I really love when someone talking like this about Wendy's sexuality. I mean it's so obvious and you can feel her sincerity everytime she opens her mouth and talk about what she likes. Just like for example when she said she wants to share an umbrella with her future bf/gf. And the way she wants her fans to say "prince" and/or "handsome" more than to princess and/or pretty, she even correct her fans sometimes. Before I really thought she's just love to tease and flirt with her members, but when she became a radio dj, you can see she's literally blushing to every single female guests while it's obvious she's awkward and just wants to move on when male guest do something to make her flutter
I really have to recommend “Color of Love” one of the bsides that Red Velvet released in their Japanese Album, the lyrics are so supportive and i really felt i was being accepted when they sang about “Love is in all kind color and there is nothing to feel afraid of” I was so touched by reading the translation of the lyrics and couldn’t stop listening to it since then…
I love how she addresses Red Velvet as her babies. Also, I think Lez Velvet seems like their alter ego so they deemed it so fittingly. Just such a shame that they had to cut her presentation about Joy and Yeri. She was so immersed with pitching Red Velvet to the panel and didn't think time has gone by so much.
Wendy has indeed, as seen in the video, has been super supportive of differences in people and embracing them... She always said that she just loves People in general, regardless of gender or sex :) ... I just think the simple though of including 'Ohh Girl' in the Light Me Up song (which is her favourite RV song btw), so that she felt that the female fans of RV needed to be included too is just such a small but important aspect that explains her beautiful personality
This is so important! As an international queer kpop fan, it's so cool to see we feel the same way even tho we are far away and our culture is different. We all just want to belong, feel represented and live as our authentic self. Love from Brazil 🥰 And hope mamamoo is next, my queens 😊✨
really appreciated the wendy segment! love how sincere she is in her efforts to be inclusive❤ also love that she’s open to non-conforming terms like prince, oppa, etc
the presentation about Wendy is really long enough, because yes, even though she's not directly saying it, you can feel how she's genuine about gender inclusion and equality, I remember on one of her radio ep, she said she imagined herself sharing an umbrella with her boyfriend or girlfriend, you probably missed that since it's not viewable 😅
I think the presentor elected to only show the more direct instances as it would've taken way too long to really show everything especially since the point of the presentation is to show why your faves are popular/should be popular among the queer community so it's a balance of showing instances of them showing support to the LGBTQ community and showing their "queer charm"!
An Orbit, loona fan, would eat this up 😂 there is so many queer connection between orbits and loona's message and herstory. Really liked this episode and the mamamoo one as well, I'm also a big queer fan of them ❤
12:37 I love how she said that fans have mixed feelings about WenRene .....since they doubt whether they're a married couple lol bcoz of how well they interact with each other :)
So lovely to see a queer Reveluv showing Red Velvet's support to the queer community! I love how honest they are and of course Wendy and Yeri are super confident and outspoken which is amazing to see. I really hope we can see a SHINee queer charm presentation because there's so much to explore there!!!!
영업 잘 짜서 잼있게 봤습니다! 개인적으로 레드벨벳 곡들중에 제일 좋아하는 노래는 다시 여름이라는 노래구요. 그 앨범 나왔을 때도 제 탐라에서 해외 팬들이 다시 여름은 레즈 커플송이라고 많이 불렀어요 ㅋㅋㅋ 다음 영업을 많이 기대해요!! 마마무 에스파 에프엑스 샤이니 엔씨티 등등 팬들 나오면 정말 좋겠고 에프엑스 팬으로서 울 함수니 되게 퀴어한 느낌 많이 나서 영업을 보고 싶네요
Little tidbit. I too, would like to hold my significant other, in the rain holding an umbrella to protect us from the weather. I hope in the future, everyone will get to love who they want and show it without repercussions of society’s preconceived perception of who you have to be with and what gender they should be. This is what the video entails. - Free love - Something we still have a lot to understand.
Before RV i never took interest in kpop but now this video makes me think, the gays like me definitely has an instinct to stan celebrity of certain qualities and RV fits in it. I love them very much🥰🩷🩵💛💚💜
I hope Reveluvs call out Seulrene Shippers. They are getting too comfortable insulting and degrading Wendy and fans for interfering with their fantasies.
Literally the opposite. I'm not even a shipper but I've never come across a Sr shipper attack Wendy while wr shippers har@ss Seulgi on a daily. Yall were literally creating new accounts pretending to be a Sr shipper today and dragging your own fave in your CCs🤣
@@rvhp1502 lmao who are those ppl calling Wendy a homewrecker and insulting her every time someone mentions wenrene? 🤣 pretending to be a non shipper just to make your 'observation' valid is hilarious but then that's an expected behaviour from a seulrener so it doesn't surprise me as much 🤣
Let's not act like it's just them. I can bring up plenty of tweets on wr being nasty n wishing harm to Seulgi.. Be so fr... Y'all been comfortable being nasty to Seulgi..
@@ashtray2004 wow seulreners not just making themselves believe their ship is real, they are also trying to convince themselves they're not nasty to wendy 😭
there are certain ppl who would actually throw a fit and make a big deal out of this video especially the Wendy/married part： 1. infamous radical SR shippers aka the main force of "W-haters". 2. Wenluvs who dislike Irene. 3. “Reneluvs” who dislike Wendy. 4. ostensible “ship-phobes” who act like they’re uniquely rational, but most of them are actually 2 or 3, basically akgaes. 5. some essential homophobes.
I’ve been here since the beginning and let me tell you, it’s an irreversible annoying nuisance many have to deal with even years from now. SM is also part of the reason why W gets the brunt end from these delusional shippers. A can of worms I can make a thesis out of. Those can not separate perceived fiction from reality. It’s embarrassing how they bring a sign to their concert and ask about Jeju. Like have some shame for fucks sake
@@rvhp1502 It doesn’t take a neuron to see what type of subfandoms and shippers to know who overrules the RV fandom as a whole. Go outside and get a life pls
@@rvhp1502 Nah. Aka Seulmates/ SR shippers. They are infamous for being delusional and toxic. Like asking about necklaces on LIVE streaming, bringing a sign to their concert and ask about Jeju, treating Irene as just a character for their shipping. Everyone knew SR shippers are disgusting scums and harasses other fandoms just because they think it's a threat to their ship. The other ship literally ship for fun, SR ship for REAL.
In April 2022, a fan also asked, Irene 'Unnie, is there anything you will never give up on no matter how the others oppose it? I have a girlfriend. We've been dating for 3 yrs, she is 3yrs older than me and she treats me well. However, my dad opposes it. But I really want to defend my own happiness.' Irene gave this answer: 'If [name] thinks it's the happiness you want, of course you should go ahead. You should/must be happy, isn't it?' cr. @sinrinaring @irene_global
Comments full of insecure people. Like, just let them support the community through their own way. Also pls don't spread missinformations about them. AND don't assume things that's not even clear. Like your hatred towards some members is so clear that you bring it up through this platform won't help the community at all (if you really support them)
Yea #that subfandom still spreading that jeju trip as jeju lover trip. I'm literally so disgusted that they are even trying to spread that misinformation to sabotage wendy's photoshop support trip. SR fandom really the most toxic fandom ever.
free from shippers and a job cause there's no way she's getting jobs in korea without rv lol gonna spend the rest of her life endorsing random japanese brands
I can't wait for it, so wendy can be finally be free from her, who knows how she treat wendy? What if she receives multiple abuse from her, poor wannie
@@bruni6428 why’re you here lol ? Sorry if my 'happy and comfortable agenda' hurt your pride 🤠. An akgae came out of nowhere and pretended like you has the permission to judge other fans who truly love the girls 🙄
@@linrin9552 so what? This comment really hating Wendy don't get blind. What do you want me to do? To laugh? And support this shit? Use your mind and I'm not hurt for your "happy and comfortable" agenda. What do you think of me? 10 years old? I'm just clearly stating those fans points
I still remember when seulgi was so excited to see same sex streetlights in Austria and recently she said she prefers being recognized by women and mentioned being proud of having a primarily female fanbase countless of times over the years 🥺
saying that i married to w just bc they live in a damn dorm tgt when they just think of eo as FRIENDS/SISTERS is such a VERY VERY WEIRD behavior...... idc but you ppl being overly delusional w/ your ships need to go to seek a therapist I BEG. those two ppl who you ship while making up a nasty romantic story in your damn head are REAL people
actually not just overly delusional shippers but i need all of you NASTY SHIPPERS TO GONE. irene is a REAL person and the way lots of you are using her for your damned delusional shipping agenda is freaking me out. irene deserves better fans fr💀 please go seek a therapist yall are VERY WEIRD
u missing reading comprehension or something? No one said they were married? The presenter meant that them living together felt like a married couple? And where’s this energy for the sr part?
5인숙소에서 혼자, 또혼자 이사간 결과일뿐인 둘이살기에 대해서 "사실혼" 이라는 단어를 낸것은 왜 일까요? 이는 레드벨벳이 레즈비언이나 퀴어로부터 사랑받고 있다는 이야기를 하는 자리이지, 멤버 본인의 성적 지향을 억측으로도 농담이라도 시사하는 자리가 아닙니다. 영상 내에서도 설명된 바와 같이 레드벨벳의 멤버분들은 ALLY나 당사자처럼 성적 소수자에 대한 큰 이해가 있는 것처럼 보이기 때문에 저는 레드벨벳이 레즈비언이나 퀴어로부터 사랑받고 있는것이나 멤버 자신이 당사자일 수도 있음을 문제삼는 것이 아닙니다. 남의 사생활을 억측하고 자신의 주장에 불필요한 상황 설명을 생략하며 마치 사실인 것처럼 목소리 톤으로 말하는 것에 위기감을 느낍니다.
근데 나무 씨가 그런거 안 했는데요. 그냥 팬들의 둘 사이에 대한 의견을 언급했고 사실인것처럼 얘기 안 했어요. 그리고 이 퀴어돌 영업왕 프로젝트는 "내 좋아하는 아이돌은 퀴어분들을 지지하거나 퀴어한 느낌 있거나 성소수자에게 매력이 있다" 보여준 콘텐츠이에요. 퀴어 팬덤 다 알페스 안 먹지만 퀴어 팬덤에서 알페스 먹는 분이 확실히 많아서 퀴어한 매력을 얘기 하면 알페스 빠질수 없잖아요. 지난 영상에서도 여기에서 나오는 판사들이 알페스에 대한 얘기를 했어요. 님이 알페스 먹기를 별로 안 좋아하면 그냥 넘어가 도 돼요.
@@pterocardio저는 거의 유튜브를 안 봐서 우연히 본 SNS 링크에서 이 동영상, 이 채널을 처음 봤어요.그리고 저는 당사자, 여성의 바이섹셜에서 저도 그런 생각할 때도 있기 때문에 그런 생각이 있는 것은 이해하고 있습니다. 다만 저는 레드벨벳이 아니지만 다른 아이돌 분이 펜이 SNS에 올라온 알페스의 상상에 대해 "꿈의 세계에서 나오세요"라고 불쾌감을 표시한것을 보는 적이 있습니다.고등래퍼 출신 분도 SNS에서 알페스에 불쾌감을 표시한 적이 있었네요.그때 대상은 남자 아이돌이었는데 알페스에 대한 처벌을 요구하는 국민청원까지 나왔던 걸로 기억합니다. 저는 그 이후로 그런 상상은 숨어서 해야 할 것이라고 생각하게 되었습니다.이번에 이 동영상에 등장한 알페스의 표현은 성적인 것이 아니라 가벼운 것이기는 하지만 그래도 알페스이기 때문에 레드벨벳 멤버들이 성소수자에게 이해가 있을 것 같다고 해서도 그 분들 처럼 자신에 대한 알페스의 상상에 불쾌감을 가질 가능성도 제로가 아니잖아요. 이전 코멘트에 말이 부족했던 것 같아 죄송합니다만, 제 주장은 이것과 이전 코멘트에서 말한 바와 같습니다.이 채널에서 이전부터 항상 알페스의 상상에 대해 이렇게 명확하게 발언하셨다면 채널은 동영상의 편집이나 태그를 붙이는 방법을 다시 생각해 볼 필요가 있다고 저는 생각합니다. 감사합니다.
@@user-ei1bc6vf5d님의 주장을 이해합니다. 사실 평소엔 알페스 먹는 팬들끼리도 숨어야하는 룰을 잘 지키는데 아마 영상 만들어신 분들은 이전 코멘트에서 님이 말씀하신대로 나무 씨가 성적인 표현을 쓰지 않고 그냥 가볍고 아이돌들이도 예상할 수 있는 표현이기 때문에 편집 안해 도 된다는걸 생각한 거 같습니다. 불쾌감을 있을 수도 있지만 보다시피 레드벨벳은 퀴어베이팅 콘텐츠 많이 하니까 멤버들이 알페스랑 많이 섞일 쯤이 있는걸 예상해야 된 거 같고 만약에 진짜 불쾌하면은 퀴어베이팅 콘텐츠 덜 해야 된거 같아요. 그래도 태그했으면 좋겠는걸 좋은 아이디어인 거 같고 인정합니다! 감사합니다!
yeah they said that in retaliation to seulgi fans calling wendy a queerbaiter for implying she’s bi on her radio show. also seulgi is not the queerbaiter, SM is.
@@cengwn5117 lying yet again but who else is surprised. Your hate is more important than regard to Wendy. You want to sabotage her because you are a mental and social reject with some one sided hate to an idol. You can be much more of a loser than that. Actively being a reason Wendy gets shit and cosplaying as a fan is beyond mental. You you prefer Seulgi to be harmed in a lot of ways. We known your brood wanted her to die of Covid when she even had it.
Many things missed here- I laugh at when she mentioned about Wenrene married 😂 because they are living together that's not true new luvies😅 Well they both are living in dorm where all the girls use to stay before they are not living together 😂 I think yeri and seulgi have their own house now and Joy she has a boyfriend so I don't know about her and wendy don't wanna leave dorm she said that In bad boy interview also she is from canada while Irene same goes to her she doesn't wanna leave dorm either all the girls still gather when there is an important schedule. I'm upset that they didn't say anything much about Joy and yeri like Joy kissing wendy on Idols room and yeri her iconic moment "I like girls-....of course "generation" 😜 Irene's habit of slapping butts which also inherited by yeri😂 She said seulgi her bias but she missed that Seulgi watched "handmaiden" was the most important one here to share because that's what she included in monster most...how can this missed god because the bedroom scene copied from handmaiden (the best lgbt korean movie to watch) Joy just had a boyfriend because uf not she used to be the most LGBT member beside wendy they both Loves to Some questionable things
I don't see how living in the same house is not considered as living together :))))) No matter what the reasons are, they live in the same house when they have abilities to move out and live alone like the other 3 is a fact (I'm sorry :))) Wendy even had her parents back in Korea for a pretty long time and she still lived with Irene during that time and even now. I'm not saying it's gay. They help each other a lot by living together and I'm sure they find each other fine enough to do that for a long time and that's good for them.
They live together and that's a fact. No one is saying they are living together as a couple, but you can't deny that they are the only ones still living in the dorm which literally means that they live together.
Why You guys gotta attack me when I write that " Well they both are Living together in the dorm" I didn't refuse it 😭 but not as what that Reveluv is saying in the Joking way like marriage you get that! Everyone knows that only Irene and Wendy left at the dorm which they already said during the bad boy era that they both are not ready to leave the dorm while Yeri and seulgi were the first one to raise hands that they want to have their own house Let me clear you all Wendy don't wanna leave the dorm and Irene doesn't want Wendy to stay alone at the dorm but the girls still stay at the dorm from time to time I was just calling out that Reveluv who is assuming saying that wenren are living together like married couples? Which isn't true. I also heard from somewhere on her radio show I don't that Wendy isn't living in the dorm anymore but she still goes there like other members why it gotta be so serious for u guys to attack me!😤
@Lowkeyreal245 you literally wrote "they both are living in the dorm where all the girls used to stay before they are not living together" up there. I just corrected that part. You are the one who's spreading wrong information here. And Irene talked about not wanting Wendy to stay alone in the dorm back in when all the girls were still living together and everyone except for Wendy came back to their own homes for holidays. Not when they (Seulgi, Joy, Yeri) moved out and got their own places. In fact, up to this day none of us has been hearing anything about why Irene and Wendy are living together in the dorm. Wendy has never left the dorm and she still lives there even now. Idk which radio it is that you heard she said she isn't living in the dorm anymore cause even now after her Rebecca schedule, she literally told her fans that she's going back to the dorm. Even their latest comeback, Birthday, Seulgi Joy and Yeri just picked the dorm as the place to gather so their manager could pick all 5 of them up easier. No one from Seulgi, Joy and Yeri ever stays at the dorm from time to time. There are just Irene and Wendy there.
I feel like this comment is too harsh on the presenter. You cannot possibly expect them to include all moments that you consider to be queer moments in an originally 10 minute presentation. They already extended by 30 more minutes and unfortunately a lot of that might've been cut due to the time limit. Additionally, they didn't say that wenrene are married because they're living together, they simply stated that they are living together and that fans often note that they are very close to the point of fans wondering whether they're secretly married.
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TY for the video. also wendy once said "i have a dream of walking with my boyfriend or girlfriend while sharing an umbrella"
I really love when someone talking like this about Wendy's sexuality. I mean it's so obvious and you can feel her sincerity everytime she opens her mouth and talk about what she likes. Just like for example when she said she wants to share an umbrella with her future bf/gf. And the way she wants her fans to say "prince" and/or "handsome" more than to princess and/or pretty, she even correct her fans sometimes. Before I really thought she's just love to tease and flirt with her members, but when she became a radio dj, you can see she's literally blushing to every single female guests while it's obvious she's awkward and just wants to move on when male guest do something to make her flutter
That Sana and Wendy interaction 😭
not to mention the "Ohhh girl come and light me up.."~
I really have to recommend “Color of Love” one of the bsides that Red Velvet released in their Japanese Album, the lyrics are so supportive and i really felt i was being accepted when they sang about “Love is in all kind color and there is nothing to feel afraid of”
I was so touched by reading the translation of the lyrics and couldn’t stop listening to it since then…
The way they sing it is so soothing and comforting as well :)
I agree, that's the song that is really queer coded for me. I was hoping that they'd mention it
that is beautiful writing oh ny god ❤❤❤
I love how she addresses Red Velvet as her babies. Also, I think Lez Velvet seems like their alter ego so they deemed it so fittingly. Just such a shame that they had to cut her presentation about Joy and Yeri.
She was so immersed with pitching Red Velvet to the panel and didn't think time has gone by so much.
Such a great show, thank you for talking that good about the members, Red Velvet!
Wendy has indeed, as seen in the video, has been super supportive of differences in people and embracing them... She always said that she just loves People in general, regardless of gender or sex :) ... I just think the simple though of including 'Ohh Girl' in the Light Me Up song (which is her favourite RV song btw), so that she felt that the female fans of RV needed to be included too is just such a small but important aspect that explains her beautiful personality
This is so important! As an international queer kpop fan, it's so cool to see we feel the same way even tho we are far away and our culture is different. We all just want to belong, feel represented and live as our authentic self. Love from Brazil 🥰
And hope mamamoo is next, my queens 😊✨
really appreciated the wendy segment! love how sincere she is in her efforts to be inclusive❤ also love that she’s open to non-conforming terms like prince, oppa, etc
My ooh girl prince Wendy/ seungwan 🥺
the presentation about Wendy is really long enough, because yes, even though she's not directly saying it, you can feel how she's genuine about gender inclusion and equality, I remember on one of her radio ep, she said she imagined herself sharing an umbrella with her boyfriend or girlfriend, you probably missed that since it's not viewable 😅
All she does is queerbait and her fans eat it up😂
@@skzs0ne__ you're blatantly being biphobic and denying her bisexuality but sure go on!
please don’t give that troll ^ the attention they desperately want nothing constructive will come out of it
@@skzs0ne__ you probably don't even know what that word means lmao
@@skzs0ne__is this homophobic comment or just blind by her actions?
there are actually more moments of them being very supportive towards the LGBTQ, especially wendy and yeri!
I think the presentor elected to only show the more direct instances as it would've taken way too long to really show everything especially since the point of the presentation is to show why your faves are popular/should be popular among the queer community so it's a balance of showing instances of them showing support to the LGBTQ community and showing their "queer charm"!
Wendy? All she does is queerbait. I'm sure that woman is straight 🤣
@@skzs0ne__Wrong member, Seulgi and Irene were the ones pretending to be queer to gain views during their subunit promotions.
@@skzs0ne__ she is a literal bisexual and she said it indirectly on her radio but okay keep denying it ig
Where is the comment that said wendy is queer baiting? Did that bastard delete it? I see the username but not the comment. Where is it?!🤨
An Orbit, loona fan, would eat this up 😂 there is so many queer connection between orbits and loona's message and herstory. Really liked this episode and the mamamoo one as well, I'm also a big queer fan of them ❤
Interesting contents.
I'm touched knowing about that Wendy's 'Ooh girl' impact ❤
Thank you for featuring Red Velvet! 💖
12:37 I love how she said that fans have mixed feelings about WenRene .....since they doubt whether they're a married couple lol bcoz of how well they interact with each other :)
wendy thank you for making us all feel valid 🩵🫶
16:35 - 22:30 best presentation 🥰💙
So lovely to see a queer Reveluv showing Red Velvet's support to the queer community! I love how honest they are and of course Wendy and Yeri are super confident and outspoken which is amazing to see. I really hope we can see a SHINee queer charm presentation because there's so much to explore there!!!!
That was such a good pitch. I already love red velvet and already know all of these but it still reminds me of just how much i adore them.
Wendy is so cute ❤ I have never listened to them, but they definitely caught my eye
40분 넘게 영업하신겤ㅋㅋㅋㅋ대단하세요ㅜ 개인적으로 배드보이 뮤비 퀴어버전 해석을 너무너무 좋아하는데 관심 있으신분들은 꼭 봐주셨으면 좋겟습니다..
We need to see the whole 40 minutes 😂
I love her presentation, it was so touching.
WENDY 💙💙💙
Wkwkwk irene and wendy merried
영업 잘 짜서 잼있게 봤습니다! 개인적으로 레드벨벳 곡들중에 제일 좋아하는 노래는 다시 여름이라는 노래구요. 그 앨범 나왔을 때도 제 탐라에서 해외 팬들이 다시 여름은 레즈 커플송이라고 많이 불렀어요 ㅋㅋㅋ
다음 영업을 많이 기대해요!! 마마무 에스파 에프엑스 샤이니 엔씨티 등등 팬들 나오면 정말 좋겠고 에프엑스 팬으로서 울 함수니 되게 퀴어한 느낌 많이 나서 영업을 보고 싶네요
Excited to see who you'll do next. I think you can do an entire day presentation on groups like Mamamoo, wjsn or even SNSD 😆
Little tidbit.
I too, would like to hold my significant other, in the rain holding an umbrella to protect us from the weather.
I hope in the future, everyone will get to love who they want and show it without repercussions of society’s preconceived perception of who you have to be with and what gender they should be.
This is what the video entails.
- Free love -
Something we still have a lot to understand.
this means alot!! thank you so much ❤
Before RV i never took interest in kpop but now this video makes me think, the gays like me definitely has an instinct to stan celebrity of certain qualities and RV fits in it. I love them very much🥰🩷🩵💛💚💜
케이팝에 대해 자세히 아는 편은 아니었지만 이번 기획을 통해 케이팝과 관련된 퀴어 문화도 알게 되어 좋았고 정말 재미있게 보고 있어요. 개인적으로는 다음편에 마마무가 나오면 좋겠지만 어느 아이돌이 나오건 기대됩니다~~
so fun! also great pitch haha red velvet forever!
입덕합니다..❤❤❤
Loved it, wanted even more 😅
왼디씨...제발 나랑 결혼하
지 말고 좋은사람 만나든지 아니면 혼자든지 꼭 행복해 ㆍㆍㆍ
Wendy always poses likes she wants to attract WOMEN 😭
you should bring all out why cut it out we happy to see all the presentations 😂😂😂 even its 1 hr video I will watch it 🤣🤣🤣
Wow I didn't know that K-luvies publish a queer magazine, that's so cool. Btw wendy actually came out casually as bisexual
WHEN??
Como a kinga não falou da Wendy e o guarda-chuva!
Fora que: Ela e Irene casadas… Todo mundo sabe que é isso e fingem não saber.
I expect yeri support for LGBTQ+ or queer world would be explained more detailed especially her friendship with holland.
Wendy，Irene I love u~❤
What a sweet presentation~😊 Love Lez Velvet! 🌈
My girls/Gæ got exposed 😂😂
Just say gaespa
It’s funny they already a fan it’s shook me 😂😂😂
I hope Reveluvs call out Seulrene Shippers. They are getting too comfortable insulting and degrading Wendy and fans for interfering with their fantasies.
Literally the opposite. I'm not even a shipper but I've never come across a Sr shipper attack Wendy while wr shippers har@ss Seulgi on a daily. Yall were literally creating new accounts pretending to be a Sr shipper today and dragging your own fave in your CCs🤣
@@rvhp1502 lmao who are those ppl calling Wendy a homewrecker and insulting her every time someone mentions wenrene? 🤣 pretending to be a non shipper just to make your 'observation' valid is hilarious but then that's an expected behaviour from a seulrener so it doesn't surprise me as much 🤣
@@rvhp1502oh you didn't see that particular comment in this video? 😂
Let's not act like it's just them. I can bring up plenty of tweets on wr being nasty n wishing harm to Seulgi.. Be so fr... Y'all been comfortable being nasty to Seulgi..
@@ashtray2004 wow seulreners not just making themselves believe their ship is real, they are also trying to convince themselves they're not nasty to wendy 😭
What a good presentation 😂
42 minutes of presentation😂 very understandable! I’ll probably do the same😂😂 love this video!!
같은 러비로서 이렇게 나와서 열심히 영업해주셔서 너무너무 감사합니다 ㅠㅠㅠ 감동 ..
there are certain ppl who would actually throw a fit and make a big deal out of this video especially the Wendy/married part：
1. infamous radical SR shippers aka the main force of "W-haters".
2. Wenluvs who dislike Irene.
3. “Reneluvs” who dislike Wendy.
4. ostensible “ship-phobes” who act like they’re uniquely rational, but most of them are actually 2 or 3, basically akgaes.
5. some essential homophobes.
I'm loving this series! I've already watched Mamamoo's one and this one
I knew this video would start a mess with the mentally ill side of the fandom, which unfortunately is the biggest part of the fandom
I’ve been here since the beginning and let me tell you, it’s an irreversible annoying nuisance many have to deal with even years from now.
SM is also part of the reason why W gets the brunt end from these delusional shippers. A can of worms I can make a thesis out of.
Those can not separate perceived fiction from reality.
It’s embarrassing how they bring a sign to their concert and ask about Jeju. Like have some shame for fucks sake
Aka wluvs/ wr shippers
@@rvhp1502
It doesn’t take a neuron to see what type of subfandoms and shippers to know who overrules the RV fandom as a whole.
Go outside and get a life pls
@@rvhp1502 Nah. Aka Seulmates/ SR shippers.
They are infamous for being delusional and toxic.
Like asking about necklaces on LIVE streaming, bringing a sign to their concert and ask about Jeju, treating Irene as just a character for their shipping.
Everyone knew SR shippers are disgusting scums and harasses other fandoms just because they think it's a threat to their ship.
The other ship literally ship for fun, SR ship for REAL.
@@sleepyearthoh pls since 2014 wr shippers are sck as fck
In April 2022, a fan also asked, Irene
'Unnie, is there anything you will never give up on no matter how the others oppose it? I have a girlfriend. We've been dating for 3 yrs, she is 3yrs older than me and she treats me well. However, my dad opposes it. But I really want to defend my own happiness.'
Irene gave this answer: 'If [name] thinks it's the happiness you want, of course you should go ahead. You should/must be happy, isn't it?' cr. @sinrinaring @irene_global
엔시티드림도 해찬이빼고 다 i에요 힘들지만 아이돌가능한거같아요 ㅎ 조이랑예리는 e인줄알았어요 근데 i ㅎㅎ
Wow! Namu and I became a fan of RV at the same time i.e. around Peek-a-boo in late 2017 :)
My first comeback was Red Flavor so i guess i became a fan around early 2017. Time flies
I need an episode on Kim Taehyung please somebody collect the evidence ❤❤❤
Yes I need the boygroup version too
Comments full of insecure people. Like, just let them support the community through their own way. Also pls don't spread missinformations about them. AND don't assume things that's not even clear. Like your hatred towards some members is so clear that you bring it up through this platform won't help the community at all (if you really support them)
Yea #that subfandom still spreading that jeju trip as jeju lover trip. I'm literally so disgusted that they are even trying to spread that misinformation to sabotage wendy's photoshop support trip.
SR fandom really the most toxic fandom ever.
My best girls😍😍😍
this was so good, hoping to see someone pitch mamammoo, dreamcatcher and twice as well
I think it will come soon especially mamamoo.
the mamamoo episode just came out!
@@butterfly22432 yeah i saw it when it came out ^____¥
아이들레즈는 왜 없나용ㅋㅋ
Yesss i became a reveluv bcs of peekaboo as well
아이들도 해줬으면 좋겠다
so real
i’m glad irene is leaving fad velvet soon she’s goona be free from yall mental nasty shippers, esp wendick fans
free from shippers and a job cause there's no way she's getting jobs in korea without rv lol gonna spend the rest of her life endorsing random japanese brands
Wait for it. It won't take long for Irene to announce her boyfriend or marriage soon. She is already in her 30s and she is not an active soloist.
I can't wait for it, so wendy can be finally be free from her, who knows how she treat wendy? What if she receives multiple abuse from her, poor wannie
@@bruni6428 why’re you here lol ? Sorry if my 'happy and comfortable agenda' hurt your pride 🤠. An akgae came out of nowhere and pretended like you has the permission to judge other fans who truly love the girls 🙄
@@linrin9552 so what? This comment really hating Wendy don't get blind. What do you want me to do? To laugh? And support this shit? Use your mind
and I'm not hurt for your "happy and comfortable" agenda. What do you think of me? 10 years old? I'm just clearly stating those fans points
다좋은데 레즈하다가 조이 페미니즘 얘긴왜하는거지 거기다 '남자들이 논란을 만들었죠'? 지금듣고계신분 3명중에 한분이 남자인데 무례하네요 말투도그렇고 왜 화가나있죠?
I still remember when seulgi was so excited to see same sex streetlights in Austria and recently she said she prefers being recognized by women and mentioned being proud of having a primarily female fanbase countless of times over the years 🥺
진짜 보기 거북하네..
그럼보지마세요~억지로 끼워맞추는 남자여자열애설은 좋다고보면서
The presenter saying Seulgi is her type 😭😭 join the club💛💛💛
목소리가 얼빠안경왕 목소리가 같은데
saying that i married to w just bc they live in a damn dorm tgt when they just think of eo as FRIENDS/SISTERS is such a VERY VERY WEIRD behavior...... idc but you ppl being overly delusional w/ your ships need to go to seek a therapist I BEG. those two ppl who you ship while making up a nasty romantic story in your damn head are REAL people
actually not just overly delusional shippers but i need all of you NASTY SHIPPERS TO GONE. irene is a REAL person and the way lots of you are using her for your damned delusional shipping agenda is freaking me out. irene deserves better fans fr💀 please go seek a therapist yall are VERY WEIRD
u missing reading comprehension or something? No one said they were married? The presenter meant that them living together felt like a married couple? And where’s this energy for the sr part?
@@oopsieeeeeeoooh wr shipper got triggered because they called out your nasty behaviour🤣
@@rvhp1502 a seulrener acting like they are not the most insane and delusional shippers in kpop 🤣
@@rvhp1502 oooooh sr shipper got triggered because they called out your nasty behavior. 🤣
5인숙소에서 혼자, 또혼자 이사간 결과일뿐인 둘이살기에 대해서 "사실혼" 이라는 단어를 낸것은 왜 일까요? 이는 레드벨벳이 레즈비언이나 퀴어로부터 사랑받고 있다는 이야기를 하는 자리이지, 멤버 본인의 성적 지향을 억측으로도 농담이라도 시사하는 자리가 아닙니다.
영상 내에서도 설명된 바와 같이 레드벨벳의 멤버분들은 ALLY나 당사자처럼 성적 소수자에 대한 큰 이해가 있는 것처럼 보이기 때문에 저는 레드벨벳이 레즈비언이나 퀴어로부터 사랑받고 있는것이나 멤버 자신이 당사자일 수도 있음을 문제삼는 것이 아닙니다. 남의 사생활을 억측하고 자신의 주장에 불필요한 상황 설명을 생략하며 마치 사실인 것처럼 목소리 톤으로 말하는 것에 위기감을 느낍니다.
근데 나무 씨가 그런거 안 했는데요. 그냥 팬들의 둘 사이에 대한 의견을 언급했고 사실인것처럼 얘기 안 했어요. 그리고 이 퀴어돌 영업왕 프로젝트는 "내 좋아하는 아이돌은 퀴어분들을 지지하거나 퀴어한 느낌 있거나 성소수자에게 매력이 있다" 보여준 콘텐츠이에요. 퀴어 팬덤 다 알페스 안 먹지만 퀴어 팬덤에서 알페스 먹는 분이 확실히 많아서 퀴어한 매력을 얘기 하면 알페스 빠질수 없잖아요. 지난 영상에서도 여기에서 나오는 판사들이 알페스에 대한 얘기를 했어요. 님이 알페스 먹기를 별로 안 좋아하면 그냥 넘어가 도 돼요.
@@pterocardio저는 거의 유튜브를 안 봐서 우연히 본 SNS 링크에서 이 동영상, 이 채널을 처음 봤어요.그리고 저는 당사자, 여성의 바이섹셜에서 저도 그런 생각할 때도 있기 때문에 그런 생각이 있는 것은 이해하고 있습니다. 다만 저는 레드벨벳이 아니지만 다른 아이돌 분이 펜이 SNS에 올라온 알페스의 상상에 대해 "꿈의 세계에서 나오세요"라고 불쾌감을 표시한것을 보는 적이 있습니다.고등래퍼 출신 분도 SNS에서 알페스에 불쾌감을 표시한 적이 있었네요.그때 대상은 남자 아이돌이었는데 알페스에 대한 처벌을 요구하는 국민청원까지 나왔던 걸로 기억합니다. 저는 그 이후로 그런 상상은 숨어서 해야 할 것이라고 생각하게 되었습니다.이번에 이 동영상에 등장한 알페스의 표현은 성적인 것이 아니라 가벼운 것이기는 하지만 그래도 알페스이기 때문에 레드벨벳 멤버들이 성소수자에게 이해가 있을 것 같다고 해서도 그 분들 처럼 자신에 대한 알페스의 상상에 불쾌감을 가질 가능성도 제로가 아니잖아요.
이전 코멘트에 말이 부족했던 것 같아 죄송합니다만, 제 주장은 이것과 이전 코멘트에서 말한 바와 같습니다.이 채널에서 이전부터 항상 알페스의 상상에 대해 이렇게 명확하게 발언하셨다면 채널은 동영상의 편집이나 태그를 붙이는 방법을 다시 생각해 볼 필요가 있다고 저는 생각합니다. 감사합니다.
@@user-ei1bc6vf5d님의 주장을 이해합니다. 사실 평소엔 알페스 먹는 팬들끼리도 숨어야하는 룰을 잘 지키는데 아마 영상 만들어신 분들은 이전 코멘트에서 님이 말씀하신대로 나무 씨가 성적인 표현을 쓰지 않고 그냥 가볍고 아이돌들이도 예상할 수 있는 표현이기 때문에 편집 안해 도 된다는걸 생각한 거 같습니다. 불쾌감을 있을 수도 있지만 보다시피 레드벨벳은 퀴어베이팅 콘텐츠 많이 하니까 멤버들이 알페스랑 많이 섞일 쯤이 있는걸 예상해야 된 거 같고 만약에 진짜 불쾌하면은 퀴어베이팅 콘텐츠 덜 해야 된거 같아요. 그래도 태그했으면 좋겠는걸 좋은 아이디어인 거 같고 인정합니다! 감사합니다!
stop this or else SM will call Dispatch that Irene has 2 husbands, 3 sons and 4 boyfriends!!!!
I don't mind. sr shippers will definitely go crazy on that article while wr just be chilling.
Stop assuming people's sesxuality esp Irene!! Leave Irene alone!
억지로 맞추는 이야기..
wendy fans bashing seulgi and calling her queerbaiter lol your the delusional ones thinking wendy and irene are married in their dorm
yeah they said that in retaliation to seulgi fans calling wendy a queerbaiter for implying she’s bi on her radio show. also seulgi is not the queerbaiter, SM is.
@@cengwn5117 and when you set wendy up for bad press dont be surprised
both shippers are so weird. admit it or not
@@karathompson7776 seulgi’s bad press is her voice cracking every time she gets close to the mic, worry about that.
@@cengwn5117 lying yet again but who else is surprised. Your hate is more important than regard to Wendy. You want to sabotage her because you are a mental and social reject with some one sided hate to an idol. You can be much more of a loser than that. Actively being a reason Wendy gets shit and cosplaying as a fan is beyond mental. You you prefer Seulgi to be harmed in a lot of ways. We known your brood wanted her to die of Covid when she even had it.
Many things missed here-
I laugh at when she mentioned about Wenrene married 😂 because they are living together that's not true new luvies😅
Well they both are living in dorm where all the girls use to stay before they are not living together 😂 I think yeri and seulgi have their own house now and Joy she has a boyfriend so I don't know about her and wendy don't wanna leave dorm she said that In bad boy interview also she is from canada while Irene same goes to her she doesn't wanna leave dorm either all the girls still gather when there is an important schedule.
I'm upset that they didn't say anything much about Joy and yeri like Joy kissing wendy on Idols room and yeri her iconic moment "I like girls-....of course "generation" 😜
Irene's habit of slapping butts which also inherited by yeri😂
She said seulgi her bias but she missed that Seulgi watched "handmaiden" was the most important one here to share because that's what she included in monster most...how can this missed god because the bedroom scene copied from handmaiden (the best lgbt korean movie to watch)
Joy just had a boyfriend because uf not she used to be the most LGBT member beside wendy they both Loves to Some questionable things
I don't see how living in the same house is not considered as living together :))))) No matter what the reasons are, they live in the same house when they have abilities to move out and live alone like the other 3 is a fact (I'm sorry :))) Wendy even had her parents back in Korea for a pretty long time and she still lived with Irene during that time and even now. I'm not saying it's gay. They help each other a lot by living together and I'm sure they find each other fine enough to do that for a long time and that's good for them.
They live together and that's a fact. No one is saying they are living together as a couple, but you can't deny that they are the only ones still living in the dorm which literally means that they live together.
Why You guys gotta attack me when I write that " Well they both are Living together in the dorm" I didn't refuse it 😭 but not as what that Reveluv is saying in the Joking way like marriage you get that!
Everyone knows that only Irene and Wendy left at the dorm which they already said during the bad boy era that they both are not ready to leave the dorm while Yeri and seulgi were the first one to raise hands that they want to have their own house
Let me clear you all Wendy don't wanna leave the dorm and Irene doesn't want Wendy to stay alone at the dorm but the girls still stay at the dorm from time to time I was just calling out that Reveluv who is assuming saying that wenren are living together like married couples? Which isn't true. I also heard from somewhere on her radio show I don't that Wendy isn't living in the dorm anymore but she still goes there like other members why it gotta be so serious for u guys to attack me!😤
@Lowkeyreal245 you literally wrote "they both are living in the dorm where all the girls used to stay before they are not living together" up there. I just corrected that part. You are the one who's spreading wrong information here.
And Irene talked about not wanting Wendy to stay alone in the dorm back in when all the girls were still living together and everyone except for Wendy came back to their own homes for holidays. Not when they (Seulgi, Joy, Yeri) moved out and got their own places. In fact, up to this day none of us has been hearing anything about why Irene and Wendy are living together in the dorm. Wendy has never left the dorm and she still lives there even now. Idk which radio it is that you heard she said she isn't living in the dorm anymore cause even now after her Rebecca schedule, she literally told her fans that she's going back to the dorm. Even their latest comeback, Birthday, Seulgi Joy and Yeri just picked the dorm as the place to gather so their manager could pick all 5 of them up easier. No one from Seulgi, Joy and Yeri ever stays at the dorm from time to time. There are just Irene and Wendy there.
I feel like this comment is too harsh on the presenter. You cannot possibly expect them to include all moments that you consider to be queer moments in an originally 10 minute presentation. They already extended by 30 more minutes and unfortunately a lot of that might've been cut due to the time limit. Additionally, they didn't say that wenrene are married because they're living together, they simply stated that they are living together and that fans often note that they are very close to the point of fans wondering whether they're secretly married.
You all are so weird thinking irene will date someone from the both of them!!! She deserves so much better
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