How can you define that anyway? A mogul field is just the result of people skiing there - any slope with snow can become a mogul field if plenty of people ski on it...
@@diabl2master I don't know where you tend to ski, but in France these kind of black run steep mogul field sections are quite distinct. In Austria or Italy they would not even think about marking these as a run.
Very impressed by your attitude towards other skiers not as good as yourself. Most people’s comments would very arrogant and put them all down but your comments were very humble, understanding and kind. Thank you on their behalf and simply thank you for being such a decent human being, quite a rarity in modern society where so many see the only way to feel good about themselves is by putting other people down. You good sir are a true gem and I pray that goodness and mercy follow you all the days of your life. 😎👍
Often times it's not about putting them down. Learning is fine pushing yourself is great, getting so far in over your head that you don't belong and are a danger to yourself and others evokes the more harsh comments especially as a first responder.
Thanks for the video. This track is a "great" souvenir for me. But not necessarily a good one ! I've taken this track once, thirty years ago. Some friends told me that I was skilled enough to do it, and in my early 20s, I was fool enough to listen to them. The initial wall after the tunnel is just terrifying, not only because the slope is steep, but because the bumps are harsh, and the video doesn't necessarily show at which point. I was not skilled enough, contrary to my friends beliefs. I fell after a few meters and, as the snow was icy, I went to the down of the wall on my ass. Literaly. Fortunately my skis had taken off. But the problem with uncontrolled gravity, is that even when I tried to control my freefall, my head was heading down, and I was afraid that my head could hit a bump with disastrous consequences. Miraculously, when my uncontrolled slide ended, I stood up, and... Nothing. No injury. No contusion. A crowd of skiers saw my fall and came to me. All were very surprised to see that I had rigorously nothing. A ski monitor brought back my skis, asked me some questions (to verify my consciousness, I suppose) and then I could follow the rest of the track, which is much easier. I've never tried again this track. I've enjoyed many other places, I've improved my skiing abilities, but, no, definitely, I can't imagine to do it again. Don't try it if you're not a very good skier. Especially if the snow is icy.
Done the same mate 20 years ago in my early twenties 2 of my mates turned back and 3 of us fought what the hell we will have ago spent more time on my ass than skiing Moguls everywhere glad I did it tho never again lol
I took a similar route for experienced people by accident when I was still a noob and ended going full speed down without falling and everyone was staring at me....damn nice feeling
Back when I was was younger my school went to a ski trip most of 7s could not ski and learned it along the way. But one of my class mates used to do super ski when he was a child but for some reason he did not mention that, he only told us that he could ski. The look of the teachers when he went on the black route and went down there blasting was quite a sight.
This is in really good condition compared to when I did it. The entry intro the run was so cut up and moguled it was tricky to get onto the run. Once passed that very top section headed far left and then pretty easy.
I am only here for the comments from the Americans, all of whom have MUCH steeper slopes in their grannies' backyards, which they ski MUCH better and for whom this is absolutely a walk in the park. On a sunny Sunday morning.. :):) P.S. This dude is superhuman. Rossi Soul 7 (or whatever these are) are the absolute last ski I'd take for this kind of run. Excellent!
😁👍👍👍 Btw - description from a travel agency: Alpine slopes vary from beginner to extreme level, but the average vertical drop here makes all North American slopes look like they’re made for beginners... Ok - not for everything and everyone, but besides some extreme highlights like corbets couloir etc. probably not completely wrong either... Stay safe...
Excellent! Thanks for sharing this. It is on my bucket list to ski the Alps in France. Maybe Courchevel? I skied a bit at a place called Gerlitzen in Austria when I was in college. Its been my dream to go back to the Alps
Seeing the actual ski track after 15 years.. i lived in Grenoble for work, visited alp dhuez thrice went up just for the view... never had confidence to do even the simplest tracks .. always wondered how it was... Thanks..
Thank you so much for sharing this! I am too chicken to go skiing I never learned it when I was young and I have tremendous fear of skiing now that I am an adult and in my 50s. Thank you so much for taking me down the slope without me breaking my legs LOL! :-)
I’ve skied The Tunnel run a number of times and it is steep. The worst thing was the very initial ledge outside the tunnel that was often sheet glass like ice, so better to get through that quickly. It was also this run where i saw for the first time skiers jumping in people who had fallen to stop them sliding right down to the bottom of the hill and injuring themselves.
Im not a good skiier, but I have done that run. I found, as you said, the first, steap bit challanging. After that, not too bad. Nice that you have a good attitude - for me and many others its a valuable learning experience!
Very impressive skiing skills at the start. It looked as though your where leaning back. I have skied a few black runs, I find it's best not to dwell, just pick your line and go. As others have said, great respect to you on others who might not be as good as yourself.
I'd love it if they put that on the sign at the top of the run. "The Tunnel - steepest black run in France, maybe. Or the Alps. Or something. Who knows?"
Nah its only 35° lol, there are a plenty of steeper runs. For example in Switzerland I can name like at least 4 steeper runs (mt. fort, gentianes, tortin, chavanette)
@@fredwells7403 Harakiri is 38 degrees and pure ice. When you fall you’re not stopping until you reach the bottom (luckily it is straight tho so no problem really). Lift also runs just to the side of it so always fun to watch other people slide down 😅
@@christian_suys Theres sometimes that one unfortunate skier who wipes out so hard it’s like the entire world goes silent and time stops for a moment -even for those of us watching from the lift. Those are like whoa 😳 But yeah totally some of the more common yard-sale wipe outs are just part of the fun.
Thanks for the video! I was there several years ago and that area was closed for some reason. I was quite disappointed not to do it. Seems nice, but not something I never seen before. Maybe next time...
Just booked for March 2024 (La Plagne) so like every year its time for my pilgrimage to this video to increase the anticipation! Looking forward to your US content again this year.
The entry can vary enormously .. from heavily rutted and moguls to fairly benign .. looked like this was ok .. as you drew attention.. the hardest part is often avoiding the debris of humans littered across the slope. You made it look effortless.
Thinking back to when I used to ski 40 years ago I’m pretty sure that it’s only an eight-year-old that could run it straight down. Those little kids with their 3 foot long skis and no poles going down triple Black diamond trails were a sight to behold.
First time I did the tunnel my instructor took us down the couloir just beyond where you turned. It was crazy but I turn my brain off when following an instructor!!!
A very long time ago you could, when geting out of the tunnel, "jump" directly in the slope or even going left to get a more comfortable and not over riden line ( when and if the snow was soft enough ).
I remember doing this in 1984. I was one of those skiers standing around on the slopes, contemplating my mortality. An acute sense of self preservation. Took me 30 minutes to do what you did in about 20 seconds. Mind you, I remember when I did it the moguls were YUGE :-).
I just came home from skiing in Pitztal, it was my favourite holiday because I was with my friends but the only problem is I'm really dissapointed by how easy the blacks were, I kinda just did them like I'd do red slopes. But after seeing this I want to go to Alpe D'Huez!
That was a very British run ;-). There was a time black runs gave me the chills until i learned the importance of making good poll plants! Go as fast or as slow as you want.
So useful to get a video where we learn how to ski AND how to be polite, great human being. Have you thought about opening a ski school? It may be really useful to people not as good as you who don’t lean back far enough have too much flow between their turns. Or maybe those people just have narrower skis that are much more appropriate to the conditions. I’m sure they could do with the help.
Nice video! I guess the camera angle doesn't do the actual steepness justice. I'm only an amateur skier, only done very modest or short black runs so far. I've stood atop the "Swiss Wall" though in France, which is a "orange" run between France and Switzerland (orange because it is too hard to be classified using the standard system). That thing was scary as hell. It has a 40 degree drop over the first 50 meters, and drops 331m over it's total length of just 1000 meters (which translates to 33% average drop I guess?). Apparently, the tunnel run has an average decline of 35%, which actually makes it even steeper than the "Swiss Wall". Insanse stuff.
I think some of these stats are a little off. Most black runs are around 22 degree which is about 40-50% (100% being 45 degree) so that run would be around 15 degree or a red run. So probably the vertical drop is higher or the slope shorter if its more than a black run. Maybe you measure the skiable length and not the horizontaI travel? In offpiste skiing then the steepest slopes are around 55 degree and normal runs are 30-40 degree. But even steep black runs can seem (and is) intimidating, especially when one does not have something else to compare it to.
Went down this in January just gone, the layout and condition of the run has changed massively to this video. The first initial 3rd of the run is barely skiable as the run is as wide as the length of a ski. But if you go duex alpes it’s a souvenir to say you have ski down it
Moguls .... My arch nemesis 😆 I'd either be the person headed back through the tunnel or the girl at the top realising there's nowhere to turn 😆 I did le tunnel in La Plagne, although that's a blue, far more my scene 😂
The Harikiri is steeper but is also pisted so maybe easier? The moguls as you leave the tunnel always put me off which is a shame as the piste below is incredible. Looks like you had the perfect combo of quiet, good snow and blue sky. 👍
According to geodata it has maximum slope 89%, average 29% - definitely in the steepest club. In comparison: Face de Bellevarde in Val d'Isere - 96%/33%; Grand Couloir in Courchevel - 80%/41%; GoPro Couloir in Courchevel - 86%/47%; Harakiri in Mayrhofen - 83%/34%; Corbet's Couloir in Jackson Hole - 97%/45% (but it's actually a drop off).
Does anyone remember the Furggen in Cervinia? It was a crazy old cable car that went into the side of a cliff. You had to walk through a tunnel to (what seemed to me at the time) a very steep piste. The cable car was closed in 1993 as it was too dangerous and costly to repair.
@@halloblade1 Pas des Chavenettes was a "normal" black run but back in the 90's at least, the start was a 2 metre, vertical drop in. The Swiss just don't care...For them it's normal.
I thought he was gonna say conditions are bad and that’s when I realized how amazing skiing in Colorado is lmao. Also there’s some 90% slopes in Colorado as well I’m not brave enough for those, but I’d definitely do this one!
Its alpine face 3000m above sea level. What do you expect? This isn’t Utah or Colorado bro, conditions in the Alpes are not endless powder, often there is no new snow for like two weeks and the moguls are the size of cars
I never knew this was the steepest black in the Alps. I did this when I was 12/13 with some friends and my dad with next to zero visibility, fading light and moguls that were as tall as me. Looking back now I can't believe I managed it!
Look mate, great run, good camera work, on quite icey snow. But you can improve your turns a lot by keeping you shoulders turned towards the valley. I see your valley arm creeping into view quite often at the end of the turns, making the turns a little too long, putting your balance a little too far back on your skis (I know, because I have the tendency to do so myself, when it gets a little harder). If you keep your shoulder facing square down, only your hips & knees need to turn & your turns will get shorter, giving you more control. Anyway, looks like a fun run. I think I did this one when I was nine or so, with more moguls (I think it actually makes it a little easier, as you can ski up against them, as you ski down the fall line).
Thanks for the tips. To be honest I am overdue to have some sessions with an instructor and correct some bad habits. Haven’t really worked on technique since 2010 or so. Once you are at a certain level it is easy to just go with it and not bother to try and advance your technique. And yeah the moguls are normally bigger, I did it when I was young too, with big moguls
Nice to read constructive and polite advice! I’ve skied in Holidayed and skied in Austria for more than 35 years and I can relate to everything you say also I was just watching Angel Collinson an extreme big mountain skier doing her thing in Alaska and that I can appreciate but can’t so I’m that good and never wanted to be as it has made a short life for so many of them! Stay safe
Neva mean powder ski,indeed with these mellow bananas its sliding all the way, An indeed this guy needs lots off tecnique lessons,but he,he has fun so why bother....
How does this compare to Tortin in Verbier? Its said to be one of the hardest (piste) runs in Switzerland. I have done it many times and can be difficult at times depending on snow conditions and ice.
I have the same question as wel. Altough the piste you are referring to is called chassoure-tortin. It is often called Tortin(i called it that too for a long time)or chassoure. The start of it can be really steep especially when it has been a busy season.
The Sarenne I’m pretty sure is the longest run in Europe. It’s tough and I think it took over half an hour to complete. Average speed was 80km/h for me as I only did it once on a day trip from neighbouring Les Deux Alpes. It’s very scenic, probably one of the most scenic I’ve ever done. It’s definitely a run you want to do relatively early in the day. Just as the sun shines above the mountain, and before the moguls start to form. The fact it is icy in the morning and slushy late season with the sun beating down in the afternoon makes it difficult and you definitely need to time it right to ski there without running into these. Best time to do it I would say is late-December to early-March when the snow is there to stay.
Spoiled out here in the states. Checking the incline % this is pretty stock standard with regards to harder mountains "steepness" The snow conditions and moguls make that look super unfun however, hah. Also I am amazed at your patience, I was annoyed with those people just watching the video.
In the Alps the terrain is great, remember this is a marked run, if you go into back country or side country you have all sorts of amazing stuff. But the snow can be more like the North East US pretty icy, sometimes it wont snow for several weeks.
Great vid, you must be a very efficient skier to talk so calmly while negotiating such steep terrain. I guess the 200+ dislikes must have been snowboarders ;)
It seems that the Black wall run in Glacier 3000 is now steeper (it opened this year I think) - it runs between 41 and 46 degrees. This one is supposed to be 35 degrees.
Is there an angle that defines if something is green, blue, red or black? I found for example a red section at la plagne while quite short was pretty nervous as one side was almost exclusively hard ice which makes feel more vunerable. Videos always make the slope also seem less steep. As you said the lumps of snow in the afternoon are horrible. I have often lost control going over multiple lumps (sorry i am not sure how to spell that word) and put off balance. Hope to go back to les arcs get back into it. Any suggestions for anyone with 1 knee (my left side) that is a little problematic too?
22 degrees = black. This is adhered to more strictly in the US, in Europe, there isn't really a set angle, depends on the resort. Best thing you can do is just work on your technique, if you technique is good, it should be effortless even if it is steep.
NOTE: the exact definition of what this run is: steepest mogul field in France. ⛷ 🇫🇷
How can you define that anyway? A mogul field is just the result of people skiing there - any slope with snow can become a mogul field if plenty of people ski on it...
@@diabl2master yes, so it is the steepest marked run that is ungroomed in France.
@@diabl2master I don't know where you tend to ski, but in France these kind of black run steep mogul field sections are quite distinct. In Austria or Italy they would not even think about marking these as a run.
@@zwamman exactly, it's just a different concept of piste. In Austria or Italy if it's not groomed it's not a piste.
okay steepest mogul field maybe in the Alps certainly the steepest run, I've skied stuff way steeper than that, that doesn't look bad at all.
Very impressed by your attitude towards other skiers not as good as yourself. Most people’s comments would very arrogant and put them all down but your comments were very humble, understanding and kind. Thank you on their behalf and simply thank you for being such a decent human being, quite a rarity in modern society where so many see the only way to feel good about themselves is by putting other people down. You good sir are a true gem and I pray that goodness and mercy follow you all the days of your life. 😎👍
Great comment, thanks
Thats how everybody should be, i dont get why people diss eachother
jesus loves you
Often times it's not about putting them down. Learning is fine pushing yourself is great, getting so far in over your head that you don't belong and are a danger to yourself and others evokes the more harsh comments especially as a first responder.
Your still gay
Thanks for the video. This track is a "great" souvenir for me. But not necessarily a good one !
I've taken this track once, thirty years ago. Some friends told me that I was skilled enough to do it, and in my early 20s, I was fool enough to listen to them.
The initial wall after the tunnel is just terrifying, not only because the slope is steep, but because the bumps are harsh, and the video doesn't necessarily show at which point.
I was not skilled enough, contrary to my friends beliefs. I fell after a few meters and, as the snow was icy, I went to the down of the wall on my ass. Literaly. Fortunately my skis had taken off.
But the problem with uncontrolled gravity, is that even when I tried to control my freefall, my head was heading down, and I was afraid that my head could hit a bump with disastrous consequences.
Miraculously, when my uncontrolled slide ended, I stood up, and... Nothing. No injury. No contusion. A crowd of skiers saw my fall and came to me. All were very surprised to see that I had rigorously nothing. A ski monitor brought back my skis, asked me some questions (to verify my consciousness, I suppose) and then I could follow the rest of the track, which is much easier.
I've never tried again this track. I've enjoyed many other places, I've improved my skiing abilities, but, no, definitely, I can't imagine to do it again.
Don't try it if you're not a very good skier. Especially if the snow is icy.
snow condition is vital here, with the ones shown in the video it should be doable for fairly skilled skiers.
Done the same mate 20 years ago in my early twenties 2 of my mates turned back and 3 of us fought what the hell we will have ago spent more time on my ass than skiing Moguls everywhere glad I did it tho never again lol
Did the same in 1 of the steepest if not the steepest in scandinavia on snowboard. Kinda scary, burnt my back abit of the friction
Happens alot! We saw a skier meet the same fate twice! Moguls were huge and it doesn't take much to go too fast and lose everything 😂
Couldn’t imagine skiing down that on a icy day
Yes I did enjoy it . Brought back memories god I do miss it
Same... Not even sure I will be able to ski this year, and I live in France
Same I have missed 2 seasons cuz of Covid-19
@@annagrace3036 I was very fortunate to go at the start of twenty twenty but sadly i’ve missed this season😢
“Snowboarders there, always sitting down”. 😂 Classic.
I never see a skier sitting down
I took a similar route for experienced people by accident when I was still a noob and ended going full speed down without falling and everyone was staring at me....damn nice feeling
Haha great stuff!
😄😂😂
I'm so greatfull that this video came into my recommendations🤩
Back when I was was younger my school went to a ski trip most of 7s could not ski and learned it along the way. But one of my class mates used to do super ski when he was a child but for some reason he did not mention that, he only told us that he could ski. The look of the teachers when he went on the black route and went down there blasting was quite a sight.
That view omg completly insane, mountain landscape >> all the others
This is in really good condition compared to when I did it. The entry intro the run was so cut up and moguled it was tricky to get onto the run. Once passed that very top section headed far left and then pretty easy.
Beautiful. Never seen it with all that snow. I’m used to seeing it in Tour de France.
You make it look so easy , love your attitude and commentary. We'll done
I am only here for the comments from the Americans, all of whom have MUCH steeper slopes in their grannies' backyards, which they ski MUCH better and for whom this is absolutely a walk in the park. On a sunny Sunday morning.. :):)
P.S. This dude is superhuman. Rossi Soul 7 (or whatever these are) are the absolute last ski I'd take for this kind of run. Excellent!
😁👍👍👍
Btw - description from a travel agency: Alpine slopes vary from beginner to extreme level, but the average vertical drop here makes all North American slopes look like they’re made for beginners...
Ok - not for everything and everyone, but besides some extreme highlights like corbets couloir etc. probably not completely wrong either...
Stay safe...
Me at 8 years old thinking...why do zig zags just go straight down it’s more fun
David Zakaryan bruh lol
Straight to meet your creator
Same lol but I’m 11
once i send it a black piste down at a really fast speed there was a ice rock and i crashed. it felt like jumping out of a car at 100km/h
El Presidente have you jumped from 100 kmh car?
Excellent! Thanks for sharing this. It is on my bucket list to ski the Alps in France. Maybe Courchevel? I skied a bit at a place called Gerlitzen in Austria when I was in college. Its been my dream to go back to the Alps
Dude, you are doing everything! I watched your credit card channel, your Chinese channel and then this! Good for you!
Thanks man! I always wanted to do the tunnel run but never Managed to do it, thanks for the tips!
I just recently started skiing again , and this brings back memories of a childhood trip to the French alps
Which was in Morzine south of d'huez
Seeing the actual ski track after 15 years.. i lived in Grenoble for work, visited alp dhuez thrice went up just for the view... never had confidence to do even the simplest tracks .. always wondered how it was... Thanks..
Verry nice video, I really like your commentary!
Thank you so much for sharing this! I am too chicken to go skiing I never learned it when I was young and I have tremendous fear of skiing now that I am an adult and in my 50s. Thank you so much for taking me down the slope without me breaking my legs LOL! :-)
never too late to start! start with easy green runs. risk of injury on those are not high at all.
Excellent video. Good visuals, clear explanation, nice tips, and no annoying commentary or music.
I love how he explains everything! :)
I’ve skied The Tunnel run a number of times and it is steep. The worst thing was the very initial ledge outside the tunnel that was often sheet glass like ice, so better to get through that quickly. It was also this run where i saw for the first time skiers jumping in people who had fallen to stop them sliding right down to the bottom of the hill and injuring themselves.
Im not a good skiier, but I have done that run. I found, as you said, the first, steap bit challanging. After that, not too bad. Nice that you have a good attitude - for me and many others its a valuable learning experience!
I love steep slopes, I need to ride this one one day!
Awesome shredding bro, especially on those skis for the snow conditions :D makes it more hard mode. Hoping to visit Huez at easter
Great description....I'm not a skier, but I enjoyed it! Looks amazing!! ⛷🏂
Wow you made that look almost effortless.
wow, je connaissais même pas ce tunnel, génial, belle vidéo et bon skieur le mec :)
Very impressive skiing skills at the start. It looked as though your where leaning back. I have skied a few black runs, I find it's best not to dwell, just pick your line and go.
As others have said, great respect to you on others who might not be as good as yourself.
Agree: just go. The more you think the more you going to make yourself nervous.
I remember that one... and I miss it....
Epic, I can only dream to ski like that
Mate I did this while I couldnt See my OWN hands because of the storm😂
Skiing in storms is literally one of the best things 🤙 god I miss it
@@aboldone5936 ugh same covid be ruining everything
I'd love it if they put that on the sign at the top of the run. "The Tunnel - steepest black run in France, maybe. Or the Alps. Or something. Who knows?"
Nah its only 35° lol, there are a plenty of steeper runs. For example in Switzerland I can name like at least 4 steeper runs (mt. fort, gentianes, tortin, chavanette)
@@fredwells7403 Harakiri is 38 degrees and pure ice. When you fall you’re not stopping until you reach the bottom (luckily it is straight tho so no problem really). Lift also runs just to the side of it so always fun to watch other people slide down 😅
@@christian_suys Theres sometimes that one unfortunate skier who wipes out so hard it’s like the entire world goes silent and time stops for a moment -even for those of us watching from the lift. Those are like whoa 😳 But yeah totally some of the more common yard-sale wipe outs are just part of the fun.
Idk y this is on my recommended but awesome!! Great vid and audio nice and informative and well made 👍
Wow the view is amazing
Thanks for the video! I was there several years ago and that area was closed for some reason. I was quite disappointed not to do it. Seems nice, but not something I never seen before. Maybe next time...
Absolutely beautiful scenery and video. Loved your narration as well. What I wouldn't give to take this run. Great video.
Very nice video and a very good run :)
Great skiing and video.
Its so beautiful..... Speechless.....
Nice video. Thanks.
Just booked for March 2024 (La Plagne) so like every year its time for my pilgrimage to this video to increase the anticipation! Looking forward to your US content again this year.
Awesome!!! Lots of stuff planned
The entry can vary enormously .. from heavily rutted and moguls to fairly benign .. looked like this was ok .. as you drew attention.. the hardest part is often avoiding the debris of humans littered across the slope. You made it look effortless.
Thinking back to when I used to ski 40 years ago I’m pretty sure that it’s only an eight-year-old that could run it straight down. Those little kids with their 3 foot long skis and no poles going down triple Black diamond trails were a sight to behold.
they're closer to ground...
Haha so true, i’m from the netherlands and i am an average skiër. Always falt bad, when those kids blasted past you on black pistes😂😂
@@vikorbracho Less weight = less speed also.
That is because an eight year old usually has no fear.
Remember doing this at a start of a blizzard. The mounds were massive. I was exhausted at the end.... Haven't been there in a few years
This snow looks packed! Hello from niseko.
Amazing!!!!!!
Awesome track, would like to go there.
First time I did the tunnel my instructor took us down the couloir just beyond where you turned. It was crazy but I turn my brain off when following an instructor!!!
A very long time ago you could, when geting out of the tunnel, "jump" directly in the slope or even going left to get a more comfortable and not over riden line ( when and if the snow was soft enough ).
Gentle put down of the people turning back in the tunnel
"I do not doubt their heart, only the reach of their skill"
This make me think about the music : Secret tunnel
LMAO
I really like this tunnel at l’alpe d’huez
I remember doing this in 1984. I was one of those skiers standing around on the slopes, contemplating my mortality. An acute sense of self preservation. Took me 30 minutes to do what you did in about 20 seconds. Mind you, I remember when I did it the moguls were YUGE :-).
Good job! ... 😀👍
very funny...tks man!
I missed the tunnel back in the 2012 I was there, which might be good though, else I would still be with plastered legs and arms :D
I just came home from skiing in Pitztal, it was my favourite holiday because I was with my friends but the only problem is I'm really dissapointed by how easy the blacks were, I kinda just did them like I'd do red slopes. But after seeing this I want to go to Alpe D'Huez!
That was a very British run ;-). There was a time black runs gave me the chills until i learned the importance of making good poll plants! Go as fast or as slow as you want.
So useful to get a video where we learn how to ski AND how to be polite, great human being. Have you thought about opening a ski school? It may be really useful to people not as good as you who don’t lean back far enough have too much flow between their turns.
Or maybe those people just have narrower skis that are much more appropriate to the conditions. I’m sure they could do with the help.
its amazing how easy the go pro makes everything look. Then you actually go there and its not so easy anymore haha
Nice video! I guess the camera angle doesn't do the actual steepness justice. I'm only an amateur skier, only done very modest or short black runs so far. I've stood atop the "Swiss Wall" though in France, which is a "orange" run between France and Switzerland (orange because it is too hard to be classified using the standard system). That thing was scary as hell. It has a 40 degree drop over the first 50 meters, and drops 331m over it's total length of just 1000 meters (which translates to 33% average drop I guess?). Apparently, the tunnel run has an average decline of 35%, which actually makes it even steeper than the "Swiss Wall". Insanse stuff.
I think some of these stats are a little off. Most black runs are around 22 degree which is about 40-50% (100% being 45 degree) so that run would be around 15 degree or a red run. So probably the vertical drop is higher or the slope shorter if its more than a black run. Maybe you measure the skiable length and not the horizontaI travel? In offpiste skiing then the steepest slopes are around 55 degree and normal runs are 30-40 degree. But even steep black runs can seem (and is) intimidating, especially when one does not have something else to compare it to.
thought orange runs were designated mogul runs and ungroomed runs
Went down this in January just gone, the layout and condition of the run has changed massively to this video. The first initial 3rd of the run is barely skiable as the run is as wide as the length of a ski. But if you go duex alpes it’s a souvenir to say you have ski down it
Moguls .... My arch nemesis 😆 I'd either be the person headed back through the tunnel or the girl at the top realising there's nowhere to turn 😆 I did le tunnel in La Plagne, although that's a blue, far more my scene 😂
The Harikiri is steeper but is also pisted so maybe easier?
The moguls as you leave the tunnel always put me off which is a shame as the piste below is incredible. Looks like you had the perfect combo of quiet, good snow and blue sky. 👍
Yeah might be 'easier' but still hella steep
Harakiri is only 38 degrees
I didn’t know you did skiing, I thought you just did Star Trek and Star Wars and stuff. I’m a big fan of Star Trek, Star Wars, and skiing.
Ok, if cororna is over i definitly try this!😍
Yeah I managed to do this just before Corona, it was like February 7th 2020 or something, everything shutdown in the end of March
According to geodata it has maximum slope 89%, average 29% - definitely in the steepest club.
In comparison:
Face de Bellevarde in Val d'Isere - 96%/33%;
Grand Couloir in Courchevel - 80%/41%;
GoPro Couloir in Courchevel - 86%/47%;
Harakiri in Mayrhofen - 83%/34%;
Corbet's Couloir in Jackson Hole - 97%/45% (but it's actually a drop off).
The Mur de Chavanette is also a hell of an ride. But it don't know the Data for this.
Does anyone remember the Furggen in Cervinia? It was a crazy old cable car that went into the side of a cliff. You had to walk through a tunnel to (what seemed to me at the time) a very steep piste. The cable car was closed in 1993 as it was too dangerous and costly to repair.
@@halloblade1 Pas des Chavenettes was a "normal" black run but back in the 90's at least, the start was a 2 metre, vertical drop in. The Swiss just don't care...For them it's normal.
I thought he was gonna say conditions are bad and that’s when I realized how amazing skiing in Colorado is lmao. Also there’s some 90% slopes in Colorado as well I’m not brave enough for those, but I’d definitely do this one!
Yea, New England skier here, this is a dream. Looks relatively very, very easy.
@@noahhurley-abelew6536 Um what? You cant tell the steepness from the camera angle.
ever gone on Chassoure its probably the toughest run in Verbier but still great fun
there is a slope in Slovakia, which maybe even steeper than this, however it's not as long as this one
Looks pretty icy but pretty fun to
Such a good technique 😂
"conditions are quite good on this day" - proceeds to scrape down pure ice
Its alpine face 3000m above sea level. What do you expect? This isn’t Utah or Colorado bro, conditions in the Alpes are not endless powder, often there is no new snow for like two weeks and the moguls are the size of cars
I recognize that voice anywhere. Thanks credit shifu!
Hey credit warriors! Credit Shifu here! And yes I run a ski channel too
i miss such videos on yt in general
I never knew this was the steepest black in the Alps. I did this when I was 12/13 with some friends and my dad with next to zero visibility, fading light and moguls that were as tall as me. Looking back now I can't believe I managed it!
Everything is easy when you don't know how hard it's supposed to be. Confidence is key
@@ilmohaikonen7707 I was skiing with some really good skiers including two friends that skied for GB, definitely helped with the confidence
and also it 8s not the steepest. obviously steep. but not the steepest
Look mate, great run, good camera work, on quite icey snow. But you can improve your turns a lot by keeping you shoulders turned towards the valley. I see your valley arm creeping into view quite often at the end of the turns, making the turns a little too long, putting your balance a little too far back on your skis (I know, because I have the tendency to do so myself, when it gets a little harder). If you keep your shoulder facing square down, only your hips & knees need to turn & your turns will get shorter, giving you more control. Anyway, looks like a fun run. I think I did this one when I was nine or so, with more moguls (I think it actually makes it a little easier, as you can ski up against them, as you ski down the fall line).
Thanks for the tips. To be honest I am overdue to have some sessions with an instructor and correct some bad habits. Haven’t really worked on technique since 2010 or so. Once you are at a certain level it is easy to just go with it and not bother to try and advance your technique. And yeah the moguls are normally bigger, I did it when I was young too, with big moguls
Nice to read constructive and polite advice! I’ve skied in Holidayed and skied in Austria for more than 35 years and I can relate to everything you say also I was just watching Angel Collinson an extreme big mountain skier doing her thing in Alaska and that I can appreciate but can’t so I’m that good and never wanted to be as it has made a short life for so many of them! Stay safe
Neva mean powder ski,indeed with these mellow bananas its sliding all the way,
An indeed this guy needs lots off tecnique lessons,but he,he has fun so why bother....
Come to Crested Butte Colorado, that’s like we have much more and still steeper.
You had amazing ski condition. Beautiful weather. Snow was perfect.
Would do it for the views!
It looks icy up top which can make any slope more technical.
I'm OK with saying I'm not good enough! It looks bloody steep to me. I wish I had the balls to do it
How does this compare to Tortin in Verbier? Its said to be one of the hardest (piste) runs in Switzerland.
I have done it many times and can be difficult at times depending on snow conditions and ice.
I have the same question as wel. Altough the piste you are referring to is called chassoure-tortin. It is often called Tortin(i called it that too for a long time)or chassoure. The start of it can be really steep especially when it has been a busy season.
MEGA !
I'm confused. Steepest terrain I've skied is 54° but it looks not as steep as this one (which is less then 100%(45°?)) Hows that?
In the scandic mountains, the steepest pist is called (75:an) and (Väggen) which is 46* gradient I've skied in the 75:an a couple times😁
Choken is steeper
Did it in 1992 with 200 cm straight skis, wonder how those would work today..😂😂
The Sarenne I’m pretty sure is the longest run in Europe. It’s tough and I think it took over half an hour to complete. Average speed was 80km/h for me as I only did it once on a day trip from neighbouring Les Deux Alpes.
It’s very scenic, probably one of the most scenic I’ve ever done. It’s definitely a run you want to do relatively early in the day. Just as the sun shines above the mountain, and before the moguls start to form. The fact it is icy in the morning and slushy late season with the sun beating down in the afternoon makes it difficult and you definitely need to time it right to ski there without running into these. Best time to do it I would say is late-December to early-March when the snow is there to stay.
Its 16km long, with average speed of 80km/h?? That would never take half an hour, more like less than 10min
Spoiled out here in the states. Checking the incline % this is pretty stock standard with regards to harder mountains "steepness"
The snow conditions and moguls make that look super unfun however, hah.
Also I am amazed at your patience, I was annoyed with those people just watching the video.
In the Alps the terrain is great, remember this is a marked run, if you go into back country or side country you have all sorts of amazing stuff. But the snow can be more like the North East US pretty icy, sometimes it wont snow for several weeks.
Great vid, you must be a very efficient skier to talk so calmly while negotiating such steep terrain.
I guess the 200+ dislikes must have been snowboarders ;)
He obviously did a voice over how are you so stupid
The weather is shitty for ski this year, i spent a week at Val d'Isère and all red and black pistes were like this
Top Alpe d huez is famous . I have been there in Summer and Winter :)👍 and Sub from Peter
It seems that the Black wall run in Glacier 3000 is now steeper (it opened this year I think) - it runs between 41 and 46 degrees. This one is supposed to be 35 degrees.
C'est sympathique de se voir au début de la video sur la droite avec mes 2 garçons :-)
What camera are you using? Awesome quality!
The steepest in the world is: Martinswand 90° near Innsbruck. Noone has ever skied it ;)
I always like to do the black runs just blazing straight down, its a blast picking up that insane speed.
I'd like to do this megaavalanche style!
i wanna try this run so bad
Nice run! What kind of skies are you using? Carving skies or Allmountain?
Is there an angle that defines if something is green, blue, red or black? I found for example a red section at la plagne while quite short was pretty nervous as one side was almost exclusively hard ice which makes feel more vunerable.
Videos always make the slope also seem less steep. As you said the lumps of snow in the afternoon are horrible. I have often lost control going over multiple lumps (sorry i am not sure how to spell that word) and put off balance.
Hope to go back to les arcs get back into it. Any suggestions for anyone with 1 knee (my left side) that is a little problematic too?
22 degrees = black. This is adhered to more strictly in the US, in Europe, there isn't really a set angle, depends on the resort. Best thing you can do is just work on your technique, if you technique is good, it should be effortless even if it is steep.
I have been there! It is in Tignes/Val d'Isere :)))
No. This ons is in Alpe d’Huez. The tunnel in Val d’Isere is a bit shorter.