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Add a Thermaltake Contac Silent 12 to the group. It's even lower priced at $25-$30 depending on the winds. It's older, but still constantly in stock any time I've looked for another. Oh! And it will fit inside a 4u rack case. Barely. So it's actually still relevant for all the people who are recycling computers into HomeLab servers. That probably also means it will fit into a mid-tower? I'd like to see how these compare to the current $35-$50 offerings, even if none of those are ever going to fit into the kind of machines I'm going to build. It's always interesting to me to see just HOW low you can go until the performance/price curve starts getting unacceptable. For me it was really just about finding the best "reasonably priced" cooler that would actually fit and also not be loud. At the time there really wasn't much else other than $65-$80 Noctua offerings, or 2u stock screamers (which were also going for $65+ used on Ebay) I have 3 of these sitting in my rack next to my desk right now keeping some 120w TDP Xeons cool. Those machines have been at 96-99% usage for the last 2+ months and the hottest core is @ 63°C (25°C room). And that is with my lazy use of graphite thermal pads instead of thermal paste. This is quiet enough that I can JUST make out my 2070 Super fans when they ramp all the way up. That includes all the OTHER fans in the 4 machines too. (Gaming PC in same rack. 85% fan cap on GPU.) They have limitations though. They can't handle a 180w Naples Epyc under load. =( But then again, these are $25 coolers... I keep my Epyc server in another rack in the basement so I don't hear it. Also because the heat is becoming unmanageable in this room... ...But DAC cables are *expeeeeeeeeensive* and I'm being cheap. It would LITERALLY cost me like $300+ in cables just to move those machines straight down 1 floor. (Unless I can figure out how to disable the fan-failure protection on my 40G/56G switch so I can watercool it. That would save on the cables, but it is just too loud to use. Like...anywhere. I have literally had a neighbor come over to "see what that noise is". And it was in my basement at the time. I can hear it through my sound insulation AND wearing closed back headphones.)
@@KenS1267 Hyper 212 is far behind this one. I tested them by 12900K. @220W, delta T was 73°C for AK400 vs 83°C for Hyper212.@200W, delta T was 64.2°C for AK400 vs 74.5°C for Hyper212. so, hyper 211 is just good at its outlook.
Compliments to Mike and his hard work on cooler reviews lately. Certainly not implying the rest of the team isn't good at what you guys do, but there's been a noticeable enhancement in the quality and rigor on cooler analysis.
I think it may have something to do with that he is aware mass people are "getting ready" for the AM5 launch. And are buying what they can now in preparation for a new system build.
Was thinking this as well. My 212 has been going strong, but it seems to have disappeared from conversation as of late, so I'm curious how it holds up.
Unsurprisingly it would still be inbetween the other 30$ coolers. ...with the big exception that literally any other cooler will have better mounting hardware compared to that horrendous mechanism of the 212.
I'm running a Hyper 212 Evo with the stock fan on my i5 12600k and it's holding up just fine. Ambients are around 35º and I've never seen it get above 75º under a very heavy workload, this is with a modest overclock too. Might be worth noting that I'm running six case fans though.
Please do some id-cooling coolers! They seem to be really good for the price, especially in some countries where not every brand is available and smaller price gaps are more significant
@@Waldherz I wish they paid me lol, I just have bought some of their products (just for being cheap) and they turned out to be quite nice. In Argentina you can't get most brands at a reasonable price, but they seem to somehow avoid that problem
@@shibasss I haven't been in Argentina long, but the ID-Cooling seems to offer the best bang for the buck from what I've seen available. Still can't find an adapter that would allow use of a Thermalright (Peerless Assasin) on an Alder Lake build.
Steve, it's great to see you reviewing products like the AK400 -- it's always great to watch a review from you, and especially on the more 'midrange' variations, if I can say so, as not everyone would be looking to build the highest end systems, or the lower end on that matter. Looking forward for more similar content, not necessarily coolers, of course.
Every time I load up a new GN video, I first immediately lower my speakers & sub way down. That GN intro with the bass drop will literally blow my subwoofer up.
Good to see Deepcool on this channel. Love their latest products. I used to use the EK Waterblocks AIOs but Deepcool's Castle EXs were cheaper and look better imo. Didn't do any hardcore testing, but I'm happy with mine. The AS500 is really neat too, their flagship RGB air cooler currently.
I would be pretty interested in seeing how the ID-Cooling SE-214-XT holds up. For a $20 pricepoint, it seems to be in an interesting bracket for what it purports to offer. ID-Cooling has proven to be surprisingly competent with a lot of their other products, so it would be nice to see that continue.
@@nathanlarson6535 I have the and I think its a little better or par with the hyper 212, definitely better value since CM jacked up the prices of the 212.
I've got one in my current PC. It performs shockingly well for the price and I think it looks better than most any other single tower cooler on the market. It will never cease to amaze me how ID-Cooling is able to offer so much for only $20 especially in this day and age when everything seems to be steadily increasing in price. Eagerly awaiting the review on this one.
Deepcool is a really good and helpful company. I got their GAMMAXX L240 V2 AIO cooler a while ago for my Intel system. Worked like a charm. When I switched to an AMD AM4 system more recently I had lost the brackets to the cooler. I got in touch with them and they were fantastic. For a few dollars postage only from China they posted to me in the UK the brackets. Now that's service. Still very happy with the performance of their product.
Same thing happened to me with one of their coolers. They weren't selling the am4 brackets anymore when I switched over, but their customer service hooked me up. 10/10 would recommend again
Lian Li is peerless regarding customer service. I had a Galahad 360 AIO which started to run a bit too hot for my taste. Fearing something was wrong (pump malfunction, liquid drying up). I contacted their support and they basically said got it, we'll ship you a new unit without the fans, postage paid for. Granted it took a while to arrive since it was shipped from Taiwan but that's exactly what I got a brand new unit minus the fans
I bought that assassin King like a month ago for about 30 dollars! I'm not surprised they bumped the price through. It's been working GREAT. Dropped like 15 degrees off the cpu in comparison to the stock cooler with my i5 7600. It's way quieter too
Recently I started building custom computers and these reviews are so helpful in showing what kind of parts I have to look at for different builds and different prices. Thank you!
DeepCool has been a hidden gem for years. I bought a DeepCool Lucifer V2 cpu cooler back in 2014 and it's been cooling a 4690k@4.6GHz for 8 years. No issues. Fan still going strong. Cpu under heavy gaming load (3+ hours) never exceeds 61c. And it was only like $35-40 then?
Not even the big chongus Lucifer V2 was enough to cool my old FX-9590, lol Man I love that cooler, too bad I couldn't get an adapter for my new Ryzen, the Assassin III is my new favorite though
It China company, not from Taiwan. So you should know why it feel hidden somewhere around. They are very prominence in Asian market but out of sight in North America market.
@@n0rsca392 They were just ensuring that it also doubled as a foot warmer. They've perfected the ultimate combination of the Pentium 4 Prescott 3.8Ghz and the Athlon Thunderbird 1.4Ghz "Block Heater".
I'd like to suggest some coolers to be reviewed: ID-Cooling SE-224-XT, ID-Cooling SE-207-XT Advanced, Thermalright FS-140, Thermalright FC-140, and Thermalright PA-120.
A bunch of friends are hoping for me to build them a sub $500 1080P gaming rigs so this kind of budget oriented stuff is so incredibly appreciated! Thanks for the amazing content.
@@cl4ssic Consoles often end up costing more long run than a budget pc in my experience. Pc game stores often have better discounts and you save money not having to pay to use your own internet. This won't be true dor everyone though
I just put the AK400 on my 5800X3D and I like it so far. I removed the pre-applied thermal compound, and instead used Kryonaut Extreme. I also replaced the stock fan with a BeQuiet 120MM High Speed PWM Silent Wings 4 due to personal preference since I'm using BeQuiet fans in the rest of my setup. I have yet to hit any thermal issues in gaming, but I could still add a second fan if necessary. The BeQuiet fan does have a higher max speed at 2500rpm than the stock DeepCool fan, so that is likely helping things. No clearance issues using a Lian Li 205 mesh case, a ROG Strix B550-XE Gaming board with 4 sticks of G.Skill Trident Z Neo RGB RAM.
Be advised, Kryonaut Extreme is not meant for long term use. It’s for XOC users that are using LN2. The paste is pretty thin and will pump out quickly. Regular Kryonaut or even Hydronaut (I use this one) is a much better choice.
Would be cool to have the Snowman cooler in there, see how it does compared to these more expensive coolers ( snowman is like 20 usd, probally got a bit more expensive recently like everything else)
I'd be really interested to see how the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO stacks up in your review. The 212 EVO is probably one of the most popular cheap air coolers on the market.
Would like to see where these stack up. The TR Assassin King 120 SE (direct contact copper heat pipe), or the TR Assassin King 120 Black, both single tower coolers with 5 heatpipes. Also, the Scythe Fuma 2 now has a Rev. B variant that has higher fan speed up to 1500rpm giving much improved performance, and is changed to a dark color.
I’ve got the revision B on my i9 10900k. Had to undervolt a bit, but it handles 180 watts sustained average load on a 30 minute stress test and never goes above 80 degrees. Dang good cooler, and inaudible over the case fans. It was able to handle the insane MCE 280 watt load stress test without throttling but at an uncomfortable 95 degrees. 280 watts sustained is a bit too much for the cooler. But anything under 200 watts sustained and it’ll handle it nicely.
@@AM1N4L the only difference I can find between the fuma 2 and the revision B is the fans, so if you want a revision B just slap the revised fans on the existing cooler! It seems like the fans really turn the cooler from a good silent option to a good everything option. I kinda wish I bought more scythe fans for my case, they put my Corsair ones to shame.
Running the AK400 with a 13600k in a NR200P on stock clocks, and don't notice any throttling. Even gaming at 1440p the damn thing keeps chuggin. THe only time I notice it get a bit toasty is on R23 multicore tests and it'll spike to 90C, at which time, i immediately kill the test. Awesome SFF gaming cooler for the price.
I would love to see some tests of the cooler designs in isolation of the fans. Ex: Take one noctua A12X25 and mount it to each cooler, If it will take 2 fans try one then both. Once you have your benchmarks compare it to stock and see if swapping fans makes a significant difference. Then we can see what cooler is best and put whatever fans we want on it to go with our build.
I concur! Would love to see this also. I'm curious whether you could save money by buying the cheapest tower and swapping in better fans to get high performance. I'm also curious how average case fans compare to these average cooler fans.
If this was done, I would hope to see the rankings organized by the price of the cooler + the price of the new fan, since a builder would probably need to buy both. I suspect for a budget cooler the improvement is not significant enough to justify the cost of a new fan.
Kind of a academic exercise. If you plan to put on some other fans on the heatsink, the overall costs are rising very fast very high. It would be cheaper to buy a better(more expensive) cooler with better fans included in the first place.
I can recommend this channel: ua-cam.com/users/MachinesMorevideos While the guy covers mostly SFF cases and stuff, he also did some testing of coolers or AiOs with different fans.
@@vollhorst140 if you buy the heatsink new, then i agree. But what if you already own the heatsink and replacing it with another will get more expensive, than just swapping the fan(s)?
There's a Polish company who produces quite a bunch of interesting looking coolers and cases. They're quite popular in many EU countries. Brand name is SilentiumPC. You ever thought about getting your hands on one of their products and reviewing them, Steve?
I have the "even cheaper" version of AK400, named AG400 Plus, for around $20-23. And then slapped in two Scythe Wondersnails to replace the stock fans, it worked like wonder on my 5800X3D. In Cinebench R23 (30 mins run), the highest temp I get when stress testing inside a room with 26 degrees of Ambient temp is only 85 degrees, without any throttling. And when I undervolt it to 50 mV, it never even reaches the 80s (77.5 degrees is the highest temp I get when stress testing for 30 mins).
I live in Peru and here there are not too many fancy brands like noctua and be quiet, on the other hand deep cool has quite a market share and having an option like ak400 is really good
@@dounhi algo como el del video, un deepcool ak400, artic freezer 34 e sports duo, cooler master hyper 212 evo, cualquiera de esos de sobra para el 5600x
Here I am looking to buy this CPU. And not only does Steve review it lovely, he even uses my motherboard for the installation. Thank you Mystic Meg Steve.
I remember buying 2 years ago for around 70€ discounted on amazon a deepcool cooler (the one w the 2 fans) to cool my 5950x and i gotta say, after 2 years of using it, it kept everything cool and it was good for streaming w noise levels GG deepcool
Good content. I appreciate the full speed test results being included because for high noise environments the CPU cooler isn't going to make a dent in the ambient noise of a factory floor
My roommate just bought a Deepcool Gammax 400 to cool his brand new 5800x when he builds it. He wanted white, and didn't want to deal with an AIO. Let's see how well it cools in his room, because his current PC dumps a _load_ of heat into the air.
I really wanted to upgrade from stock amd cooler to a stand up air cooler. I went to best buy and they had one stand up air cooler for 50 bucks. They also had a Thermaltake 120 mm AIO on sale for 60 bucks. I went with the aio, there are probably more things I needed to plug in, but I am very happy I found such a good deal. I'm running at 24 degrees Celsius at idle with a R2600. Cinebench only gets it up to 55 degrees where the stock cooler went up to 92 degrees.
Did a 12600k build with this cooler for my cousin. Kept the 12600k under 80C drawing ~120W full tilt in CB when we were validating the UV+OC. At $50 Canadian, it's so much nicer than a Hyper 212...especially the mounting.
Hey man I know it’s been a while since you posted this comment but I would appreciate it a ton if you share how the AK400 works for your brother’s 12600k in the long run
18:35 there's a noticeable 60 ish hz noise during Steve's dialogue. Ends at 18:49 seconds. AC ish motor hum. Maybe it's the AC running as mentioned in another video? Otherwise fantastic level up on production quality. Some of the b roll like coolers on the chrome shelves so slick!
20:26 or an R5 5600x @ 4.75GHz (locked on all cores) and 1.3V. So pleased i bought a couple of these to upgrade an old Arctic Freezer F12 in my server and one of my current desktop when I built it. I've been buying Arctic products for ~ 20 years at this point. So much value for money imo.
thanks guys for the review, you are the best, I want to make suggestion for a cooler but, youtube bots keep removing my comments, but, it's ok I think you already have that cooler in your studio
I’ve been using this very old akasa venom Medusa cooler for years now, I want to say 9-10 years now. I might even have new mounting solutions machined for it when I upgrade to a newer socket, just so I can say I still use it.
Its going around 18 usd near me and I am pairing this with Ryzen 5 5600 (non-x). I think its a solid choice for my CPU. Pretty happy that I got an OK for my choice. tehee
I hate to be annoying and persistent, but I do wish you'd test the Deepcool AS500 Plus as well. I hear good things about that versus the Noctua NH-D15, but that thing is a single-tower dual-fan cooler with huge compatibility options. I even recall KitGuruTech testing that on a Ryzen 9 5950X and it coming out well which is amazing for a single tower cooler.
I picked up the same model Thermalright Assassin for $21 on amazon. I decided to go for a Noctua Redux Fan on that cooler and it's a been a great combo.
I would love to see the LC-Power LC-CC-120 next! It is a bestseller in Europe as it only costs about 23€. The LC-CC-95 is also very popular as it performs very well for just under 13€. :)
The prices on coolers are so weird to me because they seem to fluctuate wildly. The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2 can currently be found for as little as ~$20 here in Sweden. I'm pretty sure many 4 heat pipe 120mm fan coolers from well know brands are fairly equal in performance and you should just get whichever one is on sale at any given moment if you're looking for a budget solution.
Compared to you the 212s have always been $40 USD or more here in the US. I often see models go for around $50 and some dual fan ones are well over $75 for a bare copper pipe look with two fans. That's basically a very good Scythe cooler money and you could include RGB into that if you wanted it.They are way overpriced for what they are. I rather buy an no name brand than waste that kind of money for budget builds.
I literally just picked up one of the white ones for around $24 USD... best deal in town imo. Needed a cheap cooler for my old 8600k because I am building a computer for my daughter... thought I would research it after the fact to see if I'd been had... no, VERY happy with my purchase.
Great job as always and it's awesome to see competition move the market. I'd really love to see the Bequiet Dark Rock pro 4. I'm sure it on the list with other Bequiet coolers. Keep up the great work.
I would appreciate some research in the actual construction and the effects of the construction on longevity. For example: are there downsides to not soldering the heat pipes to the fins? The same for the fan. How does dual ball bearing affect longevity. How long will they supplied paste last. Personally, I haven't seen much difference between the longevity of different types of air coolers and I have a few systems that are over 10 years old and still run fine without maintenance (dust gets removed every year though), but maybe I just got lucky.
Not soldering heatpipes wouldn't affect longevity, but it would affect thermal performance -- we already test for that. Bearing type impact on longevity is mostly known. Dual ball bearing fans often last for up to 50,000 hours of runtime
I have a dual tower Deep Cool with 6 heat pipes I have had since my 4700K. I put three 120's on it and Cinebench runs with my 9500KF getting to just 72C or so.
Same here, my 5600X is only 47C over ambient in the Cinebench all core test. It should have been in this test simply because so many people own them already.
Will you be reviewing the revision B of the scythe fuma 2? It’s essentially the same but with faster higher static pressure fans. Curious to see if those fans can increase headroom on the finstack and what the cost of noise is.
after watching your recommendation I bought Arctic Freezer 34 Esportz Duo when my NZXT Kraken M22 started overheating with 80W heatload (it was fine for the entire year, and then suddenly it just couldn't do it), now it's cooling my i9 9900 just fine at even 200W
I bought the AK400 when it first came out because it was $30 at Newegg. I run it on an i3-1200F which is probably overkill, but it’s silent, easy to mount and great thermals
I think it would be fascinating to see a test with a cooler that is super dusty. And then everyone will start cleaning their coolers more often probably.
This, I got myself a SilentiumPC Fortis 5 Dual Fan for 50€ and it seems to be very high quality, would be nice to know if it holds up well as a new contender
@@Fishdevil I got myself a Fera 5 for equvalent of about 27 usd and I am very happy with it. From what I've heard their new aio is very good competing with some of the high end stuff. According to some tests the 240mm Navis F240 is like 2c away from 360mm H150i but it costs about 90usd. Also they have new cases in plans. I think the value of their products is amazing but it's so hard to find a good review of them.
I'd love to see a budget AIO comparison video. Also, I noticed that y'all GN have never reviewed Cooler Master AIOs. Most are cheap, though good performers!
For an i5-12400 my deepcool gammaxx 400 V2 is doing great job keeping idle temp under 30 and max. Load temp (@85watt) under 65 and also very silent overall, I hear ac sound in my room and not cpu fan, only if ac is off then i hear mild cpu sound that too when load is above 60%, otherwise whisper quite
the b roll on this video was a step above, did something change in your production cycle recently? ive noticed a distinct increase in production quality even from the already high standard i hold this channel to
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I'd really like to see the Hyper 212 on these charts. It is still for sale and is a well known design. Are these new designs superior to it or not.
@Thrillium Haha coolers go brrrrrrr
Add a Thermaltake Contac Silent 12 to the group.
It's even lower priced at $25-$30 depending on the winds.
It's older, but still constantly in stock any time I've looked for another.
Oh! And it will fit inside a 4u rack case. Barely. So it's actually still relevant for all the people who are recycling computers into HomeLab servers.
That probably also means it will fit into a mid-tower?
I'd like to see how these compare to the current $35-$50 offerings, even if none of those are ever going to fit into the kind of machines I'm going to build.
It's always interesting to me to see just HOW low you can go until the performance/price curve starts getting unacceptable.
For me it was really just about finding the best "reasonably priced" cooler that would actually fit and also not be loud.
At the time there really wasn't much else other than $65-$80 Noctua offerings, or 2u stock screamers (which were also going for $65+ used on Ebay)
I have 3 of these sitting in my rack next to my desk right now keeping some 120w TDP Xeons cool.
Those machines have been at 96-99% usage for the last 2+ months and the hottest core is @ 63°C (25°C room).
And that is with my lazy use of graphite thermal pads instead of thermal paste.
This is quiet enough that I can JUST make out my 2070 Super fans when they ramp all the way up. That includes all the OTHER fans in the 4 machines too.
(Gaming PC in same rack. 85% fan cap on GPU.)
They have limitations though. They can't handle a 180w Naples Epyc under load. =(
But then again, these are $25 coolers...
I keep my Epyc server in another rack in the basement so I don't hear it. Also because the heat is becoming unmanageable in this room...
...But DAC cables are *expeeeeeeeeensive* and I'm being cheap. It would LITERALLY cost me like $300+ in cables just to move those machines straight down 1 floor.
(Unless I can figure out how to disable the fan-failure protection on my 40G/56G switch so I can watercool it.
That would save on the cables, but it is just too loud to use. Like...anywhere.
I have literally had a neighbor come over to "see what that noise is". And it was in my basement at the time.
I can hear it through my sound insulation AND wearing closed back headphones.)
please test the hyper 212evo
@@KenS1267 Hyper 212 is far behind this one. I tested them by 12900K. @220W, delta T was 73°C for AK400 vs 83°C for Hyper212.@200W, delta T was 64.2°C for AK400 vs 74.5°C for Hyper212. so, hyper 211 is just good at its outlook.
'cheap but good' the best kind of cheap
Expensive but bad is the worst kind of expensive.
Should I buy AK 400 for my ryzen 5 7600 ?
Cheap but bad is underated
Cheap but expensive is underated
Cheap but sh*t @Jirkabtd6
always worth buying into your work, get yourself something nice :)
Compliments to Mike and his hard work on cooler reviews lately. Certainly not implying the rest of the team isn't good at what you guys do, but there's been a noticeable enhancement in the quality and rigor on cooler analysis.
I think it may have something to do with that he is aware mass people are "getting ready" for the AM5 launch. And are buying what they can now in preparation for a new system build.
I'd be interested in a revisit of the Hyper 212 to see how it stacks up vs more modern budget coolers :o
Was thinking this as well. My 212 has been going strong, but it seems to have disappeared from conversation as of late, so I'm curious how it holds up.
I have a 212 that I've had for about 10 years, the fan died and I put a Noctua Redux fan on it, would love to know if it's worth an upgrade
Unsurprisingly it would still be inbetween the other 30$ coolers.
...with the big exception that literally any other cooler will have better mounting hardware compared to that horrendous mechanism of the 212.
I'm running a Hyper 212 Evo with the stock fan on my i5 12600k and it's holding up just fine. Ambients are around 35º and I've never seen it get above 75º under a very heavy workload, this is with a modest overclock too. Might be worth noting that I'm running six case fans though.
@@CarbonPanther That's my biggest complaint. I bought one for an extra system and the mount is terrible.
deep cools recent coolers have been really great performers for the price.
ong the ak and the as series coolers are the best in the market
@@invisisense5464 “ong” Are we just making up weird sounds now and pretending they’re words?
Can this cooler pair on my lga1700 motherboard?
@@ikram2512 Steve said it's compatible without the need of a separate bracket. It's a new cooler so it's expected.
@@MarioGoatse it stands for “on god”
Thanks!
Please do some id-cooling coolers! They seem to be really good for the price, especially in some countries where not every brand is available and smaller price gaps are more significant
Paid comment or what?
Seen this exact and similar comments like 50 times under GN videos recently.
@@Waldherz I wish they paid me lol, I just have bought some of their products (just for being cheap) and they turned out to be quite nice. In Argentina you can't get most brands at a reasonable price, but they seem to somehow avoid that problem
@@shibasss Hmm, then some people probably just copied your comment ^^
Yee
@@shibasss I haven't been in Argentina long, but the ID-Cooling seems to offer the best bang for the buck from what I've seen available. Still can't find an adapter that would allow use of a Thermalright (Peerless Assasin) on an Alder Lake build.
Steve, it's great to see you reviewing products like the AK400 -- it's always great to watch a review from you, and especially on the more 'midrange' variations, if I can say so, as not everyone would be looking to build the highest end systems, or the lower end on that matter. Looking forward for more similar content, not necessarily coolers, of course.
Every time I load up a new GN video, I first immediately lower my speakers & sub way down. That GN intro with the bass drop will literally blow my subwoofer up.
Good to see Deepcool on this channel. Love their latest products. I used to use the EK Waterblocks AIOs but Deepcool's Castle EXs were cheaper and look better imo. Didn't do any hardcore testing, but I'm happy with mine. The AS500 is really neat too, their flagship RGB air cooler currently.
I would be pretty interested in seeing how the ID-Cooling SE-214-XT holds up. For a $20 pricepoint, it seems to be in an interesting bracket for what it purports to offer. ID-Cooling has proven to be surprisingly competent with a lot of their other products, so it would be nice to see that continue.
there’s also the SE-224-XT that i’ve heard pretty good things about (for a
@@nathanlarson6535 I have the and I think its a little better or par with the hyper 212, definitely better value since CM jacked up the prices of the 212.
I've got one in my current PC. It performs shockingly well for the price and I think it looks better than most any other single tower cooler on the market. It will never cease to amaze me how ID-Cooling is able to offer so much for only $20 especially in this day and age when everything seems to be steadily increasing in price. Eagerly awaiting the review on this one.
@@absoleet cooler master has absurd prices on most of their products now. cases, coolers, etc. are all like 50-100% more than they should be.
I am running the se-214 on a 1600af @ 4.2 GHz. Works great for $20.
Deepcool is a really good and helpful company. I got their GAMMAXX L240 V2 AIO cooler a while ago for my Intel system. Worked like a charm. When I switched to an AMD AM4 system more recently I had lost the brackets to the cooler. I got in touch with them and they were fantastic. For a few dollars postage only from China they posted to me in the UK the brackets. Now that's service. Still very happy with the performance of their product.
Same thing happened to me with one of their coolers. They weren't selling the am4 brackets anymore when I switched over, but their customer service hooked me up. 10/10 would recommend again
their naming though. shorten it for god's sake.
Lian Li is peerless regarding customer service. I had a Galahad 360 AIO which started to run a bit too hot for my taste. Fearing something was wrong (pump malfunction, liquid drying up). I contacted their support and they basically said got it, we'll ship you a new unit without the fans, postage paid for. Granted it took a while to arrive since it was shipped from Taiwan but that's exactly what I got a brand new unit minus the fans
I bought that assassin King like a month ago for about 30 dollars! I'm not surprised they bumped the price through. It's been working GREAT. Dropped like 15 degrees off the cpu in comparison to the stock cooler with my i5 7600. It's way quieter too
Recently I started building custom computers and these reviews are so helpful in showing what kind of parts I have to look at for different builds and different prices. Thank you!
AIR COOLING GANG, RISE UP! Where mah Noctuhomies?
Really digging the new place. Looks very clean and nice. Now back to you, Steve
DeepCool has been a hidden gem for years. I bought a DeepCool Lucifer V2 cpu cooler back in 2014 and it's been cooling a 4690k@4.6GHz for 8 years.
No issues. Fan still going strong. Cpu under heavy gaming load (3+ hours) never exceeds 61c.
And it was only like $35-40 then?
isnt that huge
Not even the big chongus Lucifer V2 was enough to cool my old FX-9590, lol
Man I love that cooler, too bad I couldn't get an adapter for my new Ryzen, the Assassin III is my new favorite though
@@TinchoX the tdp of a 4690k is 88w. and the 9590 is 220w.
AMD sure knows how to make'em
It China company, not from Taiwan. So you should know why it feel hidden somewhere around. They are very prominence in Asian market but out of sight in North America market.
@@n0rsca392 They were just ensuring that it also doubled as a foot warmer. They've perfected the ultimate combination of the Pentium 4 Prescott 3.8Ghz and the Athlon Thunderbird 1.4Ghz "Block Heater".
I'd like to suggest some coolers to be reviewed: ID-Cooling SE-224-XT, ID-Cooling SE-207-XT Advanced, Thermalright FS-140, Thermalright FC-140, and Thermalright PA-120.
A bunch of friends are hoping for me to build them a sub $500 1080P gaming rigs so this kind of budget oriented stuff is so incredibly appreciated! Thanks for the amazing content.
At that price you should buy a CPU with a box cooler and use it. Spending even $30 on a cooler is too much.
Yeah just get something with a low tdp
tell your friends to buy a console if that‘s their budget…
@@cl4ssic the only thing is game library. Some games are only on pc, and are better suited for m&k. But yes consoles are a good bang for your buck
@@cl4ssic Consoles often end up costing more long run than a budget pc in my experience. Pc game stores often have better discounts and you save money not having to pay to use your own internet. This won't be true dor everyone though
I got the AK400 recently. Absolutely slaps
7:55 - Damn, a fan named "F***" sounds like exactly what my hotbox PC needs lol
I just put the AK400 on my 5800X3D and I like it so far. I removed the pre-applied thermal compound, and instead used Kryonaut Extreme. I also replaced the stock fan with a BeQuiet 120MM High Speed PWM Silent Wings 4 due to personal preference since I'm using BeQuiet fans in the rest of my setup. I have yet to hit any thermal issues in gaming, but I could still add a second fan if necessary. The BeQuiet fan does have a higher max speed at 2500rpm than the stock DeepCool fan, so that is likely helping things.
No clearance issues using a Lian Li 205 mesh case, a ROG Strix B550-XE Gaming board with 4 sticks of G.Skill Trident Z Neo RGB RAM.
i was looking for a reply like this as im about to purchase the5800x3d thanks a lot :)
What is the temperature while playing?
@@elondn7037 I see about 64 to 67c when I game at 4K for about an hour. Idle is 30 to 32c.
@@JJW3 Thanks 🙏
Be advised, Kryonaut Extreme is not meant for long term use. It’s for XOC users that are using LN2. The paste is pretty thin and will pump out quickly.
Regular Kryonaut or even Hydronaut (I use this one) is a much better choice.
7:51 LMAO, cracked up on this part 🤣🤣🤣
Would be cool to have the Snowman cooler in there, see how it does compared to these more expensive coolers ( snowman is like 20 usd, probally got a bit more expensive recently like everything else)
Nope, still around ~20$ (depends on options like RGB\1 or 2 fans, mount point)
This is where I ask why the Hyper 212 is missing from the chart because so many people already own one.
Great review! Could you please test the Deepcool Gammaxx 400 V2? It's a very cheap cooler and a review from you guys would be beneficial.
Bought AK400 for my i5 12400F three weeks ago, 55-60C in BF2042, NFS Heat (very CPU intensive game) up to 64C. This cooler is very quiet, i love it)
I would really love for you guys to review the DEEPCOOL AS500 PLUS, it includes 2 140mm fans and definitely deserves some attention!
I'd be really interested to see how the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO stacks up in your review. The 212 EVO is probably one of the most popular cheap air coolers on the market.
This is relevant to my interests. Thumbs up!
Would like to see where these stack up. The TR Assassin King 120 SE (direct contact copper heat pipe), or the TR Assassin King 120 Black, both single tower coolers with 5 heatpipes. Also, the Scythe Fuma 2 now has a Rev. B variant that has higher fan speed up to 1500rpm giving much improved performance, and is changed to a dark color.
Great review as always, the scythe fuma 2 will probably be my next upgrade. Seems like a damn fine cooler!
I use the Rev. B on my 5800X3D. I legitimately don't know why people say this chip runs hot, the Fuma does that good a job.
ive been using fuma 2 for 1 year now, still reliable + silence.
I’ve got the revision B on my i9 10900k. Had to undervolt a bit, but it handles 180 watts sustained average load on a 30 minute stress test and never goes above 80 degrees. Dang good cooler, and inaudible over the case fans. It was able to handle the insane MCE 280 watt load stress test without throttling but at an uncomfortable 95 degrees. 280 watts sustained is a bit too much for the cooler. But anything under 200 watts sustained and it’ll handle it nicely.
@@legostarwarsrulez Wow. Definitely getting it.
@@AM1N4L the only difference I can find between the fuma 2 and the revision B is the fans, so if you want a revision B just slap the revised fans on the existing cooler! It seems like the fans really turn the cooler from a good silent option to a good everything option. I kinda wish I bought more scythe fans for my case, they put my Corsair ones to shame.
I just bought this cooler for my 13700F. For what I do on my PC this cooler has been amazing. With moderate gaming this cooler keeps temps below 65C.
I’ve seen coolers like this for $25 which is amazing. Have you guys considered looking at smaller coolers, like 92mm or low profile?
No
I have the Arctic Freezer 34 running with a single fan on a Ryzen 3600. On that CPU you do not even need the second fan. Excellent cooler.
esports or co? (copper/metal 1 fan model)
@@JOE_XD esports.
@@boom78 esports 2200 rpm, co 1800 rpm (goes up to 1950)
Watched the review and purchased it
My R5 3600 went from 60 degrees idle to 42, and load temps were from 80 to 60
I'm glad I bought this
The empty background is not very appealing. However, great review as always. Keep up the good work. See you guys on the next livestream1
Running the AK400 with a 13600k in a NR200P on stock clocks, and don't notice any throttling. Even gaming at 1440p the damn thing keeps chuggin. THe only time I notice it get a bit toasty is on R23 multicore tests and it'll spike to 90C, at which time, i immediately kill the test. Awesome SFF gaming cooler for the price.
Props for the b-roll of all the coolers plugged in on the table.
The big.empty room background is quite refreshing. I like your packed backgrounds too, but this one works very well with the light setup.
Just got a Vetroo V5 for my 5600 build. It is amazing.
I have the same cooler and It's awesome!
I so much prefer air to liquid cooling. Awesome video.
I would love to see some tests of the cooler designs in isolation of the fans.
Ex: Take one noctua A12X25 and mount it to each cooler, If it will take 2 fans try one then both. Once you have your benchmarks compare it to stock and see if swapping fans makes a significant difference.
Then we can see what cooler is best and put whatever fans we want on it to go with our build.
I concur! Would love to see this also. I'm curious whether you could save money by buying the cheapest tower and swapping in better fans to get high performance. I'm also curious how average case fans compare to these average cooler fans.
If this was done, I would hope to see the rankings organized by the price of the cooler + the price of the new fan, since a builder would probably need to buy both. I suspect for a budget cooler the improvement is not significant enough to justify the cost of a new fan.
Kind of a academic exercise. If you plan to put on some other fans on the heatsink, the overall costs are rising very fast very high. It would be cheaper to buy a better(more expensive) cooler with better fans included in the first place.
I can recommend this channel: ua-cam.com/users/MachinesMorevideos
While the guy covers mostly SFF cases and stuff, he also did some testing of coolers or AiOs with different fans.
@@vollhorst140 if you buy the heatsink new, then i agree. But what if you already own the heatsink and replacing it with another will get more expensive, than just swapping the fan(s)?
There's a Polish company who produces quite a bunch of interesting looking coolers and cases. They're quite popular in many EU countries. Brand name is SilentiumPC. You ever thought about getting your hands on one of their products and reviewing them, Steve?
I have SilentiumPC Fera 5 cooler on my R5 5600x and it's really good.
I have the "even cheaper" version of AK400, named AG400 Plus, for around $20-23. And then slapped in two Scythe Wondersnails to replace the stock fans, it worked like wonder on my 5800X3D.
In Cinebench R23 (30 mins run), the highest temp I get when stress testing inside a room with 26 degrees of Ambient temp is only 85 degrees, without any throttling. And when I undervolt it to 50 mV, it never even reaches the 80s (77.5 degrees is the highest temp I get when stress testing for 30 mins).
So, water cooling is absolutely unecessary for processor like AMD 5700X?
As far as I can tell it's only cheaper because it lacks the case for the fins. Are there any other differences besides RGB?
@@zhuzhu9599 it depends on your ambient temp.
@@ComeAllYouWeary different fans
AK400 is single tower 1 fan while AG400 Plus is single tower 2 fans.
@@hadifelani thank you for the reply. Are the actual fan units seemingly the same? It would be great it they were, the AG is very cheap where I live
Talk about timing, Appreciate you!
I live in Peru and here there are not too many fancy brands like noctua and be quiet, on the other hand deep cool has quite a market share and having an option like ak400 is really good
Hola! Soy de Perú tambien. Que cooler me recomiendas para una 5600x??
@@dounhi algo como el del video, un deepcool ak400, artic freezer 34 e sports duo, cooler master hyper 212 evo, cualquiera de esos de sobra para el 5600x
Bought the AK400 on sale in my country for around $26 USD (converted). I paired it with my Ryzen 5700x, very happy.
Love these more budget focused comparisons! And happy 4th from a fellow triangle resident
Here I am looking to buy this CPU. And not only does Steve review it lovely, he even uses my motherboard for the installation. Thank you Mystic Meg Steve.
I remember buying 2 years ago for around 70€ discounted on amazon a deepcool cooler (the one w the 2 fans) to cool my 5950x and i gotta say, after 2 years of using it, it kept everything cool and it was good for streaming w noise levels
GG deepcool
Learned a lot about coolers from your videos. Thank you 🙂
Need to review the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 ... its a hard deal to beat at less than $50, seems like. I freaking love mine.
You know, when Steve gives ur product a 5/10, its golden and probably worth buying haha.
Good content. I appreciate the full speed test results being included because for high noise environments the CPU cooler isn't going to make a dent in the ambient noise of a factory floor
Review of Deepcool LS series of AIOs? Seen a few reviews and they seem pretty positive
My roommate just bought a Deepcool Gammax 400 to cool his brand new 5800x when he builds it. He wanted white, and didn't want to deal with an AIO. Let's see how well it cools in his room, because his current PC dumps a _load_ of heat into the air.
I really wanted to upgrade from stock amd cooler to a stand up air cooler. I went to best buy and they had one stand up air cooler for 50 bucks. They also had a Thermaltake 120 mm AIO on sale for 60 bucks. I went with the aio, there are probably more things I needed to plug in, but I am very happy I found such a good deal. I'm running at 24 degrees Celsius at idle with a R2600. Cinebench only gets it up to 55 degrees where the stock cooler went up to 92 degrees.
Would love to see few of Top-Blow cooler to see how they compare.
Did a 12600k build with this cooler for my cousin. Kept the 12600k under 80C drawing ~120W full tilt in CB when we were validating the UV+OC. At $50 Canadian, it's so much nicer than a Hyper 212...especially the mounting.
Hey man I know it’s been a while since you posted this comment but I would appreciate it a ton if you share how the AK400 works for your brother’s 12600k in the long run
18:35 there's a noticeable 60 ish hz noise during Steve's dialogue. Ends at 18:49 seconds. AC ish motor hum. Maybe it's the AC running as mentioned in another video? Otherwise fantastic level up on production quality. Some of the b roll like coolers on the chrome shelves so slick!
20:26 or an R5 5600x @ 4.75GHz (locked on all cores) and 1.3V. So pleased i bought a couple of these to upgrade an old Arctic Freezer F12 in my server and one of my current desktop when I built it. I've been buying Arctic products for ~ 20 years at this point. So much value for money imo.
thanks guys for the review, you are the best, I want to make suggestion for a cooler but, youtube bots keep removing my comments, but, it's ok I think you already have that cooler in your studio
I’ve been using this very old akasa venom Medusa cooler for years now, I want to say 9-10 years now. I might even have new mounting solutions machined for it when I upgrade to a newer socket, just so I can say I still use it.
Cooler reviews for the working-class PC builder. Thanks Steve!
I am glad for the competition no one can slack that way :D
Its going around 18 usd near me and I am pairing this with Ryzen 5 5600 (non-x). I think its a solid choice for my CPU. Pretty happy that I got an OK for my choice. tehee
I hate to be annoying and persistent, but I do wish you'd test the Deepcool AS500 Plus as well. I hear good things about that versus the Noctua NH-D15, but that thing is a single-tower dual-fan cooler with huge compatibility options. I even recall KitGuruTech testing that on a Ryzen 9 5950X and it coming out well which is amazing for a single tower cooler.
As500 plus is great, but it can match NH-D15S only, not the D15(with 2 fans)
I picked up the same model Thermalright Assassin for $21 on amazon. I decided to go for a Noctua Redux Fan on that cooler and it's a been a great combo.
I would love to see the LC-Power LC-CC-120 next! It is a bestseller in Europe as it only costs about 23€.
The LC-CC-95 is also very popular as it performs very well for just under 13€. :)
The prices on coolers are so weird to me because they seem to fluctuate wildly. The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2 can currently be found for as little as ~$20 here in Sweden. I'm pretty sure many 4 heat pipe 120mm fan coolers from well know brands are fairly equal in performance and you should just get whichever one is on sale at any given moment if you're looking for a budget solution.
Compared to you the 212s have always been $40 USD or more here in the US. I often see models go for around $50 and some dual fan ones are well over $75 for a bare copper pipe look with two fans. That's basically a very good Scythe cooler money and you could include RGB into that if you wanted it.They are way overpriced for what they are. I rather buy an no name brand than waste that kind of money for budget builds.
I literally just picked up one of the white ones for around $24 USD... best deal in town imo. Needed a cheap cooler for my old 8600k because I am building a computer for my daughter... thought I would research it after the fact to see if I'd been had... no, VERY happy with my purchase.
Great job as always and it's awesome to see competition move the market. I'd really love to see the Bequiet Dark Rock pro 4. I'm sure it on the list with other Bequiet coolers. Keep up the great work.
Very cool! I think I'm going to use the ag400 in my next build vid, and see how well it can overclock a 9700k :)
You guys should review the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 and 140. I picked up the 120 and have been very impressed w it.
I would appreciate some research in the actual construction and the effects of the construction on longevity. For example: are there downsides to not soldering the heat pipes to the fins? The same for the fan. How does dual ball bearing affect longevity. How long will they supplied paste last.
Personally, I haven't seen much difference between the longevity of different types of air coolers and I have a few systems that are over 10 years old and still run fine without maintenance (dust gets removed every year though), but maybe I just got lucky.
Not soldering heatpipes wouldn't affect longevity, but it would affect thermal performance -- we already test for that. Bearing type impact on longevity is mostly known. Dual ball bearing fans often last for up to 50,000 hours of runtime
@@GamersNexus Hey Steve, is Blu Tac a good thermal paste? Please respond quickly cause my PC is almost on fire.
@@MarioGoatse
Thermal paste is not the issue, dogshit one vs the high quality one can have some difference but not enough to light your cpu up.
@@MarioGoatse I'm sure you're trolling, but to anyone that sees this, don't use blue tack as a thermal pad lol.
@@jyrone3943 Ah yes, the anti-overclocking anti-Intel thermal paste. That's interesting for a prank.
got one for 17 dollars for my budget ryzen 5600 build.. absolute steal! white one as bonus for my white build
I have a dual tower Deep Cool with 6 heat pipes I have had since my 4700K. I put three 120's on it and Cinebench runs with my 9500KF getting to just 72C or so.
I'll stick with my cooler master hyper evo 212 for the foreseeable future. These new coolers do seem to work quite well though.
Same here, my 5600X is only 47C over ambient in the Cinebench all core test. It should have been in this test simply because so many people own them already.
Do a review of Thermalright Frost Commander 140
15:17 The fact that the lines went outside the coolers dimentions genuinely made me feel uneasy.
Will you be reviewing the revision B of the scythe fuma 2? It’s essentially the same but with faster higher static pressure fans. Curious to see if those fans can increase headroom on the finstack and what the cost of noise is.
@10:49 i don’t understand. Please make a tutorial video. How did you work this magic without a ratcheting mechanism inside the screwdriver!?!?
after watching your recommendation I bought Arctic Freezer 34 Esportz Duo when my NZXT Kraken M22 started overheating with 80W heatload (it was fine for the entire year, and then suddenly it just couldn't do it), now it's cooling my i9 9900 just fine at even 200W
I'd love to see the same analysis with the new thermalright products like the peerless assassin and the assassin king.
I bought the AK400 when it first came out because it was $30 at Newegg. I run it on an i3-1200F which is probably overkill, but it’s silent, easy to mount and great thermals
Thank you! Still relevant in 2024!
Bought the ak400, looks clean and my temps goes just right at 60 c max, idle at 40 c. Thanks for the review.
What cpu?
I think it would be fascinating to see a test with a cooler that is super dusty.
And then everyone will start cleaning their coolers more often probably.
Now we are only missing Noctua U12A review for direct comparison with the Arctic Freezer 34 esport Duo.
Steves praise comes close to LPLs:
"It's not terrible" can be translated to "Damns this is good" ;)
This is good content. Vendor makes decent product and prices it sensibly.
white ak620 is so good looking
I'm in the market for a new cooler. Thank you for the perfect timing
I'd love to see testing of SilentiumPC stuff. They make a lot of affordable products like cases, coolers and fans
This, I got myself a SilentiumPC Fortis 5 Dual Fan for 50€ and it seems to be very high quality, would be nice to know if it holds up well as a new contender
Lack of US availability probably makes Steve think it not worth his time testing them.
@@Fishdevil I got myself a Fera 5 for equvalent of about 27 usd and I am very happy with it. From what I've heard their new aio is very good competing with some of the high end stuff. According to some tests the 240mm Navis F240 is like 2c away from 360mm H150i but it costs about 90usd. Also they have new cases in plans. I think the value of their products is amazing but it's so hard to find a good review of them.
@@Bayonet1809 apparently Chinese coolers are widely available on us market
I'm running the Scythe Fuma 2 on my Ryzen 5900x based on yours (and other smaller outlets) review. Love the cooler.
I'd love to see a budget AIO comparison video. Also, I noticed that y'all GN have never reviewed Cooler Master AIOs. Most are cheap, though good performers!
I haven't seen any reputable reviews for the Thermalright U120EX, it'd be cool to see that one done up
For an i5-12400 my deepcool gammaxx 400 V2 is doing great job keeping idle temp under 30 and max. Load temp (@85watt) under 65 and also very silent overall, I hear ac sound in my room and not cpu fan, only if ac is off then i hear mild cpu sound that too when load is above 60%, otherwise whisper quite
the b roll on this video was a step above, did something change in your production cycle recently? ive noticed a distinct increase in production quality even from the already high standard i hold this channel to