Yeah. I loved PWs story! One of the reasons this game was the most disappointing for me was because it didn't do anything with all the great stuff they did in peace Walker or mgs3. Nothing interesting at least. We should have been building outer Haven!
The series of story of Big boss should of ended with peacewalker. It was an excellent game with an excellent story. The side ops were much more enjoyable than the mgs v ones.
@@juliuseke27 not to mention how often you're forced to repeat missions, giving you an open world environment you constantly have to evac from that loads you into a mission select screen, and the fact nothing exactly happens in the game. The real Phantom Pain was that it's an MGS game with all the MGS elements removed from it, you can feel MGS somewhat but, it's not there.. like a phantom limb. But no no, it's totally Konami's fault and not Kojima, because Kojima is fantastic.. uh-huh.
@@anonymoushunter9808 Yeah, but even in its projected form it's still incredibly light on storytelling for an MGS game. I don't think either 4 or 5 is bad, btw, but it's interesting to see how the two games have polar opposite problems
5:56 funfact. The real big boss is actually fluent in Russian, so Venom needing an interpreter is some early game foreshadowing. They mention naked snake speaking Russian in the prologue chapter in mgs3.
I also remember how the soldiers u recruit would act funny around you, like they were foreshadowing something wasnt quite right with what we thought we were in the game of Big Boss...
It really bothers me how "hallucinations" are portrayed. Hallucinations are never this elaborate and consistent. You typically hallucinate only for a few seconds at a time, and usually only one sense is affected. For instance, smelling roses where there are none, hearing carousel music coming from nowhere in particular.
those are 2 Snakes one u play without horn and one with horn u play both one is his double one is himself Quiet got in love with the double actually and not the real Snake she never figured it out lol
Also, it works as the Medic not just him thinking he's Big Boss. He was the Medic that tried to save Paz and had to get the bomb out, but he missed the second bomb, which led to the whole ending of GZ and her death.
One of the best parts of this game is the camera angles.Its like there’s a camera man and in the devils room has the camera man hide behind a Curtin when he sees Skullface it’s just amazing
@@demnbrown And even in game, throw a shield on your back and a helmet on your head, and only someone who can sneak up on you is remotely a threat. Can you fucking imagine if one of those riot suit bastards got on a walker gear?
1:54. Big Boss awakens well before Venom. There’s tapes of him talking to Ocelot after he wakes up. And Venom is intentionally kept under for his hypnogogia treatments. He’s only awakened because XOF is going to be showing up soon
Reggie Loaiza but the sin is that they “happen” to wake up at the same time. Venom was being kept under purposefully and could be awakened at any time. That invalidates the coincidence
Yeah, but the fact that so many important details to the plot and the characters are confined to side- tapes is worth at least 100 sins alone. It's disgraceful that it was done that way.
The Medic is canonically one of those soldiers from Peace Walker with like As and Ss in every stat. Outright stated to be “one of our very best.” So he was perfect for a phantom
@@xenon-biker925 The greatness of a person comes not only from his ability but also his achievements. A Steve Jobs without ambition may just become a regular programmer. Also, it's totally possible that some random soldier is more talented than Boss but just received not as much training.
26:15 "Wouldn't some of the Mother Base soldiers have noticed Snake going into an unfinished hospital room and talking to himself?" Hilariously, they do. They talk about a lot of stuff, like if Quiet is even human, and how awesome a puppy's paw pads are.
Been playing MGS since the PS1 console. Have even played MGS Portable Ops for the PSP. But I still have no clue wtf is going on lol I've learned to just sit back and enjoy the experience.
The paz scenes: Miller and Ocelot ARE actually in the medical wing talking to each other... About Venom Snake. He's the one with the dissociative condition. Snake wandered off into an incomplete section of the medical platform and started hallucinating. His cognitive dissonance didn't allow him to see things as they really were even when Miller and Ocelot came to check up on him. Thats what's happening there.
Yeah, but it's disgraceful that all of the important parts of the plot and character development were confined to tapes. Skull Face has a quite interesting back story, with genuine motives for going against Big Boss, but you'd have no idea from his actions and completely hollow scripting alone.
@@leerobbo92 agreed. Skullface was shoehorned in during ground zeroes and nobody knew who he was. He seems more villainous in gz but flopped in tpp and it felt like he should have been a 1v1 bossfight after beating sally. And skullface saying he was in snake eater was a cringe bit of retcon
That's the thing I hate about Dartigan. The answer to all his questions is usually right in front of him, but he just ignores it so he can add a couple more sins to the count. I get that he didn't really like the fact that most of the story was condensed into the tapes, but if you're gonna make a video deconstructing the game and analyzing it's story, then at least put in some goddamn effort.
2:18 Volgin wasn't being kept in the hospital, the cassette tapes say that he was on route to Moscow when Venom woke up, then he and the third boy made there way to Cyprus in the couple of weeks before the hospital was attacked
Volgin didn't summon the flaming Moby Dick. It was Mantis who was controlled by Venom at that (one) time. Mantis has no control over his actions. He is controlled by whoever has the biggest lust for revenge. First Volgin, then Venom, then Skullface and then Eli. His appereance changes everytime (arm in flames for volgin, little horn for venom, mask for skullface and a red ribbon for eli)
Sin Count 11: The real reason that Volgin is there is even worse, because apparently child mantis came into close proximity to Volgin, who was being transported by plane, thus giving life to his hatred of snake who was on the ground in Cypress.
Venom snake doesnt know he isnt snake, his mind believes it, psyco mantis can't see he isnt the real big Boss, the problem is that both bosses were in the same place
But mantis was in the hospital and sees both snakes, he would know which is which plus venom thinks he's snake so his memories would just be people telling him hey remember when we did this
Psycho Mantis can read minds and can see past memories.. So all he'd have to do was dig into their head. As to why he didn't, that's another story altogether.
@@AMaidenlessRunt Him being in this game is already pointless and completely contradicts his backstory given in MGS1, but the series has never not been a mess, so it fits.
Actually, I have no problem with them not keeping David Hayter around to play "Big Boss." That role being voiced by someone else makes absolutely perfect sense. What I have a problem with is them not keeping David Hayter around to play Ishmael. If David Hayter played BB in GZ, then Ishmael in MGSV, that would be perfect. It doesn't make sense for actual Big Boss and fake Big Boss to be voice by the same person.
Not thay it wasn't easy to guess straight away with other clues, but wouldn't that make the twist of the medic being venom and venom not being the real snake way way to obvious?
Yeah I agree with that. But honestly the real problem was having David Hayter voice Big Boss in the first place. None of the other Snakes, Liquid or Solidus, sound like him so it's not because he's a clone. He should have had his own voice from the beginning.
Sorry but shouldn't the first action sin at the hospital setting be "Why didn't they just blow up the entire hospital, since after all they didn't care for innocent life, wouldn't it have been better to reign in a drone then immediately order a kill squad to check for survivors as even the mercenaries didn't think about capturing Volgin (the man on fire)?"
I am not a fan of the hospital level, but,if a logical reason is needed, then I suppose they needed to confirm Big Boss death, for someone to actually see him die. Big Boss does have a way of slithering out of sure death situations.
Volgin doesn't actually wake up in the same hospital but instead in a plane mid-flight. The plane then crashed and he disappeared before reappearing in Cyprus as explained in one of the tapes
No mention of "Such a lust for revenge! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?!" becoming a meme the moment it was heard? Kind of a missed opportunity in my opinion.
Sin 55 is probably the reason they all are so willing to abandon their lives to be mercenaries at a sea base. They probably get paid in Merch, Pillows and Pocky sticks too. GMP probably stands for General Merchandise Product
Not to mention, a chance to get the ever living daylights beaten out of them by Big Boss. I swear, everyone out there is a masochist when Boss shows up
GMP stands for Gross Military Profit. And Miller and Ocelot probably tell them they ahve no other choice, which could explain why the soldier's morale isn't very high when you first recruit them, and grows when you bring materials, expand the quarters, and bring back whild animals
Look, they have two choices. First: They have to watch Ocelot perform tricks for ten hours and then he shoots them Second: They can taste Miller's Burgers and join Diamond Dogs
At 30:48 she was actually suffocating that's why her lips were blue when she got out of the room because all of the clothes on her, and when they tried to drown her she gained her energy back because of the water but the soliders didn't know that.
The Paz's sidequest is one of the best parts of the game,a very Silent Hill-esque type of sidestory, representing that still the medic had part of his personality (and guilt for her death) buried deep inside.
You did it! You crazy son of a gun actually did it and sinned the entire Metal Gear Saga! My respect man, i appreciate all the work you put into this. It really pays off ^^
@@tikalthewhimsicott2736 Well, he covered the main saga. I consider the other games as spin offs but i´d say Peace Walker needs to be sinned since the plot of MGSV builds on this game. But how are you going to sin an old NES game?
@@elnacho657 weren't Metal Gear Ac!d PSP games? Also, he really should cover PO and PW because he would have hard time finding sins in animated cutscenes
Still the technical scope remained. I think everyone was asking that why Peace walker wasnt developed for the PS3 or the Xbox 360 first and foremost, instead relegated to a handheld for kids for starters? (And then the HD version is merely a resolution and frame rate bump)
Raphael Belmont I think that’s a good thing. You CAN do that. It probably won’t go well and you’ll get a terrible rating and low points, but you can do it if you want. You can also do it with perfect stealth if you want. There are so many avenues you can take to complete a mission. Just because there’s a way you can do it with no stealth doesn’t mean there’s no stealth at all.
You can literally call Quiet and she will clear the game for you. It has good gameplay, but it's not something outstanding imo. Fulton random soldiers and they become automatically loyal, good mechanic but it makes no sense. Soldiers with braindead AI (as in every stealth game), you can extract a 10 ton tank right at their side and they don't hear or see a thing. The supposed freedom of choice, nope, that's a lie... this game is exactly like hitman: you can either go stealth/ghost, guns blazing or a mix of both. All those fallacies about the gameplay being so malleable that you can play differently in all the missions... bullshit, you are confined to 3 major gameplay concepts. Also, the sandbox is another lie, you go to a "cell", perform your /stealth/action there and then move on. You can raise the alarm and etc, but if you leave and then move to another cell, it will make no difference (the game basically restarts the AI). This is exactly how all the previous MGS games worked, the difference is that in MGSV you have to cover some ground while moving between these cells. And lastly, the boss fights were ridiculous, how can this be the peak of mgs gameplay if the bosses sucks? For me, MGS3 is were the gameplay peaks, the camouflage system makes sense (sometimes, its hard even for the player to spot Snake), braindead AI as always, but at least you are hidden in a acceptable way + you have either fixed camera angles or a third person view.
I'm feeling bored so I decided to nitpick the nitpicky video ... Sin 10: Venom was kept in an artificial coma until Big Boss woke up as explained in the truth tape Sin 12: Volgin and Mantis weren't kept in the same hospital, they were in a secret facility that studied their powers. When Big Boss and Venom woke up,they were in a plane flying not far from them and it woke up Volgin who used Mantis' powers to track them. Explained in the third child tapes. Sin 22 : There's no convincing to do here, young mantis latches on the most hateful person around, you can see to who he's connected because he mirrors some of their designs: The horn for Venom, the burning sleeves for Volgin , Skull Face's mask or Eli's beret on his shoulder. Sin 24: Venom ask Ocelot in one of the first tapes but Ocelot dodges the question . Sin 27 : Venom thinks he is Big Boss and looks just like him, reading minds wouldn't change his target . Sin 32 : Miller's elites soldiers where torn to pieces by the Skulls... If Venom didn't wake up, they would've tried and probably failed miserably but since " Big Boss " was awake, Ocelot put them on standby so that Venom could handle it. Sin 36: Interpreting a language live and translating it from Russian to English is not that easy, you need to learn how to translate context in a matter of seconds and just speaking the language isn't really the same. Sin 40 : Having Zero as the villain wouldn't make sense... He's still too attached to Big Boss to do what Skull Face did... Hell, even the ending of Peace Walker is already pretty extreme on that side. Plus, Skull Face represents Cipher running rampant and how much damage it can do, Zero wanted to unite the world using a "the end justify the means " but it backfired... and now nobody can stop what he put in motion,not even him. Sin 42 : Paz knows way too much for Big Boss to just go "sure,she's dead,let's go!" without seeing her body first. Sin 45 : COMBAT medic, it's in the name... That and all the soldiers on Mother Base where trained in CQC, add a little hypnotherapy for the "thinking outside the box" of Big Boss and it's not that hard to believe that Big Boss' best soldier could match him. Sin 46 : Shoot her with the tranquilizer gun ? You can wake up a guard with a small kick, you really think it'll help when the medic open her guts ? Sin 50 : Kaz's eyes are white when you rescue him, the game doesn't explain what happened there but it's pretty obvious that he can't see the differences. That and he admits in the truth tapes that the doctors kept putting him under until he was far away, that kind of shit fuck with your memory HARD. Add 9 years without seeing the boss and tadaaa... Sin 53 : You forget to mention that they have a """talk""" with Ocelot before being recruited, so either they are convinced by Big Boss' legend to join the nice way or .... Sin 63: It's pretty obvious in Peace Walker that all the soldier on Mother Base are big fans on Paz. Now imagine being the medic that opened her guts (causing immense suffering) and still failed to save her ... Yep, that's gonna cause trauma alright and the horns doesn't really help on the "imagination" thing. Sin 77 : Otacon was too young to remember seing his father work on Metal Gear and soon after that Strangelove hides him far from Huey . Once the Diamond Dogs exile him and Huey returns to civilian life, I higly doubt he'd start explaining to his son how he built a giant death machine for a shadowy organisation and killed his mother... Sin 92 : The end lungs still worked where Quiet's lung are burned,so on one side we have the parasites helping working organs and on the other we have parasites doing all of the lungs' work, explains why she needs to have more skin exposed (although it's still fanservice,that's the ingame explanation) Sin 99 : The Battle Gear is still used in deployments though... Just like Zeke was in Peace Walker and here at least you don't have to grind to build it , so there's no point in cutting the whole thing ... Sin 104 : That scene only happens if you have recruited the interpreter, if not Venom speaks English so it's pretty obvious that the interpreter is translating live and Venom is just repeating the words instead of knowing how to speak the language. Sin 106: After the mission where you capture Liquid, Ocelot explains in a tape that he interrogated the kids and one of them told him Liquid's real name : Eli. Sin 116 : Parasites need a few sentences to activate, they won't activate with just a few words so it's better to stay safe. Sin 123 : He isn't talking about Sahelantropus but about the Walker Gear, remember in an earlier mission the crew was wondering why Cipher was giving away Walkers ? That's why . They give (or sell cheap) the launcher to every military group out there and then sell them nukes the size of the Davy Crockett (from MGS 3) to put on them . Sin 124 : Nobody knows that Skull Face keeps control over the nukes until the launch, that's the big difference with the SOP. Add the fact that most groups would buy them for detterence more than anything and by the time someone tries to actually launch one, Skull Face would already have a stranglehold on the "private sector nukes". Sin 127: Snake didn't see Sahelantropus at OKB Zero first, he saw it in the power plant ... Sin 132: Beyond the assault on the hospital, Skull Face has always been more sneaky about his attempts to kill Venom and now that Venom knows his location, he could unleash all of Diamond Dogs on him which would start a big,noisy war ... That's the kind of attention Skull Face doesn't need when his plan is almost complete. If "Big Boss" starts a war in the middle east, you can be sure the Soviet and the US will investigate which is bad news overall. Sin 139 : 20 years later they don't have Huey to create a mech like that or Strangelove to program its AI... That and you forget the fact that Sahelantropus barely works, it needs a psychic to make it work whereas Rex works just fine on its own... It can't even launch a nuke ! The closest it had was a self-destruct that turned it into a walking nuke.Plus seeing how the Patriots erased Skull Face from history, I'm pretty sure they destroyed any proof of Sahelantropus existence. Sin 147 : Some of the soldiers do notice Snake staring in the distance (you can here some of them talk about it on the medical platform). They just don't dare to ask him why because well... Big Boss. Sin 149 : Quiet does have character depth ... You can see in how she goes from wanting to kill Snake, to working with him , to form a team and finally sacrifice herself for him, you see that trough the buddy bond and how her animations change when it grows. Not only that but the more it evolves the better Venom and her gets as a team to the point that at max level, they're unstoppable. But yeah, since she doesn't have the traditional 20 minutes Metal Gear speech, let's just say she doesn't have character depth -_- Sin 150 : See Sin 99 Sin 158 : Quiet refused treatment, Code Talker explained it in one of the tapes. It seems she hasn't completly let go of her revenge and keeps the parasite in case she decides to go through with it in the end. Sin 160 : Parasites can't react to Navajo, Code talker made sure of that ( explained in one of his tapes). Seeing as navajo is immune to the parasites,it'd make sense to teach it to your walking bioweapon in case you need to speak with her. Sin 163 : It adds to the trauma of Venom, showing that even though he doesn't say it, the events of that night still f*cked him up and leave him with his own guilt and PTSD over the whole ordeal . Sin 167 : The mutation only needed to happen in one soldier, once he starts speaking to someone that person if screwed and seeing how violent the infected get, a lot of soldiers would have been infected through blood. Sin 171-173: Quiet IS suffocating because of the clothes , which is why she looks super pale and can't just remove the handcuffs to kill the guards. As for the water, submerging her drowns her, she's okay with a little water only (explained by Ocelot in the "Visit Quiet" side op) but once the guard removes her pant to ... """play""" with her, she can again breathe through the skin of her legs and goes on a rampage. Sin 185 : There IS a reason : When you begin the game, you see the things from the point of view of a freshly brainwashed, barely awake Venom but when you replay it, it's years later and his memories are back, which means he can look back on it with more clarity. Sin 186: Really dude ... ? They didn't want to hide Venom from Big Boss' foes but use him as a decoy. They tell him that knowing that he's so confused and in-and-out of consciouness that when he wakes up looking like Big Boss, he won't even question it. Sin 188: Did you forget the decade between MSG 3 (1964) and Peace Walker (1974) ? Did you forget that during that time they worked closly together to build Cipher with Zero and the others before Big Boss left in 1972 ? That once BB left Ocelot stayed as a spy for Eva and Big Boss ? All in all, it seems that you played the game on the mute and saw the tape once, thought "how yeah, let's not listen to plot critical thing while playing, I'd much prefer for the game to stop me in my tracks to listen for 20 minutes of infodump like the Codec used to ! " and then wrote the script by regrouping the complaints of people who played 2 hours, said "fuck it" and went on to cry on reddit about how this game is the worst MGS evar . It's a shame really because otherwise the editing is good and some of the joke hit home but just like CinemaSins you're too busy to try nitpicking every second of the game without even thinking 2 seconds about what you're writing ... But hey, at least I had fun spending an hour to write this so, not a total loss.
24:29 Finally! Someone points out how the Metal Gear in this game (a prequel) is more advanced than later Metal Gears. Thank you so much for doing that!
I was wondering that when I first saw it. Only justification is that the superior research results were lost and no record to recreate it. After all, concrete was discovered during the Roman Empire yet after the fall didn't become widely used again until about a hundred years ago. Digital photography was apparently possible either in the 70s or 80s yet because of corporate rejection didn't see mainstream use until the 2000s. Who knows what other technology was invented yet lost in time?
@@CyranofromBergerac I don't think that it makes too much sense, since both XOF and DD were still in power for a long time and DD themselves had the remains of the sahelantropus. One should also consider that they had developed a levitating tank which also had a railgun, and they maintained it thanks to huey's research after they kicked him out, the only logical answer here is "retcon".
@@reggieloaiza2285 Sahelantropus was taken by ELI and Huey was banished. Episode 51 had them recovering the remains again had it been in the game. I will give you battle gear, but I still believe without Huey metal gear data would most likely be lost. Of course retcon is always an option.
While a weak explenation, it may be because it could not function in normal conditions. It needed to be piloted by a child and could not walk upright without mantis. It was so heavy that motherbase was on the verge of sinking with it on it
*THE SIIIIIINSSS NEVER DIE* -Donna Burke (Sins of the Father) PD: If Konami didn't ripped this game in half, and the missing part was going to be like GZ, it would be a lot more amazing than it already is
I always thought that Quiet used Venom's sniper rifle when attacked by the jet. And i think the bipedal platforms Codetalker was referring to were the small walker gears.
I was addicted to this game when i got around to playing it lol. The side missions are extremely repetitive, but that still didn't stop me from enjoying the shit out of the game. Also, Quiet is thiccc.
The only thing i can complain about is that you have to keep LT pressed to wield your guns. They could have used LB to sheathe/unsheathe weapons and LT to aim.
30:45: I thought here that the clothes they put on her were making it hard for her to breathe and thus weaker (which would explain why she was so blue.) Then when the Soviet guy takes her pants off she takes in air through her legs and is back to fighting strength. Not trying to discredit the video.
Yes. Firstly, they put Quiet into a water container, which gave her a boost of energy as she became hydrated. Secondly, Quiet’s pants being taken off and her shirt being opened allowed her to breathe properly.
I'm pretty shure David Hayter came to voicing MGS as a joke, cause he's sooo lame in voice acting. For some reason, his over cartoonized Solid Snake/BB was ok for the fans.
I decided a long time ago that if I want to enjoy Metal Gear games, I just need to blindly accept everything Kojima throws at me without giving it much thought. It's been a pretty effective strategy.
Big Boss and his body double do not wake from their coma at the same time. Big Boss woke up first as the "Truth Records" clearly tell that Snake is talking to ocelot.
Pat and Woolie bring up a brillaint point about that. Think about it from the outside PoV Skullface: Alright, I need you to go in there, and shoot this guy. He's fresh out of a coma, so, he can barely move. Easy job. Ten minutes later, Quiet falls out of the window, on fire. From fighting a coma patient. Skullface: Yep! That's Big Boss!
Snake has never been a chatting person. He has only repeated thing other people has said to him. Other person: we have to get to the disposalfacility Snake: disposalfacility?
BS. He was very talkative during MGS3, specially when talking to Zero or EVA. And he gave a huge speech at the end of MGS4. Of course he is a chatting person, or at least much more than how he is shown in this game.
1. if you bothered to listen to the tapes you would not only remove the sins from not listening to them, but you would have removed sins for the burger tapes 2. there are also other mother base members who are named, most notably Hideo Kojima 3. to hide the fact that Venom Snake wasn't big boss, they probably had him wear a full uniform instead of what he wears in this game, and he probably had the shrapnel shaved down so that it was barely noticeable 4. why didn't you sin Konami 5. Bioshock Infinite
Timothy Manuel Leave it man . Just another UA-camr trashing an unfinished masterpiece . If you look at it ,there are no games like mgs v , just that makes it special and unique
Timothy Manuel Why would people want to listen to tapes rather than playing the game? Plus, mgs was good for it’s cutscenes (at times) and didn’t need to be completely scrapped.
@@dylana.9057 Masterpiece? This inconsistent mess is just another open world waste of time? Not to mention the game deserves every negative statement ever made about it when people got tricked into buying a demo at full game price. MGSV's legacy is a stain on the games industry.
9:48 The soldiers you Fulton in don’t join immediately. They spend various amounts of time in the brig being “convinced” to join. A bit of a stretch, but it makes some sense.
Only some of them do though, almost half of all soldiers you recruit join immediately upon reaching MB, and those that don't only remain for a short amount of time (except special ones, such as the weapons dealer), I guess MB has more healthcare benefits than say, the soviet army.
its hilarious how sigint aka the darpa chief makes fun of the idea of walking battle tanks with legs commenting how threads woul fare much better and then funds metal gear rex in 2005
MGS3 was where my interest in the story started to fade. MGS5 is where the interest of dialogue memes awoke. I’d buy MGS4 and 5 again for the dialogue... I think that’s what they wanted. “They played me like a damn fiddle!”
I enjoyed this video. I think people tend to forget that in MG2, it was explained that Big Boss survived the Outer Heaven explosion and was fitted with cybernetics to help him survive. Thus making the need for Venom as the “link” between the old and new pointless.
You're absolutely right, maybe you just forgot that when you fulton something, it makes a airplane sound right after. So what is the correct one; The chopper arm or the plane sound?
@@VanerDegon TBH I just think it's bad Sound Design. In the older games, I think it was Peace Walker it was stated that they have a modified Version of a Helicopter (UH-1D/H Iroquois) with a "Fulton Recovery Hook"
@@VanerDegon I can give you the Link to the MGS Wiki, but I don't know if Links will get my Comment deleted so i Just copy the Part With the "Recovery Hook" "The Fulton recovery system was employed extensively by Big Boss's Militaires Sans Frontières in the 1970s. During the Peace Walker Incident, it was used to capture downed enemy soldiers, rescue prisoners of war, and to extract personnel from combat zones, using UH-1D/H Iroquois helicopters modified to carry a Fulton recovery hook." The Same Hook is attached to the Helicopters in the Phantom Pain
26:18 , Actually mother base soldier will speak about this, saying Venom is in the unfinished part of the Medical Platform and they're afraid if venom caught them slacking off. Pretty fun details eh
21:43 Well we do live in a world where our own devices we bought from a company are still Monitor and control by said company, and can even turn off our devices if we don’t go to a specific store our specific parts for our devices… y’all know what company I’m talking that does that.
3:40 - Actually they explain why Volgin and Mantis work for Skullface. Mantis' psychic abilities latch onto people/spirits with very strong feelings/willpower effectively making Mantis a slave to whoever his powers latch onto. Initially, Mantis latched onto Volgin because of his hatred of Big Boss defeating him, then Mantis latched onto Skullface after getting near enough to Skullface prior to Volgin's boss fight in Africa because of Skullface's strong desire for revenge. Because Volgin's body is controlled by Mantis and Mantis' powers are controlled by Skullface. It's less about them wanting to work for Skullface and more about how Mantis' powers have a parasitic relationship with people of strong emotion. It's also why Mantis ditches Skullface for Eli as Eli is Liquid and he apparently hates Big Boss more than Volgin or Skullface so that's who Mantis' powers latch onto next and why Skullface says "Such a lust for revenge! WHO?!" as he knows how Mantis' powers work (somehow).
And the fact due to its stated kids experience stronger emotions than adults due to developing brain stuff(like more wild signals or something), it causes Eli's emotions to be stronger too.
Funny think is, Big Boss IS chatty when he is on screen. He is making quips the whole hospital scene. They didn’t wake up at the same time. Venom was given hypnotherapy before he woke up. And in the truth tapes, we hear how chatty he was when he woke up, which I believe was a few weeks before Venom.
Dartigan, if you spent time properly listening to the tapes you were sinning, you'd know that Volgin was in fact held in a USSR research facility, which took to flame once Psycho Mantis decided to crash the plane he was on and "feed off of the anger" of Volgin. Also, according to those tapes again, Snake did in fact ask about Ishmael, but Ocelot blew off the question. Also, Psycho Mantis' gas mask prevents him from hearing the thoughts of others. It's precisely why he wears it, and because of it he wouldn't know that Venom Snake isn't the real Big Boss. Also also, the Hospital Snake was staying at were exercising his muscles every day, which would at least make it a bit easier on him. As for how the combat medic could become capable of being Big Boss is that (although this is also kinda plot BS) the combat medic had memories of everything Big Boss has done hypnotised into him, giving him the same experience, knowledge, and training of Big Boss. The reason Miller never questions Snakes injuries is because he was in on it with Ocelot from the very beginning too. He knew of the double, even before Snake woke up from his coma. The parasites Quiet uses are BASED off of the parasites The End uses, but are not the same ones. Through a bunch of technicalities (complicated explanations) on tape in the game, it explains how the two are different, but I won't bother. Bottom line is The End didn't need to breathe through his skin nor could he. When Snake speaks to Eli, we could probably presume the Interpreters are providing the phrases, because if you hadn't acquired the Interpreter before this mission, Snake speaks English instead. People call Eli Eli because he said it was his name off camera or they found he was a child of Les Enfantes Terribles or something, idk go check the Tapes you sucker. You also forgot to mention that the The End fight was a repeat of the Sniper Wolf fight.Whilst not a perfect answer to your sin, the Parasite adapts it's understanding of the language it's genetically hardwired to activate to during it's hatching process to adapt to regional dialects. For the remotely deactivated nukes, obviously he won't tell them, it's even stated so in a tape. Naturally, that still leaves the obvious issue of there being no deterrent for the person to actually try (cause they wouldn't know of the consequences), and once people know, it's no longer effective as you mention, but the idea behind it is to act as a failsafe in case anyone wants to actually use the nukes, because Skull Face doesn't want any of them to actually use them, rather he wants everyone to just have them, meaning everyone has the capacity to be a threat to everyone else, so they'd have to recognise them (although no one could actually use the nukes presuming they were mad enough to decide). You presume that the men that were recruited into Diamond Dogs from the field didn't get any background checks. Why do you presume that they'd be so unreasonable? (Thinks for a moment about the game series we're talking about here) Alright fair enough, but still. I heavily doubt it. Despite what the few cut scenes imply, according to tape, Huey is not even allowed anywhere near Sahelanthropus, and it's not being repaired anyways, it's basically there as a massive memento to prove that Diamond Dogs existed and saved the world or some shit, despite that being counter-productive towards them trying so hard not to let any news about Sahelanthropus' existence come about. The cure against the parasite only works when you know the specific strain, which is why Code Talker needed to come with you guys to Mother Base among other reasons. The kids escaped Mother Base by hiding in outward-going transports for cargo or sorty. Motherbase isn't an isolated place with nothing going in and out. Use your brain man.
Sin 61: Literally calls back to MGS3 when Snake was teaching Ocelot a few things about guns :| and at the end he even quotes what Snake said to him and says his "Pretty Good." line
Number 9: venom snake and big boss don’t wake up from comas at the same time, in an audio tape you get after The man who sold the world ( its either Zero visits big boss in the hospital, or a conversation in the hospital with ocelot can’t remember) big boss has been awake for a while but is still recovering, the person talking to him a asks “is he awake yet?” And big boss says “no he hasn’t woken up” implying big boss has been out of his coma for a while and is just recovering or waiting for venom snake to awake, which would be why when big boss gets out of his bed to help venom he can move his body fully and has all his senses unlike venom for which escaping the hospital is the first time he’s left his bed in 9 years.
It's more about the "Big Boss"'s body double and how he came to be up to the time of Metal Gear, where he dies and the world thought that BB died while the actual BB survives
@@emperorcokelord1021 I know but it really doesn't tell anything of interest in the overall scheme of the saga appart from "that guy killed in that game from 1987? Yeah, it wasn't Big Boss but this other guy". "Big Boss" has like 30 lines of dialogue through the whole game, Ocelot doesn't even act like Ocelot, Liquid comes and goes, Quiet has no more relevance than being a forced love interest?, Skull Face is shit and is terribly shoehorned into MGS3...
To answer your question, the Paz hallucination quest serves only one purpose. Kojima promised he would show us the aftermath of ground zero about Paz and chico and how it has affected BB and that's all he could do It's venom snake torturing himself because he failed to find the second bomb. HIS hands as the medic, HIS actions. It's his personal guilt manifesting through hallucinations. He's lying to himself, going as far as to imagine another scenario where she survived just to ease the pain But at the end he finally accept it. Venom snake, the medic accept it Big boss has nothing to do with this Even in the record tape Paz says something along the lines of "you could kill skull face, slaughter Emmerich, burn the whole world down and it still won't bring me back"
1 miscounted sin is that Quiet can't be submerged in water or she'll suffocate which is why she has to lend a hand and make sure the helicopter doesn't crash into the open ocean. All the virus stuff was really just an excuse for why shes only wearing underwear and tights the entire game, and her objective isn't just to kill Big Boss but to release the English virus across the base. You are right though that her full motivations and change of heart are never fully explained, other than "Big Boss was just so handsome and strong."
The cassette tapes were added because after 4 people were complaining about long cutscenes and codec. So Kojima removed them and replaced them with tapes that you can listen at your own leisure. Even after the listening to the tapes, story is decent at best but makes some sense after you give atleast the important ones (yellow marked ones) a listen.
The opening face customization is for the medics ORIGINAL face, not his Boss appearance. So yeah actually it makes sense. That's part of the twist also the guy who helps you out of the hospital is the real Boss
@@LoganProductions54 Big Boss also says at the end of MGS4 that he never considered Solid Snake his child. They're related to him but they're not family. Even EVA knows that because Les Enfant Terribles was carried out behind Big Boss' back and he was furious about it.
PAZ was packed with such a large explosive for the point of it being found. Chico was allowed to keep his recording device for the point of Snake finding PAZ. Skullface knew Snake was there the entire time. Huey was working with XOF.
0:30 You do realize he's probably talking to Big Boss and NOT Venom, right? They're in the same room, so its quite possible he's "talking" to Venom to continue to throw off Boss' pursuers and likely meant to change Boss' face into the Medic's (Venom's real identity) before Quiet axed him...
13:55 Actually there is a reason. If you listen to the tapes then you find out Otacon was taken away from Huey and Strangelove. Meaning he wouldn't know of his father's business.
@@klarnorbert I sincerely doubt it. This game is deeply flawed from the clumsy story, to the bad villain, to the established characters being shells of themselves, to the boring and repetitive missions. I'm halfway convinced Kojima was trying to sabotage the project just so he could finally stop making these games.
@@MaxLoafin that comment hasn't aged well. Konami hasn't done a single fucking thing since MG survive. They completely went under and stopped producing games.
Wait a minute, wasn't the reason as to why snake needed interpreters instead of learning the languages himself, because the "horn" on his head had damaged the "language" part of his brain relegating hin to only speak english?
There are some sins here that are just flat out wrong, but I think it's good they were stated. Because despite the fact that I am a big fan of these games and I've even done EVERYTHING in MGS5, I didn't know plenty of stuff that should've been simple until I read individual characters' wikis due to the poor way information was told to the player.
I'm almost annoyed by the fact that he didn't remove a sin for D-dog.
He is such a good boy.
*D-Dog
@@InfernotheFox Fixed.
Weird mistake.
@@francesco8000 Eh, it's easily done...
Bruh a couple weeks ago I logged in for the first time in months and D-Dog came running up when I returned to base. The goodest boy.
D- Best buddy
Everything wrong with metal gear survive next
1: it exists
100: It exists
26183628163628917: it exists.
2: it destroyed our good expectations of a new metal gear and now we will never see metal gear rising 2 or any metal gear game.
Metal Gear Survive is a better game than Death Stranding will be.
JC Denton we were never getting another Rising anyways, that game was trash.
Peace Walker's story with The Phantom Pain's gameplay would have been epic.
@Nuno The Dude nah PW was great.
Imagine if they remastered the monster hunter missions.
Dude that's my dream. But I would also like crawling and swimming mechanics back too. And Fox Engine.
Yeah. I loved PWs story! One of the reasons this game was the most disappointing for me was because it didn't do anything with all the great stuff they did in peace Walker or mgs3. Nothing interesting at least. We should have been building outer Haven!
The series of story of Big boss should of ended with peacewalker. It was an excellent game with an excellent story. The side ops were much more enjoyable than the mgs v ones.
MGS4: Too much plot, not enough game
MGSV: Too much game, not enough plot
MGS 1-3: Perfection
@@juliuseke27 not to mention how often you're forced to repeat missions, giving you an open world environment you constantly have to evac from that loads you into a mission select screen, and the fact nothing exactly happens in the game.
The real Phantom Pain was that it's an MGS game with all the MGS elements removed from it, you can feel MGS somewhat but, it's not there.. like a phantom limb. But no no, it's totally Konami's fault and not Kojima, because Kojima is fantastic.. uh-huh.
MGSV: Perfect gameplay, if you want plot go play something else or watch a movie.
This is how games should be.
Stop bitching out the game. It is not at all even finished.
@@anonymoushunter9808 Yeah, but even in its projected form it's still incredibly light on storytelling for an MGS game.
I don't think either 4 or 5 is bad, btw, but it's interesting to see how the two games have polar opposite problems
5:56 funfact. The real big boss is actually fluent in Russian, so Venom needing an interpreter is some early game foreshadowing. They mention naked snake speaking Russian in the prologue chapter in mgs3.
I also remember how the soldiers u recruit would act funny around you, like they were foreshadowing something wasnt quite right with what we thought we were in the game of Big Boss...
But ocelot is basically russian or at least can speak russian
I believe they explain that the brain horn messed with the language portion of Venom’s brain
@@ryanallen6325 yes they did, ocelot mentioned it
Also the robotic arm is a big takeaway since BB never had a robotic arm
Sin 63: It's stated in game that his "horn" effects his brain. Giving him hallucinations and at times, making him unable to see the colour red.
It really bothers me how "hallucinations" are portrayed. Hallucinations are never this elaborate and consistent. You typically hallucinate only for a few seconds at a time, and usually only one sense is affected. For instance, smelling roses where there are none, hearing carousel music coming from nowhere in particular.
Sadly this mostly wasn't utilized - it played a part only in the cut ending on the island Eli escaped to.
those are 2 Snakes one u play without horn and one with horn u play both one is his double one is himself Quiet got in love with the double actually and not the real Snake she never figured it out lol
Also, it works as the Medic not just him thinking he's Big Boss. He was the Medic that tried to save Paz and had to get the bomb out, but he missed the second bomb, which led to the whole ending of GZ and her death.
There was supposed to be a mission 51 in wich snake sees the color red as white and ends up killing eli. Search it up on yt.
One of the best parts of this game is the camera angles.Its like there’s a camera man and in the devils room has the camera man hide behind a Curtin when he sees Skullface it’s just amazing
I agree! Another well done, although tragic part, is that parasite outbreak where you kill your men.
I am a PERSON you feel a connection to them because they add to your PMC over the games time
@@FreyR_Kunn pretty much! And the peace walker reference at the end was bittersweet
Honestly a walker gear has about as much vulnerability as a top Gunner on an M1 Abram
@@demnbrown And even in game, throw a shield on your back and a helmet on your head, and only someone who can sneak up on you is remotely a threat.
Can you fucking imagine if one of those riot suit bastards got on a walker gear?
1:54. Big Boss awakens well before Venom. There’s tapes of him talking to Ocelot after he wakes up. And Venom is intentionally kept under for his hypnogogia treatments. He’s only awakened because XOF is going to be showing up soon
There's only a few weeks of difderence though, so I guess the sin still stands.
Reggie Loaiza but the sin is that they “happen” to wake up at the same time. Venom was being kept under purposefully and could be awakened at any time. That invalidates the coincidence
Yeah, but the fact that so many important details to the plot and the characters are confined to side- tapes is worth at least 100 sins alone. It's disgraceful that it was done that way.
@👁 insightful.
@@leerobbo92 Very true
The Medic is canonically one of those soldiers from Peace Walker with like As and Ss in every stat. Outright stated to be “one of our very best.” So he was perfect for a phantom
sixstringpsycho exactly, I imagined him
being like a pararescue in the air force
Medic is A++ in every stat, hes still below S Rank
Rik Singh that’s still above BB’s rank in PW
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged and yet BB is considered the best soldier in the world, when you have S-ranking soldiers above him. Lol
@@xenon-biker925 The greatness of a person comes not only from his ability but also his achievements. A Steve Jobs without ambition may just become a regular programmer.
Also, it's totally possible that some random soldier is more talented than Boss but just received not as much training.
The paz mission is actually pre devastating when you understand that its literally the Medic's guilt acting up on him
That explains so much
Ooof, thats fucked 😂
"This game let's me beat childern" 'removes a sin' I lost it
Gheist
Should’ve been -10
26:15 "Wouldn't some of the Mother Base soldiers have noticed Snake going into an unfinished hospital room and talking to himself?"
Hilariously, they do. They talk about a lot of stuff, like if Quiet is even human, and how awesome a puppy's paw pads are.
The Metal Gear series is such a retcon mess, but it’s still one of the best series ever. It’s a beautiful retcon mess
Art
Been playing MGS since the PS1 console. Have even played MGS Portable Ops for the PSP. But I still have no clue wtf is going on lol I've learned to just sit back and enjoy the experience.
Exactly
The most greatest of all retcon mess,like Jojo
What does retcon mean?
15:58 Incorrect, we all released tears...The fluid just dispersed from a different part of the body.
One sperm = one tear cried
Oh gawd that’s terrible DX. But funny as hell.
Lotsa Male Tears
The paz scenes:
Miller and Ocelot ARE actually in the medical wing talking to each other...
About Venom Snake.
He's the one with the dissociative condition. Snake wandered off into an incomplete section of the medical platform and started hallucinating. His cognitive dissonance didn't allow him to see things as they really were even when Miller and Ocelot came to check up on him.
Thats what's happening there.
ironically enough Happy Birthday came into public domain a year after the game's release.
Gameplay wise - the game is cool.
Story wise - Piece of sh*t of incomplete mess.
MGS2 will always be my personal favourite in the series.
Nuh, the gameplay is godlike if you ask me , one of the best stealth games ever
@@panosas4645 I wouldn't go that far, but definitely an epic game.
I would agree if there were civilians in the whole entirety of the game. It's something that Ghost Recon Wildlands improved upon.
Um it's the best stealth game currently. Arguably the best.
Actually venom DOES ask about ishmail. its on the tapes
"well it wasnt pinochio who led me out to safety, so who was that guy?"
Yeah, but it's disgraceful that all of the important parts of the plot and character development were confined to tapes. Skull Face has a quite interesting back story, with genuine motives for going against Big Boss, but you'd have no idea from his actions and completely hollow scripting alone.
@@leerobbo92 agreed. Skullface was shoehorned in during ground zeroes and nobody knew who he was. He seems more villainous in gz but flopped in tpp and it felt like he should have been a 1v1 bossfight after beating sally. And skullface saying he was in snake eater was a cringe bit of retcon
Your exactly right
That's the thing I hate about Dartigan. The answer to all his questions is usually right in front of him, but he just ignores it so he can add a couple more sins to the count. I get that he didn't really like the fact that most of the story was condensed into the tapes, but if you're gonna make a video deconstructing the game and analyzing it's story, then at least put in some goddamn effort.
@@lt-yx1hx It's obvious that a lot of effort went into making this video. It's not like he just makes MGS videos either.
2:18 Volgin wasn't being kept in the hospital, the cassette tapes say that he was on route to Moscow when Venom woke up, then he and the third boy made there way to Cyprus in the couple of weeks before the hospital was attacked
Volgin didn't summon the flaming Moby Dick. It was Mantis who was controlled by Venom at that (one) time. Mantis has no control over his actions. He is controlled by whoever has the biggest lust for revenge. First Volgin, then Venom, then Skullface and then Eli. His appereance changes everytime (arm in flames for volgin, little horn for venom, mask for skullface and a red ribbon for eli)
30:13
This actually caught me off guard. Was expecting something about how he could risk getting the parasite but instead we got this
12:03. He hallucinates it due to his immense guilt for his role in Paz’s death
David Brockmeier Absolutely hence why the game is called " Phantom pain "
Well I'm still sad to this day
Word, don't think I'll recover from this
You mean that the medic (our character) has guilt over Paz's death rather than the real Boss
Jack Rocks yeah...the point is venom snake believes he IS big boss, so...
“How can a guy on fire in a dark room sneak up on you?”
😂😂😂😂 I’m dead
RE4 did it pretty weLL
Sin Count 11: The real reason that Volgin is there is even worse, because apparently child mantis came into close proximity to Volgin, who was being transported by plane, thus giving life to his hatred of snake who was on the ground in Cypress.
Venom snake doesnt know he isnt snake, his mind believes it, psyco mantis can't see he isnt the real big Boss, the problem is that both bosses were in the same place
But mantis was in the hospital and sees both snakes, he would know which is which plus venom thinks he's snake so his memories would just be people telling him hey remember when we did this
@@blueripper1558 Real big Boss has his face hidden under bandages, so He doesnt even See they Look the same
@@lolschrauber I'm aware
Psycho Mantis can read minds and can see past memories.. So all he'd have to do was dig into their head. As to why he didn't, that's another story altogether.
@@AMaidenlessRunt Him being in this game is already pointless and completely contradicts his backstory given in MGS1, but the series has never not been a mess, so it fits.
Actually, I have no problem with them not keeping David Hayter around to play "Big Boss." That role being voiced by someone else makes absolutely perfect sense. What I have a problem with is them not keeping David Hayter around to play Ishmael. If David Hayter played BB in GZ, then Ishmael in MGSV, that would be perfect. It doesn't make sense for actual Big Boss and fake Big Boss to be voice by the same person.
Or at least explain how snake sounds different instead they just change his voice without an explanation
Not thay it wasn't easy to guess straight away with other clues, but wouldn't that make the twist of the medic being venom and venom not being the real snake way way to obvious?
Yeah I agree with that. But honestly the real problem was having David Hayter voice Big Boss in the first place. None of the other Snakes, Liquid or Solidus, sound like him so it's not because he's a clone. He should have had his own voice from the beginning.
4:49. They didn’t use any real firearms in this game. Kojima did not want to pay licensing fees to real firearm companies
Hence his comment about the SAA.
That's a big shame considering how many firearms there was in MGS4
@@LoganProductions54 the saa is basically public domain at this point though isn't it?
@@kylebradley3 the rights are still owned by Colt. I think Kojima didn't want to risk getting into a legal battle.
Sorry but shouldn't the first action sin at the hospital setting be "Why didn't they just blow up the entire hospital, since after all they didn't care for innocent life, wouldn't it have been better to reign in a drone then immediately order a kill squad to check for survivors as even the mercenaries didn't think about capturing Volgin (the man on fire)?"
I am not a fan of the hospital level, but,if a logical reason is needed, then I suppose they needed to confirm Big Boss death, for someone to actually see him die. Big Boss does have a way of slithering out of sure death situations.
If they don't find the bodies, they're not confirmed dead
@@mattwong5403 good point.
Volgin doesn't actually wake up in the same hospital but instead in a plane mid-flight.
The plane then crashed and he disappeared before reappearing in Cyprus as explained in one of the tapes
They could've bombed Bin Laden, but they didn't. Why? Because they need to confirm it's him. Logic.
Next time Bio Shock Infinite.
No mention of "Such a lust for revenge! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?!" becoming a meme the moment it was heard? Kind of a missed opportunity in my opinion.
"Such a lust for sins! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?!"
Sin 55 is probably the reason they all are so willing to abandon their lives to be mercenaries at a sea base.
They probably get paid in Merch, Pillows and Pocky sticks too.
GMP probably stands for General Merchandise Product
Not to mention, a chance to get the ever living daylights beaten out of them by Big Boss. I swear, everyone out there is a masochist when Boss shows up
GMP stands for Gross Military Profit. And Miller and Ocelot probably tell them they ahve no other choice, which could explain why the soldier's morale isn't very high when you first recruit them, and grows when you bring materials, expand the quarters, and bring back whild animals
@@diorsawaaj ita called a joke
Look, they have two choices.
First: They have to watch Ocelot perform tricks for ten hours and then he shoots them
Second: They can taste Miller's Burgers and join Diamond Dogs
@Rocky Ashley "its the sound of a joke going over your head" OMG really? i thought it was the sound of the wc °-°
At 30:48 she was actually suffocating that's why her lips were blue when she got out of the room because all of the clothes on her, and when they tried to drown her she gained her energy back because of the water but the soliders didn't know that.
She also lost her pants which helped her breathe.
The Paz's sidequest is one of the best parts of the game,a very Silent Hill-esque type of sidestory, representing that still the medic had part of his personality (and guilt for her death) buried deep inside.
You did it! You crazy son of a gun actually did it and sinned the entire Metal Gear Saga! My respect man, i appreciate all the work you put into this. It really pays off ^^
Guardian Triple Damage not really. He still needs to sin the first two Metal Gear games, Portable Ops, Peace Walker, and the two As!d games
@@tikalthewhimsicott2736 Well, he covered the main saga. I consider the other games as spin offs but i´d say Peace Walker needs to be sinned since the plot of MGSV builds on this game.
But how are you going to sin an old NES game?
@@elnacho657 weren't Metal Gear Ac!d PSP games? Also, he really should cover PO and PW because he would have hard time finding sins in animated cutscenes
@@elnacho657 son of a gun, or son of a patriot?
@@IamaPERSON I couldn´t decide between son of liberty or gun of the patriot so my dumbfuck brain took over and created this mishmash
To be fair, they did release the most important games to consoles. Including the handheld Peace Walker.
They should have released Peace Walker for the ps3 and not psp. It's too much for a shitty console like that, it could have been a much greater game.
@@Plastofam the HD collection for the PS3 has peace walker dude
Still the technical scope remained. I think everyone was asking that why Peace walker wasnt developed for the PS3 or the Xbox 360 first and foremost, instead relegated to a handheld for kids for starters? (And then the HD version is merely a resolution and frame rate bump)
@@mr.kenway4554 Because of the way it used local coop and your „recruiting“ aka one soldier per WLAN
Definitely a low point in the series as far as story goes, but my god it was the gameplay peak for metal gear
This is so true.
Zero stealth. You can literally clear all main missions by brute force no problem.
Raphael Belmont I think that’s a good thing. You CAN do that. It probably won’t go well and you’ll get a terrible rating and low points, but you can do it if you want. You can also do it with perfect stealth if you want. There are so many avenues you can take to complete a mission. Just because there’s a way you can do it with no stealth doesn’t mean there’s no stealth at all.
Super bland maps. You have to seriously handicap yourself to force you to be stealthy in your missions.
You can literally call Quiet and she will clear the game for you. It has good gameplay, but it's not something outstanding imo. Fulton random soldiers and they become automatically loyal, good mechanic but it makes no sense. Soldiers with braindead AI (as in every stealth game), you can extract a 10 ton tank right at their side and they don't hear or see a thing. The supposed freedom of choice, nope, that's a lie... this game is exactly like hitman: you can either go stealth/ghost, guns blazing or a mix of both. All those fallacies about the gameplay being so malleable that you can play differently in all the missions... bullshit, you are confined to 3 major gameplay concepts. Also, the sandbox is another lie, you go to a "cell", perform your /stealth/action there and then move on. You can raise the alarm and etc, but if you leave and then move to another cell, it will make no difference (the game basically restarts the AI). This is exactly how all the previous MGS games worked, the difference is that in MGSV you have to cover some ground while moving between these cells. And lastly, the boss fights were ridiculous, how can this be the peak of mgs gameplay if the bosses sucks? For me, MGS3 is were the gameplay peaks, the camouflage system makes sense (sometimes, its hard even for the player to spot Snake), braindead AI as always, but at least you are hidden in a acceptable way + you have either fixed camera angles or a third person view.
I'm feeling bored so I decided to nitpick the nitpicky video ...
Sin 10: Venom was kept in an artificial coma until Big Boss woke up as explained in the truth tape
Sin 12: Volgin and Mantis weren't kept in the same hospital, they were in a secret facility that studied their powers. When Big Boss and Venom woke up,they were in a plane flying not far from them and it woke up Volgin who used Mantis' powers to track them. Explained in the third child tapes.
Sin 22 : There's no convincing to do here, young mantis latches on the most hateful person around, you can see to who he's connected because he mirrors some of their designs: The horn for Venom, the burning sleeves for Volgin , Skull Face's mask or Eli's beret on his shoulder.
Sin 24: Venom ask Ocelot in one of the first tapes but Ocelot dodges the question .
Sin 27 : Venom thinks he is Big Boss and looks just like him, reading minds wouldn't change his target .
Sin 32 : Miller's elites soldiers where torn to pieces by the Skulls... If Venom didn't wake up, they would've tried and probably failed miserably but since " Big Boss " was awake, Ocelot put them on standby so that Venom could handle it.
Sin 36: Interpreting a language live and translating it from Russian to English is not that easy, you need to learn how to translate context in a matter of seconds and just speaking the language isn't really the same.
Sin 40 : Having Zero as the villain wouldn't make sense... He's still too attached to Big Boss to do what Skull Face did... Hell, even the ending of Peace Walker is already pretty extreme on that side. Plus, Skull Face represents Cipher running rampant and how much damage it can do, Zero wanted to unite the world using a "the end justify the means " but it backfired... and now nobody can stop what he put in motion,not even him.
Sin 42 : Paz knows way too much for Big Boss to just go "sure,she's dead,let's go!" without seeing her body first.
Sin 45 : COMBAT medic, it's in the name... That and all the soldiers on Mother Base where trained in CQC, add a little hypnotherapy for the "thinking outside the box" of Big Boss and it's not that hard to believe that Big Boss' best soldier could match him.
Sin 46 : Shoot her with the tranquilizer gun ? You can wake up a guard with a small kick, you really think it'll help when the medic open her guts ?
Sin 50 : Kaz's eyes are white when you rescue him, the game doesn't explain what happened there but it's pretty obvious that he can't see the differences. That and he admits in the truth tapes that the doctors kept putting him under until he was far away, that kind of shit fuck with your memory HARD. Add 9 years without seeing the boss and tadaaa...
Sin 53 : You forget to mention that they have a """talk""" with Ocelot before being recruited, so either they are convinced by Big Boss' legend to join the nice way or ....
Sin 63: It's pretty obvious in Peace Walker that all the soldier on Mother Base are big fans on Paz. Now imagine being the medic that opened her guts (causing immense suffering) and still failed to save her ... Yep, that's gonna cause trauma alright and the horns doesn't really help on the "imagination" thing.
Sin 77 : Otacon was too young to remember seing his father work on Metal Gear and soon after that Strangelove hides him far from Huey . Once the Diamond Dogs exile him and Huey returns to civilian life, I higly doubt he'd start explaining to his son how he built a giant death machine for a shadowy organisation and killed his mother...
Sin 92 : The end lungs still worked where Quiet's lung are burned,so on one side we have the parasites helping working organs and on the other we have parasites doing all of the lungs' work, explains why she needs to have more skin exposed (although it's still fanservice,that's the ingame explanation)
Sin 99 : The Battle Gear is still used in deployments though... Just like Zeke was in Peace Walker and here at least you don't have to grind to build it , so there's no point in cutting the whole thing ...
Sin 104 : That scene only happens if you have recruited the interpreter, if not Venom speaks English so it's pretty obvious that the interpreter is translating live and Venom is just repeating the words instead of knowing how to speak the language.
Sin 106: After the mission where you capture Liquid, Ocelot explains in a tape that he interrogated the kids and one of them told him Liquid's real name : Eli.
Sin 116 : Parasites need a few sentences to activate, they won't activate with just a few words so it's better to stay safe.
Sin 123 : He isn't talking about Sahelantropus but about the Walker Gear, remember in an earlier mission the crew was wondering why Cipher was giving away Walkers ? That's why . They give (or sell cheap) the launcher to every military group out there and then sell them nukes the size of the Davy Crockett (from MGS 3) to put on them .
Sin 124 : Nobody knows that Skull Face keeps control over the nukes until the launch, that's the big difference with the SOP. Add the fact that most groups would buy them for detterence more than anything and by the time someone tries to actually launch one, Skull Face would already have a stranglehold on the "private sector nukes".
Sin 127: Snake didn't see Sahelantropus at OKB Zero first, he saw it in the power plant ...
Sin 132: Beyond the assault on the hospital, Skull Face has always been more sneaky about his attempts to kill Venom and now that Venom knows his location, he could unleash all of Diamond Dogs on him which would start a big,noisy war ... That's the kind of attention Skull Face doesn't need when his plan is almost complete. If "Big Boss" starts a war in the middle east, you can be sure the Soviet and the US will investigate which is bad news overall.
Sin 139 : 20 years later they don't have Huey to create a mech like that or Strangelove to program its AI... That and you forget the fact that Sahelantropus barely works, it needs a psychic to make it work whereas Rex works just fine on its own... It can't even launch a nuke ! The closest it had was a self-destruct that turned it into a walking nuke.Plus seeing how the Patriots erased Skull Face from history, I'm pretty sure they destroyed any proof of Sahelantropus existence.
Sin 147 : Some of the soldiers do notice Snake staring in the distance (you can here some of them talk about it on the medical platform). They just don't dare to ask him why because well... Big Boss.
Sin 149 : Quiet does have character depth ... You can see in how she goes from wanting to kill Snake, to working with him , to form a team and finally sacrifice herself for him, you see that trough the buddy bond and how her animations change when it grows. Not only that but the more it evolves the better Venom and her gets as a team to the point that at max level, they're unstoppable. But yeah, since she doesn't have the traditional 20 minutes Metal Gear speech, let's just say she doesn't have character depth -_-
Sin 150 : See Sin 99
Sin 158 : Quiet refused treatment, Code Talker explained it in one of the tapes. It seems she hasn't completly let go of her revenge and keeps the parasite in case she decides to go through with it in the end.
Sin 160 : Parasites can't react to Navajo, Code talker made sure of that ( explained in one of his tapes). Seeing as navajo is immune to the parasites,it'd make sense to teach it to your walking bioweapon in case you need to speak with her.
Sin 163 : It adds to the trauma of Venom, showing that even though he doesn't say it, the events of that night still f*cked him up and leave him with his own guilt and PTSD over the whole ordeal .
Sin 167 : The mutation only needed to happen in one soldier, once he starts speaking to someone that person if screwed and seeing how violent the infected get, a lot of soldiers would have been infected through blood.
Sin 171-173: Quiet IS suffocating because of the clothes , which is why she looks super pale and can't just remove the handcuffs to kill the guards. As for the water, submerging her drowns her, she's okay with a little water only (explained by Ocelot in the "Visit Quiet" side op) but once the guard removes her pant to ... """play""" with her, she can again breathe through the skin of her legs and goes on a rampage.
Sin 185 : There IS a reason : When you begin the game, you see the things from the point of view of a freshly brainwashed, barely awake Venom but when you replay it, it's years later and his memories are back, which means he can look back on it with more clarity.
Sin 186: Really dude ... ? They didn't want to hide Venom from Big Boss' foes but use him as a decoy. They tell him that knowing that he's so confused and in-and-out of consciouness that when he wakes up looking like Big Boss, he won't even question it.
Sin 188: Did you forget the decade between MSG 3 (1964) and Peace Walker (1974) ? Did you forget that during that time they worked closly together to build Cipher with Zero and the others before Big Boss left in 1972 ? That once BB left Ocelot stayed as a spy for Eva and Big Boss ?
All in all, it seems that you played the game on the mute and saw the tape once, thought "how yeah, let's not listen to plot critical thing while playing, I'd much prefer for the game to stop me in my tracks to listen for 20 minutes of infodump like the Codec used to ! " and then wrote the script by regrouping the complaints of people who played 2 hours, said "fuck it" and went on to cry on reddit about how this game is the worst MGS evar . It's a shame really because otherwise the editing is good and some of the joke hit home but just like CinemaSins you're too busy to try nitpicking every second of the game without even thinking 2 seconds about what you're writing ... But hey, at least I had fun spending an hour to write this so, not a total loss.
"That's right, this is now a Sin Double Feature."
What a historic day. Didn't see it coming either.
Welp, that's the end of the Metal Gear Solid Marathon.
Do Bioshock Infinite next!
Snake! *IT'S NOT OVER YET!*
Your request has been fulfilled, just check out his stream archive channel
Lost it at the Area 51 mentions... then I heard they delivered his box- in a box
What part is that at? I'm actually looking for it💀
7:23 for Area 51 mentions.
Edit: 10:00 for the Box in a Box.
24:29 Finally! Someone points out how the Metal Gear in this game (a prequel) is more advanced than later Metal Gears. Thank you so much for doing that!
I was wondering that when I first saw it. Only justification is that the superior research results were lost and no record to recreate it. After all, concrete was discovered during the Roman Empire yet after the fall didn't become widely used again until about a hundred years ago. Digital photography was apparently possible either in the 70s or 80s yet because of corporate rejection didn't see mainstream use until the 2000s. Who knows what other technology was invented yet lost in time?
@@CyranofromBergerac I don't think that it makes too much sense, since both XOF and DD were still in power for a long time and DD themselves had the remains of the sahelantropus. One should also consider that they had developed a levitating tank which also had a railgun, and they maintained it thanks to huey's research after they kicked him out, the only logical answer here is "retcon".
@@reggieloaiza2285 Sahelantropus was taken by ELI and Huey was banished. Episode 51 had them recovering the remains again had it been in the game. I will give you battle gear, but I still believe without Huey metal gear data would most likely be lost. Of course retcon is always an option.
While a weak explenation, it may be because it could not function in normal conditions. It needed to be piloted by a child and could not walk upright without mantis. It was so heavy that motherbase was on the verge of sinking with it on it
So, y'all never played Peacewalker?
The Metal Gears there were years beyond MG and MGS1 Rex yet came 20-30 years prior.
*THE SIIIIIINSSS NEVER DIE*
-Donna Burke (Sins of the Father)
PD: If Konami didn't ripped this game in half, and the missing part was going to be like GZ, it would be a lot more amazing than it already is
I always thought that Quiet used Venom's sniper rifle when attacked by the jet. And i think the bipedal platforms Codetalker was referring to were the small walker gears.
I was addicted to this game when i got around to playing it lol. The side missions are extremely repetitive, but that still didn't stop me from enjoying the shit out of the game. Also, Quiet is thiccc.
Same I never really got the criticisms I had a fun time playing and enjoyed everything except the fights with the skulls
The only thing i can complain about is that you have to keep LT pressed to wield your guns. They could have used LB to sheathe/unsheathe weapons and LT to aim.
@@arx3516 that would be really unnecessary
@@arx3516 how would that work?
Even the main missions are repetitive
30:45: I thought here that the clothes they put on her were making it hard for her to breathe and thus weaker (which would explain why she was so blue.) Then when the Soviet guy takes her pants off she takes in air through her legs and is back to fighting strength. Not trying to discredit the video.
Yes.
Firstly, they put Quiet into a water container, which gave her a boost of energy as she became hydrated.
Secondly, Quiet’s pants being taken off and her shirt being opened allowed her to breathe properly.
Nobody:
"Let's replace David Hayter with the 24 guy!"
David Hayter got worse with each game.
make sense since MGSV is built like a tv series with multiple episodes as missions and all the other MGS are built as a movie.
I'm pretty shure David Hayter came to voicing MGS as a joke, cause he's sooo lame in voice acting. For some reason, his over cartoonized Solid Snake/BB was ok for the fans.
I think they should've had David play BB in GZ. since GZ takes place 1 year after PW, and I doubt that snake's voice would change that much in a year.
I decided a long time ago that if I want to enjoy Metal Gear games, I just need to blindly accept everything Kojima throws at me without giving it much thought. It's been a pretty effective strategy.
Big Boss and his body double do not wake from their coma at the same time. Big Boss woke up first as the "Truth Records" clearly tell that Snake is talking to ocelot.
Well he did say he did not lissen to the none "important" tapes
14:11 He didn’t. It’s now an honest to god gameplay feature in Death’s Stranding.
Konami announces a new Metal Gear game.
It's a Pachinko machine.
THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!!!
I played Metal gear 5 a few missions. Nothing makes sense to me . Makes me wonder Am I stupid or what.
@@Legion849 you're not stupid, MGS has a lot of confusing lore in it.
Kiefer does get a chance to do good snake lines as Ishmael: "we gave her a light, she took the short way down"
That's because the real Big Boss has some sense of humour about him. Venom Snake is a bland, cardboard cut out with very little personality.
Pat and Woolie bring up a brillaint point about that. Think about it from the outside PoV
Skullface: Alright, I need you to go in there, and shoot this guy. He's fresh out of a coma, so, he can barely move. Easy job.
Ten minutes later, Quiet falls out of the window, on fire. From fighting a coma patient.
Skullface: Yep! That's Big Boss!
16:33 for the last x amount of years, nobody's been able to license "Happy Birthday to You"
Snake has never been a chatting person. He has only repeated thing other people has said to him.
Other person: we have to get to the disposalfacility
Snake: disposalfacility?
BS. He was very talkative during MGS3, specially when talking to Zero or EVA.
And he gave a huge speech at the end of MGS4. Of course he is a chatting person, or at least much more than how he is shown in this game.
@@Piscosour95 calm down I was exaggerating to make a joke. But you have to be THAT guy, dont you? Yeah you do
@@Piscosour95 rrrrrrrrrruben
psycho mantis?
I really like the Subtitle of this game, “Phantom Pain” because that’s how it feels to play it.
Especially after Quiet leaves for no fucking reason. I was so goddamn pissed after her contrived ending. Kojimbob just wastes his characters.
@@v2153 Only fitting that Kojima's next game was called "Death Stranding"
Because Death is exactly what you will want after playing it for a while.
@JakeSpacePirate E lol well thank God I saw the writing on the wall before that game came out. The reviews were pretty entertaining.
1. if you bothered to listen to the tapes you would not only remove the sins from not listening to them, but you would have removed sins for the burger tapes
2. there are also other mother base members who are named, most notably Hideo Kojima
3. to hide the fact that Venom Snake wasn't big boss, they probably had him wear a full uniform instead of what he wears in this game, and he probably had the shrapnel shaved down so that it was barely noticeable
4. why didn't you sin Konami
5. Bioshock Infinite
Timothy Manuel Leave it man . Just another UA-camr trashing an unfinished masterpiece . If you look at it ,there are no games like mgs v , just that makes it special and unique
@@dylana.9057 I wouldn't call this a masterpiece, it ruins the half the overarching story.
Timothy Manuel Why would people want to listen to tapes rather than playing the game? Plus, mgs was good for it’s cutscenes (at times) and didn’t need to be completely scrapped.
The burger tapes? I smiled a little listening the first, but it's just a very stupid conversation with a very stupid, weird and useless charachter.
@@dylana.9057 Masterpiece? This inconsistent mess is just another open world waste of time? Not to mention the game deserves every negative statement ever made about it when people got tricked into buying a demo at full game price. MGSV's legacy is a stain on the games industry.
9:48 The soldiers you Fulton in don’t join immediately. They spend various amounts of time in the brig being “convinced” to join. A bit of a stretch, but it makes some sense.
Only some of them do though, almost half of all soldiers you recruit join immediately upon reaching MB, and those that don't only remain for a short amount of time (except special ones, such as the weapons dealer), I guess MB has more healthcare benefits than say, the soviet army.
Put 100 hours into this game and I had no idea there was a hospital room to “visit Paz”
its hilarious how sigint aka the darpa chief makes fun of the idea of walking battle tanks with legs commenting how threads woul fare much better and then funds metal gear rex in 2005
MGS3 was where my interest in the story started to fade.
MGS5 is where the interest of dialogue memes awoke.
I’d buy MGS4 and 5 again for the dialogue... I think that’s what they wanted.
“They played me like a damn fiddle!”
Bold of you to admit the best game in the series lost you.
@@SinHurr Just thought MGS3 was the end. No more story, all tied together. I sleep.
I didn’t expect a 4th one.
I enjoyed this video. I think people tend to forget that in MG2, it was explained that Big Boss survived the Outer Heaven explosion and was fitted with cybernetics to help him survive. Thus making the need for Venom as the “link” between the old and new pointless.
The older games were bound to get retconned sooner or later. If mg1 and 2 ever got remade, im sure they would be made to fit mgs5 narrative.
Silent Hill: Downpour, but honestly sin both
09:35 The Chopper literally has a "Fulton Recovery Arm" attached on the side lmao
You're absolutely right, maybe you just forgot that when you fulton something, it makes a airplane sound right after.
So what is the correct one; The chopper arm or the plane sound?
@@VanerDegon TBH I just think it's bad Sound Design.
In the older games, I think it was Peace Walker it was stated that they have a modified Version of a Helicopter (UH-1D/H Iroquois) with a "Fulton Recovery Hook"
@@VanerDegon I can give you the Link to the MGS Wiki, but I don't know if Links will get my Comment deleted so i Just copy the Part With the "Recovery Hook"
"The Fulton recovery system was employed extensively by Big Boss's Militaires Sans Frontières in the 1970s. During the Peace Walker Incident, it was used to capture downed enemy soldiers, rescue prisoners of war, and to extract personnel from combat zones, using UH-1D/H Iroquois helicopters modified to carry a Fulton recovery hook."
The Same Hook is attached to the Helicopters in the Phantom Pain
26:18 , Actually mother base soldier will speak about this, saying Venom is in the unfinished part of the Medical Platform and they're afraid if venom caught them slacking off. Pretty fun details eh
4:24 Man didn't play Twin Snakes, Mantis wears the gas mask so he can't read mids because people disgust him.
21:43 Well we do live in a world where our own devices we bought from a company are still Monitor and control by said company, and can even turn off our devices if we don’t go to a specific store our specific parts for our devices… y’all know what company I’m talking that does that.
Honestly, I stopped playing the story once I built the zoo
The correct question is "why NOT give it a pecker"?
3:40 - Actually they explain why Volgin and Mantis work for Skullface. Mantis' psychic abilities latch onto people/spirits with very strong feelings/willpower effectively making Mantis a slave to whoever his powers latch onto. Initially, Mantis latched onto Volgin because of his hatred of Big Boss defeating him, then Mantis latched onto Skullface after getting near enough to Skullface prior to Volgin's boss fight in Africa because of Skullface's strong desire for revenge. Because Volgin's body is controlled by Mantis and Mantis' powers are controlled by Skullface. It's less about them wanting to work for Skullface and more about how Mantis' powers have a parasitic relationship with people of strong emotion.
It's also why Mantis ditches Skullface for Eli as Eli is Liquid and he apparently hates Big Boss more than Volgin or Skullface so that's who Mantis' powers latch onto next and why Skullface says "Such a lust for revenge! WHO?!" as he knows how Mantis' powers work (somehow).
And the fact due to its stated kids experience stronger emotions than adults due to developing brain stuff(like more wild signals or something), it causes Eli's emotions to be stronger too.
17:47 Fun fact, Sanke actually speaks english in this scene if you didn't complete side op 4.
“Sanke? What happened?! Sanke?! SANKE!!!!!” - Otcaon
Funny think is, Big Boss IS chatty when he is on screen. He is making quips the whole hospital scene. They didn’t wake up at the same time. Venom was given hypnotherapy before he woke up. And in the truth tapes, we hear how chatty he was when he woke up, which I believe was a few weeks before Venom.
One thing I can't forgive in this game even though i love it.. the god damn intro.
Everything can be explained with nanomachines
Nanomachines son!
What the hell?
NANOMACHINES SON
Ugh colonel ..
Sci-fi unexplained stuff : Quantum
Metal gear : *NANOMACHINE, SON*
In this game though, it’s PARASITES, SON.
And hamburgers.
This video played me like a Damn fiddle
Dartigan, if you spent time properly listening to the tapes you were sinning, you'd know that Volgin was in fact held in a USSR research facility, which took to flame once Psycho Mantis decided to crash the plane he was on and "feed off of the anger" of Volgin. Also, according to those tapes again, Snake did in fact ask about Ishmael, but Ocelot blew off the question. Also, Psycho Mantis' gas mask prevents him from hearing the thoughts of others. It's precisely why he wears it, and because of it he wouldn't know that Venom Snake isn't the real Big Boss. Also also, the Hospital Snake was staying at were exercising his muscles every day, which would at least make it a bit easier on him. As for how the combat medic could become capable of being Big Boss is that (although this is also kinda plot BS) the combat medic had memories of everything Big Boss has done hypnotised into him, giving him the same experience, knowledge, and training of Big Boss. The reason Miller never questions Snakes injuries is because he was in on it with Ocelot from the very beginning too. He knew of the double, even before Snake woke up from his coma. The parasites Quiet uses are BASED off of the parasites The End uses, but are not the same ones. Through a bunch of technicalities (complicated explanations) on tape in the game, it explains how the two are different, but I won't bother. Bottom line is The End didn't need to breathe through his skin nor could he. When Snake speaks to Eli, we could probably presume the Interpreters are providing the phrases, because if you hadn't acquired the Interpreter before this mission, Snake speaks English instead. People call Eli Eli because he said it was his name off camera or they found he was a child of Les Enfantes Terribles or something, idk go check the Tapes you sucker. You also forgot to mention that the The End fight was a repeat of the Sniper Wolf fight.Whilst not a perfect answer to your sin, the Parasite adapts it's understanding of the language it's genetically hardwired to activate to during it's hatching process to adapt to regional dialects. For the remotely deactivated nukes, obviously he won't tell them, it's even stated so in a tape. Naturally, that still leaves the obvious issue of there being no deterrent for the person to actually try (cause they wouldn't know of the consequences), and once people know, it's no longer effective as you mention, but the idea behind it is to act as a failsafe in case anyone wants to actually use the nukes, because Skull Face doesn't want any of them to actually use them, rather he wants everyone to just have them, meaning everyone has the capacity to be a threat to everyone else, so they'd have to recognise them (although no one could actually use the nukes presuming they were mad enough to decide). You presume that the men that were recruited into Diamond Dogs from the field didn't get any background checks. Why do you presume that they'd be so unreasonable? (Thinks for a moment about the game series we're talking about here) Alright fair enough, but still. I heavily doubt it. Despite what the few cut scenes imply, according to tape, Huey is not even allowed anywhere near Sahelanthropus, and it's not being repaired anyways, it's basically there as a massive memento to prove that Diamond Dogs existed and saved the world or some shit, despite that being counter-productive towards them trying so hard not to let any news about Sahelanthropus' existence come about. The cure against the parasite only works when you know the specific strain, which is why Code Talker needed to come with you guys to Mother Base among other reasons. The kids escaped Mother Base by hiding in outward-going transports for cargo or sorty. Motherbase isn't an isolated place with nothing going in and out. Use your brain man.
Sin 61: Literally calls back to MGS3 when Snake was teaching Ocelot a few things about guns :| and at the end he even quotes what Snake said to him and says his "Pretty Good." line
Number 9: venom snake and big boss don’t wake up from comas at the same time, in an audio tape you get after The man who sold the world ( its either Zero visits big boss in the hospital, or a conversation in the hospital with ocelot can’t remember) big boss has been awake for a while but is still recovering, the person talking to him a asks “is he awake yet?” And big boss says “no he hasn’t woken up” implying big boss has been out of his coma for a while and is just recovering or waiting for venom snake to awake, which would be why when big boss gets out of his bed to help venom he can move his body fully and has all his senses unlike venom for which escaping the hospital is the first time he’s left his bed in 9 years.
Finishing MGS4: Well, that game was unnecesary
MGSV: HellO!
It's more about the "Big Boss"'s body double and how he came to be up to the time of Metal Gear, where he dies and the world thought that BB died while the actual BB survives
@@emperorcokelord1021 I know but it really doesn't tell anything of interest in the overall scheme of the saga appart from "that guy killed in that game from 1987? Yeah, it wasn't Big Boss but this other guy". "Big Boss" has like 30 lines of dialogue through the whole game, Ocelot doesn't even act like Ocelot, Liquid comes and goes, Quiet has no more relevance than being a forced love interest?, Skull Face is shit and is terribly shoehorned into MGS3...
Look Kazuhira Miller, and some OC in Metal Gear Survive.
Me: oof
Lmaooo you put the bath water joke in the vid !!
To answer your question, the Paz hallucination quest serves only one purpose.
Kojima promised he would show us the aftermath of ground zero about Paz and chico and how it has affected BB and that's all he could do
It's venom snake torturing himself because he failed to find the second bomb. HIS hands as the medic, HIS actions. It's his personal guilt manifesting through hallucinations. He's lying to himself, going as far as to imagine another scenario where she survived just to ease the pain
But at the end he finally accept it. Venom snake, the medic accept it
Big boss has nothing to do with this
Even in the record tape Paz says something along the lines of "you could kill skull face, slaughter Emmerich, burn the whole world down and it still won't bring me back"
Sin 146: some soldier Talk abaout how snake Talks to him self at that place (:
1 miscounted sin is that Quiet can't be submerged in water or she'll suffocate which is why she has to lend a hand and make sure the helicopter doesn't crash into the open ocean. All the virus stuff was really just an excuse for why shes only wearing underwear and tights the entire game, and her objective isn't just to kill Big Boss but to release the English virus across the base. You are right though that her full motivations and change of heart are never fully explained, other than "Big Boss was just so handsome and strong."
To be fare Konami beefing with Kojima is part of the problem
The cassette tapes were added because after 4 people were complaining about long cutscenes and codec. So Kojima removed them and replaced them with tapes that you can listen at your own leisure. Even after the listening to the tapes, story is decent at best but makes some sense after you give atleast the important ones (yellow marked ones) a listen.
The only mgs content in 2019 is talking about how bad it is
That's sad
The opening face customization is for the medics ORIGINAL face, not his Boss appearance. So yeah actually it makes sense. That's part of the twist also the guy who helps you out of the hospital is the real Boss
The best birthday gift ever? Dartigan uploading on my bday XD
Happy Birthday!! 🎂
ua-cam.com/video/a9EyEwlgVUQ/v-deo.html It's the MGS5 birthday Easter egg, honest.
Happy Birthday!
Happy b day. Its my b day too
@@nostrollerslife happy birthday to you too!
12:23 is the golden moment of this video
Calling it now in 20 years when they finally release Mgs6 they’re going to say Snake wasn’t actually Big boss kid.
He wasn't.... He never was... Solid, Liquid and Solidus were his clones, and Venom was a doppelganger.
@@sebastianb.3978 Eva treated the Snakes as her children, and they refer to Snake as the son of Big Boss multiple times throughout the series.
@@LoganProductions54 Big Boss also says at the end of MGS4 that he never considered Solid Snake his child. They're related to him but they're not family. Even EVA knows that because Les Enfant Terribles was carried out behind Big Boss' back and he was furious about it.
PAZ was packed with such a large explosive for the point of it being found. Chico was allowed to keep his recording device for the point of Snake finding PAZ. Skullface knew Snake was there the entire time. Huey was working with XOF.
"I have no idea why Psycho Mantis involves himself with this..."
It literally tells you in the game.
0:30 You do realize he's probably talking to Big Boss and NOT Venom, right? They're in the same room, so its quite possible he's "talking" to Venom to continue to throw off Boss' pursuers and likely meant to change Boss' face into the Medic's (Venom's real identity) before Quiet axed him...
21:12 Epstein’s ghost misheard and liked this line.
13:55 Actually there is a reason. If you listen to the tapes then you find out Otacon was taken away from Huey and Strangelove. Meaning he wouldn't know of his father's business.
Except Christopher Randolf confirmed that Otacon was fully aware of what Huey had done, and based REX off old MG Sal designs.
This game is a real phantom pain.
18:46 Quiet is unlettered, Ocelot says this, but i don't remember i was in a cutscene or in a casset tape
Pretty Sure Kojima Said After He Left Konami: "You Can Take My Name Out Of My Games, But People Will Never Forget Me"
It doesn't matter what he said. Konami is a soulless company only motivated by maximum profit for minimum effort. They don't care about art
@CreagDog2 I mean yes but Kohima was constantly going over budget they had to draw the line somewhere
@@fommass1008 I mean, Kojima doing art, and art is priceless. If they given him a year more, this game would be a perfection.
@@klarnorbert I sincerely doubt it. This game is deeply flawed from the clumsy story, to the bad villain, to the established characters being shells of themselves, to the boring and repetitive missions. I'm halfway convinced Kojima was trying to sabotage the project just so he could finally stop making these games.
@@MaxLoafin that comment hasn't aged well. Konami hasn't done a single fucking thing since MG survive. They completely went under and stopped producing games.
02:32 And the XOF soldier doesn`t even check who the the patient was screaming to
17:45 What's a neat detail is that if you don't have the interpretor Snake will speak English instead of Afrikaans.
Wait a minute, wasn't the reason as to why snake needed interpreters instead of learning the languages himself, because the "horn" on his head had damaged the "language" part of his brain relegating hin to only speak english?
@@reggieloaiza2285 Now that you mention it yea you're right. Nice catch.
There are some sins here that are just flat out wrong, but I think it's good they were stated. Because despite the fact that I am a big fan of these games and I've even done EVERYTHING in MGS5, I didn't know plenty of stuff that should've been simple until I read individual characters' wikis due to the poor way information was told to the player.