James Lindsay: Deep Dive Into “Critical Social Justice” & How It Took Over the Humanities
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- To “expose the political corruption that’s taken hold of the university,” James Lindsay, Peter Boghossian, and Helen Pluckrose made headlines in 2018 with a series of hoax papers that were accepted in peer-reviewed journals.
Since then, Lindsay has made it his life’s mission to understand the ideas and theories underpinning what they dubbed “grievance studies.”
Just how are these identity-oriented academic fields rooted in deeply flawed methodologies?
And how has neo-Marxism and what Lindsay recently named “critical social justice” permeated the education system in America?
Lindsay documents his work on his website “New Discourses”, where a constantly updated “Social Justice Encyclopedia” can also be found.
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Really enjoyed doing this interview, I have to say.
Agreed. Very interesting topics, especially the history of this
Haha get a couch or two. Looks more comfortable than those chairs
Definitely one of your best and most fascinating. I have been following Lindsay since Evergreen fiasco, but it is good to see many of his ideas and approaches have been developed, distilled and more clarified.
I would love to see James with Jordan P. In a joint panel. How this has found traction in society today and why we feel the collective guilt is a mystery to me. The semantic gaming also needs a critical analysis.
Jan, I'm concerned that your chairs are too close together. Social distancing requires at least six feet.
"These are not race experts; rather, they are experts at arguing about race in a particular way."
James Lindsay is a hero we need...
This is such a great channel. Like several others have said, American Thought Leaders (alongside Crossroads) has become my go-to source for news and information. Kudos to The Epoch Times😊👍🏾
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Jan had to 'grow' on me.But he is a top notch interviewer.
Outstanding interview! The way Mr. Lindsey articulates his position is darn near impossible to refute.
one of the most influential speakers I have listened to in many years ,, opened my eyes and made me start to change my life for the better
I heard this guy on Joe rogan. I'm glad to see him here. Thanks! I wish American thought leaders was heard by more people. Love this channel!
Norcalreppin1 I agree! Try sharing with family and friends and on social media...FB can be good for something!
Please also see the series of videos on Sovereign Nations. They are superb.
@Jeannie Seibert No. Sovereign Nations is a Christian Group Channel and Michael Fallon became interested in the post modern impact on our society. I only know of the channel via these particular videos ... the other content is not of interest to me
From Andrew Breitbart to Jordan Perterson to Douglas Murray, I have not heard anyone give as clear and fair-handed an overview of Critical Theory. Extraordinary job.
Anthony Greene What! I’m not crazy? Thank you sir. Your focus is perfect, your analysis nails this idiotic scenery in which we find ourselves today.
There is no personal responsibility in a culture that doesn't celebrate the individual.
Not to the EXCLUSION of others though.
We're all individuals.
I’ve been listening to Lindsay for awhile now. Really happy to see him on this channel
I'm a big fan of Dr. Lindsay -- it's funny to see him in a jacket and tie and speaking more formally.
Check out the sneakers!
They not only complain about things that happened to them, they make it up.
Having experienced a life change followed by deep depression, I can definitely say that when I was actually able to stop thinking about why these awful things happened TO ME and started thinking about what I COULD DO, I started to get better. Yes, my life has changed and there is no going back to “before”. Getting back to helping others brought me more healing and greater satisfaction. It’s surprisingly easy to get sucked into the mindset of “I am being abused”. But....it is curable.
🚨Welcome to Jan's interview with James Lindsay, co-founder of New Discourses. Please let us know if you have any questions that stem from the interview! Please note that it was pre-recorded.
As an academic, does he feel there is a path to counteract the infiltrated academia? It's almost 100 years of poisoning.
My kids are 3 and 5 years away from college, I figure we'll save the money and avoid the indoctrination. Kill 2 birds by avoiding the whole scene.
It says something about the state of academia when over the top, cringy papers that were obviously meant as hoaxes are accepted and published.
You have become the channel I always turn to first for fascinating stuff, I remember when these guys became 'famous' I love to hear these stories of exposing the left, thank you!
Lindsey is a very smart human being..Good for him and America..We need people like him and your interview
you are the MAN Jan....great interviews, great work....TRUTH IN THESE EPOCH TIMES
Loved this interview. Thank you, James for breaking this down for the layperson.
I just recently discovered the New Discourses website. It’s an outstanding resource.
Compelled speech. Fascinating stuff.
I recall reading something a while back written by a North Korean. They were recalling a time just after one of the Kims died (the first one?)
But they were describing compelled tears. The torrential weeping of fellow citizens in a large crowd, while being watched by watchers whose job it was to make sure the emotional outburst was the genuine article.
Stop a moment. And imagine weeping for your very life. Imagine that the weeping had to consist of torrents of tears shed for a dead tyrant whom you might well have considered to have wrecked the lives of yourself, your family, your extended kin and god knows who else....but the trick was not only to shed great quantities of sobbing, soppy tears, but to make sure that it was obvious (to the watchers) that you were doing all that weeping not for yourself (or anyone else you actually really cared about) but for the object of THAT misery.
Now, that's compulsion. At its corrupt finest.
That P-20 thing that was mentioned. Twenty years of forced incarceration (formerly known as an education.) My formal education turned me critical. One other thing it did for me was give me 50 adult years' worth of possession of an insatiable curiosity that matches that of a precocious 5 year-old. Critical mass was a thing much studied during the Manhattan Project. Critical masses, on the other hand, are a thing vital to the psychological health of the nation.
And by "critical" I mean suspicious of the professional blame game, the infantilization of adults, and especially pseudo-intellectual bullshit.
The bit about functioning society. When I was much younger and more compulsive, I researched Mao's Cultural Revolution. A decade of complete chaos and mayhem. "Correctness" that listened in at every keyhole. Accompanied every footstep. Blanketed existence from dawn to dusk, and even dreams were not free. That's what is waiting at the end of this yellow brick road.
This is a great interview. A lot to unpack here. Worth a few listenings.
Great response.
Great interview.
The dilution of truth is the start of every lie
BECAUSE THEY HAVE OUR CHILDREN!!!!!!!
My experience with a graduate level nursing course re: theoretical foundations of nursing: some of the ideas simply did not help (in fact made things so confusing that it nearly negated 10 years of experience) or were so convoluted that only the authors could possibly understand, although many claimed to. Kind of like going to a movie with my friends during my undergrad days and being the only one willing to say that I hated it. It kind of works to indoctrinate those with less life experience, but those who have learned to work a real job were less likely to buy the steaming pile of male bovine feces.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
James Lindsay, great to have you here on American thought leaders. *soft knuckle touch* well ok!
FACINATING articulations Mr Lindsay! Thankful for Jan’s gentle dialogue too, ATL 🦋#BlessedBeThee🦋
Biology is God’s creation. NOT man’s! Sharing for a friend!
Dominate Racism WOW
Critical social justice mindset! “permanent divisiveness “. Scary thought!
Violence of categorization causes cognitive dissonance in the insecure individual trying to be something they are not and never will be.
File lawsuits for student mistreatment and misleadings!
Great interview. I read the dog paper on my college's library site (sadly feminism is on the library site) and I lost it laughing
Sad
@Jeannie Seibert ik. I was like omg this is great
Alexander Kelly sick
@Maggie Lou it's been taken down. You can only read some of the abstract but not very visible. I looked up dog park paper james lindsay
This is a superb historical review and synthesis of post modernist philosophy and identify politics.
Pol Pot, educated in the French school was the most recent example of where this philosophy will lead.
Post-modernism is the greatest threat western culture now faces because it destroys the cohesive fabric of our western traditions from within and will result in disorder and chaos .
The gulag or the grave is the destination for any who will not exhibit ‘right-think’ if this destructive philosophy ever gains the reigns of political and military power.
Thank-you for sunshine 🌞 to expose and cleanse this philosophical virus.
Enjoyed this interview, Bottom line all those social justice clubs support Bad Behavior, sedition, lawlessness. I support propertarianism which would enforce reciprocity in society and a court of law. It would stop the bad behavior.
Thank you so much! These are the answers I needed, for a while it seemed like the world has gone insane! On to purchase James’s book
As always, great interview!
Fascinating interview. Thanks for sharing!
If there is a moderate left then point it out to me cause I'm not seeing it
Well James Lindsay is on the left, so there's that
@@tmaris touche
@Jeannie Seibert tim is progressive. Dave rubin is a libertarian. Maybe dershowitz. There's like maybe 10 left
"I'm not seeing it"
You're Nazi-ing it? LITERALLY A NAZI!
See, I can think like a leftist.
@Jeannie Seibert tim was never a moderate. He was a communist though. So was peterson.
8:33 why would you hope that people do activism if the studies indicate the problem doesn't exist? As you said, the methodology is backward.
Lololololol
Brilliant discussion
Sad that discussions like this are not had in our mainstream news media. Imagine if we had THIS instead of 60 Minutes or the typical news of Rachel Maddow and Bill OReilly
Do people do Rorschach tests anymore? These days, identity politics seems like a huge Rorschach test.
Wow. Even more clear than Stephen Hick's book! 😎
And this guy is on the left. He's a breath of fresh air.
1:08:00 explains why this is so enticing to feminists.
Critical Consciousness this is designed to dismantle our society and encourages extensive protests therefore, disrupting the status quo. James seems to enjoy this. Social depravity
SoulStrike! 😅wWOW!
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This is very insightful.
Lyndsay & his cohorts did nothing to undermine scholarship. What they did was a service to scholarship rather like that done by Galileo but with more comedy. "Your theory isn't right. It isn't even wrong!" ~ Wolfgang Paoli, "The great enlightenment will be followed by the great endarkenment." ~ Biff Rose
PEOPLE IF THEY APPLY THEIR UNDERSTANDING , AND OPEN THEIR MIND ,THERE WILL BE NO PROBLEM.
"Grievance Studies" - that sounds like the entire curriculum at Evergreen State College near Olympia, Washington...
Spellbound. Sorcery.
Great thought!👍👍👍
Excellent
ATL is excellent- i hope the return of common sense grows exponentially over the coming years; if it doesnt, free western culture will not survive.
Helen Pluckrose articulates this issue better than anyone, from a scholarly viewpoint, making it accessible to a lay person.
EDIT: James Lindsay acquits himself, magnificently, in this interview.
His interview on Sovereign Nations was my favorite. He was extremely clear and articulate that day.
Thanks to both of you. Excellent discussion - good red-pill material for Liberals.
Should not be censored the political right
Welcome to the Matrix
Something Jordan Peterson said about intersectional feminism, and such, has stuck with me for a long time. He said the reason the SJW activists "show up to everything" is that when students go through the "social justice curriculum" on university campuses, that's what they're taught to do. It's an integral part of their curriculum. Students are informed by these professors, and the literature they read about the importance of these administrative positions, and what power they have. They're basically told, "This is how you exercise power. This is how you change the world. You show up at these things, and you press your case." Of course, they're taught other stuff, as well, like how to come across authoritative, and various tactics that can be used to either ingratiate the people you want, or make those you can't convert into pariahs, how to use the media to their advantage, and whatnot.
I'd say the reason the other side of this isn't "showing up to everything" is they go into stuff that doesn't teach them a thing about these administrative positions, or their importance, and it's probably because it's not seen as productive. It's not that interesting. Maybe retired people sometimes try to go into this stuff, feeling like it's a way to give back, part of their civic duty, but it's not something that they as a class of people do routinely. It's not something they've been taught about. They probably have to go through the effort to learn about what it is, and how to get into it. That's a much less organized way of going about it. What you can say about the intersectional Left is they're organized, and they've been laser focused on gaining these positions, and exercising power through them. I've sometimes thought that if other factions in our society want to have a say in how that power is exercised, they need a similar level of knowledge dissemination, and organization that supports their causes, but the key thing is they need cultural institutions that do that in a way that a large number of their faction respects. It needs to be seen as an aspect of the world in which they accomplish their goals, which is exactly what the postmodern Left has done.
God will certainly destroy this depraved deeply filthy amoral society/world S revived 🐍😈
@59:00 What if the Right had correctly predicted this crap, all the way back to the 90s. George Carlin was also complaining about it in the early 2000s. Was he a right-winger?
It took over the humanities while 'progressive' and neo-lib academics sat back for decades and did fuck-all about it.
54:56
March 2020: "This Critical Social Justice mindset *has* really grown -- I don't want to say *is* growing ... I don't think it's ascendant anymore."
June 2020: "Hold my beer."
This is really excellent, but the "truth of the past" is in the context of the past, not in the present looking back in the rear-view mirror.
There is and has been very little scholarship in a long time!
Undermine scholarship. Black Feminists Criminology?. Horrifying cesspool bullshit so called humanities very disturbing just plain sick beyond evil
Nature rewards the natural.
What we truly need to institutionalize is the use of reason itself. We already have a good, working, rational, and comprehensive model of reasoning, and how to improve it over time. The critical thinking model of Dr. Richard Paul and Linda Elder. Why isn't this made the core of our educational system?
I was in my private home, today, and i know that my son and certain people who are interested in a Protestant Christian perspective on “spiritual warfare” discussed in the Bible, need some proper understanding of what the Bible teaches to a Christian who belongs to a church body, in the Bible, taught by Paul the Apostle to his local worshippers of Christ, and which was NOT TAUGHT TO THE AMERICAN PROTESTANTS by those who are and were supposed to teach TRUTH in order to grow into maturity and the ability to understand how to see a lie from the truth….which most Christians do NOT UNDERSTAND IS PREVALENT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE EARTH, AND ALL OF CIVILIZATION. IT APPEARS IN nature, it appears in Law, it appears in the universe, it appears in physical laws like gravity, and the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, it appears in your garden, it appears in Chemistry, and science everywhere, but it is like “pulling teeth” to get CHURCHY PEOPLE to understand that they do not have a “corner on the market” on “Common Grace” TRUTH. They, and other particular biased groups who protect THEIR AUTHORITY, and want to be a “TOP DOG” in culture, do all they can to narrow the understanding of what TRUTH IS. I am so sick of this “biasing” of everything, and the constant conflict that people bring, because they won’t allow people to have their own lives without the constant scrutiny of doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, anthropologists, socialist, philosophers and people who feel that they must have the last word on everything because they are the EXPERTS. Our culture, under the Constitution “in its original intent” was MEANT TO WORK IF IT HAD LAWS THAT WERE AGREED TO AND VOLUNTARILY SELF-GOVERNANCE , or the voluntary “choice” to control one’s own emotions, and actions, by everyone in the culture influenced by those who believed that THIS was the best way to respect, love and care for, and live in community with others….thus the beliefs of Christ, in
the Bible. Humanity is a group. That is not my responsibility. That is God’s.James you do not see the good in this and you are seeing it from a very “impure” view, which causes you not to have the faith that one needs to LIVE in community, with each person having their personal responsibility. I keep trying to help you see that your view is so limited, and you are not allowing freedom to happen with personal choice of self control, only in situations that are able to happen that way. Policeman do need to be available in a community where people DON’T want to get along together, but you always TWIST everything i say. I only know me, but i do understand the Bible, and i don’t think you do. WHO died and made you GOD?? No wonder you are attacked. Nothing anyone says would appeal to you.
At around 16:00 Lindsay gives a very good condensation of how (and why) 'critical theory' is pushed.
Pre-cencorship seems to describe what has been happening on this, and other platforms, where content creators are removed and deleted, thereby removing the ability for individuals to see any information which disagrees with SJ, Wokedness and so on.
"I'm black." "I'm a person who happens to be black."
If you can't tell why some people say "I'm black", bless your heart.
James! Answer if you can. Is "White Power" good for all color of people or only for one color?
Narratives are the expression of ideologies. They start with predicates which aren't tested or come to be viewed as self-evidently valid such that a demand for testing is viewed as fanciful at best and a denial of truth (as in "climate denial") and thus prejudicial/threatening/destructive, at worst.
"Language is kind of like a spell." Kind of? Why do you think we call knowing how to write a word right "spelling"?
The Sokol hoaxes these three carried out are not political at all. What they have to do with is showing that gender studies is primarily political, and non-academic. They proved exactly that. They are all three political liberalists, perhaps even leftists, while I am a Christian scholar, classical liberal who am not leftist, and I agree exactly with them in the necessity of real scholarship. I also agree with them in their analysis of post-modern thought.
Excellent interview. I would have liked to hear about Gramsci and Fanon's contribution and the impact of anti colonial Marxism on current ethnocentric marxist groups in the US.
Just do what Moses did. He drew a line in the sand.
Soul strikes effect only the insecure
11:17 That hit hard.
In Group status they get to decide who is at the top and that is what fight is over and where it begins. It inevitably become a fight against God and Religion vs Humanism and Atheistic Naturalism.
Problem is, they have a different definition of justice. One man's meat is another man's poison.
It's basically hard equality, as in communism.
Critical social justice the victim mentality or self pity indulgences
Tbis would be high value in a denser topical form.
I love how this interview is formal (as it should be considering the subject matter) but I love how Lindsay is wearing adidas 😂 I won’t lie it just proves his background in mathematics cause so many top level prof. I’ve had in these fields care about the work n not what brand of shoe to wear n as a result they all end up dressing in suits, but w/ comfy ass shoes.
So true. Education is the key from kids all the way through. God created the world, we just live in it. Not like the system of the country, go to the country where there is the system. If America system is bad, why millions online to get in America? Including black.
I wonder if the 2 people so far who have voted thumbs down even bothered to listen this interview for more than a minute or two. Sad.
Foucault is really influential here from the nihilist pov. He referred to himself as a Nietzschean. What did he mean by that? That he believed in the ubermensch? No.That he had contempt for rationalism and empiricism and only believed in humans as irrational and that their highest faculty is intuition. The problem is the dogmatic approach here. Humans are irrational to a degree and our intuition may indeed be our most valuable faculty, however, there is plenty of room for theoretical and empirical methods when attempting to get to the most objective facts of certain phenomena. The scientific method is not "Western" it is employed all over the world BECAUSE IT WORKS. Can scientists be biased? Sure, but the level of bias coming out of science - which relies on falsification and other proofs from peers - is FAR MORE RELIABLE than the kind of SUBJECTIVE ANECDOTAL foundation of CRT.
But in the arts, music, for example. Nietzsche probably loved music more than anything and was an amateur musician without an abundance of talent (he loved Wagner). Could Wagner have written his works completely from intuition? No. However, the intuitive instinct is essential for creativity in the first place. But he also relied on the "mathematics" innate in music and a theoretical understanding of music. It's the nihilism that is the problem, as if to say that if the perfect is not possible why settle for what is merely the best option? This attitude permeates the left. And it is sickening. Destructive. Will lead to nowhere good. Certainly NOT perfection of society. There is no such possibility.
James is wearing a suit but look at his feet. He's wearing some ugly big old gym shoes let's you know he's against normal dress attire 🤷♀️. He's the Devils 😈advocate
Turn the damn volume up! What's the problem.
Why have governments pandered to them?
NeuroLinguistic Programming
So rather than holding original thoughts about who they themselves are, they flutter from place to place with their deck of Muh Oppresion cards playing War with each other. Sounds like a pretty sad existence. Great interview!
Men are from Mars...
Humans are communal by nature. Some communities celebrate individuality, some are very tribal.
But there is civility. What is missing is people just being civil toward each other. Having nothing in common and just moving along. Not every moment in life is a challenge.
I believe there can be a lack of civility, by any communal group. Some, inherently more than others. The math doesn't lie. Numbers are stubborn that way.
1 once God was centraal
2 entlighment male reason
3 female feeling equality
4 sociale justice kids
Whats next?
Sorcery.
True liberalism doesn't demand nothing of the individual.
Just a friendly FYI...doesn't demand "anything" of the individual.
BTW. Life demands...death doesn't!
If it doesn't pick pick my pocket, pierce my skin
Wow! 1500 views in only 4 minutes ago upload
Identify politics cultural politics false consciousness classical liberalism a broader philosophy Group identity James is a racists hidden behind his big words. These narratives are the projectors they spring from 😱
This guy is very interesting