GAME SINS | Everything Wrong With Horizon: Zero Dawn
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The focus isn't like a Bluetooth earpiece it's supposed to interface with your brain that's why they see stuff.
Ryan Hellsing the focus is like a bluetooth, they just have a bullshit reason why its not supp ok sed to be.
@@trahapace150 Did you have a seizure during the last part?
@@roguedruid yea
@@trahapace150 it connects to your brain, it's showing you things and describing them that not all can understand, does Bluetooth do that
@@venmen523 I think his point is exactly "You can't attach a fucking earpice directly to your brain"
It's overwhelmingly clear that you never actually played this game.
lil115slayer mindlessly xdd
Stop getting butt-hurt you whiney ass fanboy. Its their JOB to provide sins for entertainment. If you don't like it, don't click the video.
You completely misinterpreted what I said. There are a number of valid sins this game has, but there were many that he gave sins to that were pretty clearly explained if he did actually play the game.
you can follow him on Twitch and watch him play all these games live
Roe Sham Boe That's good to know, but at the same time this video gives the vibes that he speedrun this game without reading or hearing any of the audio logs that add to the story. In my opinion it just felt like he wanted to finish the game so he could put up the video since at the time the game was really relevant, and it was getting a lot of views, and people wanted to know more on the good and what might be wrong with the game. Granted this is just my point of view so if I'm wrong then feel free to correct me.
For me personally, I think it's like mashed 10% of true sins and 90% of subjective or made up sins, and cover it up with his fast talk.
thank you, I can definitely agree with this.
Especially when half of the subjective sins are things that are explained later in the game.
Thats almost a perfect description of this channel. There is also the fact of how many things he gets wrong.
For me personally, I think it's like Sony fanboys are crying butthurt pussies
@@JohnBatman111 the one who came and called people butthurt pussies yeah totally
11:11 Gaia's creations imitate life, including the noise from predatory actions.
THANK you
They're ANIMALS!! WHY wouldn't they growl??!
@@colbypatrick8910 I feel like he didn't actually play the game, Gaia isn't an unfeeling creator, she loves animals, when she made her robots in the image of extinct animals, many who she didn't have the gene sequences to bring back, she did so with actual love and care for the animals they resemble, so of course they sound like them
@@override367 Yeah, sure. Gaia creating terraforming bots...and recreate a roar BEFORE ATTACK. Before attack with a mounted gun.
From the wikipage:
The Sawtooth is a machine in Horizon Zero Dawn. It is a medium-sized COMBAT Class machine, one of the first known machines of this class. It was developed by the artificial intelligence (AI) HEPHAESTUS as a graduation in its efforts to PROTECT Zero Dawn terraforming machines from human PREDATION.
A Sawtooth and a Ravager being able to growl makes perfect sense. It is an intimidating sound.
" if I were carrying an infant I wouldnt walk straight through a feild of deadly machines that could kill me at any moment ".... Im sorry but at this point in time the machines are peaceful when aloy is an adult is whem they are deadly. In game it is stated 15 or 20 years ago the machines were peaceful and would run from a hunter/huntress but when she is growing they are getting more aggressive and dangerous. As an adult they are deadly and would attack anyone on sight....
That's true! But, in the intro they show Thunderjaws which were created AFTER machines became hostile toward humans, if I remember correctly. I think they just wanted to show off cool looking machines in the intro haha.
When GAIA was destroyed , the program that manfactured machines HEPHAESTUS started manufacturing combat machines and changed the behaviour of other machines to hostile
Yeah actually when Aloy was baby machines were friendly
@@TigerManSolos actually she was born after the derangement, like 5 seconds after
@@thedeadratinthecornerofmyr172 No, the lore shows that it took time for HEPHAESTUS to start producing combat machines to counter human hunting. It was never instant. Some people you talk to even outright tell you that the machines got more aggressive over time in dialogue.
3:33 Those aren’t the machines they lost the war to...
True but Aloy still takes down corruptors with the bow, sling, spear, etc.
@@cooldude-lc9ih 800 year old corruptors... that are still effectively immune to just shooting with your bow, you can use Blaze weapons to overheat them or blow them up. Thing is, the machines were relatively easy to defeat in the Old World, the problem was that the titans would just repair them or build more, and they had unlimited numbers
@@override367 and most important of all, humans couldn't use any weapon with a circuit in it cuz they were easily hacked by the machines
@@cooldude-lc9ih also a corrupted hell bringer at the end of the game and a not broken hell bringer later into the normal game
@@cooldude-lc9ih it was probably harder for "the old ones" because the machines used biomass as fuel back then, as far as I know this didn't happen in the 31st century since Minerva sent the codes
I love this game. My only nitpick is Aloy dismantling the shield weaver armor instead of wearing it as it is.
What's the big difference as the suit the data logs said the shield failed at high impact in game combat it still fails if it takes high impact then needs to regenerate so she made a project that was never finished lighter and more stealthy as that grey suit isn't hiding nobody in red grass
@@lowgrav5900 It's a cosmetic nitpick. I do still like Aloy's version. I was just hoping to get the armor as is when I unlocked it for the first time. It doesn't ruin the game in any way for me. I was just slightly disappointed that's all. I'm a sucker for high tech armor.
im confused why she left elizebets armor
@@itissnipez1670 respect for her dead “mom” ?
@@blakemtg47 Not Mum, CLONE, genetically identical!
The real question is "Why did Elizebet NOT have RED hair?"
And please no comments on Dyeing the hair to platinum blonde, IT DON'T WORK!
The ancients could have used gene therapy to change the hair colour BUT that would have resulted in Aloy inheriting the platinum Blonde hair.
16:57 They don't know anything about greek mythology, Hades is just what it was called by it's creators.
Exactly. It's not even hidden in the lore why this is. Also where's the part where he complains about Gaia and all the other AI getting Greek names? Too many of these sins were caused by stupidity and lack of effort.
I mean Gaia isn't from captain planet, it's from Greek mythology haha
I am surprise that he didn't sin the fact that all of the expect one of the AI subroutines were named after Greek gods and goddess, the only one Minerva, is the Roman Goddess of Wisdom her Greek equal is Athena.
well thats more of just a theme i guess not worthy of sinnin
Yes but this depiction of Gaia is quite similiar to the one from Captain Planet.
cuz illuminati uses greek and Egyptian mythology.
I know but it sounds more funny when he mentions captain planet hence why he said it dood XD
16:58 Yeah but when you find Gaia you find out that Hades was one of her components created before the extinction when people still knew about Greek Mythology
Yep. Which is ridiculous, how the "heavy metal" dude was the one in charge of the Hades coding. It's like every male character in this game are either evil or assholes, it's not subtle at all
@@RRRRRRRRR33 the woke aspect of the game is annoying. Every man except for Rost is either evil or a pushover. There is no evil feminine character at all in the game, they are all woke, badass, empowered women.
@@scratchy996 Even Rost have a dubious past, he killed a lot of people for revenge and etc.. The only male character in the entire game that seems to be decent, a legit good person, that's the guy we rescue right at the intro of the game. People can say whatever they want about "diversity", mainstream media indeed objectified women, the white male is usually the protagonist, etc.. Ok, but they also depicted the same white male in a evil role, the same sexualized female also had less sexualized roles, etc.. It's silly, but I understand why some people feels this necessity of being "represented"... But goddamn, do it in a more subtle way, it is really that hard? When they force things up, it is insulting for both the audience who are not attached to these "ideals" and also for the people who wants representation. Even Tomb Raider of all things, it is poorly written in comparison to Horizon, but at least TR presents stereotypes performing multiple roles, good/evil females and males alike. When they force the issue, it's basically a scenario were fanaticism is used to fight fanaticism, it makes no logical sense. I glad there is a game that finally presented a good female protagonist, but the fact everything else is so fanatical... It kinda hurts the experience a little bit. Too on the nose, blatantly... It's an insult for our intelligence
@@RRRRRRRRR33 are you sure it's not you who's being fanatic about your ideals? I ask because i just finished the game just the other day and not for a second i payed attention to this irelevant aspect you're speaking of. There was nothing being forced down my throat, i just saw it as a regular narrative with good and evil characters and couldnt have cared less about their gender. So, just check to see if it isnt you who is thinking through this too much. And, btw, there was one of the old ladies from the village who tryed to stop Aloy that you could say was a "villain" of sorts. So... yeah.
@@gustavobitencourt8200 All the major villains in this game are male, this is a simple fact, even the AI is male. The DLC for example, when you finish that story arc and banish the evil AI, guess what, a female AI takes over. Zero subtly, another dumb example, the sun king: He looks like a decent person at first, but then out of nowhere he hits on Aloy like a construction worker. It's a completely pointless moment, the guy can’t be a respectful king from beginning to end? That's not his archetype? This kind of biased writing is clear for everyone to see. And imo, this is a fanatical behavior because the intention is to highlight the female characters by antagonizing everything else. What kind of twisted concept is that? It’s so exaggerated, Elisabet Sobeck is more sanctified than Jesus and Buddha combined, she doesn't have a single setback in the entire plot, a saint from beginning to the end. The game is decently written, nothing extraordinary but it sure is above average compared to the usual sandbox trash. But this biased depiction of protagonists and antagonists is something childish, to say the least. If you want a simple allusion, old mythologies like the own Greek folklore that this game blatantly “copied”… they depicted women as purely evil, the whole thing about Pandora opening the prohibited box, Hera antagonizing the children of Zeus and etc… But this is a 2700+ years old tale lol For a writer in the 2010s trying to enact “revenge” on an obsolete and superannuated myth… by repeating the same themes without any kind of subtlety, they are basically walking backwards, we are supposed to be better than a underdeveloped civilization. 4000 years writing stories and we will repeat the "sex war" over and over again, such a waste
4:49 he was watching her the whole time, dork. Obviously. Aloy's honorary father isn't gonna miss her running in the proving.
That was so obvious. His "sins" make no sense most times. I'm guessing he'd just say fuck his daughter and go about his life if it was him
Am I the only know the rost was gonna die even the games is new to me never watched a playthrough or video about it
Aloy even guesses that a bit after she wakes up, so even if he wasn't smart enough to figure that out, he should still find out by just.. playing the game
@@diannemichellecabrera2123 hundreds and hundreds of stories are written like this. The "guide" of the protagonist ALWAYS dies. It'd nothing new.
That scene when Aloy repeats the happy birthday message and the dad giving love to his child is pretty heartbraking, tbh
Get a life
One of the best games I've ever had the fun of experiencing.
Ivan G. I see you're unfamiliar with the concept of subjectivity mate.
[insert generic legend of zelda comment here]
ok no need to get triggered it's called satire
Uncaring Bastard I see you're unfamiliar with objectivity
557deadpool I don't think you know how this works lad. I've played dozens upon dozens of games. I practically grew up with my pc and my Playstation 2 and 3. So I'd say that I'm allowed to state my opinion, or at least a little, which is my right as a human being anyway. And my opinion is that this game is amazing. And if you refer to a video game, a form of entertainment, as objectively bad (or whatever you think of it), you're simply put: a total moron. Entertainment is the most subjective thing on the planet, and to deny that, is to live in a tight box, unwilling to accept any opinion that differentiates from yours. And that would mean that you have no right to speak your mind about anything from a critical standpoint. Because if you think that any form of entertainment is objectively good/bad/whatever you might think, that's stupidity incarnate.
+557deadpool I see you're unfamiliar with originality.
Clearly he hasn’t played this game enough
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Yes
I can understand more of this game then him and I didnt bother with the lore
It's annoying how fast he goes through each sin
i mean i have the game too and I agree with him completely, like not to ride hard but if was there during the process like he would've made the game better story wise speaking
Dude these would actually be entertaining if you would point out actual sins. I thought I would be able to laugh and agree with a lot of these but it was just annoying how you kept ignoring parts of the story that explains your ‘sins’
@Ned Kelly gotta disagree, I ain't just some ps4 fanboy trying to defend the game, I played on the PC port and my god I fucking loved the game so much, near perfect, this guy genuinely is just making artificial sins just by excluding context.
one of the worst things I have to say about the game is that the PC port was absolute ASS, my high-end hardware was only running 30fps at fucking 1080p and even then the framerate dropped sometimes, I still managed to finish the whole game and I fucking love it so much but this guy is just making shit up
@@avawyllie7099 The game released at the same time than Zelda Breath of the wild, so you can guess there was an army of BOTW fanboys to say it was shit and invent false reasons all over, this video sounds pretty much like those guys
@@mitsunitaiko1742 yeah, the confusing part was that some of the sins were just jokes, like, he said a joke, and then a sin got put on? what sin was committed?
@@avawyllie7099 and he also put a sin on Ashly Burch, I could buy someone not liking Ashly Burch but he made it clear in previous videos that he liked her voice, so what the hell was that?
@@mitsunitaiko1742 I mean, MAYBE cos it just sounded WAY too much like her life is strange character, like shockingly similar
The most illogical thing is where that rope comes from when you jump (on those specefic spots, you know) and that Alloy can't use it to descend safely anywhere else.
Or the fact that gigantic non-areodynamic storm birds can sit there hovering in place and squawk for five minutes while you shoot their pinion feathers off them one at a time. The gravity defying finishing attacks of spiderman in early PS4 games have more respect for the laws of physics.
That said, I still love the game and think most of the stuff in the OP video is BS.
@@AnthroJoe I recall them having a bunch of turbojets so hovering isn't that unlikely.
Fair point
@@absolutehuman951
SPOILERS AHEAD.... Though if you're watching this video you probably don't care.
3:32 That's wrong. The Faro virus that wiped out humanity was made up of other machines like the Deathbringers. The vast majority of the machines you fight in this game were made by GAIA, after the Old ones die. Sure a bow may not do the deed as effective as it seems to, but they aren't the same machines regardless.
13:00 Just guessing, When the first humans were born, they were taught English (hence why they speak it) by the AI parents in the Cradles. In other words, the glyphs may be based on some language that does exist, I don't know.
13:30 Yeah, that was pretty bad.
14:51 He kept her alive because Dervahl loved her. You know this because Sun-King Avad talks about it at the end. Sure it's a shitty way to treat someone you love, but people do shitty things.
15:44 Not true. He was also jealous that Ersa wanted Avad and not him.
16:57 It was given that name by the Zero Dawn project. All the parts are named after Greek gods.
17:50 While definitely plot convenient, those were the only files that weren't corrupt. The automated system that retrieves them says as much.
20:14 Two problems, One, in the old times, there were a hell of a lot more than one Deathbringers at a time. Two, they also had the Titans, the big ass frozen machines you see in the mountains. If i recall correctly they acted as mobile machine constructors as well as killing machines.
21:56 As Sylens explains, he can hijack into focuses. That's what he does to talk to Aloy. But the elimination of the network means that the Eclipse can't talk.
25:12 This is just bugging me it's Helis like Heel( of your foot) then iss.
26:09 It's the only name she had though. It's not like GAIA had any knowledge of the name Aloy
26:46 Hence the unforseen catastrophe. HADES only knows how to destroy, and has no knowledge that the current world was a success, and it doesn't care. So once it's free, it does the only thing it can.
32:54 It's technically been 542,000 years. A voiceover at some point says that Elizabet wast that many years late for her appointment. In other words. Extra ridiculous.
Sorry, but nitpicking breeds nitpicking.
That was at Maker's End, and it was saying Elizabet was 300,000 days (~1000 yrs) late for her appointment. The data logs show that Aloy was born in 3021, the events of the "metal world" occured in 2064/2065.
13:30 People get killed in the wild, found, and carted back to their tribe; it's the specific end point of the tracks that was hidden. The Shadow Carja don't do things as elaborate as moving bodies to hide their actions and the Sun Carja, who likely had never thought of something like that either, didn't think that anyone who plays tricks like that would be responsible
Ownificate hours. the robot voice says hours.
what I got from 300.000 hours to years converter 34.2465753
Ownificate way to go bro !! Great job!
If Rost was Kratos he would not be down for Aloy's bratiness. He would say, "It's dangerous Boi... I mean GIRL!"
"you are not ready for the journey... i mean the proving, boi"
"but I'm a girl"
"i have spoken, boi"
Is it just or god of war got some ideas from this game
@@hassanawdi3793 GoW got ideas for tlou
If rost was Kratos that game would’ve never happened, helis would’ve been dead from the very start
Dude, so many of these “sins” were him trynna make jokes.
That’s the point😂😂, stop taking this shit seriously.
I only take the sins that come off as actual criticisms seriously, I leave the others alone
@@aqeelraja4750 he's very bad at it.
Just shows how solid this game really is. It's hard to find any legitimate faults in the gameplay or story.
@@aqeelraja4750 So by your own logic Dartigan could say anything and no one has ANY reason to criticize 'cos it's all "just a joke". That is so fucking weak.
The title of this video should be: "desperately grasping for straws"
Lmao right.
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Dude didnt even play it... Ross...1000 years ago... Everything he said was based on cutscenes and pre release gameplay videos...
People vote for games for him to sin, and often times they will vote for good games, so then he has no choice but to grasp for straws in order to be able to make a video. But that being said, this game does have some silly stuff in its plot that one can definitely sin.
@@ivanasukjadic1423 ye the plot is very unrealistic, especially the old ones lore, but regardless the story, the world, the tribes and even the back story is pretty solid
My one problem with this vid was at sin 20 where you said aloy could kill a previously bullet impervious machine with a bow. These machines were made after the fall of humans by project zero horizon with the intent that they would make the world able to live in again by emitting oxygen and depositing the seeds of trees and plants. They were not made for fighting, except for thunderjaws which exist to kill possibly reawkoned corruptors. Corruptors were the only machine involved in humanitys downfall, and you can note that their outer hull is very damage resistant. only fire can damage it well and expose its weak points.
Sawtooth, Ravagers, Scrappers, Thunderjaws all seem to have been made after GAIA split, meaning they started to be designed to protect the other robots, hence all the guns.
Alex And Thunder Never thought of it that way. I guess thats why you never see any robots trying to kill each other.
+Alex And Thunder Technically scrappers break apart machines and recycle them, it's why their mouth's are shaped like that, but yeah, Thunderbird's, Thunderjaw's, Longlegs, Watchers, Ravagers, and some others appear to have been made to protect the machines. And yes, the previous statement is correct, for example, Metal Devils, by far the largest and likely most powerful of the three peacekeepers (the other two being Corrupted and Deathbringers), were completely unsalvageable after the thousand years and are only found in ruin. In addition to this, the first encountered Deathbringer was immobile and far weaker those encountered since. The small amount of machines encountered proves that many of them may have just eroded beyond use in the the hundreds of years, and likely none of them could have been nearly as powerful as they once were.
glinthhawks are the same with scrappers they recycle the destroyed animals.
Saw a few eating the scraps of a Ravager.
Purple Swift Sawtooth, Ravagers, Stalkers and Thunderjaws were all produced after GAIA blew herself up and HADES took partially control over HEPHEASTUS.
Hence they are violent and have guns all over them.
Scrappers were made for protective and recycling reasons
Sin #16: The tribe speaks english
Well, yeah. there's a logical reason for this. Same reason with why every tribe have diversity of races within them.
[Spoiler beyond this point]
The machine that spreads humans, all gender and races, also taught them all to speak english.
That's why there's a diversity of races but no diversity of languages.
integerrandom well said I read another review with a person was mad that aloy had an English accent and she sounded like a modern 20th century American Girl... if they had paid attention the game this all makes extreme sense
I get that but after 1000 years these separate tribes of people would have developed different languages or at minimum different accents
JM they weren’t there for thousands of years. If memory serves Logs in the All Mother facility near the game’s end reveal its been like 300 years since the adolescents inside were released. I don’t want to be verbose with lore but to my understanding the whole Horizon project had a long time where there was no life on earth. after that terraforming began while humans were being cultivated from stored zygotes. In the various bunkers people were taught a limited spectrum of information bc Ted Faro’s whack ass deleted the data file tied to re-educating the restored population. eventually those folks had to leave when resources were depleted, being loosed into the world without the skills or technology they were anticipated to have. Bc that they regressed into tribal societies.
Setting is in north america....
Tbf they totally should have wasted ages inventing a brand new language from scratch - having it in English is so unrealistic, unlike the massive robot animals that litter the earth
This sci-fi story set in the far future has technology that hasn't been invented yet. I call shenanigans!! (seriously????)
@@BerserkGoblin Dude you what? he just said the video was wrong. also technological advancement stood still during those thousands of years since you know... everyone was dead. Only Aloy and i think Silence actually knew and improved the tech everyone else was just like. IT'S A GOD!
@@BerserkGoblin The point redriguez was making was that the sin included in the video was stupid bc of course new technology would be there. The video was at fault
@@bobfjoeg9977 I realise that now, sorry
Technology that was developed by Gaia and her subordinate functions over that period, there's even a hologram explaining it.
They did teach English, in one of the holograms we can se caretaker robots raise the first humans in horizon, and they taught them English
And 17:05 they didn't know Hades is greek, he was programmed back in the 21st century so he says his name is Hades
while the english part is a true sin since apollo got deleted. I stopped listening to him once he talked about HADES his name
@@quintenmc Right, that's a major flaw in the story all together: if Apollo was deleted completely, the first humans should be living like cave men, but here they have achieved a level of technology similar to the Middle Ages within a few centuries. Also, the first humans would not have spoken ANY language and not known how to survive in the wilderness. They would obviously have died if they were just let loose into the world. They should have made Ted Faro erase only the advanced technological understanding, nothing else. That would also have been a far more rational decision.
Robert De Groot did you actually play the game, there’s an entire section that explains this.
@@robertdegroot8302 I mean, they spent more than a decade with english-speaking servitor robots in the Cradles before being forced to brave the wilderness, any baby would logically just pick it up over the years. So yes, they would speak a language, especially english.
Now going from helpless adults with preschool level education to forest-dwelling hunter-gatherers in huts to feats of engineering on the level of Meridian in the span of centuries is definitely a bit more of a stretch, but they at least had language. They pretty much only had language.
@@natchu96 yes and that why the others (like the King or méridiens) write with hieroglyphes and not with english. it is also commun that not everyone know how to read and write
A lot of these sins are explained in game. The animal-bots are not the same robots that destroyed the world many years ago, and They explain that child outcasts can run in the proving.
You got me on the Focus still having power, though.
you find the focus in a sunlight area of the cave, perhaps it's runned by solar energy or the weak electric field of the body!
Christian Müller I assumed it was powered off of the body. It looked like it had tendrils or something that formed a connection with the skin/brain. Aloy reacted with pain when she first touched it to her temple.
but it was lit up on the 1000 year old corpse (may be closer to 900) but that corpse wouldn't have an electric field.
If it does work with solar power, it's a convenience sin that the roof broke in that one convenient spot.
I really did enjoy this game, though.
Wriest Heart Ah, Vantages were one of the collectables I did not finish.
I think he said WHY can child outcasts do The Proving? They have been shunned and ignored by the tribe their whole life as a child and teenage so why can they do participate in The Proving
JD Cantu Because that's in their rules. any child outcasts can return and run in the proving to earn their place. Adults cannot do this as it's assumed they know better.
I'm surprised that Aloy being a pun on "alloy" wasn't a sin.
JMS With the amount of nit picking going on in this video,I'm surprised aswell.
He wanted to be original and make a joke about Olay instead
OdysseusThinking Sound like an angry fanboy
And her father's name is Rost. One letter off from rust.
Lady Marmalade It's a naming theme. Like Rock and Roll in Megaman.
Completely disagree with 95% of these. And half of them are you just describing the scene.
@@crouchjump5787 most of these thigs are explained by the story if you play the game.
Welcome to most sin videos ever.
@@nomore3346 ya these videos are meant as a joke yet people get offended (and I love this game btw)
Whattt they’re talking about the story I gotta give a sin
In about 12:00 he literally contradicts himself on two sins following each other, first for cliche of mentioning dead family member but then when Erend points out that it it is just a silly cliche that people do he sins that as well, I was just about done with this then...
He walked near the robots in the begining because it was before they became blood-thirsty ,as it was explained that they were harmless 20 years ago (when Aloy was a baby ,I believe)
To be fair, a lot of these "sins" are quite easily explained by the story. Also about the focus, in the year 2060 they had machines that could self replicate and use biomass as fuel. I don't think it would be so far fetched for a machine that magnetically attaches to your temple to be able to interface with your neural network and affect images around you, or have some form of power source that lasts through the ages.
@Daenon Janis
"I don't think it would be so far fetched for a machine that magnetically attaches to your temple"
I do... Your cranium is not ferritic. In fact your skull/brain/blood are diamagnetic. Meaning that when applied to a magnetic field they are repelled by the magnetic forces. So, if anything, creating a magnetic field that strong would force the device off your body.
...But, hey, I'm not a fan of Horizon: Zero Dawn because I passed middle school level science courses and realize shit writing when I see it. Also, the game itself never happens because EMP works on the robots and humanity just NEMPs the ionosphere and Ted Faro faces the next decade in a courtroom before he even begins to face his jail sentence.
And that's the only way Horizon: Zero Dawn works as a game - you ignore basic science and take plot contrivances as reasoning. This is how we get shit entertainment, people. To the point where people actually think that a thousand year old headset would still be working and powered and able to be used by anyone by MAGNETICALLY ATTACHING IT TO THEIR SKULL SOMEHOW despite their own phone having a passcode on it to prevent anyone from casually picking it up and doing anything with it it (and rarely lasting more than a few years of use without something killing it and a few days without a charge). I guess if I was willfully that moronic I would clap at Horizon: Zero Dawn as entertainment akin to a parent jingling keys in front of their infants, too. And, worse yet, people will defend this garbage writing because they no longer utilize critical thinking and accept "it makes sense because the story tells you it makes sense" as justification.
I used to think that the humans of Horizon: Zero Dawn were dumb, but no. I realize that the humans here in the real world, of today, are by far much more dumb. Say what you will about humanity of HZD - they may have killed themselves and been able to prevent it and simply chose not to (because shit writing), but at least they were able to create such robotics in the first place.
Emps didn't work because they recreate and repair faster than you can launch the next emp. End you would basically emp yourself and make yourself vulnerable.
@Blueblackdragon
"Emps didn't work because they recreate and repair faster than you can launch the next emp. End you would basically emp yourself and make yourself vulnerable."
EMP didn't work because the shit-tier writers didn't think of it. Also, no. EMPs would kill the robots of the swarm and if they were "repairing" and recreating faster than an NEMP (which can cover entire continents) can kill them, the Earth would've been conquered in days or weeks, not ~16 months like we see. If an NEMP was used over Australia before any of the Faro swarm left the continent, the war would've been over right then and there. (And it took time for this to happen, Faro was stalling and trying to prevent it and Elizabeth just went full "OH GOD, WE'RE ALREADY DEAD!" mode, like a moron.)
Also, no again. EMP has zero effects on human bodies. And, being the ones launching the nuclear EMP you have the benefit of knowing WHEN it will occur and putting any sensitive equipment or supplies in faraday caging.
Shit plot filled with plotholes is shit and filled with plotholes, Please realize this.
@@matchesburn take in nobody read what you said
@@matchesburn The world building accounts for NEMPs. Even with our tech we know how to harden systems against NEMPs -- there's tranzorbs (when voltage spikes above a threshold, these devices can cascade and short the line to ground to prevent frying the main system) and there's a bunch of existing know-how about building military grade, hardened electronics. It's easy to imagine: a military electronics production company supplying products for all the most advanced militaries of the world accounting for something this basic of an idea with hardened systems and whatever reasonable extrapolations there are for the future.
3:35 (ish) Yeah but the old ones had to fight thousands of corruptors and deathbringers all at once. Which were unlimited by the way. They "ate" every living thing and took them by surprise.
I get that it's hard to believe that such primitive people manage to kill these things, but they've lived alongside the machines for generations. Plus, the sin is given when Aloy kills a strider. Striders are agricultural machines created by the life-creating AI to save this world. Corruptors and death bringers are war machines that came in the thousands. And the ones we encounter later in the game are still damaged due to time spent underground.
Uncaring Bastard Yeah Dartigan was sloppy with these sins. Still a nice video tho
Uncaring Bastard This logic require too much outside thinking for it to make sense. Dartigan sin is out of common knowledge. Shooting a bow at a robot would only work in games, comics or if your the Green Arrow but would never happen in real life. This is also considering what type of metal these new machines are made of and how small their weak spots are.
Deadpoolrockz6 Aloy makes her arrow tips out of metal shards from the machines. So it makes sense that they can pierce through their armor
Deadpoolrockz6 Exactly what the Dolphin in a rush said.
Uncaring Bastard hehehe
Everything wrong with zero Dawn?
Didn't even watch it because there is NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS MASTERPEICE!!
Brother i am with you
Never subscribe to this guy
U must be drunk
Agreed. Some people love to be contrarian
While agree that game is one of the best things released in a long time. You gotta take these videos with a grain of salt, yeah he delivers them dead pan; but I doubt he hates everything. It's just what the channel is about and you gotta go with what was popular to get the views.
I had subtitles turn off for this one because I thought I was good enough in English.
For quit a while until in-game, display her name, I thought her name was Alloy.
Which I thought was very smart and funny.
it's actually a joke of the creators, Rust and Alloy, Rost and Aloy.
ah 19 is debatable. they couldnt kill the robots not because they were hard to kill but because they were self replicating faster then they could be killed. And there was no code that could break it .
Lil Mermaid Many of these are debatable
There was a code but it would have taken 50 years to read it and they only had 16 months or so before they would all die thats why they made the zero dawn project
Ever hear of emp? That does wonders to electronics.
@@kingpickle3712 I would imagine a state of the art robotic army would be designed with counter measures for emp.
@@silkychan6099 If it were that easy. Satellites are designed that way and yet they still get destroyed if the EMP is strong enough. Those robots aren't big enough to be EMP-proof.
This doesn't take place a thousand years ago, this takes place in the future!
Yupp, 1000 years in the future, not the past. It is irritating listening to this
he never played the game he does not know.
Listen to his commentary again, “... destroyed by robots one thousand years ago “
I have the impression that this video was compiled by someone who didn't play the game. Pretty much everything is explained throughout the plot
You must be fun in the party
Fuck off
Maybe because he made this for entertainment and its not meant as a serious review?
Throwing my "most of these sins are readily explained within the internal logic of the game" onto the pile with the rest. About 5% of these were legitimate and made me scratch my head though. And the rest are just completely natural and forgivable story telling devices. You have something against time skips and montages?
Don't forget he seems to have something against cliches. Not like they're in everything.
I’m surprised he didn’t do the side quests too one of them had the classic “my eyes are up here cliche” if that even is one at this point
Some are stupid even, like questioning how they can take down machines with a bow when the same machines defeated humans with guns, but the thing is that those are not the same machines that extincted humanity, and if he had played the game he should've know that
Im kinda amused by how many things that get complained about early on are things that get explained later in the game... (this game's good at that)
2:04 it’s against the law to even speak with outcasts.
They talk to Rost. Twice. They could have told him, but didn't. Because of... actually, there's no real reason to not tell him that he might be raising either the daughter of the metal devil or the savior born from the all-mother. That seems like super relevant info for him to have in either way.
26:09 It’s not like she’s gonna call her aloy. Aloy is a clone of sobeck made in order to access all the terminals and ruins necessary to disable hades and repair her, and seeing as this same A.I basically re-build the planet and recorded this message in ‘3 micro seconds’, I think we can assume Gaia knows aloy would understand who sobeck is and that she’s really referring to her
3:15 - the New Dawn operation grew new humanity by using robots who taught first people using English
Ok, even as "entertainment" there are a shit ton is "sins" that were just _created_ for the sake of you giving some kind of punchline. I eye rolled the most watching this. Horizon explains practically everything you deemed a sin.
I think one of the only things that's not explained is where the signal came from. And that's clearly for the sequel. Horizon is not perfect, but it's a lot more polished than this video would have you believe. You're just straight up removing context to artificially create sins. I think your videos can do better than that.
I Agree.
''Horizon explains practically everything you deemed a sin.''
Nope
Dam DibiDum most of them are
Leave him, i tink he's Brain is farting all time
He does that to stuff that don't have many sins. If he didn't this video would be 10 mins max.
It's not unlimited energy, for 1. If you've played the game all the way through, you'd realize this.
2. The focus creates a neuro-link and also projects images only the one linked with the device can see.
3. The guy's focus didn't malfunction. He only said it did.
4. Rost has been watching Aloy the whole time.
5. The hologram of Elizabet was given to those with the other focuses from "hades".
6. The corruptor has always had the ability to " bend other machines to its will". It was part of the original design.
7. Silens is directly linked to HER focus. He knows how to dial into specific focuses.
8. (I missed a couple of your errors). Silens just said he copied the entire contents of her focus. He most likely also downloaded it to his own.
9. Genetic memory theory was clearly employed here. "Gaya" was counting on some of that inborn nature.
10. You must posed the "product of your environment" theory, you then say it should have been expected that humans would kill each other regardless of whether they have the ancient knowledge or not.
11. Gaya needs the spire too.
12. You don't fully understand the nuance of this story.
This is the most nitpick filled "everything wrong with" video I've seen yet. For a game with conveniences that make it a game, it's pretty good in my opinion. It's obviously not perfect. Nothing is. It's pretty darn good though.
Nonetheless... thanks for the video.
Kelly Pagano no it's not. it's literally every AAA developed game made in the past 2 generations
Kelly Pagano Angry fanboy alert
Linus Black dude hes not even angry...
"It's not unlimited energy" Considering the fact, that nuclear energy can live beyond your lifetime, it might as well be unlimited.
McGew 2121, i think Linus Black just likes saying fanboy alert, i've seen him say it a couple times over this video
"living like savages"?!!? Dude, that's so mean to the real-life tribes these were inspired by!
Chill he was just joking
@@recess7 yeah but he could've been respectful.
@@jess5299 but its true, they're living im huts and treating an AI as a goddess
@@elijahlee3610 can u like stop being so ignorant?
@@jess5299 how is that ignorant? They live in huts, prioritize religious customs and tradition over common sense and the safety of others. They take pride in isolationism and outcast people for the dumbest reasons like leaving the villiage lol. Face it the only difference between the Nora and carja cultists are one is passive and the other is violent both of them are extremist savages
My favourite line of the game was:
-Ayloy! I thought you fell at the bridge!
-No. the bridge fell on me.
Already 3 minutes in
No one is gonna say how BIG Young Aloy's head is at that age???
Forget that, Aloy grown up looks near identical to Freya from GOW4
Babies have a big head to body ratio compared to grown ups
3:35
well they weren't fighting THOSE machines. those machines you are talking about weren't even intended for combat purposes originally. Also the reason why humanity lost the war to machines is because they could infinitely recreate and use all life as fuel, something none of the machines in this game, even the 2 types that WERE originally designed as killer robots could do until the very end of the game because the ones fought up until that point were too damaged to use those capabilities.
even then though more than the corruptors and deathbringers, it was the GIANT metal robots you see dead on the mountains in this game and never actually fight that did most of the damage to humanity in the past.
Nope, actually these animal bots uses the same components as the old robots. The loot is a dead giveaway. And the arrows are made with this component. So it's a matter of physics, how can you pierce a tank made of metal with arrows made of metal? Impossible, simple as it is.
@@RRRRRRRRR33 True, but let's not forget the Ropecaster, tripcaster, sling that throws bombs, sling that throw elemental bombs, and the elemental arrows(fire is made from blaze, frost is made from chillwater, shock from sparkers, and corruption from metal burn), not to mention the bigger machines that don't have significant vital components exposed take less damage from arrows and usually requires a sonic pulse arrow to remove chunks of metal. Clearly you barely played the game.
@@sunjian9818 My point remains nitwit. These "vital components" shouldn't be exposed to begin with, considering that crude weapons can barely pierce the first level of defense. How humans survived against the equivalent of bears, lions, etc.. if they can't really hurt or compete with them? It's not like cavemen made weapons of bone that could pierce the hide of animals that are just as resistant, that's illogical, one denies the other. And with other technologies like magnetic field manipulations, metal bending, generation of heat and cold energies, etc... humans figured out all that and they still live like cavemen? It makes no sense, simple as it is. The game gives vague explanations to why and how humanity went that way, why the world look that way, etc.. but these are weak justifications. It doesn't ruin the game, but it denies this assumption that Horizon created a reasonable and clever setting. It's not really, the world presented in this game is yet another example of sci-fi shenanigans and that's completely fine
@@RRRRRRRRR33 Have you even beaten the game because towards the end it explains why they go back to caveman times?
Actually it's more akin to Native American than caveman, btw.
I love love love this game but I did say “well that’s convenient” a lot
Tbh, I think a lot of games have those moments.
After going on a "playing steek" on Horizon I did see some of those, but it was really just a small sacrifice to create a good story.
Also, it sure is convenient that your first name in your username is Elizebeth.
Word 2.
@@slush7112 This game has major major holes and clichés in its storytelling. The pettiness of this video doesn't change that.
How is that possible? Nothing in this game was convenient.
Aloy "reading" bow through the Focus could also be explained as her repeating after her foster dad doesn't really mean she read it it could also be that she saw the word and realized it could be the same as what her father just said that is maybe also why the word "Bow" above the bow turned green as soon ash she said it.
Have you ever actually played the game, or do you just watch UA-cam videos of the gameplay and attempt to piece the game together?
Exactly
Pretty sure this one supplements his income by streaming the games he is going to cover.
1:47 Dude, the name ritual is facking awesome! I wish we have a grand naming ritual like that. Yelling my child's name across the horizon!
Across the.. Horizon..
umm isnt it a pain to climb a mountain with an infant just to shout their name and go down??? you could die!
@@poujhn But yelling my child's name.. it's worth it 😈
9:30 Basically Lansra committed a Blasphemy by labeling Aloy an Outcast.
I know this is old now, however when you said Aloy would have had no knowledge of DNA and such, she had been learning information that was stored in the focus from the age of 6, and also remember the focus was able to identify objects and animals.
it 1000 years in the future not in the past
What? Horizon is a Scientology game?
What
Fauna Spectrum What?Who?When?Am I doing this right?
I was commenting on the fact he said that horizon was based 1000 years ago when it's set 1000 Yeats in the future
Filipe Trying to find datapoint but could not. Did see it said 300,000 days as I got to the top floor. Only a thousand year went by.
The Focus is like a super computer and super computers today can accurately calculate the movement of planets and stars while taking into account lots of variables, I figure a small super computer in the future will be able to decode a language just by looking at some of its glyphs and symbols.
And also interfacing with the brain it's connected to
It’s only as smart as its programming, and high school physics that describes planet movement is considerably easier to program than an algorithm for deciphering an unknown language. No such algorithm exists at this time, evidenced by the large number of writing systems we still don’t understand: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undeciphered_writing_systems . I doubt anything short of some sort of super-intelligence will ever be up to the task. I would say it’s implausible that a consumer electronics device would have such capability even 40 years from now...
@@LCfreeze ok we ll see in 40yrs
Aloy had the Focus for more than a decade, it wouldn't be so crazy to think that she "taught" the focus to decipher the glyphs she can actually read, since it is connected to her brain. Anyways, at the end of the day, it's science fiction, and the focus is just an excuse to have a videogame UI integrated into the world and the story
@@LCfreeze The problem with those writing systems, though, is that they generally represent languages that have either died out or evolved beyond recognition. Deciphering them isn't just about figuring out which symbols represent which phonemes--those phonemes must form words, and those words must carry meaning and fit into a larger syntactical unit. The humans of HZD have only existed for about 700 years, and they were taught English before being released into the wild. The glyphs in the game, therefore, represent English. The computer would only have to be smart enough to decode unknown writing systems representing known languages, taking into account that phonemes might be represented differently. Still a bit of a stretch, maybe, but not nearly as much as deciphering an unknown writing system representing an unknown language.
I finished life is strange a couple days ago. Watching this video now, it just occured to me that Aloy and Chloe was voiced by the same voice actress xD
She's also Tiny Tina in Borderlands, and Cassie Cage in MKX
16:27
When I first heard Sylens voice I immediately thought, “is that Zavala??” (Blue dude from Destiny)
Whether we wanted it or not
@@failsafe1212 we started a war with the eclipse on earth.
I thought he sounded like Jaal from Mass Effect Andromeda
Keith david. Also david anderson from mass effect and yes he was in halo. Dude's got a golden voice. He also played a parody of himself in saints row IV. Hes been in a lot of voice acting stuff and this guy said his name was fricking Lance Reddick like... how do you not even know the voice actor's name dude?!
Some if this is interesting, some of it is pretty (which is fine and even good, since that's what this genre if video is) but alot of it is complaints about things the game has an answer for. Did you finish the game?
I was hoping he would take notice of that adorable as hell moment when Alloy waves and says hi to the hologram. Like that put a big smile on my face and touched my heart. Shit was just beautiful .
Who Cares About The Sins? The GAME WAS SO LEGENDARY!
IT'S HAVING ANOTHER SEQUEL
These are probably some of the dumbest "gaming sins" I've ever heard
nice copy paste comment lol
@TheOneAndOnlyDoubleU if you actually tried looking for secrets (power cells, audio logs, messages, etc) you wouldn't say that. Obviously you're spitting flat out bullshit because you've either never played that game, or you just watched this and said all this was true, dumbass.
TheOneAndOnlyDoubleU i think you‘re talking about death stranding
"Everything wrong with Dartigan" would take 3 years to upload.
That would be a 10 hour long video
By the look of dartigan's playlist, he has little good to say about anything
2:55 Glad I’m not the only one with this reaction 😂
The focus reacted to the corruptor thing because it was one of the machines made by the Faro Production team and the focus was made by them as well. Possibility is that the focus and the corruptor had some factors that synced
That moment when someone points out the Nora can't read or write English so Aloy reading the BOW tag was BS, and it makes you suddenly realise: she wasn't reading it, she just realised that those three symbols put together mean "bow", hence the questioning tone. I never understood why she said it like that until JUST NOW.
They do read English. The tribe is called the Nora... all this is taking place around NORAD and Cheyenne mountain and US missle command. They got their name from the ruins.
And the letters turned green after she said BOW?
@@cluckeryduckery261 Just because they're named loosely after NORAD doesn't mean they can READ English!
i want to know what game this guy likes ? Mario kart?
Alex Marti Titanfall 1
So by your logic if you find something bad that means you hate the whole game.
Prolly just loves Mickey Mouse's Gaand (ie. A$$)
Criticising games doesn't mean you hate them. I complain all the time about the Ace Attorney series and still adore those games to hell and back.
He's playing it up for entertainment and while I can totally understand your annoyance, I think it's a little misplaced, as this isn't even supposed to be a game review, just a deadpan, sarcastic rant.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Naaw. His favorite game is Fishing Simulator. Strangely enough he only ever fishes for Attention.
You should do an everything wrong with (Everything Wrong With Horizon: Zero Dawn) video :D
Most underrated comment in this thread.
@@Chron0ClocK agreed
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That video would be so long
I wish that every video game from now on would come with a Dartigan's "Behind The Scenes" review, like how blu rays come with supplemental material for their movies
this is a really trash and petty sin counter lol
Im sorry to say this but some of ur facts aren't even true....like when u talked about how Aloy overrides machines....yes corruptor did already exist when the focuses were made! they were the main cause that Humanity extiguished in the first place! the "swarm" were the corruptors....focuses came after when gaia was created w the appollo subprogram! didi u even play the game?!
No, Focuses were created by Faro Automated Systems. The body Aloy got her focus from was from the metal world, not the cradle facilities. Listen to the Welcome to FAS audio data point again. It specifically says, "Faro leads the world in every sector of self-sustaining, fully-automated technology. From revolutionary consumer products close to home, like the Faro Focus, to the dynamic Chariot line of peacekeeping robots "
Dude,he does this to all games (halo being the most cring...iest of them all because of its amzing back story).
Well... the Focus tech was available to the public. that is in a data node. they were a Faro product. the focuses used in the game were part of the Apollo program as education tools. people had them before though.
yep "collecting scrap metal from robots you can't spend anyways cause you're an outcast" ... except that there's a trader who breaks the rules and will trade with you
damn this guy is annoying
@@StepDrek Then why does Rost do it?
He pushed her to save her from an explosion. This guy didn't play the games guys. The errors were explained it actually not errors. Some were.
*_look surrogate father, it’s the next assassins creed main character in training_*
This made me chuckle a bit 🙈
@@Kaput0103 One of the few legimate jokes
i cried when Rost died then i loved the game so much i played it again i cried for Rost...again.
29:45 That was such an amazing scene with a perfect soundtrack, it was worth at least to remove 10 sins.
I think they speak english. The people there are just the children of the children of the children of the people in the bunkers from the Zero Dawn project.
(Sorry for my bad english)
Do you ever take off the stuff they explain later? Because there’s a lot.
I’m playing the game right now for the first time. I love it.
Fair enough everything has it's flaws. Still men can decide to like it
Lol
you tried too hard this time, and failed on the first one.
failed on a bunch really.
it's honestly hard to believe that he played the game if he thinks that this game takes place thousand years ago. There are so many times that this is clearly in the future.
Tsaigos it was around 2060, and he didn't catch that
Alexa Angeles roughly 1000y in the future
2060 is when the robots took over
Its like Dartigan never even played the game and just skimmed the Wikipedia page. Most of his points are completely invalid or ignorant.
FBPrime yeah. But that’s every game this ass “sins” pretty much.
TheOneAndOnlyDoubleU A lot of people seem to disagree with you and him. Well over half of the shit he said was invalid and proved in the story. He found little things EXPLAINED in the game and still sinned them.
TheOneAndOnlyDoubleU nice copy and paste my dude 😂
@TheOneAndOnlyDoubleU I guess you really dislike the game (fair enough, obviously, I hated it before I was finished), to be that hyberbolic in your criticism of it. There's a lot that can and should be critcised about it, but the combat element of gameplay is a huge part of the game and was well executed.
One day there is going to be a video of everything wrong with realty...
Well you know why she didn't die from that fall as a kid?
THE GAME WOULD BE OVER IN THE FIRST MISSION😂
Plot Armor Lol
Sarcasm aside... Quite simply the best game out on any console.
HAAHAHAH- oh wait, you're serious? Okay let me laugh even harder, *_AAAHAHAHAHHHHAAAAA_*
that has to be a joke
peter price-patrick If you are talking about exclusive games maybe. In my opnion The witcher>Horizon zero dawn
The Witcher 3 is a lot better, so is titanfall 2, zelda, AC origins.
peter price-patrick this game was so boring i almost puked
One of my favorite lines from Aloy "I'm a great tracker". Umm, no, your focus is.
C Peterson Lol she said that to hide the fact she had a focus because she went into the “forbidden” metal structures as a child. Even if she was an outcast it was forbidden. But eventually she becomes so badass nobody gives a shit.
"Deathbringers don't live up to their name!" Mate, you play on fucking Story difficulty try it again on Ultra Hard took me 2 days to get past that mission
I need to play this again... havent played it since it 1st came out and i loved it. Never played the dlc. Ya, some of the game is a little ridiculous... but its still a great game. One i went ahead and tried to 100% at the time too.
21:47 so that explains why i keep losing wifi connection.
Hades's voice sounds like the collective voices of the Borg in Star Trek.
The fact so many people defend a game with arguably the most unlikable protagonist is very telling
Well the robots the old ones fought were much different than the ones made by HEPHASTEUS. In the final mission when you fight a complete one with just your bow is pretty difficult, and the old ones had to take on hundreds of them at the same time, so I think them getting overwhelmed despite their weaponry is justified, and that's without mentioning how they can reproduce with ludacris speed getting shat out of gigantic hentai robots the size of mountains, or their advanced machine learning allowing them to go into each fight with more knowledge of their enemy than the one before.
most of these sins are wrong and are dialogue options
"This is a great shot, but if I were carrying an infant, I would go around rather than walk through a field of robots that might kill me at any moment"
That moment was before derangemet obviously...
And you forgot about the level of diversity and wokeness in the game.
I argue the Derangement was not really all that well explained. As far as I can remember, it was explained once, maybe twice that the machines weren't always hostile towards humans in the main story, and then maybe once more at the end. Not to mention, during that scene, we see creatures like the Thunderjaw... fully decked out with all of its weapons and armor. I don't think it's wrong to fault the man on his logic with this scene and the general premise of the game.
Though, I'm not sure I follow by what you mean by the level of diversity and wokeness in the game. I found the world of the game and it's characters to be quite believable myself, even if there are some head-scratching moments here and there that could have been better explained or handled, along with a character or two.
while I don't agree with that it was before the derangement (the fact that Thunderjaws exist, while they are a recent addition and an obvious loophole that PROVES HE DID NOT PLAY THE GAME BC ACCORDING TO EREND, THE THUNDERJAWS WERE A FEW YEARS OLD), I can say that he could've been hidden, and besides, you honestly believe he saw it coming? there were bushes in the way, and as for sound, there was very little if THEY WEREN'T EVEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACe.
sorry. my blood pressure has been through the roof since I watched this video.
Why wouldn't they be diverse? We're repopulating the earth with a few dozen people from each Eulethia facility... it would need a large amount of genetic diversity
Derangement was not really well explained, sure... but the diversity has a valid explanation. Wokeness... almost. There's a lot of misogyny against males in this game, no doubt, to the point of fanaticism. Every single male character are either evil or assholes, this isn't a natural way to tell a story. The only exception is the fragile dude who plays the love interest stereotype, waiting for the hero to return home, etc.. The hero journey is very on the nose, Eloy is perfect without any flaws, her "mother" Elizabeth is so fucking perfect lol it gets insulting, the most intelligent human being on the universe, she not only saves the world but also dies a martyr lol If you want to send the message that males are evil and your hero is cool, do it with subtlety. There's such a lack of touch with modern videogame writers, it's crazy... Last of Us 2, Death Stranding, Tsushima, FF7 "remake", etc.. Their messages are so forced and on the nose. I was disappointed that Horizon is similar to these games. A decent sci-fi plot, nothing spectacular, but plagued with cliches, fanaticism and lack of subtlety
12:40 that was a pallet full to aloy’s shoulder height of iron ingots that didn’t have any wheels. There is no way in hell Aloy, who in spite of her physical fitness, weighs like 115 pounds soaking wet, could ever even hope to budge it.
She is a redhead Rey, but with charisma. We don't question her super powers, super charm, super intelligence, etc, etc
Looks like you didn't care to finish the game.
how? the gameplay was painfully average ;)
*Mid Air* how many comments have you replied to?
Johnny Jillky why do you even care? Go and search lol.
More of a rhetorical question bc I just kept seeing it
Johnny Jillky k
This game is so good that these "sins" are a serious stretch. And for all that is holy get some emotion in your voice. If you are gonna rip off cinema sins at least try to be at least a tiny bit as entertaining as they are.
aside from the graphics the game was fucking average at best :/
@@foulXD yeah so average it is a game of the year material
Mid Air average? nah games like cod are average. this game took a shitloaf more efford and it deserves tp be called at least good for the backstory, graphics and general gameworld alone.
Name a “average” game where you can fight robot dinosaurs, ride robot horses, get thousands of hours of gameplay out of, and get game of the year with :/
"Technology came from 2016." Best argument that yeah he didnt play it.
#5 the sawtooths and a lot of other machines weren't hostile until about 10yrs prior to the main storyline.
I don't think the creators knew much about Greek Mythology. Gaia is the good guy, and Hades is evil.... Hades was actually one of the nicest gods, and Gaia was the mother of the Titans, and kind of tried to destroy the gods several time. Gaia is the bad one. Hades just often appears evil because he's annoyed at the other gods for giving him the shit job.
Kharn The Betrayer Simple role reversal for the game. Not really a big deal. Animes like naruto used Buddhist mythology gods like Indra and Asura with their roles reversed.
Kharn The Betrayer I think it was more the fact that Gaia is the earth mother, not because the devs think she's "good"
Perhaps the "Unknown" signal that activated Hades is the Faro glitch.
You re all wrong about that shit man.Im greek
And Minerva is Roman not Greek...
14 seconds into the video and it's already over? damn, that was fast.
I L❤VE this game, and I can't wait for the sequel!!!😍😆
You're fucking kidding me right? You sin the game multiple times over the fact that they speak English, because you believe they don't? Did you pay attention to this story? APOLLO's roles consisted of culture and technology, not language, which means some of what they did back in the Zero Dawn project would carry over. Since most of the people involved clearly spoke English as a native language, that would be one thing that made it to this world, even a thousand years later. That could also explain why they can understand the audio logs, and the holograms explaining things that would have clearly been spoken in English. Why did you miss that? That's about the easiest thing to understand in this entire game.
Not to mention at least 6 people(most likely way more) grew up with Gaia teaching them everything. You see this in a hologram when you explore where Aloy was born.
JakRizen2 Look how fucked up english has gotten over the last decade.
JakRizen2 Actually Apollo carried all knowledge of the previous world (Culture, Math, Science, Language, ect), but all of that was deleted due to some stupid jackass thinking knowledge was worthless. Plus the people who were working on the Zero dawn project died off. These New humans were suppose to have been created by Gaia before she basically stopped working. Then those humans created more humans on their own. So actually hes not super wrong with going with the assumptions that they should have speak a totally different language that only traslates to English for the player/viewers sake. Plus even if it is explained why they do speak english, he probably just forgot it since the main flaw of this game is that it carries 1 big info dump after another, audio logs here and there. If you join one of his research streams on Twitch you probably could see how he works for this game.
JakRizen2 u seem salty😂...
Apollo contained advanced knowledge taught at school level. I think the program that dealt with infancy and early childhood probably had its own independent software. So the people would grow up and be taught a basic understanding of English. Though the people scattered around also use very specific English terms that would probably have been realistically replaced by new words.