Elden Ring - All Final Battle Dialogues (Shadow of the Erdtree)
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- 00:00 Freyja
00:55 Hornsent
01:21 Moore
01:47 Dryleaf Dane
01:58 Sir Ansbach
03:32 Thiollier
04:13 Leda
Soundtrack of the fight: "Those United In Common Cause" - Ігри
Sir Ansbach, the one true bro
Dont forget my Boy Thiollier, shoutout to These two real ones 🗣️
The old man is just so cool
He will have to take second place because he needed to be put in his place before he accepted truth.
Nataan is my one true goat, help us out of nowhere. Leaves
Sir Ansbach and Igon are goated
THIS is what I wanted the Roundtable hold to be in the Base Game. A group of people with diffrent convictions but one goal. Only to face off when the Goal is coming to sight.
Yeap! Some people complained about how the narrative is more obvious and linear this DLC. In my opinion, this has been the best change to FromSoft souls-like narrative in years.
Yeah but this is kinda nice! It shows Miquella might have truly been the best solution to the Lands Between, he managed to make everyone fight together.
@@cursedkei66 Yeah, exactly. Whie I don't hate the traditional way From handles it's NPC Questlines, having the NPCs actully meaningfully interact with each other makes the entire Setting more belivable.
It kinda happened but with Volcano Manor and Varre questline - we hunted down all Tarnished that were on their path to become Elden Lord, Vyke was closest but he was locked down in evergaol, the difference is everyone here is either With or Against Miquella
@@cursedkei66 hopefully they continue to improve upon this. imo fromsoft games have always had amazing lore but the storytelling was never my favorite. npcs felt lackluster a lot of the times and real connections were never made with them aside from a few.
I think this is the first time in a From Software game that NPCs interact with each other like this. I love it.
You can tell that it took inspiration from Armored Core 6 and how the npcs talk to each other in the middle of a fight.
Hopefully a sign of what's to come for their next games
I don't care about all the lore nerds watching hours of YT videos and reading doc texts of item descriptions
I want NPC's to actually feel meaningful and have some stakes in the unfolding story, we already got that in AC6 and characters were so fun to listen to
Didn’t Pate and the other guy yell at each other when they tried to kill one another in dark souls 2?
Its rare sight, there were few instances before, Laurence and his master in bloodborne, Sekiro had conversation's you could eave's drop on, but seeing actual dialogue exchanges, characters actually responding and challenging each others perspectives? its beautiful, even for what little of it there is. I was so dumbstruck at how awful and artificial NPC's interactions were in the base game, playing elementary school telephone between Hewg and Roderika, between Ranni and her vassals literally spawning in separate rooms despite the moon gazing grounds being PERFECT for a brain trust meeting.
the fact that EVERY NPC duo was only paired with a mute or a corpse like Goldmask or Lanya. not to mention how dull the monologues the characters usually spout are, always stoically rambling about abstract concepts and meandering diatribes while maintaining this weirdly forced sense of composure as if they were reading their lines at gun point, even ones that require characters to raise their voice like Jerren and Shabriri felt very restrained. I was so flabbergasted to see Kale's questline cut when his character exuded so much profound venomous emotions and genuine grief that feels like so few characters were allowed to express, so hearing Igon just SCREAM his heart out "BAAAAAAAAAYLE" in an Ahab-esque defiance of his white whale was absolutely phenomenal.
@@spicydong317100% Miyazaki even acknowledged the player love for co-op mods, maybe in a future title there could be party system like Baldur's Gate 3, play along with summons or npcs that have specific questlines and interactions.
"Righteous Tarnished.. Become our new lord. A lord not for gods.. but for men."
who is that from
@@-Kagura_Bachi- its from Sir Ansbach if he dies as a summon for the final fight.
@@superlogy8458 oh that’s pretty cool thanks
Not to mention that is most likely the canon outcome for the fight, since both Ansbach and Thiollier are later found dead inside Radahn and Miquella's arena.
No since you can talk to Ansbach in the room after the fight and you can summon them both for the final boss
When I heard Ansbach was a pureblood knight loyal to Mohg I thought...
"ahh shit he's gonna kill me when he finds out"
He is now my best bro and I will protect him at all costs
Why tf did he have to die. I fucking hate this shit, i genuinely got attached to him yet he just dies after the final boss. I get that it's meant to shoe that he participated in battle, but atleast they could let him survive
I think the devs wanted to show us what Mohg truly was before he fell under Miquella’s charms.
@@venargraden9773 I mean, Mohg was still leading a crazy blood cult for Miquella. He was doing it for the formless mother.
It does make sense, Ansbach knew Mogh got manipulated by Miquella, and you, though through death, set him free. Ansbach is thankful for what you have done.
@@kixakii436he canonically dies "righteous tarnished, become our new lord, not one for gods, but for men" as he dies
i love how the seemingly "bad" npcs actually come to help you ansbach a follower of mohg and thollier that wants to be the only one recieving st trina's dreams alongside invading you
It's also funny because Leda didn't consider Tholier a threat, she thought he was way to devoted to Trina/Miquella to betray them, but there he is, aiding us, even Ansbach acknowledged him proper
@@mohgceoofblood8235 St. Trina was an aspect of Miquella so it makes sense that Leda would consider someone who loved her to be loyal to Miquella. But Miquella cast St. Trina aside, and Tholier chose her over Miquella when their interests were no longer aligned.
@@ast12321well, yeah. st trina herself said to kill miquella. it’s not really too much of a surprise that thiollier would want to fulfill that, assuming they overcome the initial mistrust they had towards your words.
Mohg and Morgott are the only good demigods it makes sense Ansbach is based
@@Zarc-wi4wyit’s crazy how Mogh beat the allegations and is now the victim right?
One of the coolest things about this fight is that once you beat them all, instead of only finding their gear strewn about the arena you find their bodies all posed as if they had fallen in battle
Really sells the effects of the battle for me especially given that I really liked all of them and would’ve preferred not to kill them
ah but such is the way of the world, you and they were at crossed goals, neither one willing to back down. You just happened to have the sharper blade
@@alexv1154a necessary sacrifice to stop Miquella. The demigod who abandoned both his body and mind. To abandon his fears and even his Love.
To be reborn as a God, at such a high price, Miquella’s transition to Godhood is basically Griffith becoming Femto.
Miyazaki showing us his inspirations to the end!
@@alexv1154 Loved how polite it all was. None of them were screaming at each other, or wailing at one another, or even throwing insults. They all genuinely seemed to have liked each other, and in turn us also(except for maybe Hornsent) and still fight each other with respect. It stung a bit when Leda said that she was sorry she referred to us a friend the first time we met her on the withered arm. Sort of puts the whole 40 hour dlc journey into perspective.
Seeing Moore lying on the floor broke me he just wanted to “love”
i like how theres a similar setup with thiollier and ansbach after the final fight, like they succumbed to their wounds right after the battle was over
Sir Ansbach is so......awesome! Despite being a follower of Mohg he just comes off as a loyal friend and honorable warrior. I like that there's also no harsh dialog between all the tarnished, only respect and understanding that there's no turning back.
Honestly, Mogh in general deserves better, he was charmed by Miquella to sacrifice his body, only for Miquella to use him as a vessel for Rhadan.
Remind you, Mogh was very vulnerable, he was imprisoned below the capital, and was desperate for the love of a mother, so much so that he was reached by the Mother of Truth who gave him power over his blood.Miquella probably charmed him ,giving him hope that he woud create his own family, his own dinasty, only using his hope for his own goals.
@@spamton5266 mogh still isnt a saint he started a blood murder cult before he got charmed by miquella
Ansbach being such a wholesome and stoic guy makes me think Mohg may not have been such an evil person, sure he probably had aims to destroy the people of the erdtree and erase Marika's Golden Order, but he also was willing to accept those who swore fealty. Okina, Ansbach, Eleonora were all tarnished and Marika's people, the mother who abandoned him. Yet Mohg offered them a place in his dynasty despite this.
I@@DANBAN119
"I stand with blade aloft, blood afire." Is the hardest line in any souls game
Ansbach is amazing. Imo he's the best npc in the dlc & base game.
CURSE YOU BAYLEEEEE
@@darindial8908true, underrated imo. I was dying laughing the entire bayle fight because he wouldn’t stop screaming
Ansbach is great because he’s the only that doesn’t mess with you, he’s not vague and tells you exactly what’s going on.
Roderika, Hews, Renalla and Boggart are in the base game I don't know if I can rate Ansbach ahead of them but he is arguably in their league for me. Best in the dlc for sure.
I wish bosses would talk more during the fights, especially the demigods. Imagine if Messmer was just shit talking you during his fight, questioning why the tarnished were given grace while he was abandoned in the shadow realm. It did wonders for Morgotts character, would be great for the others.
It’s baffling they don’t do it when they did it for Armored core 6. The fights in that game were made so much more impactful by the voice lines during them - Ayre’s Rusty’s and Allminds come to mind
But not every attempt please. It would drive me insane to hear the same banter over and over again. The voice lines on death are already more than enough for me. The way Mesmer says "Mesmers flame" will haunt me for weeks to come.
weird how bosses were so talkative in the base game but here they're all dead silent
@@scrapox217real
I would have gone insane if I had to hear fucking radahn or miquella babble in my ear for 3 days straight
@@christopherlyndsay8611”I WONT STOP”
…sad… forever?
that shit broke me
That actually messed me up a bit. Imagine if these were actual fleshed out characters. It would have hurt like hell.
Moore breaks my heart from the first dialogue to under the castle of the last one here
It breaks my heart when he doesn’t even fight you and instead considers you a friend. But when you talk to him he says that we are the only one that comes by and that everyone else doesn’t come to see him anymore, never to realize that we are the ones who killed his only friends.
@@Wolfgang-vd8kxwait, he stays alive? Or how to do so
@@henriquemuller42 Probably have to leave him either indecisive or follow up when he moves to another location.
@@TheCuriousFan1 I think its if you buy enough items from him, he will consider you a friend and wont join the others fighting against you.
@@brycethorner I emptied his shop and he still fought against me in the end
That "For the dignity of my lord and master, Mohg" line solidified Ansbach as my favorite character in the dlc. He initially seems suspicious since he serves the Lord of Blood and seems like he has similar motivations to Gideon, but he really just wants to find out what happened to someone he truly valued and respected and, later on, restore their honor. And unlike a lot of other souls npcs, he succeeds in the end. The dlc massively improved Mohg's reputation and you avenge his defilement by beating the end boss. Truly an amazing character.
This was honestly somewhat cool. I felt pretty invested in the characters and don't at all mind how everything ended up.
After beating the final boss though, I kinda felt empty standing all alone in the middle of that arena.
Literally you're the only one left and we don't even get a new ending. I know I killed a God, but it felt like I didn't really ended up achieving anything for the game.
I believe that is the point. Not just of the DLC but Elden Ring in its entirety. It's about the futile nature of war, conflict and domination. You end up with nothing but sacrifices, in the words of Marika. I think you are supposed to feel empty. War, bringing in new ages of conflict in the name of declaring godhood or royalty, is pointless.
You literally kill everything in the game. At the end you rule over a city of ash and your only subjects are dementia smith and roiderika
@@sourxpill Oh wow that's so new and interesting, too bad there isn't a series of games called Dark Souls where this is literally the same thing. With Miyazaki its always the same shit every time. He can't write so he just makes a dead world. As long as there's feet and a swamp in the game, he's good. Oh, you can instant block now, but only for 3 minutes because that makes sense. Fuck this series.
ER is Souls for normies, made open world to suck people with no taste and like big ass dead spaces devoid of unique and well-crafted content, and marketed as having some "deep story penned by GRRM" just to suck in more people who have no damn taste. Its not a good game, and the Souls formula is fucking stale.
From the end of the DLC I’m pretty sure You don’t kill Miquella
You're competing with Miquella and Radahn for the place of Elden Lord and God, your own God being Marika. You don't get a new ending because the DLC is not a separate thing. It's happening in parallel to the base game. You have to stop Miquella from becoming a God because if he did, he'd replace Marika and Radahn would become the Elden Lord which is what you want to become.
Also when you get grabbed in the final fight Miquella says he promises you a 1000 year voyage. That's interestingly the same thing Ranni says in her ending. So maybe Miquella doesn't want to change the world as we know it but instead leave it altogether. We know that the Greater Will is a cosmic entity that basically just happened to come across this world. If Miquella had the capacity to change the world as he wants then why undertake a voyage like that?
Elden Ring: Civil War
As it always was. Just this time it is hot and ongoing and we are in the middle of it
Literally the most hype thing in the entire game, summoning both ansbach and thiollier, and them both arriving just to turn the tide in our favors, the best.
thiollier hated my ass cuz i told him st trina spoke to me lol oops
@@PotatoGawd Yeah but that's necessary for him to eventually like you. He accepts that St Trina spoke to you after "Dreaming" enough times
@@glazer6213st trinna be giving thoiller that holy space travel smoke
I like the shades of grey in this conflict. Clearly, Marika and we as her soon-to-be consort are monsters, but so is Miquella. There is no right and wrong here; the only thing that matters is that 'a crown is warranted with strength!' Lord Godfrey was right all along.
Marika's words are also very much true: 'Make of yourselves that which ye desire. Be it a Lord. Be it a God. But should ye fail to become aught at all, ye will be forsaken. Amounting only to sacrifices...'
I'm glad miquella is written morally gray.
@@ett375Kinda bummed that we couldn’t hear him out and choose to side with him as an option and do his own questline like Ranni’s. Or that he wasn’t competely altruistic after all and started to fall in the same pitfalls as his mother, Marika.
@@ett375 Since he married his brother, I would say morally gay, am I right fellas?
Ok, sorry.
@@ett375He is definitely well intentioned and truly wishes to create a better place but lost himself in the process and went about it in a morally questionable manner.
@@VictorIV0310i mean u kinda do side with him if u get ur heart stolen during his fight
Moore my beloved, why did they make me kill you...
Actually if you answer him you have no idea as for his question of what to do when abandoned he gets to be the merchant there in his first place forever
My only gripe with this fight is that it would be so cool if we had even more variations of it. As far as I know, the only meaningful changes we can do is making so that Hornsent, Freja and Moore doesn’t show up(Ansbach doesn’t count since he is replaced by a Sanguine). It would be funny to even get a variation where it’s just Leda against everyone else and she goes insane and screams “Traitors!” like a lunatic.
It would be funny, but Leda would probably say something along the lines that she misjudged everybody, she is a natural paranoid, if she saw everybody turning agaisnt Miquella she wouldnt be that surprised imo
@@richy9589 Yeah true, but also this is a Fromsoftware game, calm and collected characters making a 180 and start rambling like lunatics isn’t that rare of an occurrence.
(This DLC alone has like 2)
@@IronForce-ff2qx eh... in terms of characters that just start screaming like lunatics Ymir, Thiollier, Igon (who was on our side even at his most insane moments), Midra, and to a lesser extent Hornsent all seemed very obviously unstable right from the start. the only real 180 in this DLC is Thiollier turning it around and ending up as our ally (and he frankly still seems like an unstable fanatic). this DLC pretty much avoided ever having the calm characters completely break, if anything Leda was scarier for the fact that she remained calm and composed even as everything collapsed around her
To be fair, while Freja is a paranoid bitch, she isn't an insane madwoman. Even as Ansbach admits, her suspicions are mostly correct. It's just that her suspicions involve furthering a goal opposed to us rather than helping. The only blame that she ends up completely wrong for is Hornsent, but that's because Hornsent is an even bigger asshole than anyone expected but in a way that helps her.
Sir Ansbach just looking for the truth
Sir Ansbach makes me wish there was a Mohg ending to the main game
The Lord of Blood deserved better
Justice for Mohg
He deserved better
Nah Mohg was still a bad guy
@@ayh4968rightfully so
@@ayh4968he was as good as someone raised in a sewer who's mother figure was a goddess obsessed with bleeding out could be
This fight is better than the final boss fight. The way all the NPCs interact with each other is so peak.
Is this fight hyped enough and emotional enough? Yes
Does this fight shows each characters' special traits and abilities? Yes
Is this fight actually challenging but fair and fun? Yes
Does this fight not try to absolutely brick your console with seventy thousand pillars of lights? Yes
Yup, better than the final boss
@@faber6482the final boss should have been a gimmick like ancient wyvern and be done with it, awful boss fight
Never thought Npc fight can be one of the best moment in Elden Ring
Now imagine if some other NPCs from the base game could join you too if they lived at this time. In particular Bernahl and Millicent. "I don't know where I am, I don't know who I'm fighting but my friend called and I shall answer"
That would kick so much ass
Imagine if Blaidd didn’t die and you could summon him
Alexander the jar-bro would absolutely come too our aid.
Intentionally avoid hurting Varre so he may help too
I would have loved having blaidd and alexander as allies on this fight
@@toadd3498that would have actually been dope
Varre hating the player, probably fanboying over ansbach, but mainly being here as vengeance for Mohg
There's not a single second in this video that didn't hurt me 😢
Fr…
The fact Thioller expresses his regret for doubting you hits so hard. All you were doing was just trying to tell him what you knew and he let his ego get in the way of his own faith in Trina.
This fight broke my heart. Especially Moore. He was a good fella. He just wanted to find things and make people happy.
Oh and the music was just wonderful.
Leda hunting Hornsent i can understand since even if he's helped, he turns out to be a huge asshole anyways and just as bad as his people when they jarred shamans for the lulz. Leda turning good Moore against me is what made me go full on "You're going to pay for turning my boi against me!"
The music, the friends you made, the arena, the fighting between them.
This is amazing. I always love the trope of "friends UNTIL the end." Where for one reason or another, they're forced to fight and kill one another.
Each for a cause they think is right.
Ansbach best character. Shame Igon isn't a part of this fight too though, his voice actor was amazing in the Bayle fight.
Bro if we could get Igon on this fight it would be a warcrime againts the opponents voice acting
CURSE YOU BAYLE
Igon is way too angry at Bayle to join this fight lmao
He’d be summoned and leave after saying something like “None of you are Bayle!”
@@buklau837it would be more like: "Curse you Bayle, you didn't show your putrid flesh to this glorious fight led by the true drake warrior!!!!"
No one notices how dryleaf dane actually speaks for the first time ever in his dying breaths?
I did
Kinda weird how the weak poison user and the blood knight end up being your biggest bros.
Aside from Igon during the Bayle fight, that is.
Ansbach is my favorite!
Real, him and Alexander are such great wholesome characters
Ansbach, loyal Mohg follower... doesn't care we murdered Mohg for no reason. Other than the runes ofc. I don't know, it just seems like he doesn't have any genuine motivation and is a poorly written character in service to a plot. But when people enjoy Igon purely for the fact he screams BAAAAAAYLE CURSE YOUOUUU I get that people aren't looking for quality.
@@CreativeUsernameEh i truly disagree with that. Ansbach cares that his lord was reduced down to a meer tool. He even tried facing miquella himself to free mogh from the enchantment. He can forgive the player bc the player was just as much a tool to miquella as mogh was. Mogh was born omen, and tried to make something of himself, but was never given any respect by anyone out side of his blood cult. Not desecrating his body was the very least anyone could do for him. Ansbach is a bro, and captain igon is too imo
@@CreativeUsernameEhand igon? Dude had ptsd and was crippled because of bayle, he crawled up jagged peak while making his harpoons, he sees us take on two drakes and win, giving him that push, he leaves behind his body, begs us to face bayle and call on his soul, what we summon isnt igon, its the rage that kept him tied to the world
Bruh goosebumps when ansbach and thiollier spawn
Ansbach is quickly becoming my new favorite character in any souls game. Making me feel pity towards Mohg while also being an absolute chad.
I feel you don't get the full experience of this fight until you have everyone there
If you would've told me before the DLC came out that an NPC gank fight would be one of Fromsoft's best bosses, I'd have thought you insane.
This was the final battle for me. So many stories, great dialogue, amazing.
The music for this fight is epic!
Moore. my heart. my baby boy. i wish you never had to be fought...
You can tell him to remain sad forever and he dies before this.
@@nameless458 it's always like that with fromsoft Npcs, either he dies or he dies, or he is stuck in limbo forever because we feel too bad to progress his quest.
@@pakkacae4830 At this point its a surprise if they don't die from progressing the questline. Kenneth Heigh is a true one though as he survives no matter what you do.
everything is fine Sir Ansbach Lord Mohg finally beat his allegation his honors restored
Fromsoft games, or just any other games, need more stuff like this. All of those npc quests lead to this grand finale, with unique interactions depending on your choices. This was an awesome experience.
If you answer Moore that you don't know, he will stick around and survive. He's sad that no one comes to visit except you, but at least he's alive.
I wish there was some way to save the Hornsent, but siding with him against Leda and summoning him for Messmer just causes him to invade you at Rauh. I didn't give the scorpion stew so I wonder if that might change anything.
me too i love that dude he deserves solace. but hes vengeance-lust and we all know how most of these characters end up with... 😢
It doesn't change anything unfortunately.
I did all of Rauh before beating messmer, and that stopped him from invading me during the fight. Probably not intended, but its cool.
I didn’t summon him for messmer and he never invaded me at rauh
I actually did give him the scorpion stew totally blind without any guide. And now that you remind me he makes me feel even more betrayed, we clearly tried more than once to befriend him, yet at the end he still stabs us in the back
sir ansbach i love you
Ansbach and Igon are my personally favorite NPCs in this game. Great dialogues, epic voice acting and balls of steel.
dryleaf dane was the last one to die and it felt so emotional having the battle end while hearing his voice
Aww man, I was coming here hoping to hear Thiollier's badass line about his poison and it's the one that's missing
These dialogues gave me the same feeling with ARMORED CORE 6 npc.
“Sorry buddy, but Rubicon still needs me…”
“So tell me…”
“…who needs you?”
Gotta love the fact that if you have finished the game and turned into the elden lord, THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT! I think it's the first time we see an NPC in a fromsoft game acknowledge what you accomplished your end goal, I mean, everyone in the roundtable is dead by the end, so it only makes sense that the Miquella's Gang are the only ones that know about you turning into the Elden Lord.
Not the first time actually, in DS3 if you become the Lord of Hollows, Friede and Vilheilm will acknowledge it in the DLC
my character wasn’t the elden lord but they still called me lord of the erdtree, lord of marika
they say you "might" become elden lord, since you canonically have two great runes before you can access the dlc, so they just assumed your the closest to the throne, Miquella also acknowledged this calling you "aspiring" lord of the old order.
God man did anyone else get emotional having to fight them all?
Yes it was my favorite fight of the whole dlc
“Sad, forever” 😢
FIGHTING MOORE MADE ME SO SAD. I LOVED HIM.
"How readily the sensation returns! The runaway spirit of war!"
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🖋
I love the way it was orchestrated and executed
I loved everything about that fight: the 3v4, the ost, the lore.
It was perfect!
Hmm.. I only had a 3v1 at this stage.
You have to do quests to get allies, but also enemies. In my first run, it was just Leda, Hornsent and Dryleaf Dane against me. In my second, I had Thiollier and Ansbach on my side, but Leda also had Freyja and Moore
@@the_infinexos Leda and Dryleaf Dane will always be there as your enemies, the rest of the characters will all depend on the way you complete their quests.
@@the_infinexos
Same for me during my run but how the heck are you already on multiple runs
@@guardianvalor962bro I did almost 100% of the dlcs in 2 days, every single boss and cave, 90% of armors and weapons, lvl 200 on ng+, now I'm going to ng++, it's called having no life
@@daethmer7834
dude, you didn't have to demean yourself that badly. jesus
Genuinely broke my heart having to fight these comrades.
Going out my way doing the questlines and summoning them for bosses.
A bitter sweet victory
I legit teared up during this, part of me knew it was inevitable but I had secretly hoped each character had realized how dangerous Miquella is, especially Freyja and Hornset
"Sad…Forever?" I wanted to fucking cry.
I like how the characters actually talk to each other in battle. I think the only other time this happened in the souls games was in DS2 with Pate and Creighton.
If you summon Sir Ansbach and Thollier in this fight and they die, can you still summon them for the final boss?
Yes.
I really like that all of Miquella’s followers are from different factions. We have representatives of Radahn, Mohg, Miquella, St Trina… and each of them expand each of their lords lore. The battle and the characters themselves were great. I wish we could also get some more characters, for example a knight from my Gelmir who knew Rykard before his fall, or someone from Leyndell (on Morgott or Godwyn’s behalf), or a Carian mage (on Ranni’s behalf).
Anyway, really liked this DLC!
This is my favorite fight in the entire game. Glorious.
Out of all the boss fights in the dlc, i didn't think an npc one would end up being one of my favourites!
God this is the coolest moment in the entire DLC, thanks so much for this, I was sad that I didn't get some of the dialogue during my fight cause some of them died too quick
I wish Igon would come to aid us in this fight screaming his heart out again.
I found this dlc as fromsoft way of experimenting with both boss fight and npc
The boss fight being more of a cinematic set piece
And the npc quest line have more interaction with other quest line
The things about Miquella is i agree with his goal, a leader with compaction and willing to do good for those who are suffering, yet the way he achieve it is the same as Marika once did, they all think the end justifies the mean, and who's to say Miquella won't turn out just like Marika once he hold power....
Yet i do wish we can have a Miquella ending, which we heal the world and make it a gentler place.
he spoke ill of genocide marika but ended up following her steps. i bet u marika once had his same vision and ill bet u he will end up like her of he achieved his goal. maybe become even worse.
@@Reemon27 The whole Shaman Villiage showed that. Marika once had a noble Goal and clear aspirations, only to have it all be washed away. Even she realised how pointless it all was in the End and shattered the Ring and herself.
miquella had kind goals, but had to abandon everything that made himself kind in order to become a god. his heart and his love were abandoned, and so he became a true reflection of marika in the end
marika saw the genocide of her home, and set on a path to make the world right. but in the end, all she did was cause the same pain for everyone else
@@plinfan6541Marika did believe in the Order and the Greater Will until she sought to understand it and its secrets, and as soon as she learned the truth she knew she had to rid the world of the outer god's influence. Miquella came close to his goal of doing better, his only mistake was casting away his compassion and love and seal her deep beneath the earth. In the end only Ranni succeeded, she casts away her flesh so she cannot be controlled and her soul remains whole and her own
@@thecommentguy9380 When you put it that way, it's crazy how the most "handicapped" side managed to win out most by the end (assuming Tarnished becomes Ranni's consort).
Really, Ranni even just by the beginning of her scheme, took a massive gamble in stealing the Rune of Death and having to shed her own flesh. Not only that, but her kingdom was fallen and its retainers won't even help her, her mother's gone crazy, her only active helpers are three creaking old men (one of which, plans to betray her), and she has to BOTH find a lost city and kill a demigod to get what she needs.
What the hell was she planning to do if the Tarnished hadn't come along? (Oh right, she ends up not doing much of those things by the time you choose another ending).
Best npcs fromsoftware has ever made, the npc fight at the end was so compelling, it actually made me a bit emotional
The voice actors for Hornsent and Sir Ansbach are phenomenal. Sir Ansbach during this fight and Hornsent during Messmer’s. Amazing win this dlc was in regard to npc characters
Igon deserved to be a summon for this fight
I made me sad, having to fight those who I wanted to be friends with as soon as I entered the Realm of Shadow. But, at least, Ansbach and Thiollier were there till they end.
Here’s to Ansbach and Thiollier! Bros until the end!
I actually felt relieved, fuck this people yo. Thollier and Ansbach were the only real ones there
Yeah, Leda was a little bloodlusted, Freyja was ok with tainting her lord's honorable death, Hornsent was crazy for revenge, and Dane was just a weirdo. Only one I regret killing is Moore.
@@DANBAN119 comon, dane just serves miquella 😭
Wow...
Screw these poor victims that miquella chose to help, how dare they serve a kind person striving to help everyone be happy
Like wow dude, you sound really cool saying stuff like that
@@Alex-fb3ck Yeah, he serves him on doing a Marika 2.0 Golden Boogaloo Incest Mind-rape edition
What about good boy Moore?
this is much better than the final boss
Thank sir Ansbach for your revenge
I teared up when that happened during my 1st playthrough... that soundtrack too...
Ansbach’s lines are so fire
Ansbach is such a cool character, a true comrade to stand against the impossible with. Mohg deserved better indeed
When i tried to tell Moore to move on, only to have to kill him and for him to realize he willl be sad forever. It hurt more than a 5 voice line npc should have.
It’s crazy how Sir Ansbach, one faithful to the proclaimed Lord of Blood, is the most sober here.
In my eyes I see Mohg and Miquella as two opposites.
For Mohg, actions that seem vile that he does for love of those scorned by the Two Fingers. While no saint, it’s clear that he wanted to rid the world of the order that wronged him, and many others. Though ugly, the Dynasty of Mohgwyn would definitely be more for men and less for gods. The Formless Mother herself is an entity that wants to be hurt, so that the needs of those who believe in her can be satiated. It is, in the end, selfless, even if twisted.
Miquella, on the other hand, outwardly has a holy disposition to him, but his desires are selfish. Nothing is more evil than manipulation, using others as pawns in your game to become a god. It is clear that Miquella’s “age of compassion” would not be as benevolent as he makes it out to be. We know he tossed away St. Trina, his love. For a deity to not feel love in their heart for people, that would bring about an age no better than Marika’s. I don’t doubt that it’d be one of enslavement to Miquella’s image, pretty much the opposite of The Age of the Stars ( Age of the Stars makes it so that Ranni, while the chosen god, will not be idolized like Marika, to rid the world of the conflict caused by such practices).
We can assume too that Radahn saw through Miquella’s allure. That’s why Melania waged war against Radahn alone, because if Miquella couldn’t charm into having Radahn as his consort, he’d make him one by force. Radahn is a consort not out of his own will, but of Miquella’s allure
Lol I'm completely missing all of this, only fought Hornsent, Dane & Leda😂😂😂
Boss rush to mesmer was a thing hahaha
me slowly look at sir Ansbach and his bow that i missed from trying to kill him: next NG+...you are next
You get his bow by helping him against Leda
@@MalikCustoms123 yeah that quest didnt appear for me so he is helping me against later on of his quest sadly
@@ZzVinniezZ You have to help Leda with Hornsent and then she'll target Ansbach and you can help him or help Leda.
@@MalikCustoms123 well...shit
Very good video.
"Sad... forever." MOORE IM SORRY
When i heard Moore go "Sad, forever?" after i've said to him " Move beyond it." broke my heart so bad i legit froze for hours when i saw his curled up corpse right beneath my feet.
Sir Ansbach is just so unbelievably cool, jesus!
figures that the dlc had to include a gank squad boss lol
So awesome
My favorite part of the entire DLC this united team battle gave me that feeling of comradery through battle it but have to admit stings my heart as well knowing you fighting against former allies especially Moore and the saddest part of this fight is the after math very first time in a Fromsoft game that we see many corpses of npc former comrades laying lifeless in the battlefield..
I love this fight and it is a pain to see the comrades in this journey try to kill each other now.
This battle to me was honestly one of the most exciting parts of the DLC i really hope fromsoft treats npcs like this moving forward
In case you don’t know, Leda is actually a psychopath. Her sword description said that she basically murdered her whole battalion of knights who served Miquella alongside her. I’m not surprised that she quickly turn on you, Ansbach and Thiollier
This feel epic when I do this , their word has such emotions
I legit went into this thinking “oh it’s another Gideon”.
I’m so glad I was wrong.
meanwhile….
Igon: CURSE YOUUU BAYLE!!!!!!
My one wish was that we got to see them all gathered together at the start of the dlc, but this finale was fantastic. All the "good" npcs vs the "evil." With you, the villain, the only one who knows the truth. It was so good.
I was really hoping Sir Ansbach would fight WITH us and NOT AGAINST us! Gonna make sure that ol' boy survives the fight. Love him too much
He was fighting alongside us, bro.
@@vergiltheartofpower6616 I am aware that’s what I said. That he fights with us and not against us
You and I fighting…. Tragedy this it… broke me
I believe this is missing some thiollier dialogue, and its the one i was looking for too 🥺
I loved this!
Hopefully fromsoft does more of this in their future games/dlcs
I really didn't want to fight Moore. That last "Sad, forever?" Just broke me.