The box was a lot of fun.... and overall, you manage to get me thinking even further about what I want to represent in my painting and ... how!. Thank you Albert.
Thanks, Emmanuel. Painting is so much more interesting when thinking along these lines or others , instead of just painting a picture. Have a good day, Albert
I think this is one of the most important video I’ve seen. You have reminded me how abstract art is painted. Thank you so much, I’ve been searching for answers, and you answered them😊
Thanks, Moe26, for your kind words. But there is no 'one' way to paint abstract, there are several. All equally important. Anyway, happy painting. Albert
Excellent video Albert. I'm a big fan of Joan Mitchell too. She had really good color conception and coordination. I enjoy when you include clips of traveling thru the landscape. Makes me want to put on my traveling shoes. Be well.
Thanks, Culture Fan. Yes, her colors and coordination are beyond my abilities. But I love her artwork. The cycling pieces are especially for you😉 Albert
I am glad I discovered your channel. I love painting myself and occasionally wish I could paint abstracts. I don’t always understand why one artist’s works sell for millions and others for pennies but you have helped me understand different artists and my favorite video so far was the collage video. Thanks for educating me!
Thanks, Maria. Painting abstract is, in my opinion, a matter of doing. When you think your painting is finished, place it somewhere in your room where you can look at it frequently. Ask yourself what you like about it or what it is missing. Or if you could change one thing, what would it be? Or what do you feel when looking at it. At first, it can be a bit strange, but belief me, you will come up with answers. See it as decorating your living room, the table overhere makes it specious, overthere the opposite. You move around until you're happy. Painting can be, in a way, done the same. Hope this helps.
@@ImperfectPaintings your comment made me smile...I love your video I think it has been two years since I subscribed...I don't get enough of your video when I get the chance I watch
I learn so much from your art narratives and appreciate abstract art much better because of them, but I do still struggle with how abstract strokes of paint on a canvas can be worth so much money. The quick "orange" study you painted was quite beautiful as well, but you would never expect it to be worth millions. If the name Joan Mitchell (or any famous artist) was not associated with those same paintings, they would be difficult to sell, let alone be worth so much. It's one of the quandaries that makes it difficult for me to fully appreciate this art style. I certainly do love your channel though and look forward to every new video., thank you Albert!
Thanks, My3babies. I totally agree with you on art auction prices like several millions. A dead painter always will let the prices go up, what is strange. It means a shortage determines the prices, which, in fact, has nothing to do with art. Who becomes famous has almost never any connection to the art, but just which style is in demand at that time. Or who knows who in the art world. But the art of Joan Mitchell goes way beyond my orange-painting. It's more a quick sketch to explain. If you ever happen to be in front of one of her paintings, please take a seat and spend a few minutes with it. They are worth your time. Albert
It might help to think about it from this perspective. I've overheard many people new to art and even myself early on, turn their nose up at pieces like Tracey Emins "my bed" Malevich's black square, and as you mentioned some of the more abstract painters like Jeff Koons, Joan Mitchell or Cy Towmbly. For many of these artist the criticism is that "anybody could do that" usually with the adage of "my child" But it is the fact that these artists were the first to present those works in an gallery space, the same way that duchamp positioned the urinal that challenges conventions of what is and what isnt art. Is a painting still art if the subject isn't immediately obvious, its on a canvas, it uses a brush. For many the reason these pieces sell for such high values is because as you pass them in your home or re-visit them in a gallery they will continue to offer new ways of seeing and new possibilities. The more abstract the more infinite the interpretations and so in this way abstract offer more than figurative or portraits or landscapes Additionally if art is about representation then the choice to not paint realistically becomes a statement in itself. Essentially its all a spectrum. For the abstract painter there process actually IS the most accurate representation of the mood or emotion or themes they're trying to show. Being more direct might limit their ability to articulate
Thanks, X-1A2 Z. I guess we mix two discussions here. Unfamiliar art and high art prices. I find 20 mln or more for a painting quite strange. Especially because the pieces almost never are bought from the artists itself but from 'collectors'. It's a market, and some products are more in demand than others. Just as rare cars, koi fishes, or other items. Personally, I love artists who do things for the first time, all the names you mentioned. I love them all. I never get the argument 'my cat can do this' because it's beside the point. Even a single mark, line, or stain can be brilliant. But I don't like that some rich people like little boys are comparing who wins in bidding or collecting the most marbles or paintings. By doing so, create the illusion that one artist is more valuable or important or better than another. I hope I explained it like this correctly. Albert
@@ImperfectPaintings This is a beautiful reply. I completely agree and was going to add in to my comment the problems with art being used for financial purposes such as laundering money or evading taxes or even purely as an investment with no regard to the piece itself. I also agree that the difficulty or technicality of art, or even the age of the author has nothing to do with its value. I find the most interesting question surrounding the value of art to be intent. Best shown in the film art school confidential. How do we perceive the value of an accident, where the outcome was not intended. There are beautiful results in abstraction and surrealism where chance is a huge component. However lets say an artist finishes a piece and someone asks "oh I love how you've painted X theme, did you mean to do X part on purpose?" now lets say that person totally misunderstood the artists intentions but because the audience sees value they say "oh yes, you've guess it, thats exactly what I was going for" This is a poor representation of my point but I hope it makes sense. I think intent can be very important
This video was so interesting to me. As you were abstract painting the orange and you explanation of what the colors represented it made complete sense. I could even feel it through the colors. Wow! Thank you.
Another inspiring video at the right time for me. I love abstract so much. Your videos definitely spark of my imagination when I have a block. Thank you
First impression: garden ... thank You for helping me appreciate Mitchell's art work-it all makes sense! there is NO " better than mine" ... there is only "my happiness".
@@ImperfectPaintings wow; i get what this is! Thank You for introducing yet another Great Artist who was hidden from us by the Power Dominant ... inspiring!
Another artist I had never heard of. When you asked what words came into my mind when I looked at the works, my word was ‘whatever’. I watched the two videos as well. I remember the quote about ‘if art was at the centre of her life , life was at the centre of her art’. I also like what one of the women said about her work challenging the whole notion of ,composition. I found it all intriguingly numinous and perhaps musical too. Thanks Albert.
Thanks, Clare. It was so nice to hear you watch the two other videos as well. Besides my two cents, they give a broader perspective to it all. Lots of people don't know her 'because she was a woman' ... sigh. I really hope we get past those stupid mechanisms in society very soon. Intriguing arr, intriguing artist. Albert
Albert, your painting of an orange is brilliant. For a long time I have been puzzling about how one would express the IDEA of a rose; you have just resolved my dilemma - it is about my personal experience of it, not only about the object itself - seems so simple now … 😳🌹🍊😋
My reaction to the painting? Where's my crayons? I still love crayons! All those bright colors and the fun of using crayons inspires creativity when I'm in a rut!
Yes, great, Sherryl. It's always fun to ask for a first reaction, you never know what will come up. The first image was made with crayons, I forgot if it was the oily or the chalk ones. Enjoy, Albert
Thanks for this. A friend looking at my work said that I needed to pay more attention to composition. I agreed but trying to intentionally paint in a composed way seemed too static and mental for me. I tried and didn't like the results. I have to paint how I feel. I let colors and painting tools and of course inspiration that comes from where? Sometimes no where I can tell. Composition comes for me with pausing and looking how to harmonize (or not) colors, contrasts, intensities at some point but I can just as well go off in another direction. This for me is the creative process when what I feel I feel having "represented" in a small way appears on my canvas.
Thanks, John. I get your struggles. When I start controlling, I tend to lose appetite for painting. If it can only be good according to general rules, where am I supposed to position myself in the process? Maybe your off-compositions are more interesting to look at. Because they are you. And off is what you can deliver at the moment. That being said, you can always learn more about composition. If you want to. Personally, I would love to be better at portrait painting, like I see in all these videos of people who can draw according to the rules. But I enjoy playing at the other end of the spectrum by making goofy portraits that are fun to make, using odd materials. That makes me happy, and in the end, that's all that matters Oh, and about inspiration, i have to open myself to receive. I can try controlling it but will end up totally frustrated, making paintings without that extra in it. They end up in the trash can. Or I cover them with white paint and start having fun again. Good luck with your travels. Albert
Would you do a session on Mail Post Art, I have recently joined the International Union of Mail-Artists (IUOMA) community they are very active with different art projects and styles.
Thanks, tfb93003, I like your suggestion, but to do it correctly, I should join the IUOMA and participate. I joined them some time ago, but I couldn't find the time to make anything, so I canceled my membership. But I'll put your suggestion on my list. Enjoy making and receiving art. Albert
After watching your video I can understand better her work, and I did enjoy the video... however, seeing her art without explanation leaves me feeling nothing, I don't really care for this type of abstraction, but I do care about the way you presented her work 😅👍
Thanks. It's a different way of painting. But I guess, even if you love2paint in other ways, when you sit in front of one of her paintings, you probably can get something of what she is trying to bring across. Look where your eyes go first and travel through it. Anyway, thanks for dropping by. Albert
Thanks, Leena, for coming back on this. So if my idea of color for an orange is that - a ripe - orange is orange, that would be okay as well? I love it when we can agree on something. Albert
You made me happy. 😊 A little offside note, in some countries, they used to dye the oranges orange for better sales. I don't know if this is still the case or even legal anymore. Oranges often are yellow. I guess it depends on the region, the species, or the time of harvesting. So, let's both be right. Albert
If Joan did not say it was a tree you would never know what it was. Now that Ive been told it is a tree. I still do not see it, but I do understand what you are telling me. I am not a fan of her art. I prefer my three year olds finger painting.
Thanks, Hal. I guess it's hard to compete with the artwork of your 3year old, I'm a dadd as well so I can know. Beyond this subject, it's abstract art so she can do whatever she wants. Name it whatever she wants. And you can enjoy whatever you want. Isn't this a great arrangement? Anyway, thanks for dropping by, Albert
The box was a lot of fun.... and overall, you manage to get me thinking even further about what I want to represent in my painting and ... how!. Thank you Albert.
Thanks, Emmanuel. Painting is so much more interesting when thinking along these lines or others , instead of just painting a picture. Have a good day, Albert
A great programme on Joan Mitchell. It helped to find a way into her paintings.
Thanks, Barbara, and it was nice to hear it was helpful. Enjoy painting in her style. Albert
I think this is one of the most important video I’ve seen. You have reminded me how abstract art is painted. Thank you so much, I’ve been searching for answers, and you answered them😊
Thanks, Moe26, for your kind words. But there is no 'one' way to paint abstract, there are several. All equally important. Anyway, happy painting. Albert
Excellent video Albert. I'm a big fan of Joan Mitchell too. She had really good color conception and coordination. I enjoy when you include clips of traveling thru the landscape. Makes me want to put on my traveling shoes. Be well.
Thanks, Culture Fan. Yes, her colors and coordination are beyond my abilities. But I love her artwork. The cycling pieces are especially for you😉 Albert
I am glad I discovered your channel. I love painting myself and occasionally wish I could paint abstracts. I don’t always understand why one artist’s works sell for millions and others for pennies but you have helped me understand different artists and my favorite video so far was the collage video. Thanks for educating me!
Thanks, Maria. Painting abstract is, in my opinion, a matter of doing. When you think your painting is finished, place it somewhere in your room where you can look at it frequently. Ask yourself what you like about it or what it is missing. Or if you could change one thing, what would it be? Or what do you feel when looking at it. At first, it can be a bit strange, but belief me, you will come up with answers. See it as decorating your living room, the table overhere makes it specious, overthere the opposite. You move around until you're happy. Painting can be, in a way, done the same. Hope this helps.
@@ImperfectPaintings your comment made me smile...I love your video I think it has been two years since I subscribed...I don't get enough of your video when I get the chance I watch
Thanks, Ayyo. Sometimes a different perspective helps. Thanks for dropping by. Albert
@@ImperfectPaintings you welcome your voice so calming when you talk...
I learn so much from your art narratives and appreciate abstract art much better because of them, but I do still struggle with how abstract strokes of paint on a canvas can be worth so much money. The quick "orange" study you painted was quite beautiful as well, but you would never expect it to be worth millions. If the name Joan Mitchell (or any famous artist) was not associated with those same paintings, they would be difficult to sell, let alone be worth so much. It's one of the quandaries that makes it difficult for me to fully appreciate this art style. I certainly do love your channel though and look forward to every new video., thank you Albert!
Thanks, My3babies. I totally agree with you on art auction prices like several millions. A dead painter always will let the prices go up, what is strange. It means a shortage determines the prices, which, in fact, has nothing to do with art. Who becomes famous has almost never any connection to the art, but just which style is in demand at that time. Or who knows who in the art world. But the art of Joan Mitchell goes way beyond my orange-painting. It's more a quick sketch to explain. If you ever happen to be in front of one of her paintings, please take a seat and spend a few minutes with it. They are worth your time. Albert
It might help to think about it from this perspective. I've overheard many people new to art and even myself early on, turn their nose up at pieces like Tracey Emins "my bed" Malevich's black square, and as you mentioned some of the more abstract painters like Jeff Koons, Joan Mitchell or Cy Towmbly.
For many of these artist the criticism is that "anybody could do that" usually with the adage of "my child" But it is the fact that these artists were the first to present those works in an gallery space, the same way that duchamp positioned the urinal that challenges conventions of what is and what isnt art. Is a painting still art if the subject isn't immediately obvious, its on a canvas, it uses a brush. For many the reason these pieces sell for such high values is because as you pass them in your home or re-visit them in a gallery they will continue to offer new ways of seeing and new possibilities. The more abstract the more infinite the interpretations and so in this way abstract offer more than figurative or portraits or landscapes
Additionally if art is about representation then the choice to not paint realistically becomes a statement in itself. Essentially its all a spectrum. For the abstract painter there process actually IS the most accurate representation of the mood or emotion or themes they're trying to show. Being more direct might limit their ability to articulate
Thanks, X-1A2 Z. I guess we mix two discussions here. Unfamiliar art and high art prices. I find 20 mln or more for a painting quite strange. Especially because the pieces almost never are bought from the artists itself but from 'collectors'. It's a market, and some products are more in demand than others. Just as rare cars, koi fishes, or other items.
Personally, I love artists who do things for the first time, all the names you mentioned. I love them all. I never get the argument 'my cat can do this' because it's beside the point. Even a single mark, line, or stain can be brilliant.
But I don't like that some rich people like little boys are comparing who wins in bidding or collecting the most marbles or paintings. By doing so, create the illusion that one artist is more valuable or important or better than another.
I hope I explained it like this correctly.
Albert
@@ImperfectPaintings Yes, indeed! Very true, Albert!
@@ImperfectPaintings This is a beautiful reply.
I completely agree and was going to add in to my comment the problems with art being used for financial purposes such as laundering money or evading taxes or even purely as an investment with no regard to the piece itself.
I also agree that the difficulty or technicality of art, or even the age of the author has nothing to do with its value.
I find the most interesting question surrounding the value of art to be intent. Best shown in the film art school confidential.
How do we perceive the value of an accident, where the outcome was not intended. There are beautiful results in abstraction and surrealism where chance is a huge component. However lets say an artist finishes a piece and someone asks "oh I love how you've painted X theme, did you mean to do X part on purpose?" now lets say that person totally misunderstood the artists intentions but because the audience sees value they say "oh yes, you've guess it, thats exactly what I was going for" This is a poor representation of my point but I hope it makes sense. I think intent can be very important
You are an amazing teacher!! As someone who is traveling the down the self-taught path, I greatly appreciate your style of teaching!! I GET IT!!
Thanks, B B. Just tag along and enjoy the ride. Just know you're welcome. Albert
She is one of my favorite artists!
Thanks, Lady Farmer. I learned to love it as well. Albert
Thanks Albert, you always put an interesting slant on the subject in mind. I love how ypu see things art wise. Another great video.🙂🙂🙂👍👍👍
Thanks, Andrea. It was fun to play like this. Albert
This video was so interesting to me. As you were abstract painting the orange and you explanation of what the colors represented it made complete sense. I could even feel it through the colors. Wow! Thank you.
Thanks, Estee-Marie. It's so nice to hear. Enjoy painting in her style in this way. Albert
Another inspiring video at the right time for me. I love abstract so much. Your videos definitely spark of my imagination when I have a block. Thank you
Thanks, TJ. It's always nice to read. I hope you can find the time to play some more. Albert
First impression: garden ... thank You for helping me appreciate Mitchell's art work-it all makes sense! there is NO " better than mine" ... there is only "my happiness".
Interesting, garden. I get your point, but I really do see a different level of painting on her side. Thanks anyway, Don.
@@ImperfectPaintings wow; i get what this is! Thank You for introducing yet another Great Artist who was hidden from us by the Power Dominant ... inspiring!
Another artist I had never heard of. When you asked what words came into my mind when I looked at the works, my word was ‘whatever’. I watched the two videos as well. I remember the quote about ‘if art was at the centre of her life , life was at the centre of her art’. I also like what one of the women said about her work challenging the whole notion of ,composition. I found it all intriguingly numinous and perhaps musical too. Thanks Albert.
Thanks, Clare. It was so nice to hear you watch the two other videos as well. Besides my two cents, they give a broader perspective to it all. Lots of people don't know her 'because she was a woman' ... sigh. I really hope we get past those stupid mechanisms in society very soon. Intriguing arr, intriguing artist.
Albert
Albert, your painting of an orange is brilliant. For a long time I have been puzzling about how one would express the IDEA of a rose; you have just resolved my dilemma - it is about my personal experience of it, not only about the object itself - seems so simple now … 😳🌹🍊😋
So nice to know, Philna. All solutions already exist within the art world. You only have to find the ones you need. Enjoy painting your rose. Albert
Dank voor deze bijdrage over Joan Mitchell, ik vind haar ook geweldig!
Bedankt, Annick. Ik zou graag weer eens voor een schilderij van haar staan, maar ze zijn volgens mij niet in Nederland. Helaas.
Albert
Loved the box painting 🙂
Thanks, Lolli. It's not the main subject, but it's actually fun to not paint on a flat surface for a change. Just give it a try. Albert
@@ImperfectPaintingsDefinitely will try it out! Thank you Mr Albert :)
Good to hear. Upcycle waste paper or cardboard. Enjoy. Albert
Thank you thank you thank you. I love her
Thanks, Darkman. It's an intriguing artist indeed. Albert
I hadn't visited your channel for a while and now that i did, I feel like i have met an old friend .
Thanks, Rosalie. Lovely to hear. Albert
My reaction to the painting? Where's my crayons? I still love crayons! All those bright colors and the fun of using crayons inspires creativity when I'm in a rut!
Yes, great, Sherryl. It's always fun to ask for a first reaction, you never know what will come up. The first image was made with crayons, I forgot if it was the oily or the chalk ones. Enjoy, Albert
Nice video! What country are you in?? Beautiful, as are Joan Mitchell's paintings.
Thanks Garland5. I live in the Netherlands, Europe. Albert
Thanks for this. A friend looking at my work said that I needed to pay more attention to composition. I agreed but trying to intentionally paint in a composed way seemed too static and mental for me. I tried and didn't like the results. I have to paint how I feel. I let colors and painting tools and of course inspiration that comes from where? Sometimes no where I can tell. Composition comes for me with pausing and looking how to harmonize (or not) colors, contrasts, intensities at some point but I can just as well go off in another direction. This for me is the creative process when what I feel I feel having "represented" in a small way appears on my canvas.
Thanks, John. I get your struggles. When I start controlling, I tend to lose appetite for painting. If it can only be good according to general rules, where am I supposed to position myself in the process?
Maybe your off-compositions are more interesting to look at. Because they are you. And off is what you can deliver at the moment.
That being said, you can always learn more about composition. If you want to.
Personally, I would love to be better at portrait painting, like I see in all these videos of people who can draw according to the rules. But I enjoy playing at the other end of the spectrum by making goofy portraits that are fun to make, using odd materials. That makes me happy, and in the end, that's all that matters
Oh, and about inspiration, i have to open myself to receive. I can try controlling it but will end up totally frustrated, making paintings without that extra in it. They end up in the trash can. Or I cover them with white paint and start having fun again.
Good luck with your travels.
Albert
Thanks for your thoughtful response. I can only be me on this endless journey.
Yes, please be you. I'll try to be me. It's hard work, and yet it isn't. Enjoy, Albert
Love her!
Thanks, elljaye. I as well. Albert
Wat is fietsen in ons Groene Hart toch mooi!
Zeker weten, daarom laat ik het zien 😉 Schilderen is ook leuk 🤣
Would you do a session on Mail Post Art, I have recently joined the International Union of Mail-Artists (IUOMA) community they are very active with different art projects and styles.
Thanks, tfb93003, I like your suggestion, but to do it correctly, I should join the IUOMA and participate. I joined them some time ago, but I couldn't find the time to make anything, so I canceled my membership. But I'll put your suggestion on my list. Enjoy making and receiving art. Albert
After watching your video I can understand better her work, and I did enjoy the video... however, seeing her art without explanation leaves me feeling nothing, I don't really care for this type of abstraction, but I do care about the way you presented her work 😅👍
Thanks. It's a different way of painting. But I guess, even if you love2paint in other ways, when you sit in front of one of her paintings, you probably can get something of what she is trying to bring across. Look where your eyes go first and travel through it. Anyway, thanks for dropping by. Albert
Hi. Can you do a video on Howard Hodgkin?
Ryan
Thanks, Ryan, for your suggestion. Howard Hodgkin is already on my list, so just wait a little longer. Albert
Is an orange orange?
Interesting question. What do you think?
@@ImperfectPaintings
I think everyone has their own idea of what color a color is. But an orange is yellow ;)
Thanks, Leena, for coming back on this. So if my idea of color for an orange is that - a ripe - orange is orange, that would be okay as well? I love it when we can agree on something. Albert
@@ImperfectPaintings I accept that you think an orange is orange.
You made me happy. 😊
A little offside note, in some countries, they used to dye the oranges orange for better sales. I don't know if this is still the case or even legal anymore. Oranges often are yellow. I guess it depends on the region, the species, or the time of harvesting.
So, let's both be right.
Albert
Nice video
Thanks, Thom.
If Joan did not say it was a tree you would never know what it was. Now that Ive been told it is a tree. I still do not see it, but I do understand what you are telling me. I am not a fan of her art. I prefer my three year olds finger painting.
Thanks, Hal. I guess it's hard to compete with the artwork of your 3year old, I'm a dadd as well so I can know.
Beyond this subject, it's abstract art so she can do whatever she wants. Name it whatever she wants. And you can enjoy whatever you want. Isn't this a great arrangement? Anyway, thanks for dropping by, Albert