I have used the waypoints to help get me home when lost on a run but it’s not going to be nearly as helpful as your Garmin Fenix 6 maps. Let me know what you end up with and how you like it Sara! 👌
Completely agree, there really is not enough differentiation that can't just easily be accomplished with the OS update on a 7. I have been feeling the exact same. Awesome video transitions and video work as well. Music & background sound blends continue to get better as well. Such good work
Thanks buddy. I'm finally getting the Ultra so we'll see how that one holds up over the next few weeks. Hope all is well with you guys and you haven't had too much rain after the hurricane remnants.
@@mlegrand that's so funny, my ultra is minutes away from arrival as well! Ha ha. I just hate the form factor on the regular Apple Watch so much I'm honestly really excited to have a different design and think it may be a winner.
I currently use a Garmin Swim 2 for my swimming, and other, workout tracking. I appreciate your video here and I think it's time to make the switch soon - the increased pool accuracy (especially with kickboard sets) is huge. I also really like the concept of being able to have the Alltrails app up for tracking my hikes - which is something I would use a lot. Great video!
Hi Big C, I think there is a lot you’ll like about the AW Series 8. But I don’t think it’s more accurate in the pool than the Garmin Swim 2. Maybe similar 🤷🏻♂️ Let me know what you think if you pick one up. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Agree with you. I love my AW6, the new features are fine for 1st time buyers or temperature for woman's needs, but not enough for me to fork out more $. I might consider it if the temperature were accurate for fever detection.
You and I are a lot alike. I use a variety of different watches. I think you'd be slightly disappointed in something on the AW and happy with others. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
That's kind of what I recommend at the end. 70-75% of AW buyers are new to the platform. This isn't a huge update compared to the 7 but it's a great option for someone who is new or has a Series 5 or below. Keep me posted on how you like it Aaron! Thanks for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I just bought my series 7 on Saturday and had it delivered on Wednesday, got myn in the red in 45mm and I saved a crap load of money by going with the series 7 over the 8 , if you can get a series 7 get it , it’s almost the same as the 8
Nice work Trev! I'm surprised you're able to get a great deal on the Series 7 at this point. I think a lot of people looked at the Series 8 specs and looked to get a deal on the S7. Nice work 👏🏻 People need to move quick because I'm guessing there won't be many 7s to pick up here shortly. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
As much as I want to say Apple Watch Ultra checks all the boxes for me, it still falls short for me. As much much as I want to go all in using apps on it, it still gets bogged down with long load times-indicative of the 3 year old 7nm SIP which they now call the S8. Cellular is still LTE, which is slow to gather data. Other smartwatches are much faster in CPU and cellular. Not much of an excuse for a device which costs $800 and $100 more for AppleCare+.
Good feedback for people o hear Iggy! It does seem odd that there's not faster cellular connectivity at this price point. My guess is that they'll release a very modest update for the version 2 with some of these suggestions. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Nice! It’s a nice watch. You’ll have to come back here and let me know what you think! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Oh dude, sorry the Fenix 6 isn't still getting any love. But yeah, the AW7 is solid and I like the new software updates of WOS9. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great intro, detailing, rationale behind returning it, music, transitions etc- AS ALWAYS :). (I check your channel everyday to see if #AppleWatchUltra review has dropped yet. Waiting :)
Probably at least two weeks unless I just make some sort of unboxing video. It takes me a while to test these watches. Thanks so much for watching Pavan! Super kind of you and I really appreciate the nice words and support!
Great review as always. I have the Apple Watch 3 and it's great, but the battery isn't the best. I'm not a fan of the Garmin, but have it cuz of battery life. Look like I could update to a 6, 7 or even 8.
As a Space Black Titanium S7 owner, I am also skipping this year. Still not sure the Ultra isn’t too massive for my 165mm wrists, but it does look super cool! Might jump on a version 2 next year and hope for a black version 🤘🏼
I think that sounds like a smart idea. My wrists are the same size. I’ll have a lot of footage of the ultra my wrist in the full review. A black version would be amazing. 🙌
It's probably not one I'd recommend for you at this point. I wonder if Wahoo will update that Rival at some point. A V2 might be a very interesting option. I'm always available to talk watches. 👍🏻
Good vid man, I am amazed at how small the update was between the 7 and 8, but tis the year of the ultra I suppose lol. I’m the family go to regarding tech update questions, and I definitely will not be recommending anyone make the switch unless on an older watch. Btw I don’t know how you use the AW swimming. I tried, *TRIED* so hard to make the AW work for my tri training alongside my edge but man the swimming experience is so much worse compared to the Garmin.
Garmin is my preferred swimming brand. I like the drill mode for kick sets and drills. Touch screens are not ideal. But I try a lot of watches and watchOS 9 is an improvement on the swimming front. 🤷🏻♂️
I’m hoping watchOS9 apps that can use always-on display with SwiftUI come to save the swimming experience. So obvious Apple puts most of its attention with workout tracking into running and little else :( - for open water and tri events at least there is some native multisport functionality now
@@mlegrand no I agree it’s better but still unusable unless I’m missing something. Like my coach often prescribes sets as, for example, 4x 100 descending on 1:40. On my garmin when I complete the 100, I’ll quickly see okay I did that at 1:30, I have 10 seconds rest, and I can start my next 100, etc. Then when I was doing 1k sets, it was extremely my confusing for me because it would show like 976m, like it never seems to snap to the length of the pool like garmin does I’m during the workout, yet when I would review the workout in the app after it would say 1k. So idk, maybe I’m using it wrong lol.
I Still see no reason to go with an Apple watch over any Garmin, or even over a Polar, Wahoo, or Coros. That could just be my anti-Apple bias talking, though. 🙂
Anti Apple bias is understandable. 😆 But they do have some nice tight integration with the phone and some interesting sports features. For example, that auto transition split works well in triathlon. 🤷🏻♂️
@@mlegrand fair point. It raises a valid question, then: Does the AW8 auto-transition work better than the Wahoo's? It also makes me wonder when Garmin is going to have that feature; I'm always forgetting to hit the button to transition my 920XT. lol
@@TheCelticClydesdaleShow - I don't know which auto transition is better. My friend over at SmartBikeTrainers said the Apple is a bit better but it's easier to adjust times on the Wahoo afterwards if needed. 🤷♂
@@mlegrand noooo. Oh give me a break. I actually think it was a perfectly titled title! Because you are so right, there really is not enough differentiation that can just easily be accomplished with the OS update. I have been feeling the exact same. Posting this as its own comment so that you have positive flow as well
I think so. I think that's the perfect update cycle depending on your budget. And I'm sure there will be good holiday shopping deals here in another month. Thanks for watching this one Fahad!
Coming from AW4 (without power data in WatchOS 9) is making think I should upgrade. However I’m still contemplating going with a FR 955 / Epix or AW Ultra. I’m long course triathlete. Any suggestion or thought from others?
This is going to sound crazy but you’d love the 955 for tri but I think you’ll miss the AW for everything else. Tough call. The Ultra should be able to handle a full Ironman you’d just want to check to see if you like the size of it.
When I was editing this, I was worried because it really seems like I have no idea what ovulation cycles are or I don't understand why it won't pick mine up. 😆 Someone is going to be lay into me in the comments. 💯
I THOUGHT YOU LOVED THE WATCH!? Oh...I'm listening. The watch sequence is incredible (45-100 time frame) I reckon I could fool the apple watch doing different strokes Oh I knew midnight black was an 8 exclusive (that's a gross lie) How do you do the infographics? They're incredible. Oh the watch drop into the air to wrist is super cool!! What is a "TRIMM ONE"!??? So curious. Wrist based HR has made so much ground in the past few years! Talk to me about battery life!!!
Well, battery life isn't going to cut it for you. It's a charge every day kind of watch. I think you're really going to be enjoying that Garmin Instinct 2 Solar. It's rugged and goes forever. 🙌
@@mlegrand I'm loving it so far. I know I probably could have done this on my old Instinct, but I have set up the "commute" workout to just track heart rate and it has almost no impact on the battery. Most of my rides aren't GPS important, just trying to track hours/HR and this thing is KILLING IT. Can't wait for the week to expire so I can start to see training load data. Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig fan.
Main reason : all the data collected by the AW is useless. No training status, no stress notification, body battery missing... its just a toy with circles to close... but wait, you can pick up phone calls !!!
I wouldn't say all the data is useless. Running power is a metric that I find valuable. The phone calls thing annoys the hell out of me. Other watches could do it if Apple didn't block other brands from doing it. Not cool Apple. 🤦♂️
@@mlegrand I plan to buy a 955 Solar instead. See, my dog suffers from cancer. Today he made 2 epileptic seizures : my Forerunner 245 gives me a detailed curve hour by hour of my high stress level and my body battery draining like hell . the AW would now send me a notification to move my ass!!!
Disagree. My Apple Watch Series 5 is used as a bike computer since it connects to my favero Assioma power meter pedals and the polar h10 chest strap. At the end I am getting all the data I want back to Strava like any other garmin/wahoo bike computer. Garmin training status, stress are so inconsistent and rubbish. I say that because all my cyclists friends use garmin and they never follow all these rubbish algorithms. At least apple provides real time data and not caclculates ones.
@@WDib007 - Great point Nicolas. WIth a third party app you can display power. One of the biggest items I want within a cycling computer (or watch if that's what you use) is my radar data. I want to be warned of upcoming traffic. Almost all of my cycling buddies who have Apple Watches use it in conjunction with a cycling computer. I don't think AW data is useless but I also don't think it's the ideal device for cycling. Just my $0.02.
@@WDib007 Still, Im impressed how Garmin detects stress du ring the day. And I assure you it is accurate. It even takes my health issues in account : I'm not a runner nor a cyclist , However, my Forerunner knows exactly when I exercised enough. Apple does not. It leaves you "alone" ... If Garmin's status are not accurate, why do all the runners wear that brand instead of AWs ?
Best place to buy Series 8: amzn.to/3SxEd1Q
1:50 I'm sold!! And I have the Garmin Fenix 6 pro too and I'm having such trouble with it. Thanks for a great review
I have used the waypoints to help get me home when lost on a run but it’s not going to be nearly as helpful as your Garmin Fenix 6 maps. Let me know what you end up with and how you like it Sara! 👌
Completely agree, there really is not enough differentiation that can't just easily be accomplished with the OS update on a 7. I have been feeling the exact same. Awesome video transitions and video work as well. Music & background sound blends continue to get better as well. Such good work
Thanks buddy. I'm finally getting the Ultra so we'll see how that one holds up over the next few weeks. Hope all is well with you guys and you haven't had too much rain after the hurricane remnants.
@@mlegrand that's so funny, my ultra is minutes away from arrival as well! Ha ha. I just hate the form factor on the regular Apple Watch so much I'm honestly really excited to have a different design and think it may be a winner.
I currently use a Garmin Swim 2 for my swimming, and other, workout tracking. I appreciate your video here and I think it's time to make the switch soon - the increased pool accuracy (especially with kickboard sets) is huge. I also really like the concept of being able to have the Alltrails app up for tracking my hikes - which is something I would use a lot.
Great video!
Hi Big C, I think there is a lot you’ll like about the AW Series 8. But I don’t think it’s more accurate in the pool than the Garmin Swim 2. Maybe similar 🤷🏻♂️
Let me know what you think if you pick one up. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Agree with you. I love my AW6, the new features are fine for 1st time buyers or temperature for woman's needs, but not enough for me to fork out more $. I might consider it if the temperature were accurate for fever detection.
Yeah, I think I’d roll with the 6 for a little while longer. Maybe see what the update looks like next year. 🤷🏻♂️
Thank you very much for this video. I’m a Garmin user but interesting to know information about the last AW 😊 Thanks
You and I are a lot alike. I use a variety of different watches. I think you'd be slightly disappointed in something on the AW and happy with others. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I'm a new apple watch owner so I got the series 8 and love it so far.
That's kind of what I recommend at the end. 70-75% of AW buyers are new to the platform. This isn't a huge update compared to the 7 but it's a great option for someone who is new or has a Series 5 or below. Keep me posted on how you like it Aaron! Thanks for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I just bought my series 7 on Saturday and had it delivered on Wednesday, got myn in the red in 45mm and I saved a crap load of money by going with the series 7 over the 8 , if you can get a series 7 get it , it’s almost the same as the 8
Nice work Trev! I'm surprised you're able to get a great deal on the Series 7 at this point. I think a lot of people looked at the Series 8 specs and looked to get a deal on the S7. Nice work 👏🏻 People need to move quick because I'm guessing there won't be many 7s to pick up here shortly. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
As much as I want to say Apple Watch Ultra checks all the boxes for me, it still falls short for me. As much much as I want to go all in using apps on it, it still gets bogged down with long load times-indicative of the 3 year old 7nm SIP which they now call the S8. Cellular is still LTE, which is slow to gather data. Other smartwatches are much faster in CPU and cellular. Not much of an excuse for a device which costs $800 and $100 more for AppleCare+.
Good feedback for people o hear Iggy! It does seem odd that there's not faster cellular connectivity at this price point. My guess is that they'll release a very modest update for the version 2 with some of these suggestions. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
am getting my first apple watch and ordered the series 8 in 45mm :)
Nice! It’s a nice watch. You’ll have to come back here and let me know what you think! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Fully agree with your thoughts! I’m satisfied with AW7 and the software updates keeps me on AW(my Fenix 6 pro is biting the dust in drawer lol)
Oh dude, sorry the Fenix 6 isn't still getting any love. But yeah, the AW7 is solid and I like the new software updates of WOS9. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great intro, detailing, rationale behind returning it, music, transitions etc- AS ALWAYS :).
(I check your channel everyday to see if #AppleWatchUltra review has dropped yet. Waiting :)
Probably at least two weeks unless I just make some sort of unboxing video. It takes me a while to test these watches. Thanks so much for watching Pavan! Super kind of you and I really appreciate the nice words and support!
Great video Matt. Hoping you can do a full review of the pixel watch for swim bike and run soon too!
I would love to review that one! I wonder if it has a triathlon mode. 🤔
@@mlegrand I'd be very surprised for first generation! I'd settle for accurate heart rate and GPS tracking 🤣
Great review as always. I have the Apple Watch 3 and it's great, but the battery isn't the best. I'm not a fan of the Garmin, but have it cuz of battery life. Look like I could update to a 6, 7 or even 8.
Yeah, I think you'd like the Series 8. Hope you and your family are well!!!
No ant plus is why I am avoiding this. But swimming kick sets is awesome and running power
Yeah, there's some nice stuff but I think you're a Garmin guy.
@@mlegrand yes and my twin sister is a polar girl
As a Space Black Titanium S7 owner, I am also skipping this year. Still not sure the Ultra isn’t too massive for my 165mm wrists, but it does look super cool! Might jump on a version 2 next year and hope for a black version 🤘🏼
I think that sounds like a smart idea. My wrists are the same size. I’ll have a lot of footage of the ultra my wrist in the full review. A black version would be amazing. 🙌
@@mlegrand Looking forward to the review 🤘🏼
Good title! Hope this vid gains traction 🤩
Ha!!! Thank you 🙏
I'm taking a hard look at the Wahoo Rival. Worth it in 2023? (yes, I'm planning for next season)
It's probably not one I'd recommend for you at this point. I wonder if Wahoo will update that Rival at some point. A V2 might be a very interesting option. I'm always available to talk watches. 👍🏻
Good vid man, I am amazed at how small the update was between the 7 and 8, but tis the year of the ultra I suppose lol. I’m the family go to regarding tech update questions, and I definitely will not be recommending anyone make the switch unless on an older watch. Btw I don’t know how you use the AW swimming. I tried, *TRIED* so hard to make the AW work for my tri training alongside my edge but man the swimming experience is so much worse compared to the Garmin.
Garmin is my preferred swimming brand. I like the drill mode for kick sets and drills. Touch screens are not ideal. But I try a lot of watches and watchOS 9 is an improvement on the swimming front. 🤷🏻♂️
I’m hoping watchOS9 apps that can use always-on display with SwiftUI come to save the swimming experience. So obvious Apple puts most of its attention with workout tracking into running and little else :( - for open water and tri events at least there is some native multisport functionality now
@@mlegrand no I agree it’s better but still unusable unless I’m missing something. Like my coach often prescribes sets as, for example, 4x 100 descending on 1:40. On my garmin when I complete the 100, I’ll quickly see okay I did that at 1:30, I have 10 seconds rest, and I can start my next 100, etc. Then when I was doing 1k sets, it was extremely my confusing for me because it would show like 976m, like it never seems to snap to the length of the pool like garmin does I’m during the workout, yet when I would review the workout in the app after it would say 1k. So idk, maybe I’m using it wrong lol.
I Still see no reason to go with an Apple watch over any Garmin, or even over a Polar, Wahoo, or Coros.
That could just be my anti-Apple bias talking, though. 🙂
Anti Apple bias is understandable. 😆 But they do have some nice tight integration with the phone and some interesting sports features. For example, that auto transition split works well in triathlon. 🤷🏻♂️
@@mlegrand fair point. It raises a valid question, then: Does the AW8 auto-transition work better than the Wahoo's?
It also makes me wonder when Garmin is going to have that feature; I'm always forgetting to hit the button to transition my 920XT. lol
@@TheCelticClydesdaleShow - I don't know which auto transition is better. My friend over at SmartBikeTrainers said the Apple is a bit better but it's easier to adjust times on the Wahoo afterwards if needed. 🤷♂
The title alone!
The level of title hate I get is pretty high here. 😬
@@mlegrand noooo. Oh give me a break. I actually think it was a perfectly titled title! Because you are so right, there really is not enough differentiation that can just easily be accomplished with the OS update. I have been feeling the exact same. Posting this as its own comment so that you have positive flow as well
I have Apple Watch five so what do you think I should change five and take the new one I mean Apple Watch eight?
I think so. I think that's the perfect update cycle depending on your budget. And I'm sure there will be good holiday shopping deals here in another month. Thanks for watching this one Fahad!
Coming from AW4 (without power data in WatchOS 9) is making think I should upgrade. However I’m still contemplating going with a FR 955 / Epix or AW Ultra. I’m long course triathlete. Any suggestion or thought from others?
This is going to sound crazy but you’d love the 955 for tri but I think you’ll miss the AW for everything else. Tough call. The Ultra should be able to handle a full Ironman you’d just want to check to see if you like the size of it.
@@mlegrand thanks. It sounds like I should get both a 955 and maybe AW8 (or keep my AW4). 😉
Double comment for ovulation jokes 😂🤣😂🤣
When I was editing this, I was worried because it really seems like I have no idea what ovulation cycles are or I don't understand why it won't pick mine up. 😆 Someone is going to be lay into me in the comments. 💯
I THOUGHT YOU LOVED THE WATCH!?
Oh...I'm listening.
The watch sequence is incredible (45-100 time frame)
I reckon I could fool the apple watch doing different strokes
Oh I knew midnight black was an 8 exclusive (that's a gross lie)
How do you do the infographics? They're incredible.
Oh the watch drop into the air to wrist is super cool!!
What is a "TRIMM ONE"!??? So curious.
Wrist based HR has made so much ground in the past few years!
Talk to me about battery life!!!
Well, battery life isn't going to cut it for you. It's a charge every day kind of watch. I think you're really going to be enjoying that Garmin Instinct 2 Solar. It's rugged and goes forever. 🙌
@@mlegrand I'm loving it so far.
I know I probably could have done this on my old Instinct, but I have set up the "commute" workout to just track heart rate and it has almost no impact on the battery. Most of my rides aren't GPS important, just trying to track hours/HR and this thing is KILLING IT.
Can't wait for the week to expire so I can start to see training load data. Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig fan.
Main reason : all the data collected by the AW is useless. No training status, no stress notification, body battery missing... its just a toy with circles to close... but wait, you can pick up phone calls !!!
I wouldn't say all the data is useless. Running power is a metric that I find valuable. The phone calls thing annoys the hell out of me. Other watches could do it if Apple didn't block other brands from doing it. Not cool Apple. 🤦♂️
@@mlegrand I plan to buy a 955 Solar instead.
See, my dog suffers from cancer. Today he made 2 epileptic seizures : my Forerunner 245 gives me a detailed curve hour by hour of my high stress level and my body battery draining like hell . the AW would now send me a notification to move my ass!!!
Disagree. My Apple Watch Series 5 is used as a bike computer since it connects to my favero Assioma power meter pedals and the polar h10 chest strap. At the end I am getting all the data I want back to Strava like any other garmin/wahoo bike computer.
Garmin training status, stress are so inconsistent and rubbish. I say that because all my cyclists friends use garmin and they never follow all these rubbish algorithms. At least apple provides real time data and not caclculates ones.
@@WDib007 - Great point Nicolas. WIth a third party app you can display power. One of the biggest items I want within a cycling computer (or watch if that's what you use) is my radar data. I want to be warned of upcoming traffic. Almost all of my cycling buddies who have Apple Watches use it in conjunction with a cycling computer. I don't think AW data is useless but I also don't think it's the ideal device for cycling. Just my $0.02.
@@WDib007 Still, Im impressed how Garmin detects stress du ring the day. And I assure you it is accurate. It even takes my health issues in account : I'm not a runner nor a cyclist , However, my Forerunner knows exactly when I exercised enough. Apple does not. It leaves you "alone" ...
If Garmin's status are not accurate, why do all the runners wear that brand instead of AWs ?
Attention addict
So true. But this title is also true. I returned the series 8. 🤷🏻♂️