The Chinese pickup [ute] formula is pretty clear now; 1. Larger than your average pickup. 2. Small displacement engine. 3. Crammed full of tech and features. 4. Competitively priced. 5. Long warranty.
BYD are vertically integrated, they make everything in house so are in control of all components, No one outside China will compete on quality, price and functionality This is a game changer and the competition will have a major headache The growth of BYD is nothing short of astonishing Finally customers will get value for money at an affordable price
This powertrain has been widely used and achieved great success in China, which has also made BYD quickly become the number one car company in the Chinese auto market (China's auto sales exceed one-third of the world), and the sales and prices of German and Japanese cars, which were originally the number one in China, have dropped significantly. The feature of this powertrain is that even if you never plug in the car and only run on gasoline, it is still the most fuel-efficient and powerful car in this type of car.
@@yslee1401 Don't you think your speech is childish? lol... China's auto market is the world's largest and most open, and the world's major brand car companies are the most competitive market. Who can control how hundreds of millions of car users talk to each other about how they feel after using their cars?
Great video Paul! Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I researched about BYD's DMO platform (used in this ute) it operates differently to a old school hybrid like Paul described. MDO doesn't use the petrol engine to power the wheels unless it REALLY needs to (peddle to the floor). When the battery is low, the petrol engine will start up but only to power the electric motors and left over power is stored in the battery. BYD prioritize using electric motors because of the higher efficiency and HP. Therefore drivers shouldn't notice reduction in power when driving long distances. Unlike old school hybrids e.g. Outlander becomes slow when its out of juice. BTW the DMO platform also comes with a 2.0L version which could be available in the ute line up in the future!
Since BYD launched this type of powertrain system in China over four years ago, it has quickly become the best-selling brand in the market. The prices and sales of traditional German and Japanese car companies, which originally had the highest sales volume, have significantly declined, even the second-hand cars of these brands are not immune.
@@yslee1401 Stop repeating and spreading these rumors. China has eliminated all EV subsidies by the end of 2022. Even in the past, EV brands from all over the world enjoyed equal treatment in China,
Wish the CarExpert team would do a bit more research on how BYD's PHEV systems work so Paul can properly explain it to the audience of this video and in future videos of BYD PHEVs. The explanation in this video is inadequate and comparing it to other PHEVs completely understate the lead BYD has in this space. The engine never drive the wheels directly (front wheels only in the case of the Shark) until the vehicle has reached a certain speed (usually 70km/h), even when the batteries are depleted. At low SOC and speeds lower than 70km/h (maybe different in the Shark), the engine is running as a generator, only the electric motors are sending drive to the wheels. In the situation where you are going up a constant gradient when at max payload and towing, at 110km/h the engine will be directly driving the wheels and can be assisted by the electric motors, but if you are doing this at below 70km/h, the electric motors are driving the wheels, regardless of the SOC. So to say that when the battery is depleted you are being driven by the engine only is completely wrong. The available power output of the vehicle at any moment is limited by the engine output and/or the available battery power. It is not the same as being driven around by the engine only, like the Toyota hybrid system when the battery is depleted. The mainly electric drive characteristics of the BYD PHEVs are generally maintained in majority of driving situations.
Plug-in hybrids are the right choice for Australia at the moment until we have recharging facilities everywhere and better batteries. Especially in utes.
My wife has been driving a Holden Volt for years. The one (only) down side we have found is when we climb the Clyde Mountain in hybrid mode (about a 15 minute steep climb) the car goes into into panic mode and starts reving it's tits off to keep up with the electricity demand. I can see this being a problem with the Shark especially when towing 2500kg up a long hill. The solution we found is we make sure the Volt has plenty of charge for the mountain section and we effortlessly zoom up in EV mode. Another thing to consider with this is when it is in Hybrid mode it will only have 1 electric motor to drive the vehicle. The front motor will be busy being a generator.
The feature of this powertrain is that even if you never plug in the car and only run on gasoline, it is still the most fuel-efficient and powerful car in this type of car.
@@zimuli3549 No Doubt. Our Volt returns 5.4l/100 km when doing 120km/h on the open road. My point is they have limitations that people need to be aware of and that if they are prepared to actively manage these limitations they will have a great vehicle. I'm thinking I will be buying one.
Great feedback but undoubtedly the battery, software and motor on your volt was designed at a minimum of 13 years ago, as they only released here in 2013.
@@mitchbrown107 That is true but the sharks front drive train works in exactly the same way as a volt did 12 years ago. The front drive unit actually has 2 electric motors (plus an e-axel in the rear) Both or only one can drive the front wheels while the other one can generate power from the ice. There are videos out there that show shark owners did not set the SOC to a high setting (around 75%) and have had limitations when in demanding situations. This appears how BYD solve this increased demand issue. Keeping the battery at high SOC so the system doesn't need to go into overdrive to keep up. The Volt here in Australia has "Mountain Mode" dissabled for some reason. When in that mode the ICE stays on and gets the battery to a better SOC for mountains. But according to GM we don't have mountains here. (at least not like somewhere like Switzerland)
@@Sulu-d4r remorse after buying a PRC vehicle sets in within 2 weeks. Being seen in one is already a reputation kamikaze. No one takes you seriously when you have one of these el-cheapo brands
Will not be good, because there will always the media keep telling people made in china cars is crap. People need to be told to hate on anything china.
There is a lot of us who don't care so much about resale value, as we purchase our vehicles for long term aspect. I don't know what percentage of customers we are.
I’m keen and waiting for this, I’m hoping it’s no more than 70k. If that’s so then I’ll be buying one. I’m a self employed carpenter and diesel is currently my biggest expense
if your the average driver, and plug it in every night at home, you will get the claimed fuel efficiency. as most only drive 30Km a day, it should easily hit those figures.
@ahwai82 all over China. The new of BYD and PRC BEVs that escaped the Great Firewall of China is probably only 5%, so I'll just multiply the occurrence by 20 fold
BYD is a serious player and initial reviews on the Shark overseas very positive. Whilst I love the Ford product, I think this will be a smash hit for BYD.
KIA are you listening, bring the Tasman here with a weak 4 cyl diesel and the game will be over before it starts, plus this looks better than the sneak previews from KIA
Thanks Paul - great initial review. Currently planning to buy the GWM Alpha Hybrid Ute. I notice you didn’t mention/compare. Keen to hear your thoughts - understanding that the BYD is not yet available to fully evaluate Thanks 🤘
@@rogersliu1200 Hilux or Ranger will only depreciate less than 5% per year for the first 3 years/60,000kms. For BYD, you are looking at 50%-70% depreciation within the first 12 months
hate to say this: in the end, just like all the big brands in other industries, Oz market is just a very small portion for all major car companies(except for mazda?), we can get thoses right wheel cars manily because the JP/Malaysian/Indonesia market...
Small displacement turbo means Premium fuel. 7.5/100 @ 1.82 per litre $13.82 per 100kms Vs Ranger 2.0 Biturbo combined rating 7.6/100km @ 1.78 per litre $13.53 Fuel prices using 7/11 app with cheapest prices of both fuel in Western Melbourne 29/11/24. Considering that, obviously the BYD can start with a full charge from charging at home over night and that will help but I'm yet to see the cost benefit of this power train. If it was pure EV then servicing would be dramatically lower but as it has a petrol engine still, it will be lower but not as dramatically low as a full EV. Only after months of end users putting their findings online will we see if the cost of ownership is lower.
Starting price for $53K equivalent for a midsize in Mexican market is honestly a lot higher than I expected. I expected something in the $35K or at most mid $40K range (starting price of a Tacoma hybrid). Remember in Mexico a base Hilux starts at $20K equivalent so BYD is twice as much Yet its towing and payload a lot less, no solid axle means it is never gonna be as off-road capable. It uses e-CVT rather than traditional torque converter automatic. Its 30kwh or so battery is stored not in the interior like the Wrangler 4XE or TNGA-F product but outside underneath the cab. So repairing and replacing on that battery will take longer and cost more money. Some of the biggest problem of the BYD DMO platform. This is not the game change that some people hyped up to be
It's a 30KW plugin hybrid UTE with dual electric motors. Not sure where is your 35k-40k from. You pay that for a non-plugin hybrid small sedan these days. 65k to me is already cheap considering what it is. When it comes to plugin hybrid, BYD is one of the leaders in the market just want to make it fair to the brand.
@@anubizz3 I just told you that in the Mexican market this BYD is more than 2x the price of a hilux and still around $10K more expensive than the Toyota Tacoma Hybrid which BTW, despite being normal hybrid with torque-conveter automatic and having smaller battery has around the same torque figure and can tow and haul more than the BYD
@@dkkli985 I just told you that in the Mexican market this BYD is more than 2x the price of a hilux and still around $10K more expensive than the Toyota Tacoma Hybrid which BTW, despite being normal hybrid with torque-conveter automatic and having smaller battery has around the same torque figure and can tow and haul more than the BYD. So much in leading PHEV
@@miraphycs7377 Here another reality for you CRV hybrid towing capacity 750KG and BYD sealion 6 PHEV ? 1500KG..... did you mention why ? BYD more expensive in Mexico? tariff? because in Australia its 5% regardless where it from.
The BYD476ZQF 1.5T engine generates 143kW power, which is enough to support the vehicle to go up long hills after the battery is depleted. The power generated by the engine while not moving is 20kW, so even in extreme cases, you can let the vehicle generate electricity for an hour while stationary, allowing the battery to return to its maximum power output.
I thought this was for sale in NZ for around 70 thousand. I think a plug-in hybrid is a good thing You can charge it on the move and at a charging point or home . I think you get a power discount if you have a plug-in hybrid as well
For a tradesman like me that only drives around 60-70km to and from work its perfect. When I'm at work I can plug it in if there is a spare plug, if not I charge it when I get home and by the morning it's fully charged.
Maybe someone from Car Expert needs to take a trip to NZ, this vehicle is sitting in showrooms to view, looks like someone at Car Expert isn't doing their homework Paul, i'm surprised BYD didn't invite you to the pre release day in New Zealand to see the actual vehicle
With the current models gaining popularity, the brand is fast becoming established. I wouldn't be surprised if we see pricing for the Shark ar the high 70's to mid 80 k before on road costs. It's impressive, and should be at a premium price, but the brand would surely realize its not Toyota or Ford, so will be interesting....can't wait!!
Hilix interior is hardly dated, it works and it's what customers want For some reason you 'motoring experts' think we want constant change in vehicles Which many people don't want
@wwbdwwbd but the Hilux will still behave like new after 10 years, can't say the same for any PRC vehicles. Just test the water with a rebadged Geely called Volvo. They have one of the poorest reliability ratings by JD Powers
@@yslee1401 Will Hilux behave like new after 10 years? Given the unbroken string of quality scandals out of Japan these days, I would seriously reconsider that. The generation of Japanese responsible for Japan's unparalleled reputation for quality are now in retirement homes or have departed this world.
I'm looking forward to it and a likely buyer. We have been imoressed owning ine BYD and i can see this reolacing my Triton if they dont cone up eith a suitable player.
@@curtis4925 Agree, at least for people that live in rural areas. At least not until we know a bit more regarding reliability and service. It will take a few years to prove itself.
Once the plug in power is gone, do you reckon it only work on combustion engine with the engine output only, if this is the case i guess hev is the solution. Especially travelling a lot of distances and towing
The only time when the plug in power is gone when the petrol tank is empty. Petrol engine will maintain the battery at 20% until it runs out of petrol.
This is the first Chinese vehicle I'd been interested in, mainly because of its range and price. I'd rather have a Ford, but not if it's worse range and way more exe.
@@SydneyEV those Rangers and Hilux will still be prowling the urban jungles and off-road terrains 20 years from now. PRC Ute's? You'll be lucky if they go past the 50,000kms mark
Thanks I enjoyed your intro on the BYD shark P.I.H. would like to know if I can recharge this vehicle when you are on a totally off grid 10kw solar system with 2 inverters and 21 panels. Ok thanks again.
I think the main issue will be where is the vehicle going to be charged. We have some electric LDV utes at work but no one wants to drive them as they would have to charge them at home at their cost. Unless you have a seperate meter installed. It's not very straight forward
Seeing the base specs model sells in Mexico for around 53 grand US I’m guessing around the high 60 grand mark here in Oz and upwards of 75 grand for the top specs…plus add in “on road costs”.
Most Toyotas in the coming years are going to be rebadged BYDs and GACs cars (with a different front and back end), that are marked up heavily for the western markets. BYDs rise is not from nowhere go do a tour of their campus in China which is open to the public you will understand how diverse and large the company is. My first encounter was in 2009 when I realized almost every taxi, I got in to in Shenzhen was a BYD the tech of the car was good but the rest of it not so. Still, I knew this company is going somewhere and if u have a Nokia from the 90s and pull the battery of most likely it will say BYD. When BYD says something, they mean business.
Purely on emissions, diesels are now frowned upon. Australian government under Labour & Greenies truly keen to phase diesel out. Australia is truly a small market globally, so no point manufacturing to our market only. Making any sense, I tried to explain it. China basically only does Petrol ICE and they are going to be market leaders eventually, irrespective if knockers views.
This power system is more energy efficient and environmentally friendly, and electricity is cheaper for short daily trips. The feature of this powertrain is that even if you never plug in the car and only run on gasoline, it is still the most fuel-efficient and powerful car in this type of car.
Byd is a exceptional car brand . Go drive one before you start with your anti china crap…… i was skeptical until i drove a seal ….. fuck me! The shark will be fantastic 👍
Exactly. I work in the construction industry for the last 12 years and always have company supplied work ute from triton, ranger, amarok, hilux and now the latest one is 2024 DMAX 3.0L. They all feel sluggish and horrible to drive. I can't believe people spend $60K to $70K on this thing when they never intended to carry any loads.
The hilux is looking very dated. And doesn’t t sound like they new one will be plugin, so forget it. I love the idea of 80km range for free, charged from my rooftop solar.
@@Expedition_Tranquilo I don't have solar panels, but i was wondering if i can charge ev car with solar panels without buying battery too i mean charging in direct way in day time.
Its bloody beautiful, solid and sharp. I used to love the hilux but its ageing in style. IMHO beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And the internal cabin work on this is lux
@@Maige2900I only asked because in the China JD Power IQS, there weren’t many Chinese brands ranked high in the list. Just wanted to confirm if this was the same case in Australia.
@@serilvelmurugan1177 bro that’s American data they’ll spin anything right now, just like slowing EVs cus they can’t make anything decent and affordable for the average joe
Two big issues with Chinese cars is their durability over time and their ability to hold a resale value . Let's see what the interior plastics and upholstery look like after 2 years 5 years and on , battery longevity and replacement cost is another big question mark.
battery longevity? you understand alot of other car manufacturer use BYD battery right? and you get the memo that TOYOTA yes TOYOTA use BYD technology for their car....
@@damienparker3541 LFP batteries? They are just renamed this way to disguise their hyper spontaneous combustibility. Good luck with the insurance premiums
Depends..claimed range of electric is 100km. Make that realistic 70~75km. For me to go to town..60~65km. So I would be able to do all this on pure electric and then recharge at home on Solar at zero cost. So, perfect for me.
It is 47 1/2" between the wheel wells. Even mini-vans are made 48" to fit a 4x8 piece of plywood. To fit a piece of drywall or plywood is the standard for the US. That will have to be fixed before BYD embarrasses themselves trying to push these in to the US through Mexico.
The shark battery is LFP so can be discharged to 0%. Beware the limited electric range (probably 70km with a load at freeway speeds if range stats from other byd vehicles are a guide ) So this is not enough to prevent the ice machine from kicking in, so as has been demonstrated, for those using it as their primary vehicle, you end up with having to charge regularly and have the added inconvenience and extra co$t of operating an ice powered vehicle. Some busy folks will burn $$ by not bothering to charge at home, overusing the ice engine and so making a mockery of its green credentials. Roll on either a all electric version with fast AC and DC charge or a phev with a real world 150km freeway range.
That battery range might not even get me to work, let alone back. And the rear seat leg room looks like every other dual cab. You can see how far forward they have moved ghe front seaat in comparison to the seat belt position. I think a lot will come down to how it drives on road and handles off road.
I live in Mexico and own one. These are next level. The Ford Ranger has nothing on this.
We are looking forward to having a drive of it!
Quando Pesos?
The Chinese pickup [ute] formula is pretty clear now;
1. Larger than your average pickup.
2. Small displacement engine.
3. Crammed full of tech and features.
4. Competitively priced.
5. Long warranty.
@@kalomboC and they have no resale value
@@yslee1401 Just like the Koreans when they just hit the market.
@@AbrahamFarrell minus the spy ware
@@yslee1401spy ware 😂😂😂 you are a joke. Why are you watching this then? They are already watching now uuhh
@@yslee1401 What on earth are you on about? These are going to be a strong competition to other utes in Australia.
BYD are vertically integrated, they make everything in house so are in control of all components,
No one outside China will compete on quality, price and functionality
This is a game changer and the competition will have a major headache
The growth of BYD is nothing short of astonishing
Finally customers will get value for money at an affordable price
@@michaelhermans4753 you forgot to mention that they stole Japanese technology
@@michaelhermans4753 no CNY0.50 for you here
@@michaelhermans4753 except they stole Japanese hybrid technology
@@yslee1401😂😂😂
@@yslee1401 They have basically "borrowed" everything that the modern automotive manufacturers have, except the battery.
This powertrain has been widely used and achieved great success in China, which has also made BYD quickly become the number one car company in the Chinese auto market (China's auto sales exceed one-third of the world), and the sales and prices of German and Japanese cars, which were originally the number one in China, have dropped significantly.
The feature of this powertrain is that even if you never plug in the car and only run on gasoline, it is still the most fuel-efficient and powerful car in this type of car.
@@zimuli3549 fake success is possible when the government censors and micro manage all news and social media platforms
@@yslee1401 Don't you think your speech is childish? lol...
China's auto market is the world's largest and most open, and the world's major brand car companies are the most competitive market. Who can control how hundreds of millions of car users talk to each other about how they feel after using their cars?
I'll tell you a secret, the USA government never interferes and monitors media and Internet platforms. lol...
@@ChaoLi-kr6gs your hard earned 50cents
Ok chyna-bot
Great video Paul! Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I researched about BYD's DMO platform (used in this ute) it operates differently to a old school hybrid like Paul described. MDO doesn't use the petrol engine to power the wheels unless it REALLY needs to (peddle to the floor). When the battery is low, the petrol engine will start up but only to power the electric motors and left over power is stored in the battery. BYD prioritize using electric motors because of the higher efficiency and HP. Therefore drivers shouldn't notice reduction in power when driving long distances. Unlike old school hybrids e.g. Outlander becomes slow when its out of juice. BTW the DMO platform also comes with a 2.0L version which could be available in the ute line up in the future!
Since BYD launched this type of powertrain system in China over four years ago, it has quickly become the best-selling brand in the market. The prices and sales of traditional German and Japanese car companies, which originally had the highest sales volume, have significantly declined, even the second-hand cars of these brands are not immune.
@@ChaoLi-kr6gs yeah right. For every BeV sold, Chinese manufacturers gets 50% subsidies
@@yslee1401 Stop repeating and spreading these rumors. China has eliminated all EV subsidies by the end of 2022. Even in the past, EV brands from all over the world enjoyed equal treatment in China,
@@ChaoLi-kr6gs can any news coming out of China be trusted?
@@ChaoLi-kr6gs Toyota launched their first Hybrid in 1999. And PRC govt still provide subsidies for BEV makers
@@yslee1401 no they dont.
Wish the CarExpert team would do a bit more research on how BYD's PHEV systems work so Paul can properly explain it to the audience of this video and in future videos of BYD PHEVs. The explanation in this video is inadequate and comparing it to other PHEVs completely understate the lead BYD has in this space.
The engine never drive the wheels directly (front wheels only in the case of the Shark) until the vehicle has reached a certain speed (usually 70km/h), even when the batteries are depleted. At low SOC and speeds lower than 70km/h (maybe different in the Shark), the engine is running as a generator, only the electric motors are sending drive to the wheels.
In the situation where you are going up a constant gradient when at max payload and towing, at 110km/h the engine will be directly driving the wheels and can be assisted by the electric motors, but if you are doing this at below 70km/h, the electric motors are driving the wheels, regardless of the SOC.
So to say that when the battery is depleted you are being driven by the engine only is completely wrong. The available power output of the vehicle at any moment is limited by the engine output and/or the available battery power. It is not the same as being driven around by the engine only, like the Toyota hybrid system when the battery is depleted. The mainly electric drive characteristics of the BYD PHEVs are generally maintained in majority of driving situations.
Who's Mike?
@@davidt3196😂 Paul...😅
ByD literaly has no lead in anything lol!!!! all toyota hybrids are driven by the electric motor no gearbox.
Hahahha really Allan LOL
@@PaulEuvrard-hc9xd yeah they dont! toyota already has a plug in hybrid for years now and a phev is truck is going to have alot to overcome!
Plug-in hybrids are the right choice for Australia at the moment until we have recharging facilities everywhere and better batteries. Especially in utes.
Totally agree, that why I just purchased a PHEV BYD Sealion 6. Our full EV infrastructure is crap atm.
Can PHEVs also use braking and coasting to charge the battery? Like how a non-plug in hybrid will charge its battery
Hybrid is the only answer for Australia for the foreseeable future.
@@jellyfilledgiraffe3971my Mitsubishi outlander PHEV charges the battery through braking etc just like a RAV4 etc does
Especially in every electric vehicle not just utes.
My wife has been driving a Holden Volt for years. The one (only) down side we have found is when we climb the Clyde Mountain in hybrid mode (about a 15 minute steep climb) the car goes into into panic mode and starts reving it's tits off to keep up with the electricity demand.
I can see this being a problem with the Shark especially when towing 2500kg up a long hill.
The solution we found is we make sure the Volt has plenty of charge for the mountain section and we effortlessly zoom up in EV mode.
Another thing to consider with this is when it is in Hybrid mode it will only have 1 electric motor to drive the vehicle. The front motor will be busy being a generator.
The feature of this powertrain is that even if you never plug in the car and only run on gasoline, it is still the most fuel-efficient and powerful car in this type of car.
@@zimuli3549 No Doubt. Our Volt returns 5.4l/100 km when doing 120km/h on the open road.
My point is they have limitations that people need to be aware of and that if they are prepared to actively manage these limitations they will have a great vehicle.
I'm thinking I will be buying one.
@@cwilliams4227 there is certainly a new line of education required to work with and master these vehicles
Great feedback but undoubtedly the battery, software and motor on your volt was designed at a minimum of 13 years ago, as they only released here in 2013.
@@mitchbrown107 That is true but the sharks front drive train works in exactly the same way as a volt did 12 years ago.
The front drive unit actually has 2 electric motors (plus an e-axel in the rear) Both or only one can drive the front wheels while the other one can generate power from the ice. There are videos out there that show shark owners did not set the SOC to a high setting (around 75%) and have had limitations when in demanding situations.
This appears how BYD solve this increased demand issue. Keeping the battery at high SOC so the system doesn't need to go into overdrive to keep up.
The Volt here in Australia has "Mountain Mode" dissabled for some reason. When in that mode the ICE stays on and gets the battery to a better SOC for mountains. But according to GM we don't have mountains here. (at least not like somewhere like Switzerland)
I’m keen on the shark! I think it’s a breath of fresh air
@@petermulhall485 50 cents richer
@@petermulhall485 75% depreciation in 12 months. Thinks twice
I love Shark. Because I am using for almost 2 months. I am very satisfied that I can’t express even. I save lot of money and do more result with Shark
where are you from？
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@@MrGanbat84 yeah right. Try selling it say after 12 months and you will need a defibrillator when the used car dealer tells you the price
@@yslee1401 why would he sell it?
@@Sulu-d4r remorse after buying a PRC vehicle sets in within 2 weeks. Being seen in one is already a reputation kamikaze. No one takes you seriously when you have one of these el-cheapo brands
It will be interesting to see the resale value of the BYD cars in Australia. Time will tell.
Will not be good, because there will always the media keep telling people made in china cars is crap. People need to be told to hate on anything china.
@@alangarnham706 don't need to wait-all PRC cars have no resale value and can't even be traded in
There is a lot of us who don't care so much about resale value, as we purchase our vehicles for long term aspect. I don't know what percentage of customers we are.
@@alf699 lol 😂
Resale price of any EV is equally bad
I’m keen and waiting for this, I’m hoping it’s no more than 70k. If that’s so then I’ll be buying one. I’m a self employed carpenter and diesel is currently my biggest expense
if your the average driver, and plug it in every night at home, you will get the claimed fuel efficiency. as most only drive 30Km a day, it should easily hit those figures.
Provided it has not self ignited
@@yslee1401 yes, being a hybrid, is most likely to catch fire, followed by petrol and diesel. if only it was 100% Ev..
@@yslee1401where is the fires lol
@ahwai82 all over China. The new of BYD and PRC BEVs that escaped the Great Firewall of China is probably only 5%, so I'll just multiply the occurrence by 20 fold
BYD is a serious player and initial reviews on the Shark overseas very positive. Whilst I love the Ford product, I think this will be a smash hit for BYD.
KIA are you listening, bring the Tasman here with a weak 4 cyl diesel and the game will be over before it starts, plus this looks better than the sneak previews from KIA
Got a better idea bring it here with a eng like the Kona and Sportage that may poop in its pants post warranty then it will be over before it began
@@-PORK-CHOP- Kia and Hyundai vehicles will have a much higher resale value than this Chinese Ute
@yslee1401 Why would I go back to those expensive brands if I am happy with the Shark, I will just renew for a new Shark anyway 🥱
@@cwd5736 congratulations. CNY0.50 in your WeChat Pay account
@@cwd5736 sure, CNY0.50 for you
Thanks Paul - great initial review.
Currently planning to buy the GWM Alpha Hybrid Ute. I notice you didn’t mention/compare. Keen to hear your thoughts - understanding that the BYD is not yet available to fully evaluate
Thanks
🤘
hold off. Delivery to all presales in NZ will be prior xmas. Not sure about Oz.
I wish it well. Although I still can't see around it when I'm driving, at least it isn't killing me with diesel fumes.
59k driveaway, can't wait to see this on the carexpert test track.
BYD doing some great things
John Cardogan calls it Burn Your Driveway
@@yslee1401 who cares what others say. your money make your own choices and live with it. if you want to pay 70k on a basic hilux so be it vise versa.
@@yslee1401 lol yes! Hes never happy tho
@@rogersliu1200 Hilux or Ranger will only depreciate less than 5% per year for the first 3 years/60,000kms. For BYD, you are looking at 50%-70% depreciation within the first 12 months
@@yslee1401 100%
Well put , Mate ! As always good video
hate to say this: in the end, just like all the big brands in other industries, Oz market is just a very small portion for all major car companies(except for mazda?), we can get thoses right wheel cars manily because the JP/Malaysian/Indonesia market...
Keen to see the review of the GWM P500 that should be close to launch is Aus.
I can’t wait to drive this, definitely going to be a popular car
@@itsdeetee no one is buying them as they depreciate like crazy
@@yslee1401 you sound like a mindless drone that repeats everything from mainstream media
@@yslee1401 are you being paid to talk drivel
Look fantastic, let me at it 🎉….. just need to make sure the wading depth is good 😮
4:45 yes that's a light. Same as the Atto 3.
Small displacement turbo means Premium fuel.
7.5/100 @ 1.82 per litre
$13.82 per 100kms
Vs Ranger 2.0 Biturbo combined rating
7.6/100km @ 1.78 per litre
$13.53
Fuel prices using 7/11 app with cheapest prices of both fuel in Western Melbourne 29/11/24.
Considering that, obviously the BYD can start with a full charge from charging at home over night and that will help but I'm yet to see the cost benefit of this power train.
If it was pure EV then servicing would be dramatically lower but as it has a petrol engine still, it will be lower but not as dramatically low as a full EV.
Only after months of end users putting their findings online will we see if the cost of ownership is lower.
Starting price for $53K equivalent for a midsize in Mexican market is honestly a lot higher than I expected. I expected something in the $35K or at most mid $40K range (starting price of a Tacoma hybrid). Remember in Mexico a base Hilux starts at $20K equivalent so BYD is twice as much
Yet its towing and payload a lot less, no solid axle means it is never gonna be as off-road capable. It uses e-CVT rather than traditional torque converter automatic. Its 30kwh or so battery is stored not in the interior like the Wrangler 4XE or TNGA-F product but outside underneath the cab. So repairing and replacing on that battery will take longer and cost more money. Some of the biggest problem of the BYD DMO platform.
This is not the game change that some people hyped up to be
Yeah right , here a reality for you , Honda CRV hybrid is AUD 5k more expensive than , BYD sea-lion 6 top of the range dual motor PHEV.
It's a 30KW plugin hybrid UTE with dual electric motors. Not sure where is your 35k-40k from. You pay that for a non-plugin hybrid small sedan these days. 65k to me is already cheap considering what it is. When it comes to plugin hybrid, BYD is one of the leaders in the market just want to make it fair to the brand.
@@anubizz3 I just told you that in the Mexican market this BYD is more than 2x the price of a hilux and still around $10K more expensive than the Toyota Tacoma Hybrid which BTW, despite being normal hybrid with torque-conveter automatic and having smaller battery has around the same torque figure and can tow and haul more than the BYD
@@dkkli985 I just told you that in the Mexican market this BYD is more than 2x the price of a hilux and still around $10K more expensive than the Toyota Tacoma Hybrid which BTW, despite being normal hybrid with torque-conveter automatic and having smaller battery has around the same torque figure and can tow and haul more than the BYD. So much in leading PHEV
@@miraphycs7377 Here another reality for you CRV hybrid towing capacity 750KG and BYD sealion 6 PHEV ? 1500KG.....
did you mention why ? BYD more expensive in Mexico? tariff? because in Australia its 5% regardless where it from.
I think towing will be interesting.
It has the power but what will the range be with 2.5 tons behind it?
I wish the kia tasman was a plugin in hybrid like this. (Also would mean Kia wouldn't put stupid V8 sounds over their promo videos for it)
I wish the kia tasman was a plugin in hybrid like this。 -- DMI and DMO is BYD's patent.
The BYD476ZQF 1.5T engine generates 143kW power, which is enough to support the vehicle to go up long hills after the battery is depleted. The power generated by the engine while not moving is 20kW, so even in extreme cases, you can let the vehicle generate electricity for an hour while stationary, allowing the battery to return to its maximum power output.
Most underground parking is 1.8m max si at 1.9m 🤔 be nice if it was adjustable height.
I thought this was for sale in NZ for around 70 thousand. I think a plug-in hybrid is a good thing
You can charge it on the move and at a charging point or home . I think you get a power discount if you have a plug-in hybrid as well
For a tradesman like me that only drives around 60-70km to and from work its perfect. When I'm at work I can plug it in if there is a spare plug, if not I charge it when I get home and by the morning it's fully charged.
It is. BYD started takin deposits 2 months back with delivery pre xmas.
@@imgoingforaride buy it 12 months later for 75% off
Maybe someone from Car Expert needs to take a trip to NZ, this vehicle is sitting in showrooms to view, looks like someone at Car Expert isn't doing their homework Paul, i'm surprised BYD didn't invite you to the pre release day in New Zealand to see the actual vehicle
They're likely under an embargo.
@@-PORK-CHOP- hope that Kiwis won’t be sucked into buying a car that depreciates like crazy
@@yslee1401 All cars depreciate
@@kalomboC Can't see why, BYD AU can't hide anything as there are videos all over the internet from Mexico and NZ at official BYD events.
@@yslee1401 Just like the Koreans when they just hit the market.
With the current models gaining popularity, the brand is fast becoming established. I wouldn't be surprised if we see pricing for the Shark ar the high 70's to mid 80 k before on road costs. It's impressive, and should be at a premium price, but the brand would surely realize its not Toyota or Ford, so will be interesting....can't wait!!
@@jarrodbourne5019 get any PRC cars 12 months later for less than 70% off its current sticker price
Hilix interior is hardly dated, it works and it's what customers want
For some reason you 'motoring experts' think we want constant change in vehicles
Which many people don't want
@@Pyjamarama11 a 20 year old Hilux is anytime better than this PRC BYd ute
It's not dated, it's just cheap, nasty, and ugly.
@wwbdwwbd but the Hilux will still behave like new after 10 years, can't say the same for any PRC vehicles. Just test the water with a rebadged Geely called Volvo. They have one of the poorest reliability ratings by JD Powers
@@yslee1401 Will Hilux behave like new after 10 years? Given the unbroken string of quality scandals out of Japan these days, I would seriously reconsider that. The generation of Japanese responsible for Japan's unparalleled reputation for quality are now in retirement homes or have departed this world.
@@wwbdwwbd a few million happy customers globally thinks so
I'm looking forward to it and a likely buyer. We have been imoressed owning ine BYD and i can see this reolacing my Triton if they dont cone up eith a suitable player.
We in 🇺🇬 UG, Alkebulan 🌍 await the BYD Shark 🛻🔋 EV at fair price then
BYD is taking over..!!!
@@khimani In your dreams perhaps
more brands to come in next few years.... the lolly jar is getting bigger
@@fatdoi003 more Chinese car makers going under this year
@@yslee1401 darwin's theory of natural selection..... they shouldn't have so many brands....
@@fatdoi003 agreed. Chinese brands will cease to exist by 2030
Looks tough and durable
Great review Paul
Be interested to know how far this could go towing a 2.5T caravan.
@@johndoherty2864 maybe around 100kms before it runs out of breath
@@yslee1401 more stupidity. The correct answer is as long as there is fuel in the tank.
What fuel RON?
Love ❤ your program Paul wonderful car 🚙 show come back to tv 📺 . 💚💛🥇🏁🇦🇺🇲🇹👏👏👏
I love it. $70,000 - $75,000
Actually looks like a good Ute. Not really suited for the bush but honestly would suit a lot of people’s needs.
80k is my guess on price.
@@curtis4925 buy it a year later for less than $20k
BYD Leopard 5 or 8 for off road.
@@jxmai7687 yea that’s a nice looking car, it’s just the hybrid powertrain I wouldn’t trust out bush, especially when going remote.
@@curtis4925 this great looking Ute will be worth less than $20k in a years time
@@curtis4925 Agree, at least for people that live in rural areas. At least not until we know a bit more regarding reliability and service. It will take a few years to prove itself.
Looks interesting. Surly some Hilux info soon 😊
Can I bet bigger letters on that grill? Those just aren’t big enough for me. 🙄🤪
🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
I wonder if we will be able to add a snorkel
Once the plug in power is gone, do you reckon it only work on combustion engine with the engine output only, if this is the case i guess hev is the solution. Especially travelling a lot of distances and towing
it'll drive like a normal hybrid
Starts charging the battery with engine at 20% charge. Electrical assistance always available
The only time when the plug in power is gone when the petrol tank is empty. Petrol engine will maintain the battery at 20% until it runs out of petrol.
i think driver can control how many % of charge they want to maintain....
@@mohammedmuzakkir9803 PHEV was introduced in Prius Prime way back in 2016. BYD started to wake up now coz BeVs are not selling
I reckon this will sit at $62k for dynamic and $68k for premium.
@@patrickklostermann in 12 months time, this BYD would be worth less than $20k
@@yslee1401nah, diesels will tank in value when people realise how much cheaper the byd is to run
If the premium comes in at $68K, I buy it while still on the ship....
@@alf699 CNY0.50 well earned
@@yslee1401 And how much will your horse be worth?
This is the first Chinese vehicle I'd been interested in, mainly because of its range and price. I'd rather have a Ford, but not if it's worse range and way more exe.
Really looking forward to this car. I'm a keen potential buyer.
can hear all the screams for dinosaur Ute owners already! I WiLl NeVeR OwN a CaR FrOm shiNNah! as they type on the Chinese made phone or keyboard.
@@SydneyEV those Rangers and Hilux will still be prowling the urban jungles and off-road terrains 20 years from now. PRC Ute's? You'll be lucky if they go past the 50,000kms mark
For EVs, its chinas term to declare " if you can make it here you can make it everywhere"
Will it have diff locks?
Why don’t the motor charge the battery when cruising ?
it does and i think the driver can choose the battery level of charge as not to deplete it completely
@@kennethprocak5176 the motor is only for charging.u literally don’t hear any noise from the motor when driving
It does.
I’d buy one if it’s at a keen price.
Thanks
Thanks for sharing looks amazing well done
Hey Paul, any time line for the review of the BYD Sea Lion 06 DMI?
Thanks I enjoyed your intro on the BYD shark P.I.H. would like to know if I can recharge this vehicle when you are on a totally off grid 10kw solar system with 2 inverters and 21 panels. Ok thanks again.
My wife has a full electric byd and just uses our solar panels to charge it during the day at no cost
why would BYD build a new factory in Thailand for US$490 million if not to gain tariff concessions exporting into Asia/Pacific?
honda been building cars @ thailand long time ago....
Then whats the benefit for BYD when the tariff in Australia 5% regardless where its build?...
@@anubizz3 china is LHD...
@@anubizz3 PRC vehicles with baked in Spy Ware will not be too popular in the west
One thing that stood out to me with the interior is the drivers leg room! Looks far too narrow
I reckon $70k
No way .. 55k
China has been amazingly priced with their vehicles on recent times
@@joshowens2062 they will have to be very cheap to get tradies on board .
@@MrBigbangbuzz I hope your right if so I’ll deffo be swapping my 2021 amarok for one
@@stevo7454 will be interesting , seal are now $58k so you think being a hybrid it would be cheaper than that
I think the main issue will be where is the vehicle going to be charged. We have some electric LDV utes at work but no one wants to drive them as they would have to charge them at home at their cost. Unless you have a seperate meter installed. It's not very straight forward
You never "have to" plug it in. You could just use the gas tank.
Seeing the base specs model sells in Mexico for around 53 grand US I’m guessing around the high 60 grand mark here in Oz and upwards of 75 grand for the top specs…plus add in “on road costs”.
@@johncleaver4245 but it 12 month later for less than $20k
Most Toyotas in the coming years are going to be rebadged BYDs and GACs cars (with a different front and back end), that are marked up heavily for the western markets. BYDs rise is not from nowhere go do a tour of their campus in China which is open to the public you will understand how diverse and large the company is. My first encounter was in 2009 when I realized almost every taxi, I got in to in Shenzhen was a BYD the tech of the car was good but the rest of it not so. Still, I knew this company is going somewhere and if u have a Nokia from the 90s and pull the battery of most likely it will say BYD. When BYD says something, they mean business.
@@amjedali5164 and yet, all PRC vehicles have no resale value
Depends on the car 2020 MG HS and a rav4 lost the same % in value. If you use the real purchase price not the BS toyota has on there website.
@@amjedali5164 used car dealerships don’t even accept PRC branded vehicles for trade-in, hence it has no resale value at all
I will stick to my Diesel BT50 thanks that can actually tow a caravan.
You will never see these touring anywhere else but a coastline
Hey I’m just curious. Why don’t you change the drive modes in some of you other videos like some of the BMW’s and European cars?
I think they will need to price this under $60k to convert Aussies from Ford and Toyota.
And based on their other car prices, they probably can do it.
$60K ?, I just can't see that, unless they strip a lot of features out of the car. Boy, I do hope they do but.
Why don't manufacturers make diesel hybrid? Honest question?
Purely on emissions, diesels are now frowned upon. Australian government under Labour & Greenies truly keen to phase diesel out. Australia is truly a small market globally, so no point manufacturing to our market only. Making any sense, I tried to explain it.
China basically only does Petrol ICE and they are going to be market leaders eventually, irrespective if knockers views.
Thank you for the info mate. Cheers.
This power system is more energy efficient and environmentally friendly, and electricity is cheaper for short daily trips.
The feature of this powertrain is that even if you never plug in the car and only run on gasoline, it is still the most fuel-efficient and powerful car in this type of car.
diesel engine is not very practical in electricity generating and battery recharging, the motor can provide the high torque needs.
Byd is a exceptional car brand .
Go drive one before you start with your anti china crap…… i was skeptical until i drove a seal ….. fuck me! The shark will be fantastic 👍
CNY0.50 for you
@@yslee1401 2sb
Nope, not a chance
Exactly. I work in the construction industry for the last 12 years and always have company supplied work ute from triton, ranger, amarok, hilux and now the latest one is 2024 DMAX 3.0L. They all feel sluggish and horrible to drive. I can't believe people spend $60K to $70K on this thing when they never intended to carry any loads.
Interesting video. Did I miss the part you spoke about cost? What do you think ballpark.
He said no price yet
No resale value
@@yslee1401 There is always that one person who has to comment about resale value. We get it mate, it's not a Hilux.
@@andrewstewart1644 if someone worry about resale of their ute.... which means their business ain't that good
@@andrewstewart1644 there is low resale value and no resale value. For PRC brands, it’s no resale value as it can’t be traded in
my precious!!!
nonestly its looking ugly prefer to have a HILUX
@@odra2024 the Hilux would be trouble free for the first 300,000. This Ute would not even last past 50,000kms
The hilux is looking very dated. And doesn’t t sound like they new one will be plugin, so forget it. I love the idea of 80km range for free, charged from my rooftop solar.
@@Expedition_Tranquilo
I don't have solar panels, but i was wondering if i can charge ev car with solar panels without buying battery too i mean charging in direct way in day time.
Its bloody beautiful, solid and sharp. I used to love the hilux but its ageing in style. IMHO beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And the internal cabin work on this is lux
@@pixelmasque but all PRC vehicles have no resale value. 2 years old GWM Ute at Pickles Auctions can’t even fetch $3k and usually gets passed
Great video. However, will a Chinese car have comparable quality to its rivals?
Silly question
@@serilvelmurugan1177 when the resale value of these cars are almost nonexistent, that automatically tells you its reliability index
depends on how much you can afford....
@@Maige2900I only asked because in the China JD Power IQS, there weren’t many Chinese brands ranked high in the list. Just wanted to confirm if this was the same case in Australia.
@@serilvelmurugan1177 bro that’s American data they’ll spin anything right now, just like slowing EVs cus they can’t make anything decent and affordable for the average joe
why couldnt they use a V8 with a turbo as the engine and 2 eletric motors with a combinded of 1000hp.
mostly because its unnecessary. More combined power than most v8s already
75-85k is my guess.
A year later, it will probably be worth only $7k-$8k
Looks great, probably cost $75Kas Chinese are clever at their pricing.
@@peterlee1759 12 months later, it would be worth less than $20k
@@yslee1401 Hmmm. But a 12 month old Atto 3 goes for $39k......plus on roads. Get a grip!
@@fastfil ask any used car dealer if they accept PRC cars. Asking price is nowhere near selling price, provided you attempt to sell yourself
My Thailand Ford Ranger was crap so went and brought a Japanese Toyota Hilux.Gonna get this BYD pick up next.Toyotas are becoming boring.
hilux is built in thailand aswell mate
@@terryatkins9360 people that post junks like these are paid cybertroopers called little pink
@@lancey1053 this Temu Toyota will break apart in no time
The ICE DOES NOT HAVE TO PROPEL THE VEHICLE. LIKE NISSAN XTRAIL
byd is all about animals 😮
@@dute007 yeah, next will be pangolin and terrapin
Two big issues with Chinese cars is their durability over time and their ability to hold a resale value . Let's see what the interior plastics and upholstery look like after 2 years 5 years and on , battery longevity and replacement cost is another big question mark.
@@Gordon_L they have no resale value at all
go look for a cheap use GWM ute and you will see.
battery longevity? you understand alot of other car manufacturer use BYD battery right? and you get the memo that TOYOTA yes TOYOTA use BYD technology for their car....
Battery will be lfp for sure, so longevity will not be an issue
@@damienparker3541 LFP batteries? They are just renamed this way to disguise their hyper spontaneous combustibility. Good luck with the insurance premiums
I think the top spec'd Shark might sell for $85K +
Sorry to hi-jack ya video mate but did you stop making your podcast? 🤔 as i wonder what donna thinks of this new ute
I would buy a hybrid but not a plug in having to recharge it. 😊
So you don't like the idea of cheaper energy to run the car?
@@OTPulse
No .
Depends..claimed range of electric is 100km. Make that realistic 70~75km. For me to go to town..60~65km. So I would be able to do all this on pure electric and then recharge at home on Solar at zero cost. So, perfect for me.
It is 47 1/2" between the wheel wells. Even mini-vans are made 48" to fit a 4x8 piece of plywood. To fit a piece of drywall or plywood is the standard for the US. That will have to be fixed before BYD embarrasses themselves trying to push these in to the US through Mexico.
Looks like Rivian is missing out on a large market here.
All the HVAC controls are are the touchscreen? Dangerous! Bring back the buttons!
Hilux
It has excellent voice commands, just use that.
@@peej542 only if you speak in Chinese
@yslee1401 Wow, that's a stupid comment. I'm honestly quite impressed with the ignorance you displayed.
@@peej542 he is a mental menace. He seriously needs help....
I think it is smart to keep the towing capacity at 2.5 tonnes.
3.5 Tonne towing on the utes in its class is dangerous and stupid.
Plug in hybrids are the dumbest idea, by a long shot. Get the ICE to charge the electric motors.
Battery tech is moving so fast it would be wise to wait 3 to 5 years for full electric
@@StuartKarlson-qn8pj BYD has been focussing on full BEV all this while only to realise that Toyota’s focus on HEV and PHEV is the correct market move
BYD will price it at the top end of the market.
That 2.5t towing hurts it big time
@@d_onthebitefishing6811 that’s provided the ladder frame can take that load
i hardly see those ute warriors @ pacific hwy towing anything...
BYD said they are going to have a different variants of Shark that focus on each specific task so you can wait for a shark that is specific on towing
@@yslee1401 omg get help
That shark has eaten Ford Ranger and the new gen Mitsubishi Triton, you can see it from its face.
The shark battery is LFP so can be discharged to 0%. Beware the limited electric range (probably 70km with a load at freeway speeds if range stats from other byd vehicles are a guide ) So this is not enough to prevent the ice machine from kicking in, so as has been demonstrated, for those using it as their primary vehicle, you end up with having to charge regularly and have the added inconvenience and extra co$t of operating an ice powered vehicle. Some busy folks will burn $$ by not bothering to charge at home, overusing the ice engine and so making a mockery of its green credentials. Roll on either a all electric version with fast AC and DC charge or a phev with a real world 150km freeway range.
That battery range might not even get me to work, let alone back.
And the rear seat leg room looks like every other dual cab. You can see how far forward they have moved ghe front seaat in comparison to the seat belt position.
I think a lot will come down to how it drives on road and handles off road.
Oh great, another weld body twin cab ute. Great for looking like it’s doing work but mostly a sedan with worse handling that costs $30000 more.