Just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to run all these tests on cheap motors. I have been building rc planes for a few months now, and I have to say that trying to match motors and propellers to a specific airframe is one thing that gives me constant headaches.. I have two of these motors and I like them, even if I only tried them on a few FT Flyers.The first of which flew quite well at the maiden flight on 3s and 7X3.5, until one wing delaminated mid air, causing it to plunge nose first from 15meters :D The motor survived, but the bearings took a beating and make an awful noise. So I got another one for a more robust, but heavier Flyer, on 3s and 8X4.5 props. It flew quite well I have to say. But I lost the plane, so I was considering buying another one (unless I decide it is bad luck, I am getting superstitious now :D
my pleasure mate, i also had the same issue matching motor prop combo to different planes and i thought I'll publish what i know to help others ! sorry to hear about ur crashes and plane that got lost. i have lost few and crashed many so you are not alone there! lol
@@asangag Thanks! One great thing about RC is really the community, there are so many people willing to share plans, testing results or simply good advice, thanks for contributing to that :) And yes, I start suspecting that not letting crashes, failures and problems discourage you is the main distinctive trait of RC people. I am so glad someone convinced me to get into scratch builds because it makes so much cheaper for a beginner than flying and crashing shop models :D Do you fly both multi rotors and planes?
@@aldotanca9430 yes scratch build is the way to go when you are a beginner. Thats how I started too! I have few quads (cheap ones) but I dont really like flying them. I like the planes , the gliding characteristics, airfoils, control surfaces, etc
@@asangag I realised I like planes better too. I have a Parrot drone, which is an amazing thing for photography and so easy to pilot, but when it comes to enjoying the flying itself, planes are so much fun.
the first motor in the description is not correct . 7035 E Prop, 8.13 A (max) , 99.99W (max), 898g (thrust) , 4.89 g/w if the amp is correct then 898g / 99.99w = 8.98 G/W not 4.89G/W ,which makes it an awesome efferent prop, sure about the numbers? edit: saw the video again if its the first motor then its 490g not 890g
Hi there, which propeller is suitable for this 1400kv motor? I used 1400kv with 9 inch prop.30A esc got damaged.do i need higher amp ESC? Pls help..iam confused
@@aju5405 with 9 inch prop and 3S lipo its gonna draw more than 30A current. so you need at least 40A ESC. 9 inch prop is too big for that motor as the current draw is higher than max current rating for the motor and you could over heat and probably burn the motor. best to use 8 inch prop
Hi, can you tell me your opinion? , i want to use this motor, in 600 grams airplane with Esc. 40a, lipo 3s 2200 mah , and apc 7X7 propeller ? thank you
hi, that combination will work fine for the 600g weight. It will be a fast plane with 7x7 prop but less efficient. if you want more efficiency go with lower pitch like 7x3.5 or 7x5
@@forrsill9628 brand of the esc doesn't really matter as long.as the current rating is high, APC style prop should give you about 700g of thrust. Is your scale accurate ?
There's too many variables becuase different C ratings, esc, prop MFG will produce different results...even Sea level.. I can tell you I use the cheap 2212 1000KV on a 10x5 gemfan, 40A simontec esc on over rate 20C 3s lipo. It'll fly a 44" x35" cub. The wing chords is also 9" it's around 800-850 AUW. It also has 3 1/2 " wheels. It's plenty fast to fly. it's more than scale. It's heavier becuase I reinforce the entire front end with 1mm plywood. Aluminum landing gears and blocks. Screw in wing mount...plywood doublers and blocks....Most people are going to build the FT Cub at 650 grams AUW average. it's only 38" wing It has power to do loops even on the crappy lipo I practice doing all the basic AEROBATIC patterns type flying with it. It cant do a torque roll. but it has enough to do sports aerobatics. On good 30C lipo it has more gusto. 7-10 mins...depends how to fly it. It's a BIG model build from dallor foam board. Every runs COOL It's the same size as e flight tundra...ect I also build a 30" F-18...it's beefy. i have plywood reinforcements everywhere. The wings also had regular airfoil...on 2212 2200KV....6x-4 same batteries, ect It's probably around 700 Grams ect It's too fast for me.. :-P ...I crashed it at 2 mins...didnt even get it to 7 mins.Lmao You need more sky than you think. The models are faster than you think. Im building a twin boom at the moment..will use 1400 KV 40" wing 8 .5 " chord...Im puting wheels on it. If i build around 800-850 AUW....it's all good...9 x 4.5 willl work :-P My crappy lipo might do 1000 grams. It'll be plenty fast It's a smaller model with less drag...with heavier wing load...it wont float as much...but it'll cut through the wind better than the cub. If you're worry about weight... or dont want to build perfect just go to 2217 1100kv or 1250KV They're only $12 singles or 6-ea for $42...which comes out to only $7 ea per motors. Which is the same price as 2212. You'll need SPARE...you'll bend the shaft, bearings will wear.ect Trust me...it's nice to have spare motors. You can get 40A esc for $5-$10...or $28 for 4-ea... It's all around the same price ,..Cheap You can even build from CARD BOARD or corrigate foam board if you wanted You should get around 1200 grams ro more ...give or take to ..with a 2217 3000 mah 3s 30 is $25-$30 for 2-ea.. Build 800-900 grams models and burn holes in the sky all day long.
Very usefull video. Thanks! I have the same motor on a twin boom pusher that I'll finish to build soon. Total weight is 540gr with a 2.2A LiPo. It will be enough a 7x5 APC-E propeller for a pusher?
according my test 7x5 APC prop will produce 680g of static thrust and that is more than enough to push your 540g pusher. for normal flying all you need is about 75% of the weight in thrust which in your case is about 400g of thrust. you should be able to do vertical climb with that motor prop combo :) , good luck !
Thanks for the good video sir. I have a question. I have a 40A Esc and two A2212/10T 1400kv and 8040(8x4) propeller. 1. Is 40A esc enough ? 2. What Batterie should I use? I am between 2 and 3s but I think 3s would be better because two motors are on my plane and 2s would be two weak. Sorry for my bad english.
40A ESC is plenty for this motor if you use 3S. 2S would be two weak and you will not get the best performance out of the motors. so 3S , 40A ESC is good combination :)
@@asangag Thank you for the fast answering. So 40A esc is enough for both motors. Nice. And what Batterie should I use for it ? 3s how much Mah ? I am thinking about 3S 5100mAh 20C.How long can the plane with 5100mAh? This 20C means how much it can discharge,if I am not wrong. Is this enough ? I like the video and follow you.👍 Thanks again for the fast answering.
@@memoflix1075 one motor with 8x4 would be enough depending on the all up weight of your plane . 8x4 will produce close to 1000g in static thrust and if your plane weighs 1kg or less then you can have a fast plane with power for aerobatics . flying time depwnds on how you fly, wind condition ,etc but with 3000mah you should easily get 15min of flying time
10x5 is bit too big for this motor, it will draw close to 30A and 30A ESC will get pretty hot. also 10x5 is not very efficient. go with 9x5 or 8x4 which are more efficient and draws around 20A .
this motor is 1400 KV and cant handle bigger props as it does not have the torque to rotate bigger props fast enough to generate thrust. therefore anything above 9 inches it struggles to rotate and the efficiency goes down significantly .
Hi. I am trying to shop for part before building my 1st rc trainer.. Parts - A2212 - 1400Kv 8 x 6 prop 40 Amp ESC 2200 mAH 3s - 50C battery (approx weight 200g) 10 channel receiver 4 * 9G servo control surfaces (Aler, Rud, Elev) 80 cm wing span with foam board I assume weight should come between 700-900 gm will this combination work?
this motor is too small for your 3D plane. if ur plane weighs 1300g (all up) then you need the motor /prop combo to produce well over 1300g of static thrust to be b able to do 3D , specially hover & knife edge soft of things. according to my test 9" prop produces about 1200g max with 3S Lipo which is not enough for your 3D plane. But if you use 4S Lipo you could still use it on your plane as my test says it can produce 1600g with 9" prop and 1400g with 8" prop but with less efficiency. and you need 40A ESC, here is the test ua-cam.com/video/xPuZMM1QvQ4/v-deo.html. please subscribe if you like my channel ...that helps!
It could be one of the windings has a short somewhere causing a magnetic flux leakage. This could happen when motors overheat and caused damage to the enamel layer of the copper wire
@@Surferant666 I think VTOL convergence is too small to carry a SLR camera that weighs 1.5kg. you need a much bigger plane which has more payload capacity .
the first motor in the description is not correct . 7035 E Prop, 8.13 A (max) , 99.99W (max), 898g (thrust) , 4.89 g/w if the amp is correct then 898g / 99.99w = 8.98 G/W not 4.89G/W ,which makes it an awesome efferent prop, sure about the numbers?
Can you plz provide a code for this motor ... For arduino uno . bcz I am getting only 380/390 gm thrust force in which I have Used 1400kv with 3s lipo And 8045 propeller.
Thats very low thrust for that motor. Looks like your esc is not working correctly or the timing is not correct. I haven't used arduino uno with motors so I don't have a code
@@arvindprajapati6921 No I have not used Arduino mega to run motors. timing means pluses which can be programmed depending on the ESC you have. generally there are 2 or 3 timing settings on ESC you can select. have you calibrated the throttle on your ESC ?
No man it can handle up to 20A without any issues. I have operated these motors even over 20A without burning them. Only downside is efficiency goes down above 15A.
@@asangag as you like man but if you read the specs of those motors a2212 they are limited to 10amps and burst at 12a check it: www.amazon.com/abcGoodefg-Brushless-Propeller-Accessories-Quadcopter/dp/B07DVLHFPF
the first motor in the description is not correct . 7035 E Prop, 8.13 A (max) , 99.99W (max), 898g (thrust) , 4.89 g/w if the amp is correct then 898g / 99.99w = 8.98 G/W not 4.89G/W ,which makes it an awesome efferent prop, sure about the numbers?
the first motor in the description is not correct . 7035 E Prop, 8.13 A (max) , 99.99W (max), 898g (thrust) , 4.89 g/w if the amp is correct then 898g / 99.99w = 8.98 G/W not 4.89G/W ,which makes it an awesome efferent prop, sure about the numbers?
Just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to run all these tests on cheap motors. I have been building rc planes for a few months now, and I have to say that trying to match motors and propellers to a specific airframe is one thing that gives me constant headaches.. I have two of these motors and I like them, even if I only tried them on a few FT Flyers.The first of which flew quite well at the maiden flight on 3s and 7X3.5, until one wing delaminated mid air, causing it to plunge nose first from 15meters :D
The motor survived, but the bearings took a beating and make an awful noise. So I got another one for a more robust, but heavier Flyer, on 3s and 8X4.5 props. It flew quite well I have to say. But I lost the plane, so I was considering buying another one (unless I decide it is bad luck, I am getting superstitious now :D
my pleasure mate, i also had the same issue matching motor prop combo to different planes and i thought I'll publish what i know to help others ! sorry to hear about ur crashes and plane that got lost. i have lost few and crashed many so you are not alone there! lol
@@asangag Thanks! One great thing about RC is really the community, there are so many people willing to share plans, testing results or simply good advice, thanks for contributing to that :) And yes, I start suspecting that not letting crashes, failures and problems discourage you is the main distinctive trait of RC people. I am so glad someone convinced me to get into scratch builds because it makes so much cheaper for a beginner than flying and crashing shop models :D Do you fly both multi rotors and planes?
@@aldotanca9430 yes scratch build is the way to go when you are a beginner. Thats how I started too! I have few quads (cheap ones) but I dont really like flying them. I like the planes , the gliding characteristics, airfoils, control surfaces, etc
@@asangag I realised I like planes better too. I have a Parrot drone, which is an amazing thing for photography and so easy to pilot, but when it comes to enjoying the flying itself, planes are so much fun.
@@aldotanca9430 yes definitely
the first motor in the description is not correct . 7035 E Prop, 8.13 A (max) , 99.99W (max), 898g (thrust) , 4.89 g/w
if the amp is correct then 898g / 99.99w = 8.98 G/W not 4.89G/W ,which makes it an awesome efferent prop, sure about the numbers?
edit: saw the video again if its the first motor then its 490g not 890g
Wow super Test
Hi there, which propeller is suitable for this 1400kv motor? I used 1400kv with 9 inch prop.30A esc got damaged.do i need higher amp ESC? Pls help..iam confused
are u using 3s or 4s battery ?
@@asangag iam using 3s 2200mah battery
What is the main difference between e prop and sf prop? Which prop is this
@@aju5405 with 9 inch prop and 3S lipo its gonna draw more than 30A current. so you need at least 40A ESC. 9 inch prop is too big for that motor as the current draw is higher than max current rating for the motor and you could over heat and probably burn the motor. best to use 8 inch prop
@@asangagok..I will try with 8 inch prop 👍
Hi, can you tell me your opinion? , i want to use this motor, in 600 grams airplane with Esc. 40a, lipo 3s 2200 mah , and apc 7X7 propeller ? thank you
hi, that combination will work fine for the 600g weight. It will be a fast plane with 7x7 prop but less efficient. if you want more efficiency go with lower pitch like 7x3.5 or 7x5
let me know how it goes , so that ur findings can be a help for others :)
@@asangag here the video result ua-cam.com/video/hCYdzYD_dHU/v-deo.html greetings.
is it normal if 7x5 E prop just Made thrust around 550-560gr with 3s LiPo?
that is a bit low for 7x5 E prop. is ur ESC rated for at least 25A ? also is ur lipo has a high C -rating ?
@@asangag yeah, i use 3s 65c with 40A ESC. My friend said it happens because the style of prop looks like an apc
@@asangag is it possible because of the non brand ESC?
@@forrsill9628 brand of the esc doesn't really matter as long.as the current rating is high, APC style prop should give you about 700g of thrust. Is your scale accurate ?
@@asangag yeah, the we have same scale
pl
can you please give the results of 1k and 2k kv motors like this
the closest to 1k is ua-cam.com/video/_XunMEmbKY8/v-deo.html or ua-cam.com/video/HpFzchcO-Pk/v-deo.html. I dont have 2000kv motor to test
Asanga can you confirm the results of the 7035 prop because based on watts and thrust it seems the 4.89 g per watt is wrong calculation
yes you are correct. I made a mistake there and tanks for pointing it out the max thrust is 498g (not 898g) . but the g/w is correct which is 4.98g/w
There's too many variables becuase different C ratings, esc, prop MFG will produce different results...even Sea level..
I can tell you I use the cheap 2212 1000KV on a 10x5 gemfan, 40A simontec esc on over rate 20C 3s lipo. It'll fly a 44" x35" cub. The wing chords is also 9"
it's around 800-850 AUW. It also has 3 1/2 " wheels. It's plenty fast to fly. it's more than scale. It's heavier becuase I reinforce the entire front end with 1mm plywood.
Aluminum landing gears and blocks. Screw in wing mount...plywood doublers
and blocks....Most people are going to build the FT Cub at 650 grams AUW average. it's only 38" wing
It has power to do loops even on the crappy lipo
I practice doing all the basic AEROBATIC patterns type flying with it.
It cant do a torque roll. but it has enough to do sports aerobatics.
On good 30C lipo it has more gusto.
7-10 mins...depends how to fly it. It's a BIG model build from dallor foam board.
Every runs COOL
It's the same size as e flight tundra...ect
I also build a 30" F-18...it's beefy. i have plywood reinforcements everywhere.
The wings also had regular airfoil...on 2212 2200KV....6x-4 same batteries, ect
It's probably around 700 Grams ect It's too fast for me.. :-P ...I crashed it at 2 mins...didnt even get it to 7 mins.Lmao
You need more sky than you think. The models are faster than you think.
Im building a twin boom at the moment..will use 1400 KV
40" wing 8 .5 " chord...Im puting wheels on it.
If i build around 800-850 AUW....it's all good...9 x 4.5 willl work :-P
My crappy lipo might do 1000 grams. It'll be plenty fast
It's a smaller model with less drag...with heavier wing load...it wont
float as much...but it'll cut through the wind better than the cub.
If you're worry about weight... or dont want to build perfect
just go to 2217 1100kv or 1250KV They're only $12 singles
or 6-ea for $42...which comes out to only $7 ea per motors.
Which is the same price as 2212.
You'll need SPARE...you'll bend the shaft, bearings will wear.ect
Trust me...it's nice to have spare motors.
You can get 40A esc for $5-$10...or $28 for 4-ea...
It's all around the same price ,..Cheap
You can even build from CARD BOARD or corrigate foam board if you wanted
You should get around 1200 grams ro more ...give or take
to ..with a 2217
3000 mah 3s 30 is $25-$30 for 2-ea..
Build 800-900 grams models and burn holes in the sky all day long.
Very usefull video. Thanks! I have the same motor on a twin boom pusher that I'll finish to build soon. Total weight is 540gr with a 2.2A LiPo. It will be enough a 7x5 APC-E propeller for a pusher?
according my test 7x5 APC prop will produce 680g of static thrust and that is more than enough to push your 540g pusher. for normal flying all you need is about 75% of the weight in thrust which in your case is about 400g of thrust. you should be able to do vertical climb with that motor prop combo :) , good luck !
cool. thank you!
Thanks for the good video sir. I have a question. I have a 40A Esc and two A2212/10T 1400kv and 8040(8x4) propeller.
1. Is 40A esc enough ?
2. What Batterie should I use? I am between 2 and 3s but I think 3s would be better because two motors are on my plane and 2s would be two weak.
Sorry for my bad english.
Or should I use only one Motor with the 40A esc, 8040(8x4)prop and 3s lipo.
Is this strong enough and how long can I fly with a 3s lipo ≈3000mAh ?
40A ESC is plenty for this motor if you use 3S. 2S would be two weak and you will not get the best performance out of the motors. so 3S , 40A ESC is good combination :)
@@asangag Thank you for the fast answering. So 40A esc is enough for both motors. Nice.
And what Batterie should I use for it ?
3s how much Mah ? I am thinking about 3S 5100mAh 20C.How long can the plane with 5100mAh? This 20C means how much it can discharge,if I am not wrong. Is this enough ?
I like the video and follow you.👍
Thanks again for the fast answering.
@@memoflix1075 one motor with 8x4 would be enough depending on the all up weight of your plane . 8x4 will produce close to 1000g in static thrust and if your plane weighs 1kg or less then you can have a fast plane with power for aerobatics . flying time depwnds on how you fly, wind condition ,etc but with 3000mah you should easily get 15min of flying time
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Thanks for good video. İ have a question.is 30 A esc enough for 10×5 . İf it is not which prop Shell i ise?
İ mean use
10x5 is bit too big for this motor, it will draw close to 30A and 30A ESC will get pretty hot. also 10x5 is not very efficient. go with 9x5 or 8x4 which are more efficient and draws around 20A .
@@asangag thank you very much
why 1047 gives less thrust than 9047
this motor is 1400 KV and cant handle bigger props as it does not have the torque to rotate bigger props fast enough to generate thrust. therefore anything above 9 inches it struggles to rotate and the efficiency goes down significantly .
Hi, I’ve built a 3D plane 3s lipo & 1400kv with AUW of 730g best prop for that? (I need more performance) ? Please help
use 9047 slow fly or 9x5 APc type which will give you plenty of power with easy verticals
@@asangag thanks man 🫡
can you tell me that i have 40 inch span lenght and 30 inch fuselarge : so can you suggest me how much kv of motor and propeller is best for fly fast
I have very similar size planes and 1400kv motor with 8x4 APC prop will give you more than enough thrust . what is the weight of the plane ?
my 60iin bixler has 1400kn/8x4 apc prop ua-cam.com/video/PNHaIsyD3Lc/v-deo.html
How about if I use 80x60 prop? Thanks
8060 is same as 8x6. Some manufacturers label them as 8060. I have already tested 8x6 here.
Hi. I am trying to shop for part before building my 1st rc trainer..
Parts - A2212 - 1400Kv
8 x 6 prop
40 Amp ESC
2200 mAH 3s - 50C battery (approx weight 200g)
10 channel receiver
4 * 9G servo control surfaces (Aler, Rud, Elev)
80 cm wing span with foam board
I assume weight should come between 700-900 gm
will this combination work?
that combination is very good , you have plenty of power. If you want more flight time go with 8x4 APC prop
@@asangag really, looks like the weight of the plane is a bit heavy
@@asangag i used configuration as above but with battery only 2000ma 10c and my plane weighs 650g, is it ok
@@KhangNguyen-gi1dw which prop did you use ?
@@asangag i use 8x6 prop
Video muito útil... top
What is C rating of the battery ?
35 c
I’m planning to use this motor on 3D plane weighing 1300g. Shall i use 9” prop with 30A ESC? or this motor is bit small?
this motor is too small for your 3D plane. if ur plane weighs 1300g (all up) then you need the motor /prop combo to produce well over 1300g of static thrust to be b able to do 3D , specially hover & knife edge soft of things. according to my test 9" prop produces about 1200g max with 3S Lipo which is not enough for your 3D plane. But if you use 4S Lipo you could still use it on your plane as my test says it can produce 1600g with 9" prop and 1400g with 8" prop but with less efficiency. and you need 40A ESC, here is the test ua-cam.com/video/xPuZMM1QvQ4/v-deo.html.
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Asanga Gunatilake thanks for this details answer it is really helpful
I have 4 pieces A2212 1400kv but one of them is start working from %50 duty cycle. rest of them is starting from %0 have u got any idea about that?
It could be one of the windings has a short somewhere causing a magnetic flux leakage. This could happen when motors overheat and caused damage to the enamel layer of the copper wire
@@asangag Thank you I am gonna check the all wires
Good job.Thank a lot.
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Is this the best motor ?
Depending on the application
@@asangag i want to use an slr camera which weighs about 1.5 kg
@@Surferant666 is the camera on a plane, drone, quad ? Propeller size, all up weight.....
@@asangag Vstol eflite Convergence
@@Surferant666 I think VTOL convergence is too small to carry a SLR camera that weighs 1.5kg. you need a much bigger plane which has more payload capacity .
Greate Video ,thank you for the review
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Is 3s li-po battery enough with 9x5 propeller?
yes, it will give you about 1100g of thrust and draw about 20A and be very efficient too
the first motor in the description is not correct . 7035 E Prop, 8.13 A (max) , 99.99W (max), 898g (thrust) , 4.89 g/w
if the amp is correct then 898g / 99.99w = 8.98 G/W not 4.89G/W ,which makes it an awesome efferent prop, sure about the numbers?
Can you plz provide a code for this motor ... For arduino uno . bcz I am getting only 380/390 gm thrust force in which I have Used 1400kv with 3s lipo And 8045 propeller.
Thats very low thrust for that motor. Looks like your esc is not working correctly or the timing is not correct. I haven't used arduino uno with motors so I don't have a code
@@asangag had you Used arduino mega Or what ? And I am using 30A ESC. . And you are saying about timing means pulses Or what ?
@@asangag waiting for your kind reply 😄
@@arvindprajapati6921 No I have not used Arduino mega to run motors. timing means pluses which can be programmed depending on the ESC you have. generally there are 2 or 3 timing settings on ESC you can select. have you calibrated the throttle on your ESC ?
what is mean of APC and E APC
E = electric
Is it 10t or 13t brushless motor
12t
apc means
APC= advanced precision composite
i wanna give you100000 likes
That would be wonderful! :)
Maybe you have to tell us what prop you use for every test, otherwise your test is useless
may be if you look at the description ...there is a big list of all the props ! :-)
You are burning your motor man this motor should not exceed 180watts
No man it can handle up to 20A without any issues. I have operated these motors even over 20A without burning them. Only downside is efficiency goes down above 15A.
@@asangag as you like man but if you read the specs of those motors a2212 they are limited to 10amps and burst at 12a check it:
www.amazon.com/abcGoodefg-Brushless-Propeller-Accessories-Quadcopter/dp/B07DVLHFPF
the first motor in the description is not correct . 7035 E Prop, 8.13 A (max) , 99.99W (max), 898g (thrust) , 4.89 g/w
if the amp is correct then 898g / 99.99w = 8.98 G/W not 4.89G/W ,which makes it an awesome efferent prop, sure about the numbers?
the first motor in the description is not correct . 7035 E Prop, 8.13 A (max) , 99.99W (max), 898g (thrust) , 4.89 g/w
if the amp is correct then 898g / 99.99w = 8.98 G/W not 4.89G/W ,which makes it an awesome efferent prop, sure about the numbers?