You have any special ideas for upcoming maps? Can't imagine what you would even consider for a map 30 of a megawad like this. Anyway, keep up the good work!
@@felipegomes6312 It's exploding barrels (2304 barrels in this map), blowing up. It's a mapping trick to create corpses, usually for Archviles to resurrect, or just for aesthetic purposes (you can see the dead bodies in the streets). Kinda both in this case. You could just put dead bodies while making the map, but those are just props, something Archviles can't resurrect. There is also a limited selection of these props, like no revenant corpses, for example. So when you see those in the streets, you know the poor bastard was blown up by barrels.
@@Santti1989 Nice! It's like beyond the original Doom these advanced giant maps almost make it a new game. I wonder why Quake or other shooters never had such thing, I mean maybe Half-life had to some extent, with different mods, but not on this level of map making.
Really entertaining watch. History making. I saw the kill count at the beginning and so many times asked how the hell is it possible do this without dying. Skills off the chart, strategy and map exploits incredible, dodging and prediction insane, it is obvious the massive amount of time and effort that you put into these runs and Doom skill in general. I'm sitting here in 2022, watching fresh runs of a game from the early/mid 90's thinking about how amazing it looked back then on my friend's 486 and how it is still as of right now one of the best games to watch, play and extend thanks to players like you, the map makers, this youtube thing and the doom scene in general. Loved your look backs en route to the exit after you hunted down that last hell knight, what a feeling that must have been. Well earned and congrats!
Damn InsaneGazebo. Your creative vision to come up with these map designs is phenomenal. I'm in awe of Sunder. I don't think I quite have the Dooming skills to take it on myself, though lol.
I’m just literally in awe watching this map getting maxed….that’s really all I can say 😂 props to you Zero proving once again you’re simply the best Doom player that’s ever lived.
Intensional lindef skips. Multiple precise rocket jumps. Glides. An archvile jump. "a lot of it just looks like a casual playthrough to me" I'm probably not alone in saying that my casual playthroughs involve such strategies as iddqd and idkfa.
The title of this map reminded me of the Star Trek episode, City on the Edge of Forever so I went and watched that again. Both this level and the episode are soul crushing
GG ZM! "...I use nearly every trick there is for this level..." Exciting stuff! Thanks for all the videos & the extensive video descriptions & pastebin's. _Very much appreciated_ :-) *Cheers!*
Keeping calm after some really close calls, surviving very tight and packed areas and specially memorize the strategies and corners for each area, and archies placements etc...just insane
Your skills are insane, there is no doubt. For me the most impressive thing is that you can keep yourself focused and keep your agility and energy for such a long time, wow! In addition to your game, I am very impressed with this map - textures, light, atmosphere, attention to detail and consistency are one thing. And the other is its topography, use of space, its great size, the second wow!
It may have been just because the run had been judged to be on a slow pace and therefore there was nothing to lose, but I appreciate the extra moment at the end to take in the vista before finally proceeding to the exit.
The gameplay is one thing but the tricks employed are otherwordly! A doom genius at work... love watching the next level understanding of doom physics you display! Never thought this map could be uv-maxxed with no saves! 🙏🏽
Just feel that Alien Vendetta, Hell Revealed, etc. are just much easier when comparing with Sunder. Sunder is just insane. Anyway wonderful job was done! Congratulations!
One thing I like about these giant groups of cacodemons is how when you approach them they all start moving down in a wave to stay at the top of the screen. It’s kind of funny to watch them do that.
What a beast of a run! Must have been real heart clenching at the end when you were trying to find that last monster and were wondering if you had missed one further back in the map!
Unfortunately not possible. Sunder requires Boom's limit removals, and id/Bethesda/Microsoft will never use Boom because of business, corporate and legal red tape.
Never thought I would see a backwards glide, that was certainly new! Not sure if this is deliberate or not but the MIDI has a recurring note that sounds like beating wings which reminds me of the Hive Mother
You've left Public Works with a nasty job to clean up this mess while simultaneously killing everyone who worked there, leaving the City at the Mouth of Ire in dire financial straits. I hope you're happy.
Random dude: can you beat my map in under 10 seconds with pistol start? ZeroMaster: How many enemies? Random dude: I knew you'd ask. 128 enemies. That's a lot, right? ZeroMaster: yes, it's a lot. Much a lot, sure. I'll need just one bullet, not a single bullet more. Don't ask why. Random dude: you will cheat? ZeroMaster: You know me, it certainly looks like cheating, but I'm just the best. Random dude: I know, but will you cheat? ZeroMaster: Watch me at 0:00. Random dude: Careful… whoaa! YOU'VE CHEATED BIG. H-H-How did you do that? ZeroMaster: I don't know. And I won't explain. I've won.
"7000 monsters? Surely they can't be that many. (few minutes later). Oh my god.... And that's just the start!". Watching the video makes me realize I'd never be able to complete this map, even with cheats. Hats off to the Master of Doom.
For some reason this map lags so much in GZDoom, which is odd, because I've managed to play Holy Hell full version just fine with very minor fps drops.
I had to change from opengl to softpoly, helped a lot with the lag, also mess around with video settings, I got gzdoom to play the later maps with no lag, but I have no idea exactly how I did it
That's because the engine is heavier and deals with more code, and this map has a BOATLOAD of linedefs and sectors to mind. And it doesn't help that GZDoom doesn't work in multicore.
@@DinnerForkTongue Sorry for the very late response, but I've decided to replay Sunder recently. Here is the thing. Now Map 19 runs fine in GZDoom, BUT, when I try to play it, and only Map19 with Russian Overkill, it lags down to a halt. I am not sure what is causing it. Killing all monsters through commands didn't help. Using Freeze did though, just like using the time stopping grenade launcher. In the wiki it states that Freeze stops "all monsters, projectiles, friendlies and item animations", which I assume the last one is what causing the lag. I don't know if there is a command that clears all items though to check this theory.
Ye, that's because of how GZDoom tracks monsters. Boom and its successors don't count lost souls as kills revives as either the same or actually reducing the kill count on resurrection.
My first attempt at this map in uvmax I thought it was impossible single segment. By the third I had a plan, fifth I made it. I should try whispers next but that map terrifies me, as does Singing void
I know you are the best Doom player or at least one of the top but I didn't expect you to play the HUD. I play without it, it makes you a better player
![Doom 2 Ice Rage UV-MAX [TAS] in 1:56:10](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qForezVEEpw/mqdefault.jpg)
I didn't think I'd see a UVMax done for this map done for a very long time. Glad to be proven wrong!
Have you thought about whether you'll remove any cheese in future sunder patches? Just wondering
You have any special ideas for upcoming maps? Can't imagine what you would even consider for a map 30 of a megawad like this. Anyway, keep up the good work!
I did but the time... have you seen the time?
Fvcking beast. Absolute-Zero
Absolutely IG - Maps 16 & 19 were the ones I had been eagerly waiting to see ZM complete maxes on, plus of course Map 32 as well. What a treat!
In maps 15 and 32 there's a blue picture of a female demon head. really cool do you remember anything about it.
0:00
Zero Master: shoots once
Kill counter: 128/6773.
the mobs kill each other probably
no way!
@@felipegomes6312 It's exploding barrels (2304 barrels in this map), blowing up. It's a mapping trick to create corpses, usually for Archviles to resurrect, or just for aesthetic purposes (you can see the dead bodies in the streets). Kinda both in this case. You could just put dead bodies while making the map, but those are just props, something Archviles can't resurrect. There is also a limited selection of these props, like no revenant corpses, for example. So when you see those in the streets, you know the poor bastard was blown up by barrels.
@@Santti1989 Nice! It's like beyond the original Doom these advanced giant maps almost make it a new game. I wonder why Quake or other shooters never had such thing, I mean maybe Half-life had to some extent, with different mods, but not on this level of map making.
They realised Zero Master had spawned in - 128 of them didn't fancy the challenge.
Really entertaining watch. History making. I saw the kill count at the beginning and so many times asked how the hell is it possible do this without dying. Skills off the chart, strategy and map exploits incredible, dodging and prediction insane, it is obvious the massive amount of time and effort that you put into these runs and Doom skill in general.
I'm sitting here in 2022, watching fresh runs of a game from the early/mid 90's thinking about how amazing it looked back then on my friend's 486 and how it is still as of right now one of the best games to watch, play and extend thanks to players like you, the map makers, this youtube thing and the doom scene in general.
Loved your look backs en route to the exit after you hunted down that last hell knight, what a feeling that must have been. Well earned and congrats!
thanks :)
This is probably one of the most impressive runs, to go 2 hours without dying with 6000+ in tight areas.
Man. There were some damn close calls. Once when he got penned in without a BFG. Oh man. I clenched
@@ericgrimes341 there were a coulple of cyberdemon rockets who flew by his ear too lol
The absolute madman is hitting us with three Sunder maps in less than a week
Almost 7k enemies :)
Yeah, I tried this with godmode on and just quit after 30 minutes.
The fact that you UV maxed it in just over 2 hours is witchcraft to me. Love it.
The titan has fallen!
Damn InsaneGazebo. Your creative vision to come up with these map designs is phenomenal. I'm in awe of Sunder. I don't think I quite have the Dooming skills to take it on myself, though lol.
I knew you'd be the first person to clear this Map, I'm not even surprised lol
I told the same
I’m just literally in awe watching this map getting maxed….that’s really all I can say 😂 props to you Zero proving once again you’re simply the best Doom player that’s ever lived.
Not yet.
Well that's definitely a visually striking thumbnail. Took me a second to realize _the sky is cacodemons._
I've always been fashinated by the aftermath of a huge battle, when you dive in the sea of corpses immersed in the absolute silence.
Your videos are always entertaining to watch, please keep the good work up!
There is a worldwide supply shortage of plasma after the amount of BFG rounds he shot in this map
That's not such a problem, since hell has no demons left
He practiced this enormous level, recorded it, and wrote up long commentary within 24 hours of the last level. Unbelievable.
The absolute madman!
@@soulsphere9242 I think it's because the next map isn't put yet
That's what i call Absolute-Zero 😎
I too had a feeling it's not his first time playing this.
@@guymor910
No, it's already out. IG released it a few weeks ago.
Intensional lindef skips. Multiple precise rocket jumps. Glides. An archvile jump.
"a lot of it just looks like a casual playthrough to me"
I'm probably not alone in saying that my casual playthroughs involve such strategies as iddqd and idkfa.
Zeromaster just dropping em back to back to back! Savage my friend!
that first arch-vile jump was the most elegant one i've ever seen, bravo
Time stamp?
@@pronemanoldbutyoung5548 3:27, super early on
The title of this map reminded me of the Star Trek episode, City on the Edge of Forever so I went and watched that again. Both this level and the episode are soul crushing
GG ZM! "...I use nearly every trick there is for this level..." Exciting stuff!
Thanks for all the videos & the extensive video descriptions & pastebin's. _Very much appreciated_ :-)
*Cheers!*
U are a doom god there isn't a single thing u cannot do when it comes to doom man keep up the good work
Keeping calm after some really close calls, surviving very tight and packed areas and specially memorize the strategies and corners for each area, and archies placements etc...just insane
you are sick man, amazing... this is another level
Your skills are insane, there is no doubt. For me the most impressive thing is that you can keep yourself focused and keep your agility and energy for such a long time, wow!
In addition to your game, I am very impressed with this map - textures, light, atmosphere, attention to detail and consistency are one thing. And the other is its topography, use of space, its great size, the second wow!
Another video that proves Zero Master will forever be a DOOM god... Amazing work
It may have been just because the run had been judged to be on a slow pace and therefore there was nothing to lose, but I appreciate the extra moment at the end to take in the vista before finally proceeding to the exit.
"how many BFG shots you need?"
Zero Master : yes
Amazing run. This is the craziest Sunder map, I never thought this map would ever be maxed.
Damn, bustin out the parkour tactics. ZM wasn't kidding about the shenanigans he was about to pull. Nice.
The gameplay is one thing but the tricks employed are otherwordly! A doom genius at work... love watching the next level understanding of doom physics you display! Never thought this map could be uv-maxxed with no saves! 🙏🏽
0:00 1 pistol shot, 128 monsters died. Legend
Got to love mapping tricks like voodoo dolls and linedefs
Good run. Amazing work on this crazy long map
ZERO-MASTER once again proved that he is the DOOM-GOD.
With these Sunder uploads, I think it's fair to say he is BEYOND a Doom God. He's a Doom Celestial
bruh, he's literally the doomslayer with a go pro on his head
*6773 corpses lying in the street*
Icon of Sin: Wtf happened to my city?!
This rides like a roller-coaster. Subscribed!
Just feel that Alien Vendetta, Hell Revealed, etc. are just much easier when comparing with Sunder. Sunder is just insane. Anyway wonderful job was done! Congratulations!
the quintessence of speedrunning. congratulations!
6772 demons: Lets fight to death
1 hell knight: F*ck that, lemme hide real quick...
Briliant skip. You are one true doom god
Ps: you took our words about early BFG as a challenge😁
One thing I like about these giant groups of cacodemons is how when you approach them they all start moving down in a wave to stay at the top of the screen. It’s kind of funny to watch them do that.
gg wp sir 👌 What a treat to behold a few hours b4 Elden Ring drops, ty vm @Zero Master
1 shot, 128 deaths, 4 seconds.
Mother of God....
1:50:33 I've seen cacoclouds before, but that is a cacocumulonimbus!
Zero master your are THE SICKEST
You are a artist in my favorite childhood game. Well played. You welcome
You are completely out of control and have lost your mind. A huge congratulations and I don't even know what else to write.
I never even played this map myself, i normally wouldn't watch the video but dammmmn how much i LOVE this series god darn it.
man this final fight is just a spectacle
What a beast of a run! Must have been real heart clenching at the end when you were trying to find that last monster and were wondering if you had missed one further back in the map!
i fall asleep to this video every night
12:15 and 12:42
Holy cow what a run! I wish I could play this level with little to no monsters so I could walk around and admire the architecture.
Always exceeded expectations Doom God. You're my #1 favorite video game player
i can't imagine playing this map without being able to aim up and having to rely on auto aim, you are a mad man
Incredible. You're the real doom god.
This is just ridiculous, I honestly looked at the kill count at the start and said no way! Of course you did it, you’re Zero Master. GGs!
BRO !! You are a legend!
Dude I spent DAYS on this map before finally resorting to quicksaves and then STILL struggled to get through! Zero Master is the Doom GOAT!
Epic gameplay! Keep up this great work.
46:02 just chillin
image that the doom II maps when the game came out like Sunder (:
Wow these maps are awesome. Would love to see some SUNDER LEVELS come to consoles in a future update for DOOM 2.
Unfortunately not possible. Sunder requires Boom's limit removals, and id/Bethesda/Microsoft will never use Boom because of business, corporate and legal red tape.
@@DinnerForkTongue oh well, I am going have to buy a PC to play this .
@@defenderandoom7833
A mid-range laptop should run Sunder fine as long as you use PrBoom+. It's a highly optimised port.
At the point the bodies start double stacking… You are truly…
Knee Deep In the Dead
Never thought I would see a backwards glide, that was certainly new!
Not sure if this is deliberate or not but the MIDI has a recurring note that sounds like beating wings which reminds me of the Hive Mother
1:41:11 what kind of Monsters are those????
You've left Public Works with a nasty job to clean up this mess while simultaneously killing everyone who worked there, leaving the City at the Mouth of Ire in dire financial straits. I hope you're happy.
You're not human, mate. You're a God, a Titan, a Demiurge.
it's just a computer game, silly. Nevertheless, you're right insofar… he's very special indeed.
Random dude: can you beat my map in under 10 seconds with pistol start?
ZeroMaster: How many enemies?
Random dude: I knew you'd ask. 128 enemies. That's a lot, right?
ZeroMaster: yes, it's a lot. Much a lot, sure. I'll need just one bullet, not a single bullet more. Don't ask why.
Random dude: you will cheat?
ZeroMaster: You know me, it certainly looks like cheating, but I'm just the best.
Random dude: I know, but will you cheat?
ZeroMaster: Watch me at 0:00.
Random dude: Careful… whoaa! YOU'VE CHEATED BIG. H-H-How did you do that?
ZeroMaster: I don't know. And I won't explain. I've won.
When I'm on my deathbed and someone asks me the most beautiful thing I've ever seen, my answer will be "a swarm of cacodemons".
I know an Archvile that has an autographed picture of Zero Master on his wall. Transcendent.
I never thought this was possible. ZM, you keep one-upping yourself.
Great game play!!!! Your a professional👍🏾
I came to see how you got the bfg. incredible
I'd just like to say what the actual fuck?
We love you Zero Master!
bruv that is wild. ZM smashes it every time. 😎👊
very good shit ZM, gg!
OH. MY. GOD.
This is so fun to play and watch
"7000 monsters? Surely they can't be that many. (few minutes later). Oh my god.... And that's just the start!". Watching the video makes me realize I'd never be able to complete this map, even with cheats. Hats off to the Master of Doom.
Great run
Nice to blast ya!
For some reason this map lags so much in GZDoom, which is odd, because I've managed to play Holy Hell full version just fine with very minor fps drops.
I had to change from opengl to softpoly, helped a lot with the lag, also mess around with video settings, I got gzdoom to play the later maps with no lag, but I have no idea exactly how I did it
That's because the engine is heavier and deals with more code, and this map has a BOATLOAD of linedefs and sectors to mind. And it doesn't help that GZDoom doesn't work in multicore.
@@DinnerForkTongue Sorry for the very late response, but I've decided to replay Sunder recently. Here is the thing. Now Map 19 runs fine in GZDoom, BUT, when I try to play it, and only Map19 with Russian Overkill, it lags down to a halt. I am not sure what is causing it. Killing all monsters through commands didn't help. Using Freeze did though, just like using the time stopping grenade launcher. In the wiki it states that Freeze stops "all monsters, projectiles, friendlies and item animations", which I assume the last one is what causing the lag. I don't know if there is a command that clears all items though to check this theory.
Idk how you stay dialed in from start to finish amidst the continuous chaos this map throws at you but nice run!
A fleet of Cacodemons approaches
I know we call him a Doom God, but at this point I don't think even a God would be this good at playing Doom
In my country, we call the move in 1:02:56 a "Zas en toda la cara."
I get a Map 16 vibe about this map's music. It's so eerie and creepy. But Archives of Technomancer.
But Archives what?
@@DinnerForkTongue 👌
@@popgas3821
Good answer.
The monster count in this map is deceptive. At the end after I killed everything, GZDoom reported around 7800 kills after revives and lost souls.
Ye, that's because of how GZDoom tracks monsters. Boom and its successors don't count lost souls as kills revives as either the same or actually reducing the kill count on resurrection.
The music of this map sounds a bit like as if it's an icon of sin 2.0 but without the whistle.
Holy fuck, dude!.... How is this even possible?!...
Whoah! Nice start! You killed 128 monster with a single pistol bullet :P
My first attempt at this map in uvmax I thought it was impossible single segment. By the third I had a plan, fifth I made it. I should try whispers next but that map terrifies me, as does Singing void
At 1:50:56 I didn't know you could hit a falling corpse with a rocket. Poor caco
I know you are the best Doom player or at least one of the top but I didn't expect you to play the HUD. I play without it, it makes you a better player
55:53
Now that is evil
At 3:55 Zero was ready to engage.
Are those giant bees saying something when they wake up?
Achilles: What is your name soldier?
Zero Master: Zero Master, son of the ONE.
Achilles: I’ll remember the name. 👊
Question: Can a Archvile resurrect a Bee (or HiveMother)? Thanks
nope.
Hive Mothers have no raise state.
@@ZeroMaster now, yes, but they will evolve. Soon.
2 hours of pure adrenaline!