Hi Ben, Thank you for explaining the appearance between loveless and cory bolts. The cutaway was a great help in understanding the mechanics. Also explaining what occurs if the counterbores are over depth meaning no more force will be applied to the scale halves along with the fix of cutting down the end of the tube as a work round so the shoulders on each half of the assembly would still be pulled up tight, rather than the scales remaining loose.
I rather enjoy it when I watch a video like this and have no questions afterwards because everything was explained so simply and succinctly. Thanks, mate. Great content.
@@BenOrford Thank you for the reply I appreciate it. O man I love your knives and sheaths very much they are building with a lot off expertise and become wonderful. The Woodlander and the Trapper both in 4 inches are my favorites and hopefully sometime soon I’ll own one of them. There’s a lot of thinking about the right building materials to be done specifically picking the right steel. Kind regards Geertjan Janssen
Well done. A perfect and concise explanatory video to show these two fixings. Very few people presenters manage that level of clarity. The cut-away knife scale worked really well 👍
Excellent demonstration! I was watching "Forged in Fire" and they mentioned a contestant was having trouble with the Corby bolts. I found your video and you explained everything. Now, I understand why he was having trouble with the fit. Thanks!
Smashing thank you ... I really did learn quite a bit and I'll feel more informed when it comes to my next knife purchase ... Incidentally I agree, the 'eye' look is quite appealing...
Great video! I have been wanting to try loveless and corby bolts on my knives but just haven't yet. this will help. So far my favorite method is flared hollow brass and stainless tube pins.
That's nice stuff, I've just used 3/16" brass pins cut from a rod for my knives. Of course mine are just for fun and to give and sell to friends, not high end retail stuff. So far the brass pins and epoxy have held up well though.
With the loveless bolt I can see were the bolt came through and was ground flush. The other side with the slot you used to tighten, was that ground off? So both sides would show the insert and the threads in the middle. I guess it would be the same for the other fastener. The slot would be ground off. Interesting thanks for showing.
I bought some Corby bolts of a UK knife maker on eBay. I removed about 3mm during grinding and the center broke through! I'm using loveless now. Much cheaper if you buy the stuff yourself instead of relying on knife makers who sell 2 at a time.
I used to flare them but to be honest it’s not necessary as the right fit and the epoxy are good enough plus if you flare them before shaping you grind the flaring off. Then if you flare after you risk damaging the handle. Hope that helps, cheers Ben
Hi Bruce well if your if you want a few pairs drop me a line I am sure we can sell you some to get you started. Many thanks cheers Ben info@benandloisorford.com
How do you figure out where to put the pins in a knife handle? Is it measured from the center of the entire blade, or is it measured in the center of the part of the handle where you want the pin
So on the loveless I know you said you cut off the end that sticks out that is threaded and then grind it down but what about the flat head top. Do you cut that off and then grind down what is left or do you just grind down the whole head until it matches the profile of the handle? As long as both of the sleeves are threaded then they won't be any chance of loosening once you grind down the flat head.
Excellent video. I have a Dremel driller, but I don't know how to drill the holes on scales. The chuck can hold only 3mm drill bit. Do I need to buy a converter or something?
Given that the two nuts on the Corby bolt are threaded, their distance from each other will not change as the bolt is tightened. It’s a function of the number of threads between them. Once the bolt head is tightened down onto the closest nut, the nut on the other side of the knife can’t tighten anymore. What am I missing?
Yes with Corbys you have to make sure your counterbore is the correct depth or you have to shorten the stem off the female side. That way the bottom of the Corby will still hit the bottom of the counterbore with thread still to tighten and thus clamp the handle scale tight to the tang. Hope that helps Many thanks cheers Ben
@@BenOrford I get it now. The nut nearest the head starts to turn with the head once it comes up against it. The other nut does not turn and therefore the two nuts pull together. Magic! Not quite magic but cool
Well done! Clearly explained. One question if you can answer: what length of Corby bolt would work with 1/2" scales? I may be missing something, but the ones I see for sale seem too short. Thanks, Frank
Ok but if the brass inserts are epoxy into the scale then screwing in the bolt wouldn't tighten and press agenst the blade unless one of the brass nuts break free and spin inside scale.... if both brass nuts are same thread then the bolt would just move thru acting like a worm gear? How can you tighten 2 stationary nuts with same thread direction by turning the bolt?
@@bitrage. ok well the nuts are epoxied in but when they are being tightened the epoxy is still wet and not set allowing them to spin and tighten up fully at the bottom of the whole till they bottom out and you can fully tighten the bolt. Makes a super strong mechanical fit 👍
Will the loveless bolts act the same as a clamp during the glue up process? Will I still have to clamp the scales? I have always used straight pin stock and never used these.
Quagmire88 Don't be absurd! You can never have too many clamps! Clamp your clamps even, so they're nice and sturdy.. lol Jk. Honest, I'd probably throw a Clamp in between if the material is thin, soft, or you arent sure if its 100%flat just to get good contact. Although I'm sure you could get away with going clampless, especially with the corbys, as you can actually torque those down a bit.. but still.. more clamps never hurt lol Clamp all the things! 🔩🔪😄
Well darn my socks and call me grandpa... I'd really do well to have some more power tools for this DIY stuff. Shaving off the ends? At least I know how these Corby and Loveless bolts work now. =8/-DX
Thanks for the comment but these pins and Mosaic pins don’t get peened it’s not like peening pins on a slip joint etc. if you did peen mosaic pins they would deform and look terrible. It’s all about knowing the right skills for the right project and materials 👍
sex bolt are what i call them. also have you tried latigo for your leather work which will not cause sweat to hurt them.what sewing machine does your wife use.
Thank you I now understand more about bolts on knifes
Thank you for this video. As someone just starting in handle making this is invaluable
Learn peening, its stronger
Thanks for your help.Im new just going to make knifes for my kids and myself.You have been very helpful !!!.
Great stuff well hope it helps and if you need any further help let us know.
cheers Ben
Thanks. Perfectly explained.
Just started on my second pair of scales and using corby's for the first time. Thanks for explaining the differences and end result. Much appreciated!
Hi Ben,
Thank you for explaining the appearance between loveless and cory bolts. The cutaway was a great help in understanding the mechanics. Also explaining what occurs if the counterbores are over depth meaning no more force will be applied to the scale halves along with the fix of cutting down the end of the tube as a work round so the shoulders on each half of the assembly would still be pulled up tight, rather than the scales remaining loose.
I rather enjoy it when I watch a video like this and have no questions afterwards because everything was explained so simply and succinctly. Thanks, mate. Great content.
Thanks for this video I was curious about the hardware used in the handles…thanks again.
I am replacing the factory handle on my Fallkniven A1 with wood scales. Your tutorial is most helpful.
Ben thank you very much for the wonderful advice’s it’s all very clear what you have shown in the video.
Thanks a lot 👍
@@BenOrford Thank you for the reply I appreciate it. O man I love your knives and sheaths very much they are building with a lot off expertise and become wonderful. The Woodlander and the Trapper both in 4 inches are my favorites and hopefully sometime soon I’ll own one of them.
There’s a lot of thinking about the right building materials to be done specifically picking the right steel.
Kind regards Geertjan Janssen
@@geertjanjanssen5983 well thanks a lot when you are ready let us know and I am sure we can make something special for you many thanks cheers Ben
I'm in love with the knife handle you showed, just beautiful and practical too. Thanks
Well done. A perfect and concise explanatory video to show these two fixings. Very few people presenters manage that level of clarity. The cut-away knife scale worked really well 👍
Excellent demonstration! I was watching "Forged in Fire" and they mentioned a contestant was having trouble with the Corby bolts. I found your video and you explained everything. Now, I understand why he was having trouble with the fit. Thanks!
Good to have you back Ben. Looking forward to more videos in the future. They have always been helpful and taught me a thing or two.
You make some of the best field tools in the world..
I love your tools ..
Thank you for this explanation! Precisely the information I was in need of.
Smashing thank you ... I really did learn quite a bit and I'll feel more informed when it comes to my next knife purchase ...
Incidentally I agree, the 'eye' look is quite appealing...
Thanks Ben, good info. I'm a newbie and like the idea of mechanical attachment along with epoxy.
👍 Excellent video, thank you. Beautiful knives as well.
thanks a million. it was my question since ages and you answered it in most perfect way.
Amazing and insightful, thanks Ben. Keep up your good work as always, love the weekly videos.
Excellent, very informative and helpful, thank you! 😊
Thank You. A great video for beginners and it’s easy to understand.
Exactly what i was looking for. Thank you!
Thanks for sharing Ben.
Thanks for a very clear explanation.
Excellent demo. I like.
Well explained, thank you for sharing your time!
Thanks for the great video....Man you knife guys work hard.....
Brilliant, thank you!
thank you for making this video. I was struggling with this issue.
Fantastic explanation. Thank you
Thanks for that explanation bud. Very informative.
Great video, very helpful thank you.
Great video! Thank you.
Very well explained Ben, thank you.
Great video! I have been wanting to try loveless and corby bolts on my knives but just haven't yet. this will help. So far my favorite method is flared hollow brass and stainless tube pins.
That's nice stuff, I've just used 3/16" brass pins cut from a rod for my knives. Of course mine are just for fun and to give and sell to friends, not high end retail stuff. So far the brass pins and epoxy have held up well though.
That's all you really need these fancy bolts are for people who don't know how to properly peen pins.
Thank You.
Awesome video Thank you
Nicely explained.
Thanks very helpful
Thank you!
VERY helpfull !!! And with the cutout handle, very easy to understand !!! THANKS :-)
Yes, that was very helpful. Thank you!
Thanks, just the info I was looking for.
Very nice video thanks .
Beautiful Knives, Ben, will look into one when the budget suits. Well explained video, :)
Excellent video Ben I will consider using both of these . Just starting out so all this info really helps thank you
Glad it was useful for you 👍
Awesome vid
Thank you for making this make sense. Why would you use one of these vs mosaic or pins?
Informative. Thanks yo.
Great video... 'effectively' explained :-D
Nice video,thanks for sharing!
Any tips on how to finish the loveless bolts so that there’s not small thread gap? Thanks!
Great lesson thx.
he is back! another great video Ben are you going to be doing more videos soon
Thanks you!!! Cheers!!!
With the loveless bolt I can see were the bolt came through and was ground flush. The other side with the slot you used to tighten, was that ground off? So both sides would show the insert and the threads in the middle. I guess it would be the same for the other fastener. The slot would be ground off. Interesting thanks for showing.
I bought some Corby bolts of a UK knife maker on eBay. I removed about 3mm during grinding and the center broke through! I'm using loveless now. Much cheaper if you buy the stuff yourself instead of relying on knife makers who sell 2 at a time.
Please show how you made your counter-bore I really need to make one.
Do you flair out the lanyard brass?
I used to flare them but to be honest it’s not necessary as the right fit and the epoxy are good enough plus if you flare them before shaping you grind the flaring off. Then if you flare after you risk damaging the handle. Hope that helps, cheers Ben
Where can I purchase the Levett knife handle bolts?
Hi Bruce well if your if you want a few pairs drop me a line I am sure we can sell you some to get you started.
Many thanks cheers Ben
info@benandloisorford.com
What about thinner plastic scales that you cant drill a shelf in?
How do you figure out where to put the pins in a knife handle? Is it measured from the center of the entire blade, or is it measured in the center of the part of the handle where you want the pin
Awesome
So on the loveless I know you said you cut off the end that sticks out that is threaded and then grind it down but what about the flat head top. Do you cut that off and then grind down what is left or do you just grind down the whole head until it matches the profile of the handle? As long as both of the sleeves are threaded then they won't be any chance of loosening once you grind down the flat head.
Word of the day…”effectively”. Thanks, cool vid.
Excellent video. I have a Dremel driller, but I don't know how to drill the holes on scales. The chuck can hold only 3mm drill bit. Do I need to buy a converter or something?
Given that the two nuts on the Corby bolt are threaded, their distance from each other will not change as the bolt is tightened. It’s a function of the number of threads between them. Once the bolt head is tightened down onto the closest nut, the nut on the other side of the knife can’t tighten anymore. What am I missing?
Yes with Corbys you have to make sure your counterbore is the correct depth or you have to shorten the stem off the female side.
That way the bottom of the Corby will still hit the bottom of the counterbore with thread still to tighten and thus clamp the handle scale tight to the tang. Hope that helps
Many thanks cheers Ben
@@BenOrford I get it now. The nut nearest the head starts to turn with the head once it comes up against it. The other nut does not turn and therefore the two nuts pull together. Magic! Not quite magic but cool
Well done! Clearly explained. One question if you can answer: what length of Corby bolt would work with 1/2" scales? I may be missing something, but the ones I see for sale seem too short. Thanks, Frank
does it ever come loose .?
Why called loveless bolts they work lovely
Best I've seen on this subject Ben. 👍 Is an acorn bolt a variant of the Loveless?
Where do you get your sleeve nuts from please.
what thickness is your handle material I like how beefy it is. great video btw
how much are your trapper knifes please ben.
what degree you grinder your scandi grinds at
Ok but if the brass inserts are epoxy into the scale then screwing in the bolt wouldn't tighten and press agenst the blade unless one of the brass nuts break free and spin inside scale.... if both brass nuts are same thread then the bolt would just move thru acting like a worm gear? How can you tighten 2 stationary nuts with same thread direction by turning the bolt?
@@bitrage. ok well the nuts are epoxied in but when they are being tightened the epoxy is still wet and not set allowing them to spin and tighten up fully at the bottom of the whole till they bottom out and you can fully tighten the bolt. Makes a super strong mechanical fit 👍
I don’t understand how loveless bolts can draw, since both sides are threaded. I get that they will stay put, but how they could be cinched up.
Ben can you use olive oil to moisten your leather strops? Thank you for your videos great stuff.
Have you solved the riddle? I would use mineral oil but I'm no expert.
use neatsfoot oil, it's made from cow bones and is the perfect thing for a cow's skin. Olive oil will turn rancid.
Will the loveless bolts act the same as a clamp during the glue up process? Will I still have to clamp the scales? I have always used straight pin stock and never used these.
Quagmire88 Don't be absurd! You can never have too many clamps! Clamp your clamps even, so they're nice and sturdy.. lol
Jk.
Honest, I'd probably throw a Clamp in between if the material is thin, soft, or you arent sure if its 100%flat just to get good contact. Although I'm sure you could get away with going clampless, especially with the corbys, as you can actually torque those down a bit.. but still.. more clamps never hurt lol
Clamp all the things! 🔩🔪😄
Tighten clamp retighten. In short no, use clamps for best fit. Just remember to not tighten so tight you lose all your epoxy.
Qual você prefere? Loveless ou Corby bolts
Ben how do i order a knife from you???
Well darn my socks and call me grandpa... I'd really do well to have some more power tools for this DIY stuff. Shaving off the ends? At least I know how these Corby and Loveless bolts work now. =8/-DX
Torn on choice with your knives
For me i'd go the Loveless, much better idea fixture wise
I usually use nails that I peen to nice finish. Cheap and rustic.
Goddammit, I am trying to come up with a makers mark for my knives and wanted to use that exact symbol. Well back to the drawing board.
maybe you can do a tiger with bat wings and bug legs.
Gilberto Padilla I'll put it in the "maybe" pile...
Loveless bolts do not squeeze scales! The just hold them....
thats what I thought as well. Corby's will squeeze the scales, but loveless's will only hold them.
Yep, actually i tried make my own loveless like bolts with slot for screwing and they will hold and making of them is cheap as hell :)
... wrong
Pins don't only rely on the epoxy's adhesion if you know about peening. Look up "How to properly peen handle pins."
Thanks for the comment but these pins and Mosaic pins don’t get peened it’s not like peening pins on a slip joint etc.
if you did peen mosaic pins they would deform and look terrible.
It’s all about knowing the right skills for the right project and materials 👍
My adventure with the tree began with projects from Woodglut.
Thanks Ben.
ATB Mike
#StayCornish😬
Fankoo
Noif?
sex bolt are what i call them. also have you tried latigo for your leather work which will not cause sweat to hurt them.what sewing machine does your wife use.
Great clear explanation. Thank you.
So pleased you found it useful. Many thanks cheers Ben