Nonsense. Fossil fuel cars are getting rationed because they get fined on the percentage of EV sales. It’s being manipulated by the dealership because they get fined for not selling the right percentage of EV. To mandate and fine the car companies is stupid and will make them bankrupt.
Rolling out electric cars is pie in the sky. I am quite interested in owning one, but, and here's the thing, I live in rural area with street parking away from my property. The nearest chargers are 12 miles away, and they are in a supermarket car park and more often than not are not working. It is simply not practical for me and, I am sure, I am not alone in this. Bullying people into an impractical solution for an issue that has not been thought through properly was only ever going to be a disaster. The Government needs to 'get real' and build the infrastructure first.
The infrastructure is growing rapidly and will grow hand in hand with EV adoption. There is all sorts of tech being developed to enable the electric future.
I've been harping on about the infrastructure for ages and I get slated for it, I'm glad to see someone else has noticed this too, where I live there are 12 charge points in the town and outlying area, 10 of which aren't connected to the grid which, a local MP complained about to the appropriate government body, they're still not up and running, the others are in the centre of town in the most expensive car park where you're expected to pay for parking as well as charging, only one charger is working, what does that say about the infrastructure?
@@andrewgage6942 There will always be anecdotal stories about peoples experiences with charging. You say there are 12 charge points and some in the town centre. Ok not the best by the sound of it. But 2 years ago there was probably zero. I remember when I first had My EV. Charging points basically didn't exist by me. I charged from home so it didn't matter. There are now numerous chargers I could go to, including two at work. For most people there is more than enough charging, and it will only increase.
Its because china wants you to. NGOs, Media and the "Think Tanks" are all under chinese payroll. You are a fool if you think Kier Stalin doesn't make money from this. Who owns 86% of worlds mines, mining raw material for battery manufacturing ? China Who own the battery tech ? China Who has the manufacturing tech ? China Think about it. The mandate policies stem directly from Maoist ideology not capitalist or free market ideology. If the time is right for EVs then people would line up to buy them instead of searching the used car market. Without any investment and almost zero ground support for EVs why would the free market make the transition ? So you force people into it. Like you force people into labour camps in china.
Duh! We have to cut green house gas emissions. Countries have agreed to meet targets. The planet has too much heat caused hugely by people driving everywhere, often unnecessarily as folk be getting fat for a reason
@@DG-ie5ip Over the last few years and especially this last year I've come to realise the UK administration through the years is nothing short of criminal.
EV's at this point are inevitable. People hate change, if we don't embrace whats coming. we fall behind. Legacy auto are in a mess. Took too long to react the the changing vehicle landscape, and are now struggling to compete with the Likes of Tesla and the growing threat of Chinese made EV's.
The journalists don’t understand numbers so they promote stupid ideas. Politicians don’t understand the numbers either but spending other people’s money is easy. ua-cam.com/video/OEkIh2PcSYE/v-deo.htmlsi=fRmJstZUgcsupkOp
@@momurda6 Reality Battery electric vehicles (BEVs) were the only powertrain to record growth, with a raft of new models driving the strongest growth this year, up 24.5% to reach a 20.7% share of the market. UK new car buyers now have more than 125 different BEV models to choose from - an uplift of 38% over the last 10 months.
This guy is as mad as the government if he thinks we can swop all our petrol and diesel vehicles to electric. Even the Tories had second thoughts by putting the date for the sale of new petrol cars back from 2030 to 2035 but Labour restored the date to 2030 without consulting anyone which was madness. Now however they are saying they are consulting the car industry but I still don't think they have the intelligence or common sense to appreciate just how impractical the switch to electric vehicles truly is. As Ford said, the demand for electric vehicles is not there! People don't want them, they can't afford them, they don't find them practical and they won't be able to charge them. They are not even greener if you are a low mileage user and the extra weight of the batteries wears out the roads and causes far more injuries in crashes to pedestrians and cyclists as well as other road users. I also understand that insurance is also a great deal more expensive. Electric cars are only going to be a niche market for the affluent, most of whom will be 2+ car households where the other vehicles they own are petrol or diesel!!!
If you need a cheap car to get to work then EVs are too expensive and not feasible to charge up if you live in a flat or a terraced house. Also, in many parts of the country there are few alternatives to driving as buses are unreliable, train fares are expensive and many people see cycling as too dangerous. The politicians are hopelessly out of touch on this one.
@DG-ie5ip for now, no one "has" to change, although lukewarm government policy aside, you should change if you have any concerns for the future sustainability of the species.
@@DevAnubis My petrol car does between 500 & 550 miles and regularly drive a round trip of 400 miles with no chance of charging at my mid point. (These journeys account for 80% of my annual mileage.) The nearest chargers are all between 5 & 10 miles away with a max stay of two hours. When i return home I have more than enough fuel for my driving that week and when I pass a filling station I top up. If i didn't have my long journeys I still wouldn't want a EV but If i had a drive and the prices were right I would
@@DevAnubis cars contribute only with 10% of the carbon emissions worldwide hardly a species saver converting to EVs. And the UK's emissions are just 1% of the total so if your whole island sinks in the ocean tomorrow there will be zero impact on the climate. So no you are not saving the planet you are just driving too expensive wheecle that puts strain on the electricity grid that is still 57% powered by coal causing more coal burning to plug the gap.
@@DevAnubis If a workman turned up at my parents house and asked to plug his van in while he is there my father would tell him exactly where to stick his cable. Why should he? And, if a tradesman only works within the range of his van (full of tools) he will not get much business. ULEZ f'kd them up enough.
And what was that £5k car worth when it was factory-new? How old was it when you bought it? Whilst the options for £5k EVs today are slim and represent earlier lower-range EVs, its merely a matter of time before the newer generation of EVs launched from 2021-ish onwards reaches the lower end of the second-hand market.
@@DevAnubis Battery degradation will ensure that EV's never reach the lower end of the second-hand market in value, most will be economically unviable scrap before their 15th anniversary..
@@oldmanonamotorbikeinbucks7604 judging by the 10+ year old Teslas going strong, it's quite likely they'll live longer than most modern combustion engines do in terms of remaining economical to operate.
What crisis ? I can drive from the north of England to well south of Arras on a tank of diesel, and after a 15 minute top up , I can be on my way south . 20 years old Peugeot 306 and no computer .
@@DevAnubis Did I say I didn’t stop for a break ? You miss the point . How heavy are modern cars, electric or petrol and diesel ? Just look at the shear size of modern cars. It’s absurd . The whole issue needs a fresh look.
@californiadreamin8423 If you stop for a reasonable break, you can charge whilst you do so. Many EVs today can add 200 miles in 10 minutes of charge. That's nearly 3 hours of solid driving, enough for anyone's bladder to be crying out. And yes, vehicle size is absolutely a problem. Smaller EVs go further for the same energy, so can go the same distance with a smaller battery, and vice versa.
Public charging is too expensive and the charging time and range it’s there yet, people need to charge at home, if you haven’t a drive the councils need to be installing cable gully’s .
Vauxhall Luton produces an electric Van that last's only 70 miles or 50 miles with the heating turned on and takes an hour to charge that is the problem.
Vauxhall Vivaro Electric - The 50kWh unit has a range of up to 143 miles while the 75kWh battery delivers a range of up to 205 miles. Vauxhall Combo Electric - The official WLTP range is 205 miles, which is an improvement over the 171 miles it offered previously.
Are you saying that it is reasonable for the tradesman that I employ to travel 30 miles to get to me, and then not have a lunch? The biggest fleet of vans I see are parcel delivery vans and of course you are going to tell me that they are special cases that do not count because they stop regularly meaning the regen braking is charging these.
@@sarahandadrianwicks870 there are a lot of rivian delivery trucks here in the us that are delivering packages for Amazon every day, Seems to work fine for them,
@@Diamonddavej Take off a third because range figures are unattainable. Then advice from "experts" is to charge to only 80% and charge again when the battery reaches 20%. Instead of 205 miles you end up with about 80 miles.
I worked for a renewables energy company. Foreign owned. It doesn’t matter how many wind farms or solar farms we build, we can’t get them connected to the grid. National grid is slow. A few weeks ago we had no wind and some gas stations had to be switched on to fill the gap. In addition, even if we have wind, we can’t store the energy created. Once you’re all on an EV you’ll find that energy is rationed and really expensive. I’m too old to care and driving around in an old v8 M5. All of the businesses that build the wind farms are foreign owned with share holders and private investors, they want a return on their investment, you will not get cheaper energy bills either. It’s a massive con for the public.
Parity on second hand value he says between petol/diesel cars and electric cars. Means that electric car owners have taken a huge hit when new car prices are 15-20k more than petroldiesel cars.
The fact that slowing car sales (all cars, not just EVs), have been used to beat down the electric vehicle business, has shown me there's a strong political motivation behind it. Tesla's revenue goes up every year. BYD's revenue goes up every year. The legacy companies that have one foot in and one foot out of the EV camp are inefficient and dying. Just like hybrids are inefficient and dying. Wasting resources on 2 engines doesn't work. And before any of this chat, we saw the likes of Honda, Ford, Nissan all making cuts in the UK. Yet the MSM refuses to jump on Brexit the way it seizes on EVs. NO company is investing billions in the UK with a background of ongoing EU tariff uncertainty.
Colin Walker must be living on another planet. Many of the so called EV sales are pre registered cars pushed by manufacturers to try and meet the ZEV mandate. Just look at Autotrader and see how many cars are listed with just 10 or 50 miles on them at massively disscounted prices and they are still not selling. Look what's happening in the market where a lease company ONTO that only dealt with EV's went bust and the massive loss that Hertz made when they realized that their EV fleet was crippling them and off loaded them. Most of the EV sales in the UK are to business where they can get tax benefits but for the average punter it's not just the high prices but the massive depreciation as soon as the dealer plonks the keys in your hand.
Manufacturers have used pre-regiration for decades to cover their sales targets. The numbers don't match your story though. As of 21:30 today on AutoTrader, there are a mere 884 BEVs registered in 2024 with under 100 miles. Even upping that to under-500 miles, to account for demonstrators being shifted, the number is merely 1118. Compare that to the monthly sales figures from the SMMT: October saw 29,802 BEV sales. So even if every single one of those was pre-reg'd in October it's a mere 3.75% sat around waiting for a real-buyer. We can't really know how many have been pre-reg'd and already sold, although if your narrative was correct they wouldn't be being sold ...
Also, for comparison, there are 2,914 petrol and 820 diesel 2024 registered vehicles with under 500 miles, which equate to 4% and 9.15% of October's sales respectively. So there are proportionally MORE fire-powered cars sat around pre-registered / ex-demo / rejected-super-early than EV.
I've just looked on Autotrader on 29 Nov '25. and there are 21,767 new cars for sale (delivery milage only). Of those, 4,721 were. BEVs. The remainder were petrol (7,436), Diesel (2,697), ) Hybrid (6,907) and Bi Fuel (6). Thousands of these cars are discounted, of all fuel types, so it seems new cars in general are not selling, irrespective of fuel type.
Lots are fleet buyers, company car buyers and people using salary sacrifice to buy them as a massive tax dodge. Proper private buyers are much more limited. This is why sales are stalling.
A few weeks ago I was in a traffic jam on the M6 for five hours. A lot of ev's were parking up on the hard shoulder, I imagine to save their batteries. Imagine if all those cars in that traffic jam were ev's, it would be chaos.😂
Did you not actually know that EVs do not consume battery (except for any heating system) when idle, unlike a petrol car that does consume fuel and puts out pollution?
I read an article on Yahoo news that said 1 in 10 new cars sold now in Australia is an EV. Like that's only 10% of the market and apparently some kind of fantastic number after 14 years since EVs became mainstream. The EV BS from these kinda sources never ends.
@@John-c1n9t this really all started with Tesla, what’s their oldest model s probably 10 to 12 years old, look at the change since that time, starting with essentially 0 high speed charging, other than charging for long distance trips there is no downside to owning electric, less maintenance, less moving parts, people don’t steel your catalytic converter, timing belt doesn’t break, no exhaust to replace, no oil changes, if you can charge from home your car is always full you never have to go to a petrol station again,
I, like many others have no access to home charging, apart from the cost, new or used of electric vehicles, there's the lack of infrastructure and the extortionate cost of public charging, there's no initiative to buy an electric vehicle, I run a 13 year old diesel, my daily commute is 60 miles, an "affordable" electric vehicle would get me to work and maybe home again if I'm lucky, we have one working charge point in the town where I live, it's situated in the most expensive car park in the town, I work an average 15 hour shift, waiting for the charge point to become available, paying probably the same as I pay for a week driving to and from work in one charge plus parking fees, it's not yet a viable option for the average working class person, electric vehicles are aimed at the young, wealthy people or the young person who is happy to sign on the dotted line for years of repayments and high interest rates. As an older generation person I'm not qualified to drive one of these vehicles, I don't understand screens, I'm old school, physical buttons and proper dials, I wouldn't have a clue what to do with the screens, neither do many people of my age or older, the cars are too complicated, and for people like myself, I need a vehicle to get to work and back, I admire the technology and the advancement in electric vehicles, we've advanced a long way since the days of the Reva G Wiz, but the cars are too expensive, too complicated, the infrastructure is a long way off in some areas, I'm not saying all areas, and the cost of public charging is too expensive, as long as it remains this way, the government dictatorship aren't going to the public into electric vehicles. I have driven an electric Vauxhall Corsa and I was very impressed with just about everything about it, I didn't have it for long because I couldn't charge it, no home charging facilities because I live in the centre of town, the one charge point was taken continuously and to top it off, I found you can't pay with cash, only card and I don't have a card of any description as I've always paid for everything outright with cash, as I was told, I don't have a "credit footprint" because I pre pay my energy and phone bills, pay cash for council tax and cash for everything I purchase
Politicians don’t care about the environment or the people they serve. They all care about lining their own pockets. EV vehicles are expensive, the charging infrastructure is non existent. With a petrol car I can get across the country on one tank of fuel. If I need to fill up I can do so in 10 minutes. With an EV I’m going to have to pay more and wait hours before I can continue my journey.
Fleet purchases such as Mobility and Company/ Council buying is wildly distorting the figures. Private buyers do not want them and most of them use PCPs or lease for ICE cars. No sane person would buy an BEV upfront as the depreciation is HORRIFIC. Nobody in their right mind would buy a used EV as a battery replacement would make it a right off. Final point . If your next door has one ask him politely to park it a good distance away from your house.
Stop allowing gas prices to dictate ALL energy source prices. It’s an antiquated irrelevant system of pricing and it’s crippling everyone’s pockets except the fuel suppliers!
90% of cars sold in Norway in 2024 are EVs, and over half of vehicles on the road are EVs. They have the advantage of cheap electricity (Hydro). And in China, since last year, it's cheaper to buy an electric car than petrol cars (45% of electricity is provided by renewables in China).
Electricity itself isn't a fuel in the traditional sense. It's more like an energy carrier.... 1... It's produced from other energy sources, like coal, natural gas, nuclear power, or renewable sources like wind and solar. 2... These primary sources are the real fuels that are converted into electricity.
Indeed which is why our electricity is increasingly coming from renewable sources (58% in Dec 24) and rising with the last coal fired power station in the UK being decommissioned this year. And before anyone comes in with what happens when the wind doesn't blow, battery storage solutions are increasingly being adopted.
Too mcuh stick, not enough carrot. Over the past few years, Norway has introduced a package of inducements, tax changes and recharging policies to encourage EV sales. Result: EVs now account for over 95% of all new car sales.We've been driving a second-hand EV for 9 years and it saves us over £1200 per year in not buying petrol. In total, it has saved us over £11,000, which is more than the car cost us in the first place.
@@josepeixoto3384Norway is a country with population smaller than London. Everything is easier on small scale. Norway is funding their EV transition with money from selling vast amounts of oil and gas that other countries burn. It is a hypocrisy at state level.
Everything man makes breaks down. You failed to mention just a few things. How much did this EV cost you? How much is your insurance on your EV and your house? How much more do you spend on tires? How much did your charging station at home cost? IF you sold your EV how much could you get out of it now.? You cannot just compare gas costs and electric costs when comparing EV's and gas cars,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Project EV is crashing ... It was always been going to .... Its never been thought through .. initial cost, safety, repairs, insurance , massive and rapid depreciation and not enough electricity to run the cars if we did all get one .... Most people cant plug in at home if they wanted to .... All thats left to say us that the way our govt is behaving is we are all doomed .... So in reality its likely we wont be around to see the projected outcome of project EV
@@daydreamer8373 Have to disagree but if you want to continue believing what you say...bof course that's your choice ... The real Facts not the ones being pushed indicate electric cars are they are will never practically work as they stand and many of us can see why .... As it stands old fashioned hybrids could be a good transition model ( not the plug ones which are having to many problems whilst alternative cleaner vehicles are seriously developed .... Then there are the 'conspiracy theories ' of where this is all leading us .... 15 min cities 🤔
@@xxthegamerz0riginalxx920 It is already happening. People have their head in the sand about the growth of EV's. Tesla and Cina are filling the void while legacy auto dilly dally about what to to about it. For much of legacy auto. it is already too little too late.
Really? You do understand that Hydrogen has an efficiency of 35% and an EV nearly 90%? Also you have heard about the class action suit in California against Toyota for being miss sold their Hydrogen Fuel Cell car that they can't fuel with Hydrogen and even if they could its 5 times the price of petrol?
This is yet another technology backed by government in spite of being unsuitable for the majority of drivers. Thatcher did the same with lean burn engines in the 80's, it was the wrong technology because it caused an increase in emissions for shorter journeys, they being the majority. EV's weakness is the lack of charging infrastructure, inadequate battery technology and associated manufacturing pollution. A more practical technology might have been hydrogen, but we'll likely never know because of this exclusive commitment to electric vehicles.
Colin Walker, as has been mentioned somewhere else, is living in an alternate universe. EVs are too expensive, there are insufficient charging points and more current car is OK.
@@iceman4660 But they are getting more affordable all the time. EV prices are falling. Not going up, and that will increase as new battery tech and economies of scale kick in.
FYI there's more public charging stations than there are forecourts in the UK now, add on top of that that many people will rarely need to use them as they'll charge at home. I bought a second hand EV that was affordable, wanted one for ages and thought it would be years away but take a look on auto trader, you'd be surprised at what you can get
@@ivanrlynn For many people EVs are a far superior choice than a car run on oil. EVs tend to be quieter, roomier, cheaper to run, have less maintenance and be more convenient. There are plenty of people that an EV will not be ideal for, but for others EVs would be the best option.
@@gpsfinancial6988 On the other hand they require much more care on the end users behalf considering all the things that have to be considered, the energy usage has to be considered far more than most people are ready to adapt to especially in colder climates, give me a plaid or an iqonic n any day but I’d burn through the expensive tires in no time. To highlight my initial point, two things have to happen first to make them viable 1. Energy has to be less 5p a kilowatt across the board + the cars have to be fully warranted for 10 years
@@ivanrlynn For most charging an EV car is less hassle than a cell phone. No wasting time and money on inconvenient tune-ups or oil changes and no timewasting detours for expensive fuel - there is always a "full tank" when you wake up.
As a business owner that switched all company cars to ev (Tesla) the feedback has been good and staff are saving a lot in tax. These cars will go into the used market after the 3 years. Running costs are very low and staff can charge for free at the office. However lease and insurance prices across the board are very high. We have also had a lot of repairs. Most staff have an ice for personal use.
The KW price in public chargers is way too high. And there are too many people who don’t have off street parking. Also, the range for most EV cars is still not good enough. And there’s no standardization (payment methods, access) across the network.
Yes, DC public prices are indeed high, that's the fault of the electricity market being pegged to gas-prices. Pre-2022 crisis the price of DC public charging was often still cheaper-per-mile than diesel or petrol. The proportion of people without off-street parking is around 30 to 40% depending on which source you choose, it's a problem, but not one which can't be solved. The Department for Transport need to hurry up and publish the trial results for the schemes which have already run, and publish guidance for local authorities to set out pre-approved soutions which can be approved for installation (cable gulleys and on-street chargers seem to be the 2 most likely candidates, with lamp-post chargers where the lamp posts are positioned cerb-side). There is standardisation for most higher-power (>22kw) chargers now, they must all provide contactless payments since 2024-11-24, they've had a year to prepare, most have rolled it out if they didn't already provide it, and those which do not face fines. AC chargers also have to start accepting roaming-payments from at least one 3rd party, e.g. Electroverse or ZapPay, to make those easier without the added costs of contactless-payment units.
450 miles for less than 40£ so I don’t think that is expensive. Especially as I have no home charging. Payments is easy and standard in my experience not sure if you have been reading the news in the USA.
What I cannot get is the connection from charging stations to the EVs. Consider USB charging of computers, iphones etc......The standard connection is the USB port on the source of the power supply whilst at the other end (the appliance) there are a multitude of different plugs and sockets. So the source supple is a standard USB socket. Now when one looke at EVs, it is the other way round....The supply leads or cables are fixed and the at the car end they are all different.....Different EVs have different sockets, thus making charging station different with different cables. So if all charging stations has the same outlet sockets, then different EVs would have to come with their individua charging cables, which would all fit into any standard charging station. Nothing could be simpler and one wonders why we have gone a different route which really complicates getting your EV charged. All gas stations have standard pump heads.
I'm going to be getting an EV this month because my employer requires it and the BIK tax is low. I'm getting a car for the cost of a mobile phone contract. My wife's got a petrol car because as a private buyer she has no incentive to get an EV. It's very odd that in a cost of living crisis, with record government debt, the government is subsidising company vehicles.
@@vxnova1 The mandate is because these old clapped out companies have dragged their feet. Pollution has to stop or you will find there will other penalties coming your way.
Entirely depends on the price point in the second-hand market. £20k? Huge variety of options of 2 to 4 year old EVs. £10k? Still quite a few options of 4 to 6 year old EVs and lower-end early models like the LEAF and Zoe. £5k? Not a lot yet other than the earlier 10+ year old EVs with limited ranges compared to today's models.
@@Markcain268 Then you'll have to wait a while. It's in your interest for more new EVs to be made as fast as possible, and for those who CAN afford new-cars to stop buying ICE so that more EVs filter through to the used market sooner...
Car charging infrastructure is appalling in our area, the nearest is over 10 miles away and has 4 charging points and I only go in that direction every now and again. I have 4 garages I can use where I can fill up my diesel car within 5 miles of where I live. Within 10 miles, there are around 20 garages where I can fill up. Filling up takes around 5 minutes, recharging is possible only if you combine it with doing something else, like a weekly shop. It takes around 30 minutes to get 80% charge.
You UK muppets are crazy. Australians have driven around our land mass with EV's and even through the central deserts where the are NO GAS STATIONS at all (they charge at camp site using an industrial plug). If you want diesel you have to bring it with you as the camp sites will not sell it to you because it so expensive.
I hate filling up my diesel van. Such a expensive, smelly, waste of my life. Plugging in my EV at home, and charging overnight for 2p/mile. Yes please.
Think about this, EVs are driven by rotating machines powered by electricity. Electricity is produced by rotating machines which produce electricity. (solar excluded) Logically the more EVs there are the more and bigger the need for rotating machines to produce the electricity. Not only that, but there is a need for bigger and more wires to connect the machines and the batteries required to store the electricity. You don't get anything for free, especially electricity. There are over 40 million cars in the UK these days. What size or how many rotating machines (electrical generators) are required to drive all the cars on the roads or charge up all the car batteries every day? That is an interesting question don’t you think? EVs are just leeching off the Electrical Grid. If they substantially increase in number the Grid will be overloaded soon.
EV's actually play an important part in balancing a modern grid, making it more efficient, and with vehicle to grid technology could also play a big part in supporting it. Far from the leeching you imagine.
Ever heard of solar and wind power mate? You do get stuff for free, just not in this capitalist run society It's surprising to learn that even charging an EV using electric from fossil fuels burns less energy that it would take in a combustion engine vehicle
"Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit (3.45) ? This morning, I founded the " Tomato, Lettuce and Salad Cream Investigation Directorate" ..... and tomorrow, I shall announce the public inquiry into the workings of "The Rag, Flock, and Allied Fillings Act" of 1951. It will take 2 years. Colin Walker will be called upon some time next year to pontificate for up to 5 minutes maximum. That will be more than enough from HIM, thank you very much. Just as a matter of interest, how much did Channel 4 pay him ?
The heavy discounting has revealed that the depreciation of EVs from the the nominal book price is insanely high. You would be lucky to retain 20% after 3 years and that won't change until buyers of second hand cars gain confidence in the technology. Perhaps the government could focus some tax breaks and grants on that part of the market to encourage some buy-in.
Discounting doesn't lead to profitability. Demand does. If people don't want or buy, manufacturing will eventually collapse, discounts will disappear, they won't have any money to invest and 100s of thousands of people will be out of work. With no vehicles on the road, and people's mobility severely restricted, then Co2 levels will come down, which I guess is the whole purpose of net zero.
Shut all the coal,gas,and nuclear power stations,energy costs soar then try to force people to buy electric cars,net zero is the final nail for UK manufacturing !
the EV market is only going to grow so fast. Many people either can't afford a new EV, or don't want one. Govt can't force people to buy one. Cars are available for 1000 pounds with better range, and can get you around. this will not change.
You can still buy a second hand car. We are approaching price parity between EVs and ICE cars now, so if you can't afford a new EV you'll also not be able to afford a new ICE car. Most people buy their cars second hand or lease them these days.
If EV motoring was cheaper than petrol/diesel when public charging ( as it is in Europe) then sales would be stronger. Unfortunately, if you cannot charge at home or at work then it’s a tough sell, especially given the change in mindset that is required. Personally I love both our EVs but we are the lucky ones who can charge at home and benefit from 2 pence per mile motoring. One EV is a lease at very low rates and the second was bought used at the same cost as the petrol version. Insurance was not expensive and servicing is cheap. The media and the fossil fuel industry must take most of the blame ( or credit) for putting people off EVs and the government will find that hard to overcome.
sounds like the car industry dont wana take a cut of profit in cost of living so they are deflecting. they are making money but they wont more off the top
Makes me laugh that the two manufacturers moaning about lack of EV uptake to justify staff cuts are stellantis (going down the toilet anyway esp with wet belt recalls...) and Ford who have killed their most profitable cars for rebadged VW EVs that dont sell and also have a massive legal liability from wet belt engines. They are downplaying their issues and reasons for cutting staff to not alert shareholders IMO
The governments problem is that it is trying to get the public to adopt an inferior technology that is still evolving, and subject to major disadvantages, including being very expensive. Worse still, the rapid evolution process is fueling secondhard EV depreciation rates. It is said you can take a horse to water, but you cant force it to drink. The government is switching from carrot to stick approach, by taxing fossil fuel vehicles off the road, while starting to apply road tax to EVs. This Labour government is still learning the law of unintended consequences.
EV tech is certainly still in it's infancy. But has evolved enough to the point of being inevitable. Anyone auto manufacturer not investing in the EV future, are doomed.
@daydreamer8373 one knows that the technology has not evolved sufficiently when it can still be said the improvement is no better. That is to say EV technology has yet to exceed the functionality, or even match that of the existing fossil fuel technology. Its only advantage is its green credentials. Unfortunately, the battery technology being used may still prove to be a dead end as it is yet to address the issues of range, refueling time, and longevity. There is also the lack of infrastructure and raw materials. The rapid developments in EV technology is responsible for the large depreciation in the resale value of EVs. I am not denying that the move to green technology is essential, but it is still not certain it is this one. There is an ancient Chinese curse that explains the situation, it says: " May you live in interesting times".
@@nigeljohnson9820 Norway with around 94% of new car sales being EV are showing EV's can match and in many ways exceed the ICE car and indeed are a viable solution.. Battery tech is improving rapidly, with energy density and charging speeds hitting new highs. Infrastructure is far more advanced than most people realise, and again is growing rapidly. You may have a point with depreciation, as the tech is moving rapidly. EV's at this point are inevitable, and legacy auto are paying the price for not reacting to the coming storm. I will give you credit for at least understanding the importance of a cleaner future.
Don't subsidise car makers to sell more cars. Ford, Stellantis , VW and some others don't make cars in the UK. Thell them to go the governments where they make the cars.
I have a feeling that some ppl are watching my every single move and they are plotting against me. Tbis is really unconfordable position because I have done nothing to them.
Boris Johnson was a useless PM, he wasn't even any good as a politician and failed at being a minister in most departments. His best years were probably as a journalist and London Mayor. Net Zero has to go and the government has to stop interfering in markets. This bloke is completely wrong, the figures are totally distorted by the concessions to fleet owners to swap to electric fleets. Private buyers are already rejecting EVs and don't want these short term vehicles with poor retention of value as second hand markets show how few people want them. The guy is deluded. Boris Johnson pulled the date forward from 2035 to 2030, Sunak pushed it back to 2035 and Labour has pulled it forward again to 2030, which is 5 years faster than Europe. I have no plans to buy an EV that will depreciate almost all of its value in 7 years. Until marked improvements are made, an infrastructure much better than we currently have, there's no point buying a lemon. I'd sooner do without.
This is what happens when idealism trumps practicality. The concept of electric vehicles in of itself is a fine one but it's fatally flawed. Batteries aren't good enough, are expansive to make and necessitate 'rare' chemicals and metals; they are rare because there isn't very much of them or they are expensive to extract. It's not rocket science! The Research & Development is clear: Batteries have a limited life and are not easily recyclable. Batteries are heavy and expensive. Few electric cars have easily replaceable batteries so, once the battery comes to the end of its life, the majority of Electric Vehicles will be scrapped. You can witness this in the freefall values of 5 - 6+ year old EVs with poor battery life and the numbers of new EVs sitting unsold all over the world. The majority of people understand this. That's why they are only bought by better off people. Yet governments ignore these facts, gaslighting us, the people they purport to serve, that we must be stupid or environmentally irresponsible if we don't aspire to an EV. Even if I could afford to buy an EV, the recharging infrastructure in the UK and much of Europe cannot cope with the small number of EVs on the road today let alone significantly more in coming years. We have all heard stories about carefully planned routes of several hundred miles being stressful because charging points are broken, not working or there is a queue. An infrastructure report from 2024 stated that if we all ran electric vehicles and charged them at night, the electricity network in the UK would not be able to cope. Yet the government chooses to ignore it. Add to this that most people don't have private driveways and park either on the road or in car parks. Even if all these parking spaces were able to have recharging points, it would be too easy for them to be vandalised, disconnected or even hijacked. Yet this too is conveniently ignored. Be realistic and tell us the truth and perhaps, just perhaps we might listen. Lie to us and manipulate the truth to your own ends and you will fail because people won't be able to afford to travel to work and the cost of food will increase. Again, it's not rocket science.
The government will have to pony up to put 12 point electric charging “garages” alongside every existing petrol filling station. This is overkill, but it is a question of confidence. Also there needs to be a massive subsidy on new purchase electric vehicles.
Why should my tax money pay for someone else's new car when there's a massive crisis in the NHS? Let the market mechanism and a reduction in business profits through competition take a hit for once instead of taking more of my tax money.
They must NOT be put alongside existing petrol stations. Why do you think that public charge points are out in the open a long way from the pumps with electric fools exposed to the wind and rain and they are not allowed to pay at the kiosk ? Electric cars are at their most dangerous whilst being charged and the more powerful the charger, the greater the danger. Imagine one of them going into thermal run away under the canopy 20 feet from an LPG pump. It is bad enough that these idiots are allowed to park in the same car parks as us. Manufacturers will have to take the penalties on the chin, build what people want, divide the total cost between ALL of their cars including the electric ones and share it out over ALL of their cars including the electric ones. Generally, if you can afford a new car, you can afford an extra thousand or so and it will STILL be dramatically cheaper than buying an electric nightmare. In fact it would be worth car companies just point blank refuse to make electric cars and add the 15,000 to their prices. Look at the losses made by those companies that have gone down the electric route. An alternative is, you do what some of the Chinese companies have done. They have been manufacturing electric cars to get the subsidies All the cars are registered to get the subsidy but a proportion of the production is taken to fields where the batteries are removed taken back to the factories and fitted to new cars which are registered for the subsidies and then off to the field again and so on. Other things are taken off of or out of the cars ... seats, wipers, some glass, a few wheels complete with tyres, audio systems etc. to be fitted to new production. A sledge hammer is taken to what is left to make it look as if it is an insurance write off. The subsidies are worth considerably more than the bits that are left in the field.
It is too late for the Luton vehicle plant and Ford as they look to lay off 1000 workers in the UK and 3000 in Europe. Then NISSAN to lay off 9000. Not sure if they will lay off at their Sunderland plant as they make the Qashua, Juke and Leaf. But they are reducing the production of the Mirco and Note.
Electric cars are mainly sold to fleets were there is a tax incentive. The backlash is from the private consumer. Prices discounts are unsustainable. There isn't enough mining capability to produce enough electric cars. The infrastructure and technology isn't there yet. Colin Walker is deluded. EV are great but are only part.of the solution. It is not a one option fixes all. There is also the problem of rare earth minerals being mostly controlled by certain countries. Certain countries are heavily subsidising the car industries at the government level. JCB are doing some great work on Hydrogen and also alternative fuels are another great option. Let the transition be natural with government positively encouraging all alternatives. Not the heavy handed negative approach which is destroying industry and jobs.
How much of our electricity is generated by burning fossil fuels again? And the rest, 'renewable' energy, that's not polluting at all is it and neither is manufacturing lithium ion powered cars. Best of all, I hear the children who mine the rare earth minerals that go into them get treated like royalty. Remember folks, this is all about kindness, humanity and a bright future for us all.
As of 2024, UK electricity is generated by 41.7% renewables, 14.5% nuclear, 32.9% gas, 1% coal, and 9.7% other (other is mostly import from France, who are 90% nuclear). So, about 55% of electricity is generated in the UK is generated by generation that does not emit CO2 (renewable was 3% in 2009, it's now 41.3%). Gas is expected to decrease to ~15% by 2030.
Cobalt is used to refine oil. If you really care about the children mining cobalt buy an EV with a Lithium Iron Phosphate battery - zero cobalt or nickel. While you are at it stop using a cell phone (riddled with cobalt) or a laptop.
@@Diamonddavej Right so let’s take wind power. To build a single wind turbine it takes 120,000-150,000 KG of steel, 500,000 KG of concrete, 5,000 KG of copper, 3,000 kg of aluminium, 600 kg of neodymium, 20 kg of dysprosium and 12,000 kg of fibreglass and 200,000 kg of plastic. They contain 1000 litres of oil that needs disposing of and replacing every 2-3 years and the whole turbine is retired and needs replacing after 20 years. Don’t be conned into believing wind power is pollution free. Add up all the mining of minerals, transporting them, manufacturing and disposal and all the fossil fuels burned in the process, then factor in their inherent inefficiency and the birds they kill and you have an absolute unmitigated environmental disaster!
Complete bs these Company screaming while making bilion s and the CEO making millions personally. We need to tax those earning millions at least 70%. Earning gap between the higher staff and lower staff is getting out of control
People don't want EV's because they are too expensive, and there are not enough charging points etc., charging takes too long . If everyone moved to EV's the government will lose 23bn ( i think) in tax from petrol and diesel, so they will need to increase the tax on electricity which then affects everything we do
The alternative to taxing electricity (which would be absurd) is to tax by road usage, which like fuel-duty is proportional to milage and thus "fairer" for people who only do small local journeys and scales for the people who drive a lot. But for some reason the petrol-nutters all seem opposed to taxing proportional to usage...
This is a very poor analysis of the situation the 363,000 figure quoted is for cars produced not sold. The consumer will not be fooled into moving to an EV until the charging infrastructure is much more mature and operators are not fleecing consumers at prices as high as 80p per kw/h. If you take out EVs being put based by company lease schemes the number sold to normal members of the public is tiny. The government should nationalize the charging infrastructure and set a country wide affordable rate if the want any chance of meeting the targets for 2030
Had an EV for 2.5 years and I love it. Charge it weekly from my Solar panels. I agree the charging infrastructure needs to improve, but that will come in time as will better faster charging batteries. No one (except insanely rich people) buy new cars any more. They are all leased or bought second hand and have been for years.
How dumb is this conversation. The problem is not the product, the problem is the infrastructure. For an Energy Intelligence Unit this conversation is off the mark. Again.
The government needs to ask the people who use, and buy, cars not the people who make them where the problems lie. At the moment it appears Jackanory thinking is operating.
Colin Walker is in cloud cuckoo land. The only big buyers of EVs are leasing companies and company car operators. Private buyers will not tolerate the huge depreciation of new EVs . Who wants second hand 'old tech' which is what used EVs represent? And lets not forget the millions of flat and terraced house owners who cannot charge at home. Get real Colin.
Because they are expensive and dull! Not everyone needs a big electric SUV, but equally, some drivers aren't dead from the neck down, so they want something maybe more exciting than a Prius. Where's the fun gone, where has design gone 🤷♂️
I bet that guy you had on at the energy and climate unit, if you went to his house, there would still be a petrol car in his garage. And this zero emission is a total joke for cars. EV's have tail pipes too. At the open pit mines, there is an EV tailpipe, At the electric company that charges the EV's, there is a tailpipe, and when the EV battery dies, {And all batteries die}, There is a tailpipe ro recycle these batteries safely, using fossil fuels. So EV's are not zero free either because of their tail pipes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Most EVs charge at night, evening out the load, that is why I can charge my car for 7p per kwh which is a good deal for me meaning I can drive for 2p per mile, it is still profitable for the supplier. My supplier tells me although I cannot verify it that they can make more profit with my business and reduce costs for everyone (or perhaps being cynical make more profit for themselves).
@@eddewhurst7662 you might be able too at the moment but they will introduce a higher tariff for e.v charging by your smart meter. also they will ramp up that seperately to your house price per kw. also you missed the most important point which is lets say 5% of e.vs are on the road now if it was 100% the grid couldnt cope! so like i said it isnt going to happen its nonsense. also how do people who live in flats etc get home charging? they cant.please wake up to the green nonsense its not hard just need to think a bit more!
@@johndawson8806 This is a common myth. EV's will actually play an important part in balancing the grid, and new vehicle to grid technology will also be able to support the grid. ICE cars are not the only thing changing. The way we think about energy also. the way we generate, store and use said energy is changing too.
@@daydreamer8373 sorry that is utter nonsesnse all this green nonsense is not even viable unless huge subsidies are given which inflates everyones energy bills. companies cant sell evs as they are not wanted. the whole ev energy climate nonsense is a scam which corporations are making huge profits for something that is just not fit for purpose.
Part of the issue with EVs is that they only really make sense if you can charge them at home which largely benefits the older generation who could more easily put a mortgage down for a home and have somewhere to install an EV charger. It's not a luxury that many younger people have who may be living with parents to save up or be forced to rent. Hate to say but I'll be sticking with my old diesel Golf for now as it was relatively cheap to pick up and is cheap to run.
Too late. They fucked it, now they are terrified that they are exposing themselves for being incompetent! People will never adopt EVs for all driving, they are not suitable.
According to a climate weather person onUA-cam, the temperatures in the Northern hemisphere is going to get colder due to the Gulf Stream. EV are not very good if this happens as the cold infiltrates the battery and the heating in the cars takes a lot of electricity and pushes the mileage down. In an ICE car, the fuel works the heater in the car with no problem.
If that happens we a re screwed, EVs will be the least of our problems, but EVs are very reliable in cold weather and the new Chinese batteries are also great in cold weather.
Nonsense. Fossil fuel cars are getting rationed because they get fined on the percentage of EV sales. It’s being manipulated by the dealership because they get fined for not selling the right percentage of EV. To mandate and fine the car companies is stupid and will make them bankrupt.
Rolling out electric cars is pie in the sky. I am quite interested in owning one, but, and here's the thing, I live in rural area with street parking away from my property. The nearest chargers are 12 miles away, and they are in a supermarket car park and more often than not are not working. It is simply not practical for me and, I am sure, I am not alone in this. Bullying people into an impractical solution for an issue that has not been thought through properly was only ever going to be a disaster. The Government needs to 'get real' and build the infrastructure first.
The infrastructure is growing rapidly and will grow hand in hand with EV adoption. There is all sorts of tech being developed to enable the electric future.
I've been harping on about the infrastructure for ages and I get slated for it, I'm glad to see someone else has noticed this too, where I live there are 12 charge points in the town and outlying area, 10 of which aren't connected to the grid which, a local MP complained about to the appropriate government body, they're still not up and running, the others are in the centre of town in the most expensive car park where you're expected to pay for parking as well as charging, only one charger is working, what does that say about the infrastructure?
@@andrewgage6942 There will always be anecdotal stories about peoples experiences with charging. You say there are 12 charge points and some in the town centre. Ok not the best by the sound of it. But 2 years ago there was probably zero.
I remember when I first had My EV. Charging points basically didn't exist by me. I charged from home so it didn't matter. There are now numerous chargers I could go to, including two at work. For most people there is more than enough charging, and it will only increase.
50% of people do not have home charging and public charging is as expensive if not more so than fueling up an ICE car.
There are many solutions to charging because electricity is available everywhere. It is more a matter of willingness to find those solutions.
The consumers didn’t ask for electric cars. Why are they forcing them down our throats
Its because china wants you to.
NGOs, Media and the "Think Tanks" are all under chinese payroll.
You are a fool if you think Kier Stalin doesn't make money from this.
Who owns 86% of worlds mines, mining raw material for battery manufacturing ? China
Who own the battery tech ? China
Who has the manufacturing tech ? China
Think about it. The mandate policies stem directly from Maoist ideology not capitalist or free market ideology.
If the time is right for EVs then people would line up to buy them instead of searching the used car market.
Without any investment and almost zero ground support for EVs why would the free market make the transition ?
So you force people into it. Like you force people into labour camps in china.
Duh! We have to cut green house gas emissions. Countries have agreed to meet targets. The planet has too much heat caused hugely by people driving everywhere, often unnecessarily as folk be getting fat for a reason
@@DG-ie5ip Over the last few years and especially this last year I've come to realise the UK administration through the years is nothing short of criminal.
EV's at this point are inevitable. People hate change, if we don't embrace whats coming. we fall behind. Legacy auto are in a mess. Took too long to react the the changing vehicle landscape, and are now struggling to compete with the Likes of Tesla and the growing threat of Chinese made EV's.
The journalists don’t understand numbers so they promote stupid ideas. Politicians don’t understand the numbers either but spending other people’s money is easy.
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Sales are going up because dealers are pre registering them to avoid financial penalties
If you think that's any different to how manufacturers sell fire-powered cars then I've got a bridge to sell you...
No, sales figures INCLUDE hybrids/phev, which are going up.
@@momurda6
Reality
Battery electric vehicles (BEVs) were the only powertrain to record growth, with a raft of new models driving the strongest growth this year, up 24.5% to reach a 20.7% share of the market. UK new car buyers now have more than 125 different BEV models to choose from - an uplift of 38% over the last 10 months.
This guy is as mad as the government if he thinks we can swop all our petrol and diesel vehicles to electric. Even the Tories had second thoughts by putting the date for the sale of new petrol cars back from 2030 to 2035 but Labour restored the date to 2030 without consulting anyone which was madness. Now however they are saying they are consulting the car industry but I still don't think they have the intelligence or common sense to appreciate just how impractical the switch to electric vehicles truly is. As Ford said, the demand for electric vehicles is not there! People don't want them, they can't afford them, they don't find them practical and they won't be able to charge them. They are not even greener if you are a low mileage user and the extra weight of the batteries wears out the roads and causes far more injuries in crashes to pedestrians and cyclists as well as other road users. I also understand that insurance is also a great deal more expensive. Electric cars are only going to be a niche market for the affluent, most of whom will be 2+ car households where the other vehicles they own are petrol or diesel!!!
If you need a cheap car to get to work then EVs are too expensive and not feasible to charge up if you live in a flat or a terraced house. Also, in many parts of the country there are few alternatives to driving as buses are unreliable, train fares are expensive and many people see cycling as too dangerous. The politicians are hopelessly out of touch on this one.
If would help if they were affordable. Also my diesel vauxhall van does 750 miles on a tank full and takes 5 mins to fill up.
But how far do you ever actually have to drive it, and how far can you actually go between breaks...
@DG-ie5ip for now, no one "has" to change, although lukewarm government policy aside, you should change if you have any concerns for the future sustainability of the species.
@@DevAnubis My petrol car does between 500 & 550 miles and regularly drive a round trip of 400 miles with no chance of charging at my mid point. (These journeys account for 80% of my annual mileage.) The nearest chargers are all between 5 & 10 miles away with a max stay of two hours. When i return home I have more than enough fuel for my driving that week and when I pass a filling station I top up. If i didn't have my long journeys I still wouldn't want a EV but If i had a drive and the prices were right I would
@@DevAnubis cars contribute only with 10% of the carbon emissions worldwide hardly a species saver converting to EVs. And the UK's emissions are just 1% of the total so if your whole island sinks in the ocean tomorrow there will be zero impact on the climate. So no you are not saving the planet you are just driving too expensive wheecle that puts strain on the electricity grid that is still 57% powered by coal causing more coal burning to plug the gap.
@@DevAnubis If a workman turned up at my parents house and asked to plug his van in while he is there my father would tell him exactly where to stick his cable. Why should he?
And, if a tradesman only works within the range of his van (full of tools) he will not get much business. ULEZ f'kd them up enough.
As someone who a five grand car seems like a stretch dream buying any sort of EV it’s never going to happen
And what was that £5k car worth when it was factory-new?
How old was it when you bought it?
Whilst the options for £5k EVs today are slim and represent earlier lower-range EVs, its merely a matter of time before the newer generation of EVs launched from 2021-ish onwards reaches the lower end of the second-hand market.
@@DevAnubis Battery degradation will ensure that EV's never reach the lower end of the second-hand market in value, most will be economically unviable scrap before their 15th anniversary..
@@oldmanonamotorbikeinbucks7604 judging by the 10+ year old Teslas going strong, it's quite likely they'll live longer than most modern combustion engines do in terms of remaining economical to operate.
Tesla batteries last 400 000 miles and million mile batteries are coming. And the motor etc needs far far less maintenance than a petrol car.
Plenty of £5k EVs on Autotrader
What crisis ?
I can drive from the north of England to well south of Arras on a tank of diesel, and after a 15 minute top up , I can be on my way south . 20 years old Peugeot 306 and no computer .
And if you drive that far without reasonable breaks you're a danger to yourself and others on the road, as well as your own health.
@@DevAnubis🤦🏼♀️
cheap and easy for You i agree, not for the planet and people breathing your toxic exhaust. Climate change and cancer is not cheap for us.
@@DevAnubis Did I say I didn’t stop for a break ? You miss the point . How heavy are modern cars, electric or petrol and diesel ? Just look at the shear size of modern cars. It’s absurd . The whole issue needs a fresh look.
@californiadreamin8423 If you stop for a reasonable break, you can charge whilst you do so. Many EVs today can add 200 miles in 10 minutes of charge. That's nearly 3 hours of solid driving, enough for anyone's bladder to be crying out.
And yes, vehicle size is absolutely a problem. Smaller EVs go further for the same energy, so can go the same distance with a smaller battery, and vice versa.
Public charging is too expensive and the charging time and range it’s there yet, people need to charge at home, if you haven’t a drive the councils need to be installing cable gully’s .
Vauxhall Luton produces an electric Van that last's only 70 miles or 50 miles with the heating turned on and takes an hour to charge that is the problem.
I so agree
Vauxhall Vivaro Electric - The 50kWh unit has a range of up to 143 miles while the 75kWh battery delivers a range of up to 205 miles.
Vauxhall Combo Electric - The official WLTP range is 205 miles, which is an improvement over the 171 miles it offered previously.
Are you saying that it is reasonable for the tradesman that I employ to travel 30 miles to get to me, and then not have a lunch? The biggest fleet of vans I see are parcel delivery vans and of course you are going to tell me that they are special cases that do not count because they stop regularly meaning the regen braking is charging these.
@@sarahandadrianwicks870 there are a lot of rivian delivery trucks here in the us that are delivering packages for Amazon every day, Seems to work fine for them,
@@Diamonddavej Take off a third because range figures are unattainable. Then advice from "experts" is to charge to only 80% and charge again when the battery reaches 20%. Instead of 205 miles you end up with about 80 miles.
I worked for a renewables energy company. Foreign owned. It doesn’t matter how many wind farms or solar farms we build, we can’t get them connected to the grid. National grid is slow. A few weeks ago we had no wind and some gas stations had to be switched on to fill the gap. In addition, even if we have wind, we can’t store the energy created. Once you’re all on an EV you’ll find that energy is rationed and really expensive. I’m too old to care and driving around in an old v8 M5. All of the businesses that build the wind farms are foreign owned with share holders and private investors, they want a return on their investment, you will not get cheaper energy bills either. It’s a massive con for the public.
give me one for free if it's so important
Insurance will make you regret getting one, even for free.
Amazing how badly understood the consumer is. EV demand is bad for a number for practical and financial reasons, relative to ICE.
4 cars in 5 sold in 2024 were not electric 6:51
Parity on second hand value he says between petol/diesel cars and electric cars. Means that electric car owners have taken a huge hit when new car prices are 15-20k more than petroldiesel cars.
Indeed, that was an amazing own goal he just did right there.
what a clown. If the manufactures are heavily discounting their cars, its because they are not selling.
The fact that slowing car sales (all cars, not just EVs), have been used to beat down the electric vehicle business, has shown me there's a strong political motivation behind it. Tesla's revenue goes up every year. BYD's revenue goes up every year. The legacy companies that have one foot in and one foot out of the EV camp are inefficient and dying. Just like hybrids are inefficient and dying. Wasting resources on 2 engines doesn't work. And before any of this chat, we saw the likes of Honda, Ford, Nissan all making cuts in the UK. Yet the MSM refuses to jump on Brexit the way it seizes on EVs. NO company is investing billions in the UK with a background of ongoing EU tariff uncertainty.
Colin Walker must be living on another planet. Many of the so called EV sales are pre registered cars pushed by manufacturers to try and meet the ZEV mandate. Just look at Autotrader and see how many cars are listed with just 10 or 50 miles on them at massively disscounted prices and they are still not selling. Look what's happening in the market where a lease company ONTO that only dealt with EV's went bust and the massive loss that Hertz made when they realized that their EV fleet was crippling them and off loaded them. Most of the EV sales in the UK are to business where they can get tax benefits but for the average punter it's not just the high prices but the massive depreciation as soon as the dealer plonks the keys in your hand.
Manufacturers have used pre-regiration for decades to cover their sales targets.
The numbers don't match your story though.
As of 21:30 today on AutoTrader, there are a mere 884 BEVs registered in 2024 with under 100 miles.
Even upping that to under-500 miles, to account for demonstrators being shifted, the number is merely 1118.
Compare that to the monthly sales figures from the SMMT: October saw 29,802 BEV sales. So even if every single one of those was pre-reg'd in October it's a mere 3.75% sat around waiting for a real-buyer.
We can't really know how many have been pre-reg'd and already sold, although if your narrative was correct they wouldn't be being sold ...
Also, for comparison, there are 2,914 petrol and 820 diesel 2024 registered vehicles with under 500 miles, which equate to 4% and 9.15% of October's sales respectively.
So there are proportionally MORE fire-powered cars sat around pre-registered / ex-demo / rejected-super-early than EV.
I've just looked on Autotrader on 29 Nov '25. and there are 21,767 new cars for sale (delivery milage only). Of those, 4,721 were. BEVs. The remainder were petrol (7,436), Diesel (2,697), ) Hybrid (6,907) and Bi Fuel (6). Thousands of these cars are discounted, of all fuel types, so it seems new cars in general are not selling, irrespective of fuel type.
Well said
Lots are fleet buyers, company car buyers and people using salary sacrifice to buy them as a massive tax dodge. Proper private buyers are much more limited. This is why sales are stalling.
Politicians should stop interfering in car engineering.
A few weeks ago I was in a traffic jam on the M6 for five hours. A lot of ev's were parking up on the hard shoulder, I imagine to save their batteries. Imagine if all those cars in that traffic jam were ev's, it would be chaos.😂
Did you not actually know that EVs do not consume battery (except for any heating system) when idle, unlike a petrol car that does consume fuel and puts out pollution?
I read an article on Yahoo news that said 1 in 10 new cars sold now in Australia is an EV. Like that's only 10% of the market and apparently some kind of fantastic number after 14 years since EVs became mainstream. The EV BS from these kinda sources never ends.
Build the infrustructure to support it!
Yup charging network still has a ways to go,
It is happening. Charging infrastructure is far more numerous than people realise.
No thanks end this utter madness!
@@John-c1n9t This is inevitable. Legacy auto have been digging their own grave, ignoring the shift to electric.
@@John-c1n9t this really all started with Tesla, what’s their oldest model s probably 10 to 12 years old, look at the change since that time, starting with essentially 0 high speed charging, other than charging for long distance trips there is no downside to owning electric, less maintenance, less moving parts, people don’t steel your catalytic converter, timing belt doesn’t break, no exhaust to replace, no oil changes, if you can charge from home your car is always full you never have to go to a petrol station again,
I, like many others have no access to home charging, apart from the cost, new or used of electric vehicles, there's the lack of infrastructure and the extortionate cost of public charging, there's no initiative to buy an electric vehicle, I run a 13 year old diesel, my daily commute is 60 miles, an "affordable" electric vehicle would get me to work and maybe home again if I'm lucky, we have one working charge point in the town where I live, it's situated in the most expensive car park in the town, I work an average 15 hour shift, waiting for the charge point to become available, paying probably the same as I pay for a week driving to and from work in one charge plus parking fees, it's not yet a viable option for the average working class person, electric vehicles are aimed at the young, wealthy people or the young person who is happy to sign on the dotted line for years of repayments and high interest rates. As an older generation person I'm not qualified to drive one of these vehicles, I don't understand screens, I'm old school, physical buttons and proper dials, I wouldn't have a clue what to do with the screens, neither do many people of my age or older, the cars are too complicated, and for people like myself, I need a vehicle to get to work and back, I admire the technology and the advancement in electric vehicles, we've advanced a long way since the days of the Reva G Wiz, but the cars are too expensive, too complicated, the infrastructure is a long way off in some areas, I'm not saying all areas, and the cost of public charging is too expensive, as long as it remains this way, the government dictatorship aren't going to the public into electric vehicles.
I have driven an electric Vauxhall Corsa and I was very impressed with just about everything about it, I didn't have it for long because I couldn't charge it, no home charging facilities because I live in the centre of town, the one charge point was taken continuously and to top it off, I found you can't pay with cash, only card and I don't have a card of any description as I've always paid for everything outright with cash, as I was told, I don't have a "credit footprint" because I pre pay my energy and phone bills, pay cash for council tax and cash for everything I purchase
Politicians don’t care about the environment or the people they serve. They all care about lining their own pockets. EV vehicles are expensive, the charging infrastructure is non existent. With a petrol car I can get across the country on one tank of fuel. If I need to fill up I can do so in 10 minutes. With an EV I’m going to have to pay more and wait hours before I can continue my journey.
Fleet purchases such as Mobility and Company/ Council buying is wildly distorting the figures. Private buyers do not want them and most of them use PCPs or lease for ICE cars. No sane person would buy an BEV upfront as the depreciation is HORRIFIC. Nobody in their right mind would buy a used EV as a battery replacement would make it a right off.
Final point . If your next door has one ask him politely to park it a good distance away from your house.
Stop allowing gas prices to dictate ALL energy source prices. It’s an antiquated irrelevant system of pricing and it’s crippling everyone’s pockets except the fuel suppliers!
YES YES someone with intelligence.
when "never had a Job" Ed finally destroys our energy supply where is all the electricity going to come from?
Why talk utter nonsense oh I know you are Russian
The rest of the world are certainly looking at what we're doing and laughing. They will not emulate what we are doing, they've got more sense !
90% of cars sold in Norway in 2024 are EVs, and over half of vehicles on the road are EVs. They have the advantage of cheap electricity (Hydro). And in China, since last year, it's cheaper to buy an electric car than petrol cars (45% of electricity is provided by renewables in China).
Yes they are laughing at old western countries, all failing because the west is going down the drain not able to adapt.
I've got a couple of electric cars. They are made by Scalextric.
Best models!
Electricity itself isn't a fuel in the traditional sense.
It's more like an energy carrier....
1... It's produced from other energy sources, like coal, natural gas, nuclear power, or renewable sources like wind and solar.
2... These primary sources are the real fuels that are converted into electricity.
Never
Indeed which is why our electricity is increasingly coming from renewable sources (58% in Dec 24) and rising with the last coal fired power station in the UK being decommissioned this year. And before anyone comes in with what happens when the wind doesn't blow, battery storage solutions are increasingly being adopted.
Too mcuh stick, not enough carrot. Over the past few years, Norway has introduced a package of inducements, tax changes and recharging policies to encourage EV sales. Result: EVs now account for over 95% of all new car sales.We've been driving a second-hand EV for 9 years and it saves us over £1200 per year in not buying petrol. In total, it has saved us over £11,000, which is more than the car cost us in the first place.
No Repairs and free kwh? no such animal, but WHO pays for them kwh?
@@josepeixoto3384Norway is a country with population smaller than London. Everything is easier on small scale.
Norway is funding their EV transition with money from selling vast amounts of oil and gas that other countries burn. It is a hypocrisy at state level.
Everything man makes breaks down. You failed to mention just a few things. How much did this EV cost you? How much is your insurance on your EV and your house? How much more do you spend on tires? How much did your charging station at home cost? IF you sold your EV how much could you get out of it now.? You cannot just compare gas costs and electric costs when comparing EV's and gas cars,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Project EV is crashing ...
It was always been going to .... Its never been thought through .. initial cost, safety, repairs, insurance , massive and rapid depreciation and not enough electricity to run the cars if we did all get one .... Most people cant plug in at home if they wanted to .... All thats left to say us that the way our govt is behaving is we are all doomed .... So in reality its likely we wont be around to see the projected outcome of project EV
Yet EV sales continue to grow. The best selling car in the world last year was the Tesla Model Y. EV's at this point are inevitable.
@@daydreamer8373 Have to disagree but if you want to continue believing what you say...bof course that's your choice ... The real Facts not the ones being pushed indicate electric cars are they are will never practically work as they stand and many of us can see why .... As it stands old fashioned hybrids could be a good transition model ( not the plug ones which are having to many problems whilst alternative cleaner vehicles are seriously developed .... Then there are the 'conspiracy theories ' of where this is all leading us .... 15 min cities 🤔
@@xxthegamerz0riginalxx920 It is already happening. People have their head in the sand about the growth of EV's. Tesla and Cina are filling the void while legacy auto dilly dally about what to to about it. For much of legacy auto. it is already too little too late.
Electric cars are great but battery packs aren't, hydrogen fuel cells would be better
Hydrogen makes no sense and will never be a thing in cars.
Really? You do understand that Hydrogen has an efficiency of 35% and an EV nearly 90%? Also you have heard about the class action suit in California against Toyota for being miss sold their Hydrogen Fuel Cell car that they can't fuel with Hydrogen and even if they could its 5 times the price of petrol?
Hydrogen will never be a thing in cars.
They cant even electrify train lines.
The trains in the us have been diesel electric for a long time now,
@@vxnova1 Diesel, that is bad! There were plans to electrify line. Like the GWR London to Wales. That never happened.
@ not really, it’s a modular hybrid diesel setup running electric motors and is very efficient,
This is yet another technology backed by government in spite of being unsuitable for the majority of drivers. Thatcher did the same with lean burn engines in the 80's, it was the wrong technology because it caused an increase in emissions for shorter journeys, they being the majority. EV's weakness is the lack of charging infrastructure, inadequate battery technology and associated manufacturing pollution. A more practical technology might have been hydrogen, but we'll likely never know because of this exclusive commitment to electric vehicles.
The problem with hydrogen is safe storage, that's not been solved yet. Hopefully it can be one day.
Colin Walker, as has been mentioned somewhere else, is living in an alternate universe. EVs are too expensive, there are insufficient charging points and more current car is OK.
EV's are getting cheaper, The charging infrastructure is growing rapidly, and is far more numerous than people realise.
@daydreamer8373 they may be cheaper but that doesn't mean they are affordable.
@@iceman4660 But they are getting more affordable all the time. EV prices are falling. Not going up, and that will increase as new battery tech and economies of scale kick in.
FYI there's more public charging stations than there are forecourts in the UK now, add on top of that that many people will rarely need to use them as they'll charge at home.
I bought a second hand EV that was affordable, wanted one for ages and thought it would be years away but take a look on auto trader, you'd be surprised at what you can get
@@iceman4660 Do you buy new cars?
They are a bit simple.
They are still just an oversized toy, it’s gonna be a 100 year transition and I can only see them filling 50% of the market
A toy that many people prefer to an old-fashioned oil burning car.
@ I get it but mean toy as in not a seriously viable utility
@@ivanrlynn For many people EVs are a far superior choice than a car run on oil. EVs tend to be quieter, roomier, cheaper to run, have less maintenance and be more convenient. There are plenty of people that an EV will not be ideal for, but for others EVs would be the best option.
@@gpsfinancial6988 On the other hand they require much more care on the end users behalf considering all the things that have to be considered, the energy usage has to be considered far more than most people are ready to adapt to especially in colder climates, give me a plaid or an iqonic n any day but I’d burn through the expensive tires in no time. To highlight my initial point, two things have to happen first to make them viable 1. Energy has to be less 5p a kilowatt across the board + the cars have to be fully warranted for 10 years
@@ivanrlynn For most charging an EV car is less hassle than a cell phone. No wasting time and money on inconvenient tune-ups or oil changes and no timewasting detours for expensive fuel - there is always a "full tank" when you wake up.
As a business owner that switched all company cars to ev (Tesla) the feedback has been good and staff are saving a lot in tax. These cars will go into the used market after the 3 years.
Running costs are very low and staff can charge for free at the office. However lease and insurance prices across the board are very high. We have also had a lot of repairs. Most staff have an ice for personal use.
The KW price in public chargers is way too high. And there are too many people who don’t have off street parking. Also, the range for most EV cars is still not good enough. And there’s no standardization (payment methods, access) across the network.
Yes, DC public prices are indeed high, that's the fault of the electricity market being pegged to gas-prices. Pre-2022 crisis the price of DC public charging was often still cheaper-per-mile than diesel or petrol.
The proportion of people without off-street parking is around 30 to 40% depending on which source you choose, it's a problem, but not one which can't be solved. The Department for Transport need to hurry up and publish the trial results for the schemes which have already run, and publish guidance for local authorities to set out pre-approved soutions which can be approved for installation (cable gulleys and on-street chargers seem to be the 2 most likely candidates, with lamp-post chargers where the lamp posts are positioned cerb-side).
There is standardisation for most higher-power (>22kw) chargers now, they must all provide contactless payments since 2024-11-24, they've had a year to prepare, most have rolled it out if they didn't already provide it, and those which do not face fines. AC chargers also have to start accepting roaming-payments from at least one 3rd party, e.g. Electroverse or ZapPay, to make those easier without the added costs of contactless-payment units.
450 miles for less than 40£ so I don’t think that is expensive. Especially as I have no home charging. Payments is easy and standard in my experience not sure if you have been reading the news in the USA.
@@Popdog76 I’ve owned two EVs.
What I cannot get is the connection from charging stations to the EVs.
Consider USB charging of computers, iphones etc......The standard connection is the USB port on the source of the power supply whilst at the other end (the appliance) there are a multitude of different plugs and sockets.
So the source supple is a standard USB socket.
Now when one looke at EVs, it is the other way round....The supply leads or cables are fixed and the at the car end they are all different.....Different EVs have different sockets, thus making charging station different with different cables.
So if all charging stations has the same outlet sockets, then different EVs would have to come with their individua charging cables, which would all fit into any standard charging station.
Nothing could be simpler and one wonders why we have gone a different route which really complicates getting your EV charged.
All gas stations have standard pump heads.
Its not about saving the planet its about saving their profit margins.
Yep. Saving the profit margins of the O&G companies and associated industries.
I'm going to be getting an EV this month because my employer requires it and the BIK tax is low. I'm getting a car for the cost of a mobile phone contract. My wife's got a petrol car because as a private buyer she has no incentive to get an EV. It's very odd that in a cost of living crisis, with record government debt, the government is subsidising company vehicles.
EV initiatives are the most stupid government mandate projects of all time.
Facts
The mandate is stupid, Ev are just a far better simpler car than ice with less maintenance and cheaper to run, the adoption will happen anyway,
@@vxnova1 if there continues to make ice car it will always dominate
@@realericsmith I’d much rather have an incentive than a punishment for other vehicles,
@@vxnova1 The mandate is because these old clapped out companies have dragged their feet. Pollution has to stop or you will find there will other penalties coming your way.
The rest of the world actually feels sorry for the UK, mister.
Hold on I don't own a new car, actually never have. People who drive second hand are years and years off considering the transfer
Entirely depends on the price point in the second-hand market.
£20k? Huge variety of options of 2 to 4 year old EVs.
£10k? Still quite a few options of 4 to 6 year old EVs and lower-end early models like the LEAF and Zoe.
£5k? Not a lot yet other than the earlier 10+ year old EVs with limited ranges compared to today's models.
Both my EVs have been second hand.
Let others pay the depreciation.
@@DevAnubis£2k is my limit for a car.
@@Markcain268 Then you'll have to wait a while.
It's in your interest for more new EVs to be made as fast as possible, and for those who CAN afford new-cars to stop buying ICE so that more EVs filter through to the used market sooner...
Car charging infrastructure is appalling in our area, the nearest is over 10 miles away and has 4 charging points and I only go in that direction every now and again. I have 4 garages I can use where I can fill up my diesel car within 5 miles of where I live. Within 10 miles, there are around 20 garages where I can fill up.
Filling up takes around 5 minutes, recharging is possible only if you combine it with doing something else, like a weekly shop. It takes around 30 minutes to get 80% charge.
You UK muppets are crazy. Australians have driven around our land mass with EV's and even through the central deserts where the are NO GAS STATIONS at all (they charge at camp site using an industrial plug). If you want diesel you have to bring it with you as the camp sites will not sell it to you because it so expensive.
I hate filling up my diesel van. Such a expensive, smelly, waste of my life.
Plugging in my EV at home, and charging overnight for 2p/mile. Yes please.
Think about this, EVs are driven by rotating machines powered by electricity.
Electricity is produced by rotating machines which produce electricity. (solar excluded)
Logically the more EVs there are the more and bigger the need for rotating machines to produce the electricity.
Not only that, but there is a need for bigger and more wires to connect the machines and the batteries required to store the electricity.
You don't get anything for free, especially electricity.
There are over 40 million cars in the UK these days.
What size or how many rotating machines (electrical generators) are required to drive all the cars on the roads or charge up all the car batteries every day?
That is an interesting question don’t you think?
EVs are just leeching off the Electrical Grid.
If they substantially increase in number the Grid will be overloaded soon.
EV's actually play an important part in balancing a modern grid, making it more efficient, and with vehicle to grid technology could also play a big part in supporting it. Far from the leeching you imagine.
@@daydreamer8373
Perhaps, but could you answer the question?
Ever heard of solar and wind power mate? You do get stuff for free, just not in this capitalist run society
It's surprising to learn that even charging an EV using electric from fossil fuels burns less energy that it would take in a combustion engine vehicle
@@maxthemagition Perhaps you could pose it better since you have failed to express yourself properly.
@@paulc6766 what do you not understand?
"Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit (3.45) ?
This morning, I founded the " Tomato, Lettuce and Salad Cream Investigation Directorate" ..... and tomorrow, I shall announce the public inquiry into the workings of "The Rag, Flock, and Allied Fillings Act" of 1951. It will take 2 years. Colin Walker will be called upon some time next year to pontificate for up to 5 minutes maximum. That will be more than enough from HIM, thank you very much.
Just as a matter of interest, how much did Channel 4 pay him ?
under tories - gas bill went to the moon ,
under Labour -Left the solar system ❄🥶
Gas bills have shot up due to the war in Ukraine.
I will not buy an EV and no clueless politician will force me to
how old are you?
@@clive373tut 🙄
Exactly. I love my carbon footprint.
The heavy discounting has revealed that the depreciation of EVs from the the nominal book price is insanely high. You would be lucky to retain 20% after 3 years and that won't change until buyers of second hand cars gain confidence in the technology. Perhaps the government could focus some tax breaks and grants on that part of the market to encourage some buy-in.
Most second hand 3 year old EVs are about 50% of their sale price, and nearly on par with the depreciation rates of ICE cars.
Forgot to mention the fire hazard of current EV batteries
More misinformation: There are 5000 ICE car fire per 100000 cars. Batteries only 25 per and most of them are historic.
Discounting doesn't lead to profitability. Demand does. If people don't want or buy, manufacturing will eventually collapse, discounts will disappear, they won't have any money to invest and 100s of thousands of people will be out of work. With no vehicles on the road, and people's mobility severely restricted, then Co2 levels will come down, which I guess is the whole purpose of net zero.
OK for those that can afford them, and live in areas where charging is easy!
Mr Walker is talking a load of nonsense!
Shut all the coal,gas,and nuclear power stations,energy costs soar then try to force people to buy electric cars,net zero is the final nail for UK manufacturing !
Price parity between electric and petrol? Have a word...
the EV market is only going to grow so fast. Many people either can't afford a new EV, or don't want one. Govt can't force people to buy one. Cars are available for 1000 pounds with better range, and can get you around. this will not change.
Well do that then.
You can still buy a second hand car. We are approaching price parity between EVs and ICE cars now, so if you can't afford a new EV you'll also not be able to afford a new ICE car. Most people buy their cars second hand or lease them these days.
If EV motoring was cheaper than petrol/diesel when public charging ( as it is in Europe) then sales would be stronger. Unfortunately, if you cannot charge at home or at work then it’s a tough sell, especially given the change in mindset that is required.
Personally I love both our EVs but we are the lucky ones who can charge at home and benefit from 2 pence per mile motoring. One EV is a lease at very low rates and the second was bought used at the same cost as the petrol version. Insurance was not expensive and servicing is cheap.
The media and the fossil fuel industry must take most of the blame ( or credit) for putting people off EVs and the government will find that hard to overcome.
sounds like the car industry dont wana take a cut of profit in cost of living so they are deflecting. they are making money but they wont more off the top
Makes me laugh that the two manufacturers moaning about lack of EV uptake to justify staff cuts are stellantis (going down the toilet anyway esp with wet belt recalls...) and Ford who have killed their most profitable cars for rebadged VW EVs that dont sell and also have a massive legal liability from wet belt engines. They are downplaying their issues and reasons for cutting staff to not alert shareholders IMO
The governments problem is that it is trying to get the public to adopt an inferior technology that is still evolving, and subject to major disadvantages, including being very expensive.
Worse still, the rapid evolution process is fueling secondhard EV depreciation rates.
It is said you can take a horse to water, but you cant force it to drink. The government is switching from carrot to stick approach, by taxing fossil fuel vehicles off the road, while starting to apply road tax to EVs. This Labour government is still learning the law of unintended consequences.
EV tech is certainly still in it's infancy. But has evolved enough to the point of being inevitable. Anyone auto manufacturer not investing in the EV future, are doomed.
@daydreamer8373 one knows that the technology has not evolved sufficiently when it can still be said the improvement is no better. That is to say EV technology has yet to exceed the functionality, or even match that of the existing fossil fuel technology. Its only advantage is its green credentials. Unfortunately, the battery technology being used may still prove to be a dead end as it is yet to address the issues of range, refueling time, and longevity. There is also the lack of infrastructure and raw materials. The rapid developments in EV technology is responsible for the large depreciation in the resale value of EVs. I am not denying that the move to green technology is essential, but it is still not certain it is this one. There is an ancient Chinese curse that explains the situation, it says: " May you live in interesting times".
@@nigeljohnson9820 Norway with around 94% of new car sales being EV are showing EV's can match and in many ways exceed the ICE car and indeed are a viable solution.. Battery tech is improving rapidly, with energy density and charging speeds hitting new highs. Infrastructure is far more advanced than most people realise, and again is growing rapidly.
You may have a point with depreciation, as the tech is moving rapidly. EV's at this point are inevitable, and legacy auto are paying the price for not reacting to the coming storm. I will give you credit for at least understanding the importance of a cleaner future.
@daydreamer8373 Norway is not short of electrical power.
@@nigeljohnson9820 No it is not. But EV's actually help support the grid, making it more efficient and supporting it with vehicle to grid technology.
Don't subsidise car makers to sell more cars.
Ford, Stellantis , VW and some others don't make cars in the UK.
Thell them to go the governments where they make the cars.
Stellantis still make cars at Ellesmere port and Vans at Luton though it looks like Luton is finished.
I have a feeling that some ppl are watching my every single move and they are plotting against me. Tbis is really unconfordable position because I have done nothing to them.
Whatever governments say on EVs is irrelevant, I won't ever buy one.
Boris Johnson was a useless PM, he wasn't even any good as a politician and failed at being a minister in most departments. His best years were probably as a journalist and London Mayor.
Net Zero has to go and the government has to stop interfering in markets. This bloke is completely wrong, the figures are totally distorted by the concessions to fleet owners to swap to electric fleets. Private buyers are already rejecting EVs and don't want these short term vehicles with poor retention of value as second hand markets show how few people want them.
The guy is deluded. Boris Johnson pulled the date forward from 2035 to 2030, Sunak pushed it back to 2035 and Labour has pulled it forward again to 2030, which is 5 years faster than Europe. I have no plans to buy an EV that will depreciate almost all of its value in 7 years. Until marked improvements are made, an infrastructure much better than we currently have, there's no point buying a lemon.
I'd sooner do without.
Utter madness!
Too simplistic a report. What planet is this bloke on.
This is what happens when idealism trumps practicality. The concept of electric vehicles in of itself is a fine one but it's fatally flawed. Batteries aren't good enough, are expansive to make and necessitate 'rare' chemicals and metals; they are rare because there isn't very much of them or they are expensive to extract. It's not rocket science!
The Research & Development is clear: Batteries have a limited life and are not easily recyclable. Batteries are heavy and expensive. Few electric cars have easily replaceable batteries so, once the battery comes to the end of its life, the majority of Electric Vehicles will be scrapped. You can witness this in the freefall values of 5 - 6+ year old EVs with poor battery life and the numbers of new EVs sitting unsold all over the world. The majority of people understand this. That's why they are only bought by better off people.
Yet governments ignore these facts, gaslighting us, the people they purport to serve, that we must be stupid or environmentally irresponsible if we don't aspire to an EV.
Even if I could afford to buy an EV, the recharging infrastructure in the UK and much of Europe cannot cope with the small number of EVs on the road today let alone significantly more in coming years. We have all heard stories about carefully planned routes of several hundred miles being stressful because charging points are broken, not working or there is a queue. An infrastructure report from 2024 stated that if we all ran electric vehicles and charged them at night, the electricity network in the UK would not be able to cope. Yet the government chooses to ignore it.
Add to this that most people don't have private driveways and park either on the road or in car parks. Even if all these parking spaces were able to have recharging points, it would be too easy for them to be vandalised, disconnected or even hijacked. Yet this too is conveniently ignored.
Be realistic and tell us the truth and perhaps, just perhaps we might listen. Lie to us and manipulate the truth to your own ends and you will fail because people won't be able to afford to travel to work and the cost of food will increase. Again, it's not rocket science.
The use of graphics in this was pointless.
Checking it's closed at 4:06
The government will have to pony up to put 12 point electric charging “garages” alongside every existing petrol filling station. This is overkill, but it is a question of confidence. Also there needs to be a massive subsidy on new purchase electric vehicles.
Why should my tax money pay for someone else's new car when there's a massive crisis in the NHS? Let the market mechanism and a reduction in business profits through competition take a hit for once instead of taking more of my tax money.
They must NOT be put alongside existing petrol stations. Why do you think that public charge points are out in the open a long way from the pumps with electric fools exposed to the wind and rain and they are not allowed to pay at the kiosk ? Electric cars are at their most dangerous whilst being charged and the more powerful the charger, the greater the danger. Imagine one of them going into thermal run away under the canopy 20 feet from an LPG pump. It is bad enough that these idiots are allowed to park in the same car parks as us.
Manufacturers will have to take the penalties on the chin, build what people want, divide the total cost between ALL of their cars including the electric ones and share it out over ALL of their cars including the electric ones. Generally, if you can afford a new car, you can afford an extra thousand or so and it will STILL be dramatically cheaper than buying an electric nightmare. In fact it would be worth car companies just point blank refuse to make electric cars and add the 15,000 to their prices. Look at the losses made by those companies that have gone down the electric route. An alternative is, you do what some of the Chinese companies have done. They have been manufacturing electric cars to get the subsidies All the cars are registered to get the subsidy but a proportion of the production is taken to fields where the batteries are removed taken back to the factories and fitted to new cars which are registered for the subsidies and then off to the field again and so on. Other things are taken off of or out of the cars ... seats, wipers, some glass, a few wheels complete with tyres, audio systems etc. to be fitted to new production. A sledge hammer is taken to what is left to make it look as if it is an insurance write off. The subsidies are worth considerably more than the bits that are left in the field.
It is too late for the Luton vehicle plant and Ford as they look to lay off 1000 workers in the UK and 3000 in Europe. Then NISSAN to lay off 9000. Not sure if they will lay off at their Sunderland plant as they make the Qashua, Juke and Leaf. But they are reducing the production of the Mirco and Note.
Note neither Ford nor Nissan have a decent EV range offering at present
Electric cars are mainly sold to fleets were there is a tax incentive. The backlash is from the private consumer. Prices discounts are unsustainable. There isn't enough mining capability to produce enough electric cars. The infrastructure and technology isn't there yet. Colin Walker is deluded. EV are great but are only part.of the solution. It is not a one option fixes all. There is also the problem of rare earth minerals being mostly controlled by certain countries. Certain countries are heavily subsidising the car industries at the government level. JCB are doing some great work on Hydrogen and also alternative fuels are another great option. Let the transition be natural with government positively encouraging all alternatives. Not the heavy handed negative approach which is destroying industry and jobs.
How much of our electricity is generated by burning fossil fuels again? And the rest, 'renewable' energy, that's not polluting at all is it and neither is manufacturing lithium ion powered cars. Best of all, I hear the children who mine the rare earth minerals that go into them get treated like royalty. Remember folks, this is all about kindness, humanity and a bright future for us all.
As of 2024, UK electricity is generated by 41.7% renewables, 14.5% nuclear, 32.9% gas, 1% coal, and 9.7% other (other is mostly import from France, who are 90% nuclear). So, about 55% of electricity is generated in the UK is generated by generation that does not emit CO2 (renewable was 3% in 2009, it's now 41.3%). Gas is expected to decrease to ~15% by 2030.
Cobalt is used to refine oil. If you really care about the children mining cobalt buy an EV with a Lithium Iron Phosphate battery - zero cobalt or nickel. While you are at it stop using a cell phone (riddled with cobalt) or a laptop.
@@Diamonddavej Right so let’s take wind power. To build a single wind turbine it takes 120,000-150,000 KG of steel, 500,000 KG of concrete, 5,000 KG of copper, 3,000 kg of aluminium, 600 kg of neodymium, 20 kg of dysprosium and 12,000 kg of fibreglass and 200,000 kg of plastic. They contain 1000 litres of oil that needs disposing of and replacing every 2-3 years and the whole turbine is retired and needs replacing after 20 years. Don’t be conned into believing wind power is pollution free. Add up all the mining of minerals, transporting them, manufacturing and disposal and all the fossil fuels burned in the process, then factor in their inherent inefficiency and the birds they kill and you have an absolute unmitigated environmental disaster!
@@nicholasmansbridge7795 But still cheaper and better for the environment than drilling an oil or gas well!
Complete bs these Company screaming while making bilion s and the CEO making millions personally. We need to tax those earning millions at least 70%. Earning gap between the higher staff and lower staff is getting out of control
People don't want EV's because they are too expensive, and there are not enough charging points etc., charging takes too long . If everyone moved to EV's the government will lose 23bn ( i think) in tax from petrol and diesel, so they will need to increase the tax on electricity which then affects everything we do
The alternative to taxing electricity (which would be absurd) is to tax by road usage, which like fuel-duty is proportional to milage and thus "fairer" for people who only do small local journeys and scales for the people who drive a lot.
But for some reason the petrol-nutters all seem opposed to taxing proportional to usage...
@@DevAnubis 🤣🤣🤣
This is a very poor analysis of the situation the 363,000 figure quoted is for cars produced not sold. The consumer will not be fooled into moving to an EV until the charging infrastructure is much more mature and operators are not fleecing consumers at prices as high as 80p per kw/h. If you take out EVs being put based by company lease schemes the number sold to normal members of the public is tiny. The government should nationalize the charging infrastructure and set a country wide affordable rate if the want any chance of meeting the targets for 2030
Had an EV for 2.5 years and I love it. Charge it weekly from my Solar panels. I agree the charging infrastructure needs to improve, but that will come in time as will better faster charging batteries. No one (except insanely rich people) buy new cars any more. They are all leased or bought second hand and have been for years.
They will still be a throw away product five years down the line .
Depreciation is always never talk about 😅.
Clickbait question.
Answer: No.
Jeez such a poor interview this is so poor c4
How dumb is this conversation. The problem is not the product, the problem is the infrastructure. For an Energy Intelligence Unit this conversation is off the mark. Again.
The market has crashed, this is way too late
Sales are well up year on year, how is that a crash?
@@eddewhurst7662 watch and learn…
No one wants them because of the obvious drawbacks😂😂 there's tens of thousands sat unsold.
There are more combustion engine cars unsold!
150,000 of them sitting in Germany now.
The biggest obvious drawback is negative publicity from people who have never drove one
@@vxnova1- And FUD over something different, plus the FUD spread by the automotive industry itself. And more over, by big oil corps.
@@dcvariousvids8082 ahh yea the saudis and Russians stand to loose here which I am ok with,
😅Cheap EV cars are available but your Govt unwilling to import these cars 😅.
Why are EV not selling? Simple no one wants them or can afford them.
Yet the Tesla Model Y was the best selling car in the world last year. Go figure.
The real question is Why are EVs selling in increased numbers every year? Simple people want them and can afford them.
I was surprised at channel 4 coming across as balanced then they wheeled in the climate fool so you didn’t let me down.
The government needs to ask the people who use, and buy, cars not the people who make them where the problems lie. At the moment it appears Jackanory thinking is operating.
Colin Walker is in cloud cuckoo land. The only big buyers of EVs are leasing companies and company car operators. Private buyers will not tolerate the huge depreciation of new EVs . Who wants second hand 'old tech' which is what used EVs represent? And lets not forget the millions of flat and terraced house owners who cannot charge at home. Get real Colin.
Most of these sales are companies fleet sales . That’s driving sales up and selling these cars at a loss
That is also putting a lot of second hand EVs on the market a few years down the line.
and?
Because they are expensive and dull!
Not everyone needs a big electric SUV, but equally, some drivers aren't dead from the neck down, so they want something maybe more exciting than a Prius.
Where's the fun gone, where has design gone 🤷♂️
Wow! You have obviously not driven a decent EV.
Have you seen the Ionic 5N then?
I bet that guy you had on at the energy and climate unit, if you went to his house, there would still be a petrol car in his garage. And this zero emission is a total joke for cars. EV's have tail pipes too. At the open pit mines, there is an EV tailpipe, At the electric company that charges the EV's, there is a tailpipe, and when the EV battery dies, {And all batteries die}, There is a tailpipe ro recycle these batteries safely, using fossil fuels. So EV's are not zero free either because of their tail pipes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
your not getting an e.v the grid couldnt cope simple! your being taken off the road simple! wake up
Most EVs charge at night, evening out the load, that is why I can charge my car for 7p per kwh which is a good deal for me meaning I can drive for 2p per mile, it is still profitable for the supplier. My supplier tells me although I cannot verify it that they can make more profit with my business and reduce costs for everyone (or perhaps being cynical make more profit for themselves).
@@eddewhurst7662 you might be able too at the moment but they will introduce a higher tariff for e.v charging by your smart meter. also they will ramp up that seperately to your house price per kw. also you missed the most important point which is lets say 5% of e.vs are on the road now if it was 100% the grid couldnt cope! so like i said it isnt going to happen its nonsense. also how do people who live in flats etc get home charging? they cant.please wake up to the green nonsense its not hard just need to think a bit more!
@@johndawson8806 This is a common myth. EV's will actually play an important part in balancing the grid, and new vehicle to grid technology will also be able to support the grid. ICE cars are not the only thing changing. The way we think about energy also. the way we generate, store and use said energy is changing too.
@@daydreamer8373 sorry that is utter nonsesnse all this green nonsense is not even viable unless huge subsidies are given which inflates everyones energy bills. companies cant sell evs as they are not wanted. the whole ev energy climate nonsense is a scam which corporations are making huge profits for something that is just not fit for purpose.
Who ever that guy you got on, mad me turn the video off. Total madness
Part of the issue with EVs is that they only really make sense if you can charge them at home which largely benefits the older generation who could more easily put a mortgage down for a home and have somewhere to install an EV charger. It's not a luxury that many younger people have who may be living with parents to save up or be forced to rent.
Hate to say but I'll be sticking with my old diesel Golf for now as it was relatively cheap to pick up and is cheap to run.
Too late.
They fucked it, now they are terrified that they are exposing themselves for being incompetent!
People will never adopt EVs for all driving, they are not suitable.
Yaaawn.
It's funny how people say they aren't suitable whilst the people with them just get on and live their lives...
According to a climate weather person onUA-cam, the temperatures in the Northern hemisphere is going to get colder due to the Gulf Stream. EV are not very good if this happens as the cold infiltrates the battery and the heating in the cars takes a lot of electricity and pushes the mileage down. In an ICE car, the fuel works the heater in the car with no problem.
If that happens we a re screwed, EVs will be the least of our problems, but EVs are very reliable in cold weather and the new Chinese batteries are also great in cold weather.