Hardest Ski Run in Europe? - Grand Couloir Courchevel
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Grand Couloir in Courchevel is often touted as the hardest ski run, the hardest ski piste, in Europe. Grand Couloir is not pisted at the top, but the area is secured, meaning that it is shown as a black run on a piste map. Note that in Europe there is no such thing as a double black diamond, you get black, and that's it! At some parts the run is 38.6 degrees, or 80%, steep. Is it the steepest ski run in Europe? But the real question is, did you see the rubber duck?
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But did you see the rubber duck?
saw it at 4:30 on the red bumper
What board do u recommend for someone 6’3 250lb versatile, carving, park all mt @Malcolm Moore
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@@komranbehbehani6379 YES Standard.
Amazing run, really like your channel. What you could try as the camera never shows the steepnes just hold a key or anything tangeling with your hand as compareson. Can`t imagine how steep it acctualy is.
It’s insane how the GoPro always makes it look less steep than it really is
and the board, looks like a toothbrush thick... 😂
not only go pro. even my own eyes deceive me. once I drop and I am on a steep run, I can't tell how steep it really is. Once I Am at the bottom I look back (just as Malcom did on this video) and I'm like wow...I really did that steep run...
How to tell any run is hard? Malcom with all his experience and fitness level huffs and puffs down the portion of it doing 13km/h. That tells you a lot. Great video, nice to be able to see parts of the mountain where I'll never get to, realistically :D
3:45 just in the middle. It never fails.
Madness, the path to the Couloir looks harder than the Coulour itself. Im pretty sure La Chavanette/Swiss Wall, Harakiri, Kandahar and Streif and are all steeper. Dope snowboarding as always, flying down that like it was nothing!
I agree that harakiri looks steeper, not really many rocks on it tho
@@henrybreen According to Wikipedia the Harakiri has 78% "only", so is less steep.
And yes, due to being groomed, having no rocks on it nor to the sides and the steep part being shorter, gently getting less steep, it to me looks less intimidating.
@@elho001 my mistake, the others still stand, Kandahar is 92% and Streif 85%. I also forgot Gamsleiten 2 which hits 100%.
@@urlauburlaub2222 Of course, length and profile of the slope do matter. Both for how intimidating/steep they look, which was what being discussed, and also how difficult it is, simply because something low consequential and very short like the Harakiri, makes both sliding it down on your butt - as can regularly be observed there - as well as going some short steep part a bit faster than planned, knowing the absence of any bumps and the gently flattening section afterwards will allow you to safely stop, valid exit strategies that you likely survive unharmed. (I still would only ever take a run, if those were very unlikely worst-case scenarios).
There definitely are a lot more less skilled snowboarders that made it down the Harakiri one way or another than there are for the Sauliere Couloirs.
Mind you, this is snowboarding, not skiing. And while the last skis I ever used, were the 80s type reaching up to the top of ones head (if not higher, to "grow into" them, as a kid), I can attest you, that both riding moguls as well as pure (and from a skiers perspective trivial) straight lining is a lot easier on skies than on a snowboard.
I guess you state the carvers being easier for the Couloir because they are shorter and more willing to turn?
While a snowboard is arguably easier to jump-turn than long skis, as a skier you still leverage the mogul to your advantage to ease the turning and being predominantly generated by skiers, their spacing does fit that movement pattern - on a snowboard, however, the mogul only only gets in your way, maintaining your balance becoming the biggest challenge with the incline permanently and wildly changing in all directions.
I find it an interesting challenge, and like the fact that you need to plan a couple of turns ahead and find the arrangement of moguls that you can best fit a turn in (much like in tight trees, which are fun for that reason), the vast majority of snowboarders shy away from even the most mellow black run, if it is a mogul field and consequently would rather go for the Harakiri than that, if they were forced to choose.
The harakiri was not that bad actually. First did it when i was 12
I like your video so much because of what you give of information while you are snowboarding plus not putting music make us hear the natural sound of snowboarding in the nature Weldon
Thanks Hamad 🙌
That top section looked really scary and steep despite the gopro effect. That fast middle section going at 90km/h was as scary too!
The path from the saulire gondola to the couloir proper is devilishly steep and narrow. It really sucks on tracked out days, luckily mr. MM got half decent conditions - though it’s a run that is never to be taken lightly. I lived in Le Praz for 3 years, skied and snowboarded for a good few years, and it took 2 of them to work up the beans to take the plunge!
i have skiing since 2 years old, i am 16 now, the first time I did this run was as 9 y/o
The amount of control you have even in iceville conditions on an 80% incline is the ultimate flex dude 💪👌🤙inspiration for sure.
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Added to favs. And shared with mates. Respect for riding the first bit. I’d be walking that for sure!! Wide Angle lenses never truly show the gradient. I’m thinking way steeper than it looked. I’d love to do this next time I’m in the big C. Great vid
Cheers 🙌
Unless you have some crampons, walking would have the much higher risk to kill yourself. If you feel more secure on foot than a snowboard on a steep slope, then this is not for you yet.
Sure, it may be hard and steep, but did you overtake 200 skiers? NO!
Haha not this time 🤣
I really like the format of these riding videos. The first-person perspective for an entire run makes me feel like I'm playing a video game.
4:34 lol some people just stand weird.. Stupid sexy flanders!
Geez that looked sketchy as hell at the top - and the middle section didn’t look much better either !! Never done that run…
Another great vid !!
Dude, it looks like triple black +++! ⚫⚫⚫ Your legs must have burning after that ride.
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@@malcolmmoore Off topic. Did you see the run of Kevin Backstrøm at Natural Selection? Boy, oh boy! Straight fire!
I didn't see the rubber duck but that was a siiiick run Malcom! I'm frothing for my trip now!!
Wow, while I know the GoPro makes it look less steep, that still looks like an insane run, even on the video. That beginning section 😳😳😳😳. Speaks to your skill, nicely done! You were flying 90 km/h!!!
also 3 valleys is top of my list to visit when I'm able to, but there isn't much footage of people riding the sick terrain there. This has definitely reaffirmed my desire to go there, keep doing these videos of the difficult stuff man they will get tons of views! Tunnel went viral for that reason I think! All the difficult terrain vids are skiers unless it's trav rice in AK usually ha.
Haha, yeah that's the plan, could do with another viral vid 🤣
Yikes, that chopped up snow on the steeps felt as scary as the gradient. Would love to see a first tracks run on this slope.
Yeah it would be awesome in fresh snow!
Had my first snowboard lesson last Saturday, most fun I’ve ever had ever
I’m on my 3rd… Hooked as well!
I did this couloir in the 90's. No 360 camera, no phones, ... Saw someone crash after he had rolled for a while and broke a leg, and waited until I saw help: an ESF teacher saw it happen and reached out. The most scary part is the path to the couloir.
On the top of the mountain there's also a black slope which is on the left side, which goes under the egg shaped lift and descends to Meribel.
This one!
ua-cam.com/video/uZQJzRUxlnY/v-deo.html
Great video, What a leg burner that run is.🤘
That looks like it would be fun to ski. I get the sense that the camera is flattening the appearance of the terrain.
Yeah, it's pretty steep, would love to get first tracks down there!
Well done mate. The top half was so choppy.
Too bad gopro head cam footage makes it seem the slope isn't that steep. But judging Malcolms lines, it truly is steep :-)
Fresh snow needed big time by look and sound of it.
Nice. If it made you huff and puff then I wonder what it would do for the rest of us! Shame the camera doesn’t portray the real difficulty.
W0W that was amazing
Love the speed / altitude / route overlay. Which camera / editing software do you use?
GoPro 10, then a gps watch to record the data accurately, then garmin virb edit software
Love the effort being put into these videos. Another level up
Did this last week, the first ridge is not hard technically but the fact you’re so close to the drop makes it way more tense. If you don’t stop from top to bottom which i didn’t it kills you legs, couldn’t feel them for a good while 😂. Definitely a run to do in good conditions
Looks like fun big mountain riding.
90km/h! Crazy!
Respect… and mostly on ice.. too wow 😯
I loved it, would really like to ride/ski that run someday. WOW
My toxic trait is thinking that I could do this faster than him
Haha 😄
I skied this when a full 3 Vallee lift pass was £300, I am 73 now and can only dream.
Jeez.What happens if someone goes off the side of the ridge at the top??
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If he goes off right at the start of the ridge, then he is going to ride the Couloir sous Pylons (also: Couloir sous les Cables), if he goes off towards the end of the ridge, he is going to ride the Couloir Emile Allais.
I love watching the HUD over the video, it would be great to add your heart rate. Great content! hope that one day can meet you on the slopes!
Now that’s more like it! You did sound like you had a bit of a 5p/50p moments halfway down the top section though?Lol. Nice one Malcolm
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Either the hardest or the last run in your life🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Looks fun! Conditions made it look tricky
Your shadow really showed how hard you were working. Great stuff MM.
There a mogul run in Verbier I think called Tortin that is steep as hell and has moguls the size of minis, which is a joke. They're so big you pretty much can't even turn over them.
That run would be ace on a powder day.
Yeah someone else mentioned that run, I'll have to check it out
Why are those ski Muppets standing in the middle of the run on the back side of a run? Brainless.
They always seem to stand there for reasons that evade me as well.
The only type I like more, is those that clearly look uphill at you as you are about to ride past them just to then start moving straight into your line after probably standing there for 10 minutes...
@@elho001 LOL, 100%.
Standing on the landing of a big jump is another fav! Suicidal nutters.
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Looks pretty easy up until the 15 sec mark :)
Saw your comment on the other guys' skiing Grand Couloir video, and here you deliver. Smooth 😁
Haha, yes! Lol, I went across with him to do it, he's actually stood at the bottom of the run when I get down. 😂
My quads are burning just watching this video…
3:41 Why... WHY must there always be those morons who sit / stand at the middle of the F run...???
WHY, just why??? Is it truly soo hard to move to the right side... >
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Grand Couloir is just from 0:45 to around 3 minute mark, then it's simply Combe-Saulire / Téléphone red runs...just saying, title is a bit misleading.
New Title: Grand Couloir (from 0.45 to around 3 mins) then another piste afterwards, that if you do Grand Couloir you will also then do, but it is not Grand Couloir, its a different one. 👍
@@malcolmmoore Or just use the fact to your advantage and name it Grand Couloir in 2:15. 😉
Man…too dangerous…
Nope! Pat ma Shants watching this😬 Respect🤙
Pat ma shants 😂
The snow looks half decent there, when I did it there were moguls the size of cars
Yeah, it wasn't bad at all, I imagine it can get pretty bad!
I think I'd ask to go back down on the lift 🤣🤣🤣
I don’t know about Europe, I’ve never boarded there, but whistler/blackcomb definitely has a bunch of runs that’ll rival that. Kickinghorse too, Goat’s Eye at Sunshine. Probably lots more I’ve yet to try.
Yeah kicking horse is pretty fun!
The ridge reminds me of the ridge after Stairway chair in Kicking Horse
Incredible riding! can you please make a video on how to snowboard on icy runs? I got stuck on an icy slope & found it really hard to slow down or stop.. 🙃
Yeah I'm getting requested for this video so will be making it soon!
getting stressed out watching it
I really want you to make a video about your gear. Props for being the most useful and entertaining snowboarding channel I've ever come across and I'm glad I did. Can't wait to use some of your techniques when going to the alps next week.
Thanks, I actually just filmed that video it should be up soon!
Oh boy do I miss Courchevel :(
Nice video 📹 👍
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Malcom , I am able to do single pencil line when carving on mellow green runs then once I am doing steeper terrain , it becomes a skidded turn. Is it possible to still do a pencil line carve when doing blue runs or harder runs ? Also how can I improve my carving for stepper runs. Thank you !
You can carve steeper runs bit it'll be harder. You need to have a really good edge hold at higher speeds and with more pressure going through the board. You'll also want to be able to really lean into the turn to pull the board around in a tighter arc. And it will be made far easier if the snow is good!
Here is how you do it with softboot ua-cam.com/video/PDvinfym2Lk/v-deo.html
and here with hardboot ua-cam.com/video/b_OIZkgsc2k/v-deo.html
I have been in Zinal a few time and believe me,the Barthelemy is really steep.
How do you get that trail map in your video? Do you make and add it yourself? Or is there a program/ is it go pro's program?
Garmin Virb Edit, it's free, but you'll need something to record the GPS data first. You can do it on a gopro but it's not very accurate, I use a suunto 9 baro.
Malcolm, when you film yourself, I notice you use an El Grande stick. Where do you store it when you're not filming and you're snowboarding? Can it fit in your pockets?
On one of my jackets it can but its a bit big, I normally just stash it somewhere when I'm done using it
Great! Thanks for the reply! Yes I’m thinking of getting one because you have inspired me to film myself snowboarding but I’m just thinking about the logistics.
Beautiful run! But nothing compared to Extreme Runs in the North American West.
Nice, but my question is why do most Europeans stay on piste? Those snow conditions would only exist here about an 1 hour after opening on a powder day. 2 hrs and it's couch sized moguls
The entry section looks horrible in terms of getting over this narrow part. Could you do one more run, this time with your X3 in 360° mode and a chest heart rate monitor on? 🙂
Is teaching how to self-arrest a thing with snowboarding and skiing? It should be a mandatory skill considering the terrain at the beginning of the run. If you do a booboo on that part, you might end up sliding or tomahawking a long way down.
Great Video! Have you ridden the big kahuna board from amplid? And what is your thought on the dada after owning it for a while now?
Gotta be honest, it only looks tough because of the sketchy conditions...if there's 2 feet of fresh I'm bombing that thing
3:36 👀 90km/h. cool cool
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Pff that just looks like Glen Coe but with about 80% more snow XD
holy shit, youve reached 90 km/h on that board
How were your gorpo settings with the video?
4k superview 30fps, chest mic combined with some gopro audio
The question is not how many times but how i do the run
Rubber Duck at 4:30
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Question about technique - When you were going fast and straight on the flat surface, do you still switch edges or are you able to ride on a flat deck? Does a wide board help in riding flat?
I always fear catching an edge if I ride flat.
That ridge at the top looks way too narrow! Me, I’d walk that 🐓🐔😄
It looks far more intimidating in person
That snow looked and sounded sketchy.
damnn conditions were great that day
The path to the couloir seems miserable the route itself at least at that time seems not that hard honestly. There much less grippier, steeper routes that are harder because of that fact. Maybe this route becomes much worse later in the year.
Like always, the hardest part in skiing is to ski through the rough trails left behind from hundreds of other skiers before you.
surely europe has steaper than 38.6°. jackson hole has plenty of stuff north of 50°
Yeah its got steeper stuff, but generally it will then just be classed hors piste
Respect Malcolm, Respek.
I've stood on top of that run many a times, never being able to summon the courage to take it on, but you made it look easy.
Did you feel any fear at all?
91km/h Malcolm. My legs were getting tired watching that....., great run.
I took it yesterday and indeed I shat myself on the couloir before. The rest was pretty awesome
I went along the ridge at the top a short way and turned back !! I have done the Chavenette but not this.
Looks like Malcolm know the area very well even where the rocks are on his heelside turn. Very confident riding and technique, if I booked a lesson I’m going to follow Malcolm through this run!
With some fresh pow on top it wouldn’t be too bad. That looked like a lot of work.
Which GoPro is this ?
All the most dangerous things appeared to be man made.
So satisfying.
this is fun to watch :) love your pace and skill.
Hi. Where are you giving snowboard lessons?
Alpe d'Huez in France 🇫🇷 all my info in the video description 👌
Not too bad luck with the conditions - sure tracked out, but you found a line close to the rocks.
Still have it on the TODO list myself - first time I was there, conditions were quite bad, I faced truly icy moguls reaching up to my shoulders on the notably less steep Bosses run in Meribel (not to be confused with the yet less steep Bosses run in Courcevel) that made that more of an annoyance rather than fun, thus I passed on the Couloirs - only makes sense if its enjoyable.
When I was there early this season, there was quite fresh snow, but it came along with very high avalanche risk, most of the lesser black runs remained closed half of the week. And the Sauliere gondola was not running at all while I was there.
Well, one day I'll be lucky with the conditions...
You sure like to point it. 😆 I like to go for the tighter carves rather than the raw speed, looking at my wavy tracks of the Combe de la Sauliere, fastest I went there consequently was 68.5 km/h.
But I had to smile, seeing you take exactly the same route after the slow sign as I did, cutting all the way over to the less frequented right side of the slope. 😀
I normally don't point it as much, it's more a style I adopt for these videos so they don't go on too long!
Yooo this is crazy! I actually was in 3 Vallées last week:)
Perfect run, respect.Would you be so kind to tell me what kind of spray color have you use for the warpig.Regular or for car bumpers flexible.Sister in law want new one for 50eur.Thanks, would be nice to measure gforce while carving, that is where the fun is.Ride on safe✌🏻
Just a gold spray paint 😀
Not as exciting as I thought it would be to be honest
The go pro makes it look a lot less steep than it actually is
dude, I guaranty you're not skiing down an 80% run...
Percent and degrees are different, and different countries use one or the other. 100% means a 1:1 ratio, such as 1m across for 1m drop, which makes a 45 degree slope a 100% slope. This makes an 80% slope just under 39 degrees, which is perfectly normal for a steep ski run. I imagine you commonly use degrees and not percent, hence the confusion. If I said I was riding an 80 degree slope, then yes you would be correct!
Breathtaking. Absolutely incredible
I was there last month. Got off the lift, stared down at the run and said to myself "Never in my life". Kudos to you. It's crazy that you went from 13km to over 80 at the end of the stretch.
Haha yeah you're definitely not the only person to do that!
nice run. Edgy start then it's a blue run
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