I always thought Assassins creed syndicate should have been a betrayal story. Essentially jacob falls victim to templars ideology and he steals the shroud which forces evie to kill him and makes her question both the assassin and templar ideology.
@Moistfroog08 that re-write would've seen syndicate be the least popular game ever! Jacob is the perfect protagonist for the game. Evie isn't even equal to him in the game. Evie is a side character with 11 story levels, meanwhile Jacob has 24 levels and all of the major story moments. Even the last level features far more gameplay for Jacob and a greater focus on Jacob in the story. Jacob retired the shroud, Jacob has the connection to Starrick, and Jacob is the one who had to learn hard lessons to get there. Jacob literally betrayed two of his friends because he would never agree with the templars control over people. You couldn't possibly have misunderstood Jacob more, if you think jacob would ever be a templar. Evie meanwhile is far more like a templar, as she only seeks to control the shroud of eden and besides that she does nothing useful to free the people at all. While Jacob is out trying his best, evie is complaining from the safety of the train hideout wondering why london won't just free itself.
@@Erudito-xn3po i kinda just preferred Evie as a character and thought it should have been focused on her because she was more serious like previous Assassins and actually upheld the tenets of the creed. Jacob consistently ignores the tenets and outright works with two templars because of his ignorence which would have seen him severely punished for his brash methods by the Assassin leaders in England that wouldent have happened if he had done is investgations like Altiar and Other Assassins. Im not saying syndicate is a bad or boring game i certainly enjoyed some story beats but it pales in comparison to the writing of the previous games and i would have preferred a diffrent narrative or even the original idea of what syndicate was going to be.
@Moistfroog08 that's not true. Jacob is exactly like altier. They both are reckless, arrogant and often cause chaos after assassinating a templar. Jacob and altier had the same writers and it shows. Jacob and altier are often learning from their mistakes, and have to betray their mentor figures, (the mentor in AC1 and Roth in AC Syndicate) in order to protect the people. Jacob never breaks the creed, by the way. Not once. Evie actually does break the creed. When evie allows innocents to be harmed, in her first level. She sees an innocent in danger and she repspnds by saying "what a pity, but no diversions from the mission." Later she only half rescues him because he had info she wants, and then she refused to fully save him, which would've been a disaster if he hadn't managed to escape by himself, because evie destroyed the entire lab! If Jacob had been there, he would've instantly rescued the guy, without hesitation. Jacob is reckless but he does stick to the creed to the letter. His methods are often alternative, but not his creed. Jacob is a far better written character. He has 3 dimensions and he learns hard lessons that make him face his flaws. Evie never develops like this. Evie is 2 dimensional and very dull. The truth is, evie is like a cardboard cutout of a character. She looks like a character but has nothing to her. Jacob is a full character, and I can show what I mean via the ripper dlc. Jacob has 10 minutes of the story, and he completely stole the show from evie! Jacob is more memorable, more interesting, and he has a better dynamic with the ripper. Evie was forgettable throughout. Jacob is completely serious when the narrative is as well. The asylum level, the levels where Pearl becomes a villain, and all the Roth levels and the final levels, Jacob is entirely serious throughout all of that. Not making any jokes. But evie does make jokes in the final level for example, when she jokes that she never liked balls, or when she Sat's Jesus wore the shroud better. So if you don't like jokes, then you've no good reason to favour evie.
@Erudito-xn3po dude i get it you like Jacob your entitled to your opinion just as much as everyone else but you dont need to write 4 paragraphs trying to deconstruct and disprove every opinion in the comments section that disagrees with Jacob you could have just said fair enough i disagree but its a interesting idea. Like you said in a previous comment that this video is bias but dude its willismakesmovies opinion if you dont like it dont watch just because somone has a opinion of character you dont agree with dosent make the video bias. I disagree with some people on their opinions of diffrent AC games but i dont think its bias for one character or another. But Maybe im wrong and your just passionate about your opinion of character
Jacob is actually very serious in the last level, especially when speaking with Starick. Meanwhile evie is making jokes all the time like "never liked balls" or "Jesus wore it better." Evie is a eye roll character. Loved unfairly, and her brother slandered for what she's guilty of. The asylum level, all the Roth levels, the pearl betrayal levels, the levels where Jacob tries to make right what he did wrong. Jacob is serious in all of this. And that's an equal level count to what evie even has. Jacob has twcie as many levels because he's the main character. Evie is a side character, not that you'd know it by this incredibly bias video.
@@mafiartx that's a simplification and isn't accurate. Jacob cares primarily about freeing the people and helping the oppressed. He care far more about that than evie does. Evie care about tradition and living up to her father's memory. Jacob is reckless but not without cause. He truely wants the best for the people of london, in a way that evie never does. Jacob would let the assassins and templars burn, if it was what was best for the people. But he's young and so he makes mistakes and learns hard lessons that teach him to be better than he was before.
"People can learn" "I have had enough." Evie represents us in some way. Deep down, we didn't want it to end either, hence the bad reaction towards phase 2. Evie's admiration and respect for the creed and the assassins before her is one of the reasons i love her, but let's not forget that she stopped following her father's teachings blindly in the end. She learned that it's alright to question.
In reality Jacob represents old assassin's creed and evie represents the new games after syndicate. Jacob was written by the original games writer, and Jacob is just like the first protagonists like altier or Edward. Just like altier, Jacob assassinates templars and cuases chaos. Jacob and altier are both reckless young assassins, rebellious and arrogant. Over the course of the story, Jacob and altier grow more careful as they learn hard lessons from their mistakes and the consequences of their actions. Jacob and Altier also meet multiple times with an older mentor figure, who they end up betraying because of a disagreement on the morality of their methods. Altier's mentor uses the apple of eden to fake duplicate himself and trick altier, meanwhile Roth uses practical magic tricks and smoke to fake duplicate and trick Jacob. Both these levels take place in the base jacob and altier have been visiting their mentor figure in. The apple of eden and shroud of eden are only actually present and active in the final boss fight for Jacob and altier, and jacob is the one who returns the shroud, and stays to guard it, while his sister abandons London and the shroud for Henry. Evie is more like kassandra. Evie and kassandra are mainly focused on hunting down ISU tech and hiding it away from the world. They are not interested in fighting templars, and they only do so when they absolutely have to. Evie also abandoned the grounded gameplay that Jacob and protagonists before him had, instead evie has invisibility like kassandra did, and evie ended up with very unrealistic light up orange fear dust, which was just glorified magic, that we are meant to just accept cpuld exist in the scientific world of AC Syndicate. Finally I'd note that Jacob is the primary protagonist of this game. Jacob has by far the most of the story, and Jacob is the canonical character choice whenever you get to choose who to play as. This is confirmed by in game speech and story, even tho ubisoft refuse to confirm it as they'd done with others canon character chocies. Evie only has 11 levels, and she has no major story moments really, and no development. She is complimentary to Jacob in a game that is about Jacob. Jacob has over two thirds of the story levels, and all the major story moments. Jacob is the one who ends up with a connection to Starrick, and Jacob is the one who returns the shroud for the modern day ending to happen. I'm a huge syndicate fan, but the constant misrepresenting of the game that seems only to happen to try and pretend evie is more important than Jacob, when in fact it's Jacob who is more important than evie. The constant slander against this game, caused by evie, has lead me to feel fed up and I don't enjoy the community anymore because I think most who push evie are disingenuous.
@@blackice7050 Jacob and altier are written by the same two people who purposefully wrote jacob to be exactly like altier. The only difference is that altier lacks a social personality, while Jacob is very social. As for evie and kassandra, they aren't alike as personalities, but they are alike in their lack of focus on templars, and freeing people from control.
I think there's like 4 to 5 phases in assassin's creed and you drive some interesting points even though theres a few things to have in consideration 1. The templars in time did learn from one another creating abstergo a company that with time let them control all aspects of people's life almost purging the assassins in the process something you can see in some novels and modern day AC comics the templars are still in control and the ones up top while the assassins have to plan carefully and meticulously in the shadows or else is game over for them in the comics you can see how the assassins struggle not necessarily with the templars but with them selfs and one another. 2. Looking to the past isn't necessary bad but you can't forget that this is still assassin's creed when you change the formula too much is it still assassin's creed? The devs had the right ideas and motivation but with time they went too overboard something we can see in Oddesy and Valhalla this doesn't make them bad games but there not good assassins creed games because far from the op magofent the series has always been about the conflicts and struggles between the milenia shadow war fought between templars and assassins. 3. Other problem is that this stories are all about one character in avery new game which is good but doesn't give the people time to appreciate and love this characters see them grow and learn with time. That's why Ezio is so love the poster boy of the series and the most popular assassin in the series we literally saw him be born, grow and learn with the passing of 3 games and later die in embers there's no other character that has gotten the treatment he got and I think this is hurting the series because it doesn't gives us enough time to get us invested in a new character if in the next game we get a new character every single time
I could love the pre-Origins parts more if the controls in those games hadn't been a single final boss on nightmare to impossible difficulty levels and a real torment! I fought more with and against the controls than against the enemies in the game. Impossible to play with a mouse + keyboard and just bearable with a controller, but with *Origins* that changed. With a mouse + keyboard, starting with *Origins, AC* was not only wonderful to control, but a real pleasure. If the controls in *AC* had been such a pleasure right from the start (AC 1), the story and lore would have become much more important to me than they are, and I say that as a role player. So, I love *Evie,* because she is finally a relatively rational assassin who uses her mind, plans and *focuses on the mission* and the result instead of playing the heroic world savior who wants to bang his head *through* the wall. So, because she doesn't behave like *Jacob.* I mostly played with *Evie* and *Jacob* only when the mission required it.
I dunno.. I’ve always had this nagging feeling that AC I was wildly more successful than Ubisoft had expected, they hadn’t planned for it, and they needed a plan and fleshed out story, pronto. Did they have concepts and general plot beats? Sure. But a fully fleshed out story? Not so much… “We killed off Ezio and Desmond. What next?” “France?” “That works. Doing what?” “Killing Templars?” “Yeah…. What about the present day story line?” “…killing Templars?” “And after that?” “London?” “Sure…. Doing what?” “…Templars?” “ **sighs** And the present day story…” “Killing Templa-“ “ **sighs** “ “Well we could soft reboot! Go back even _farther_ in time! Before the Assassins, hell before the Templars!” “I love it! What would we do!?” “Kill…proto-Templars.” “Jesus Christ…. Ok, I’m afraid to ask…. What about the modern timeline…?” “Atlantis, Animus glitches that let you fight monsters from mythology, and the Helix Store.” “ **sighs** “
I don't jump into the rabbit holes anymore. I did that in my early years and always felt like I got burnt. If there's no evidence to backup the claim, then I move on. However, I will say, writers are inspired with his or her storytelling by things that happen in real life. So it's possible, but until Ubisoft comes out and says it, I'll move on. Loved your video, thumbs up.
I find it funny that they wanted to change the series but with Shadows the game will bomb, Odyssey was good but i feel that they dont want to even make Assassins Creed games but thats what Ubisoft tells them to make.
I always thought Assassins creed syndicate should have been a betrayal story. Essentially jacob falls victim to templars ideology and he steals the shroud which forces evie to kill him and makes her question both the assassin and templar ideology.
This would've been a much better story
Evie probably won't fully heal if this happened, but I don't think she'd give up on the creed like Shay did
@Moistfroog08 that re-write would've seen syndicate be the least popular game ever! Jacob is the perfect protagonist for the game. Evie isn't even equal to him in the game. Evie is a side character with 11 story levels, meanwhile Jacob has 24 levels and all of the major story moments. Even the last level features far more gameplay for Jacob and a greater focus on Jacob in the story. Jacob retired the shroud, Jacob has the connection to Starrick, and Jacob is the one who had to learn hard lessons to get there. Jacob literally betrayed two of his friends because he would never agree with the templars control over people. You couldn't possibly have misunderstood Jacob more, if you think jacob would ever be a templar. Evie meanwhile is far more like a templar, as she only seeks to control the shroud of eden and besides that she does nothing useful to free the people at all. While Jacob is out trying his best, evie is complaining from the safety of the train hideout wondering why london won't just free itself.
@@Erudito-xn3po i kinda just preferred Evie as a character and thought it should have been focused on her because she was more serious like previous Assassins and actually upheld the tenets of the creed. Jacob consistently ignores the tenets and outright works with two templars because of his ignorence which would have seen him severely punished for his brash methods by the Assassin leaders in England that wouldent have happened if he had done is investgations like Altiar and Other Assassins. Im not saying syndicate is a bad or boring game i certainly enjoyed some story beats but it pales in comparison to the writing of the previous games and i would have preferred a diffrent narrative or even the original idea of what syndicate was going to be.
@Moistfroog08 that's not true. Jacob is exactly like altier. They both are reckless, arrogant and often cause chaos after assassinating a templar. Jacob and altier had the same writers and it shows. Jacob and altier are often learning from their mistakes, and have to betray their mentor figures, (the mentor in AC1 and Roth in AC Syndicate) in order to protect the people.
Jacob never breaks the creed, by the way. Not once. Evie actually does break the creed. When evie allows innocents to be harmed, in her first level. She sees an innocent in danger and she repspnds by saying "what a pity, but no diversions from the mission." Later she only half rescues him because he had info she wants, and then she refused to fully save him, which would've been a disaster if he hadn't managed to escape by himself, because evie destroyed the entire lab! If Jacob had been there, he would've instantly rescued the guy, without hesitation. Jacob is reckless but he does stick to the creed to the letter. His methods are often alternative, but not his creed.
Jacob is a far better written character. He has 3 dimensions and he learns hard lessons that make him face his flaws. Evie never develops like this. Evie is 2 dimensional and very dull. The truth is, evie is like a cardboard cutout of a character. She looks like a character but has nothing to her. Jacob is a full character, and I can show what I mean via the ripper dlc. Jacob has 10 minutes of the story, and he completely stole the show from evie! Jacob is more memorable, more interesting, and he has a better dynamic with the ripper. Evie was forgettable throughout.
Jacob is completely serious when the narrative is as well. The asylum level, the levels where Pearl becomes a villain, and all the Roth levels and the final levels, Jacob is entirely serious throughout all of that. Not making any jokes. But evie does make jokes in the final level for example, when she jokes that she never liked balls, or when she Sat's Jesus wore the shroud better. So if you don't like jokes, then you've no good reason to favour evie.
@Erudito-xn3po dude i get it you like Jacob your entitled to your opinion just as much as everyone else but you dont need to write 4 paragraphs trying to deconstruct and disprove every opinion in the comments section that disagrees with Jacob you could have just said fair enough i disagree but its a interesting idea. Like you said in a previous comment that this video is bias but dude its willismakesmovies opinion if you dont like it dont watch just because somone has a opinion of character you dont agree with dosent make the video bias. I disagree with some people on their opinions of diffrent AC games but i dont think its bias for one character or another. But Maybe im wrong and your just passionate about your opinion of character
*The Scene That Changed Assassin's Creed FOREVER*: "I never liked balls."
Jacob is actually very serious in the last level, especially when speaking with Starick. Meanwhile evie is making jokes all the time like "never liked balls" or "Jesus wore it better." Evie is a eye roll character. Loved unfairly, and her brother slandered for what she's guilty of.
The asylum level, all the Roth levels, the pearl betrayal levels, the levels where Jacob tries to make right what he did wrong. Jacob is serious in all of this. And that's an equal level count to what evie even has. Jacob has twcie as many levels because he's the main character. Evie is a side character, not that you'd know it by this incredibly bias video.
@Erudito-xn3po Jacob knows what he does, he just likes to have some fun.
@@mafiartx that's a simplification and isn't accurate. Jacob cares primarily about freeing the people and helping the oppressed. He care far more about that than evie does. Evie care about tradition and living up to her father's memory. Jacob is reckless but not without cause. He truely wants the best for the people of london, in a way that evie never does. Jacob would let the assassins and templars burn, if it was what was best for the people. But he's young and so he makes mistakes and learns hard lessons that teach him to be better than he was before.
"People can learn"
"I have had enough."
Evie represents us in some way. Deep down, we didn't want it to end either, hence the bad reaction towards phase 2.
Evie's admiration and respect for the creed and the assassins before her is one of the reasons i love her, but let's not forget that she stopped following her father's teachings blindly in the end. She learned that it's alright to question.
In reality Jacob represents old assassin's creed and evie represents the new games after syndicate. Jacob was written by the original games writer, and Jacob is just like the first protagonists like altier or Edward.
Just like altier, Jacob assassinates templars and cuases chaos. Jacob and altier are both reckless young assassins, rebellious and arrogant. Over the course of the story, Jacob and altier grow more careful as they learn hard lessons from their mistakes and the consequences of their actions. Jacob and Altier also meet multiple times with an older mentor figure, who they end up betraying because of a disagreement on the morality of their methods. Altier's mentor uses the apple of eden to fake duplicate himself and trick altier, meanwhile Roth uses practical magic tricks and smoke to fake duplicate and trick Jacob. Both these levels take place in the base jacob and altier have been visiting their mentor figure in. The apple of eden and shroud of eden are only actually present and active in the final boss fight for Jacob and altier, and jacob is the one who returns the shroud, and stays to guard it, while his sister abandons London and the shroud for Henry.
Evie is more like kassandra. Evie and kassandra are mainly focused on hunting down ISU tech and hiding it away from the world. They are not interested in fighting templars, and they only do so when they absolutely have to. Evie also abandoned the grounded gameplay that Jacob and protagonists before him had, instead evie has invisibility like kassandra did, and evie ended up with very unrealistic light up orange fear dust, which was just glorified magic, that we are meant to just accept cpuld exist in the scientific world of AC Syndicate.
Finally I'd note that Jacob is the primary protagonist of this game. Jacob has by far the most of the story, and Jacob is the canonical character choice whenever you get to choose who to play as. This is confirmed by in game speech and story, even tho ubisoft refuse to confirm it as they'd done with others canon character chocies. Evie only has 11 levels, and she has no major story moments really, and no development. She is complimentary to Jacob in a game that is about Jacob. Jacob has over two thirds of the story levels, and all the major story moments. Jacob is the one who ends up with a connection to Starrick, and Jacob is the one who returns the shroud for the modern day ending to happen.
I'm a huge syndicate fan, but the constant misrepresenting of the game that seems only to happen to try and pretend evie is more important than Jacob, when in fact it's Jacob who is more important than evie. The constant slander against this game, caused by evie, has lead me to feel fed up and I don't enjoy the community anymore because I think most who push evie are disingenuous.
@Erudito-xn3po
That's a good theory, but I think Altair and Jacob are nothing alike and the same thing for Kassandra and Evie
@@blackice7050 Jacob and altier are written by the same two people who purposefully wrote jacob to be exactly like altier. The only difference is that altier lacks a social personality, while Jacob is very social. As for evie and kassandra, they aren't alike as personalities, but they are alike in their lack of focus on templars, and freeing people from control.
I think Montreal should focus on assassin's vs templars and Quebec can focus more on the Isu
It's crazy how in the recent games since Odyssey we always canonically spared the grandmaster and just talk with them.
As something of a newly professional writer myself, it would have been a dream to work on an Assassin's Creed game some years ago.
Nothing bad with an analogy I suppose, the series did change after all. For better or worse
I think there's like 4 to 5 phases in assassin's creed and you drive some interesting points even though theres a few things to have in consideration
1. The templars in time did learn from one another creating abstergo a company that with time let them control all aspects of people's life almost purging the assassins in the process something you can see in some novels and modern day AC comics the templars are still in control and the ones up top while the assassins have to plan carefully and meticulously in the shadows or else is game over for them in the comics you can see how the assassins struggle not necessarily with the templars but with them selfs and one another.
2. Looking to the past isn't necessary bad but you can't forget that this is still assassin's creed when you change the formula too much is it still assassin's creed? The devs had the right ideas and motivation but with time they went too overboard something we can see in Oddesy and Valhalla this doesn't make them bad games but there not good assassins creed games because far from the op magofent the series has always been about the conflicts and struggles between the milenia shadow war fought between templars and assassins.
3. Other problem is that this stories are all about one character in avery new game which is good but doesn't give the people time to appreciate and love this characters see them grow and learn with time. That's why Ezio is so love the poster boy of the series and the most popular assassin in the series we literally saw him be born, grow and learn with the passing of 3 games and later die in embers there's no other character that has gotten the treatment he got and I think this is hurting the series because it doesn't gives us enough time to get us invested in a new character if in the next game we get a new character every single time
I could love the pre-Origins parts more if the controls in those games hadn't been a single final boss on nightmare to impossible difficulty levels and a real torment!
I fought more with and against the controls than against the enemies in the game.
Impossible to play with a mouse + keyboard and just bearable with a controller, but with *Origins* that changed.
With a mouse + keyboard, starting with *Origins, AC* was not only wonderful to control, but a real pleasure.
If the controls in *AC* had been such a pleasure right from the start (AC 1), the story and lore would have become much more important to me than they are, and I say that as a role player.
So, I love *Evie,* because she is finally a relatively rational assassin who uses her mind, plans and *focuses on the mission* and the result instead of playing the heroic world savior who wants to bang his head *through* the wall.
So, because she doesn't behave like *Jacob.*
I mostly played with *Evie* and *Jacob* only when the mission required it.
Will you rank assassin's creed 4 weapons or any ac
I dunno..
I’ve always had this nagging feeling that AC I was wildly more successful than Ubisoft had expected, they hadn’t planned for it, and they needed a plan and fleshed out story, pronto.
Did they have concepts and general plot beats? Sure. But a fully fleshed out story? Not so much…
“We killed off Ezio and Desmond. What next?”
“France?”
“That works. Doing what?”
“Killing Templars?”
“Yeah…. What about the present day story line?”
“…killing Templars?”
“And after that?”
“London?”
“Sure…. Doing what?”
“…Templars?”
“ **sighs** And the present day story…”
“Killing Templa-“
“ **sighs** “
“Well we could soft reboot! Go back even _farther_ in time! Before the Assassins, hell before the Templars!”
“I love it! What would we do!?”
“Kill…proto-Templars.”
“Jesus Christ…. Ok, I’m afraid to ask…. What about the modern timeline…?”
“Atlantis, Animus glitches that let you fight monsters from mythology, and the Helix Store.”
“ **sighs** “
The book for Unity is better then the game and I did enjoy underworld, these are part of the best book series of assassin's Creed.
Bro really ignored Rogue and Origins.
@overknightacention39 Rogue came before Syndicate and Origins was made by Montreal not Quebec.
I don't jump into the rabbit holes anymore. I did that in my early years and always felt like I got burnt. If there's no evidence to backup the claim, then I move on.
However, I will say, writers are inspired with his or her storytelling by things that happen in real life. So it's possible, but until Ubisoft comes out and says it, I'll move on.
Loved your video, thumbs up.
I find it funny that they wanted to change the series but with Shadows the game will bomb, Odyssey was good but i feel that they dont want to even make Assassins Creed games but thats what Ubisoft tells them to make.