Saves lives, better for our communities, better for our cities. And you catch up to the red traffic lights whether you're going 30 or 20mph all the same.
According to Rod King you can get across a 10 mile wide town in 15 minutes at 20 mph, while the laws of physics state it will actually take you 30 minutes. So clearly he has no understanding on how slow 20mph is as he has stated it is the same speed as driving 40mph.
Horrendous, a disgusting outright lie to win an argument, while debating on tv. He knew the Simple arithmetic. ! Shows how low these vile commies who hide behind cloaks and masks will go to take our freedoms away.
Same as happens now, no kind of law will EVER resolve people who continually break laws anyway! What a bloody daft thing to come out with! Unless of course, *_you have a Cunning Plan Baldrick?_* @@namugriff
Only if cars stay on the road! If a car driven fast (not very fast if conditions are wrong too) can't take a corner and mounts the pavement people on it can be hit.
Have most of your cities taken at least 1/3 of streets and changed them to bike lanes? The social engineering is not being voted on is it. The dynamics of this has nothing to do with safety don’t kid yourself.
@@ianhill4585 That suits me. Sitting in my car in traffic is depressing. I'd much rather walk or cycle. I used to have a 17 mile commute which was quicker to cycle than drive because of the traffic in Bristol
I've tried driving through town at 20mph . I'm in third gear, using more fuel and taking much longer to clear the area. This also means that the timetables for public transport will have to be amended, many services being cancelled. Have these idiots tried carrying a weeks shopping for a family of five on foot or on your bike. It will not encourage walking or cycling. It is just another way of making money for local councils. A great deal of people who support these changes dont drive. Also will these limits also apply to cyclists. Bet they dont!
All part of the late greedy Bettys 45 year UK caliphate replacement plan. ( Back to the 12th century we go, doffing our caps, curtsying, and tugging our forelocks into oblivion.)
It's so obvious what these zones are for and who really benefits from them. Also, of course it will not apply to cyclists, limits aren't a thing for them. You'll have to watch out for those shooting up the side of you.
My Adaptive Cruise Control will apply 20mph as I travel through some of my local coastal villages. Being overtaken by cyclists is taking the P155. They do not have to abide by the speed limits [in law]. Held up on the open road and then overtaken closer than the April 2022 Highway Code "Hierarchy" rules is a joke. The galling thing is that most of the cyclists must be car drivers!
@@Bill-Phuk that's a bit disappointing. Kia stonic goes 15mph and above. Ford mondeo goes 20mph in 2nd cruise won't engage in 1st gear. But it will in 2nd at 20mph. 1500rpm
@@Bill-Phuk It is all compromise, my car won't either, but didn't stop them putting the cruising speed a few kmh above the third lowest speed limit, and shipping centres, you often can't even ride the throttle at 10km/h. Over here we have 20lm/h 30km/h 40km/h 50km/h, instead of just the normal 60km/h. Watch out, we have round abouts at 30km/h with the signs a long way off, and the 60km/h a long way off. If wouldn't be so bad of it was on the round about, and 40 or 50 But no. They also obstruct vision with vegetation so you can't check if somebody is around a round about to avoid running into th at 30lm/h. So dangerous. The problem is we get a lot of jacked up .... on bikes. We can't have them making policy for 95% of people. The bike is bit outdated, and on countries with more bikes the accidents can be horrendous. You are just increasing your chances of having an accident versus a food car driver.
Nigel 🙄Couldn't destroy a bloke dressed up as a Dolphin , whilst attempting to become a member of Parliament.. I guess he should stick to viewing Refugees crossing the Channel using his Pound Shop Binoculars!
I live in Wales and I agree with 20 near schools. But like today and almost every day over my 11 mile journey in mostly built up areas I seldom see any children. It’s a total farce. Where the hell did Drakeford get his mad idea from.
well his imprisoned son does like younger folk, so may be hes trying to encourage more on to the streets, cos its gonna be "safer" now but the logic is pretty weak.
We have this already in Scotland, it’s unbelievably frustrating, causing processions of cars literally crawling along through wide open areas. It’s ridiculous.
Don't talk drivel. People do at least 80 in a 70 zone. 70 in a 60 zone, 60 in a 50 zone. 50 in a 40 zone And 30 in a 20 zone. It used to be 40 in a 30 zone the roads have been slowed byy traffic. These speed limits are for the outside times of peak time drivers. I could upload hundreds of videos from all over Edinburgh, been driving here since 1982. The traffic in 1982? Well it was slow. Now every second driver is a speed freak, and every third driver is a psychopathic road rage nut. We need to slow drivers down If you get caught doing 50 in a twenty zone, you will be put where you should be. Off the fkn road.
@georgeandvictoriam7151 and as we're in a lower gear & braking more often (creating more CO2 & Brake Dust in the AIR we're Breathing ) to avoid minor collisions as roads jam up during rush hours , Countries Being Run by Brainless Clowns
nonsense in new vehicles they all have an ecu and a ems controlling fuel injection for economy and emissions expelled, perhaps for a carburettor yes but those a few an far between these days, and all ems are programmed for fuel efficiency at all speeds and revs.
@@apocalypticweasel9078no it causes serious congestion and people have real trouble turning right in 20mph zones as traffic bunches together. You all become stuck and not everyone has start stop or uses it if they have. Car engines idling all over the place increases pollution fact!
@@stevec6427 It isn't directly. It is part of wider culture war: huge bollards blocking roads for LTNs, ULEZ, CAZ, 20mph limits, 15min cities, "vision zero".. even the highway code has been re-written as part of this culture war (needless to say feedback from the consultation was ignored as is usual in these cases). It is the equivalent of "constructive dismissal" in employment law: technically you are never fired, they just make your life as miserable as possible until you quit.
They get away with it because we don't have a problem in the first place. When you don't have a problem at 30 mph then going 20 mph means you don't have a problem end of.
It's like the EU making everyone buy a 600w hoover, takes twice as long to do the job there fore using more energy then using a 1200w over less time.. push push push into Thier / them great plan... 🤦🤷
@@Lostintranslation9037 Motors and vacuums are getting more efficient, just like everything else. 15 years ago I wouldn't have entertained the idea of having a car with less than a 2 litre engine but my current 1.2 is more powerful than the car I had back then and uses around half the fuel. Also lightbulbs, a modern 15w bulb is as bright as an older 80 watt incandescent bulb. With the cost of energy now, surely using less has to be a good thing?
Has it become too hard for schools and councils to train children and illegal immigrants to cross the road properly? Look right, look left and look right again and if the road is clear... walk straight accross while still looking? Notwithstanding training pedestrians to stop and wait when there is a green light for traffic. And a very clear red sign telling pedestrians to stop and wait? Just a thought?
The pedestrians of today , need to take walking tests . Strolling across a busy road , looking neither left nor right , but glued to their iPhones , is now quite a common occurrence. 😮 I'd say , I've had at least half a dozen do just that , as I was approaching them still on the pavement..😡
Saying publicly, like this, that you can get places just as quick at 20 mph is an insult to anyone's intelligence. Why is it OK to lie like this? Outrageous.
Exactly. There isn't a week that goes by where my mother doesn't mention the miners' strike, and she's used cognitive dissonance to justify the new 20 mph.
Yep. It's a one party state and that's dangerous because they know they can do what they like with no consequence. It's happening too as Wales is falling apart.
All part of the late Greedy Bettys 45 year UK caliphate legacy replacement plan. Back to the 12th century you go, doffing your cap, curtsying, and tugging your forelock into oblivion.
Drakeford turned his back on 6000+ consulted about the 20 limit Consultation which did not support the blanket 20 limit. Instead he went along with a much smaller survey of a 1000 of which 63% said yes to 20mph in the area where they live & used this to persuade the Senedd to support his foolish blanket 20 limit debacle. Misleading the Senedd is a breach of the Ministerial code for which the First Minister would expect any other AM to tender their resignation. In the Environment Bill consultation (May23) Ministers took the view that 2229 respondents may not be representative of Wales population. A Walesonline poll of over 6000 returned 92% opposed. Yet despite the foregoing, instead of calling for a broader representative poll, Drakeford went with the smaller sample which supported the narrative. On this basis alone 20 limit should be rejected outright. Drakefords Law (20 limit) is based a range of assumptions and untruths which collectively add weight to his breach of the Ministerial code. Welsh Assembly Ministers opposed to 20 limit should collate this information and call for Drakefords immediate resignation along with scrapping of the 20 limit debacle. Drakefords Law is not fit for purpose
D'awwh, you actually believe votes has any real world consequences? That's adorable! ^.^ If voting actually meant anything, we wouldn't be allowed to do it.
The Wales MP was on BBC Wales today. Said a 10 mile journey done at 20mph took only 2 minutes longer then it took at 30mph. Do the maths and you realise that these MP types are all failures in real world jobs so get a political degree so they can believe there own bull shit
I think what he means is you can travel to the centre of a 10 mile wide town in 15 mins, not right across it. However allowing for traffic lights and jams etc, this would be more like 25 mins I think
I live in wales, and there has been a 20 mph sign installed and also the 40mph sign has been changed to 30 mph, so it looks like all speed limits are going to be reduced, I also think there will be a vast increase in road rage incidents, and I think I might cause a few because I will be driving at10 mph as a sign of protest.
I think everyone should do the same. Crawl along at 10mph right across the country and cause massive congestion everywhere. It would be a brilliant protest. I start work at 9 o clock on Monday. I think I'll do it just to see the huge snake of cars piling up behind me!
Wales 20mph why ? = 20mph proven to be no safer than 30mph. ICE cars stop at 30mph very quick. It takes the very heavy EV Cars as long to stop at 30mph as it takes an ICE car to stop at 50mph. 20mph = EV cars cannot stop quick enough at 30mph - they are too heavy and too dangerous for 30mph roads. So inreality the new road rulings 20mph and lots of 60/50 mph being lowered to 40mph should only apply to EV - this then puts them on par with ICE in stopping distances. EVs have remote stop systems and are tracked so the tech is all already in place to just apply all the new lowered speed limits to EVs.
People used to have enough sense to know roads were dangerous. Unfortunately, now we play the blame game. Why would you listen to a idiot that thinks you can drive 10 miles at 20mph in 15 mins! This is the level of their intelligence, their commitment to ignorance is staggering.
Exactly. That guy is old and long past his intellectual prime [ if there was any ]. Can`t do math and keeps rambling and repeating himself. He should rather focus on gardening instead of commenting on public matters.
@@chrishart8548 Yours is a very best case scenario on a road that follows the crow's straight flight path and that has no traffic lights or impeding traffic, etc. You can probably double that, even triple it, in London during business hours. I know delivery drivers are constantly stopping and making deliveries, but many would travel less than 40 miles in a day that can last more than 14 hours. And that's without a blanket 20mph speed limit to further slow proceedings. The problem is that even Labour politicians have lost touch with the labouring classes that move goods, including parts used to manufacture and repair, as well as finished goods, and provide mobile services. And time really is money for each business in the chain and every end consumer. This will not only burn more fossil fuel and disproportionately increase harmful emissions, but will also fuel inflation and create delays, frustration, and discontent. The politicians are either stupid or know exactly what they are doing. They may well be stupid, but they also know exactly what they are doing, and doing it regardless. Remember, they commission plenty of research, modelling, and consultancy reports. They know the science, but don't follow it. They know the economic impacts and ignore them. What they follow is the ideology, no matter the costs, no matter the negative impacts on people's lives. And the best they can do is manufacture virtual non-existent statistical deaths in a worst-case model. It is coordinated and choreographed chaos, and big business is in on it, too. When you are poor and own nothing, but not happy, the only means of resistance will be contained by locking down the ghettos, aka X-minute cities that are the antithesis of cities.
@@igorkratka A pair of Dr Scholl sandals and this month's copies of " Wine Ponce " and " Golf C *nt " magazines should be his prime concern, now he's in his dotage.
They will have cyclists in front of every car soon...with red flags! Fed up of the constant oppression and it's aimed at the easy targets. Big changes should be voted on.
The wef want to make u sick from vaccines to pollution to plastic food to water ,,,and there going to get all ur freedoms and democracy under the delusional climate waffle yes net zero and climate are tools used to get what rich billionaires want control and tyranny
I'm getting really concerned about all of this attacking car drivers. I live in a village and am registered disabled with a blue badge. I am unable to travel on public transport and can not walk far. It Seems that at some point I,m going to be housebound as this government hasn't thought about disabled drivers at all. I am too wary about the dangers of electric cars with the known fact that they are a fire hazard so don't want one. I haven't got the physical ability to escape from a burning car in a hurry !
The WEF is more interested in getting military aged, able bodied males into this country. The disabled will not be considered "Diverse" enough for any help in the future. Make way for the new population who are considered better in every way !
I do hope there isn't a 10mph slow moving road block organised affecting all the major road networks around the country in protest, that would be truly awful!
Sadly for the rest of you, that IS included in our (and other) groups proposed action! Stop/Start and a max. speed of 10 could be a bit naughty, especially for Southern England and London!
There are villages in the Scottish Borders with wide open areas, no schools, no shops, no pedestrians, yet everyone must follow each other crawling along at 20mph when they can see for 100 yards in every direction. It’s awful.
Check out the road traffic act 1930 😅 quite funny mass disobedience lead to the cameras and trap being made illegal that's when we used to have people with a backbone to stand up for what they wanted
The guy with glasses is no good at maths. 20mph means you can travel 20 miles in 1 hour, to do 10 miles at the same speed is 30 minutes not 15! The reality with all traffic travelling slower causing less vehicles getting through traffic lights timed for 30mph will mean a 10 mile journey across a town will take at least 40 minutes.
Nobody takes account of the increased reaction times at 20mph . To maintain a speed that a car has not got the correct gearing to do easily takes more concentration on your speedo and takes your attention away from the road....
It should be a human rights issue. Anyone unfortunate enough to find themselves in Wales, it will now take them longer to get out of that Left Wing infected shit hole at 20mph!
Is this the beginning of the creep towards a 15 minute city? by limiting how far you can go within a certain time period? This is going to make journeys longer, traffic queues longer higher pollution and higher fuel consumption- am glad I moved out of Wales, - sensible people drive within the limits and sometimes slower for the sake of safety but unfortunately there are way too many reckless idiots on the road.
This is going to add minutes onto the driving time of lorry drivers as we will be stuck in longer queues that are slower moving. So expect to see lorries stopped in stupid places as they have run out of time and have to take a legal break. People might just think well its only a few minutes. But a few here, a few there and its 30m in no time. So it could mean that a planned days deliveries that used to be possible, is now not legally possible.
i do a run to the west end of london from lincoln im only 7.5t but its now not possible ,,and im sure if you live in a city your commuting time as gone up too. bet they do give us more driving time though
@theenglishtrucker1849 All part of the WEF plan to cripple the Country ,& Damage the Economy & Brow beat us into accepting what ever they want to impose on us , Aided & Abetted from WEF Supporting Buckingham Palace, down through Sunak & Khan the WEF Implementer through Parliament WEF Supporting MPs
Why would ques be slower moving? If congested roads don't get up to 20mph anyway then what difference does it make. Also, it'll cost you a minute every six miles that you could actually have been doing 30mph but probably only 30% of your time in a 30mph zone is actually doing 30mph anyway.
@@stevec6427you dont understand how tachos work.they're not that precise for the driver and will cost a lot of time over your driving week if you're unlucky enough to be in wales all day.i think the point trying to be made was,if your doing a combined drive of nose to tail,stop start then able to get to a clear bit of road but the limit is only 20 instead of 40 then it absolutely will make a difference
If drivers in wales including delivery drivers truckers etc:; stick at 20mph then within a few weeks wales will come to a standstill. Holiday makers will desert, shops will run out of stock, shift workers will not get to work on time, busses will be late, and the list goes on. Good luck Wales,👍 dont think this 20mph policy will last more that a few weeks.
My company is already going to be charging companies we deliver to in Wales a higher transport cost due to the extra time and fuel its going to take to do those deliveries, drivers could easily clear X amount of deliveries in South Wales on a day run, this new 20mph rule has just made it impossible so unfortunately Welsh Businesses will have to foot the bill.
Another good reason to not go to Wales and spend your time and money in a part of the UK that appreciates visitors and tourists. Funny though, cyclists don’t have to comply with speed limits!
I love Wales and have holidayed there many times. I had my very last holiday there this year, because I won’t be going back after 20mph speed limit has been introduced. I will miss beautiful Wales.
I would have cancelled a holiday in Wales in October but it’s already been paid for. I feel sorry for the tourism and hospitality sectors in Wales as this is going to seriously damage those sectors.
Just jump the border and travel no further. They've killed our tourism. Hotels are fully booked with people we have no idea who they are. Wales is destroyed and then in 2030 they will be taking our houses off us. Looney tunes R Us.
My thoughts exactly I won't be coming back again. I don't want the risk of inadertantly getting a speeding ticket. I'm sure speed cameras will be popping up on every corner.
Sold my car a couple of months ago. Sick of being ripped off by insurance companies, the price of fuel, garages Charing a fortune for repairs, ulez, speed camera’s parking wardens etc etc I could go on and on - I’m sure you get my point(s) I’m lucky I can get by without driving and feel sorry for those that can’t. It’s just one thing after another and a never ending cash - cow for anyone that wants their pound of flesh.
@@ancientartrevived maybe, but the alternative is to continue paying out a fortune and it just isn’t worth it for me, from a moral point of view and a financial point of view
The Welsh government seems to think it has to dictate many aspects of an individual's life. The trouble is due to the knee jerk voting for labour in Wales they'll probably get in next time as well. I just hope the police don't jump on it as a cash generator.
The whole idea is to DRIVE PEOPLE OFF THE ROADS because they hate the motorist...We NEED a change of government from Tory and Labour to a fairer more people orientated government
It is all very well setting speed limits at low levels and using statistics as a reason, what they do not take into account is that a good proportion of those either killed or seriously injured are by those who totally ignore any set speed limits or any other driving restrictions and they will continue to do so unfortunately.
Put average speed cameras up instead . And if drivers are caught hiding they identity of the vehicle, ie number plates in front screens, or number plates that don't reflect. Crush there cars. Bring a devise out that can take a picture at road side to allow police to show number plate doesn't reflect, then have that car impounded until legal plates are installed.
@@thejjjwils True which is why you need to vote for somebody else. Not Conservative, Labour, Liberals, SNP, Welsh Nat, Green or push for Proportional Representation. Will it work maybe not but if you vote for the above failure is guaranteed.
@@alanrobertson9790 I mean I wish that were true, but we wouldn't be here if any of the parties were different or we had any control over it beyond an illusion to think otherwise
Most car engines labour at these low speeds. Moreover, it means driving with constant speedo concern. Attending to the speedometer possibly more than the road ahead. It's bad news and another imposition on our liberty and freedom of movement.
The Welsh political system will not survive this madness. Here in Wales we are absolutely sick of the current dictatorship. We have seen the lies employed during this consultation, so why trust the science, if there is any.
Everyone who disagrees should get together and block all the london roads and tunnels with their cars and vans. The more we sit there and do nothing, the more they will pick on the motorists. We need to stand up
If it's safer to drive at 20 rather than 30, this must mean that there have been a significant number of deaths between those figures. I wrote to the transport section of my county council (Denbighshire) to get those statistics around a year ago. I have so far not received an answer.
The over Lords really want every one to be limited to a small geographical area like a Hunger Games as they chip away at the ability to move freely beyond that medieval Serf radius of a few miles.
I live near a big school, the parents parking out side the school block the roads to slow the traffic. Making it a 20mph zone did nothing. In 28 years I've not heard of any accidents before or after. It's total bull, it's just loonies running the show.
All the cameras need destroying. This isn't about the environment. It's about control. Enough already becasue this won't stop by complying. Wakey wakey people before its too late. Meanwhile on the Autobarn in Germany there's no speed limit.
So the Welsh Government has just decimated the Welsh tourist trade because no one will visit Wales now, I certainly won’t. It is also very bad for the environment because it means cars using a lower gear which is totally inefficient for the vehicle and creates more pollution. Labour will destroy the country. If I lived in Wales I would be voting every single Labour MP out of office. Rod, you have no idea.
Here in Belgium everywhere even the small cities is 30km/h the norm. And the government has also given even the small towns to put speed camera's and fine anyone the drives 31 km/h. Of course easy cash grab for all towns and cities, and abuse of the system. And in a lot of cases you enter an 30km/h zone and you never saw the sign because it is tiny. Driving at 30 km/h is very hard because you need to look at your dashboard none-stop. So you stop looking at the traffic, only your dashboard. 31 km/h and BAM fined. Other observation is that people that want to speed, don't care about 30%km/h, they go full throttle making it dangerous for any pedestrian in the dark. The 30 km/h has only thing in goal. Suck the motorist dry of money.
They've just destroyed any tourism revenue they had left, not to mention any outside trade for local busseness. This is truly "game over" for any hope of rebuilding their economy.
Loved going on holiday to Wales but now it's going to take too long to get through the country to get to the coast,so now I'll be heading to the south west for my holidays.
As far as I remember, to introduce a change to the normal national speed limit, there has to be proof that there will be a reduction in casualties (you cannot just say there will be) so why is nobody going through the road traffic rules to check that what they are doing is legal. Don't take a politician's word for it as they are the least likely to have a clue. Someone(Westminster?) should be looking at this via the courts if necessary.
An independent study by a Scottish university found a "negligible" difference between casualties in 20mph areas & 30mph areas - *THIS IS ALL ABOUT NICKING YOUR MONEY!* 😠
Labour has turned into a gang! At least street gangs don't steal/fine the elderly for driving at 24 mph on a road (patch) that's been 30 mph for decades. Shame on Labour!!! Gangs also don't pretend to be something they're not.
But it is a very good distraction away from all of the other issues we have in Wales including the worst NHS waiting lists in the Uk. No vision no strategy just inward looking policies which are only going to get worse
This is what happens when you have lunatics in positions of power...
And why greedy Betty and and King Charlie should have been led blindfold onto a trap door a long time ago.
So what does that say about th emajority that elected tham!
Saves lives, better for our communities, better for our cities. And you catch up to the red traffic lights whether you're going 30 or 20mph all the same.
@@StephenManchester Especially for the 20 million Urdu, Punjabi, and Arabic speakers in traitor King Charlies UK.
@@StephenManchester ...you mean use them as intended...🤡
Criminals in power called politicians.
Bigger criminals in absolute power called MONARCHY. ( And they,re unelected.)
All of ‘em closet Globalists both sides worse engaging in a Coup of our democracy in exchange for their Global dictatorship
Criminals and complete and utter self serving lunatics.
According to Rod King you can get across a 10 mile wide town in 15 minutes at 20 mph, while the laws of physics state it will actually take you 30 minutes. So clearly he has no understanding on how slow 20mph is as he has stated it is the same speed as driving 40mph.
Rod King knows a shortcut😅😅😅
You would have to average 40!! So would need to do 60 in places
He looks evil. All socialists do.
Amen
Horrendous, a disgusting outright lie to win an argument, while debating on tv. He knew the Simple arithmetic. !
Shows how low these vile commies who hide behind cloaks and masks will go to take our freedoms away.
There is no danger of being hit by a car at any speed if people stay on the pavement and remember the green cross code when crossing the road.
And what about the drivers that refuse to abide by the highway code, or don't have a drivers license?
Same as happens now, no kind of law will EVER resolve people who continually break laws anyway! What a bloody daft thing to come out with!
Unless of course, *_you have a Cunning Plan Baldrick?_* @@namugriff
@@namugriffStupid comment
And stop staring at their effing phones with ear plugs in expecting traffic to stop for you
Only if cars stay on the road! If a car driven fast (not very fast if conditions are wrong too) can't take a corner and mounts the pavement people on it can be hit.
Have most of your cities taken at least 1/3 of streets and changed them to bike lanes? The social engineering is not being voted on is it. The dynamics of this has nothing to do with safety don’t kid yourself.
WEF agenda that May signed us up to without our consent.
Yup, anti car--- pro walking, cycling agenda.
👍Thank the good Lord above, to hear a voice of sanity, and truth!👍
@@ianhill4585 That suits me. Sitting in my car in traffic is depressing. I'd much rather walk or cycle. I used to have a 17 mile commute which was quicker to cycle than drive because of the traffic in Bristol
@@stevec6427 Whatever suits you personally.
I've tried driving through town at 20mph . I'm in third gear, using more fuel and taking much longer to clear the area. This also means that the timetables for public transport will have to be amended, many services being cancelled. Have these idiots tried carrying a weeks shopping for a family of five on foot or on your bike. It will not encourage walking or cycling. It is just another way of making money for local councils. A great deal of people who support these changes dont drive. Also will these limits also apply to cyclists. Bet they dont!
All part of the late greedy Bettys 45 year UK caliphate replacement plan. ( Back to the 12th century we go, doffing our caps, curtsying, and tugging our forelocks into oblivion.)
It's so obvious what these zones are for and who really benefits from them. Also, of course it will not apply to cyclists, limits aren't a thing for them. You'll have to watch out for those shooting up the side of you.
Uses more fuel, and the cruise control won't work, and leads to even more fuel consumption.
My Adaptive Cruise Control will apply 20mph as I travel through some of my local coastal villages. Being overtaken by cyclists is taking the P155. They do not have to abide by the speed limits [in law]. Held up on the open road and then overtaken closer than the April 2022 Highway Code "Hierarchy" rules is a joke. The galling thing is that most of the cyclists must be car drivers!
@PhilMacVee my cruise control works at 15mph
66 reg Nissan leaf won't cruse under 30.
@@Bill-Phuk that's a bit disappointing. Kia stonic goes 15mph and above. Ford mondeo goes 20mph in 2nd cruise won't engage in 1st gear. But it will in 2nd at 20mph. 1500rpm
@@Bill-Phuk It is all compromise, my car won't either, but didn't stop them putting the cruising speed a few kmh above the third lowest speed limit, and shipping centres, you often can't even ride the throttle at 10km/h. Over here we have 20lm/h 30km/h 40km/h 50km/h, instead of just the normal 60km/h. Watch out, we have round abouts at 30km/h with the signs a long way off, and the 60km/h a long way off. If wouldn't be so bad of it was on the round about, and 40 or 50
But no. They also obstruct vision with vegetation so you can't check if somebody is around a round about to avoid running into th at 30lm/h. So dangerous. The problem is we get a lot of jacked up .... on bikes. We can't have them making policy for 95% of people. The bike is bit outdated, and on countries with more bikes the accidents can be horrendous. You are just increasing your chances of having an accident versus a food car driver.
Nigel should have DESTROYED Rod when he said 20mph is a 15 minute ride covering 10 miles. HE NEEDED TO CALL HIM OUT.
He gets paid to promote it hes on their side not ours, thats why he didn't call him out.
@freshprince3891 wait so Nigel is supporting the 20mph zones? Remember to stretch out before all that mental gymnastics.
Nigel 🙄Couldn't destroy a bloke dressed up as a Dolphin , whilst attempting to become a member of Parliament.. I guess he should stick to viewing Refugees crossing the Channel using his Pound Shop Binoculars!
Of course Rod King is retired and has more than enough time on his hands this guy is delusional
Rod, better known as 'Juan'...
Yup, he's old and doddery and not fit to give an opinion...
Most people who are in favour of this are old and no longer have to drive to work.
@@rbee3936 Past HIS Sell by Date BY MILES.
@@captainbimble Or single parents who fail to control their children, and want the state to ....
That Rod King is a complete bell end.
Our unelected sausage fingered, pro E.U. pro W/E/F/ pro Islam traitor King Charlie is an even bigger bell end.
No that's being to kind
The lunatics have taken over the asylum.
Just look at the interviewee. Plenty of proof.
ABSOLUTELY
You're listening to Nigel Farag he's the biggest loonie on television
I would substitute lunatics for bastards. But in either case your point is correct
@@DonJuanDM they are divorced from reality to such an extent that the James Webb telescope would be necessary to view them
I live in Wales and I agree with 20 near schools. But like today and almost every day over my 11 mile journey in mostly built up areas I seldom see any children. It’s a total farce. Where the hell did Drakeford get his mad idea from.
Folk voted Labour! The plan is control and banned cars.
So if all of your journey is in a currently 30 mph zone, as from Sunday it'll take you at least 10 minutes longer.
well his imprisoned son does like younger folk, so may be hes trying to encourage more on to the streets, cos its gonna be "safer" now but the logic is pretty weak.
Drakford got his idea from the WEF
Sir Kier Stalin.. OOOPS ! bit of a Freudian slip there, I meant to type 'Sir Kweir Starmer'..
Need to say , you burn more fuel when you drive slower!
+ That useless ulez
Unless it’s a crappy ev they use less power the slower they go
No one will be burning old fuels soon. All cars will be electric or they will be curiosities, like a horse and cart or steam traction engine.
@@nicholaspostlethwaite9554 Comedy gold. Lots of life in fossil fuels yet!
wrong
We have this already in Scotland, it’s unbelievably frustrating, causing processions of cars literally crawling along through wide open areas. It’s ridiculous.
Don't talk drivel.
People do at least 80 in a 70 zone.
70 in a 60 zone,
60 in a 50 zone.
50 in a 40 zone
And 30 in a 20 zone.
It used to be
40 in a 30 zone the roads have been slowed byy traffic.
These speed limits are for the outside times of peak time drivers.
I could upload hundreds of videos from all over Edinburgh, been driving here since 1982.
The traffic in 1982? Well it was slow.
Now every second driver is a speed freak, and every third driver is a psychopathic road rage nut.
We need to slow drivers down
If you get caught doing 50 in a twenty zone, you will be put where you should be.
Off the fkn road.
20mph is designed to increase fuel consumption to give greater revenue in fuel tax........my opinion
and increase pollution levels so more ULEZ type schemes can be justified etc
@georgeandvictoriam7151 and as we're in a lower gear & braking more often (creating more CO2 & Brake Dust in the AIR we're Breathing ) to avoid minor collisions as roads jam up during rush hours , Countries Being Run by Brainless Clowns
nonsense in new vehicles they all have an ecu and a ems controlling fuel injection for economy and emissions expelled, perhaps for a carburettor yes but those a few an far between these days, and all ems are programmed for fuel efficiency at all speeds and revs.
Just increase air pollution which gives them more evidence for net zero crap or whatever.
@@apocalypticweasel9078no it causes serious congestion and people have real trouble turning right in 20mph zones as traffic bunches together. You all become stuck and not everyone has start stop or uses it if they have. Car engines idling all over the place increases pollution fact!
This isn't driver vs non-driver.
This isn't town vs country.
This is government vs people.
No
Erm actually yes
It's the representatives of the people against the selfish.
@@stevec6427you are fully programmed
I bet you also got the vaccine because the government told you to as well 🤦
Agreed. War is inevitable.
It is a war on "free movement". Apparently those who preached "free movement" don't believe in it at all, at least not for you and me.
Only if you are a military aged male from "the global majority" (their words not mine) !!
Is it? How is this stopping you going anywhere?
@@stevec6427 It isn't directly. It is part of wider culture war: huge bollards blocking roads for LTNs, ULEZ, CAZ, 20mph limits, 15min cities, "vision zero".. even the highway code has been re-written as part of this culture war (needless to say feedback from the consultation was ignored as is usual in these cases). It is the equivalent of "constructive dismissal" in employment law: technically you are never fired, they just make your life as miserable as possible until you quit.
Free movement is the boats crossing the channel. Mosque's being built at an alarming rate, that's free movement.
Pay per mile, coming soon.
As the pollution levels caused by these actions rise should the idiots who implemented them be prosecuted.
Instead they will introduce more ULEZ type schemes
They get away with it because we don't have a problem in the first place. When you don't have a problem at 30 mph then going 20 mph means you don't have a problem end of.
It's like the EU making everyone buy a 600w hoover, takes twice as long to do the job there fore using more energy then using a 1200w over less time.. push push push into Thier / them great plan... 🤦🤷
@@Lostintranslation9037 Motors and vacuums are getting more efficient, just like everything else. 15 years ago I wouldn't have entertained the idea of having a car with less than a 2 litre engine but my current 1.2 is more powerful than the car I had back then and uses around half the fuel. Also lightbulbs, a modern 15w bulb is as bright as an older 80 watt incandescent bulb.
With the cost of energy now, surely using less has to be a good thing?
@@Lostintranslation9037Vacuum cleaners had to redesigned to make them more efficient. Same suction but less power needed to run them.
Has it become too hard for schools and councils to train children and illegal immigrants to cross the road properly? Look right, look left and look right again and if the road is clear... walk straight accross while still looking? Notwithstanding training pedestrians to stop and wait when there is a green light for traffic. And a very clear red sign telling pedestrians to stop and wait? Just a thought?
It would help if pedestrians were to actually look where they’re going and not have their eyes and faces stuck to their phones!
Well said 👏
The pedestrians of today , need to take walking tests .
Strolling across a busy road , looking neither left nor right , but glued to their iPhones , is now quite a common occurrence. 😮
I'd say , I've had at least half a dozen do just that , as I was approaching them still on the pavement..😡
Tuffty remember him
Yes. I remember that one. However there were hardly any cars on the road. Not that I agree with 20mph. It's stupidity
Saying publicly, like this, that you can get places just as quick at 20 mph is an insult to anyone's intelligence. Why is it OK to lie like this? Outrageous.
Because your unelected head of state traitor ECO King Charles has crept out the back door. VOTE REPUBLIC UK
Woketards do it all the time - they fear truth!
Be interesting to see how they justify this when the number of accidents increases and pollution spikes.
They will ban cars.
They will commission a "study" that backs them up using your money. Its called fraud
They will change it to 10 mph limit and expect a different result, lol.
Bikes banned next,then they will ban shoes,then knee pads
GET BACK IN YOUR POD AND EAT YOUR VEGGIE AND BUG SLOP ! 👿👿😈😈
Sadly "my grandad was a miner syndrome" will keep these lunatics in power in Wales no matter what they do to the people.
Exactly. There isn't a week that goes by where my mother doesn't mention the miners' strike, and she's used cognitive dissonance to justify the new 20 mph.
I've noticed the same mentality in chesterfield too, people blindly voting for the same party without question because they always have done .
Yep. It's a one party state and that's dangerous because they know they can do what they like with no consequence. It's happening too as Wales is falling apart.
What the F*** is. Going on
All part of the late Greedy Bettys 45 year UK caliphate legacy replacement plan. Back to the 12th century you go, doffing your cap, curtsying, and tugging your forelock into oblivion.
Drakeford turned his back on 6000+ consulted about the 20 limit Consultation which did not support the blanket 20 limit. Instead he went along with a much smaller survey of a 1000 of which 63% said yes to 20mph in the area where they live & used this to persuade the Senedd to support his foolish blanket 20 limit debacle.
Misleading the Senedd is a breach of the Ministerial code for which the First Minister would expect any other AM to tender their resignation.
In the Environment Bill consultation (May23) Ministers took the view that 2229 respondents may not be representative of Wales population. A Walesonline poll of over 6000 returned 92% opposed. Yet despite the foregoing, instead of calling for a broader representative poll, Drakeford went with the smaller sample which supported the narrative. On this basis alone 20 limit should be rejected outright.
Drakefords Law (20 limit) is based a range of assumptions and untruths which collectively add weight to his breach of the Ministerial code.
Welsh Assembly Ministers opposed to 20 limit should collate this information and call for Drakefords immediate resignation along with scrapping of the 20 limit debacle.
Drakefords Law is not fit for purpose
Sounds like drakeford is as bad as SAD DICK KHAN
You watch road rage and accidents increase ten fold
Maybe thats the plan
The only plus point, is you get the chance to come to your senses and vote these clowns out.
At this stage voting is pointless. Tory is just Labour lite. None of them work for us, they work for themselves and the WEF.
D'awwh, you actually believe votes has any real world consequences? That's adorable! ^.^
If voting actually meant anything, we wouldn't be allowed to do it.
4:10 "If you travel at 20mph you can travel 10 miles in about 15 mins." 🤣
So, I’ll take that as it calculates at 40mph! 😂
The Wales MP was on BBC Wales today. Said a 10 mile journey done at 20mph took only 2 minutes longer then it took at 30mph. Do the maths and you realise that these MP types are all failures in real world jobs so get a political degree so they can believe there own bull shit
Exactly! Can’t take these clowns seriously when they have no idea about what they are taking about.
I think what he means is you can travel to the centre of a 10 mile wide town in 15 mins, not right across it. However allowing for traffic lights and jams etc, this would be more like 25 mins I think
I knew he was a mucking foron when he started speaking so I didn't get that far.
I live in wales, and there has been a 20 mph sign installed and also the 40mph sign has been changed to 30 mph, so it looks like all speed limits are going to be reduced, I also think there will be a vast increase in road rage incidents, and I think I might cause a few because I will be driving at10 mph as a sign of protest.
Risk taker, I gonna stick at 5mph !
I live in cardiff david and what you say is correct 40 now 30 ,spot on mark s cdf
I think everyone should do the same. Crawl along at 10mph right across the country and cause massive congestion everywhere. It would be a brilliant protest. I start work at 9 o clock on Monday. I think I'll do it just to see the huge snake of cars piling up behind me!
Wales 20mph why ? = 20mph proven to be no safer than 30mph.
ICE cars stop at 30mph very quick.
It takes the very heavy EV Cars as long to stop at 30mph as it takes an ICE car to stop at 50mph.
20mph = EV cars cannot stop quick enough at 30mph - they are too heavy and too dangerous for 30mph roads.
So inreality the new road rulings 20mph and lots of 60/50 mph being lowered to 40mph should only apply to EV - this then puts them on par with ICE in stopping distances.
EVs have remote stop systems and are tracked so the tech is all already in place to just apply all the new lowered speed limits to EVs.
More Green communism policies 👍
Kier Starmer met with Klaus Schwab at the davos annual conference this year…. Cozied up with dinner dates… Sir Kier is a WEF subservient
LIEbour and the CONservatives. All the same really !!
They are all the same,how much was he paid by the WEF TO GO ALONG WITH THESE STUPID IDEAS
People used to have enough sense to know roads were dangerous. Unfortunately, now we play the blame game.
Why would you listen to a idiot that thinks you can drive 10 miles at 20mph in 15 mins!
This is the level of their intelligence, their commitment to ignorance is staggering.
I noticed this little gem too. Shame he wasn't picked up on it.
@philiphughes4117 I thought I could see nigel giggle at that point. Imagine it takes 2 hours just to drive just 40miles .
Exactly. That guy is old and long past his intellectual prime [ if there was any ]. Can`t do math and keeps rambling and repeating himself. He should rather focus on gardening instead of commenting on public matters.
@@chrishart8548 Yours is a very best case scenario on a road that follows the crow's straight flight path and that has no traffic lights or impeding traffic, etc. You can probably double that, even triple it, in London during business hours. I know delivery drivers are constantly stopping and making deliveries, but many would travel less than 40 miles in a day that can last more than 14 hours. And that's without a blanket 20mph speed limit to further slow proceedings. The problem is that even Labour politicians have lost touch with the labouring classes that move goods, including parts used to manufacture and repair, as well as finished goods, and provide mobile services. And time really is money for each business in the chain and every end consumer. This will not only burn more fossil fuel and disproportionately increase harmful emissions, but will also fuel inflation and create delays, frustration, and discontent. The politicians are either stupid or know exactly what they are doing. They may well be stupid, but they also know exactly what they are doing, and doing it regardless. Remember, they commission plenty of research, modelling, and consultancy reports. They know the science, but don't follow it. They know the economic impacts and ignore them. What they follow is the ideology, no matter the costs, no matter the negative impacts on people's lives. And the best they can do is manufacture virtual non-existent statistical deaths in a worst-case model. It is coordinated and choreographed chaos, and big business is in on it, too. When you are poor and own nothing, but not happy, the only means of resistance will be contained by locking down the ghettos, aka X-minute cities that are the antithesis of cities.
@@igorkratka A pair of Dr Scholl sandals and this month's copies of " Wine Ponce " and " Golf C *nt " magazines should be his prime concern, now he's in his dotage.
They will have cyclists in front of every car soon...with red flags! Fed up of the constant oppression and it's aimed at the easy targets. Big changes should be voted on.
Cars will take longer to reach destinations, more time on the road
Thats why motorway speeds should be increased , less time spent on the highest accident zones.
Exactly, more time on the road = more congestion, absolute lunacy.
@@ispy3836100 on the motorway everywhere for me if they have no speed cameras
A journey at 20mph takes 50% longer than one at 30mph
33% 30 MPH to 20 is a third reduction in speed.
The wef want to make u sick from vaccines to pollution to plastic food to water ,,,and there going to get all ur freedoms and democracy under the delusional climate waffle yes net zero and climate are tools used to get what rich billionaires want control and tyranny
@@Bill-Phuk You know Slash is right? 🤔
and 50% more cars on the road
From 20mph to 30mph is 50% faster.
From 30mph to 20mph is 33% slower.
I'm getting really concerned about all of this attacking car drivers. I live in a village and am registered disabled with a blue badge. I am unable to travel on public transport and can not walk far. It Seems that at some point I,m going to be housebound as this government hasn't thought about disabled drivers at all.
I am too wary about the dangers of electric cars with the known fact that they are a fire hazard so don't want one. I haven't got the physical ability to escape from a burning car in a hurry !
@@Peterbrendanalbertwhat a muppet 😮
That's the socailist plan. Ban cars.
Spot on. Just stay silent and wait for your Government Food Parcel brought by the friendly drone.
The WEF is more interested in getting military aged, able bodied males into this country. The disabled will not be considered "Diverse" enough for any help in the future. Make way for the new population who are considered better in every way !
I do hope there isn't a 10mph slow moving road block organised affecting all the major road networks around the country in protest, that would be truly awful!
I wouldn't want to hold people up, but it's tempting to do something like that. Protests rarely inconvenience our mighty leaders, sadly.
Sadly for the rest of you, that IS included in our (and other) groups proposed action! Stop/Start and a max. speed of 10 could be a bit naughty, especially for Southern England and London!
people will avoid these areas, shops and businesses will suffer.
Just don't pay fines. Not enough courts or prisons or police masquerading as humans
This is madness 😢😢
There are villages in the Scottish Borders with wide open areas, no schools, no shops, no pedestrians, yet everyone must follow each other crawling along at 20mph when they can see for 100 yards in every direction. It’s awful.
Check out the road traffic act 1930 😅 quite funny mass disobedience lead to the cameras and trap being made illegal that's when we used to have people with a backbone to stand up for what they wanted
The guy with glasses is no good at maths. 20mph means you can travel 20 miles in 1 hour, to do 10 miles at the same speed is 30 minutes not 15! The reality with all traffic travelling slower causing less vehicles getting through traffic lights timed for 30mph will mean a 10 mile journey across a town will take at least 40 minutes.
Just shows you the low level of intelligence you are dealing with.
Every single motorist in Britain should just remove their number plates. Refuse to pay fines and refuse to comply. Enough is enough.
I bet the accidents go up, as everyone will be watching the speed dial instead of the road.
Have you tried, driving at 20 mph? It's difficult.
Nobody takes account of the increased reaction times at 20mph . To maintain a speed that a car has not got the correct gearing to do easily takes more concentration on your speedo and takes your attention away from the road....
We will keep their lives short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.
It should be a human rights issue.
Anyone unfortunate enough to find themselves in Wales, it will now take them longer to get out of that Left Wing infected shit hole at 20mph!
So restrict trains to 20mph? Getting hit by trains isn't the same so they can go faster
and aircraft
Is this the beginning of the creep towards a 15 minute city? by limiting how far you can go within a certain time period?
This is going to make journeys longer, traffic queues longer higher pollution and higher fuel consumption- am glad I moved out of Wales, - sensible people drive within the limits and sometimes slower for the sake of safety but unfortunately there are way too many reckless idiots on the road.
This is going to add minutes onto the driving time of lorry drivers as we will be stuck in longer queues that are slower moving. So expect to see lorries stopped in stupid places as they have run out of time and have to take a legal break. People might just think well its only a few minutes. But a few here, a few there and its 30m in no time. So it could mean that a planned days deliveries that used to be possible, is now not legally possible.
Absolutely right. They haven't thought this through.
i do a run to the west end of london from lincoln im only 7.5t but its now not possible ,,and im sure if you live in a city your commuting time as gone up too. bet they do give us more driving time though
@theenglishtrucker1849 All part of the WEF plan to cripple the Country ,& Damage the Economy & Brow beat us into accepting what ever they want to impose on us , Aided & Abetted from WEF Supporting Buckingham Palace, down through Sunak & Khan the WEF Implementer through Parliament WEF Supporting MPs
Why would ques be slower moving? If congested roads don't get up to 20mph anyway then what difference does it make. Also, it'll cost you a minute every six miles that you could actually have been doing 30mph but probably only 30% of your time in a 30mph zone is actually doing 30mph anyway.
@@stevec6427you dont understand how tachos work.they're not that precise for the driver and will cost a lot of time over your driving week if you're unlucky enough to be in wales all day.i think the point trying to be made was,if your doing a combined drive of nose to tail,stop start then able to get to a clear bit of road but the limit is only 20 instead of 40 then it absolutely will make a difference
If drivers in wales including delivery drivers truckers etc:; stick at 20mph then within a few weeks wales will come to a standstill. Holiday makers will desert, shops will run out of stock, shift workers will not get to work on time, busses will be late, and the list goes on. Good luck Wales,👍 dont think this 20mph policy will last more that a few weeks.
I can only Pray and Hope this happens
My company is already going to be charging companies we deliver to in Wales a higher transport cost due to the extra time and fuel its going to take to do those deliveries, drivers could easily clear X amount of deliveries in South Wales on a day run, this new 20mph rule has just made it impossible so unfortunately Welsh Businesses will have to foot the bill.
@@jaybatsford No I think you mean its the customer/consumer that foots the bill 😉
Used to a cold and hungry future for the UK, now in Wales, a SLOW, cold and hungry future for the Welsh.
It will come to Scotland soon with the penalties being 5 times worse (ulez) it always is.
Another good reason to not go to Wales and spend your time and money in a part of the UK that appreciates visitors and tourists.
Funny though, cyclists don’t have to comply with speed limits!
Don't go to or invest in wales and don't waste your time with labour - they are costing you your job
I love Wales and have holidayed there many times. I had my very last holiday there this year, because I won’t be going back after 20mph speed limit has been introduced. I will miss beautiful Wales.
I would have cancelled a holiday in Wales in October but it’s already been paid for. I feel sorry for the tourism and hospitality sectors in Wales as this is going to seriously damage those sectors.
Just jump the border and travel no further. They've killed our tourism. Hotels are fully booked with people we have no idea who they are. Wales is destroyed and then in 2030 they will be taking our houses off us. Looney tunes R Us.
My thoughts exactly I won't be coming back again. I don't want the risk of inadertantly getting a speeding ticket. I'm sure speed cameras will be popping up on every corner.
Sold my car a couple of months ago. Sick of being ripped off by insurance companies, the price of fuel, garages Charing a fortune for repairs, ulez, speed camera’s parking wardens etc etc I could go on and on - I’m sure you get my point(s) I’m lucky I can get by without driving and feel sorry for those that can’t. It’s just one thing after another and a never ending cash - cow for anyone that wants their pound of flesh.
You did exactly what they wanted you to do
@@ancientartrevived maybe, but the alternative is to continue paying out a fortune and it just isn’t worth it for me, from a moral point of view and a financial point of view
The Welsh government seems to think it has to dictate many aspects of an individual's life. The trouble is due to the knee jerk voting for labour in Wales they'll probably get in next time as well. I just hope the police don't jump on it as a cash generator.
And a pulled over car by a cop slows traffic down even more.
NUTTERS !!
The whole idea is to DRIVE PEOPLE OFF THE ROADS because they hate the motorist...We NEED a change of government from Tory and Labour to a fairer more people orientated government
Sorry they need the revenue from motorists to be on the road.the fines bring in greater funds.thats what its all about money.
Vote Boris
It is all very well setting speed limits at low levels and using statistics as a reason, what they do not take into account is that a good proportion of those either killed or seriously injured are by those who totally ignore any set speed limits or any other driving restrictions and they will continue to do so unfortunately.
i expect they will be many more now
Put average speed cameras up instead . And if drivers are caught hiding they identity of the vehicle, ie number plates in front screens, or number plates that don't reflect. Crush there cars. Bring a devise out that can take a picture at road side to allow police to show number plate doesn't reflect, then have that car impounded until legal plates are installed.
I have a simple solution. Stop voting for the politicians who implemented this.
Statistically that doesn't do anything, anyone who gets in does the same as the previous for my entire lifetime and I'm 37
@@thejjjwils True which is why you need to vote for somebody else. Not Conservative, Labour, Liberals, SNP, Welsh Nat, Green or push for Proportional Representation. Will it work maybe not but if you vote for the above failure is guaranteed.
@@alanrobertson9790 I mean I wish that were true, but we wouldn't be here if any of the parties were different or we had any control over it beyond an illusion to think otherwise
If everyone went back to horse and cart, there would be a tax on horse shit.
Don,t worry King Charlie and his ECO Zio enabler ," friends," will be fine, and even richer. VOTE REPUBLIC UK
Better shit than the government is throwing at us.
Rod is that passionate in his answer that he has to read it off a script !!
So, some drivers will follow the limits, whilst others - most - will not. That’ll create frustration and anger, dangerous overtaking etc. It’s crazy.
And will over take you. As 20 mph is not enforced by the police or councils. Let alone drivers sticking to the current speed limits.
This will affect businesses badly, and people socially/emotionally.
Most car engines labour at these low speeds. Moreover, it means driving with constant speedo concern. Attending to the speedometer possibly more than the road ahead. It's bad news and another imposition on our liberty and freedom of movement.
This is a symptom of a society in steep decline.
Totally agree.
The Welsh political system will not survive this madness. Here in Wales we are absolutely sick of the current dictatorship. We have seen the lies employed during this consultation, so why trust the science, if there is any.
Imagine buses, taxis, twice as long to get to work and back home
Guess a taxi will cost more if it takes longer
ALL part of the late Greedy Bettys 45 year UK caliphate legacy replacement plan. ( Back to the 12th century we go ! )
Everyone who disagrees should get together and block all the london roads and tunnels with their cars and vans. The more we sit there and do nothing, the more they will pick on the motorists. We need to stand up
So what happens when all these elites can't speed in their cars or won't the 20 mph apply to them will they all up and move abroad.
course they will so would i , if i had the money provence for me
Don,t worry Eco King Charlie and his zio enablers will be just fine and even richer.
Nothing applies to them they only in it for the money
Why are people voting for this government, the voters need to take responsibility for there future
I’m so bored of all this crap I'm emigrating.
Try Zurich. NO ONE will dictate to The Schweitzer Deutschen that E.U. ECO concerns over rule Swiss Laws on freedom, banking, tax exemption, etc.
If it's safer to drive at 20 rather than 30, this must mean that there have been a significant number of deaths between those figures. I wrote to the transport section of my county council (Denbighshire) to get those statistics around a year ago. I have so far not received an answer.
Imagine the amount of money they will get in fines.
Were going to be millionaires rodney.
It's going to be a disaster time to revolt
The over Lords really want every one to be limited to a small geographical area like a Hunger Games as they chip away at the ability to move freely beyond that medieval Serf radius of a few miles.
Absolutely!! This is a about neo-feudalism, nothing more. Unless we get a Wat Tyler, we’ll all be powerless, immobile and silent.
10 miles wide will take 30 minutes at 20 mph NOT 15 minutes!! Go back to school.
Imagine the frustration and road rage epidemic...
I live near a big school, the parents parking out side the school block the roads to slow the traffic. Making it a 20mph zone did nothing. In 28 years I've not heard of any accidents before or after. It's total bull, it's just loonies running the show.
All the cameras need destroying. This isn't about the environment. It's about control. Enough already becasue this won't stop by complying. Wakey wakey people before its too late. Meanwhile on the Autobarn in Germany there's no speed limit.
It is not a "war on motorists" - it is a war on the working class.
Control..Control..Control
King Charlies unelected zio eco corp " friends" just love being in complete control.
So the Welsh Government has just decimated the Welsh tourist trade because no one will visit Wales now, I certainly won’t. It is also very bad for the environment because it means cars using a lower gear which is totally inefficient for the vehicle and creates more pollution. Labour will destroy the country. If I lived in Wales I would be voting every single Labour MP out of office. Rod, you have no idea.
Here in Belgium everywhere even the small cities is 30km/h the norm.
And the government has also given even the small towns to put speed camera's and fine anyone the drives 31 km/h.
Of course easy cash grab for all towns and cities, and abuse of the system.
And in a lot of cases you enter an 30km/h zone and you never saw the sign because it is tiny.
Driving at 30 km/h is very hard because you need to look at your dashboard none-stop. So you stop looking at the traffic, only your dashboard. 31 km/h and BAM fined.
Other observation is that people that want to speed, don't care about 30%km/h, they go full throttle making it dangerous for any pedestrian in the dark.
The 30 km/h has only thing in goal. Suck the motorist dry of money.
Lower speed limit > longer time per journey > increased traffic density > more pollution.
They've just destroyed any tourism revenue they had left, not to mention any outside trade for local busseness.
This is truly "game over" for any hope of rebuilding their economy.
Keep the knee of tyranny on your backs people.
Or just say NO.
Loved going on holiday to Wales but now it's going to take too long to get through the country to get to the coast,so now I'll be heading to the south west for my holidays.
As far as I remember, to introduce a change to the normal national speed limit, there has to be proof that there will be a reduction in casualties (you cannot just say there will be) so why is nobody going through the road traffic rules to check that what they are doing is legal. Don't take a politician's word for it as they are the least likely to have a clue. Someone(Westminster?) should be looking at this via the courts if necessary.
Labour might be passionate about it, but the members of the public aren’t, and that’s why Mark Drakeford will be voted out, come the next election
20mph won't save the environment because now delivery firms will have to put out more vans and lorries to get the same amount of goods delivered
Surely emissions will increase with cars moving at 20mph? They will be on the road longer and less efficient.
If a car hits you. WTF are you doing in the road?? Why is it the cars fault?
All absolutely bonkers cars are not designed to run at 20 mph use more fuel not good
An independent study by a Scottish university found a "negligible" difference between casualties in 20mph areas & 30mph areas - *THIS IS ALL ABOUT NICKING YOUR MONEY!* 😠
Labour has turned into a gang! At least street gangs don't steal/fine the elderly for driving at 24 mph on a road (patch) that's been 30 mph for decades. Shame on Labour!!!
Gangs also don't pretend to be something they're not.
People don't stick to 30 so why should a 20 limit make a difference.
You can fine more people for speeding,more revenue!
The council painted a 20 on the road right outside my gate, and nobody pays any attention to it. A pure waste of paint.
The whole of Wales is now in the slow lane. Good luck with that.
nothing new
It's actually NOT 20MPH.... To avoid exceeding 20 you have to do 17!!!
But it is a very good distraction away from all of the other issues we have in Wales including the worst NHS waiting lists in the Uk. No vision no strategy just inward looking policies which are only going to get worse
Labour has lost Wales.