evo's Richard Meaden puts the brand new Porsche Cayman GT4 through its paces. From the creators of the 911 GT3, watch the latest Porsche motorsport car on track and on road.
I never liked the Cayman, because it's rear looked like a sitting frog. This one is different, especially because of the big rear spoiler. It looks really good!
fwijffels Yes, go ahead and assume whatever you want to assume to confirm without any good reason whatever you assumed in the first place. Lame comeback you say? I kinda admit that, especially because I was never gone, you know... like when you didn't even read what I wrote... Me: "I never liked the Cayman, because it's rear looked like a sitting frog. This one is different, especially because of the big rear spoiler. It looks really good!" You: "Are you one of those dudes that always said 'Gayman' and never liked it because it was the poormans Porsche? And now saying it's cool because it has 380+hp? Are you that kind of a dude?" Where did you get I ever said "Gayman"? Where did I say it's the poorman's Porsche? Where did you get I like the new Cayman, only because of the new 385+ bhp? I *specifically* said it's the new rear spoiler that makes me like the new Cayman, because it doesn't look like the old Cayman's rear anymore, which looked like folded legs of a sitting frog, IMHO. And it's not even only the Spoiler, the rear's design is different also, just imagine the spoiler gone - there are still differences, you see. So now go crawl back into the hole you came forth from and don't ever come back until your dad teaches you how to read english.
fwijffels Yeah, I'm sorry for taking it "to seriously", clearly my english skills are lacking. Blame my english teacher in school. Next time I promise you I will try harder to guess whether or not you actually mean what you say or you just like to hear your own voice talking... my bad!
TheGetawayer i won't spam a link here Guido but you need to watch Chris Harris throw it around Portimao too and hear his in depth tech talk with Andreas Preuninger :)
altern8ive Seen that, but the drifting in all his video and being a ' hoonigan ' bores me to death. It's irrelevant to me and most people who actually buy the cars, at least from what I read on my vids. Evo also had a detailed interview with Andreas on here :)
TheGetawayer given the use of an empty track and some free tyres (which were also being tested) what would you have done? :) to be fair i thought he was quite restrained for once. out of the 5 minutes of in-car footage deliberate hooning only began through the final minute or so.
TheGetawayer Guido, i'd never accuse another reviewer of being a hater, far from it, we need more people with your enthusiasm on here. i've been sub'd to you for a long time so i know your brand of preference. I hope Porsche increase their allocation of cars for you to review this year because the 4 month gap between the GT3 and Macan was too big! :(
Why can't they make all sportscars/supercars like the Cayman GTS/GT4 ? Such a pure driving experience in modern terms, who cares about fast shifts and laptimes anymore.
I agree on the verdict that manual will be more for a drivers car and the difference will widen as the high performance cars will use double clutch gear boxes. I am fine with it, just keep the manual alive.
I love the usual nonsense being rolled out. It needs a bigger engine / it's underpowered - Honestly that's nigh on 400hp, in what world is that underpowered!? How much power can you actually use on the road? Saying that it could have 900hp and someone would complain because it doesn't have 1000. It needs a flappy paddles to make it faster - I think it was explained in the video that the GT4 is taking a different tack to the GT3. The GT3 is all about the numbers. The GT4 is an answer to people like me who are not as concerned with the numbers, who want a car to DRIVE, not to measure against other cars or the stopwatch. Basically who've been complaining that Porsche has forgotten about us. That's why it's got three pedals and a stick. But it's not like a race car! Flappy paddles are it - I have a race car, it has a sequential gearbox and it's marvellous. I also have a Cayman with a manual box, because quite frankly I like changing gear, and no one is timing me. When I drive on the road a few tenths is irrelevant when the enjoyment comes from the driving, not necessarily the speed. I've driven the PDK, it was dull because it was so efficient you just stuck it in auto and left it to it. With it doing all the work for you all you do is steer and brake... A Nissan GTR/Corvette is faster - Awesome. That's very nice, enjoy your Corvette and Nissan. You probably have a massive penis too, good for you. Live and let live. Also remember that not everyone has the same tastes as you, and for them a Corvette might not be as good a fit as a say a Porsche, or a Lotus, or whatever. If we all had the same tastes the world would be a boring place. Someone was calling for the RWS of the GT3 - RWS on the GT3 is to try and make a car with a load of weight behind the rear wheels handle like a mid-engined car. You don't need to cheat physics when the engine is already in the optimal position. Indeed the GT4 has adjustable ARBs if you want more turn in and a looser rear. No electronics doing it for you. Again, more reasons why I like this car. In the end it's moot anyhow as you can't buy one, certainly not in the UK as they're all sold. In which case the Corvette guys can enjoy their Vettes and I'll continue to enjoy my standard Cayman. Or we can both just log on to the internet and recycle the same old bullshit comments again and again. Which of course I've just done ;)
juansmeeth I just want you to know that another human being took the time to read this and understand your point of view. Your time typing was not wasted.
DZGunner Cheers. I read so much of the same thing over and over from people that don't accept that there are people out there with different tastes. Porsche took the time to make a car for those people and people slam it for not being a GT3. Which already exists...
juansmeeth Yeah people don't seem to understand that there is such a thing as variety in this world. There's too many factors like finance, what it's used for, preference, and so on. BTW, crossing my fingers for winning one of these in the Porsche raffle :)
Growing up as a kid in the 80's and 90's Porsche was my first love, but I haven't been excited by Porsche in many years now, wasn't till I saw the 918 did Porsche grab my attention. But now after seeing the Cayman GT4 I think I'm in love again.
amazing to think one of the worlds most fabled "drivers cars" has gotten even more demanding of the driver. As always porsche never disappoints. To think that this cayman demands even more of the driver is just beautiful that porsche engineering is still thinking steps ahead and willing to meet the high standards that drivers seek in a driving experience. With a classic manual gearbox to boot. I love that they have various options and applications to what the drivers seek in a car, and what various cars seek out of their drivers.
Richard did a good job trying to sell us on the manual transmission. But the fact remains...PDK is THE way to go these days. If any one is looking to reduce their lap times (assuming the owner actually does take their GT4 on a track...I bet less than 3% will) or if they plan to drag race them...then the PDK is THE way to go. Porsche knows it!! :) (e.g. GT3/GT3 RS, Turbo/S, 918 Spyder). What supercar doesn't have a dual-clutch trans these days?? How about professional racing (F1). Porsche NEEDs to put out a "GT4 S"...which includes PDK, w/ rear wheel steering...and 10 more HP. AWD would also be a good feature for people living in Canada or the east-coast (snow). This "base GT4" can keep those few who actually still like driving stick every day in commutes and city driving. All the stop go traffic. Stoplight to stoplight. Stick is no longer faster. Most of us know that. And if guys are buying sports cars for the SPEED and handling...
Great car and all, I'm glad we forum-jockeys finally have a "proper Porsche" to talk about, but here's one thing I don't get. The motor is supposedly from a Carrera S, yet the Carrera S has 400bhp, the GT4 has "only/mere" 380bhp. Why is Porsche still holding the Cayman down?
David Lewis I don't think, that there is a problem to get air into that engine. Just look how big those air intakes at the side are. They deliver enough for a big Turbo engine. But still, it ways 100kg less than the Carrera S, has the engine in the right place and has a way better chassi. It would have been awesome if they put all 400hp down the line, but I'm glad that they finnally put the 3.8 into the Cayman. Maybe the next generation will make the cars equal. But I guess, that Porsche will adjust the price tag too when that happens.
The motor is based on the Carrera S 3.8, Andreas Preuninger says in the other EVO GT4 video that they had to rework the crankcase and intake manifold to fit in the Cayman chassis which would effect the horsepower rating.
Power to weight ratio on a base Carrera S with a manual gear box is 7.68hp/lb while power to weight on a base Cayman GT4 is 7.77hp/lb. Just because engine power goes down doesn't mean it's performance does. Plus the cayman has a track focused chassis while the Carrera S doesn't. It's in no ways held back from a Carrera S, but it'll always stay a few steps behind the GT3/GT3RS, they're not going to make something that's cheaper superior to their top of the line 911 track cars.
Very nice review...One of the better sports cars out right now..I love that Porsche decided to use a manual..My only complaint would be a little low on HP but I also have not driven this ,sooooo : ) Anyway Great review..
You make a good point that the whole stick shift thing is not about paddles, but about rev-matching (i.e. heel-and-toe on downshifts). It's definitely part of the fun, ability, feel for the car and its engine and powerband that you need to be enjoying a real driver's car. It's a couple tenths slower than paddles but definitely more fun.
What an absolute beautiful car! I am totally in love with it. I would love to se a little bit more on how it is on the road. I've been driving the Cayman S and i love it to bits. But this is something else. Great job EVO!
Wow, I've been wondering and complaining about not getting a higher screaming engine, so thank you for explaining why we cant get the base gt3 engine in this...if they could have then this would by far be the best
Porsche's DINO investment car 20 years from now. With so few made, many crashed, this car is a collectible home run. The manual only gearbox for ALL GT4's puts this in its own class of Porsche GT models. Again, with 2016 prices in 2018 already over $105,000 for cars with 15,000 miles on them, I see this car running away from 100k faster than even new GT3's, which are depreciating. Few people realize this was a $85,000-$95,000 car brand new. In just 1 year, this car has APPRECIATED across the country with not a single one under $100,000 anywhere to be found. A point worth noting if you collect cars....for investing. Rarity, purity, good power, excellent interior, room to breathe, fun factor, manual-only gearbox, GT, this has nowhere to go but whatever GT4 owners want to sell them for....even back to dealers who kill to get them in.
Well, 997 GT3RS motors fit in the older Cayman body, it's been done. Imagine what that car must be like! I kinda like the Cayman R more a bit, looks smaller and prettier to me.
Cayman GT4: 385 hp @ 7400 rpm 309 ft-lbs of torque 2,955 lbs Top speed 183 mph 0-60 in 4.2 Cayman R: 330 hp @ 7400 rpm 273 ft-lbs of torque 2,855 lbs Top speed 175 mph 0-60 in 4.7
Nice vid, but while it's cool to see these cars powersliding around a circuit in all their redlining glory, there's some something endearing about seeing them in traffic. What's the GT4 road car like.. on the road?
Great review You nailed it !! Hats off to you, fine sir ! I feels sorry for the poor chap that compares his Vette to this car ... He just doesn't get it He prefers a plastic, over heating, rattle trap. I doubt he has over owned a Porsche. I was lucky enough to get to own this car, and it is all I could have asked for ... Would I like a few more HP....? (tell me what man wouldn't ) but the car is so well balanced!!
Plz give us Options to choose PDK. iam waiting for PDK to come to buy the car. Hope it Comes early as possible, every day iam checking on website for GT4 PDK.
Renaissance Man It will be interesting to see what percentage actually sell with a manual box, i am guessing not many will be the answer, I know youtubers and reviewers love manual boxes but they are not the ones who are spending their hard earned money
M3Conv To answer your question about manual take rate, they sold out of the GT4's before they were even officially announced. They're apparently only going to make a limited number of these and if you had waited until they officially revealed it you were too late! All you can do now is put yourself on a wait list and pray someone in front of you changes their mind or go through a broker that's getting one and pay a serious markup.
He said that you can't have a 991 Gt3 engine in a Cayman with a manual gearbox. Surely that's wrong? It might be a challenge but it would be worth overcoming it!
Ok so it sounds like a brilliant car, all round, but here's my question: Would it have been better with a 3.4L fettled with by Porsche Motorsports rather than the Carrera S's 3.8L?
A maxed out 3.4L will require many bespoke parts, which jack up the price and be edgier to use. A solid 3.8L is available off the shelf (meaning cheap to make), and with the headroom you can be sure it doesn't try to eat you alive each and every time you drive it.
Nanorisk Fair, but Porsche is not one to produce an engine that isn't reliable. And for the extra money you'd get the high revving shriek that would be spine tingling. I'm not complaining about what they did, but I think they could have done a bit more to make it even more magical.
The new gt3 really should have an option for a stick i mean i cant buy one of course but these new semi-auto in sense transmissions just take away from connecting with the car.
too bad that the clutch in porsches has about ten inches of travel. if this had the manual transmission feel (and clutch feel) of somehting like an S2000 it would be incredible. i never understood high performance cars with super long and mushy feeling clutch pedals and long throw shifters. i want a stick, but i want a great one. not just a third pedal and a rower. it's why i would get a pdk. clutch like a bmw, ick.
The GT4 is a great car, no doubt. But I think it isn´t for everbody... there is reason, that Porsche tries to put more and more models to the market...
The odd things watching all these GT3 and GT4 videos, is a total lack of actual track safety. On a track, the driver should have numerous things: windows should be down, helmet on, four point restraints, fire extinguishers, tires must meet track specs, etc., etc. Almost none of these reviews observe actual track safety and given how the cars are being driven, just a point to note. A great review but play it safe when on the track.
Someone here thinks his old Z06 is destroying this GT4 on a track... That's not true. The GT4 is about 5 seconds faster on the Nürburgring Nordschleife ... and the ZO6 is cheap plastic inside
The fact that Porsche implemented a PDK really dissapoints me about the future. The definition of Porsche is a Sports car not a luxury car (ie Ferraris and Lambos). Putting a PDK is literally hurting yourself because it is not what defines you and in fact conveys a sense of dishonesty to the Porsche image. Please dont use PDK or automatic transmission again Porsche, there are other companies that specialise in that and are better than you are at it....
the manual shift for all sport car is dead, why Porsche proposal this system? For me is not a good solution for this extreme car, I prefer the paddle shift: more fast, more funny, more modern...
Funny how 6MT is now a "new" & "different" thing... "changing gears and steering and braking all at the same time... it's an entirely new thing" LOLOL. Um, no it's an entirely old thing... which I love... but funny to see reviewers making such a big deal out of it... sad really...
No one can beat the Britts when it comes to talking about cars, it just suites them with all due respect to nations making great cars like Germany and Italy but the Britts knows what to say and how to say it. I always feel sick when I remember Top Gear USA presenters especially the fat one who think he is Clarkson...
how did you let Chris Harris beat you to uploading you GT4 review, he's blowing up! you shouldn't have fired him. I've been a big far of Evo and seen ur media productions mature nicely. Honesty I think Chris's GT4 review was more engaging, so much more energy than Dicky's, no disrespect to him as a driver!
I like Richard but this is a poor review. "It requires you to up your game." What does that mean? You didn't talk about the steering, you didn't comment on what tangible difference have the new suspension bits made. Don't give me just the specs. I can get them anywhere. Tell me what is different. Fail. 3/10.
Dickie had such a great softly spoken, mindful voice. Love his videos.
better than that chris fella who just shouts crap. jethro is awesome too.
I never liked the Cayman, because it's rear looked like a sitting frog.
This one is different, especially because of the big rear spoiler.
It looks really good!
fwijffels No, that was your uncle. I'm not your uncle. Wrong guy here.
Their cars have always have looked like frogs lol i.imgur.com/mlIa6A6.jpg
fwijffels Yes, go ahead and assume whatever you want to assume to confirm without any good reason whatever you assumed in the first place.
Lame comeback you say? I kinda admit that, especially because I was never gone, you know... like when you didn't even read what I wrote...
Me:
"I never liked the Cayman, because it's rear looked like a sitting frog.
This one is different, especially because of the big rear spoiler.
It looks really good!"
You:
"Are you one of those dudes that always said 'Gayman' and never liked it because it was the poormans Porsche? And now saying it's cool because it has 380+hp? Are you that kind of a dude?"
Where did you get I ever said "Gayman"?
Where did I say it's the poorman's Porsche?
Where did you get I like the new Cayman, only because of the new 385+ bhp?
I *specifically* said it's the new rear spoiler that makes me like the new Cayman, because it doesn't look like the old Cayman's rear anymore, which looked like folded legs of a sitting frog, IMHO.
And it's not even only the Spoiler, the rear's design is different also, just imagine the spoiler gone - there are still differences, you see.
So now go crawl back into the hole you came forth from and don't ever come back until your dad teaches you how to read english.
fwijffels to be fair mate, you did come off sounding more of a douchebag, one of the highhorse types.
fwijffels Yeah, I'm sorry for taking it "to seriously", clearly my english skills are lacking. Blame my english teacher in school. Next time I promise you I will try harder to guess whether or not you actually mean what you say or you just like to hear your own voice talking... my bad!
Fantastic video and to me with much more interesting comments on the car than what I saw in the other reviews so far !
TheGetawayer i won't spam a link here Guido but you need to watch Chris Harris throw it around Portimao too and hear his in depth tech talk with Andreas Preuninger :)
altern8ive
Seen that, but the drifting in all his video and being a ' hoonigan ' bores me to death. It's irrelevant to me and most people who actually buy the cars, at least from what I read on my vids. Evo also had a detailed interview with Andreas on here :)
TheGetawayer given the use of an empty track and some free tyres (which were also being tested) what would you have done? :) to be fair i thought he was quite restrained for once. out of the 5 minutes of in-car footage deliberate hooning only began through the final minute or so.
altern8ive
Not trying to be a hater by any means, but as a Porsche geek this video by EVO told me more about the car. I think its fair to say that :)
TheGetawayer Guido, i'd never accuse another reviewer of being a hater, far from it, we need more people with your enthusiasm on here. i've been sub'd to you for a long time so i know your brand of preference. I hope Porsche increase their allocation of cars for you to review this year because the 4 month gap between the GT3 and Macan was too big! :(
That is how a video about the GT4 should look like! Good job, Evo.
Why can't they make all sportscars/supercars like the Cayman GTS/GT4 ? Such a pure driving experience in modern terms, who cares about fast shifts and laptimes anymore.
I agree on the verdict that manual will be more for a drivers car and the difference will widen as the high performance cars will use double clutch gear boxes. I am fine with it, just keep the manual alive.
I love the usual nonsense being rolled out.
It needs a bigger engine / it's underpowered - Honestly that's nigh on 400hp, in what world is that underpowered!? How much power can you actually use on the road? Saying that it could have 900hp and someone would complain because it doesn't have 1000.
It needs a flappy paddles to make it faster - I think it was explained in the video that the GT4 is taking a different tack to the GT3. The GT3 is all about the numbers. The GT4 is an answer to people like me who are not as concerned with the numbers, who want a car to DRIVE, not to measure against other cars or the stopwatch. Basically who've been complaining that Porsche has forgotten about us. That's why it's got three pedals and a stick.
But it's not like a race car! Flappy paddles are it - I have a race car, it has a sequential gearbox and it's marvellous. I also have a Cayman with a manual box, because quite frankly I like changing gear, and no one is timing me. When I drive on the road a few tenths is irrelevant when the enjoyment comes from the driving, not necessarily the speed. I've driven the PDK, it was dull because it was so efficient you just stuck it in auto and left it to it. With it doing all the work for you all you do is steer and brake...
A Nissan GTR/Corvette is faster - Awesome. That's very nice, enjoy your Corvette and Nissan. You probably have a massive penis too, good for you. Live and let live. Also remember that not everyone has the same tastes as you, and for them a Corvette might not be as good a fit as a say a Porsche, or a Lotus, or whatever. If we all had the same tastes the world would be a boring place.
Someone was calling for the RWS of the GT3 - RWS on the GT3 is to try and make a car with a load of weight behind the rear wheels handle like a mid-engined car. You don't need to cheat physics when the engine is already in the optimal position. Indeed the GT4 has adjustable ARBs if you want more turn in and a looser rear. No electronics doing it for you. Again, more reasons why I like this car.
In the end it's moot anyhow as you can't buy one, certainly not in the UK as they're all sold. In which case the Corvette guys can enjoy their Vettes and I'll continue to enjoy my standard Cayman. Or we can both just log on to the internet and recycle the same old bullshit comments again and again. Which of course I've just done ;)
I am Yalanouz ...and yet you decided it was worth your time responding to it with a short inane comment... Bravo.
juansmeeth I just want you to know that another human being took the time to read this and understand your point of view. Your time typing was not wasted.
DZGunner Cheers.
I read so much of the same thing over and over from people that don't accept that there are people out there with different tastes. Porsche took the time to make a car for those people and people slam it for not being a GT3. Which already exists...
juansmeeth Yeah people don't seem to understand that there is such a thing as variety in this world. There's too many factors like finance, what it's used for, preference, and so on. BTW, crossing my fingers for winning one of these in the Porsche raffle :)
DZGunner
Porsche always surprises the automotive world! Another awesome beast!
Growing up as a kid in the 80's and 90's Porsche was my first love, but I haven't been excited by Porsche in many years now, wasn't till I saw the 918 did Porsche grab my attention. But now after seeing the Cayman GT4 I think I'm in love again.
amazing to think one of the worlds most fabled "drivers cars" has gotten even more demanding of the driver. As always porsche never disappoints. To think that this cayman demands even more of the driver is just beautiful that porsche engineering is still thinking steps ahead and willing to meet the high standards that drivers seek in a driving experience. With a classic manual gearbox to boot. I love that they have various options and applications to what the drivers seek in a car, and what various cars seek out of their drivers.
Richard did a good job trying to sell us on the manual transmission. But the fact remains...PDK is THE way to go these days.
If any one is looking to reduce their lap times (assuming the owner actually does take their GT4 on a track...I bet less than 3% will) or if they plan to drag race them...then the PDK is THE way to go. Porsche knows it!! :) (e.g. GT3/GT3 RS, Turbo/S, 918 Spyder).
What supercar doesn't have a dual-clutch trans these days?? How about professional racing (F1).
Porsche NEEDs to put out a "GT4 S"...which includes PDK, w/ rear wheel steering...and 10 more HP. AWD would also be a good feature for people living in Canada or the east-coast (snow). This "base GT4" can keep those few who actually still like driving stick every day in commutes and city driving. All the stop go traffic. Stoplight to stoplight.
Stick is no longer faster. Most of us know that. And if guys are buying sports cars for the SPEED and handling...
great honest review. seems like an amazing car.
Always loved the new Cayman! Definitely one of the best driver's cars.
This Cayman is a benchmark
I'm sure Richard knows what he's talking about but I'd have loved to see Jethro do a full road/track test and review.
A proper review. Well done, team EVO!
Dear Porsche, thank you for making this car. Most probably I'll never buy it or even drive it but I'm very happy it exists!
Pure drivers car
Great car and all, I'm glad we forum-jockeys finally have a "proper Porsche" to talk about, but here's one thing I don't get. The motor is supposedly from a Carrera S, yet the Carrera S has 400bhp, the GT4 has "only/mere" 380bhp. Why is Porsche still holding the Cayman down?
Yeah, not to mention X51 powerkit. Imagine 430HP in a Cayman GT4.
David Lewis I don't think, that there is a problem to get air into that engine. Just look how big those air intakes at the side are. They deliver enough for a big Turbo engine. But still, it ways 100kg less than the Carrera S, has the engine in the right place and has a way better chassi. It would have been awesome if they put all 400hp down the line, but I'm glad that they finnally put the 3.8 into the Cayman. Maybe the next generation will make the cars equal. But I guess, that Porsche will adjust the price tag too when that happens.
I agree, its a shame. On the other hand Chris Harris reviewed the car and the main porsche guy for the car said that it really has at least 400hp.
The motor is based on the Carrera S 3.8, Andreas Preuninger says in the other EVO GT4 video that they had to rework the crankcase and intake manifold to fit in the Cayman chassis which would effect the horsepower rating.
Power to weight ratio on a base Carrera S with a manual gear box is 7.68hp/lb while power to weight on a base Cayman GT4 is 7.77hp/lb. Just because engine power goes down doesn't mean it's performance does. Plus the cayman has a track focused chassis while the Carrera S doesn't. It's in no ways held back from a Carrera S, but it'll always stay a few steps behind the GT3/GT3RS, they're not going to make something that's cheaper superior to their top of the line 911 track cars.
Very nice review...One of the better sports cars out right now..I love that Porsche decided to use a manual..My only complaint would be a little low on HP but I also have not driven this ,sooooo : ) Anyway Great review..
You make a good point that the whole stick shift thing is not about paddles, but about rev-matching (i.e. heel-and-toe on downshifts). It's definitely part of the fun, ability, feel for the car and its engine and powerband that you need to be enjoying a real driver's car. It's a couple tenths slower than paddles but definitely more fun.
What an absolute beautiful car! I am totally in love with it. I would love to se a little bit more on how it is on the road. I've been driving the Cayman S and i love it to bits. But this is something else. Great job EVO!
Very well said Richard. Thanks
So which would any of you take? One of these new or a 997 or 997.2 GT3 used?
It's good to finally see the track of Algarve being using to at least show the new car models to the reviewers!
Car of the year!
Wow, I've been wondering and complaining about not getting a higher screaming engine, so thank you for explaining why we cant get the base gt3 engine in this...if they could have then this would by far be the best
Porsche's DINO investment car 20 years from now. With so few made, many crashed, this car is a collectible home run. The manual only gearbox for ALL GT4's puts this in its own class of Porsche GT models. Again, with 2016 prices in 2018 already over $105,000 for cars with 15,000 miles on them, I see this car running away from 100k faster than even new GT3's, which are depreciating. Few people realize this was a $85,000-$95,000 car brand new. In just 1 year, this car has APPRECIATED across the country with not a single one under $100,000 anywhere to be found. A point worth noting if you collect cars....for investing. Rarity, purity, good power, excellent interior, room to breathe, fun factor, manual-only gearbox, GT, this has nowhere to go but whatever GT4 owners want to sell them for....even back to dealers who kill to get them in.
Carrera GT then THIS! Looks awesome!
wish i could own one.
Great vid, great car. Thanks!
I’m happy with my old Cayman S but boy is the GT4 awesome!!
If this and a Cayman R were sitting in front of me, well I'd have a bloody hard time deciding which one to drive!
Well, 997 GT3RS motors fit in the older Cayman body, it's been done. Imagine what that car must be like! I kinda like the Cayman R more a bit, looks smaller and prettier to me.
And the "R" has hydraulic steering,
The new gt4 is definitely superior to the old cayman R in basically every single way. I wouldn't have a hard time choosing myself!
Cayman GT4:
385 hp @ 7400 rpm
309 ft-lbs of torque
2,955 lbs
Top speed 183 mph
0-60 in 4.2
Cayman R:
330 hp @ 7400 rpm
273 ft-lbs of torque
2,855 lbs
Top speed 175 mph
0-60 in 4.7
So the Cayman GT4 is slightly better, but the "R" version weighs 100 lbs less, and that can REALLY be felt when taking a tight corner...
What color was that? Red or Orange? Couldn't tell if just the filter of the camera.
EVO, think you guys should look into doing a GT4 vs Cayman R track battle/review in the near future!
Which color for that cayman?? Isn't a standard one?
Nice vid, but while it's cool to see these cars powersliding around a circuit in all their redlining glory, there's some something endearing about seeing them in traffic. What's the GT4 road car like.. on the road?
Sublime!
Speechless
Great review You nailed it !! Hats off to you, fine sir !
I feels sorry for the poor chap that compares his Vette to this car ... He just doesn't get it
He prefers a plastic, over heating, rattle trap. I doubt he has over owned a Porsche. I was lucky enough to get to own this car, and it is all I could have asked for ... Would I like a few more HP....? (tell me what man wouldn't ) but the car is so well balanced!!
epic video. What a car!
How can they let you on the track without a helmet unless your name is Vettel? Super dangerous. By the way, love the GT4
Plz give us Options to choose PDK. iam waiting for PDK to come to buy the car. Hope it Comes early as possible, every day iam checking on website for GT4 PDK.
+sarf naw Get a GT3 or a Cayman S. The whole point of this car was to have the manual for driver involvement and for purists.
It won't happen. Thank goodness.
Enjoyed this more than CHOC review! :)
awesome review there
I've heard that the GT3 engine lacks the low-end torque to integrate well with a manual gearbox.
Great car and great value shame they cant get their act together making the bucket seats. Far better than any Turbo charged incarnation
Great review
Can you still get it with a proper PDK gearbox?
Great video as usual guys
Why would you?
Renaissance Man
It will be interesting to see what percentage actually sell with a manual box, i am guessing not many will be the answer,
I know youtubers and reviewers love manual boxes but they are not the ones who are spending their hard earned money
M3Conv To answer your question about manual take rate, they sold out of the GT4's before they were even officially announced. They're apparently only going to make a limited number of these and if you had waited until they officially revealed it you were too late! All you can do now is put yourself on a wait list and pray someone in front of you changes their mind or go through a broker that's getting one and pay a serious markup.
I know this may not be the right place to ask, but does anybody know what name of that beat starting from 7:03 is? The new GT4 rocks by the way.
Good review :) Thanks
What its the brand he is wearing? Anyone?
He said that you can't have a 991 Gt3 engine in a Cayman with a manual gearbox. Surely that's wrong? It might be a challenge but it would be worth overcoming it!
1seipai It would rise the price. It's already expensive enough.
Dealers have jacked up the price on this vehicle, it is almost comparably priced as the GT3 already...
Lovely car!
Ok so it sounds like a brilliant car, all round, but here's my question: Would it have been better with a 3.4L fettled with by Porsche Motorsports rather than the Carrera S's 3.8L?
Actually, Meaden addressed this in detail from 4:40 to 5:40. Thanks for the excellent and thorough review!
But... what about that GT4 RS...? :)
A maxed out 3.4L will require many bespoke parts, which jack up the price and be edgier to use. A solid 3.8L is available off the shelf (meaning cheap to make), and with the headroom you can be sure it doesn't try to eat you alive each and every time you drive it.
Nanorisk Fair, but Porsche is not one to produce an engine that isn't reliable. And for the extra money you'd get the high revving shriek that would be spine tingling. I'm not complaining about what they did, but I think they could have done a bit more to make it even more magical.
Very nice...
Not one word on the steering. Come on Evo.
Nice review
Is that at Nurburgring GP/D
The new gt3 really should have an option for a stick i mean i cant buy one of course but these new semi-auto in sense transmissions just take away from connecting with the car.
Want one
great car.
3yrs later and it's still the only car I would trade my Cayman S for but I can't afford it! 😔
Epic car...
This or an M4, what to get myself for my 28th birthday?
What do you do for a living?
This by far!
i agree let them non drivers who want to brag about numbers an lap times drive they pdk leave the drivers to drive i want this
My new favorite car. Theyll never lose their value too...which means Ill probably never be able to afford one :(
the question to ask
did chris harris see this and make his review or evo saw his and made this review
either way, gt4 ftw
a real puristic car for real race drivers. not with pdk which is much more easily
LOL. This guy sounds like he's doing his groceries. You're sure he has fun in his job?
GT4's power and engine is probably restricted by the bosses because they don't want it to be better than the GT3
too bad that the clutch in porsches has about ten inches of travel. if this had the manual transmission feel (and clutch feel) of somehting like an S2000 it would be incredible. i never understood high performance cars with super long and mushy feeling clutch pedals and long throw shifters. i want a stick, but i want a great one. not just a third pedal and a rower. it's why i would get a pdk. clutch like a bmw, ick.
The GT4 is a great car, no doubt. But I think it isn´t for everbody... there is reason, that Porsche tries to put more and more models to the market...
Is now the Cayman better than 911 ?
Manual GB; fixed spoiler; great. Looks like it doesn't like to negotiate turns but to decimate em...ha ha ha. Good one PORSCHE.
Doesnt sound very nice does it?
The odd things watching all these GT3 and GT4 videos, is a total lack of actual track safety. On a track, the driver should have numerous things: windows should be down, helmet on, four point restraints, fire extinguishers, tires must meet track specs, etc., etc. Almost none of these reviews observe actual track safety and given how the cars are being driven, just a point to note. A great review but play it safe when on the track.
Cayman Gt4 vs Carrera Gt !!!!Battle of Porsche Mid Engine Machines
Love
The Meaden
Why in gods name is the GT4 a limited edition?? It MUST be so it won`t steal 911 Carrera S customers
I have it in Real Racing 3
Algarve!!!!
Far. this freaking ad is never ending!
Someone here thinks his old Z06 is destroying this GT4 on a track... That's not true. The GT4 is about 5 seconds faster on the Nürburgring Nordschleife ... and the ZO6 is cheap plastic inside
Dear Santa...
I'd buy this rather than any 911, sorry Porsche, and don't get me wrong!
G to the T with a 4..
So I take it Jethro got knocked out? haha
its not another level, but its another magnitude.
ok...
This car gives me the horn...
But really who would but this over a 911? Really...
The fact that Porsche implemented a PDK really dissapoints me about the future. The definition of Porsche is a Sports car not a luxury car (ie Ferraris and Lambos). Putting a PDK is literally hurting yourself because it is not what defines you and in fact conveys a sense of dishonesty to the Porsche image. Please dont use PDK or automatic transmission again Porsche, there are other companies that specialise in that and are better than you are at it....
the manual shift for all sport car is dead, why Porsche proposal this system? For me is not a good solution for this extreme car, I prefer the paddle shift: more fast, more funny, more modern...
HAHA YES!!
Funny how 6MT is now a "new" & "different" thing... "changing gears and steering and braking all at the same time... it's an entirely new thing" LOLOL. Um, no it's an entirely old thing... which I love... but funny to see reviewers making such a big deal out of it... sad really...
the Porsche cayman gt4sell your kids
Please stop crying about that newer cars, only are available in PDK. Every single reviews you have to mention this, get over it.
No one can beat the Britts when it comes to talking about cars, it just suites them with all due respect to nations making great cars like Germany and Italy but the Britts knows what to say and how to say it. I always feel sick when I remember Top Gear USA presenters especially the fat one who think he is Clarkson...
how did you let Chris Harris beat you to uploading you GT4 review, he's blowing up! you shouldn't have fired him. I've been a big far of Evo and seen ur media productions mature nicely. Honesty I think Chris's GT4 review was more engaging, so much more energy than Dicky's, no disrespect to him as a driver!
I like Richard but this is a poor review. "It requires you to up your game." What does that mean? You didn't talk about the steering, you didn't comment on what tangible difference have the new suspension bits made. Don't give me just the specs. I can get them anywhere. Tell me what is different. Fail. 3/10.
I've never liked Porsches and i don't like this one either. It just looks like any other Porsche. #noimagination