of the game, which means that for the dlc he’s making both the exploration and bosses way worse for himself
Yeah it crazy to me how he can’t wrap his head around the Scadutree fragments. They are there to make sure there is still a form a progression because From wanted people to feel like they could get better still. For some reason it’s really hard for people to comprehend
In his view, which I think is good, is that telegraphs should convey the information necessary to dodge an attack on your first attempt. Having to just experiment with rolls and positioning because you can’t tell what’s going on (Radahn phase 2 in a nutshell) isn’t fun for him. It can feel like you are wasting time because the game isn’t even trying to be fair with the telegraph. It’s not wrong to like it this way, but I feel the same way as Theo. To players like us, this DLC is hot fucking garbage.
@@pphaver871I would agree if it was literally impossible to dodge one too many attacks due to jank and bad telegraphing but that's objectively not true. The fact that mods specifically exist to turn even Malenia's attacks into what you describe is bad design makes the argument null and void simply because it is possible and can be done in other ways. I mean, people have literally come close to first trying many bosses based off of in the moment trial and error from telegraphed attacks and proper responses to them for both the base game and the dlc. Looking at the camera example Metal gave, FromSoft cameras have always been pretty trash but I don't understand why the example video given didn't just have the player disengage the lock on. The camera screws up often when against a wall but you don't have to obey the lock on. There is an auto lock feature but you can turn it off in the settings so you can't blame the game for bad camera all the time. FromSoft games have always been about preparation and adaptation and even the massive enemies in ER all have blind spots in their hit boxes. Many people also instinctively roll to avoid damage when back steps and jumping exist and yes, they have proper I-frames to be more than viable in practically all fights. It's understandable if you just hate memorizing patterns and specific hitboxes but FromSoft games have always pushed this method of learning in literally everything they make even if its frustrating. Even the games people think are the best have heavy memorization built into their fights, some in different ways like Sekiro which requires a variety of counters rather than dodging. I can agree to some extent about general jank and alternating attack patterns but it's hyperbolic to an unreasonable degree to say that this is all new and horrendous design when every game before ER has the same sort of formula, altered to varying degrees that yes, some people hate and despise because they believe the game is out to get them. The only game I could ever agree consistently screws the player over because of bad hitboxes is DS2. That's it. Everything else really does just boils down to tolerance and even "git gud"
Seems like Theo has never heard of shields. There are wind ups that hold before attacking but the shields in the game are so op that you can easily learn the timing for any attacks at very little cost, i dont know what build hes using but even as a pure sorcerer you can wield a shield with 95% damage reduction with some combination of talisman and flask. If you are purposefully challenging yourself by not using shields or summoning a mimic or npc to split agro to learn timings and ignoring other opportunities to lower damage taken through golden vow, damage reduction flask and boiled crab dont be surprised when a endgame level boss is able to kill you before you learn his moves
Also from the noticeable delayed attacks I've dealt with so far there has been an audio cue for exactly when you need to roll, eg. Messmir's fire slam at the beginning, he flashes and makes a sound right when you need to dodge, same with the furnaces stomps so that you can jump them with or without torrent with your eyes closed
For the bad camera complaint I'll admit it's not as bad for me because I've bound the roll button to the rear paddle of my dualsense edge so that I can keep my thumb on the camera stick, but if it's an issue for you try rebinding roll to L1 if you don't use shields often
I've only beaten 4 rememberence bosses so far ( putrecent knight, rellana, dancing lion, midra) and a few of the npc ones so maybe my opinion will change but I've beaten all of them without using the skibidi blessing, (except midra who I summoned some jolly co-operation for) I've gotten to the point on messmir where I'm considering applying the blessing for some extra defense but I've gotten him to 20% a few times with just the npc and mimic tear
"I've done things in dark souls you couldn't even imagine" People will say things like this and wonder why fromsoft keeps making boss movesets harder and harder to predict.
It's almost as if these are two entirely different games, and these big over the top anime moves work much better in monster hunter than in Elden ring due to the superior combat. What a shit take, you seriously think his argument is "Big anime moves are always bad"? Fucking hell.
@@tomjames9681 There's that as well, outside of the gameplay method of dodging these, of which monster hunter has many more options to do so. And outside of rise, which is specifically made to be more "Anime" than the others, these big nuke-type attacks are much rarer than these idiots, most of which probably haven't touched a single game, like to believe.
Kinda rubs me the wrong way theo says rolling is all you can do and how you cant change it much when theirs 3 different rolling weights and ashes of war that are specifically designed to be a better roll
Not to mention jumping is an extremely powerful option that avoids many attacks, is a gap closer, and jumping R2s do mega posture damage. It's also ignoring how powerful guarding and shields are in Elden Ring compared to every other souls game
Rolling, jumping (which includes some ashes of war that put you in the air), spells, shields... literally side stepping attacks too, i think people who think rolling is the only way to deal with attacks would be surprised at how many attacks you can avoid just by good distancing achieved with simple walking or a little sprint. Rellana is the perfect example of this, you can back off a little and she will just be punching air for a while. If you know what you're doing a simple shield can easily dominate her in the entire fight too, so many of her attacks are parryable including the one that she does a 180° and to get behind you (and it's kinda badass to parry 2 of those in a row lol). If you are not good parry even just blocking her attacks and doing guard counters can net you a good amount of stance breaks.
@@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish depending on the build what? You can use Ashes of war or change your roll weight on any build in the game unless you use very spefic weapons where you can't change it and that doesn't matter beacuse ANY build can off hand a dagger with the bloodhound or Quickstep what's your point?
The 2 guys across a table are from Blind Wave, they baffle me. They like everything mainstream, which isn't really a shocker, which lead me to think they just like everything. Then I watched them watch the TV show Chuck and the movie Surf Ninja and both of them had them laughing the whole time. I expected them to be like "those were really fun", but they were super critical after they finished.
Regarding the comment that Elden Ring's combat is simplistic because you just hit dodge until you have time to attack, I can't help but feel like it stems from gaslighting by the Souls community in general. People have denegrated any technique that makes a fight easier to the point where the only "accepted" way to fight is to dodge/counter, and it better not be with bleed weapons. The first Mauler video(s) I ever saw was his rebuttal series to H Bomber Guy's take on DS2. In that, he took particular issue to HBG claiming that Bloodborne showed people the correct way to play Souls games, which was without a shield. Mauler remarked about how great it was that Dark Souls allowed for such incredible build variety, and I'm surprised it wasn't brought up here. You do not have to just dodge/counter. You can fight at range, you can block, you can rely on items, and yes, even spirit ashes. It's okay. Don't let the snobby parts of the community gaslight you into thinking it's not allowed or improper. Base Game fights were often quite trivialized by summons, yes, but have you ever consider that FromSoft tried to design the dlc in a way that better accounted for them? I can understand the feeling that the dlc punishes dodge/counter builds, but to call Souls combat simplistic because you act as though that's the only way to play is just plain dishonest. You can't say a game lacks complexity when you're not even engaging with half of the available systems.
The DLC didn't account for summons. Having more than 1 player still breaks the AI and is easy to abuse. The bosses being harder compensates for it, but doesn't actually solve anything. Super basic early 2000s multi-target AI: WoW NPCs will have attacks that drop the threat of their main target, usually by putting them to sleep or an equivalent, and cause them to switch focus irrelevant of player actions. They also have abilities that counter spellcasting. When their cooldown is up, they will look for any eligible target (irrelevant of aggro table) that's currently in the middle of a cast and use their skill on that target. ER has none of that. Hell, it's actually worse than DS2, because DS2 had boss encounters with multiple mobs where the mobs could splti up and attack different targets. In ER the boss will blindly pursue whoever last attacked them.
@@Wyzai I've seen the AI switch targets mid-combo and been caught by it plenty of times, not to mention the constant barrage of AOE attacks. Given the difficulty that people are having in general, the DLC fights seem to be handling groups well enough. Really gotta step back and ask yourself if it's a game problem or if you're a glutton for punishment. As you get more accustomed to a series, it's pretty easy to forget what it was like 1000 hours ago.
@@Wyzai Many of the DLC bosses will get far more aggressive in response to summons, and will often ignore the summons anyway. But I agree with the overall point, while I also think it's a bit of a mistake to constantly crank up the difficulty, but then also crank up the cheese. Like, alot of people want to overcome the challenge without a totally mindless strategy, but without also being miserable. There's less of a middle ground here.
It seems like now more than ever, people just refuse to engage in certain fictions. I feel like I used to see this issue mostly in horror, but it was manifest entirely different. I knew quite a few people who couldn't get into horror at all on any level because "it isn't real, and it can't happen" like yeah no shit, or they'd actively go into the movie/game with the mindset of "this will not scare me, I will not allow it." This is a complete refusal to engage with the fiction, usually for the express purpose of not enjoying it. This shit with Star Wars and the like is a near total inversion of that issue. When people like these projects, they feel that they have to rationalize it as being really well written, and thus, it is good because they personally would never enjoy something poorly written, so it has to be well written, and if it isn't, it actually is because "it's not real." So, let's get this straight, it's good because it's well written, it's well written in spite of the bad writing, and the bad parts because it's fiction and it doesn't matter or affect the quality of the writing because it's all fake anyway. Ok, alright, this essentially just boils down to, "writing doesn't matter, good because fiction." This is a refusal to engage for the purpose of enjoying it. This, to me, sounds an awful lot like an admission that it is bad, but they can't say that because they only like "good" things, which I find a little bit narcissistic.
I have an idea, maybe Smilo Ren killed the Witches and made it look like the Jedi did it. Maybe he was a teenager hidden in the Witches coven somewhere underground but his evil mind was able to influence certain people such as Mae. Probably a better story than what we will get, just throwing that idea out there.
As for if the villain is a true Sith or not, stuff like this was also touched upon in the Original Cel Animated Clone Wars. Count Dooku/Darth Tyrannus : You are more powerful than I have sensed. Asajj Ventress : The Dark Side is strong in me, for I am Sith. Count Dooku/Darth Tyrannus : Ha, ha, ha! A bold claim. But you are not Sith. [Dooku floats down using the force and stands before Ventress] Count Dooku/Darth Tyrannus : You wear the trappings of the Sith, you fight like the Sith. But this can be imitated, however. You lack a vital quality found in all Sith. Sith have no fear. And I sense much fear in you. Asajj Ventress : You are a foolish old man who knows nothing of the Dark side! [ignites her lightsabers] Count Dooku/Darth Tyrannus : [chuckling] Indeed? ua-cam.com/video/XbJcn8FcCuY/v-deo.html
To a degree, i get the idea of wanting to really defend a favourite show/series but even then, i struggle to see how the counters of "it's a dumb kids show", "space wizards" or "Starving kids exist" would help, if anything, it would probably do more damage than any criticism. I guess the main issue for me is that given it's my favourite show/series, I'd be almost unfairly critical of later additions because i want to hold it up to what exists... but to be fair, i'm no movie show reviewer essayist intellectual person. The funny thing is, the timing really works since in my case, my favourite series *is* finally getting a new movie soon. I WANT to look forward to it and be excited for it but a part of me is really worried it won't hold up. Hell, there was a spin-off that i've held in an unfair light. There was several forms of it (game, book, show) but i haven't really given the show itself a chance. I guess my point doesn't even apply in the case of RLM... I honestly don't know what to make of their take, they don't care but care that others care?
2:38:55 It's odd using starving people as an excuse to win an argument. If anything, it's straight up disrespectful towards them and their plight. People aren't rioting over Star wars. They aren't making mountains out of mole hills that would justify using "there are bigger fish to fry" as an argument.
Glad you guys decided to talk about RLM on this one, that was probably the only video of theirs I didn't finish in the 10+ years I've been watching them
RLM got what they wanted for Star Wars. So I don't really take their opinions on most anything serious at all. They're effectively part of the Hollywood problem.
@@MegaSpideyman In that Hollywood actually listened to them. No space politics, retconning the Prequels to effective non-existence for OT nostalgia, emphasizing practical effects, selecting JJ Abrams to direct, all that was done in TFA. The Plinkett reviews are how they got their fame in Hollywood and that's why they hang out with Patton Oswald and Macaulay Culkin.
I love the idea that Smilo is the witches' first attempt. The cult wanted to fight off extinction, succeeded in creating a male to help repopulate, and said, "...Nah, that can't be it. Let's keep trying." 😂
When you’re a starving Ethernopian, criticising The Acolyte is the only thing that brings you joy in life.
Marklar Marvin, the OG Schlurpo.
People should flood their comments section with "I wanted to like/dislike this video, but the Starving African Children..."
Watching starving Trump and Biden in Africa debating the Acolyte is the only thing that brings joy in my life.
That's like 3 tisms combined in one
@@nhagan001you don’t see it as incredibly embarrassing that you’re talking about flooding the comments of maybe the best movie centric UA-cam channel ever because they made a tongue in cheek comment lightly making fun of you? You realize this is how they shills act when people make fun of them right?
"This is the best episode of Star Wars television ever. Also the sets look bad, the dialogue is bad, the main character's and main antagonist's actress is bad, the writing is bad, and the main mystery is bad."
Bog standard Disney shill.
That should just cite how comically low the bar is.
"The Acolyte is good, actually" and other signs to identify brain damage.
The starving children in Africa have to beat the Elden Ring DLC before they are allowed food.
If you don't finish your Shadow of the Erdtree, how can you have any pudding?
That's just cruel
Too easy. They have to kill every ulcerated tree spirit while blindfolded, torch only, and on DK bongos
Great reference 😆
Guess I'll die .jpeg
“Africa had its chance”
"Were did you grow food? ON A FARM?!"
Best response to the Africa sophistry.
You thought you could threaten my fellow knight who says “ni”?
@@lordofthepizzapie9319 XD
Just as the spiders foretold.
One thing that I really, really can't stand is people saying shit like: "Why do you care" while at the same time jizzing in their pants when a lightsaber turns red, or that something is made for kids, when they have whole fucking rooms dedicated to that stuff.
Dude, he Vadered!
My rule is, if the thing you're simping for and making daily news updates about is supposed to be a stupid kids show that adults can't criticize, then the fact that you're this obsessed with loving it should be a red flag for grooming behavior. Yall _really_ want to occupy the same space as adult Teletubby fanatics?
That is the single biggest red flag thing someone can say. Usually, those people aren't worth conversing with. They have nothing to say or are too cowardly to admit to some negatives in what they like.
"Why do you care" is the preemptive defense and dismissal of any criticism you might levy against them. It's an attempt to deny that you even have the right to argue with them about something they like. You have to _prove_ that you get to debate any particular point before you're even allowed to engage with them, and make yourself vulnerable by trying to explain yourself to an already hostile opponent. It's the cousin of "just let people enjoy things." It's disgusting sophistry.
Arrested development? Never heard of it.
Of all the stupid changes Disney brought, removing the name Slave 1 is one of the most inane. Jango named it that because he had been held as a slave in prison, so when he stole the guards’ starship, he named it Slave 1 to reclaim his freedom and identity they stole from him. But that was the EU, and Disney cannot understand good story telling.
the EU sucks tho
Better than canon, in my opinion, of course.
'Your weapons. You will not need them.', because nothing in there could actually harm him. The point is that Luke still took them in with him out of fear.
And what do we know about fear?
I swear, it's like we watched completely different films.
Timestamps
0:00 Bantering
3:09 Skittles & Coffee
6:43 From the lands of Videogameland
33:14 AI Summary
33:36 Preamble, Pee & Peeks
39:48 Video 1: A Good Show
45:48 Pre-Judged
47:34 Outraged UA-camrs
48:50 Made For Children
57:28 Video 2: The Low Bar
1:04:11 Technology
1:09:29 Set design, Acting & Writing
1:15:50 Choreography
1:24:54 The Villain
1:31:50 The Prequels
1:34:08 Conclusions
1:34:54 Reminder
1:36:12 Video 3: The Isolationists
1:42:52 Canon
15:0:23 Referencing OT
1:53:28 Suspension of Belief
1:56:46 Standards
2:00:24 Grown Out Fans
2:10:30 Aggressive Ownership
2:18:15 Politically Charged
2:26:34 The Creator
2:28:40 Prequels & Sequels
2:32:00 Buzz Words & Objectivism
2:33:58 Video 4: RLM
2:36:00 Starving Children
2:48:44 Lightsabers
2:56:42 Favourite Acolyte Episode
3:03:15 Jedi, Sith, and Witches
3:43:20 Stop Watching It!
3:49:20 Conclusions
3:52:53 Gary Leaves
3:54:48 Elden Ring
4:45:20 Closing
Which part do they start on The Acolyte?
@@dadocta5168”Video 1”
@@unpopularopinions7407 cheers 👍
How tf you do this so fast?
You are awesome I hope you win the lottery
I fucking love the little platoon. He has this capacity to cut through the fat and get to the nerve and the core of an idea. I admire his clarity of mind and analysis
He's my fav reviewer on youtube at this point
It's all his posh British accent, really.
He’s also accomplishing quite the insane feat by releasing a highly edited, hour+ long review of each episode of the acolyte every single week. It’s pretty impressive.
I think he has an academic background in philosophy, along with a few other subjects. That might explain part of it!
He also has some creative insults that are always so decadent.
I'm tired of the "criticism only comes from a place of hate" discourse. Criticisms are how you improve stuff. If you just clap like a seal at the pretty light then nothing will change.
I want Star Wars to be good again. Did you think I'd care enough to list what is bad about these shows if I didn't?
I generally don't criticize bad things. I just call them bad or garbage and move on. Sometimes i have a rant about how offensively bad the storytelling is.
I spend the most time criticizing things I like. Something will have along the lines of 3 flaws and if those were fixed it would be nearing perfect. The wasted potential hurts far more than something being bad.
Why are we talking about starving children in Africa? Spider-Man is coming out!
I knew he was projecting when he roasted wrestler guy.
😂
Who?
i keep seeing this meme, but i still don't know the source
@MJelly-yj8kp Oh, it's an OLD EFAP meme from when Wolf was still a host. I think it wasa Brown Table video they watched when he says something like "why are people still talking about Captain Marvel? Spider-Man is coming out". In reference to The Don(peace be with him).
"it's for twelve year olds" - Then why is so much of the merch targeted for adults? Why are all the helmets, FX sabers and other high end merch made almost exclusively for adults? Why can i easily find full armor sets for adults, but kids only get Party city quality costumes? Where's the child size Black Series helmets? Why are some of the Nerf guns for 14+? Why are some Lego sets recommend for 18+?
Now, why would a company make merchandise for people outside of the target age group of their franchise? It's almost like....its not made for kids, its for ALL audiences...
To be fair, there are plenty of man-children these days.
@@o00nemesis00o Maybe, but that it isn't why. It simply makes more sense to target a broader audience than to restrict yourself to one specifically especially when adults have all the money and children age, which is why you don't see the same phenomenon with Barney, or Sesame Street because those ARE actually "for children" and the difference is incredibly obvious.
In an ironic twist, you could easily make the argument that the people making current day content are more immature than the fans they continuously try to demonizes. A majority of the people currently in the industry are so hung up on superficial things it makes you wonder how they live or call themselves an adult. Typically you learn to grow out of such things as children but are you really 50+ years old and still can't enjoy a movie, TV show, book or game unless the main character looks like you? They're so hung up on their "trauma" some of these people are still mentally stuck in High School....if you ask me, THAT is more indictive of immaturity.
Limbs get cut off, people die and quite a bit of spicy stuff. Yeah, def for kids.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx Nothing says "kids show" like incinerated bodies, sex slavery and warfare politics. I remember that episode of Sesame Street, don't you?
I hope every single video RLM makes from here on it is flooded with people saying: "Why are you talking about this? There are children starving in Africa!"
On it!
Why are you all so butt hurt over an obvious tongue in cheek comment? This is genuinely embarrassing. You’re actually acting like the lefties who shill Star Wars bc RLM lightly made fun of you
The good faith defense to this is that SWT saw this as if he was unfolding some political scandal that happened and people making fun of him for the overreaction was justified. That being said, using starving children in Africa to deflect SWT’s comments is not the way to do it as this can be said towards you when criticizing any form of media and this raises the question on how do we determine whether a piece of media or scene is serious enough to where your criticism is above starving children in Africa. The defense that the RLM crew never took itself seriously doesn’t work either as this leaves the question on if their media insight is a good enough reason to follow them because if so, they are unable to use this defense. I mean there is a certain channel who’s response to people saying that they make incorrect statements on movies they cover is that they’re just a**holes who b*tch on the internet about media so don’t take them seriously and that didn’t fly at all with the internet. If that isn’t a valid defense in making incorrect statements about a film I don’t know why we aren’t using this on someone who made a bad defense to deflect SWT’s reaction.
On it
@@burnypython8230 you are way way overthinking this. People watch them because they are enjoyable to watch. What happened here is they made the mistake of poking fun at a bunch of self serious blowhards who now want to brigade their comments because they’re mad they got made fun of
Gentlemen, we are only nine episodes away from another double dose of Batwoman.
how do you know?
@@sayonara3926swat It's tradition for them to drop a Batwoman episode in between each of the anniversary streams.
and Jim Sterling greeting us again... 🎩
@@noank9175 Don't get my hopes up, all i wish is more batwahmen in my life
I honestly can't wait. I've actually avoided any spoilers past the EFAP crew's reactions and can't wait to see what happens with the new Kate Kane.
It's sad that RLM can't be honestly inquisitive about the quality new Star Wars beyond the surface level. Rich has his "Jedi are weird cultists" schtick in his head, and Mike can't make peace with the fact that standards have indeed fallen further since Disney took over. Maybe the Prequels just completely shut down their ability to care, or maybe it is just coping over what they established their channel off of.
It's very curious, anyway.
The secret is that Mike has never actually cared about Star Wars. The Plinkett Reviews are very well done from a humor perspective but the actual criticisms in it are often very off base or factually incorrect. It has good criticisms too for sure and the prequels have TONS of problems but RLM is wrong about stuff they criticize in many cases with them...mostly because they don't seem to actually care about Star Wars much. Mike has even said he cares about Star Trek, not Star Wars.
@@yagamifire7861 regardless how many bad takes RLM has it's objective fact that both the prequels and the sequels are garbage movies, cope and seethe
@@yagamifire7861 prequel fans in a nutshell
@@wordshurt2676 you are correct
"Media literacy" = "don't ask questions, just consume product and get ready for next product"
Yep. New buzzword leftists love using.
I have come to hate that term. Everytime I see someone using it, it is to defend shhit content with "you're not the target audience, you don't understand the message in it" and so on. They often throw the 'media literacy' in there to sound smart.
But, think about Blade Runner...
@@ithewho6603 I buried “Media Literacy” as an acceptable rebuttal after the “YMS vs Critical Drinker” stream. It was an easy way for YMS to cope and deflect his inability to defend his crap takes, as if it was EFAP’s inability to understand the concepts.
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the cringe.
I about had a stroke when RLM equivocated right wing pundits ragging on The Acolyte with leftist wishing death upon the right wingers for not liking it. Like, yeah, those things are in the same category of comparison.
Arent rlm big lefties themselves? They dont make it their personality but haven't they always been on that side of the political spectrum
@@gkkk2735 Probably, but lots of lefties still recognize the BS of the woke progressive extremists.
If I was an impoverished citizen in Africa being filmed on the street for a news story, I wouldn't want me and my kids' image being repurposed for some lame nerd-fight like I'm some wounded animal
Agreed! They are not wounded after all
Rag's comparison to mages in Dragon Age is spot on. Force sensitive individuals are more vulnerable to the dark side, so you want to bring them in and train them. The Chantry is a bit harsher than the Jedi though.
Just a bit.
The dark side does not change who you are. Its a lie. All it does is reveal the rot within.
@@MrFallenone You could not be more fundamentally, fantastically, amazingly wrong.
@@MrFallenone That's well said (maybe something a sith would say!) but I don't think that's the canonical lore. The dark side is supposed to corrupt you.
Anyone can be influenced by negative crap, so why wouldn't someone with force powers use it for bad stuff. Why wouldn't they use it to steal, or influence or whatever? It's why they're taken from a young age, cuz the chance to use it without their understanding of it at a young age would be rather destructive. You're gonna get the odd person who uses it for good but that's an exception to the rule. The Jedi order does what they do to prevent the worst outcomes that can befall them, whether as a result of their own actions or the actions of those around them.
They could have fed thousands of starving people in Africa with the budget of the Acolyte.
millions lol, someone was flaunting info how one ep of acolyte cost more than godzilla minus one(which was below 10m I believe)
Not really, you'd make some warlords super wealthy though.
Millions for a day. But 1 or 2 thousand for life.
They want to distance themselves from "rtight leaning" people. They never do this the other way
They sure do like the "why do you care? there's starving people in Africa" argumentation until you use it againts what they deem worthy or sacred.
"i have experienced peak from-soft."
ah, so you have played Metal Wolf Chaos, eh?
That game about US president riding a mech ?
I think you meant chromehounds
It's so funny. When a show just poses the question and then the viewer has to do all the work, this is called interesting.
"Are the Jedi bad actually and the real meanies for not letting space witches create life from the force and mind rape people?"
Dunno, what is the argument from the Dark side user?
"I just want to wield power in anyway I want and be my true self(gay metaphor)!"
He literally says "I just want to use my power how I want."
But he's a fucking Sith, so that means he's saying "I just wanna kill whoever I want, but the Jedi keep getting in the way."
Like yeah, they're the good guys. Like Star Wars was made so the Jedi are explicitly the good guys, and their side is the correct one if you want to be a good person. Then the Sith are the evil side explicitly, they're the ones that compromise every moral to get what they want, even if what they want is to protect their loved ones, they'll butcher children to do it cause the children will eventually be a possible threat.
The Jedi were flawed, but the galaxy was objectively better with them around, cause their entire credo is based around justice and keeping the galaxy safe and avoiding war. New writers wanna insert all these things about "No actually the Jedi could be evil too, it's not just oversights or naivete, they just hate some people and want to keep them DOWN, so THAT actually is what makes the Sith, the Sith might be good guys who are oppressed you see."
That's all bullshit, the Jedi are good, the Sith are bad, the Jedi can make mistakes and not realize a decision they've made can go wrong, but they're the good guys at the end of the day. That's why their genocide was such a tragedy, nobody weeps for the death of the Nazis, even if their police force really kept the streets safe.
Just because he wants to lightsaber younglings doesn't make him a bad person
@haku8135 And since Darth Bane and the Grand Plan is canon, "using my power how I want" as a Sith also means the ultimate goal of toppling the Republic, wiping out the Jedi, and ultimately ruling the galaxy.
Ah yes, a classic argument!
"You don't understand the deep themes BRUH it's actually great!"
-tlj fans, fallout fans, Ashoka fans, media journalists and every hack activist "media analyst " on UA-cam
Get some new arguments you boring fools.
The worst part is that the themes aren't even deep or at least interesting. They're the most bog standard themes in existence.
It’s weird how people treat this corporate slop like it’s East of Eden or something.
90% of the time 'theme' is just synonymous with 'this is what I *read into* it', and therefore copium.
The best part of that argument is when more than one person uses it and none of their interpretations of the themes line up at all.
@@Sphoonx I disagree. I think more often it's the director saying the intended theme in an interview, or a character in the media all but turning to the camera and flatly telling you the intended theme, while the actual content of the media does little to nothing to support it, and sometimes even contradicts it.
These people aren't reading into anything, that implies more original thought than is happening here. The ideas have been forcefully handed to them and they accept them without question.
List of moronic arguments defending The Acolyte (Yes these come from actual people)
"It makes sense Horned girl performed better than the Jedi Masters because Smylo Ren was exhausted"
"There are no retcons to Anakin or Ki-ADi-Mundi"
"Acolyte is performing excellently because Disney said so!'
"There are more of us than the haters"
"Star Wars is for everyone!"
Well the first one is kinda valid, but they did not hint to it at all. It would have been cool if they would have done that to make their fight a bit more balanced and logical, with Qimir being way more skilled but his movement being slower. The rest have no substance
@@oscargruber8582 Smylo dispatched four Jedi and made Yord VPN wet himself in a matter of minutes...what was he tired from? Flying?
@@oscargruber8582 no. Your opponent being tired doesn't make you any better. The previous episode she was training with sticks like the childreb before they become padawans. The fact that the others didn't even get to block a hit while she has an entire coreography is just plot armor.
Yes, cuz four or five Jedi, Yord and Master Sol all had to be defeated before he wore out. Even tired Smilo should've just force pushed her or something. She's nothing more than a worm to him. He barely bats an eye at killing everyone even Mae but some kid is someone he won't use the force on to distance himself if he was tired. If anything I'm more likely to believe he was playing with her but Disney isn't creative enough for that low level of writing.
"It was made for twelve year-olds."
as a counter to Rags, its also possible that someone is still a Christian or becomes a Christian BECAUSE they listen to Religion debates and found the atheistic arguments uncompelling.
That's even sadder than getting indoctrinated from childhood.
@@akashajones6079 Why?
@@matthewmilam6578 personally I havent heard a single convincing argument for religion in these debates, but I can see how some atheist arguments like "we dont know" arent too compelling either.
@@XraynPRthe fact that atheist just blindly believe so much unknowable shit, is enough reason to be religious.
@@XraynPR I’ve only ever found one Christian debater that was any good, but he was exceptionally good. He also had a book dismantling the arguments of Dawkins, Hitchens, and other new atheists. It was called The Irrational Atheist, great book.
As a parent to a 12 yr old I refuse to subject him to the garbage that is the Acolyte.
12 yr olds deserve good story telling too.
thank fuck for stuff like Avatar the Last Airbender
Good for you.
@@MegaSpideyman what a pathetic reply
Show him shows from the 90s and early 2000s. Star Trek shows before Discovery are very good for example.
@@youdonegoofed Thanks, I try! 😎
Picard dodging that laser like a dodgeball is hilarious 😂
Unironically wrestling WWE in particular has more consistent writing then the Acolyte like always running when pulled by one arm and Irish whips(back handed chops to the chest) always hurt when it shouldn’t
True lol
Chops hurt like a motherfucker. Nobody does a backhanded chop, they are always striking with their palm.
"Its like the government... making your own medicine."
Its so freaking obvious it hurts.
Smilo says that he wants to do his own thing.
The Jedi didn't know about him at all.
Doing his own thing, based on the show, means hunting and killing Jedi.
Is that not a valid reason for the Jedi to attempt to prevent this?
Or Palpatine, orchestrating a galactic war as a means to cover his rise in the senate to the point of chancellor... who didn't relinquish his powers and then turned a republic into an empire?
Not to forget a Force capable coven of Witches... creating life.
Or a Force capable coven of Witches, using the force in the form of sith alchemy. Creating unspeakable things with the force.
Making Savage by corrupting and altering a person into a unstoppable killer, with force powers he didn't have before?
There are so many examples as to why the Jedi have the right to test and train the children of others, beyond the scope of keeping the Sith from returning.
Rich has always had a disdain, if not outright hatred, for anything to due with Christianity (institutions, morals, values, etc.) so it's no wonder he has maintained a hatred for the Jedi, but it bleeds into his criticism, so much so, that he takes the default position of "Jedi Man bad". It becomes tiresome liatening to try to shit on them over and over. We get it, Rich! Take a step back already
I understand that RLM has never liked SW much but damn I didn’t think they could be THIS out of touch, even with Kenobi it wasn’t this bad.
Next EFAP SWT should be brought on, I imagine he has plenty to say since he’s public enemy number one to the Disney Star Fans.
Yeah it’s crazy how the shills always try to find a way to blame swt it’s annoying
Kenobi destroyed stuff from both the prequels and OT. Acolyte ruined a few prequel stuff. I'd say Kenobi is still worse, but honestly your view is still legit. It's probably second or third worse with Ashoka.
Damn we’re so close to EFAP 300. Feels like EFAP 100 was just yesterday.
This ISSSS EFAP!!!! "Snyder screams"
Efap 100 was wild. Tonald showed up and that was the biggest goddamn plot twist.
Why are you posting this, don't you know that there are people starving in Africa!?
What happened to the starving kids in China? XD
@@EpicJasonX9000Where'd you learn to starve? ON A FARM?!
@@EpicJasonX9000 you cant love an orphan.
Why are you posting this, don't you know there are people starving in Africa?
Every minute that passes, Africa loses 60 seconds
If you've been watching Little Platoon's videos like I have, is it also weird for you to hear him actually saying Osha and not Occupational Safety and Health Administration every half minute?
Hahaha yeah it's so strange hearing him say Osha
starwars has hit the level of endless deconstruction that the very idea that the jedi are good at their core, and CAN be justified in their existence has become a foreign concept to some people. Its so fuckin boring that so manyy fuckin creators look to the jedi council and goes, "wow these guys are misguided and overly dogmatic, I MUST show everyone else these EARTH SHATTERING IDEAS" despite the fact thats the same idea literally everyone has. The jedi were flawed, yes, but they had a reason to exist. A lot of worlds were improved by their existence and teachings even with their flaws. Im sick of it tbh. It was a neat concept way back in kotor and the EU, now its one of the only stories people want to tell cuz its "interesting" to criticize them, but almost nobody being given the reins to starwars seems to realize theres ways to bork the concept. Namely fucking up trying to tell that story a thousand times in a row. As much as i dislike parts of Rebels, its portrayal of the jedi as a force for good is weirdly refreshing amidst the modern deluge of "oh but the good guys arent perfect so theyre bad actually" we have nowadays. Even clonewars tried to strike a balance between "jedi kinda suck" and "yeah but we kinda need them tho." This shit doesnt even acknoledge the jedi being justified in ANY capacity once dialogue starts. So fucking boring
Out of all the terrible arguments RLM made during their Acolyte review, telling everyone angry at the low quality of Star Wars, including Star Wars Theory, that they should care more about things like starving kids in Africa is beyond condescending.
That line doesn't work when parents try to shame their kids into eating their meals, and it won't work here.
This is not helped by the fact that RLM is the same people who felt the exact way when it came to Star Trek, but I guess Star Wars doesn't matter since it isn't as "intellectual" as Star Trek in their eyes.
Pretty sure they admitted that about themselves.
@@PatrickOMulligan Lampshading your hypocrisy doesn't absolve you of your hypocrisy. In fact, that just makes it worse, because it makes it evidently clear that you are aware of your double-standard, but won't repent of it.
It was a joke dude. You guys are so so mad RLM made fun of you that you started acting like how the shills act to minor criticism. This is embarrassing
@@DaMaster012goodness gracious “repent” good lord I never thought I would see this audience embarrassing themself like this. Kinda embarrassed I like mauler watching you guys react to RLMs light riffing
@@TrueGamer22887 "this is embarrassing, oh, so embarrassing, I'm embarrassed, so embarrassing wow guys. wow. so embarrassing"
you are the only person getting embarrassed here dude. right off the bat you're immediately doing the thing that you're accusing everyone else of doing - hopping in to shill for RLM and defend their shitty take. overreacting to people's ribbing at their "I was only pretending to be retarded" level """joke""".
Sequel lovers: Don't defend what you love (ST), attack what you hate (PT and OT).
You'd think they'd have learned from Rose, but no.
Prequel lovers: instead of defending what they love, they say the newer product is worse.
@@reek4062name the lie.
@@reek4062I mean the newer products ARE worse. Doesn't mean that the prequels are well done but that doesn't change the fact that Disney star wars is just much worse lol 😅
Bluey is fucking Shakespeare compared to the Acolyte. They tell more interesting stories and morals in 15 minutes than Disney Star Wars has in all their shows put together.
Do yourself a favor and watch the Sleepitime episode. A work of art that will stick with me for the rest of my life.
I’ve got 3 kids. My 3 year old and ten year old love Bluey. I enjoy it. I have my issues with certain things but overall pretty good. Each kid takes completely different things from each episode. And any adult that watched it would see the very adult messages throughout. Shit there’s an episode about jealousy that revolves around the moms sister not being able to get pregnant and being jealous of the family. And I’ll be honest. More episodes than I like to admit hit me in the feels.
I'd say less coffee for Rags, but now that we know, in depth, ad nauseum, about his coffee requirements, amongst other ravings and ramblings, I'll instead say "Less meth, Rags... PLEASE!"
I get frustrated with the Disney Star Wars because it could be so much better. Take Jecki; you could actually make her a pretty tragic character instead of someone I don't care about at all. A padawan who was always top of her class and felt pressure to be as good as she could possibly be, so she could help others. But that desire to protect and be the best jedi she could be, combined with being objectively better than other padawans of her same level, lead her to be a little headstrong and overconfident. Her whole life she's been the best amongst her peers but suddenly she is facing someone who is way above her. She starts off fighting Smylo with that same overconfidence but very quickly realizes she is in over her head. Jecki begins to get desperate and Smylo is just toying with her. Jecki finally experiences true fear, and we see the absolute terror reflected in her eyes as she is confronted with true evil for the first time ever. She quickly understands that the only thing she can do is play defense and hope for one of the other jedi to come save her before things go too far; perhaps we have an earlier scene to show this aspect of her character where she gets in over her head and Sol saves her, which damages her pride and drives her to prove herself and insist she accompany Sol on this mission. Smylo could have felt like a horror villain just casually brushing aside any of Jecki's offense as he relishes in how terrified she becomes over the 'fight'. Sort of like an evil Batman; utilizing fear and misdirection as tools to overwhelm the padawan he could easily just kill.
edit: just watched the episode again and this would make Smylo's "You brought her here." line to Sol after killing Jecki extra impactful. I hate caring for things to be better... I'm going to go watch LotR Efap's again to feel better.
A genuinely good set of ideas for elevating such a character.
She should have been built up. She should have been close to becoming a knight, a lightsabre dueling progidy. Everyone should have been criticising her for focusing on duelling in a time of "peace", the other jedi learning blaster deflection for peace keeping. The earlier episodes she struggles with arrogance, but is competent.
In the fight with Smylo Ren the others get destroyed but Jecki due to her extensive training in lightsabre combat fairs better, but Smylo Ren was just playing with his food. Jecki really gives it her all, even suprising Smylo giving the audience hope, but then Smylo goes on the offensive. We see her struggling but we think she'll escape, then she tragically dies.
It's sad when we could write a better fight and character.
No, actually. It can’t be better.
Unconcerned producers, marketing, and advertising dictate the events of the stories, hiring undeserving cast and crew for their connections and pr, using underqualified writers to create connective tissue and dialogue between action setpiece mandates in isolation to prevent collaboration, all supervised by an idiot in service to a studio head actively antagonistic to the ip and its creator but immune to comeuppance
You *cannot* make something good out of that. Not even on accident.
@@lacidar3752Andor.
@@lacidar3752 I understand your point and mostly agree. I suppose I just have a sliver of hope that one day Disney will want to make money again.
Strength Knight Greatsword user here and honestly I can't relate with most of the Elden Ring complaints here, I just spend time learning the moveset and where to punish. Final boss's second phase is the only one I have an issue with, the first phase is easy to dodge and punish without getting hit tbh.
Also wrong on how you can only roll to "dodge" attacks, theres a new talisman that gives your backsteps s and theres the new Deflecting Hardtear that allows you to perfect block attacks and take no damage like its Sekiro, also enhances your counter attacks (how I beat Rellana).
Its also interesting to hear that Morgott is Theo's favourite fight mechanically when that fight has a lot of the same mechanics that he complained about when it came to Rellana.
Attacking while you're healing?
Morgott quickly throws magic daggers that hit (unless you're far away enough but this is also the case for Rellana).
Weapon weight seems inconsistent?
Morgott swings his sword really quickly but also has slow and delayed attacks like it changes weight.
Get close when Morgott's just done some moves?
Suddendly he pulls out magic dagger and hits you and then extends his combo further.
Phase 2 attack that will hit most players the first time they see it?
Morgott going into phase 2 for the first time looks like hes knocked down but then turns into an AOE attack, most who fight him for the first time get hit by it but dont fall for it again, like Rellana's moons.
I get some complaints but this feels exaggerated. Watching the Rellana gameplay on screen was miserable. Not because Rellana was this super unfair fight, but because I had to watch Metal spam his Bloody Slash skill in the middle of Rellana's combo and spam roll the most telegraphed attacks (Something Margit should've taught you not to do already). If you're still doing that after 30+ attempts then yeah no wonder you didnt enjoy the fight, you're not even trying to learn the fight you're just trying to bruteforce it with Bleed.
Its like they're saying one thing but showing another, exactly. Theo is hyperbolizing like CRAZY calling this the worst game experience he's had in such a long time. Honestly I don't see how that's possible given the modern state of games unless he's somehow making the game miserable for himself, and I fully believe that his mentality is part of it as well. After all this is the guy that JUST wants it to be Dark Souls 1 AGAIN.
I've found on streams alot of ppl are struggling by locking on and dodge rolling far too much, I've found back step and strafe jumping non locked on to be far more helpful for alot of attacks. There's some silly design here but that's true of nearly all their games, I only struggled with final bosses 2nd phase for a couple of hours till I switched to greatshield and it was cakewalk.
@@compostsmurf5519 but it's still bad design.
@NimbusTM so your issue is the phrasing and not the argument?
@NimbusTM I wasn't talking about any of those. I was talking about how you *have* to circumvent how the camera works because of how the game was designed. Was Theo antagonistic, rude and annoying? Absolutely, but the camera point stands. I was pushing back against how you were dismissing it as "silly design," when it's something inherently broken.
I enjoy Theos recurring appeaeances on the cast, also Platoon is a most welcome recent addition to the guest roster.
Yeah, Theo is pretty insightful when the conversation isn't related to videogames in any capacity.
@@Ron_Jambo_ you don't think his elden ring game rants are insightful?
@@Ron_Jambo_coming from someone who doesn't play video games btw, idk anything about what he's talking about
@@Ron_Jambo_Yeah Theo’s Elden Ring game takes are dog shit
@@justanotherday5833 no its the equivalent of watching a new hope and complaining and manifesting faults out of the aether for everything else star wars related because you refuse to even watch the other stuff properly because it isn't a new hope. its not insightful, its intentionally only taking a hammer out of a toolbag and attempting to put a screw in a board and then complaining that its not as fun as the nail you used 5 mins ago
The argument of "the jedi want all the guns" shows either an embarrassing lack of understanding of why the jedi seek out force-sensitive children or a profound and intentionally dishonest corruption of what they do. The jedi order teaches its students how to control their emotions so that they don't give in to the fear, anger, and hatred that could potentially lead to the dark side.
Never understood why anyone likes RLM, and every time I see something from them they solidify that sentiment in my mind.
Media is parroting Sith rethoric.
After watching Red Letter Media's take - To quote Luke, "“Amazing, every word of what you just said... was wrong.”
Almost all of their thoughts and ideas about Jedi and the Light Sabers were addressed in the Original and Prequel Trilogy, and their novelizations.
#1. ANYONE Can pickup and use a Light Saber, their entire weight is in the hilt while the blade weighs practically nothing (energy supposedly has a very minor weight). It takes a force wielder to use it effectively, since they enhance their speed and perception through the force. It also helps the wielder NOT hit themselves with the blade since it's so light and dangerous.
#2. Episode 4: New Hope - Obi Wann is training Luke in the use of a Light Saber vs a practice droid. He has Luke lower the blast visor and let the force guide his hands to block and/or reflect the orb's shots.
#3. Episode 5: Empire Strikes Back - Physical objects are NOT block or reflected by the blade, merely sliced. Which is why even when Luke was slashing through them, they still hit him. This includes bullets and knives (which the Acolyte Episode 1 got majorly wrong) and is one of the primary methods Mandolerians used to fight and hunt Jedi in the Old Republic.
Dude the stories about Mandalorians fighting Jedi were brutal. After learning they could deflect blaster shots back. They went back to good old buckshot and used the Jedi's instincts to block against them. The molten lead from the projectiles would just hit them in the face and burn them.
Definitely agree with #1 and #2, but #3 is wrong - the blade does block physical objects, which is also why Mandalorians usually failed hunting jedi. The blade will also cut through physical objects though, so if you continuously force push a large heavy object at somebody, they will hit you even if you cut them. Just like if you dropped it on their head, gravity would drive it down through the sword. A throwing knife thrown without the force will be blocked, however. Just like a projectile fired by a gun (which would also be vaporized by the blade if it's not more broad than the blade itself). If bullets easily beat jedi, everybody would use bullets. Facts it that it simply does not work like people think it does.
@@Arphemius The blade cuts the large object, but with enough momentum (such as a force push behind it) it will just split and continue through.
As for bullets, it's two fold.
You are right, when up against a slug thrower, the saber will melt the bullet. However in canon, a slug thrower that fires at the speed of an uzi/assault rifle would kill a Jedi.
The Jedi cannot block all the bullets, and a normal robed Jedi would be shredded. However, even basic Star Wars armor from the old republic were capable of stopping slugs/rapid slugs without issue so they fell out of fashion and are incredibly rare compared to any form of blaster.
(Meaning an armored Jedi would have no issue)
As for Hunting Jedi, I am referring to the Mandolorian war, where the Mandos almost wiped out the Jedi and took over the Republic if it weren't for a few turning to the Dark Side, and the teachings of the Sith.
@@marbles8641 Yeah, but it has to be continuous momentum. The blade of a lightsaber does have a physical presence, otherwise they would interact with other lightsabers or vibroblades etc. either. So it actually would block the momentum of objects flying at the jedi like a physical sword would.
As for bullets being unbeatable for a non-armored jedi, that's not really true. A jedi blocks by moving a sword to a place where a shot is going to hit, as well as boosting reflexes. A jedi is also extremely fast, fast enough to block a bullet (Revenge of the sith novelizations have Obi-Wan block 18 strikes a second) even if they didn't, although that often doesn't translate to the movies.
Given all that, a jedi can easily block even an assault rifle's bullet stream by just moving the sword exactly where their opponent is aiming.
Then the jedi could also just stop the bullets in mid-air with telekinesis, with a telekinetic shield around them.
Even with slug throwers, jedi will win. They are extremely hard to kill.
In the Mandalorian wars, I don't really get why you're saying they hunted the jedi to extinction. They attacked the Republic, but as soon as Revan turned up with the jedi, the Mandalorians were beaten back. The turn to the dark side happened after that as well. The civil war between jedi turned sith and the ones still loyal to the order, that is what drove the jedi to extinction.
The Mandalorians did have teams hunting jedi, but more often than not, those teams failed and were completely wiped out. They certainly didn't do enough damage to stop the jedi from turning the tide in the war.
@Arphemius The only physical presence the blade has is energy. It has no solid presence beyond that.
The reason vibroswords and stun batons can block the sword is due to matching the frequency the saber puts out, allowing them to connect.
Even personal force fields can block a saber, but it uses up the battery quickly.
(This was explained in KOTOR)
I do remember a cheap trick from the old novels/expanded universe where a Jedi or Sith would change their Bladed frequency to get an advantage in a fight... making their saber initially unblockable, but that was a double-edged sword, leaving them just as vulnerable.
The speed of a Jedi isn't in question, and yes, any bullet that hits the blade would be vaporized. A rapid slung slinger was supposedly faster than MOST Jedi reflexes could handle if they tried to block it.
Good point about the blocking with a force push/grip, though. I was so focused on the saber usage that I honestly forgot that tactic. Quesion is, can they hold a bunch of bullets like in the Matrix.
I will also fully admit all this is from lore I personally read over the years. When at home, I reference Wookiepedis to double check, but I can't tell you what's canon v. legends anymore. I still hold most canon prior to Disney as canon, though my brain may be mixing in both the table top and video games.
The people IN this show are defending the premise that your view of good & evil is just matter of perspective, while at the SAME TIME calling critics of the show as wrong & evil. The moral lesson we are apparently supposed to get out of this show is only one of "perspective," why am I not allowed to have the perspective that the show is sh!t? Wtf is Disney doing?
At this point I feel like Disney are so maliciously incompetent. I don't even find it worth my limited time on this planet to listen to, or care about what any of them say. The only reason I even remotely know anything that they say is because EFAP covers it.
Giving post-modernists moral relativism will result in this exact scenario, especially when those post-modernists have never given a single thought about their own positions and contradict themselves like this.
Imagine if they started changing the lore behind starving Africans
Well, West Africa did tell the French to bugger off recently with a few military coups.
I like RLM but they're so out of touch when it comes to Star Wars. I never understood the argument often used by Rich Evans, when he claimed that you can't do much more with Star Wars. It wasn't until recently when they watched Andor that Mike and Rich finally understood the concept of the Expanded Universe. Star Wars has so much potential, but Disney simply refuses to take advantage of it and do anything cool with the IP.
Oh trust me, he has had some bad takes even during the Pre Rec livestreams. I’ve agreed with him on many things, but I’ve had my disagreements with his stance on the N64, Venom & Carnage, Star Wars, Doom 64, and so on. He even notoriously hates JRPG’s. In the Rich Evans family stream he was forced to play FFVII and was miserable.
@@EpicJasonX9000so7nds liked based takes to me. Especially on jrpgs.
They did Andor.
@@PatrickOMulliganshit take
He has a weird chip on his shoulder over Christianity and he hates the Jedi because he sees them as an allegory to Christianity, he has said as much on his prerecorded livestreams and is not just your typical fedora tipping redditor take on the religion it goes much further than that to the point that calling him hateful against it is putting it mildly.
2:36:47 Great point by Mauler. You can just throw the "starving African defense" back at the person. If you're saying that my online criticisms are petty (there are starving people in Africa for heaven sakes!) then your criticisms of my criticisms are even more petty.
Red Letter Media is too smart to be this dumb about their Star Wars Acolyte defenses. They should know how hypocritical and cringe worthy they appear with the starving children in Aftrica schtick. This leads me to beleive that they are being intentionally provocative for the purpose of engagement farming. I'd like to think they are being genuine but wanting to make money off of triggering us Star Wars nerds with their bad takes makes more sense to me.
These guys have been on the internet for a long time now. Go ahead and just watch the earlier videos and look at the complexion in their eyes compared to now. The dudes have aged, and they seem to consider themselves separate, so I can only imagine how much of the conversation they delude with Centrist condescension.
They are slowly becoming the nerd crew. Give it a year
A lot of times your ego will make you see the world in really weird ways to avoid confronting certain things about yourself.
With RLM, I seriously get the impression that they're total nerds about media, but they don't want to be see as nerds, especially as middle-aged men, so they go too far with the "We're not nerds, in fact, we actively mock nerds all the time," schtick with stuff like The Nerd Crew. Every couple minutes in their Star Wars and Star Trek reviews you'll hear a variation of "We're not nerds. Nerds are stupid and lame. We're definitely not manbabies."
So, of course when all the nerds and manbabies are complaining about The Acolyte being bad, they'll say "Well, we're not nerds or manbabies, and we think The Acolyte is alright."
It's kinda sad how obvious it is to everyone else except them.
I heard that they were somewhat better at one franchise then the other. I think it was Star Trek they were better at then Star Wars.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx The thing is that their audience tends to not watch Star Trek, or only watched The Next Generation.
You can see it with Lower Decks. They made a number of direct references to RLM in the show, but fans almost never bring it up because RLM fans don't tend to watch Lower Decks.
So, RLM can just say anything about modern Star Trek and their fans will believe them.
Like, RLM famously liked the Abrams reboot, that's why they said he should direct Star Wars. They also didn't think Wrath Of Khan fit in with the Star Trek universe and caused serious damage to the franchise which is probably more true than people want to admit. Wrath Of Khan really is a movie for people who don't like Star Trek, which is why people say it's the best of the movies.
Remember, Mike thought Yoda danced around in a bikini when seeing one of the Sequel movies.
I love Redlettermedia but their acolyte video was a mega stinker. How do you make a nearly hour and a half long video where you complain about how the politics surrounding the show have overshadowed most discussion about the quality/content of the acolyte, and then proceed to make a bunch of centrist takes about the political backlash and barely talk about the quality/content of the show :/
Philibustering was the point
The real irony is that 90% of the show's (using the term as loosely as possible) dialog is one character telling another character things they already know. Poor Lezzye... so dishonest, so untalented, and so, so gay. 😂
They did a whole Plinket Review for The Last Jedi discussing a bunch of other stuff rather than the movie.
@@archstanton9073 The TFA review is even worse than that.
Kept leaving and coming back, and every time I tuned in, they were showing Elden ring footage while Theo talked about how super crazy-amazing he is at the game, lol... Happened several times.
Woo! You guys are getting me through the "hurry up and wait" process the military always makes people go through. It's been a real pain having my life be put on hold by these people.
What's the waiting for?
After a year and a half, I have caught up from starting EFAP.
I think Theo legitimately is delusional when it comes to the souls series. "I've done things none of you would ever believe in this game". Most experienced soulsborne players do SL1 runs, the DLC is very doable at SL1.
You are describing a tiny minority of the overall playerbase, I assure you
I hate how many people like him have this "appeal to authority" mindset that just because they were good at some of the other games then they're clearly experts on others. Elden Ring is a game he's played once with a chip on his shoulder and a stubborn attitude. He doesn't know nearly as much about the game as he thinks he does. Especially compared to people who have been playing it consistently over the past 2 years
@@uhrwerk5505 I agree. When I say "experienced players" I mean the ones who have played thousands of hours of souls games like myself. His statement "I've done things none of you would believe" is the one I'm appealing to.
@@Terrbearr428 That is fair. When there are youtubers going around beating the game with only Law of Undead Smiting or whatever which takes 5 years to cast and does 2 damage, I‘m not sure what Theo could be referring to that he did that‘s unbelievable
Theo definitely does come off like he’s just whining, and this is coming from someone who struggles with the same boss tactics he’s complaining about.
Honestly, what's so ridiculous about people acting like the Acolyte is criticizing the Jedi is the fact that there are extremely easy ways to do that without making them evil. Make an entire show about how padawans suffer from the lack of proper parental figures during developmental years. Emotional stunting, abandonment issues, etc.
It's not difficult, just don't give these projects to nepo-babies who don't understand basic logic, and give it to people who view the source material as an aid, not an obstacle.
But the padawans don't suffer from that. Obi-Wan was Anakin's parental figure.
There is "Quickstep" and especially "Bloodhound's Step" in Elden Ring if you need something longer or little different than just dodge-roll.
You can also use a shield.
Harris isn't around to hurt you, so it's ok to use a shield.
Roughly 2 hour mark: You know this might be controversial, but I quite liked what Disney was doing with The Muppets about 10 years ago. I liked the 2 movies, I liked the sitcom, but despite my positivity, Disney still put the Muppets on ice. I miss the Muppets, but I don't trust current Disney with them. Maybe if I loudly hated The Muppets back then, they would still be around.
That's intriguing.
Funny thing about Rag's Dragon Age comments, is that the later games show that despite the Chantry's & Templar's inconsistent & occasionally cruel treatment of mages, they ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT & JUSTIFIED IN THEIR ACTIONS!
Mages don't just 'have magic' but using it puts them in direct connection with spirits & demons(which, are actually the same thing) and thus the constant threat of possession if not cautious & properly trained.
And a possessed mage is essentially a reality warping walking nuke. In the first game alone, a child with magic that was not properly trained got possessed and massacred a town.
Also a mages tower get practically destroyed for similar reasons with massive loss of life.
There are repeated examples of why this system arose, why it's so strictly enforced, & why mages are so feared, well before the rebellion & mage civil war that erupts in Inquisition, which is nigh apocalyptic on its own before the big bad(also a mage,that tried to invade heaven) kicks off an actual apocalypse in the chaos.
The other societies in the settings have their own controls( elves banish children with magic if they already have too many mages, the Imperium had the exact same system as the Chantry more or less, but the mages took over and run it now, the Qunari do like everything else and strictly control and brainwash their mages).
This might be a weird comparison, but these people who think you are supposed to like everything no matter what, remind me of the people in the fat acceptance community. The way both groups attack a person who disagrees with them, comes across as both extremely insecure and immature. It's like both groups think the criticism of the product/ideology reflects badly upon themselves. It does and it's freaking hilarious but also incredibly pathetic.
The first guy you showed heavily moderates his chat, he doesn't allow for any debate or alternative views in the comments. It's so jarring if you're used to normal people who can just disagree.
That's disappointing.
@@MegaSpideyman it was quite a culture shock. I don't tend to go into militantly progressive spaces. But they're all jannies and so they won't debate you, they just ban you instead. Imagine having nothing better to do with your life than moderate UA-cam comments.
" It's not good and evil is about power and who is allowed to use it " This phrase means nothing because if we start discussing the question of who should have the power it ultimately boils down to : we want good people to have power because bad people will use power to fuck everything up.
3:30:00 man if Smylo's helmet had "Taxation is Theft" on it instead of stupid smiley teeth, he'd immediately become my favorite Star Wars character
I’m actually disappointed with the RLM Crew on this one wtf man
They've always been complete and utter trash that don't understand Star Wars one little bit.
you're a bit late to the party Weekend man, but a based take indeed.
Same thing happened to me with their The Force Awakens review. Then again, they did jump to the studio to film the video straight from the theater, so they had no time to marinate that movie at all. Once they put the video out, it's really hard to backtrack afterwards.
I completely agree with Mike on his take on, if I don't *enjoy* something, I'll stop watching. I don't understand why the panel seemed so offended by that, since they apparently get some enjoyment out of watching and discussing these presumably garbage shows. So, obviously Mike wasn't talking about them, just the general audience, since it doesn't make much of a dent on the streaming service's database, if some UA-camrs stop watching a show. I guess it reminded them too much of the _"And if you don't like my politics, don't buy my book."_ activist.
As a long time Star Wars fan anyone who doesn't agree that the jedi are the good guys was never really a fan because they don't understand the most basic thing about the force.
Yeah there seems to be a strand of 'enlightened centrism' when it comes to the force, some people who believe that the Light and the Dark Side should both be used.
To say the least, things are not so simple
@luisgustavo6117 Honestly I think alot people don't understand morality nowadays. As a kid Star Wars was great because it was a manifestation of what good vs evil meant to me. Nowadays apparently the jedi are scheming weirdos and the sith are misunderstood. What's next? Nazis are misunderstood too?
Understand that RLM's apathy for star wars set in YEARS before you guys. They were checked out in the early 2000s
Watch them make smilo Ren into a young Palpatine when he is still a sith apprentice
How fuckin old is Palpatine?
@mrdropkicker1 I mean they already changed the age of mundi along with his entire species lifespan so I don't put anything past Disney at this point
"Being good isn't so good" is he assuming that every good action must be rewarded? Why would anyone think that? That is not how reality works.
One look at the first subject of this video confirms that whenever a light saber is activated, he has to change his pants because of all the soy that just exploded into them. 🤮
Lol at Theo raging out about elden ring and other people’s opinions on it, then saying later that people who can’t respect other peoples opinions are insane and are incorrectly using the internet.
Because Theo is “well akshually” personified.
Tbf Chat did it first.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qxhe started it by telling the chat that he's better than them. Not with that gameplay he showed he ain't.
@@mrkennady That's Metals gameplay. And so what we all brag about being better than others at games. Plus he was pissed off with the "git gud" and "skill issue" comments which, in all honesty, are pretty retarded. It reminds me of the lackluster attempts by shills to get rid of criticism for shit media like Star Wars or Star Trek or whatever.
Theo works overtime to prove what people say about anime PFPs.
3:19:30 - The Chantry exists for a good reason, since any unsanctioned mage is literally a free doorway for Daemons as entry into the world... much like psykers in Warhammer 40K. And of course, the later games completely forget this, even DAII portrays them a cliche religious overzealous villains.
That's why the circles exist, not the chantry. The chantry is the entire religion, the Catholic church, of the world.
What did Christians do to Rags, to earn such snide remarks?
They don't approve of his lifestyle.
Gee, what would Christians have done to a gay dog to make him not really like them very much?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
People that look at Christianity and pretend they don't cause enormous problems because of their fucking magic man are so annoying.
@@archstanton9073 Unlike palestine on the other hand, which is 'definitely' 100% pro "human rights" - and 'especially' that specific group.
Christianity is the most intolerant religion in the world and anything bad that has ever happened is their fault.
hes a stereotypical gay atheist who went to catholic school. it comes with the territory I guess lol
@@archstanton9073 Those unbelievable bastards don't condone degeneracy, smh. That's literally the worst thing you could do to a person.
Alot of Star Wars Lightsaber fights, most in fact rely on the setting. Like Duel of the Fates, Mail is kicking Obiwan around the platform trying to get Quigon one on one, or the laser doors seperate them and he gets his chance. Count Dooku vs Yoda, he collapses a Pillar to distract Yoda so he can run. Anakin vs Obiwan. Lava is everywhere, the characters ohysical location is dangerous where they are having to stop fighting at points to stay alive. ESB, Vader throws chunks of Metal and piping at Luke before trapping him on this catwalk over a pit. And in the acolyte, the same fight could have been in the desert, or on an ice planet or lava world and jt wouldnt make one difference
I was kinda on board with Theo until he said that Skyrim and Elden Ring offer similar experiences and that's such an absurdly reductive thing to say that I can't help but assume he's off base as a result. I'll wait to see his video and to be honest I'm not that invested in elden ring but that is an insane statement to make.
Can you explain why it's so insane? I don't play soulslikes, but I watched Mauler's ER streams and honestly I got the same impression as Theo just from that. Just a whole lot of meaningless exploration to give you more loot and levels punctuated with high octane but very narratively weak main story quests that rely on the game's gimmick to dish out an adrenaline rush into more exploration for the player to chill out with.
@mrmcawesome9746 its overly reductive. Skyrim is an rpg whose main focus is the story and character progression with a fairly minimal melee combat system. Elden rings main focus is the combat. In terms of style, objective, aesthetic, gameplay, and narrative, the two games are not even in the same genre let alone subgenre. Like even in your statement here, if I am that reductive when talking about games almost all games are going to sound identical. That description could as easily apply to breath of the wild and runescape as it does skyrim and elden ring.
@@IvanVanncheskov Firstly, almost all _open world pseudo-RPG's_ are going to sound identical, you mean. Because they _are_ almost identical in their core gameplay loop, which has been a massive point of criticism for the industry for years now. BotW does it a whole lot better by making exploration a more integral part of the experience instead of just an endless downtime activity, but it shares almost all of its flaws with games like Skyrim, yes. I've never touched Runescape, but I didn't know it had high octane story moments? Last I checked it was an MMO too.
Secondly, let's actually go into detail here on what you said.
Style, yeah, they're different, but they're still in the "realistic-looking western medieval fantasy" genre, it's not like we're talking about Ori and the Blind Forest here. Not like it matters to the main point either though.
I would ask you to define objective before I grant your point, because I think it depends. Both games share the meta objective of keeping the player engaged for as long as possible on their core exploration->main gimmick(boss for ER, big questline for Skyrim)->exploration loop, but you could argue there's a difference in design objective in that Skyrim wants to be more of a power fantasy while FromSoft's whole shtick is the difficulty. Again, they're not the same, but not completely different either. They're closer to each other than either would be to a mobile game that follows the same endless open world grind formula for example, I think that's pretty acceptable to say.
Aesthetic... we're even further away from the point than with style, hot damn. Yes, they're different, but again, just for arguments' sake considering it doesn't even matter to the main point, they _are_ of the same genre. Compare them both to say, a japanese visual novel for example, and you can see they're clearly closer to one another than that.
Gameplay, again, they are in very similar ballparks, Elder Ring just narrows down the player's options and increases the difficulty and breadth of the enemies while Skyrim does the opposite, dumbing down combat but giving the player lots of spells and shouts and whatnot. At the end of the day they both follow the same pattern of mashing your build's relevant attack and healing mid-fight until the enemy health bar goes down, again way more similar to one another than either would be to Breath of the Wild for example (complete with finding companions/summons during your exploration like they're pokemon? didn't even think about this before). And way, _way_ more than either would be to a more combat-oriented game like Sifu, Monster Hunter or Hades.
The point is that if you hate Skyrim for the endless meaningless dungeons and overworld quests meant to keep the player busy instead of providing any substantive content, or for the simplistic manipulation of its bombastic story moments meant to distract the player from the repetitiveness of the experience, you ought to at least recognise that Elden Ring uses the exact same formula, it just looks better and is a Soulslike. Not to say that the formula is inherently horrible, just that a lot of people don't really care about what they profess to hate about Skyrim as long as its presentation is cool enough.
Like looking at it in depth like this I'm even more convinced that Theo had a point than I was when I first heard it, so I'd love to hear if I've just completely missed something or what?
Did RLM actually get to a review in thier review? I stopped watching 45min in bc all they did was tell us how far up thier asses the fence is
@@pbradics3670You had us in the first half, ngl.
lol
In defense of RLM:
They truly do not give a shit about star wars. They want it to die so when they say "who cares" it's because they can't fathom anyone giving a shit about the ip anymore. Because they are treckies. XD
Then they should shut the fuck up or get an actual Star Wars person on their show. I'm so sick of these hacks talking about shit they either don't know and won't learn the stuff or hate it and try to drum up discourse and attack people with legit criticism instead of engaging it in civil talk.
They sure cared a lot when they made all those Plinkett reviews
@@Gojeto346Yeah, and by now they stopped caring.
Your point being?
@@LobsterwithinternetThen why do they care so much about Star Wars fans not liking modern Star Wars content and making such imbecilic arguments in the first place? Heck, why even bother covering Star Wars related stuff if they're Star Trek fans?
@@pablocardoso7830 Maybe because they have hundreds of thousands of people asking them to?
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FS is not manipulating you into rolling at a bad time. Those attacks are delayed so you have time to recover stamina/get into position for a charged heavy-attack.
I held this same sentiment on my first playthrough. Then, on my second run, I tried playing around with those delayed attacks and discovered they were very easy to deal with. You can easily block, roll, parry, or jump over those delayed attacks as soon as the attack comes out; they are 100% reactable.
I had a ton of problems with Elden Ring on my first playthrough, but then I stopped treating it like a sequel to Dark Souls. It’s much like Sekiro in that regard.
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Christ, this is a gross oversimplification of ‘Souls combat’…and this isn’t a ‘Souls’ game. This whole rant sounds like me bitching about Maliketh during my first playthrough.
The combat is clearly more complicated than you understand because R1 attacks in ER are almost useless against bosses unless you’re simply trying to get in a quick hit. The real damage in ER comes from breaking an enemy’s posture, which is done with jumping heavies and charged R2s. You can hit a boss with R1 attacks all day and never break their posture.
As for dodging, it’s okay...but in many cases, jumping over an attack is better in every way, especially when it’s a sweeping attack or a ground AOE. Jump a Crucible Knights tail-sweep->confirm into jumping R2->watch him crumple.
Thank you lol. Its like complaining you cant block in bloodborne. The bosses may slightly look like DS bosses, but they arent. Elden ring leans into high fantasy and the wild stuff bosses can pull off represent that. Its like the complaint about "anime moves", they're meant to be dangerous attacks that, if properly handled, can be used to deal a ton of damage to the boss
@@Schlumbuo Sure do love waiting a minute or two for them combos ti expire. That’s super fun, or how the camera is the worst it’s ever been. Super engaging stuff right there
@@bender5271you're not waiting that long for combos and if you are that means you didn't learn the fight very well. Most boss combos have openings in the middle of the combo or can be spaced around to attack them when they wiff
@@bender5271how do you listen to a five hour stream if you can't deal with a couple minutes of observation?
and that's a horrible way to do it. Absolutely terrible. I don't believe anyone would ever do it.
How you add a break into attacks: Enemies jumping back, crouching down, jumping into the air or pausing in a passive stance.
How FS baits dodges: Enemy winds up an attack and holds their sword in the air and walks towards you... and keeps walking into you, pushing you with their stomach, before finally striking down.
The difference is obvious. Do better.
Theo's philosophy on what constitutes good enemy design is... interesting. It sounds like he's saying that, because he's good at the game, anything that he can't beat the first time he sees it is poorly designed.
This comes across as very arrogant. As a musician, I don't blame the composer if I can't sight read a difficult piece. I just accept that I need to practice the piece, and when I eventually pull it off, it can be very satisfying.
It's fine if Theo doesn't enjoy this kind of challenge, but he also acts like everyone should agree that it's objectively bad, which just comes across as obnoxious.
It's insane how it's his biggest complaint (or at least the one he screams about the most) and it's a complaint that's fixed once you learn it. Most of his issues are just from a first playthrough experience with a chip on his shoulder and a stubborn attitude.
Once you've actually played the game a few times and really explore the insane amount of options the game is just a fun sandbox. Sure it's not as refined as a game like Sekiro or some action games like DMC but to sit here and say it was the worst gaming experience of his life says more about him than Elden Ring
It really sounds like, just like his original er complaints, he is completely unable to get any enjoyment out of the exploration of the game, which means that for the dlc he’s making both the exploration and bosses way worse for himself
Yeah it crazy to me how he can’t wrap his head around the Scadutree fragments. They are there to make sure there is still a form a progression because From wanted people to feel like they could get better still. For some reason it’s really hard for people to comprehend
In his view, which I think is good, is that telegraphs should convey the information necessary to dodge an attack on your first attempt. Having to just experiment with rolls and positioning because you can’t tell what’s going on (Radahn phase 2 in a nutshell) isn’t fun for him. It can feel like you are wasting time because the game isn’t even trying to be fair with the telegraph.
It’s not wrong to like it this way, but I feel the same way as Theo. To players like us, this DLC is hot fucking garbage.
@@pphaver871I would agree if it was literally impossible to dodge one too many attacks due to jank and bad telegraphing but that's objectively not true. The fact that mods specifically exist to turn even Malenia's attacks into what you describe is bad design makes the argument null and void simply because it is possible and can be done in other ways. I mean, people have literally come close to first trying many bosses based off of in the moment trial and error from telegraphed attacks and proper responses to them for both the base game and the dlc.
Looking at the camera example Metal gave, FromSoft cameras have always been pretty trash but I don't understand why the example video given didn't just have the player disengage the lock on. The camera screws up often when against a wall but you don't have to obey the lock on. There is an auto lock feature but you can turn it off in the settings so you can't blame the game for bad camera all the time.
FromSoft games have always been about preparation and adaptation and even the massive enemies in ER all have blind spots in their hit boxes. Many people also instinctively roll to avoid damage when back steps and jumping exist and yes, they have proper I-frames to be more than viable in practically all fights. It's understandable if you just hate memorizing patterns and specific hitboxes but FromSoft games have always pushed this method of learning in literally everything they make even if its frustrating. Even the games people think are the best have heavy memorization built into their fights, some in different ways like Sekiro which requires a variety of counters rather than dodging.
I can agree to some extent about general jank and alternating attack patterns but it's hyperbolic to an unreasonable degree to say that this is all new and horrendous design when every game before ER has the same sort of formula, altered to varying degrees that yes, some people hate and despise because they believe the game is out to get them. The only game I could ever agree consistently screws the player over because of bad hitboxes is DS2. That's it. Everything else really does just boils down to tolerance and even "git gud"
Seems like Theo has never heard of shields. There are wind ups that hold before attacking but the shields in the game are so op that you can easily learn the timing for any attacks at very little cost, i dont know what build hes using but even as a pure sorcerer you can wield a shield with 95% damage reduction with some combination of talisman and flask. If you are purposefully challenging yourself by not using shields or summoning a mimic or npc to split agro to learn timings and ignoring other opportunities to lower damage taken through golden vow, damage reduction flask and boiled crab dont be surprised when a endgame level boss is able to kill you before you learn his moves
Also from the noticeable delayed attacks I've dealt with so far there has been an audio cue for exactly when you need to roll, eg. Messmir's fire slam at the beginning, he flashes and makes a sound right when you need to dodge, same with the furnaces stomps so that you can jump them with or without torrent with your eyes closed
For the bad camera complaint I'll admit it's not as bad for me because I've bound the roll button to the rear paddle of my dualsense edge so that I can keep my thumb on the camera stick, but if it's an issue for you try rebinding roll to L1 if you don't use shields often
I've only beaten 4 rememberence bosses so far ( putrecent knight, rellana, dancing lion, midra) and a few of the npc ones so maybe my opinion will change but I've beaten all of them without using the skibidi blessing, (except midra who I summoned some jolly co-operation for) I've gotten to the point on messmir where I'm considering applying the blessing for some extra defense but I've gotten him to 20% a few times with just the npc and mimic tear
"I've done things in dark souls you couldn't even imagine"
People will say things like this and wonder why fromsoft keeps making boss movesets harder and harder to predict.
He didn't wonder, he especifically said this was one of the reasons.
So he dislikes big anime moves but then says Monster Hunter is one of the best action games like WTF
It's almost as if these are two entirely different games, and these big over the top anime moves work much better in monster hunter than in Elden ring due to the superior combat. What a shit take, you seriously think his argument is "Big anime moves are always bad"? Fucking hell.
He does not like their use in a more grounded setting such as Dark Souls.
They’re okay in MH due to the setting.
@@tomjames9681 There's that as well, outside of the gameplay method of dodging these, of which monster hunter has many more options to do so. And outside of rise, which is specifically made to be more "Anime" than the others, these big nuke-type attacks are much rarer than these idiots, most of which probably haven't touched a single game, like to believe.
Good one, focusing just on the superficial.
@@tomjames9681 "Dark Souls" "Grounded" Lmao.
Kinda rubs me the wrong way theo says rolling is all you can do and how you cant change it much when theirs 3 different rolling weights and ashes of war that are specifically designed to be a better roll
Not to mention jumping is an extremely powerful option that avoids many attacks, is a gap closer, and jumping R2s do mega posture damage.
It's also ignoring how powerful guarding and shields are in Elden Ring compared to every other souls game
@@kalecraft8906very true
Rolling, jumping (which includes some ashes of war that put you in the air), spells, shields... literally side stepping attacks too, i think people who think rolling is the only way to deal with attacks would be surprised at how many attacks you can avoid just by good distancing achieved with simple walking or a little sprint.
Rellana is the perfect example of this, you can back off a little and she will just be punching air for a while. If you know what you're doing a simple shield can easily dominate her in the entire fight too, so many of her attacks are parryable including the one that she does a 180° and to get behind you (and it's kinda badass to parry 2 of those in a row lol). If you are not good parry even just blocking her attacks and doing guard counters can net you a good amount of stance breaks.
@@joppa4836 depends on the build tbh.
@@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish depending on the build what? You can use Ashes of war or change your roll weight on any build in the game unless you use very spefic weapons where you can't change it and that doesn't matter beacuse ANY build can off hand a dagger with the bloodhound or Quickstep what's your point?
The 2 guys across a table are from Blind Wave, they baffle me. They like everything mainstream, which isn't really a shocker, which lead me to think they just like everything. Then I watched them watch the TV show Chuck and the movie Surf Ninja and both of them had them laughing the whole time. I expected them to be like "those were really fun", but they were super critical after they finished.
Regarding the comment that Elden Ring's combat is simplistic because you just hit dodge until you have time to attack, I can't help but feel like it stems from gaslighting by the Souls community in general. People have denegrated any technique that makes a fight easier to the point where the only "accepted" way to fight is to dodge/counter, and it better not be with bleed weapons.
The first Mauler video(s) I ever saw was his rebuttal series to H Bomber Guy's take on DS2. In that, he took particular issue to HBG claiming that Bloodborne showed people the correct way to play Souls games, which was without a shield. Mauler remarked about how great it was that Dark Souls allowed for such incredible build variety, and I'm surprised it wasn't brought up here. You do not have to just dodge/counter. You can fight at range, you can block, you can rely on items, and yes, even spirit ashes. It's okay. Don't let the snobby parts of the community gaslight you into thinking it's not allowed or improper. Base Game fights were often quite trivialized by summons, yes, but have you ever consider that FromSoft tried to design the dlc in a way that better accounted for them?
I can understand the feeling that the dlc punishes dodge/counter builds, but to call Souls combat simplistic because you act as though that's the only way to play is just plain dishonest. You can't say a game lacks complexity when you're not even engaging with half of the available systems.
The DLC didn't account for summons. Having more than 1 player still breaks the AI and is easy to abuse. The bosses being harder compensates for it, but doesn't actually solve anything.
Super basic early 2000s multi-target AI:
WoW NPCs will have attacks that drop the threat of their main target, usually by putting them to sleep or an equivalent, and cause them to switch focus irrelevant of player actions.
They also have abilities that counter spellcasting. When their cooldown is up, they will look for any eligible target (irrelevant of aggro table) that's currently in the middle of a cast and use their skill on that target.
ER has none of that. Hell, it's actually worse than DS2, because DS2 had boss encounters with multiple mobs where the mobs could splti up and attack different targets. In ER the boss will blindly pursue whoever last attacked them.
@@Wyzai I've seen the AI switch targets mid-combo and been caught by it plenty of times, not to mention the constant barrage of AOE attacks. Given the difficulty that people are having in general, the DLC fights seem to be handling groups well enough.
Really gotta step back and ask yourself if it's a game problem or if you're a glutton for punishment. As you get more accustomed to a series, it's pretty easy to forget what it was like 1000 hours ago.
@@Wyzai Many of the DLC bosses will get far more aggressive in response to summons, and will often ignore the summons anyway.
But I agree with the overall point, while I also think it's a bit of a mistake to constantly crank up the difficulty, but then also crank up the cheese. Like, alot of people want to overcome the challenge without a totally mindless strategy, but without also being miserable. There's less of a middle ground here.
1:15:53 mix Cortosis and Phrok while listening to Jizz and the universe collapses
It seems like now more than ever, people just refuse to engage in certain fictions. I feel like I used to see this issue mostly in horror, but it was manifest entirely different. I knew quite a few people who couldn't get into horror at all on any level because "it isn't real, and it can't happen" like yeah no shit, or they'd actively go into the movie/game with the mindset of "this will not scare me, I will not allow it." This is a complete refusal to engage with the fiction, usually for the express purpose of not enjoying it. This shit with Star Wars and the like is a near total inversion of that issue. When people like these projects, they feel that they have to rationalize it as being really well written, and thus, it is good because they personally would never enjoy something poorly written, so it has to be well written, and if it isn't, it actually is because "it's not real." So, let's get this straight, it's good because it's well written, it's well written in spite of the bad writing, and the bad parts because it's fiction and it doesn't matter or affect the quality of the writing because it's all fake anyway. Ok, alright, this essentially just boils down to, "writing doesn't matter, good because fiction." This is a refusal to engage for the purpose of enjoying it. This, to me, sounds an awful lot like an admission that it is bad, but they can't say that because they only like "good" things, which I find a little bit narcissistic.
"You train with the jedi, then they abandon you!"... when?!
Right so jedi bad. I get it now.
And she said "I left".
I have suspended my belief. Let's go!
I have an idea, maybe Smilo Ren killed the Witches and made it look like the Jedi did it. Maybe he was a teenager hidden in the Witches coven somewhere underground but his evil mind was able to influence certain people such as Mae. Probably a better story than what we will get, just throwing that idea out there.
As for if the villain is a true Sith or not, stuff like this was also touched upon in the Original Cel Animated Clone Wars.
Count Dooku/Darth Tyrannus : You are more powerful than I have sensed.
Asajj Ventress : The Dark Side is strong in me, for I am Sith.
Count Dooku/Darth Tyrannus : Ha, ha, ha! A bold claim. But you are not Sith.
[Dooku floats down using the force and stands before Ventress]
Count Dooku/Darth Tyrannus : You wear the trappings of the Sith, you fight like the Sith. But this can be imitated, however. You lack a vital quality found in all Sith. Sith have no fear. And I sense much fear in you.
Asajj Ventress : You are a foolish old man who knows nothing of the Dark side!
[ignites her lightsabers]
Count Dooku/Darth Tyrannus : [chuckling] Indeed?
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To a degree, i get the idea of wanting to really defend a favourite show/series but even then, i struggle to see how the counters of "it's a dumb kids show", "space wizards" or "Starving kids exist" would help, if anything, it would probably do more damage than any criticism. I guess the main issue for me is that given it's my favourite show/series, I'd be almost unfairly critical of later additions because i want to hold it up to what exists... but to be fair, i'm no movie show reviewer essayist intellectual person.
The funny thing is, the timing really works since in my case, my favourite series *is* finally getting a new movie soon. I WANT to look forward to it and be excited for it but a part of me is really worried it won't hold up. Hell, there was a spin-off that i've held in an unfair light. There was several forms of it (game, book, show) but i haven't really given the show itself a chance.
I guess my point doesn't even apply in the case of RLM... I honestly don't know what to make of their take, they don't care but care that others care?
2:38:55 It's odd using starving people as an excuse to win an argument. If anything, it's straight up disrespectful towards them and their plight. People aren't rioting over Star wars. They aren't making mountains out of mole hills that would justify using "there are bigger fish to fry" as an argument.
Glad you guys decided to talk about RLM on this one, that was probably the only video of theirs I didn't finish in the 10+ years I've been watching them
RLM got what they wanted for Star Wars. So I don't really take their opinions on most anything serious at all. They're effectively part of the Hollywood problem.
In that they're too forgiving, or apathetic?
@@MegaSpideyman In that Hollywood actually listened to them. No space politics, retconning the Prequels to effective non-existence for OT nostalgia, emphasizing practical effects, selecting JJ Abrams to direct, all that was done in TFA. The Plinkett reviews are how they got their fame in Hollywood and that's why they hang out with Patton Oswald and Macaulay Culkin.
I love the idea that Smilo is the witches' first attempt. The cult wanted to fight off extinction, succeeded in creating a male to help repopulate, and said, "...Nah, that can't be it. Let's keep trying." 😂
Sounds like the alternative plot to Steven Universe.