I was among the skeptics back then who couldn't imagine Floyd without Waters, and then I heard Signs of Life, On the Turning Away, Terminal Frost and Sorrow, and then saw them live. Now I see Waters for what he is: a cantankerous old coot who screams at kids to get off his lawn.
Yet Another Movie and Sorrow are two of my favorite Pink Floyd songs ever and the 2019 remix is awesome making A Momentary Lapse of Reason one of the best PF albums ever.
IMO it's not fair or correct to completely dismiss AMLOR. Like most every album it has its high and low points. Signs of Life, Learning to Fly, on The Turning Away and Sorrow are all exceptional. And even if they don't quite *sound* like The Wall or Animals, what's wrong with that? Would any PF fan say Saucerful of Secrets sounds like The Final Cut? Yet, this album always gets singled out for not sounding Floydian or as though it should have been a Gilmour solo effort. Completely unfair and inaccurate IMO. While it isn't the best PF album of all time it's not the monstrousity that some make it out to be.
@@classicalbum You said you liked the remix, not necessarily the album. How terribly unfair! AMLOR is a great album! Why won't you redirect your harsh criticism to The final cut, a genuine bore, carved on vinyl by Waters almost alone, not worth the trouble, theirs or ours. The other members' contributions are minimal, and noboby who is a PF lover will even bother to play it. AMLOR isn't a concept LP, almost a concept LP but not quite, and PF did not always issue concept albums. THey were always keen on coherent albums that fascinate us from beginning to end, and despised singles which are all about business and not Music as the art. As for the remix I'll take your word for it, I look forward to owning and listening and enjoying the new 2019 remix. You also contradict yourself every minute, you do not like the album AMLOR yet you seem to enjoy Delicate sound of thunder, both CD and video, according to your other videos, which, surprise of all surprises, IS mostly AMLOR played live plus some tracks from The Wall and WYWH. I suspect you suffered from a momentary lapse of something...? How come???
I often thought back in the day that from DSOTM onward Pink Floyd covered the five stages of grief; anger (Animals) bargaining (WYWH) denial (DSOTM) and depression (The Wall) and with 'A Momentary Lapse of Reason' I think that the Roger-less Pink Floyd discovered the last stage of grief; acceptance. Dave Nick and Rick certainly accepted each other more readily than Roger accepted anything at the time.
I love both of those, with Momentary having more of a primal hold on me going back to my early teen years, and Division being a much more "objectively" masterful recording and tasteful mix, and more in line with Floyd's typical sound, for better or worse depending on one's ear I guess
Though I prefer The Division Bell, a momentary lapse of reason is a gorgeous album with very haunting and mystical sounds that are reminiscent of a dream that you can’t escape but you know it’s a dream.
For me the appeal of this album (discovered when I was probably about 15) was always it's feeling of being a totally isolated, futuristic, depersonalized, existentially despairing, machine-like music, which both the technology of the time and the reality of Dave's isolated and uncertain period of recording it made possible. I always thought Dogs of War stunk, regardless of the mix haha, but everything else was and still is gold to me, and the sometimes inappropriately punching drum sounds, squealing "dentist" guitar, and expansive reverb almost to parody levels somehow all work together to give a feeling of, what felt to me at the time and still kind of does, like Sartre-in-sound. Which, was completely my headspace as a teenager, and I can still kind of fall back into. Also I am a total X Files fanboy and have been for like 25 years, and I get some of the same impressions of cosmic dread from both pieces of art
I love your channel! One of the best on UA-cam. After watching your review I was able to find someone selling the remix for the album on eBay. I don't have the funds right now to order the box set.
Unfortunately Waters and Gilmour aren't getting on at all lately. I happen to love this album for the very reason of Roger poisoning the well and the band making an album anyway.
I always loved that album was extremely 80s sounding. Its just kinda eerie and creepy sounding. I find out you love yet another movie as I consider that to be one of the most 80s sounding track on the album. I think the album has a massive sound and a cool mystique.
For me the appeal of this album (discovered when I was probably about 15) was always it's feeling of being a totally isolated, futuristic, depersonalized, existentially despairing, machine-like music, which both the technology of the time and the reality of Dave's isolated and uncertain period of recording it made possible. I always thought Dogs of War stunk, regardless of the mix haha, but everything else was and still is gold to me, and the sometimes inappropriately punching drum sounds, squealing "dentist" guitar, and expansive reverb almost to parody levels somehow all work together to give a feeling of, what felt to me at the time and still kind of does, like Sartre-in-sound. Which, was completely my headspace as a teenager, and I can still kind of fall back into.
As a long time Floyd fan, I was pleasantly surprised at the under looked quality of this album, all things considered. And yes, Yet another Movie is a convincing factor in keeping this album afloat. But I also love the opening track, Signs of Life. I get that it's hardly comparative to the Floyd of the 70s, but I'd always been encouraged by the efforts of this comeback album.
For me the appeal of this album (discovered when I was probably about 15) was always it's feeling of being a totally isolated, futuristic, depersonalized, existentially despairing, machine-like music, which both the technology of the time and the reality of Dave's isolated and uncertain period of recording it made possible. I always thought Dogs of War stunk, regardless of the mix haha, but everything else was and still is gold to me, and the sometimes inappropriately punching drum sounds, squealing "dentist" guitar, and expansive reverb almost to parody levels somehow all work together to give a feeling of, what felt to me at the time and still kind of does, like Sartre-in-sound. Which, was completely my headspace as a teenager, and I can still kind of fall back into.
The previous album, The Final Cut, is an absolutely God awful depressing Roger Waters dirge, played by Pink Floyd. This one, A Momentary Lapse of Reason, is a David Gilmour collection, of good songs and instrumentals, played by Pink Floyd. These two albums serve to demonstrate just how far apart Waters and Gilmour were, musically and in attitude to life in the early 1980’s. I have all PF albums (including TFC 🙄) and I must say I do quite like AMLOR.
I love this album. Both versions. And I understand that places in me in the minority of people’s reactions to this record. That said, this remix is the superior of the two and does transform it from what was basically a Gilmour solo project to a Floyd record. The drums… spot on. Great vid as always. Many thanks.
Thank you. This is the first floyd albm I owned and the one that got me into them back in 1987. The live versions on DSoT really make the songs on this album come to life. In any case, that hammond organ in the 2019 version of One Slip is just phenomenal.
Great video, Barry. It will be interesting to hear this remaster, although this album is a bit patchy for me. It has its good moments, though. Like all your videos, very enjoyable and informative.
I hesitate to call this a "remix." I refer to it as a "re-imagining." Re-recording drum parts, and flying in Rick's keyboard parts from live shows (and Gilmour's vocals, for that matter) goes way beyond a remix.This presents a couple of problems for me: Every album is of the era in which it was recorded. I've heard people say that earlier works like Dark Side sound "timeless." Even then, bands used the best available techniques, and the Floyd were known for sonic "perfection." But when I listen to it, it sounds like it was recorded in the early 70's. That being said, my first musical loves were 80's new wave and pop. So the "pop sheen" on Momentary Lapse doesn't distract me from the songs. On the same note, some of the songs on the re-imagining suffer from the different drum sound and lack of big 80's reverb, in my opinion. Songs like Yet Another Movie and Terminal Frost were built around a big, reverby drum soundscape; when you take that away, it changes the whole dynamic of the song. Sure, the drums sound like you're in a cozy room with them on the remix, but it doesn't fit with everything else that's going on and pulls me out of the song. For me, this re-imaging is a curiosity, like the re-recording of Money on A Collection of Great Dance Songs. Is it fun to listen to occasionally? Sure. Will it replace the original for me? No. Thank you for your review! It's always interesting to hear other people's measured opinions.....
For me the appeal of this album (discovered when I was probably about 15) was always it's feeling of being a totally isolated, futuristic, depersonalized, existentially despairing, machine-like music, which both the technology of the time and the reality of Dave's isolated and uncertain period of recording it made possible. I always thought Dogs of War stunk, regardless of the mix haha, but everything else was and still is gold to me, and the sometimes inappropriately punching drum sounds, squealing "dentist" guitar, and expansive reverb almost to parody levels somehow all work together to give a feeling of, what felt to me at the time and still kind of does, like Sartre-in-sound. Which, was completely my headspace as a teenager, and I can still kind of fall back into.
I gave the revised tracks a try, and they're a hit-and-miss for me. The production on the tracks is very good, for the most part. And so are the keyboards. I didn't like the dry sound of the drums, though. Some of the mixing is an acquired taste as well. I like that they tried to make the album a more "timeless" effort but to be honest, I was a bit disappointed with the end result. It's not _awful,_ but I will have to stick with the original one, sorry to say. After all, I appreciate the LP for what it _was,_ not what it _could_ have been.
For me the appeal of this album (discovered when I was probably about 15) was always it's feeling of being a totally isolated, futuristic, depersonalized, existentially despairing, machine-like music, which both the technology of the time and the reality of Dave's isolated and uncertain period of recording it made possible. I always thought Dogs of War stunk, regardless of the mix haha, but everything else was and still is gold to me, and the sometimes inappropriately punching drum sounds, squealing "dentist" guitar, and expansive reverb almost to parody levels somehow all work together to give a feeling of, what felt to me at the time and still kind of does, like Sartre-in-sound. Which, was completely my headspace as a teenager, and I can still kind of fall back into.
I just get the Cd Blue Ray and Double vinyl edition. I think it’s hey did a very enjoyable improvement. I’m agree with your comments. Regards from Monterrey, Mexico. 🇲🇽
I think it is a very good Album. Learning to Fly, Sorrow and On the Turning Away are killer-tracks that I love. An I prefer this album so much over the sleeping-pill "Division Bell" which really lacks fast and rocking songs.
I have just listened to this remix for the first time. As a fan of the 87 version despite all the cold reverb and gigantic gated snares; I found the remix an uncomfortable sonic portmanteau. I freely admit that 35 years of audiating the original and one listen of the remix is not an unbiased position for objective appraisal. In my heart however; I do prefer a version that represents the skills of Gilmour, Wright and Mason more fully, so I’m glad it exists and will keep listening. Great channel by the way, looking forward to checking out your other content.
Just finished listening to the AMLOR remix 5.1 dts master Blu Ray from the box set. It was truly an amazing experience. If you have a quality HiFi with surround sound this is definitely worth a listen.
Very good, thorough review of this album. I agree with your assessment of it and I much appreciate your take on what might be an overall concept of this album. Really great thought of yours. I suscribed to your channel too.
Good review. I like your choice of words. The drum track on Sorrow however was not redone by Nick Mason it is still the same programmed drum track with just less processing. If you listen carefully the fills are identical!
Hello. I really enjoy your channel. Sorry if I missed it but how are you listening to the new mix of this record? I thought this was only available through the box set, which is out of my price range have always liked this record, although the 80s production does wear thin quickly. Thanks for the review
Hi. A fair review, although I think I like it better than you do ... it harks back to some memorable university moments for me! But you're right about the dreadful 80's production, and that has always grated with me. Do you know if the 2019 Remix is available on its own, or only as part of the 'Later Years' collection? I am struggling to find it ... plenty of the 2017 version around, though.
You have motivated me to give this mix a listen. The original has always been heavily criticised by myself and 90% of my peers as being a dull 80's "David Gilmour Band" mind you we are all born in the 90's, are musicians and loathe the mainstream production of the 1980s. I cannot think of a time where I've listened to the whole album without skipping a couple of tracks and very rarely have I even wanted to put it on despite Pink Floyd being one of my favourite bands. Perhaps it is worth adding to my agenda as I've been recently comparing King Crimson's recent remixes, sounds like I'd have a lot more to say about this album than those.
I have always had a soft spot for this album. I get why people don't like it, but it came out at the perfect time for me and has a lot of nostalgia value for me. It probably also helps that I've never been a huge fan of the band. :) Thanks for the review!
@@leesaiga1785 I liked it, it was of it's time and quite frankly was all the better for not having Roger around, I actually think you could scrap half of the Wall and it would be a better album, the last good album with Roger was Animals but that is elevated because of David and Ricks performances, I was watching an interview with Guy Pratt and he said that whilst Roger was all about the concept and ideas David had even played bass on tracks over the years and there are stories that David stepped in and played drums as well.
@@classicalbum I applaud you for having keen hearing to pick up the nuances and changing of things which remixing provides. I have not heard the 2019 remix but was just fine with the original AMLOR. I love your review style, and am a subscriber. Great work as always!
My first Floyd album was "Wish You Were Here"...which didn't grab me, but I liked it enough to try again. I had remembered seeing "Learning To Fly" on MTV as a kid, and thought it was great. I never forgot about it. So I picked up this album next and thought it was pretty amazing. I would soon go on to discover better albums like "Dark Side...," "Meddle," and "Piper At the Gates..." and became hooked on Floyd. But probably wouldn't have had it not been for this album. It encouraged me to keep looking into Floyd's catalogue. This was back in the days of CDs, when I had to order most of my music over mail orders. Although I believe I found this album on cassette at K-Mart! Those were the days... I can see the criticisms now, but at the time I thought nothing of it. Every Floyd album has it's own character and personality, and this album is no exception. But I admit I probably like it more than it deserves. But "Momentary..." was my "first love" when it came to Floyd's catalogue.
Thank you so very much for drawing my attention to this. Due to the pricetag I usually don't bother even to take notice of any of those big box bundle sets. But thankfully Pink Floyd made this AMLOR remix available through UA-cam, so I listened. And wow! The album certainly never was in my top 13 list of PF albums for all the very reasons you and everybody else has so rightfuly described. But this felt like listening to a completely new Pink Floyd album, they sound as floydish as any band without Roger Waters can possibly sound when having Gilmour, Mason and Wright among themselves.
David was great when it came to producing rhythm, mysticism, and melody, but Roger always brought emotion, order, and perfection to each record. I speculate Waters and Gilmore were codependent when making albums, one has something the other needs enable to bring the music to life.
I agree, the remixed album is very much superior. Learning to Fly has lost an important KB part but that's the only down side of the whole project for me. The original version can now gather dust.
Barry, the remix/updated version pushed the album into my Top 10 All Time Favorite Pink Floyd albums. Nick playing all of the drums on the album except for Sorrow which still has the drum machine for some reason. Now Rick is on the whole album on keyboards and sounds more natural. The Animals Remix was a hatchet job with some tracks badly altered (Pigs and Sheep were altered for the worse and also Dogs was botched with the high synth notes coming in now a beat late rather than on the acoustic guitar chord changes).
I have a lot of sentimental memories invested in AMLOR. I can remember the very day I ran to my local record store ( it was actually a little market stall) where I’d pre-ordered it. I remember running home with it in my jacket as it was so windy and hammering it down with rain. I also recall being a bit gutted as I’d creased the corner of the sleeve in my rush to get it home. I remember thinking it definitely had a newer more modern feel to it and that the lyrics seem to have a more personal and observational approach to them as opposed to Waters direct social commentary on subjects. It definitely felt at the time like it had more of a connection to Gilmour’s About Face ( which also suffers from the 80s production curse)than the Waters era Floyd. Still though, I think as a 16 year old, whose musical appetite was insatiable, I accepted that this was the 80s and all the 70s band had adopted the new production values. I ended up loving this album as much as all the other Floyd greats. I mean you could argue that it’s vastly superior to More, Atom Heart Mother and dare I say Ummagumma, all of which sit within various transitional periods of the bands history. The new remix definitely has a softer overall feel, but I’m not sure it resonates with me as much as I thought it would. Yikes, I actually think I prefer the original 80s mix in places .😮 my judgement may be slightly marred by my annoyance of having to change over my 45rpm half speed cut every 12 mins or so ( a pet hate of mine which takes away the enjoyment of being able to listen to a whole side of a record). Still , it’s the Floyd and I’m a sucker for any new ( or remixed ) versions of any of the bands back catalogue, so it’s always a joy to compare the significant differences. I’ll always go back to the original mix, which is not something I’d consider with Animals on acquiring its amazing remix. I’m guessing there’s a review of that on this channel. New to the channel and loving it. 🤟😎🙏
Not the worst PF album. I didn't like its 80's sounding in the beginning, but PF is about sonic exploration, and since then I've found it very interesting sounding. I got to listen to the 2019 version.
Great review, I wondered if Gilmour was aware of Depeche Modes popularity at the time and hence the production on the original album? Maybe an attempt to update Floyd and make it appeal to an 80's audience perhaps, who knows. I actually like Depeche Mode although I agree on the 80's sound. I think you either love it or you you dont. I think Gilmour and Co were back to their best on the Division Bell, High Hope's especially ranks highly in their huge list of great tracks
I think it's a pretty decent album , I've always loved Learning To Fly. One Slip is great , On The Turning Away and Dogs Of War are also pretty good. The follow up The Division Bell is the better album though as it's more consistent , with much more involvement from Richard Wright and Nick Mason.
I really like this album! Never been bothered with the sound. I like everything about the 80's production. And I dont get all this talk about sound nearly without emphasis on the songs itself! I have heard this too many times! Listen to the melodies! The melody comes first! "On the turning away" is the best track on the album! - And I do like reverb very much! It lifts the music to a higher level! Ok- That was my honest opinion!
Good fair review. You skipped One Slip, which I personally believe benefited the most from the remix. It is now for me a truly enjoyable song to listen to. I also think the new version of Terminal Frost is vastly improved mainly by Nick's drumming. I do also agree that Yet Another Movie is a vastly underated PF song. I've enjoyed the box set tremendously. I would imagine the new version of AMLOR will eventuallyget the stand alone release it deserves for the fans that can't afford the box set.
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I feel that this album lacked the great push/pull that the band had when actually working as a cohesive band unit. I love the remix. You perfectly described it as a seemingly lost album.
shame its only in the big box set! looking forward to teh new DSOT on friday though, so there is hope for it, maybe next christmas?(if not a meddle 50th with all the nothing demoes please
Thanks for the reasoned review. Made me take a listen to the "remix" which I think has some improvements on the original. Must say I forgot how good the sax work on this album was. A real highlight for me.
I'll definitely check out the new mix. The album always seemed to be a bit forced....like Gilmour & Co. were trying too hard to show they could be "Pink Floyd" without Roger. It's almost like a paint-by-numbers picture....or like it's from a well-worn musical script of sorts. Still, the album has always had some redeeming qualities for me. Excellent video. Thanks.
Unlike a lot of fans here I agree with you. The 80's production values were a cop out for a band like Pink Floyd. They should have pursued a timeless sound as in earlier albums. The songs are mostly good but should have been presented using authentic instrumentation. Thankfully the remix has redressed much of this.
I wasn't sure which album Endless River took leftovers from and was going to give MLR a re-listen. Turns out it was The Division Bell. Thanks for pointing me towards the remastered version. I have the prejudice that remasters are just inconsequential tweeks that a guy who really is not particular abt sound quality (like me) would miss.
I think Pink Floyd without waters era is a good one considering this album, division bell, and endless river are all very listenable albums and taking that into account i would argue they have done worse than those 3 albums.
I always loved this album.Mainly because Waters wasn't with them.It's not political either always thought he was an arrogant jerk since the 60s.There are severeal really good tracks on this.Always really like Gilmour's guitar and voice
I love the remix. I can think of quite a few 80s albums that could stand to have all the gated reverb removed. (I'm just as guilty, when I was a musician back then and used new tech, 99 percent of the time I went overboard.) My only nit picks are a drum fill that occurred 55 seconds in on the original version 'One Slip', and lowering Gilmour's classic guitar delay effect in the mix. That's a small price to pay though to have this album salvaged from the 80s graveyard.
I like both versions. Being a child of the 80s, I have a little more affection for some of the production, albeit a product of its time, it has a certain dynamic quality that seems a bit dulled in the new mix. Also, whilst the Hammond organ may sound timeless to one generation, it actually seems a bit dated to others. I’m glad both are still available, and in the end I generally agree the new version will be remembered as more timeless.
Also, worth mentioning that 80s production that so many of us roll our eyes at, is enjoying a surge in popularity with younger audiences who are enamoured by this period. I don’t think the somewhat glassy and impersonal feel of LPs such as Hound of Love or Songs from the Big Chair etc would be the same without the production they have. But nostalgia factors in as well I suppose. I do think that Division Bell is a more mature and timeless sounding record and a masterpiece as well.
This is going to sound insane but I completely agreed with your thoughts on Lapse, until a month ago, when, after not hearing it for 35 years, gave it a second chance and really enjoyed it. It is a Gilmour solo album though, and good point about the irony with them struggling to sound Floydian without Roger. I am shocked how much I like the new Dogs of War. It’s actually a good song now! Otherwise, I don’t think the new version of Lapse is necessarily better. Nick’s playing and fills are very basic, and I was hoping for more of Wright to shine through, but I’m glad we have both versions.
I've always had a soft spot for this album. On The Turning Away is my 2nd favorite Floyd song. Echoes being number 1. I think this remix only improved the album. It definitely sounds more like Pink Floyd.
I have mixed feelings about AMLOR which was the first PF album I bought on CD back in 1987. Back then I thought it sounded great but I have always missed Waters' and Wright's input. I hope the new remix will be released separately.
Look, people. Why on earth compare one album to another. Each album stands in its own time and place from the writers and players who WERE THERE, and not comparable to albums with people who weren't there. Worst, bad, mediocre, good, better, best -- are ALL descriptions of personal taste, not absolute values. Seroously, get over this pontificating bullshit.
I recently discovered an interesting interview with Gilmour which took place prior to their 1987 A Momentary Lapse Of Reason tour. My favorite part of the interview involved Waters' litigation against Gilmour and Mason and his predilection for taking all of the credit for Pink Floyd's immense success. GILMOUR: It's a joke, he won't stop us. There is no question about it, there is not really a struggle. I mean, there is a cute idea that, uh, that I keep reading about that he did it all and he wrote all sorts of songs that he didn't write...life's too short to sit around about those sorts of things. IMO, this 2019 remix lifts this album above most of Pink Floyd's pre-Meddle discography and is far superior to The Final Cut. Waters could only dream of composing the melodic soundscapes contained in One Slip, On The Turning Away, and Sorrow. Gilmour was probably thrilled that he didn't have to play bass (e.g., Animals: SHEEP, The Wall: HEY, YOU) on AMLOR.
I grew up with AMLOR and always liked it. I do agree, retrospectively the mix does sound 80s but hey, I even needed hairspray back in those days :) ... anyway, what I'm here to say is, "Sorrow" played live on many occasions is one of my all time favourites of Pink Floyd. And above that, this song has a timeless relevancy that gives me goosebumps listening to it in today's world. I personally can't go down into a discussion between Waters or Gilmour. Pink Floyd is the work of geniuses and I love listening to Roger's "Mother" in lockdown as I love listening to David's "Sorrow" live at Pompeii. All the best to everyone.
At the time, I liked the original release a lot more than you seemed to, although I did think the drumming was a bit "off". And I have continue to play it (or live versions of it) for all these years since the release. But I agree completely that the 2019 remix is a significant improvement, especially (to my ears) for _"Dogs of War"._ I have always felt this *could* have been a top-tier Pink Floyd album if they had left _"Learning to Fly"_ off of the album (leaving that as a stand-alone single and video for MTV), and then shored up the rest of the songs to fit in with the themes of _"Sorrow"._ I suspect it wouldn't have taken much to get it up to the level of DSotM and WYWH, although it'd still be lacking the aggressive bite of "Animals" and "The Wall".
I should add that at the exact time this was released I was house-sitting for a friend of mine who had an *amazing* stereo system in a room setup for listening to music, so that may have contributed to my enjoyment of the original release. 🙂
This album came out when I was at school and was the first floyd album I heard. Its weak in parts but Learning to fly, turning away and Sorrow are great tracks.
I've always loved this album. The newly remixed version is great but, there are tracks that originally sounded better than the new mix. Overall the new mix is a marked improvement but, they didn't completely drop the ball on the original.
The original version of Sorrow was much better than the new mix. I'm not sure how they managed to mess it up but, there's something missing from it that was magical before they endeavored to "fix" it.
@@patriotpizzaman I have not heard the new remixed version of “Sorrow”. How does it measure up to the “ Delicate Sound of Thunder” version? Seeing and hearing it Live during that tour was amazing!!!
@@chuckhutton5087 The remixed version of Sorrow (my favorite song from Momentary Lapse of Reason) is the only one that I think wasn't improved by the remix. In fact, I actually think they messed it up a bit. The guitar sounds like it's clipping too much and it didn't sound that way on the orignal. It's the one blemish on a very good remix. One of the best remixes I've heard done on any album I was a fan of.
I like Gilmour's solo albums and have always seen this album as a Gilmour album with Pink Floyd ( in name) as a way to sell it. And when I want to listen to Floyd I find myself going for the older albums before The Wall.
Me too as well except I really like The Division Bell. That said, I like AMLOR for what it is and refuse to become a music snob like a bunch of people on here seem to be. I like AMLOR because it is good in places and reminds me of my youth, a magical time, of course, I really didn't realize that at the time.
It's essentially a David Gilmour solo album but it does contain some good songs. Learning To Fly , Dogs Of War , On The Turning Away and One Slip are all decent. The rest is pretty much filler , I prefer The Division Bell.
AMLOR is not good. However, Learning to Fly & Yet Another Movie are excellent, as is Wright's live opening to On the Turning Away. The Division Bell album is great. Strong lyrically, superb musically. Even better than the WYWH album. Cluster 1, Poles Apart, Coming Back to Life, Lost for Words, High Hopes. DB has so many 30-60 second Gilmour solos on it that I lose count. Odd that DB is totally off the radar, even within the Pink Floyd fan community.
Always been a Floyd fan. I listened to AMLOR 50-60 times back in the day. I like it. Like with everything else, I compared AMLOR to everything, not just to past Pink Floyd. Funny we agreed totally on Yes and Tull, but here we differ.
I agree the lyrics have been lackluster after Waters left the band. I do see this album as a triumph for Pink Floyd though and there are some great songs on it. "Learning To Fly" is an especially good song. I also think embracing the soundscape of the 80's was a wise move for the band at the time. It gave a new generation, the MTV generation, their own Pink Floyd. It's not like they turned into "Jefferson Starship" or something. They just updated their sound and appearance a bit. Plus clearly Roger was driving them crazy. You can almost feel the weight off the bands shoulders when you watch "The Delicate Sound Of Thunder" concert. Purists knock PF for not being the same as they were but isn't that the point? Great video.
I was among the skeptics back then who couldn't imagine Floyd without Waters, and then I heard Signs of Life, On the Turning Away, Terminal Frost and Sorrow, and then saw them live.
Now I see Waters for what he is: a cantankerous old coot who screams at kids to get off his lawn.
Yet Another Movie and Sorrow are two of my favorite Pink Floyd songs ever and the 2019 remix is awesome making A Momentary Lapse of Reason one of the best PF albums ever.
IMO it's not fair or correct to completely dismiss AMLOR. Like most every album it has its high and low points.
Signs of Life, Learning to Fly, on The Turning Away and Sorrow are all exceptional. And even if they don't quite *sound* like The Wall or Animals, what's wrong with that? Would any PF fan say Saucerful of Secrets sounds like The Final Cut? Yet, this album always gets singled out for not sounding Floydian or as though it should have been a Gilmour solo effort.
Completely unfair and inaccurate IMO.
While it isn't the best PF album of all time it's not the monstrousity that some make it out to be.
"On The Turning Away" is pure garbage, nu additional or alternate guitars not even an extended ending for the solo...
what a disappointment...
I said I liked the album. .
‘On The Turning Away’ is one of the best Floyd numbers ever written - outstanding number.
@@RoverWaters Just because you don't like a track doesn't mean it is garbage, a lot of people like it, what songs have you written?
@@classicalbum You said you liked the remix, not necessarily the album.
How terribly unfair! AMLOR is a great album!
Why won't you redirect your harsh criticism to The final cut, a genuine bore, carved on vinyl by Waters almost alone, not worth the trouble, theirs or ours. The other members' contributions are minimal, and noboby who is a PF lover will even bother to play it.
AMLOR isn't a concept LP, almost a concept LP but not quite, and PF did not always issue concept albums. THey were always keen on coherent albums that fascinate us from beginning to end, and despised singles which are all about business and not Music as the art.
As for the remix I'll take your word for it, I look forward to owning and listening and enjoying the new 2019 remix.
You also contradict yourself every minute, you do not like the album AMLOR yet you seem to enjoy Delicate sound of thunder, both CD and video, according to your other videos, which, surprise of all surprises, IS mostly AMLOR played live plus some tracks from The Wall and WYWH. I suspect you suffered from a momentary lapse of something...? How come???
I often thought back in the day that from DSOTM onward Pink Floyd covered the five stages of grief; anger (Animals) bargaining (WYWH) denial (DSOTM) and depression (The Wall) and with 'A Momentary Lapse of Reason' I think that the Roger-less Pink Floyd discovered the last stage of grief; acceptance. Dave Nick and Rick certainly accepted each other more readily than Roger accepted anything at the time.
That's an interesting take
I think this is a very good Floyd album. Better than any solo work Waters has done.
This album had more stadium-ready energy to it than the sleepy The Division Bell. I’m in the minority, but I’ve always liked it.
I love both of those, with Momentary having more of a primal hold on me going back to my early teen years, and Division being a much more "objectively" masterful recording and tasteful mix, and more in line with Floyd's typical sound, for better or worse depending on one's ear I guess
Thanks for the review. I have always enjoyed some of the songs. On The Turning Away is a favorite.
Though I prefer The Division Bell, a momentary lapse of reason is a gorgeous album with very haunting and mystical sounds that are reminiscent of a dream that you can’t escape but you know it’s a dream.
For me the appeal of this album (discovered when I was probably about 15) was always it's feeling of being a totally isolated, futuristic, depersonalized, existentially despairing, machine-like music, which both the technology of the time and the reality of Dave's isolated and uncertain period of recording it made possible. I always thought Dogs of War stunk, regardless of the mix haha, but everything else was and still is gold to me, and the sometimes inappropriately punching drum sounds, squealing "dentist" guitar, and expansive reverb almost to parody levels somehow all work together to give a feeling of, what felt to me at the time and still kind of does, like Sartre-in-sound. Which, was completely my headspace as a teenager, and I can still kind of fall back into. Also I am a total X Files fanboy and have been for like 25 years, and I get some of the same impressions of cosmic dread from both pieces of art
great review as always, going to have to listen to these again like you said back to back
I love your channel! One of the best on UA-cam. After watching your review I was able to find someone selling the remix for the album on eBay. I don't have the funds right now to order the box set.
Thank you for your kind words...
Unfortunately Waters and Gilmour
aren't getting on at all lately. I happen to love this album for
the very reason of Roger poisoning the well and the
band making an album anyway.
I always loved that album was extremely 80s sounding. Its just kinda eerie and creepy sounding. I find out you love yet another movie as I consider that to be one of the most 80s sounding track on the album. I think the album has a massive sound and a cool mystique.
For me the appeal of this album (discovered when I was probably about 15) was always it's feeling of being a totally isolated, futuristic, depersonalized, existentially despairing, machine-like music, which both the technology of the time and the reality of Dave's isolated and uncertain period of recording it made possible. I always thought Dogs of War stunk, regardless of the mix haha, but everything else was and still is gold to me, and the sometimes inappropriately punching drum sounds, squealing "dentist" guitar, and expansive reverb almost to parody levels somehow all work together to give a feeling of, what felt to me at the time and still kind of does, like Sartre-in-sound. Which, was completely my headspace as a teenager, and I can still kind of fall back into.
I've always liked this album Roger Waters or not.
To me this album surpasses anything Roger has done solo. His solo stuff sucks.
Me too
As a long time Floyd fan, I was pleasantly surprised at the under looked quality of this album, all things considered. And yes, Yet another Movie is a convincing factor in keeping this album afloat. But I also love the opening track, Signs of
Life. I get that it's hardly comparative to the Floyd of the 70s, but I'd always been encouraged by the efforts of this comeback album.
This album is one of my favourites by pink floyd
Love this album ! Actually prefer the original recordings personally
I just wanna add that I personally LOVE a
"A New Machine" and "Terminal Frost".
I absolutely love the impersonal electronic 80s production.
Each to their own
its how it should be done thay were the sound mechanics
For me the appeal of this album (discovered when I was probably about 15) was always it's feeling of being a totally isolated, futuristic, depersonalized, existentially despairing, machine-like music, which both the technology of the time and the reality of Dave's isolated and uncertain period of recording it made possible. I always thought Dogs of War stunk, regardless of the mix haha, but everything else was and still is gold to me, and the sometimes inappropriately punching drum sounds, squealing "dentist" guitar, and expansive reverb almost to parody levels somehow all work together to give a feeling of, what felt to me at the time and still kind of does, like Sartre-in-sound. Which, was completely my headspace as a teenager, and I can still kind of fall back into.
Sorrow is one of my favourite songs from the band
It's a very good album; people have always been too hard on it.
I like the new mix
@@classicalbum After seeing your review I look forward to checking it out!
I hope they’ll release this remix on its own for those of us who couldn’t afford the big box set
Isn't it on Spotify etc.?
I just checked Spotify. Search "The Later Years".
It's on here.
ua-cam.com/play/OLAK5uy_kTFhuTn151cB31Xe95TGTYgRyXmJ533O4.html
hopefully next year maybe
This is no more a Gilmour solo LP than Final Cut is a Waters solo LP.
At least other members played on Final Cut.
Ken Hernandez Rick didn’t
@@Lucashjohnsen But Gilmour and Mason did. So your comment is irrelevant.
@@kenhernandez8128 Lol k
I mean... yeah
The previous album, The Final Cut, is an absolutely God awful depressing Roger Waters dirge, played by Pink Floyd. This one, A Momentary Lapse of Reason, is a David Gilmour collection, of good songs and instrumentals, played by Pink Floyd. These two albums serve to demonstrate just how far apart Waters and Gilmour were, musically and in attitude to life in the early 1980’s. I have all PF albums (including TFC 🙄) and I must say I do quite like AMLOR.
I love this album. Both versions. And I understand that places in me in the minority of people’s reactions to this record. That said, this remix is the superior of the two and does transform it from what was basically a Gilmour solo project to a Floyd record. The drums… spot on. Great vid as always. Many thanks.
Thank you. This is the first floyd albm I owned and the one that got me into them back in 1987. The live versions on DSoT really make the songs on this album come to life. In any case, that hammond organ in the 2019 version of One Slip is just phenomenal.
Wow what a revelation and research chapter 25 the grapes of wrath ties to Sorrow song
I just ordered this new remix and glad that it is worth exploring thanks for the review
Hope you enjoy it!
Great video, Barry. It will be interesting to hear this remaster, although this album is a bit patchy for me. It has its good moments, though. Like all your videos, very enjoyable and informative.
I hesitate to call this a "remix." I refer to it as a "re-imagining." Re-recording drum parts, and flying in Rick's keyboard parts from live shows (and Gilmour's vocals, for that matter) goes way beyond a remix.This presents a couple of problems for me:
Every album is of the era in which it was recorded. I've heard people say that earlier works like Dark Side sound "timeless." Even then, bands used the best available techniques, and the Floyd were known for sonic "perfection." But when I listen to it, it sounds like it was recorded in the early 70's. That being said, my first musical loves were 80's new wave and pop. So the "pop sheen" on Momentary Lapse doesn't distract me from the songs.
On the same note, some of the songs on the re-imagining suffer from the different drum sound and lack of big 80's reverb, in my opinion. Songs like Yet Another Movie and Terminal Frost were built around a big, reverby drum soundscape; when you take that away, it changes the whole dynamic of the song. Sure, the drums sound like you're in a cozy room with them on the remix, but it doesn't fit with everything else that's going on and pulls me out of the song.
For me, this re-imaging is a curiosity, like the re-recording of Money on A Collection of Great Dance Songs. Is it fun to listen to occasionally? Sure. Will it replace the original for me? No.
Thank you for your review! It's always interesting to hear other people's measured opinions.....
Well said. My sentiments exactly.
For me the appeal of this album (discovered when I was probably about 15) was always it's feeling of being a totally isolated, futuristic, depersonalized, existentially despairing, machine-like music, which both the technology of the time and the reality of Dave's isolated and uncertain period of recording it made possible. I always thought Dogs of War stunk, regardless of the mix haha, but everything else was and still is gold to me, and the sometimes inappropriately punching drum sounds, squealing "dentist" guitar, and expansive reverb almost to parody levels somehow all work together to give a feeling of, what felt to me at the time and still kind of does, like Sartre-in-sound. Which, was completely my headspace as a teenager, and I can still kind of fall back into.
I gave the revised tracks a try, and they're a hit-and-miss for me. The production on the tracks is very good, for the most part. And so are the keyboards. I didn't like the dry sound of the drums, though. Some of the mixing is an acquired taste as well. I like that they tried to make the album a more "timeless" effort but to be honest, I was a bit disappointed with the end result. It's not _awful,_ but I will have to stick with the original one, sorry to say. After all, I appreciate the LP for what it _was,_ not what it _could_ have been.
Well said....
For me the appeal of this album (discovered when I was probably about 15) was always it's feeling of being a totally isolated, futuristic, depersonalized, existentially despairing, machine-like music, which both the technology of the time and the reality of Dave's isolated and uncertain period of recording it made possible. I always thought Dogs of War stunk, regardless of the mix haha, but everything else was and still is gold to me, and the sometimes inappropriately punching drum sounds, squealing "dentist" guitar, and expansive reverb almost to parody levels somehow all work together to give a feeling of, what felt to me at the time and still kind of does, like Sartre-in-sound. Which, was completely my headspace as a teenager, and I can still kind of fall back into.
I just get the Cd Blue Ray and Double vinyl edition. I think it’s hey did a very enjoyable improvement. I’m agree with your comments. Regards from Monterrey, Mexico. 🇲🇽
I think it is a very good Album. Learning to Fly, Sorrow and On the Turning Away are killer-tracks that I love. An I prefer this album so much over the sleeping-pill "Division Bell" which really lacks fast and rocking songs.
Division bell is great when in the mood for chill music, I don't consider anything by floyd to be overly fast or heavy.
Division Bell is great to put on while romancing a lady. They go crazy for that album.
I like both for different reasons, and could never pick between them I don't think
@@williamthompson5504 They should REALLY go crazy for On an Island then haha. And that is NOT a slam, I love that solo album too
I have just listened to this remix for the first time. As a fan of the 87 version despite all the cold reverb and gigantic gated snares; I found the remix an uncomfortable sonic portmanteau. I freely admit that 35 years of audiating the original and one listen of the remix is not an unbiased position for objective appraisal. In my heart however; I do prefer a version that represents the skills of Gilmour, Wright and Mason more fully, so I’m glad it exists and will keep listening.
Great channel by the way, looking forward to checking out your other content.
Just finished listening to the AMLOR remix 5.1 dts master Blu Ray from the box set. It was truly an amazing experience. If you have a quality HiFi with surround sound this is definitely worth a listen.
Very good, thorough review of this album. I agree with your assessment of it and I much appreciate your take on what might be an overall concept of this album. Really great thought of yours. I suscribed to your channel too.
Thanks...
Good review. I like your choice of words. The drum track on Sorrow however was not redone by Nick Mason it is still the same programmed drum track with just less processing. If you listen carefully the fills are identical!
Hello. I really enjoy your channel. Sorry if I missed it but how are you listening to the new mix of this record? I thought this was only available through the box set, which is out of my price range have always liked this record, although the 80s production does wear thin quickly. Thanks for the review
Yes I'm talking about the new mix, which I really like. I was lucky enough to know someone who put it on mp3 for me
Thanks for the reply. I thought I may have missed a stand-alone release.
Hi. A fair review, although I think I like it better than you do ... it harks back to some memorable university moments for me! But you're right about the dreadful 80's production, and that has always grated with me. Do you know if the 2019 Remix is available on its own, or only as part of the 'Later Years' collection? I am struggling to find it ... plenty of the 2017 version around, though.
You have motivated me to give this mix a listen. The original has always been heavily criticised by myself and 90% of my peers as being a dull 80's "David Gilmour Band" mind you we are all born in the 90's, are musicians and loathe the mainstream production of the 1980s.
I cannot think of a time where I've listened to the whole album without skipping a couple of tracks and very rarely have I even wanted to put it on despite Pink Floyd being one of my favourite bands. Perhaps it is worth adding to my agenda as I've been recently comparing King Crimson's recent remixes, sounds like I'd have a lot more to say about this album than those.
I have always had a soft spot for this album. I get why people don't like it, but it came out at the perfect time for me and has a lot of nostalgia value for me. It probably also helps that I've never been a huge fan of the band. :) Thanks for the review!
I think many more people actually do like it (even hardcore PF fans), although it's not cool to admit it.
@@leesaiga1785 I liked it, it was of it's time and quite frankly was all the better for not having Roger around, I actually think you could scrap half of the Wall and it would be a better album, the last good album with Roger was Animals but that is elevated because of David and Ricks performances, I was watching an interview with Guy Pratt and he said that whilst Roger was all about the concept and ideas David had even played bass on tracks over the years and there are stories that David stepped in and played drums as well.
I like it now - just not the original mix.
@@classicalbum I applaud you for having keen hearing to pick up the nuances and changing of things which remixing provides. I have not heard the 2019 remix but was just fine with the original AMLOR. I love your review style, and am a subscriber. Great work as always!
My first Floyd album was "Wish You Were Here"...which didn't grab me, but I liked it enough to try again. I had remembered seeing "Learning To Fly" on MTV as a kid, and thought it was great. I never forgot about it. So I picked up this album next and thought it was pretty amazing. I would soon go on to discover better albums like "Dark Side...," "Meddle," and "Piper At the Gates..." and became hooked on Floyd. But probably wouldn't have had it not been for this album. It encouraged me to keep looking into Floyd's catalogue. This was back in the days of CDs, when I had to order most of my music over mail orders. Although I believe I found this album on cassette at K-Mart! Those were the days...
I can see the criticisms now, but at the time I thought nothing of it. Every Floyd album has it's own character and personality, and this album is no exception. But I admit I probably like it more than it deserves. But "Momentary..." was my "first love" when it came to Floyd's catalogue.
Jon Carin’s keyboard work makes this album shine!
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Thank you so very much for drawing my attention to this. Due to the pricetag I usually don't bother even to take notice of any of those big box bundle sets. But thankfully Pink Floyd made this AMLOR remix available through UA-cam, so I listened. And wow! The album certainly never was in my top 13 list of PF albums for all the very reasons you and everybody else has so rightfuly described. But this felt like listening to a completely new Pink Floyd album, they sound as floydish as any band without Roger Waters can possibly sound when having Gilmour, Mason and Wright among themselves.
David was great when it came to producing rhythm, mysticism, and melody, but Roger always brought emotion, order, and perfection to each record. I speculate Waters and Gilmore were codependent when making albums, one has something the other needs enable to bring the music to life.
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Nah, David doesn't need that anti-Semitic POS.
I agree, the remixed album is very much superior. Learning to Fly has lost an important KB part but that's the only down side of the whole project for me. The original version can now gather dust.
Barry, the remix/updated version pushed the album into my Top 10 All Time Favorite Pink Floyd albums. Nick playing all of the drums on the album except for Sorrow which still has the drum machine for some reason. Now Rick is on the whole album on keyboards and sounds more natural.
The Animals Remix was a hatchet job with some tracks badly altered (Pigs and Sheep were altered for the worse and also Dogs was botched with the high synth notes coming in now a beat late rather than on the acoustic guitar chord changes).
I wish they'd release this on its own - I'd bloody LOVE to buy this as a vinyl.
This album was good..but missed Waters....Water's solo albums at the time were good but missed Floyd...it was painfully obvious on both ends...
I have a lot of sentimental memories invested in AMLOR. I can remember the very day I ran to my local record store ( it was actually a little market stall) where I’d pre-ordered it. I remember running home with it in my jacket as it was so windy and hammering it down with rain. I also recall being a bit gutted as I’d creased the corner of the sleeve in my rush to get it home. I remember thinking it definitely had a newer more modern feel to it and that the lyrics seem to have a more personal and observational approach to them as opposed to Waters direct social commentary on subjects. It definitely felt at the time like it had more of a connection to Gilmour’s About Face ( which also suffers from the 80s production curse)than the Waters era Floyd. Still though, I think as a 16 year old, whose musical appetite was insatiable, I accepted that this was the 80s and all the 70s band had adopted the new production values. I ended up loving this album as much as all the other Floyd greats. I mean you could argue that it’s vastly superior to More, Atom Heart Mother and dare I say Ummagumma, all of which sit within various transitional periods of the bands history. The new remix definitely has a softer overall feel, but I’m not sure it resonates with me as much as I thought it would. Yikes, I actually think I prefer the original 80s mix in places .😮 my judgement may be slightly marred by my annoyance of having to change over my 45rpm half speed cut every 12 mins or so ( a pet hate of mine which takes away the enjoyment of being able to listen to a whole side of a record). Still , it’s the Floyd and I’m a sucker for any new ( or remixed ) versions of any of the bands back catalogue, so it’s always a joy to compare the significant differences. I’ll always go back to the original mix, which is not something I’d consider with Animals on acquiring its amazing remix. I’m guessing there’s a review of that on this channel. New to the channel and loving it. 🤟😎🙏
Not the worst PF album. I didn't like its 80's sounding in the beginning, but PF is about sonic exploration, and since then I've found it very interesting sounding. I got to listen to the 2019 version.
Great review, I wondered if Gilmour was aware of Depeche Modes popularity at the time and hence the production on the original album? Maybe an attempt to update Floyd and make it appeal to an 80's audience perhaps, who knows. I actually like Depeche Mode although I agree on the 80's sound. I think you either love it or you you dont. I think Gilmour and Co were back to their best on the Division Bell, High Hope's especially ranks highly in their huge list of great tracks
I like it now it's been re-mixed
@@classicalbum I'd have to give it a proper listen, is it available individually without the box set, I hear that's rather expensive
@@alfietomkins2453 if you have Amazon Music, check this out.
@@apr8189 that's great thanks, I'd like to hear the remix in full, if my kids will let me :-)
I think it's a pretty decent album , I've always loved Learning To Fly. One Slip is great , On The Turning Away and Dogs Of War are also pretty good. The follow up The Division Bell is the better album though as it's more consistent , with much more involvement from Richard Wright and Nick Mason.
I really like this album! Never been bothered with the sound. I like everything about the 80's production. And I dont get all this talk about sound nearly without emphasis on the songs itself! I have heard this too many times! Listen to the melodies! The melody comes first! "On the turning away" is the best track on the album! - And I do like reverb very much! It lifts the music to a higher level! Ok- That was my honest opinion!
Good fair review. You skipped One Slip, which I personally believe benefited the most from the remix. It is now for me a truly enjoyable song to listen to. I also think the new version of Terminal Frost is vastly improved mainly by Nick's drumming. I do also agree that Yet Another Movie is a vastly underated PF song. I've enjoyed the box set tremendously. I would imagine the new version of AMLOR will eventuallyget the stand alone release it deserves for the fans that can't afford the box set.
Sounds so much better.. listening now and it’s so refreshing
Just found a podcast called "A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs" by one Andrew Hickey. Sir - I do not know your name but I am positive it is your voice I am hearing in this wonderful podcast. Am I correct?
It's not my voice, but I must check out the podcast.
Thank you for mentioning Yet Another Movie, couldn't agree more
I feel that this album lacked the great push/pull that the band had when actually working as a cohesive band unit.
I love the remix. You perfectly described it as a seemingly lost album.
shame its only in the big box set! looking forward to teh new DSOT on friday though, so there is hope for it, maybe next christmas?(if not a meddle 50th with all the nothing demoes please
Thanks for the reasoned review. Made me take a listen to the "remix" which I think has some improvements on the original. Must say I forgot how good the sax work on this album was. A real highlight for me.
I love the title song.
The wife isn't keep on the line, 'down the hole you fall' 😂
Graet album cover. Underated album. I love it.
Surely Yet Another Movie, was written for the Two Moon Junction movie? The lyrics seem very specific to that movie storyline?
I'll definitely check out the new mix. The album always seemed to be a bit forced....like Gilmour & Co. were trying too hard to show they could be "Pink Floyd" without Roger. It's almost like a paint-by-numbers picture....or like it's from a well-worn musical script of sorts. Still, the album has always had some redeeming qualities for me. Excellent video. Thanks.
Where exactly do you get this version? I can only find the 2011 remix.
I borrowed a copy from someone who had the box set
So is this remix only available in the Later Years boxset? A shame if so, because I'd really like to hear it without having to spend $370.
Michael Goodall it’s out there, if you know where to look 😉
Unlike a lot of fans here I agree with you. The 80's production values were a cop out for a band like Pink Floyd. They should have pursued a timeless sound as in earlier albums. The songs are mostly good but should have been presented using authentic instrumentation. Thankfully the remix has redressed much of this.
It's nice to have the updated version, but it's not the same without the drum machines! I miss the removed synth parts.
Very nice review, too bad I am not ready to pay all that cash for the box set, take care!
I wasn't sure which album Endless River took leftovers from and was going to give MLR a re-listen. Turns out it was The Division Bell. Thanks for pointing me towards the remastered version. I have the prejudice that remasters are just inconsequential tweeks that a guy who really is not particular abt sound quality (like me) would miss.
I think Pink Floyd without waters era is a good one considering this album, division bell, and endless river are all very listenable albums and taking that into account i would argue they have done worse than those 3 albums.
I rather like the new mix of this, and I'm a big fan of the 'Division Bell'
I always loved this album.Mainly because Waters wasn't with them.It's not political either always thought he was an arrogant jerk since the 60s.There are severeal really good tracks on this.Always really like Gilmour's guitar and voice
I love rubbish because Waters is not in the rubbish
Is the version that you discuss here only available as part of "THE LATER YEARS" box set?
I believe so, but I'm hoping for a smaller version of the box set.
This is the record (CD) which introduced me to Pink Floyd. Seen Clapton play twice. But DG is my favourite axeman.
I love the remix. I can think of quite a few 80s albums that could stand to have all the gated reverb removed. (I'm just as guilty, when I was a musician back then and used new tech, 99 percent of the time I went overboard.)
My only nit picks are a drum fill that occurred 55 seconds in on the original version 'One Slip', and lowering Gilmour's classic guitar delay effect in the mix. That's a small price to pay though to have this album salvaged from the 80s graveyard.
I like both versions. Being a child of the 80s, I have a little more affection for some of the production, albeit a product of its time, it has a certain dynamic quality that seems a bit dulled in the new mix. Also, whilst the Hammond organ may sound timeless to one generation, it actually seems a bit dated to others. I’m glad both are still available, and in the end I generally agree the new version will be remembered as more timeless.
Also, worth mentioning that 80s production that so many of us roll our eyes at, is enjoying a surge in popularity with younger audiences who are enamoured by this period. I don’t think the somewhat glassy and impersonal feel of LPs such as Hound of Love or Songs from the Big Chair etc would be the same without the production they have. But nostalgia factors in as well I suppose. I do think that Division Bell is a more mature and timeless sounding record and a masterpiece as well.
This is going to sound insane but I completely agreed with your thoughts on Lapse, until a month ago, when, after not hearing it for 35 years, gave it a second chance and really enjoyed it. It is a Gilmour solo album though, and good point about the irony with them struggling to sound Floydian without Roger. I am shocked how much I like the new Dogs of War. It’s actually a good song now! Otherwise, I don’t think the new version of Lapse is necessarily better. Nick’s playing and fills are very basic, and I was hoping for more of Wright to shine through, but I’m glad we have both versions.
I've always had a soft spot for this album. On The Turning Away is my 2nd favorite Floyd song. Echoes being number 1. I think this remix only improved the album. It definitely sounds more like Pink Floyd.
Echoes and OtTA
What a poor guy
I actually like MLOR as released, though I agree it ain't no DSOTM. I didn't know about the rerelease, so was very happy to see this video!
If you haven't heard the remixed and updated version of A Momentary Lapse of Reason, check this out. Sounds a million times better in my opinion.
I have mixed feelings about AMLOR which was the first PF album I bought on CD back in 1987. Back then I thought it sounded great but I have always missed Waters' and Wright's input. I hope the new remix will be released separately.
It's in my top 5 Floyd records to listen to.
Look, people. Why on earth compare one album to another. Each album stands in its own time and place from the writers and players who WERE THERE, and not comparable to albums with people who weren't there.
Worst, bad, mediocre, good, better, best -- are ALL descriptions of personal taste, not absolute values. Seroously, get over this pontificating bullshit.
Love this album 💿
Calling _A Momentary Lapse of Reason_ a classic album is intellectually dishonest.
I recently discovered an interesting interview with Gilmour which took place prior to their 1987 A Momentary Lapse Of Reason tour. My favorite part of the interview involved Waters' litigation against Gilmour and Mason and his predilection for taking all of the credit for Pink Floyd's immense success.
GILMOUR: It's a joke, he won't stop us. There is no question about it, there is not really a struggle. I mean, there is a cute idea that, uh, that I keep reading about that he did it all and he wrote all sorts of songs that he didn't write...life's too short to sit around about those sorts of things.
IMO, this 2019 remix lifts this album above most of Pink Floyd's pre-Meddle discography and is far superior to The Final Cut. Waters could only dream of composing the melodic soundscapes contained in One Slip, On The Turning Away, and Sorrow. Gilmour was probably thrilled that he didn't have to play bass (e.g., Animals: SHEEP, The Wall: HEY, YOU) on AMLOR.
I grew up with AMLOR and always liked it. I do agree, retrospectively the mix does sound 80s but hey, I even needed hairspray back in those days :) ... anyway, what I'm here to say is, "Sorrow" played live on many occasions is one of my all time favourites of Pink Floyd. And above that, this song has a timeless relevancy that gives me goosebumps listening to it in today's world. I personally can't go down into a discussion between Waters or Gilmour. Pink Floyd is the work of geniuses and I love listening to Roger's "Mother" in lockdown as I love listening to David's "Sorrow" live at Pompeii. All the best to everyone.
At the time, I liked the original release a lot more than you seemed to, although I did think the drumming was a bit "off". And I have continue to play it (or live versions of it) for all these years since the release. But I agree completely that the 2019 remix is a significant improvement, especially (to my ears) for _"Dogs of War"._
I have always felt this *could* have been a top-tier Pink Floyd album if they had left _"Learning to Fly"_ off of the album (leaving that as a stand-alone single and video for MTV), and then shored up the rest of the songs to fit in with the themes of _"Sorrow"._ I suspect it wouldn't have taken much to get it up to the level of DSotM and WYWH, although it'd still be lacking the aggressive bite of "Animals" and "The Wall".
I should add that at the exact time this was released I was house-sitting for a friend of mine who had an *amazing* stereo system in a room setup for listening to music, so that may have contributed to my enjoyment of the original release. 🙂
This album came out when I was at school and was the first floyd album I heard. Its weak in parts but Learning to fly, turning away and Sorrow are great tracks.
Hearing David Gilmour and band perform Sorrow live in 2016 at Arenes de Nimes in France was one of the biggest highlights of my life!
It was a concert.
i.always.liked.the.album.it.was.made.in.the.80.s.its.got.the.eights.sound.excepted.leave.it.alone..good.rview.though
I've always loved this album. The newly remixed version is great but, there are tracks that originally sounded better than the new mix. Overall the new mix is a marked improvement but, they didn't completely drop the ball on the original.
The original version of Sorrow was much better than the new mix. I'm not sure how they managed to mess it up but, there's something missing from it that was magical before they endeavored to "fix" it.
@@patriotpizzaman I have not heard the new remixed version of “Sorrow”. How does it measure up to the “ Delicate Sound of Thunder” version? Seeing and hearing it Live during that tour was amazing!!!
@@chuckhutton5087 The remixed version of Sorrow (my favorite song from Momentary Lapse of Reason) is the only one that I think wasn't improved by the remix. In fact, I actually think they messed it up a bit. The guitar sounds like it's clipping too much and it didn't sound that way on the orignal. It's the one blemish on a very good remix. One of the best remixes I've heard done on any album I was a fan of.
Great T-shirt!
I dig the remix too. First time AMLOR has been listenable and enjoyable for me.
I like Gilmour's solo albums and have always seen this album as a Gilmour album with Pink Floyd ( in name) as a way to sell it. And when I want to listen to Floyd I find myself going for the older albums before The Wall.
Me too as well except I really like The Division Bell. That said, I like AMLOR for what it is and refuse to become a music snob like a bunch of people on here seem to be. I like AMLOR because it is good in places and reminds me of my youth, a magical time, of course, I really didn't realize that at the time.
Gilmore redefines Floyd in his solo albums. A classic album.
It's essentially a David Gilmour solo album but it does contain some good songs. Learning To Fly , Dogs Of War , On The Turning Away and One Slip are all decent. The rest is pretty much filler , I prefer The Division Bell.
AMLOR is not good. However, Learning to Fly & Yet Another Movie are excellent, as is Wright's live opening to On the Turning Away.
The Division Bell album is great. Strong lyrically, superb musically. Even better than the WYWH album. Cluster 1, Poles Apart, Coming Back to Life, Lost for Words, High Hopes. DB has so many 30-60 second Gilmour solos on it that I lose count. Odd that DB is totally off the radar, even within the Pink Floyd fan community.
My friend helped put those beds out on the beach not all of them, but you can't beat a floyd cover they certainly capture the essence of the band.
Always been a Floyd fan. I listened to AMLOR 50-60 times back in the day. I like it. Like with everything else, I compared AMLOR to everything, not just to past Pink Floyd. Funny we agreed totally on Yes and Tull, but here we differ.
I agree the lyrics have been lackluster after Waters left the band. I do see this album as a triumph for Pink Floyd though and there are some great songs on it. "Learning To Fly" is an especially good song. I also think embracing the soundscape of the 80's was a wise move for the band at the time. It gave a new generation, the MTV generation, their own Pink Floyd. It's not like they turned into "Jefferson Starship" or something. They just updated their sound and appearance a bit. Plus clearly Roger was driving them crazy. You can almost feel the weight off the bands shoulders when you watch "The Delicate Sound Of Thunder" concert. Purists knock PF for not being the same as they were but isn't that the point? Great video.
Well said 👍