I was a PR exec. You need to find out the origin of the study, who is funding it, and know that it may require a deep dive, since PR firms hide this info using all manor of tactics.
Have no fear! It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
Key Insights: 1. A new interventional study in 2024 suggests erythritol consumption may increase blood clotting risk. 2. The study involved 20 subjects who consumed either 30g of erythritol or glucose after fasting overnight. 3. Blood samples were taken and treated with agonists (ADP and thrombin activator peptide 6) in a petri dish. 4. Results showed a 1000-fold increase in blood erythritol levels and increased platelet aggregation in the erythritol group. 5. The study also found increased markers of platelet activation (serotonin and CXCL4) in the erythritol group. 6. Thomas critiques the study's methodology, pointing out that the blood was manipulated in vitro, which may not reflect real-world conditions in the human body. 7. The study only took measurements at one time point (30 minutes after consumption), not accounting for how the body might process erythritol over time. 8. Thomas questions the study's small sample size (20 participants) and the fact that only healthy individuals were included. 9. The critique suggests potential bias, noting that this research group has previously published controversial studies on erythritol and xylitol. 10. Thomas argues that the potential risks of erythritol should be weighed against the known risks of consuming sugary beverages. Conclusion: While the 2024 erythritol study raises concerns about potential blood clotting risks, Thomas argues that its methodology and design have significant limitations. The in vitro manipulation of blood samples, single time point measurement, small sample size, and potential research bias call into question the study's real-world applicability. More comprehensive research is needed to fully understand the effects of erythritol consumption on human health, especially in comparison to the known risks of sugar consumption. Until then, Thomas suggests that the results should be interpreted cautiously and not necessarily lead to abandoning erythritol use entirely.
After 3 years of Keto I had triglycerides levels in the 300 range, but I had not idea why. After reading the first study on erythritol I completely removed it from my diet, despite everyone saying that study was bad, because my common sense told me that there was something weird going on with it. After 1 month my triglycerides went down to the 100 range.
@@valerie4975 I know it's hard to believe people on the internet, but I can assure you I absolutely wasn't. I was just putting some in my coffee every day.
I’m way more worried about glyphosate treated wheat, soy, and corn as well as chemical process of making canola oil than I am small amounts of erythritol sweeteners.
I'm equally concerned about them. I cannot eat any grains for years now, and I reacted badly to erythritol, which is made from corn. Corn is a reactive grain for a lot of people, even though some do not realize it is the culprit behind some of their health issues. Much of the corn in the US is GMO and they put stuff from that corn into so many food products, including the processed keto products. There is so much that is unhealthy even in the keto products, so I avoid most of them.
This is anecdotal, but I was having pains in my heart because I was only drinking erythritol based drinks. After I stopped, I no longer feel the pains.
Based off of what he said, the study only suggested that those already prone to heart disease may be more likely to suffer an attack, or at least a lethal attack, than those who do not. This assumption is drawn from how they treated the blood meaning that the presence of heart disease was meant to be a given and was therefore artificially emulated in the blood sample. Given this assumption, and regardless of its accuracy or that of the study, you should probably go see a doctor, as you may still be at risk of a heart attack regardless of whether or not you're consuming the substance, and may need to take preventative action.
@philliparnesen4493 I highly recommended avoiding any chemical artificial sweeteners due to cancer risks. I warned a good friend of mine about that and he didnt listen/thought I was worrying too much. He ended up developing a rare cancer a handful of years that killed him.
@@philliparnesen4493 Aspartame was denied for a decade on scientific concerns over safety. When Donald Rumsfeld, (yes the same guy that lied us into the Iraq war based on WMD programs that he knew never existed) and who used to work for JD Searle aka. Nutrisweet got into political office he said he would use political rather than scientific means to get it rammed through. So he stacked the FDA panel and head and even then it came to a tie and Arthur Hull Hayes Jr. who he got in as the FDA commissioner took it upon himself to cast the tiebreaking vote and get it approved. Since then Aspartame is the food ingredient with the most complaints about negative side effects to the FDA. There has been a meta study done on Aspartame studies as well that found the outcome of the study was heavily dependent on the source of funding for the study with the ones funded by the industry that has an interest promoting it finding favorably where as the independent/non industry funded studies being much less favorable. The World Health Organization now lists it as a possible carcinogen. There is no advantage to consuming aspartame and huge potential downside. Proceed accordingly.
It should be illegal to hide who is funding the research and study. Just saying, it wouldn’t surprise if someone from the sugar industry foot the bill to “find” bad things with alternative sugars
While it's not illegal, there are severe repercussions to refusing to disclose conflicts of interest. Grants get suspended, fines up into the millions of dollars, and loss of employment are a few to consider. The problem is not that there's no punishment for wrongdoing. The problem is that the layperson doesn't open the article and read the Conflicts of Interest section that's in every single journal article. It's just negligence because most of the time, the conflict is actually there for anyone to read but they just... don't. They'd rather defer to an "expert" to inform them rather than bother to read it themselves.
I was involved in a study sponsored by a major corporation that shut it down as soon as the data began to spike results the corporation could not use in marketing.
I would have released the data. They shut down the Minnesota Coronary study results for 16 years and packaged the best data they could and the women's health initiative has unreleased data that makes it harder to make definitive policy arguments on the original magnetic tape storage. I can't wait until there is nutritional science. One day I'm sure. There is no such thing as Dark Science. You do it in the light of day or it isn't science.
@@lexiatel trust the science don't trust the authorities. The science is there and it makes predictions and it tries to investigate and understand the mechanism. The authorities are older people who can't admit that their entire life's work is at best half true and at worse a lie.
5 to 10 grams of Allulose about an hour before bedtime really restores muscle glycogen after a day with a good workout. Seems to slightly elevate insulin, pushing glucose into the muscles via the insulin dependent GLUT4 receptors.
Medical technologist worked in medical labs for 21 years. You are correct there is a problem with the study. That does not mean there is no problem with erythritol. Design a better study. I am diabetic I avoid All artificial sweeteners they all increase the bad actions of sugar and I have found have worse side effects for me. I have managed to kick insulin with diet and exercise. Very mild exercise, stretching and walking my dog. I am disabled, a veteran, and have to go low impact with the exercise. I am 67. I have already lived longer than my grandfather with diabetes. We also have better treatments than were available in his day. God bless everyone, congrats on looking for the best solutions that work for you.
There is no issue with erythritol. People start drinking soda with the artificial sweeteners instead of proper meal and then they complain about the blood sugar spike. That’s not how it works. You eat sweet treats after the meal including the soda and the energy drinks. Erythritol does not spike anything when you start your day right and it doesn’t clog anything because it doesn’t stay in the body at all.
"hey all increase the bad actions of sugar" Elaborate. Otherwise please do not spread falsehoods. Erythritol is among the safest and best ones. I am curious what bad actions of sugar you are referring to that you claim is caused more by it.
I started to take Erythritol and found it to give me immense GI issues with gas / discomfort and diarrhea, however my husband can tolerate it no problem . I switched to organic Monk fruit which I can tolerate very well. Note: I do not have a gallbladder. Good post ! Keep up with your diligence to the Science behind it and putting it out to the public.
I don't have a gallbladder, have had IBS-D for 40+ years and Erythritol has no affect on me. I use it when I cook some things like keto cheesecakes and I opt to cut the amount to half the suggested amount simply because it's sweet enough already. Monk fruit is my #1 go to but most monk fruit has Erythritol.
Just to clarify…. Since so many people call products like Swerve “monkfruit” (which is primarily Erythritol with monkfruit) did you switch to a pure monkfruit sweetener or are you talking about one of the blends?
As someone on keto diet and already had a blood clotting condition, this study scared the heck outta me!! Thank you for thIs video Thomas, you broke this down, unlike no other source, you're amazing! THANK YOU!
If they weren't being deliberately dishonest they would have used a control group and also compared against other uric-acid metabolizing compounds consumed in food products including sucrose, fructose, and ethanol as opposed to just glucose which is uniquely non-uric acid metabolizing compared to these other commonly-consumed food compounds. I would bet that the results they got were purely due to uric acid, and they expected this which is why they used glucose in the other group to "deliberately dodge" those results.
Tried erythritol twice in my life a few months ago, my BP went to 235/130. First time, I thought, "oh, well, a fluke." Tried it again a few days later and I thought I was going to die. To the garbage it went. Will not try it again.
I would be cautious if you already have a condition. There are other good substitutes, like allulose. It's not worth the experiment on yourself. I was eating a lot of erythritol when my blood clots came on.
I had a heart attack at 40 when in the best shape of my life. I had been eating Rebel Ice-cream, and using swerve sweetener for years on a regular basis. Just one person's experience though.
My two cents: when I was pretty strict about keto, I used erythritol A LOT. My own observation during that time was that I bruised much more easily, and noticeably took longer to heal as well...🤷♂️
I'm m a very healthy marathon runner who tried Erythritol and it caused GI distress and extreme gas. Despite the haters who are belittling people in this comment section, it doesnt wotk for everyone.
Not in ALL things. Some things should be avoided, especially by certain people. I react badly to erythritol, so moderation is not an option. Grains are very harmful to me, so moderation is also not an option.
It's funny how people comment based on the headline.😅 I've been using erythritol and xylitol for years, so have friends and family, with no adverse effects. I trust my body and my own experience, so I'll keep using it whatever studies say.
I was thinking the same thing, people obviously don't listen to the video lol and I concur, everyone's own personal research for themselves is best. We're all in different health levels. Have a great day 😀
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
If I take enough of it, I get chest pains. So I stopped, and the chest pains went away. It takes about three consecutive days before symptoms appear for me.
Yes, Yes and Yes! Great job on covering and assessing this study! More research is most definitely needed, before concluding that Erythritol is in fact unsafe. Thank you for sharing!
I’m not a biologist, but I know enough here to ask questions. If blood clots were a concern then why not have individuals consume Erythritol and then take a blood sample to test their Prothrombin Time or better yet their PTT? By adding that thrombin activator peptide 6, one is looking to initiate a blood clot. I’m confused why they did this and didn’t just study in vivo as that would be way more accurate to a normal physiological response.
I purchased some monk fruit from Costco and guess what the first ingredient is? Erythritol. I've learned to eat whole foods. I use maple syrup or pure stevia, nothing else.
@chaundasumara I only use 100% monk fruit extract powder or 100% Stevia. They aren't cut with erythritol like 95% of the products out there. They cut it with erythritol because it makes the volume of the product 100x and can be used with traditional recipes as in measurements. A small container of monk fruit extract is the size of a small bottle of spice and has like 600 servings so it lasts very long but cost $28. They sell it at most grocery stores. Same with Stevie 100% powder.
I actually do really well with erythritol vs sugar. Sugar gets me mucusy, sourness in my mouth, tonsil stones, but none of that happen when I sweeten my food with erythritol.
there was a time when i was younger when i thought that all the people that do scientific research were so noble and honest. that was until i had to do my own research for uni and after reading multiple research studies on different subjects,only then i realised how dishonest a large portion of these scientific studies are...thank you for the in-depth breakdown... not matter how hard these people try to stop us from consuming artificial sweeteners i will not stop using them.
you should. Sweetness itself is bad, and in form of those sweeterners doubly so. I recommend glycine, an amino acid, which does not only has no bad effects, it is providing lots of positive effects
@@FTDeBert I use stevia quite a bit. I definitely like the sweetness profile over sugar alcohols. I use Duralife brand from Amazon. Opinions may vary...
Have no fear! It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
Have no fear! It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
Not a fan of artificial sweeteners I’ll just use real sweetener if I crave it. If you’re healthy and a good weight no reason to avoid honey, maple syrup or even a little sugar as long as you don’t binge eat.
Sugar makes my psoriasis go itchy and makes it red + spreads - and yes, it is the carbohydrates that does it - sadly, as I would also prefer 'pure' sugar vs. artificial substitutes
@@chahahc It's been quite hot here this summer, so I gave in and got some store-bought ice-cream. Filled with 'regular sugar' - and I got noticeably worse on my legs/knee. Then I got myself an ice-cream maker, to make my own 'sugar-free' - so I am also quite interested in this study, and what alternatives are safe. Ice-cream without sugar is ... 'ok' Ice-cream with sweetness is... 'the best' :ø)
A lot of people aren't concerned about the weight gain from eating sugar so much as the glucose spike, the insulin adaptation (or response after decades of reaction) and hormonal changes. "Going to the gym" isn't the fix for how the sugar affects health.
I use 2 packets a day with my sweet morning decaf and all the tests my primary & specialist put me through come back with a smiley face. I'm 69. I'll take my chances. Good presentation Thomas.
‘The Cleveland Clinic's study on the sugar substitute erythritol and its potential to increase cardiovascular risk was partially funded by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Office of Dietary Supplements. The study was led by Dr. Stanley Hazen, who also directs the clinic's Center for Microbiome and Human Health’.
Have no fear! It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
cleveland clinic has a very clear goal: promote 100 vegan. trustwortiness: 0% recently they had a study that sowed that vit B3 suplementation is very bad and causes creation of 4PY, which triggers wick CVD and death. Guess where we get it from... Same kind of shitty ideological pseudo scientific study
Ive tried pretty much every natural sweetener and they all make my heart race, give me anxiety , insomia and eye twitches. I have less reactions to refined sugar tbh!!! So i stick with honey. Its the only thing i can tolerate. Id love to know why on earth i have this reaction tho??? Theres gotta be something bad about them.
Big Food, AMA, FDA & USDA - Ask yourself what comes to mind. It would now be great to see a study as you described it should be done and see the results. Always willing to keep an open mind👍
I used erythritol for about 4-6 months a couple of years back. After that, I started developing food sensitivities. I'm completely lactose intolerant now. I've noticed that when I consume erythritol sweetened foods, I get a similar reaction to when I eat lactose. Not sure if the erythritol had anything to do with this, but I suspect it may have messed with my gut biome.
Very interesting comment. I, too, am lactose intolerant. Did you know that eating foods with casein in their ingredients (like canned tuna) can give you the same effects as lactose? There are other ingredients which will cause this effect. I was diagnosed with lactose intolerance over 30 years ago. At that time I joined the Food Allergy Network and learned a great deal about what food ingredients cause the gastric distress of lactose intolerance.
Thank you for your explanation of this latest study. The fact that it was conducted by the same group that did the 2023 study makes it suspect. However, your breakdown of the findings and what they mean allows us to make an informed decision for ourselves. Appreciate that…
Have no fear! It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
Very nice breakdown of this study Tom. The comparison with a snapshot is brillant. Scientists can't isolate things like this in a petri dish like they did to demonstrate fat was bad.
There are also activists with a political, ideological, or religious agenda who knowingly lie to try to impose their beliefs on others. This is quite common in veganism or environmentalism, for instance.
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
So happy you are doing this one. I was on a diet that included a lot of shakes and foods that used Erythritol and I ended up with a horrible food allergy. First I had a headache that never went away. Then 5 minutes after eating anything with Erythritol I started getting dizzy and had blurry vision. When I started digging into the side effects and saw stroke as a possibility I stopped taking it. All my symptoms went away. Very scary side effects and you can hardly find any prepared foods that are low carb and don't use it the erythritol.
I would suggest to use whole foods and make everything yourself. There is always risk factors when you buy processed foods and beverages. There might be some other compounds that effects badly in your body. Also you can adjust the amounts if you make everything yourself.
I would heavily bet if you were eating lots of shakes with erythritol then you likely had a bunch of other garbage in them too. There are WAY too many companies making garbage products with lesser ingredients. They also often don’t rely on one single sweetener. Often have 2 or 3. Not that people don’t use personal experience, but it’s not very logically based reasoning to vilify erythritol. Biggest red flag is you seem to make a claim it gave you food allergies. Not that it’s impossible, but you’d be probably patient 0 for that one.
Thomas is saying the study doesn't demonstrate that Erythritol is bad for you and that it is in fact better than consuming sugar. Furthermore, more studies that are well designed would be needed in order to indicate whether it is good or bad for us and whether it should be included in our diet.
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
30 grams in a single dose seems like a lot. They should be forced to publish the protocol they used to come up with the chemicals they mixed with the blood sample in the Petri dish to get the results they did.
Agreed. It seems much like studies of other sweeteners (such as aspartame) where the test subjects are given amounts that are much higher than the average person would consume, and it creates fear-mongering. I try not to consume too much of any of it (well, I struggle with added sugar but am still working on a better balance). Sometimes I have a drink that has stevia or erythritol, sometimes I have a diet soda. with sucralose or aspartame, etc. I also try to drink plain water every day. Moderation is key.
After that study I moved on from Splenda Stevia (with Erythritol) to Stevie (organic no Erythritol). Thanks for the information and clarity on this and whatever comes out of it, I am happy with my Organic 100% Stevia.
Thank you SO much for saying this, I have been using the splenda stevia for a very, very long time and thought the other day, what do I do EVERY single day - my issue isn't gastro but aches and pains and arthritis, tendonitis and stuff... maybe it's settling in my joints and tissues? I swapped to the splenda off sucralose, tried the erythritol by itself for a while and just didn't feel right and it had kind of an aftertaste, thought it was a good blend to have stevia w the erythritol. Gonna try your Stevie. Thank you!!!
The other question is, 30gram is 2 heaping tablespoons full. Who the heck consuming this much in one meal? I'm using Erythritol and Xylitol over years without any problems. The amount I use is relatively low, 2 -3 Teaspoon on a big pot of tea with lime and ginger. If you took too much, it could cause some gut trouble, this is a fact. It can change your microbiome negatively, too. Your Teeth get the biggest benefit. Anyway, thanks for your video which keep me awake about “Ancel Key's grandchildren” 😉
Anyone who uses it to make sugar free baked goods. If you make keto brownies or whatever, a single serving could easily have that much in it. Hell, anyone who likes their coffee sweet can pretty easily get there.
What a lot of people won't tell you is that if you mix alternative sweeteners, they can for the most part make up for each other's off flavors. Allulose tastes kinda like powdered sugar, Xylitol adds a weird minty effervescence which can be good in some foods/drinks but not in others, and Stevia is super sweet but tastes artificial to me. What I do is mix about 1 part Allulose to 2 parts Xylitol, and boost the sweetness with light sprinkle of Stevia. The result tastes almost exactly like Sucrose sugar in most things.
My experience, fwiw - I used allulose + erythritol to sweeten my coffee for months. I started to experience heart palpitations for the first time in my life (I have no cardiac issues and exercise regularly). I replaced the erythritol with ribose and trehalose, and palpitations ended after a couple of weeks.
@@WhatstheNarrative it may sound insane to you, but I’ve been drinking coffee for 40 years without palpitations, they started after consuming erythritol, then the palpitations stopped after I stopped ingesting erythritol. It seems pretty simple to me.
I believe Paul Saladino mentioned there was a study that showed negative effects on blood having granulated or processed sugar compared to sugar broken down from whole food, naturally absorbed through the body. I’d love to hear a video from you about that on how that works. ❤
Sucrose is probably what you are thinking of as table sugar. In those quantities it is processed, a 12 carbon sugar. But it is also naturally made by plants. Sucrose - Wikipedia Sucrose, a disaccharide, is a sugar composed of glucose and fructose subunits. It is produced naturally in plants and is the main constituent of white sugar. It has the molecular formula C. 12H. 22O. 11 . For human consumption, sucrose is extracted and refined from either sugarcane or sugar beet. So originally sucrose was simply eaten from sugar cane or beets. Sugar cane was called that because it has such high quantities of sugar naturally and that is why it is selected to boil it down into first syrup then eventually into crystals. That was better for long slow shipping by wooden sailing vessels back to Europe from Florida. I resent the loss of habitat in my native Florida to the sugar cane plantations in what was once a more vast swampy area in the southern tip. It helped reduce damage from hurricanes and we had more diverse wildlife then.
You're right but I disagree with your choice of words saying they "tortured it with chemicals", I think that type of phrasing should be reserved if they selectively tested for clotting in a dishonest way. It's not like in an honest experiment they would have waited until one of the test subjects developed a natural blood clot. Of course they have to do something to check the clotting ability of the blood. You're right that the study is not entirely representative of the effects of erythritol in the human diet. I'm not familiar with this research group but unless there's a reason to suspect dishonesty or if they were presenting their study with scare-tactics, there's no reason to attack it as if they are trying to mislead people. Plenty of studies are not 100% applicable to what they relate to in the real world, it doesn't mean the study is complete garbage. I'm certainly not afraid of erythritol after seeing this video but it just seems like bad form to swat aside the study with language like that. The whole idea is that the study SUGGESTS something. You acknowledge this by saying more research should be done, but "tortured it with chemicals" will make some people think the whole thing is bogus. I assume you were just trying to prevent people from overreacting to the study. My takeaway interpretation (just from this video) that it's a small risk-factor that is irrelevant to most people, but perhaps not all - that's probably the main practical implication worth mentioning
Obviously, there should be a long term double blind study including sugar and these other sweeteners with no one, including those doing the test, aware of the stuff being tested.
Have no fear! It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
This presentation plus all the great comments reminds me that I need to start working closely with my doctor to see what works and keep asking questions. Thanks for this one!
I have this issue with a lot of artificial or sugar alcohol sweeteners. I can have about 1 diet soda a week, if I have 1 two days in a row, my stomach is doing backflips.. Some are worse than others, but all of them screw me up to some degree.
We are not all equal. If someone doesn’t take well to something, stop taking it. Artificial sugars do not affect me in any negative way and I am grateful for it. I love my artificial drinks 🙌🏼
Erythritol works great for me. But you just don’t want to eat a lot. They add a lot of it to the energy drinks and the chocolate chips. I would avoid those two things.
Stevia is mostly erythritol and no it does not do that, even among the chronically ill old people. What brand are you using, what dose are you taking? Elaborate. Do not spread sugar-industry falsehoods.
I think 30 grams is like two tablespoons worth. Who eats that much in one sitting? Plus, even greens have vitamin k which is a blood thickener. I bet if the blood was taken after eating a large amount of greens, put in a petri dish and manipulated like the blood in this study, it would clot too. But, I'm not going to stop eating greens. I think it's a difference of natural body functions and manipulation in a lab.
Regardless of what Tom or any influencer says, the best thing you can do is stay the hell away from sweeteners. Especially anything human made or altered. Get your glucose from fruit and honey. You don’t need to add it and certainly don’t need some corporation who’s trying to gain your addiction to add it for you.
@@michaelmoellmann744 Yeah - fruit and honey is the way to go - then you don't have to even sweat/worry about the infrequent-to-rare times you ingest erythritol/etc (UNLESS, of course, you have an acute reaction - or a noticeable or significant reaction, over time - to it/to them. 👍) It's SO fucking easy and SO natural.
@@michaelmoellmann744 ... Yeah, I can't disagree. I'm sure Thomas even agrees with that. I sadly just still lack the willpower to go FULLY natural in the world we live in.
My anecdotal experience with sugar and artificial sweeteners: I feel much better with a controlled consumption of raw cane sugar and avoiding all type of artificial sweeteners including sugar alcohols. During the periods in my life I skipped all sugars and consumed only artificial sweeteners and sugar alcohols I felt without energy and then reduced my activity and performances leading to increase of fat and lose of muscle
I buy monk fruit sweetener which is claimed to be a powerful antioxidant but mostly all brands seem to contain Erythritol. It is really hard to find a keto friendly sweetener that isn't artificial with risks of osteoporosis and other bad illnesses
I had to find monk fruit and stevia that do not have erythritol added because I react badly to erythritol. There are some brands out there, but not much,
When the first poorly done "study" came out on erythritol, I thought that it might be funded by the sugar industry, and now again with this one? Can't say I feel any different today.
Maybe it would be good to follow the money. Who paid for this study? Was it a company that had a monetary interest in making Erythritol look bad? As much as I like knowing about new research I realize companies with financial interests in products can manipulate studies to show what they want. If they don’t like what they find out you will never see the study. I wish that a study would show in big print who funded the study!
Have no fear! It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
Thomas, I have a partial quad tear. Never got surgery for it, I'm 35. If you can make a video about whether its possible to grow muscle over an area that's previously been torn, it would be huge for me. It's been a year and the discomfort is still present, and i don't know whether I should pursue bodybuilding at all anymore.
I appreciate you breaking this down. I, personally, don't like erythritol or xylitol because they give me gastrointestinal issues so I am going to continue not including it in my n=1 experiment. If it doesn't do that for you, enjoy it on my behalf 😊
When samples of blood or tissue are taken from the body to be studied, they are usually "tortured" with other substances in order to be examined. There is a school of thought that this in and of itself manipulates the results and so there is a skepticism about microscopic diagnostic studies in general. This is worth seriously thinking about relative to ALL lab research methods.
Have no fear! It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
He should do videos on the amount of hidden sugar in just about every single processed item that comes out of the food processing factories in this country, the concerning effect on our health, and the cost on our health, lives, and econony.
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
"Acknowledgements This work is supported by grants from the NIH and Office of Dietary Supplements P01 HL147823, R01 HL103866 (S.L.H.), the Leducq Foundation 17CVD01 (S.L.H. and U.L.) and the Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft WI 5229/1-1 (M.W.). A.H. is a participant in the BIH-Charité Advanced Clinician Scientist Program funded by the Charité-Universitätsmedizin Berlin and the Berlin Institute of Health. The LipidCardio Study was partially funded by the Sanofi-Aventis Deutschland GmbH (I.D. and U.L.). P.P.S. was supported in part by an AHA postdoctoral grant 20POST35210937. The funders had no role in study design, data collection and analysis, decision to publish or preparation of the manuscript. We thank G. Deshpande (Department of Cardiovascular & Metabolic Sciences, Lerner Research Institute, Cleveland Clinic) for technical support during whole blood in vitro thrombosis studies. We also thank M. Ferrell for assistance in data analysis and T. Weeks (both at the Department of Cardiovascular & Metabolic Sciences, Lerner Research Institute, Cleveland Clinic) for editing the manuscript."
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
No. They were funded by the NIH (National Institute of Health) and published in top medical journals. But, we can just believe what a guy with a youtube channel says
Keep it simple, Don't consume artificial ingredients or processed food. Eat real fresh meats, veggies, fruits, and nuts. And as far as drinks go; Water is life.
But for less sensible people like myself, I STILL want to know what are acceptable substitutes for sugary drinks... when just plain old WATER won't do. It's a valid pursuit of knowledge regardless of how ideal.
@@pheresy1367 Understood. If you're looking for a "sugary" tasting substitute you're always going to be drinking something that's manufactured unless you use local harvested honey. If you just are looking for a drink with a "taste", how about herbal teas? There are fruit based herbal teas and other natural flavors.
How do you define chemicals? Should I stop taking creatine? Erythritol is naturally produced by our bodies as part of glucose metabolism. The study in question is not helpful for determining risk of ingesting erythritol and most likely an observation of reverse causation (high erythritol was circulating because the patients were sick, not the other way around). For example, you will notice, that there as absolutely no tracking of ingesting erythritol at all in this study.
i just really appreciate your passion for studying these research papers that are published. So many of us are reaping benefits, if you will, from your passion. I am particularly happy that you dove a bit deeper regarding the erythritol since it and xylitol are the only two sweeteners I my body can tolerate, and quite well, other than Sucralose and saccharine. All the so-called faves, such as allulose and monk fruit, leave SUCH a cooling effect that I actually get nauseous. As expensive as those were, I tossed them out straight away. Also, I love the fact that, so far, every one of these 'episodes of discovery' I call them, that you present to us, causes us, or at least myself, to really think about what you are saying in regard to the studies which in turn helps me to remain calm rather than overreact. Which I find I am more prone to doing than I ever previously realized, lol. Have a blessed day, sugar.
note to self ...never inject unknown substances into my body especially if I just had erythritol ;) ...though I primarily am monk fruit and stevia with allulose on occasion
I would pay attention to this. I switched from sugar about 2 years ago and within 6 months I was in the hospital with clots in my knee, my hips, and my right lung. Coincidence? Maybe for sure. I have no idea. But I changed to RXSugar after that just by chance. No additional problems for the last year or so.
How much were you consuming? I have mild consistently elevated platelets and white blood cells since 2019, however I don’t think mine is caused by erythritol as I don’t consume it every day or consume a lot of it.
funny how after the 💉new studies come out daily suggesting almost everything could cause heart attack but one thing... Here in Italy the said it was pizza (no joking)
It may be a flawed study, but as a 20+ time a year Red Cross platelet donor, I’ll be discontinuing adding a erythritol sweetener to my protein shakes from here on out. Not gonna substitute with sugar, though.
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I was a PR exec. You need to find out the origin of the study, who is funding it, and know that it may require a deep dive, since PR firms hide this info using all manor of tactics.
Have no fear!
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research.
But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups!
The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients.
For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million.
The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
My first thought was who funded it. Same group hmmm
Reminds me of when big tobacco would do a study to prove cigarettes were healthy.
Agreed. My first thoughts were has anyone looked into if money from the sugar industry - either direct or indirect - is involved.
Came here to say this. My money is on the sugar industry and quite possibly big pharma, given that diabetes care is so lucrative
Key Insights:
1. A new interventional study in 2024 suggests erythritol consumption may increase blood clotting risk.
2. The study involved 20 subjects who consumed either 30g of erythritol or glucose after fasting overnight.
3. Blood samples were taken and treated with agonists (ADP and thrombin activator peptide 6) in a petri dish.
4. Results showed a 1000-fold increase in blood erythritol levels and increased platelet aggregation in the erythritol group.
5. The study also found increased markers of platelet activation (serotonin and CXCL4) in the erythritol group.
6. Thomas critiques the study's methodology, pointing out that the blood was manipulated in vitro, which may not reflect real-world conditions in the human body.
7. The study only took measurements at one time point (30 minutes after consumption), not accounting for how the body might process erythritol over time.
8. Thomas questions the study's small sample size (20 participants) and the fact that only healthy individuals were included.
9. The critique suggests potential bias, noting that this research group has previously published controversial studies on erythritol and xylitol.
10. Thomas argues that the potential risks of erythritol should be weighed against the known risks of consuming sugary beverages.
Conclusion:
While the 2024 erythritol study raises concerns about potential blood clotting risks, Thomas argues that its methodology and design have significant limitations. The in vitro manipulation of blood samples, single time point measurement, small sample size, and potential research bias call into question the study's real-world applicability. More comprehensive research is needed to fully understand the effects of erythritol consumption on human health, especially in comparison to the known risks of sugar consumption. Until then, Thomas suggests that the results should be interpreted cautiously and not necessarily lead to abandoning erythritol use entirely.
Thank youuuuu for the summary
Well said indeed. Clearly we’ve got a good science mind at work here.
Thanks!
Thanks a lot! That's an extensive summary.
30 g? That is a lot.
After 3 years of Keto I had triglycerides levels in the 300 range, but I had not idea why. After reading the first study on erythritol I completely removed it from my diet, despite everyone saying that study was bad, because my common sense told me that there was something weird going on with it.
After 1 month my triglycerides went down to the 100 range.
That means you were eating a "dirty" keto diet. Too much processed foods and beverages.
@@valerie4975 I know it's hard to believe people on the internet, but I can assure you I absolutely wasn't. I was just putting some in my coffee every day.
Thank you for posting your exoerience. I think sonething like that has been hapoemingvto me. I will stop taking this substance also.
How much erythritol were you consuming?
I wasn't on dirty keto. I was just putting some in my coffee every day. Probably 2-3 teaspoons.
I’m way more worried about glyphosate treated wheat, soy, and corn as well as chemical process of making canola oil than I am small amounts of erythritol sweeteners.
AMEN!!!!! That crap is killing my mom's brain in the assisted place she lives and eats 3 meals a day!
Absolutely true. He goes on and in about this as if he's a pro, and we have a HUGE problem with our entire food industry!!!
I'm equally concerned about them. I cannot eat any grains for years now, and I reacted badly to erythritol, which is made from corn. Corn is a reactive grain for a lot of people, even though some do not realize it is the culprit behind some of their health issues. Much of the corn in the US is GMO and they put stuff from that corn into so many food products, including the processed keto products. There is so much that is unhealthy even in the keto products, so I avoid most of them.
I would be concerned about both. Have you looked at the research?
amen that
This is anecdotal, but I was having pains in my heart because I was only drinking erythritol based drinks. After I stopped, I no longer feel the pains.
What drinks did you consume with eythritol? All the 0 sugar sodas I have are sweetened with aspartame and phenylalinine.
Based off of what he said, the study only suggested that those already prone to heart disease may be more likely to suffer an attack, or at least a lethal attack, than those who do not. This assumption is drawn from how they treated the blood meaning that the presence of heart disease was meant to be a given and was therefore artificially emulated in the blood sample.
Given this assumption, and regardless of its accuracy or that of the study, you should probably go see a doctor, as you may still be at risk of a heart attack regardless of whether or not you're consuming the substance, and may need to take preventative action.
@philliparnesen4493 I highly recommended avoiding any chemical artificial sweeteners due to cancer risks. I warned a good friend of mine about that and he didnt listen/thought I was worrying too much. He ended up developing a rare cancer a handful of years that killed him.
@@duketogo2616 It's been studied to death. Aspartame doesn't cause cancer. It may have OTHER bad health effects but cancer isn't one of them.
@@philliparnesen4493 Aspartame was denied for a decade on scientific concerns over safety. When Donald Rumsfeld, (yes the same guy that lied us into the Iraq war based on WMD programs that he knew never existed) and who used to work for JD Searle aka. Nutrisweet got into political office he said he would use political rather than scientific means to get it rammed through. So he stacked the FDA panel and head and even then it came to a tie and Arthur Hull Hayes Jr. who he got in as the FDA commissioner took it upon himself to cast the tiebreaking vote and get it approved. Since then Aspartame is the food ingredient with the most complaints about negative side effects to the FDA. There has been a meta study done on Aspartame studies as well that found the outcome of the study was heavily dependent on the source of funding for the study with the ones funded by the industry that has an interest promoting it finding favorably where as the independent/non industry funded studies being much less favorable. The World Health Organization now lists it as a possible carcinogen.
There is no advantage to consuming aspartame and huge potential downside. Proceed accordingly.
It should be illegal to hide who is funding the research and study. Just saying, it wouldn’t surprise if someone from the sugar industry foot the bill to “find” bad things with alternative sugars
Its not hidden at all.
it should be illegal but it's not
While it's not illegal, there are severe repercussions to refusing to disclose conflicts of interest. Grants get suspended, fines up into the millions of dollars, and loss of employment are a few to consider.
The problem is not that there's no punishment for wrongdoing. The problem is that the layperson doesn't open the article and read the Conflicts of Interest section that's in every single journal article. It's just negligence because most of the time, the conflict is actually there for anyone to read but they just... don't. They'd rather defer to an "expert" to inform them rather than bother to read it themselves.
Don’t they (sugar industry) develop the alternate sweeteners though?
I was involved in a study sponsored by a major corporation that shut it down as soon as the data began to spike results the corporation could not use in marketing.
I would have released the data.
They shut down the Minnesota Coronary study results for 16 years and packaged the best data they could and the women's health initiative has unreleased data that makes it harder to make definitive policy arguments on the original magnetic tape storage.
I can't wait until there is nutritional science.
One day I'm sure. There is no such thing as Dark Science. You do it in the light of day or it isn't science.
Yep. That's the whole point in these studies. It's why I will NEVER "trust the science".
@@lexiatel trust the science don't trust the authorities.
The science is there and it makes predictions and it tries to investigate and understand the mechanism.
The authorities are older people who can't admit that their entire life's work is at best half true and at worse a lie.
Doubt
All eyes are on you, Allulose. Don't let us down!
I had Rxsugar Maple tonight on my sweet potato. Yummm!
I use Allulose for baking and coffee lol
Big sugar corporations will be going after them soon!!!
Allulose is banned for being a carcinogen in Europe and Canada.
5 to 10 grams of Allulose about an hour before bedtime really restores muscle glycogen after a day with a good workout. Seems to slightly elevate insulin, pushing glucose into the muscles via the insulin dependent GLUT4 receptors.
Medical technologist worked in medical labs for 21 years. You are correct there is a problem with the study. That does not mean there is no problem with erythritol. Design a better study. I am diabetic I avoid All artificial sweeteners they all increase the bad actions of sugar and I have found have worse side effects for me. I have managed to kick insulin with diet and exercise. Very mild exercise, stretching and walking my dog. I am disabled, a veteran, and have to go low impact with the exercise. I am 67. I have already lived longer than my grandfather with diabetes. We also have better treatments than were available in his day. God bless everyone, congrats on looking for the best solutions that work for you.
do you find issues with Stevia also?
There is no issue with erythritol. People start drinking soda with the artificial sweeteners instead of proper meal and then they complain about the blood sugar spike. That’s not how it works. You eat sweet treats after the meal including the soda and the energy drinks. Erythritol does not spike anything when you start your day right and it doesn’t clog anything because it doesn’t stay in the body at all.
"hey all increase the bad actions of sugar" Elaborate. Otherwise please do not spread falsehoods. Erythritol is among the safest and best ones. I am curious what bad actions of sugar you are referring to that you claim is caused more by it.
Acknowledging your wherewithal and honesty. Be blessed.
Have you tried 'water walking'? lower impact and MUCH greater results than regular.
I started to take Erythritol and found it to give me immense GI issues with gas / discomfort and diarrhea, however my husband can tolerate it no problem . I switched to organic Monk fruit which I can tolerate very well.
Note: I do not have a gallbladder.
Good post ! Keep up with your diligence to the Science behind it and putting it out to the public.
I don't have a gallbladder, have had IBS-D for 40+ years and Erythritol has no affect on me. I use it when I cook some things like keto cheesecakes and I opt to cut the amount to half the suggested amount simply because it's sweet enough already. Monk fruit is my #1 go to but most monk fruit has Erythritol.
Stevia drops? Just bought recently
Erythritol does this to me too, I have my gallbladder
Just to clarify…. Since so many people call products like Swerve “monkfruit” (which is primarily Erythritol with monkfruit) did you switch to a pure monkfruit sweetener or are you talking about one of the blends?
The gallbladder stores bile, it doesnt make it, so your liver will continue to give you bile that you need, if everything also is ok.
As someone on keto diet and already had a blood clotting condition, this study scared the heck outta me!! Thank you for thIs video Thomas, you broke this down, unlike no other source, you're amazing! THANK YOU!
If they weren't being deliberately dishonest they would have used a control group and also compared against other uric-acid metabolizing compounds consumed in food products including sucrose, fructose, and ethanol as opposed to just glucose which is uniquely non-uric acid metabolizing compared to these other commonly-consumed food compounds. I would bet that the results they got were purely due to uric acid, and they expected this which is why they used glucose in the other group to "deliberately dodge" those results.
Tried erythritol twice in my life a few months ago, my BP went to 235/130. First time, I thought, "oh, well, a fluke." Tried it again a few days later and I thought I was going to die. To the garbage it went. Will not try it again.
I would be cautious if you already have a condition. There are other good substitutes, like allulose. It's not worth the experiment on yourself. I was eating a lot of erythritol when my blood clots came on.
I had a heart attack at 40 when in the best shape of my life. I had been eating Rebel Ice-cream, and using swerve sweetener for years on a regular basis. Just one person's experience though.
I really like Rebel Ice cream! Dang….
Rebel ice cream did the same or me!!!
@@melschevelle I'm sorry to hear that.
Sorry to hear this, did you have the covid vaccine?
Come on Thomas... A "STUDY SIZE" of Ten is NOT Actual Science. 👎👎
"Study Size" has nothing to do with it being science or not.
Leaving this comment so I can come back when more studies are done and conclusions about this topic are reached! 🙌🏻
My two cents: when I was pretty strict about keto, I used erythritol A LOT. My own observation during that time was that I bruised much more easily, and noticeably took longer to heal as well...🤷♂️
I'm m a very healthy marathon runner who tried Erythritol and it caused GI distress and extreme gas. Despite the haters who are belittling people in this comment section, it doesnt wotk for everyone.
You are so right. I can tolerate erythritol, but xylitol and multi told gives me extreme gas. All of these sweeteners are digested differently.
NOTHING, WORKS FOR,, EVERYONE 😢😮
It wotks for me !
Erythritol tore my stomach up too and gave me gas and heartburn. I had to stop drinking it.
Marathon runner here too, regularly consume delicious low carb sweets made with Swerve and Allulose, zero GI distress.
Moderation in all things. 30g per day is a lot!
Not in ALL things. Some things should be avoided, especially by certain people. I react badly to erythritol, so moderation is not an option. Grains are very harmful to me, so moderation is also not an option.
You know what really causes blood clotting?!…. What happened four years ago? Yeah, let’s blame erythritol 🙄
Amen!! Couldn't of said that any better!❤💯
Try combining covid with erythritol...
I was thinking the same. They'll "discover" a million causes of blood clotting except that.
Wowww, who would have evvvver expected that consuming Erythritol would increase one's Erythritol levels??
Shocking.
I love Erythritol and xylitol and have no problems using them in small amounts. I really love Stevia!
I had blood clots 3years ago during a dirty keto venture. I do mediterranean clean keto now!
I wonder, if those who had vax, along with artificial sweeteners..developed clots
People need nattokinase
It's funny how people comment based on the headline.😅
I've been using erythritol and xylitol for years, so have friends and family, with no adverse effects. I trust my body and my own experience, so I'll keep using it whatever studies say.
I was thinking the same thing, people obviously don't listen to the video lol and I concur, everyone's own personal research for themselves is best. We're all in different health levels. Have a great day 😀
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research.
But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups!
The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients.
For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million.
The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research.
But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups!
The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients.
For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million.
The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
If I take enough of it, I get chest pains. So I stopped, and the chest pains went away. It takes about three consecutive days before symptoms appear for me.
@@sgill4833 you're smart to rely on your personal experience instead of lab results
Yes, Yes and Yes! Great job on covering and assessing this study! More research is most definitely needed, before concluding that Erythritol is in fact unsafe. Thank you for sharing!
Erythritol makes me sick to my stomach, so i listen to my body. Not surprised to hear about these studies.
I’m not a biologist, but I know enough here to ask questions. If blood clots were a concern then why not have individuals consume Erythritol and then take a blood sample to test their Prothrombin Time or better yet their PTT? By adding that thrombin activator peptide 6, one is looking to initiate a blood clot. I’m confused why they did this and didn’t just study in vivo as that would be way more accurate to a normal physiological response.
I use 100% Stevia or monkfruit extract which are not cut with erythritol. They aren't cheap but last a long time.
Same, and you really have to check those labels to make sure erythritol is not listed.
I purchased some monk fruit from Costco and guess what the first ingredient is? Erythritol.
I've learned to eat whole foods. I use maple syrup or pure stevia, nothing else.
@chaundasumara I only use 100% monk fruit extract powder or 100% Stevia. They aren't cut with erythritol like 95% of the products out there. They cut it with erythritol because it makes the volume of the product 100x and can be used with traditional recipes as in measurements. A small container of monk fruit extract is the size of a small bottle of spice and has like 600 servings so it lasts very long but cost $28. They sell it at most grocery stores. Same with Stevie 100% powder.
@@chrisedler6758 I had to learn this
I actually do really well with erythritol vs sugar. Sugar gets me mucusy, sourness in my mouth, tonsil stones, but none of that happen when I sweeten my food with erythritol.
there was a time when i was younger when i thought that all the people that do scientific research were so noble and honest. that was until i had to do my own research for uni and after reading multiple research studies on different subjects,only then i realised how dishonest a large portion of these scientific studies are...thank you for the in-depth breakdown... not matter how hard these people try to stop us from consuming artificial sweeteners i will not stop using them.
you should. Sweetness itself is bad, and in form of those sweeterners doubly so.
I recommend glycine, an amino acid, which does not only has no bad effects, it is providing lots of positive effects
And just think, all the flawed studies are probably being used to train AIs right now.
@@cymeriandesigns I am regularly fighting with Gemini, as it is displaying the excitement about some bs from it's base
I use any of the sugar alcohols sparingly... otherwise I'll have some bad gastric distress, and I know I'm not the only one.
That's probably cause you were going too fast. Building up levels slowly usually resolves those issues.
I can't use any of them except for stevia, and it has to be just stevia, not the stevia/xylitol/erythritol mixes.
@@FTDeBert I use stevia quite a bit. I definitely like the sweetness profile over sugar alcohols. I use Duralife brand from Amazon. Opinions may vary...
I've been using erythritol everyday in my coffee for 4 years and am fine! I love your videos
Ditto
Have no fear!
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research.
But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups!
The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients.
For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million.
The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
Have no fear!
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research.
But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups!
The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients.
For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million.
The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
same
In cake, in shakes for years. Zero gut issues, zero issues from this. Even among fat old people with chronic illness.
Not a fan of artificial sweeteners I’ll just use real sweetener if I crave it. If you’re healthy and a good weight no reason to avoid honey, maple syrup or even a little sugar as long as you don’t binge eat.
I did my own study on erythritol. My body loudly and painfully said a resounding, NO!
I'm like that with all sugar alcohols. Hits the gut
In what sense? What did it do to you?
Same
Agreed. Erythritol chocolate chip cookies made me feel like I'm digesting a rock.
They just add too much sweeteners to the chocolate chips. That’s why people have issues. But in moderation sweeteners are fine
Who funded the study ? Follow the money
All sugar alcohols wreck me, nearly immediate headache, sick stomach, even weakness and dizziness! It is bizarre. Or maybe it isnt ?
People are putting more effort into trying to find a sugar substitute than just eating some sugar and exercising...
Sugar makes my psoriasis go itchy and makes it red + spreads
- and yes, it is the carbohydrates that does it - sadly, as I would also prefer 'pure' sugar vs. artificial substitutes
@@EgonSorensen Very interesting. Just goes to show how variable the human body is.
@@chahahc It's been quite hot here this summer, so I gave in and got some store-bought ice-cream. Filled with 'regular sugar' - and I got noticeably worse on my legs/knee.
Then I got myself an ice-cream maker, to make my own 'sugar-free' - so I am also quite interested in this study, and what alternatives are safe.
Ice-cream without sugar is ... 'ok'
Ice-cream with sweetness is... 'the best' :ø)
A lot of people aren't concerned about the weight gain from eating sugar so much as the glucose spike, the insulin adaptation (or response after decades of reaction) and hormonal changes. "Going to the gym" isn't the fix for how the sugar affects health.
@@LaughingInTiny exactly
I use 2 packets a day with my sweet morning decaf and all the tests my primary & specialist put me through come back with a smiley face. I'm 69. I'll take my chances. Good presentation Thomas.
Decaf ? Noooooooooo! Give me coffee or give me death!
Tom I love how you evolve on subjects based on Science and credible studies. Thank you for what ya do!
‘The Cleveland Clinic's study on the sugar substitute erythritol and its potential to increase cardiovascular risk was partially funded by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Office of Dietary Supplements. The study was led by Dr. Stanley Hazen, who also directs the clinic's Center for Microbiome and Human Health’.
Have no fear!
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research.
But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups!
The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients.
For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million.
The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
cleveland clinic has a very clear goal: promote 100 vegan. trustwortiness: 0%
recently they had a study that sowed that vit B3 suplementation is very bad and causes creation of 4PY, which triggers wick CVD and death. Guess where we get it from...
Same kind of shitty ideological pseudo scientific study
Ive tried pretty much every natural sweetener and they all make my heart race, give me anxiety , insomia and eye twitches. I have less reactions to refined sugar tbh!!! So i stick with honey. Its the only thing i can tolerate. Id love to know why on earth i have this reaction tho??? Theres gotta be something bad about them.
I’m the same and nobody ever talks about it.
Big Food, AMA, FDA & USDA - Ask yourself what comes to mind. It would now be great to see a study as you described it should be done and see the results. Always willing to keep an open mind👍
I used erythritol for about 4-6 months a couple of years back. After that, I started developing food sensitivities. I'm completely lactose intolerant now. I've noticed that when I consume erythritol sweetened foods, I get a similar reaction to when I eat lactose. Not sure if the erythritol had anything to do with this, but I suspect it may have messed with my gut biome.
Very interesting comment. I, too, am lactose intolerant. Did you know that eating foods with casein in their ingredients (like canned tuna) can give you the same effects as lactose? There are other ingredients which will cause this effect. I was diagnosed with lactose intolerance over 30 years ago. At that time I joined the Food Allergy Network and learned a great deal about what food ingredients cause the gastric distress of lactose intolerance.
I just saw a article about that study oday and here I found you with a video about it today. Perfect timing. Thank you Thomas 👍 😊
Thank you for your explanation of this latest study. The fact that it was conducted by the same group that did the 2023 study makes it suspect. However, your breakdown of the findings and what they mean allows us to make an informed decision for ourselves. Appreciate that…
Have no fear!
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research.
But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups!
The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients.
For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million.
The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
Very nice breakdown of this study Tom. The comparison with a snapshot is brillant. Scientists can't isolate things like this in a petri dish like they did to demonstrate fat was bad.
Smear campaign
Sugar industry is powerful.
Thank you Thomas
Exactly
Except the same people who run the sugar industry also run the sugar substitute industry, generally speaking.
Sorry but no.
I think this study is being used to cover up something else that has been causing these issues that can not be named
Who's funding them during this study🤔? Follow the money , might be a good chance I know who's funding it 🤨
Well said👍
There are also activists with a political, ideological, or religious agenda who knowingly lie to try to impose their beliefs on others. This is quite common in veganism or environmentalism, for instance.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks "against Erythritol
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research.
The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!!
The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients.
For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million.
The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
Well, they have to blame all those increased blood clots and heart attacks since 2020 on something 😂
So happy you are doing this one. I was on a diet that included a lot of shakes and foods that used Erythritol and I ended up with a horrible food allergy. First I had a headache that never went away. Then 5 minutes after eating anything with Erythritol I started getting dizzy and had blurry vision. When I started digging into the side effects and saw stroke as a possibility I stopped taking it. All my symptoms went away. Very scary side effects and you can hardly find any prepared foods that are low carb and don't use it the erythritol.
but you realized tha this vector of argument was just the other way round?
Thank you for your testimony
I would suggest to use whole foods and make everything yourself. There is always risk factors when you buy processed foods and beverages. There might be some other compounds that effects badly in your body. Also you can adjust the amounts if you make everything yourself.
The other additive in everything is magnesium stearate. Causes endothelial dysfunction.
I would heavily bet if you were eating lots of shakes with erythritol then you likely had a bunch of other garbage in them too. There are WAY too many companies making garbage products with lesser ingredients. They also often don’t rely on one single sweetener. Often have 2 or 3. Not that people don’t use personal experience, but it’s not very logically based reasoning to vilify erythritol.
Biggest red flag is you seem to make a claim it gave you food allergies. Not that it’s impossible, but you’d be probably patient 0 for that one.
Thomas is saying the study doesn't demonstrate that Erythritol is bad for you and that it is in fact better than consuming sugar. Furthermore, more studies that are well designed would be needed in order to indicate whether it is good or bad for us and whether it should be included in our diet.
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research.
But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups!
The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients.
For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million.
The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
Thank you.
It depends on the person, some are sensitive to sugar alcohols .
Is Thomas a world-renowned researcher publishing in top medical journals?
@winstonsmith480 you can go read the study yourself
30 grams in a single dose seems like a lot. They should be forced to publish the protocol they used to come up with the chemicals they mixed with the blood sample in the Petri dish to get the results they did.
Agreed. It seems much like studies of other sweeteners (such as aspartame) where the test subjects are given amounts that are much higher than the average person would consume, and it creates fear-mongering. I try not to consume too much of any of it (well, I struggle with added sugar but am still working on a better balance). Sometimes I have a drink that has stevia or erythritol, sometimes I have a diet soda. with sucralose or aspartame, etc. I also try to drink plain water every day. Moderation is key.
After that study I moved on from Splenda Stevia (with Erythritol) to Stevie (organic no Erythritol). Thanks for the information and clarity on this and whatever comes out of it, I am happy with my Organic 100% Stevia.
Thank you SO much for saying this, I have been using the splenda stevia for a very, very long time and thought the other day, what do I do EVERY single day - my issue isn't gastro but aches and pains and arthritis, tendonitis and stuff... maybe it's settling in my joints and tissues? I swapped to the splenda off sucralose, tried the erythritol by itself for a while and just didn't feel right and it had kind of an aftertaste, thought it was a good blend to have stevia w the erythritol. Gonna try your Stevie. Thank you!!!
The other question is, 30gram is 2 heaping tablespoons full. Who the heck consuming this much in one meal? I'm using Erythritol and Xylitol over years without any problems. The amount I use is relatively low, 2 -3 Teaspoon on a big pot of tea with lime and ginger. If you took too much, it could cause some gut trouble, this is a fact. It can change your microbiome negatively, too. Your Teeth get the biggest benefit. Anyway, thanks for your video which keep me awake about “Ancel Key's grandchildren” 😉
exactly
Anyone who uses it to make sugar free baked goods. If you make keto brownies or whatever, a single serving could easily have that much in it. Hell, anyone who likes their coffee sweet can pretty easily get there.
If you were to make a pint of sugar-free ice-cream, 30 grams is easily consumed
What a lot of people won't tell you is that if you mix alternative sweeteners, they can for the most part make up for each other's off flavors. Allulose tastes kinda like powdered sugar, Xylitol adds a weird minty effervescence which can be good in some foods/drinks but not in others, and Stevia is super sweet but tastes artificial to me. What I do is mix about 1 part Allulose to 2 parts Xylitol, and boost the sweetness with light sprinkle of Stevia. The result tastes almost exactly like Sucrose sugar in most things.
My experience, fwiw - I used allulose + erythritol to sweeten my coffee for months. I started to experience heart palpitations for the first time in my life (I have no cardiac issues and exercise regularly). I replaced the erythritol with ribose and trehalose, and palpitations ended after a couple of weeks.
@@WhatstheNarrative it may sound insane to you, but I’ve been drinking coffee for 40 years without palpitations, they started after consuming erythritol, then the palpitations stopped after I stopped ingesting erythritol. It seems pretty simple to me.
I believe Paul Saladino mentioned there was a study that showed negative effects on blood having granulated or processed sugar compared to sugar broken down from whole food, naturally absorbed through the body. I’d love to hear a video from you about that on how that works. ❤
Sucrose is probably what you are thinking of as table sugar. In those quantities it is processed, a 12 carbon sugar. But it is also naturally made by plants. Sucrose - Wikipedia
Sucrose, a disaccharide, is a sugar composed of glucose and fructose subunits. It is produced naturally in plants and is the main constituent of white sugar. It has the molecular formula C. 12H. 22O. 11 . For human consumption, sucrose is extracted and refined from either sugarcane or sugar beet.
So originally sucrose was simply eaten from sugar cane or beets. Sugar cane was called that because it has such high quantities of sugar naturally and that is why it is selected to boil it down into first syrup then eventually into crystals. That was better for long slow shipping by wooden sailing vessels back to Europe from Florida. I resent the loss of habitat in my native Florida to the sugar cane plantations in what was once a more vast swampy area in the southern tip. It helped reduce damage from hurricanes and we had more diverse wildlife then.
Saladino is a bit of an idiot though.
You're right but I disagree with your choice of words saying they "tortured it with chemicals", I think that type of phrasing should be reserved if they selectively tested for clotting in a dishonest way. It's not like in an honest experiment they would have waited until one of the test subjects developed a natural blood clot. Of course they have to do something to check the clotting ability of the blood. You're right that the study is not entirely representative of the effects of erythritol in the human diet. I'm not familiar with this research group but unless there's a reason to suspect dishonesty or if they were presenting their study with scare-tactics, there's no reason to attack it as if they are trying to mislead people. Plenty of studies are not 100% applicable to what they relate to in the real world, it doesn't mean the study is complete garbage. I'm certainly not afraid of erythritol after seeing this video but it just seems like bad form to swat aside the study with language like that.
The whole idea is that the study SUGGESTS something. You acknowledge this by saying more research should be done, but "tortured it with chemicals" will make some people think the whole thing is bogus. I assume you were just trying to prevent people from overreacting to the study.
My takeaway interpretation (just from this video) that it's a small risk-factor that is irrelevant to most people, but perhaps not all - that's probably the main practical implication worth mentioning
Obviously, there should be a long term double blind study including sugar and these other sweeteners with no one, including those doing the test, aware of the stuff being tested.
Have no fear!
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research.
But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups!
The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients.
For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million.
The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
This presentation plus all the great comments reminds me that I need to start working closely with my doctor to see what works and keep asking questions. Thanks for this one!
Erythritol makes me HORRIBLY sick to my stomach. Omg the worst. And took months to get normal again after I stopped using it. So sad..
I have this issue with a lot of artificial or sugar alcohol sweeteners. I can have about 1 diet soda a week, if I have 1 two days in a row, my stomach is doing backflips.. Some are worse than others, but all of them screw me up to some degree.
We are not all equal. If someone doesn’t take well to something, stop taking it. Artificial sugars do not affect me in any negative way and I am grateful for it. I love my artificial drinks 🙌🏼
Have you tried organic? Either way everyone has different sensitivities. Erythritol in general isn’t harmful.
Erythritol works great for me. But you just don’t want to eat a lot. They add a lot of it to the energy drinks and the chocolate chips. I would avoid those two things.
Stevia is mostly erythritol and no it does not do that, even among the chronically ill old people. What brand are you using, what dose are you taking? Elaborate. Do not spread sugar-industry falsehoods.
Do we know who funded the study? Sugar cane or corn (HFCS) growers? Or those who sell products containing these?
That's what I'm saying too!!
I don’t know bout anyone else but if it increases potential clotting 30 minutes after consuming or 30 hours after consuming-I DONT WANT IT.
I think 30 grams is like two tablespoons worth. Who eats that much in one sitting?
Plus, even greens have vitamin k which is a blood thickener. I bet if the blood was taken after eating a large amount of greens, put in a petri dish and manipulated like the blood in this study, it would clot too. But, I'm not going to stop eating greens.
I think it's a difference of natural body functions and manipulation in a lab.
Judging by your title alone, I should just never use sweeteners in my food again, but knowing your style, the study is messed up and I might be okay.
You know me. I love to make fun of these studies that claim “such seriousness”
Regardless of what Tom or any influencer says, the best thing you can do is stay the hell away from sweeteners. Especially anything human made or altered. Get your glucose from fruit and honey. You don’t need to add it and certainly don’t need some corporation who’s trying to gain your addiction to add it for you.
@@michaelmoellmann744
Yeah - fruit and honey is the way to go - then you don't have to even sweat/worry about the infrequent-to-rare times you ingest erythritol/etc (UNLESS, of course, you have an acute reaction - or a noticeable or significant reaction, over time - to it/to them. 👍)
It's SO fucking easy and SO natural.
@@michaelmoellmann744 ... Yeah, I can't disagree. I'm sure Thomas even agrees with that. I sadly just still lack the willpower to go FULLY natural in the world we live in.
@@michaelmoellmann744amen anything processed, stay away from it!!
NIH is funding the Cleveland Clinic which is who one of the researchers works for, NIH is govt funded most likely by lobbyists…I wonder…
No. You don't understand how the NIH works
My anecdotal experience with sugar and artificial sweeteners: I feel much better with a controlled consumption of raw cane sugar and avoiding all type of artificial sweeteners including sugar alcohols. During the periods in my life I skipped all sugars and consumed only artificial sweeteners and sugar alcohols I felt without energy and then reduced my activity and performances leading to increase of fat and lose of muscle
Don't you know sugar is the devil😂
Thanks for this video. I'll gladly keep eating my Lakanto sweetener.
I buy monk fruit sweetener which is claimed to be a powerful antioxidant but mostly all brands seem to contain Erythritol. It is really hard to find a keto friendly sweetener that isn't artificial with risks of osteoporosis and other bad illnesses
I had to find monk fruit and stevia that do not have erythritol added because I react badly to erythritol. There are some brands out there, but not much,
When the first poorly done "study" came out on erythritol, I thought that it might be funded by the sugar industry, and now again with this one? Can't say I feel any different today.
It always seemed odd to me. The stomach issues of eating it in somewhat large quantities is concerning to me and my own experience
Maybe it would be good to follow the money. Who paid for this study? Was it a company that had a monetary interest in making Erythritol look bad? As much as I like knowing about new research I realize companies with financial interests in products can manipulate studies to show what they want. If they don’t like what they find out you will never see the study. I wish that a study would show in big print who funded the study!
Anything processed and not natural is not good for you
Have no fear!
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research.
But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups!
The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients.
For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million.
The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
Thomas, I have a partial quad tear. Never got surgery for it, I'm 35. If you can make a video about whether its possible to grow muscle over an area that's previously been torn, it would be huge for me. It's been a year and the discomfort is still present, and i don't know whether I should pursue bodybuilding at all anymore.
I think "they" knew the outcome of the c-19 J.a.BBB so they now have to have a scapegoat.
I appreciate you breaking this down. I, personally, don't like erythritol or xylitol because they give me gastrointestinal issues so I am going to continue not including it in my n=1 experiment. If it doesn't do that for you, enjoy it on my behalf 😊
The 2 sodas you showed in the beginning of your video contain 0% erythritol. Both are sweetened by aspartame.
Thank You Thomas
Your Thumbnail faces are goofy for such good content
I'm so glad that you are able to explain this to us. Thank you so much, Thomas.
I wonder if a petri dish and our bodies are the same.
When samples of blood or tissue are taken from the body to be studied, they are usually "tortured" with other substances in order to be examined. There is a school of thought that this in and of itself manipulates the results and so there is a skepticism about microscopic diagnostic studies in general. This is worth seriously thinking about relative to ALL lab research methods.
But they “tortured” the platelets the same way to the glucose group with virtually no clotting right ??
Have no fear!
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research.
But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups!
The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients.
For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million.
The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
Yeah, and? Still I can't see any practical value.
He should do videos on the amount of hidden sugar in just about every single processed item that comes out of the food processing factories in this country, the concerning effect on our health, and the cost on our health, lives, and econony.
Who pays for these "studies"?
Almost certainly the sugar industry. But I don't know for sure.
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research.
But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups!
The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients.
For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million.
The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research.
But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups!
The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients.
For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million.
The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
@@xuriousmusic8119 They were funded by the NIH (National Institue of Health)
"Acknowledgements
This work is supported by grants from the NIH and Office of Dietary Supplements P01 HL147823, R01 HL103866 (S.L.H.), the Leducq Foundation 17CVD01 (S.L.H. and U.L.) and the Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft WI 5229/1-1 (M.W.). A.H. is a participant in the BIH-Charité Advanced Clinician Scientist Program funded by the Charité-Universitätsmedizin Berlin and the Berlin Institute of Health. The LipidCardio Study was partially funded by the Sanofi-Aventis Deutschland GmbH (I.D. and U.L.). P.P.S. was supported in part by an AHA postdoctoral grant 20POST35210937. The funders had no role in study design, data collection and analysis, decision to publish or preparation of the manuscript. We thank G. Deshpande (Department of Cardiovascular & Metabolic Sciences, Lerner Research Institute, Cleveland Clinic) for technical support during whole blood in vitro thrombosis studies. We also thank M. Ferrell for assistance in data analysis and T. Weeks (both at the Department of Cardiovascular & Metabolic Sciences, Lerner Research Institute, Cleveland Clinic) for editing the manuscript."
Will wait for another study.
Were those studies funded by the Sugar Consortium?
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research.
But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups!
The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients.
For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million.
The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
Probably 😂
No. They were funded by the NIH (National Institute of Health) and published in top medical journals. But, we can just believe what a guy with a youtube channel says
I hope Stevia is fine because it’s what I lean toward instead of sugar or aspartame/sucrose
Keep it simple, Don't consume artificial ingredients or processed food. Eat real fresh meats, veggies, fruits, and nuts. And as far as drinks go; Water is life.
Most sensible, worthwhile comment.
But for less sensible people like myself, I STILL want to know what are acceptable substitutes for sugary drinks... when just plain old WATER won't do.
It's a valid pursuit of knowledge regardless of how ideal.
@@pheresy1367 Understood. If you're looking for a "sugary" tasting substitute you're always going to be drinking something that's manufactured unless you use local harvested honey. If you just are looking for a drink with a "taste", how about herbal teas? There are fruit based herbal teas and other natural flavors.
That was my initial thought when I read the report! Well done Thomas!
The only sweet things I eat is fruit and local raw honey. If its not from nature - I dont consume it.
what about chciken
unfortunately that does not apply to erythrol...it is a natural substance
Your body makes it so bottoms up!
Very reasonable.
@@Amir_Nassir yes I eat mostly meat. All the chicken I eat - I raise.
Excellent video! Thank you so much!
Erythritol destroyed my gut. It took months to heal and get back to normal. I have a feeling there will be more bad news coming in the future.
It did not. Other things did. But you found an easy scapegoat because of low information.
I was waiting for this video, the study came a week ago so nice work as always Tom.
It should be common sense! STOP eating chemicals! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
How do you define chemicals? Should I stop taking creatine? Erythritol is naturally produced by our bodies as part of glucose metabolism. The study in question is not helpful for determining risk of ingesting erythritol and most likely an observation of reverse causation (high erythritol was circulating because the patients were sick, not the other way around). For example, you will notice, that there as absolutely no tracking of ingesting erythritol at all in this study.
Water is literally a chemical. I don't think there is a single thing that humans consume that is not a chemical, besides oxygen.
i just really appreciate your passion for studying these research papers that are published. So many of us are reaping benefits, if you will, from your passion. I am particularly happy that you dove a bit deeper regarding the erythritol since it and xylitol are the only two sweeteners I my body can tolerate, and quite well, other than Sucralose and saccharine. All the so-called faves, such as allulose and monk fruit, leave SUCH a cooling effect that I actually get nauseous. As expensive as those were, I tossed them out straight away. Also, I love the fact that, so far, every one of these 'episodes of discovery' I call them, that you present to us, causes us, or at least myself, to really think about what you are saying in regard to the studies which in turn helps me to remain calm rather than overreact. Which I find I am more prone to doing than I ever previously realized, lol. Have a blessed day, sugar.
note to self ...never inject unknown substances into my body especially if I just had erythritol ;) ...though I primarily am monk fruit and stevia with allulose on occasion
Lol
"...never inject unknown substances..."🤣🤣🤣
@@CatherineHurley-wk8ef thats solid advice ;)
I would pay attention to this. I switched from sugar about 2 years ago and within 6 months I was in the hospital with clots in my knee, my hips, and my right lung. Coincidence? Maybe for sure. I have no idea. But I changed to RXSugar after that just by chance. No additional problems for the last year or so.
How much were you consuming?
I have mild consistently elevated platelets and white blood cells since 2019, however I don’t think mine is caused by erythritol as I don’t consume it every day or consume a lot of it.
Thinking erythritol is better for you than glucose is crazy.
Erythritol makes you fart like crazy, that should be the biggest red flags
Better out than in is what I always say.
Not red flag, brown flag.
So no beans for you then either?
@traceybell3673 No beans sweetened with erythritol, at least. That would be tantamount to disturbing the peas 😂
Just like beans. Must be a red flag 😀
I really like your content. I love the way you break down information.
Hmmm blood clots oh right around the SAME time as the jab
Thank you Tom for your investigation ; I am much relived using small amounts like 10 grams in my breakfast . Henk from Amsterdam
funny how after the 💉new studies come out daily suggesting almost everything could cause heart attack but one thing... Here in Italy the said it was pizza (no joking)
They gotta come up with some way to explain all the blood clotting...
It may be a flawed study, but as a 20+ time a year Red Cross platelet donor, I’ll be discontinuing adding a erythritol sweetener to my protein shakes from here on out. Not gonna substitute with sugar, though.
Maple syrup is a good substitute
30 grams?! I might use two if I’m making a sweet iced coffee or frozen yogurt…