Captain America: Civil War vs. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - Marvel vs. DC At the Movies
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- The greatest superheroes turn against each other. My comparison of Captain America: Civil War and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
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#Marvel #Avengers #JusticeLeague
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. 2016.
Directed by: Zack Snyder.
Written by: Chris Terrio and David S. Goyer, Bob Kane (Batman created by) and Bill Finger (Batman created by), Jerry Siegel (Superman created by) and Joe Shuster (Superman created by).
Produced by: Wesley Coller, David S. Goyer, Geoff Johns, Curt Kanemoto, Benjamin Melniker, Bruce Moriarty, Christopher Nolan, Charles Roven, Jim Rowe, Deborah Snyder, Emma Thomas, Michael Uslan, & Gregor Wilson.
Starring: Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, Amy Adams, Jesse Eisenberg, Diane Lane, Laurence Fishburne, Jeremy Irons, Holly Hunter, Gal Gadot, Scoot McNairy, Callan Mulvey, Tao Okamoto, Brandon Spink, Michael Shannon, Kevin Costner, Harry Lennix, & Lauren Cohan.
Captain America: Civil War. 2016.
Directed by: Anthony Russo & Joe Russo.
Written by: Christopher Markus & Stephen McFeely, Mark Millar (comic book), Joe Simon (characters) and Jack Kirby (characters).
Produced by: Victoria Alonso, Mitchell Bell, Ari Costa, Louis D'Esposito, Kevin Feige, Alan Fine, Christoph Fisser, Stan Lee, Henning Molfenter, Nate Moore, Trinh Tran, Patricia Whitcher, Lars P. Winther, & Charlie Woebcken.
Starring: Chris Evans, Robert Downey Jr., Scarlett Johansson, Sebastian Stan, Anthony Mackie, Don Cheadle, Jeremy Renner, Chadwick Boseman, Paul Bettany, Elizabeth Olsen, Paul Rudd, Emily VanCamp, Tom Holland, Daniel Brühl, Frank Grillo, William Hurt, Martin Freeman, Marisa Tomei, John Kani, John Slattery, Hope Davis, Alfre Woodard, & Stan Lee.
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"What's your mother's name!?"
"Martha"
"My mommy's name is Martha too"
*Hugs*
"Wait, what's your father's name?"
"Jonathan"
"My father's name is Thomas"
Continues fighting*
And yes this a scene from the Teen Titans Go movie
The fact that the parody cartoon that nobody likes understood why the serious, greedy adult movie felt so stupid and actually embraced the stupid is... sad
WB may not know what it's doing, but it can certainly make fun of itself when it messes up
Funny enough Thomas is also the same first name of Aquamans dad.
@@brandonlyon730 'WhY diD yOU sAy tHAt NaME' in Ben Afflecks voice
The Martha thing has to be Stupidest Criticism of the movie, first time I watched the film I never thought it was because they’re Mother had the same name, simply because I’m not a simpleton
For me, the mark of Civil War's quality was this simple line from Stark:
"I don't care - He killed my mom."
"Martha" done right.
That line gives me chills every time
And some people still think that reason for Tony's rage was not justified.
The murderer of his parents is standing in front of him who is already wanted by the CIA and if tony kills him ...tony will face no consequences ...This was the best chance for tony to kill him and not face any consequences....why would he stop?
@@siddharthjajoria5305 it's somehow justified because of what you just said, but it's also unjustified, because he knew Bucky was brainwashed and it was not really James Buchanan Barnes who killed his mom but Hydra
That line is so amazing
Marvel just put in so much time and effort to build up to the moment, when the two heros fight. It's devastating for the audience, because we see how the friendship from Steve and Tony unravels. Everything they do is in character, except when Steve lies to Tony and as we see that has consequences. Civil war is also a great example to show, that just because a movie ends, it doesn't mean all is resolved. What happened in "Age of Ultron" and "Winter Soldier" had a really big impact on this movie, which also had an impact on "Infinity War".
Are you not questioning that this video came out at the same time as Filmento and both cover the exact same topic? What a curious coincidence :P
@latonya ingram Because you have not seen origin stories means you can't get into it?
I didn't know who John Stewart Green Lantern was mpr Wonder Woman when I first saw him in old Justice League cartoon and I liked him all the same.
@@samtemdo8 Not the origin story that's missing, you have nothing to show their personalities, so you can see how out of character BvS is supposed to be. Though you still technically get Batman's origin crammed in there, just so the Martha scene will have some context. There is no reason for you to think it's weird that Batman is this ruthless, only since MoS, and no sign that Superman is actually saving people constantly, he just shows up at the end of tragedies, picks up a couple corporate or government vehicles, and gets worshipped people in skull makeup.
Yes, it does help when your main characters have already had 1 or 2 successful standalone films to themselves. DC was trying too hard to create their universe ASAP, when they should have spent more time establishing their main characters for another couple years.
Steve didn't "lie" to Tony. He avoided telling Tony devastating information.
It's a tough situation because Tony isn't better off for knowing his parents were murdered. It's too late to hold responsible the people who murdered them. Killing Bucky is the equivalent of destroying the weapon. Only the weapon is a human that was mind-controlled and enslaved for decades. Bucky is just as much a victim as the Starks, if not more.
Steve recognized that and withheld the information out of mercy. It's only in hindsight, because of Zemo, that Steve's actions look bad.
What can I say? I´m a sucker for one-sided masacres
I don't consider myself a masochist but seeing my favourite characters fail because they were horrible treated is a bittersweet pleasure
@@JustKrin
IF you are talking about Batman, think of it as that he wasn´t your favourite character? I mean, Batman does not kill.
@@perezo27 if we are talking about this universe Batman, like he said, why is the Suicide Squad alive?
@@JustKrin Well...in BvS Batman kills.
Man, now that you said it, Suicide Squad Batman may be the best live action Batman? I mean, Affleck looks insane, and we can assume he has his detective side since we saw it in BvS, and he does not kill, which was the tiny little flaw he had in BvS.
I mean, Bale is basically a boxer with a fancy suit, he is missing the detective part to me, Keaton kills and I´m not even mentioning Clooney, Kilmer and West.
@@perezo27 people didn't have that problem in 1989 tho. funny how this no killing thing only came about after the nolan trilogy. a series of movies where batman kills someone in atleast each of them. i mean he rams the tumbler into a garbage truck most likely killing the driver.
or when people complain superman killed zod. yet that complaint wasn't there in 1980. when superman killed zod.
If civil war was batman v superman
*Tony is about to kill Bucky*
Cap: You r killing my best frnd, James (Buchanan Barnes)! Dont kill James
Tony: Why u say that name??!!
Bucky: Thats my name
Tony: My best frnd is named James (Rhodes) too
Cap: Dont worry we r BFF again
Fking studpidity 😂😂😂
Nice dude
Holy crap, why have i never realized that they're both named james?
@@kingpablothe1stoverlordoft871 me too man
Yeah actually DC fanboys just triggerd to marvel they jeleous
And also marvel comic also better than DC comic
Ok this shit is stupid
Having BvS come after Man of Steel is like having Civil War come right after the first Ironman movie
"Precisely!" - Scar in Lion King ( not that 2019 abomination )
Chris Lee haha not at all
Mark Peters bruh what are you talking about, bvs cane right after man of steel, this is exactly like that
Batman Begins (2005) and Superman Returns (2006) should’ve led up to Batman v Superman.
Both movies were one year apart from each other. Both movies were fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. Both movies looked and felt like they could’ve been connected.
Superman Returns referenced Gotham City. Not to mention, it grossed more money at the box office than Batman Begins.
I Am Legend teased a crossover between them for May 2010. The billboard in Times Square had Christian Bale’s Batman logo and Brandon Routh’s Superman logo merged together.
@@midsectionmark8956 What are you talking about
I think it's funny that marvel took one of the most polarizing comics and turned it into a beloved film
While in DC they took one of the beloved comics (the dark knight returns and the death of superman) and turned it into a polarizing film!
Yeah it's just pretty sad
Well put, couldn't phrase it better
Oh my god I just realised that.
Well said! :)
Exactly, 25 years ago, I'd never think an adaptation of Civil War would be better than Batman and Superman.
I always love these videos even though its always obvious which one is going to win.
Isn't it spam at this point?
You love it because we ALL know which is better, but the video breaks down point by point WHY it is, in a way we, the average viewer, are too lazy or preoccupied to do ourselves
@@Ebon_Sean ok that pretty good way to explain why im watching these kind of video thank
Did Thor rip your arms off and stick them up your butt?
@Noobmaster69 stop beating me in Fortnite
How can you say that Captain America doesn’t have a character arc. When we first meet Steve he is the loyal patriot, willing to do whatever it takes to serve, including sacrifice his life. Then he wakes up 70 years later to discover that country he and his friends sacrificed for has changed, for better and for worse. He also learned that the all powerful object he was willing to die to destroy is now being used to make weapons. As winter soldier opens Cap is still the loyal foot soldier just trying to follow orders, then he learns that shield, the organization that the love of his life, peggy, founded has been corrupted by hydra, the same group he was created to defeat. He also learns that his best friend has been corrupted as well. This is huge for Steve, because for the first time doing whats right and following orders aren’t one and the same. He also must grapple with the fact Bucky is trying to kill him and Steve is trying to find the guy who was always loyal to him somewhere deep down. This all leads up to the Sokovia Accords. It’s pretty obvious why Tony sides the way he does, he no longer trusts himself with the power he’s created, because many times over he’s created the monster he must face, and he’s guilty for the lives he had cost. However Steve’s arc is equally as striking. The Steve we first meet would’ve supported the accords, because he has that blind loyalty and will always do what his country asks of him. However, now although he still believes in the ideals of the country he fought for, he has seen what a possibly corrupt bureaucracy can do, he saw what it did to shield, and he saw what it did to Bucky. So he goes from the blindly loyal foot soldier to the man who still believes in American ideals, but will do what HE thinks is right regardless of his orders. Such as protecting Bucky at all cost, because Bucky did the same for him.
Yeah, I feel like he doesn’t fully understand the character growth of these characters, but what do I know
Funny thing
Cap's Friend
JAMES BUCHANAN BARNES
Iron Man's friend
James Rhodes
....save...JAMES
@@bonkboi4194 Why did you say that name?
Ivan Jonathan Mathew it's his best friends name
@@phntmknight its his secret boyfriends name
@@phntmknight 😂😂😂
Zemo's probably the . greatest underdog super villain in cinematic history. He spent 2 years piecing his plan together. he did all the fucking leg work. and he had a back up plan when his first one didn't work out.
And it was the first time in the MCU when the villain actually *won* - which then ensured that the Avengers weren't united to fight Thanos.
And nobody talks about this his goal was to kill or break up the avengers so he had a lot of back up plans and people call him luCkY
@@princeszdd9828 Yeah, if the package didn't arrive to blowout the power, he could have asked generic questions about Bucky and then left like normal, long before people would have gotten suspicious of whether he was actually the doctor.
When it said “Pit Bambi against Godzilla” I got an ad, and it cut it off the “Zilla” in “Godzilla”
“Pit Bambi against God”
I got one right between God and Zilla
Me too.
Why not
Something interesting I noticed about these movies.
In BVS, the fight between the two title characters ends because of one of the characters' mothers.
In Civil War, the final fight begins BECAUSE of one of the main characters' mothers.
Just 1 mother in CA CW
Batman spared superman not because they have the same mother's name I don't get why people can't understand that.
@@alphareturns5988 wdym he was literally about to stab Superman until he finds out that their mothers have the same name making him go, oh my gosh he’s literally me
@@cranjismcbasketball3513 uhhh no. He spares superman because he realized that superman isn't a bad person. That hes willing to lay down his life to save another. I guess superman said "martha" because he wanted to manipulate batman a bit. When he says "why did you say that name" he thinks it's a trick but when Lois says "it's his mother's name" batman releases that superman has a caring mother. Now he list his martha but now he has a chance for redemption.
@@alphareturns5988 At the deciding moment where Batman is about to kill Martha, he says save martha(even though he could have said it easily any time in the fight) then Lois says it’s his mother’s name. He doesn’t kill him because he realizes he has a caring mother, as earlier in the movie he says”I bet your mother taught you that”. He only realizes that Superman is a human because he and his mother have the same name. If Superman’s mothers name was Jessica, he would be dead. Also why would Superman in his dying moments call his mother by her first name
The weird thing is how everyone says Zimo's plan requires a lot of luck, it was actually pretty simple once it's assumed he already knew about the Tony's parents thing.
1) Find Ex Hydra agents and torture them to find out where their files are kept.
2) Broadcast that fact to Iron Man in the midst of the Sorkovia accords to guarantee a fracture in the Avengers.
1.5) Oh Shit! This asshole destroyed the documents leading to the base before I found his stash, thankfully the book still has good information.
2b) I need to find this Bucky guy but he's in hiding, frame his ass for something terrible so that the authorities get him for me.
3) Success, found the base by impersonating Bucky's evaluator, now to get those files.
4) Would you believe these guys actually followed me, guess I don't need to broadcast this now *presses play*
Rocketknightgeek The one lucky thing was no one knowing what the psych evaluator looked like
For step 4. Cap and Zemo both met directly when he was impersonating the Doctor, and Zemo left assassin mode Bucky with them. Bucky would obviously tell Cap where Zemo was going after the brainwash stopped, so it was easy to predict he would be followed by Cap. And he set up the corpse on the hotel for Iron Man to believe Cap and go there too. But if Iron Man didn't believe it or didn't find the way there. No big deal. Just escape and broadcast it.
@WiiManElite Hack Snyder sucks
He didn't know about Tony's parents. He knew something important happened on a particular date because it was in the info Black Widow dumped on the internet.
What the fuck is happening here
MCU and DCEU movies: Exists*
UA-camrs: Let's compare the two of them even though literally everyone and their mother knows which one is better
No hate btw just makin a joke. Just needed to clarify that in 2019
Yeah I agree dc has always been better
@@connorthepom errr marvel movies are MUCH better right now.
@@kaytsnd9329 Well, that depends if we go by the last 2 movies, DC has been better (Shazam! and& Aquaman being much better than Ant-man & the Wasp and Captain Marvel) so DC would be better right now, but of course Endgame is coming and that's going to be the best movie, after Endgame though, seems DC has a much better future.
@@Aramyx Dc needs too come on with it
@@Aramyx Shazam flopped though
"If their mother have different first name Superman would be dead... "
ROFL...
Who said that?
sentrogaspers9813 the narrator
No he wouldnt
@@Mayaxeditz i know that but I would've liked it better if superman was in his lowest point at that time , then when batman lifts the spear , he would say ' Save my mother ' begging him . Batman gets confused and stops then the scene continues.
What does ROFL mean?
Man I love the DC comics but comparing MCU with the DCEU is just plain insult for MCU. DCEU is not even a tiny bit close to what MCU did.
people keep using TDK as an excuse, but TDK is like one of the very few good DC movies, and TDK is not even part of the DCEU.
@@jollyjadentnt7963 Very few?
Batman 1989,Batman Returns.
Wonder Woman, Shazam, Aquaman, Joker, TDK trilogy
Superman 1978,Superman II
Terrible one?
Suicide Squad, Justice League
Superman 3 and 4
Batman and Robin
Catwoman.
@@wrestlinganime4life288 lmao u dumb? People said about DCEU kid
Wrestling Anime 4life man of steel, green lantern, birds of prey, bvs, batman forever, you left out a few more bad ones, compared to Marvel you could argue it has more bad movies than dc but it also has more good movies to dc, all 4 fantastic 4 movies, daredevil, ghost rider movies, Elektra, iron man 2, first two Thor movies, Howard the duck, etc; but then make a list of the good ones and it’s still long asf; iron man, blade, X-men, X-men 2, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, captain America trilogy, kick ass is a marvel movie sort of, infinity war, Deadpool, Logan, X-men days of future past and first class, the avengers, guardians of the galaxy, and those are just the top ones, there are still good marvel movies that are just not as good as these
Wrestling Anime 4life most of those are shit aswell and haven’t aged well so not much of a point
Zemo adjusts. That is established in the very first scene. The only time he really lucks out is towards the end, when he is spared the work to find a way to get Tony Bucky and Steve in one place in an emotionally charged moment.
And, far from defending Snyder, but in this infamous quote of him he is actually referring to watchmen.
Thank you ! I'm sick of people saying Zemo's plan convenitely falls into place he constantly adjusts to whatever situation is thrown his way, but I do dissagree with one point Zemo didn't "luck out" at the end Tony showing up at the end just made it easier for him but he didn't depend on Tony showing up he could've just leaked the video footage anyways.
Yes, I know, but that would have meant that the movie would have been 20 minutes longer to account for Zemo having to put whatever plan B he had in place, so he kind of got lucky and for once one of his plans worked without a hitch. The others didn't. Hydra-guy didn't talk, Bucky nearly got killed before getting captured due to the presence of black panther, Steve figured out his plan before he made it out of the base, Bucky never finished whatever order Zemo gave him because Steve stopped the helicopter from taking off, literally the only thing which worked was exactly the people he needed arriving in Siberia at convenient time. And even then he couldn't finish the last part of his plan because Black Panther stopped him from killing himself.
There's a wasted plot twist there, though. Someone in Team Iron Man could have selled the information on the Avengers to Zemo so that he could strike at the perfect moment, in hopes of forcing a decision towards Tony's side by force and manipulation.
That would have been awesome and a great plot device set up for further movies.
kinda wish that was what caused the civil war. Between the teams in combination with the accords.
I’m assuming you didn’t understand Zemo’s plan completely, which is fine, it is still complex. Let me explain:
1. Get the mission report from the Hydra dude. He doesn’t cooperate, so he goes with plan B (he even says he has to use bloodier methods).
2. Bomb the UN and blame the Winter Soldier. When he is captured, active him and make him tell you about the mission.
3. Go to Russia, get the tape of Bucky killing Tony’s parents and send it to the Avengers. Since they came to him, he played it for them there.
The only convenient thing that happened was that the Avengers were already split, making it easier for him.
Zemo probably had the resources to learn about the Sokovia Accords while it was being discussed behind the Avengers' backs and would be intelligent enough to guess that some Avengers would oppose it while others wouldn't, thus fracturing the ranks.
He could probably guess that Iron Man and Cap would come down on opposite sides but there would be a risk they would both end up on the same side of the argument - his releasing the tape to Tony Stark would be the wedge to drive them apart.
Yes but what if cap had already told Tony about it. What If Tony didn't react the way zemo wanted him to.
@@filmnerd4508 Well, he knew how Tony would react, because Zemo knows how it feels to want revenge and so he knows Tony would want revenge. He said he had studied the Avengers for about a year, and even Wanda, who had one small glimpse into Tony's mind knew how rashly Tony would act as she said in Age of Ultron, so Zemo, who had studied him for a year would definitely know. And if Cap had told Tony about it, Tony would've done everything he could to find Bucky, and as he didn't, Zemo knew that Tony didn't know.
Give me a M
Give me a A
Give me a R
Give me a T
Give me a H
Give me a A
What do you spell?
A bad movie
*an A
lightning hood fuck you too n word
@@lightninghood7876 No. No. No. The n word is not ok. Pls dont use it again :/
BvS is worse though
@@lightninghood7876 f*** to you to
So DC turns two great comics: The Death of Superman and The Dark Knight Returns into a polarizing film, while Marvel turns one of the most polarizing comics: Civil War, into a beloved film.
Civil war somehow pulls off having so many characters in it.
Infinity war and endgame: .........
Infinity War and Endgame: Am I a joke to you?
Civil War final battle, the dialogue was amazing.
Tony: Do you even remember them?
Bucky: I remember all of them.
Cap: This isn't gonna change what happened.
Tony: I dont care. He killed my mom.
Cap: He's my friend.
Tony: So was I.
Tony: Stay down. Final Warning.
Cap: I could do this all day.
Tony: That shield doesn't belong to you. You don't deserve it. My father made that shield!
Bvs : MAARTHAAA
@@raz2832 Lol
They did show that Zemo's plan had hiccups too. With the agent he was interrogating for the book but refused to talk. He had a plan but adjusted if anything went a way he didn't expect.
Me watching Civil War: On the edge of my seat
Me watching Batman vs Superman: Trying not to fall asleep
Batman Begins (2005) and Superman Returns (2006) should’ve led up to Batman v Superman.
Both movies were one year apart from each other. Both movies were fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. Both movies looked and felt like they could’ve been connected.
Superman Returns referenced Gotham City. Not to mention, it grossed more money at the box office than Batman Begins.
I Am Legend teased a crossover between them for May 2010. The billboard in Times Square had Christian Bale’s Batman logo and Brandon Routh’s Superman logo merged together.
I thought ultimate edition was great.
@@alphareturns5988 I think whatever people see in theaters is the main thing that matters
@@noahadams2524 exactly dc fans always say that.Ultimate edition is good.Snyder cut is good.If DC was actually good,they wouldn't need a second chance
@@skullrevenant9573 that's because WB's executives were stupid. It's not the first time a studio messes up the vision of a director. If they had put the Ultimate Edition (which was meant to be the theatrical release) and a 3 hour version from the Snyder Cut, everything would have been way way better and coherent.
Cap(DC): what did it tell you if you take the last white, red and blue sprinkled donut?
Tony(Marvel): it would rain hell fire
Cap(DC):That's right
Tony(Marvel):And here I am without an umbrella
Wanda(Fans):Arrghhh!!
Can someone explain this to me?
@@percyjackson8672 just search captain america civil war last donut tv spot video, your welcome
This comparison has been done by other channels, and the 7:0 score is dead-on. The biggest takeaway should be, you need a shrew movie exec who's also a comic book fanboy at the helm, that is, a Kevin Feige. WB didn't and still don't have a Keige, so they've relied solely on the directors to interpret the characters. And boy, Snyder doesn't know jack sh!t about either Batman or Superman, or any of their supporting characters. Such a waste of great material.
I asked my friend at work the other day, "Who's the Stan Lee of DC Comics ?" He didn't have an answer. Sadly, neither did I. DC has gone through so many editors, I can't name one person, except Julius Schwartz, who stands out. But Schwartz was never a Personality like Stan was. Maybe this is the reason DC hasn't tagged someone as their Kevin Feige. It's not in their nature.
Zach Snyder is just like Tim Burton. All flashy visuals and flashy style but no substance and character and story development.
@@Paul91- At least Tim Burton has good visuals
@@Paul91- I'll take Tim Burton over Zach Snyder any day
@@paulcoy9060 Scott Synder. Scott Synder is the closest thing to the Stan Lee of DC comics
As CinemaWins put it, Zemo's plan didn't require luck. It's just the one we see that works. Would you really want to see all the failures of his plan? What would it have done for the movie?
It was clearly shown in the movie that he had multiple back up plans. Remember when he went to Cleveland to get that book and info about Dec 16, 1991 but didn't got anything....that's where he used his plan B
Lol stop it did require luck! However something I say about all movie, LIFE is a matter of unforeseen things happening either in favor of one person or unfavorable for someone else. Complaining about someone being lucky in a movie is silly and usually by someone who doesn’t understand the concept of a movie in the first place.
Mark Peters it’s just called being organized, prepared. Yes things often go wrong but it’s not like it always does, it’s honestly just really simple if you put it down to the basics
@@JV-yq7dx Yes. Zemo had a simple plan. Cleveland, get the info, done. (to put it very very simple) but that one failed. but he didnt care bc he already had a back up plan. so he used that. he was very well prepared to do anything required of him to succeed
The only real thing he really had luck on was Iron Man actually fighting Cap and Bucky instead of having a peaceful resolution. That's really it.
Cap was in the right when it came to defending Bucky. Nobody is blaming Hawkeye when he was under a spell. An they would not have blamed anyone else on the Avengers. It wasn't Bucks fault. Cap was defiantly 100% in the right. Tony should have lost it on the evil guy. It is the same thing Quill did in Infinity war.
Yeah thats why in Infinity War Tony was the first one to realize what Quill was doing, because he did the same thing two years ago.
Don't forget that Cap keep that info away from Tony so no one is on the right side there...
It was not Zemo who killed his parents, it was Bucky ......I mean it's really clear who he will blame when he SAW that Bucky BRUTALITY kills his parents.
Totally called this from the beginning! I love Civil War and you do a fantastic job of explaining what makes it so great!
i called it too, but mainly because i saw a couple other vids from him and he always praises everything marvel does and criticizes everything dc does.
Jack M not really, he does put dc above marvel if it deserves too, he has shown to be interested in shazam, the dark knight, joker, batman 89, Wonder Woman, the problem is that dc has very few good movies compared to marvel which has a plethora of good to great movies with a lot more bad ones than dc but that’s bc it has more movies
There is a moment in both movies where they appear to be approaching the same type of ending. After a morally firm patriot (Superman/Cap) fights a rich douchebag (Batman/Iron-man), they unite and discover a mindless and unreasonable monster connected to the patriot (Doomsday/supersoldiers) put into motion by a smart villain (in opposition to the said patriot in the comics) behind it all (Luthor/Zemo). However, they resolve this in completely different ways. Civil war nails it while BvS fails, of course.
BvS decides to throw away the conflict that's been at the heart of this movie all this time by making its titular superheroes suddenly make peace in an inconvenient way. The movie stops being Batman v Superman as the title would suggest.
CW, on the other hand, decides to be what it is in its entirety. It explores Iron-man's conflict with Cap right until the very end. The movie stays true to what it's supposed to be about and honours the story.
BvS makes the heroes unite in order to defeat a bigger enemy that's thrown in the movie very late. Also, that enemy is nothing more than a mindless beast. Therefore, the fight becomes nothing more than a flashy CGI spectacle.
CW doesn't make the heroes fight the supersoldiers. Instead, they are killed off while still serving their purpose. They add a lot to the villain and his purpose of propelling the conflict between the heroes, instead of making BvS' mistake of uniting heroes to fight a boring and underdeveloped enemy.
BvS doesn't compliment its villain. The villain's motivation to release the beast is nonsensical and uninteresting. The consequences of his actions are non-existent, except for the death of one of the heroes that we know will be undone in the next movie. Therefore, it's worse than inconsequential. It spends time introducing a consequence that isn't permanent nor emotional.
CW compliments its villain by making him actually succeed in his intention of pitting the heroes against each other.
I completely agree
Well said.
Was pretty obvious who was going to win this
iTS ObViosLy bAtMAN vS SUpERMaN
this guy seems extremely biased so i'm guessing it's always obvious.
Jack M or maybe because bvs is a shit movie. Doesn’t take a genius to see that
Yeah. Martha wins!
I prefer ultimate edition
Wanna hear a joke?
BvS is a masterpiece.
The thing is there are actually people who believe that
@@peterjoyfilms "Well, here I am"
@@peterjoyfilms true. It was a masterpiece. Anyone who says otherwise better have substantial reasoning, else their just sheep.
@@nedflanders5442 batman vs superman was dark boring no action till the end and wasn't thought out at all
@@a.c4373 boring an dark, subjective, opinion. Not enough action in the first two acts, subjective opinion. how was it not thought out at all?
The fact that people praise BVS makes me so mad I’ve been studying film for years and it just makes me mad that people just blindly praise it
If anyone unironically says that Batman v Superman is better than Civil War, that's basically an admission that they're a moron. Not EVERYTHING is a matter of opinion; everyone's tastes are different, but in some cases that just means that some people have _bad taste._ Batman v Superman is a _bad film,_ on almost every level. I'm not saying you can't enjoy it if you're undemanding enough, and it does have a few good bits (Wonder Woman), but if you claim it's _better_ than Civil War you are simply *wrong.* The end.
The biggest problem is that they assume that opinions can't be wrong. Liking a movie doesn't mean that it is better than another movie, it just means that you like a bad movie.
@@archmage7813 Absolutely. The idea that "an opinion cannot be wrong" is one of the biggest recurring logical fallacies of the modern day.
So many people just like things that are dark and gritty for no real reason. The darkness and supposed grittiness overshadows any other flaw a movie might have for them. They conflate darkness and grittiness with maturity and complexity.
I like BvS but I've never blindly praised it. I think a lot of the criticism it gets is misplaced. I also don't appreciate personal attacks. I will always defend the movie against those sorts of things. If you say aspects of the writing and directing is bad, we can talk. If you have nothing but "I want exactly what's in the comics" or "Zack Snyder sucks", I'm going to defend against that sort of thing.
How about Black panther vs Aquaman?
Or Thor Ragnarok VS Aquaman? That should actually be a more interesting comparison video and not a so obvious who is going to win video like this one.
@@Paul91- who do u think would win
@@a.c4373 I haven't personally seen Aquaman, but judging on reviews from both movies, I think Black Panther would win (though not as obvious as here)
@@bluechick7113 agreed
They are make 1 billion and have hot guy .Two guy trying figure out how to be king.
It's funny that Jeremy from Cinemasins thought that Batman V Superman would be better than Civil War because the movie contains Batman and Superman, two of the most popular superheroes while claiming that no one cares about Captain America. It's funny how that turned out
With regards to Zemos plan being luck based, I'd contend it was simply a plan that was adapted as the situation called for it
From the beginning, Zemo was after the CCTV footage of Bucky killing Howard and Maria Stark. All he needed was to find the location of the tape, and once he had it, he could release it at any time he wanted. He had the bullet loaded into his gun. All he'd need to do is fire it at the right time.
He framed Bucky for the UN Bombing because that would either draw him into the open and out of hiding, or everyone would be looking for him, including the Avengers, and would eventually catch up to him, as well as providing a distraction for the authorities while Zemo could operate under the radar.
It was a happy coincidence that all three players showed up together, so he took the opportunity to fire his silver bullet after they had already locked horns and had reservations about trusting each other as completely as they had before.
He didn't need to show the footage there and then. He could have just as easily held onto it and released it at a later date, or even more publically, and it would have had the same effect. He only showed it there while all three of them were together because it would have a more immediate impact, capitalising on Tonys reckless and emotionally driven decisions he tends to make in the spur of the moment.
Though some luck was involved, it was never integral to Zemos game plan
Yep, exactly, it was all ever about that tape. Everything else was just circumstance that he was using to get to that point
If you told ANYBODY 11 years ago that a Superhuman Civil War adaption would utterly slaughter a Batman V Superman adaption you would’ve most likely been committed, it’s amazing how things change isn’t it?
You acting like it changes reality....batman and superman will always be bigger
Fun fact: Jessie Eisenberg was cast to play the Riddler. The script changed and the villain went from Riddler to Luthor, but they kept him on as the villain for some reason. That's why there's such an obvious miscast.
Wiebejamin Ed Harris or Bryan Cranston should have been Luthor.
Jesse Eisenberg would have been a good riddler.
@@biguy617 Cranston Luthor? Bruh sign me up.
Tony is more responsible than anyone else for the creation of Ultron.
Wanda: ........
I loved how they portrayed Tony's emotions after finding out truth about his parents. I don't want to think about wheather it is justified or not for him to kill Bucky, it is about that this part brings true emotioms to this character. It feels real, and brings you closer to the character and makes you root for him.
Fun fact: the theme for winter soldier is actually Steve yelling Bucky and Bucky yelling when he falls of the train in WWll. The screams are just slowed down and slightly distorted.
Great video, even though I obviously knew who'd come out on top I still liked to see your prespective. Also I'm sick of people saying Zemo's plan convenitely falls into place he constantly adjusts to whatever situation is thrown his way.
My favorite scene in Civil War was the quiet discussion between Zemo and Black Panther. How Zemo described his family's death, apologizing for killing T'challa's father and obviously took no joy in his revenge, and T'challa's awesome response:
"Vengeance has consumed you. It's consuming them. I'm done letting it consume me. Justice will come soon enough."
"Tell that to the dead."
"The living aren't done with you yet."
Love that dialogue.
My favorite dialogue is:
"He's my friend."
"So was I."
The quieter moments like these are my favorites in Civil War. Even above the action and airport battle.
My favorite moments are during the fight between cap and iron man.
Well one of the two movies was advertised as dark and gritty and ended up being mediocre at best & other one was advertised as colorful, fun and comic booky and ended up being pretty dark and gritty.
So yeah it's pretty obvious which one is superior over other.
I get what you mean, but the first trailer for Civil War was far from "fun and comicbooky".
I prefer ultimate edition
Supporting characters: Tom Hardy as Venom... Wait a second... What?
He's so sarcastic
Civil war &a Winter soldiers r the only movies in history I keep returning and watching it over n over again
Same here, at least in terms of MCU anyways.
right! The Russo brothers did a great job directing it
Tony: *stand down!*
Steve: *i could do this all day-- I mean MARTHA!"*
Tony: 0.o ...idk.. *blasts him*
My friend: DC or Marvel?
Me: Marvel, because DC is too dark.
Friend: Well they both have death and destruction...
Me: No, the films are too dark, I can’t see anything that’s actually happening.
Lol this made me laugh.
Ngl I do feel the need to inform people that I do also happen to have terrible vision (vision 😭) anyway, so if I can’t find my glasses, I can’t tell what’s happening in any movies. 😂
Dc is making a comeback.
21:20 YES! Some love for Zemo’s theme.
I loved the retelling of Zemo as a domestic terrorist, is what I expected from the Madarin but oh well. There's nothing worst than seeing a powerful man who has nothing to lose
Earth Fire Water to be fair they were going for a very different thing with the Mandarin. It was still commentary on terrorism, just from a different angle.
@@ThePonderer on yes, I understood what they were trying to do. But I liked that change of him being like Bin Laden that when the twist came I was like WTF?
Yes I loved that part because Zemo's theme is amazing.
@@JustKrin I actually like that plot twist however Killian is a worse villain.
MCU is like spreading butter on a toast
DCEU is like spreading butter ona toast while being severely depressed
I thing Snyder changed Luthor to Jr. because, as a self proclaimed Ayn Rand fan he couldn't see a self made man as the villain, but turning him into a worthless heir didn't was a sin.
Fair point! Which completely contradicts the idea behind the best depictions of Lex Luthor as a whole: someone who strongly believes that no man should be born with too much power, and fights superman either to prove that people can defend themselves without the need of a higher power, or as a byproduct of their totally differing contexts.
Lex Luthor (a good Lex Luthor, of course) could have retroactively made the DCEU like... 10 times better throughout the movies (like by taking the spot-light in Justice League and making other less developed characters more secondary, thus letting them be blank slates for their solo movies, for example). Shame on them...
Nop, he is the real Lex, son of Lionel...
The Lex Luthor I know would’ve disowned that twerp unless he had some sorta use for him.
@@YouMakeMyMotorRun Lex Luthor never cares about humanity, he is just a childish arrogant.
Superman: SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!!
Just awesome.
What if Tom Holland said...
“I was told by someone who was close to me... that with great power comes great responsibility... I should’ve believed him then”
While I like what you did,I think Marvel was trying to avoid comparisons to the Raimi movies.
bull705 yeah they wanted to not reference them that much cause everyone knows the backstory kind of and they wanted something new
@@princeszdd9828 but it is inegral to the character. That said, they still made his motive clear.
Was there even any point in doing this video? We all know from the start that Captain America Civil War was going to win. Marvel will always beat DC in films these days. No matter how many angry edgy Zach Snyder DCEU teenage bone headed emo fanboys will tell you otherwise. Oh boy. This comparison video is once again like the Avengers VS Justice League video and the Guardians of the Galaxy VS Suicide Squad Organized Chaos video going to be a total slaughterfest. Definitely another clear win for Marvel.
You know if batman didn't kill in that movie, the Martha moment would have made much more sense. If Batman is about to kill Superman, making him Clark the first life Bruce has ever taken, Clark mentioning his mother makes Bruce realize he's about to kill someone's son. Batman would realize that he has become Joe Chill, and he is about to kill the boy in crime alley.
One thing I genuinely do not understand is Snyder's original plan for Jimmy Olsen. He wanted Jesse Eisenberg to play the role because he saw him as an insufferable bad actor... yet he gave him the role of the biggest bad guy?
It doesn't matter...things like:
1-Lex is like Earth3 version (like the Riddler) but he looks like a bad copy of Ledger...and that "is Lex Jr" stuff is a lie, is Lex Luthor, son of Lionel Luthor.
2-Doomsday is not Doomsday, The monster with spiked and green pants is still on space, and this is only Zod mutated with Lex Blood.
3-Dick Grayson killed by Joker (practically killing the possiblity of existence of Red Hood and Nightwing)
4-Indroducing characters without their movies (like The Flash or the Green Lantern on JL2) Aquaman and Cyborg are not problem, Arthur's arc is good (BvS cameo, original JL and Solo movie) and Cyborg's arc can be in JL movies...but things like WW and Shazam aren't part of his "sAgA"
4-Supergirl being 1000 years older than Clark in that stupid MoS prequel comic.
6-Killing Batman in JL2...
This point can work, Darkseid die and he died in a epic sacrifice like Final Crisis, yeah, is a good idea...¡¡¡AFTER A GOOD BUILTED CU AND NOT IN THE FUCKING SEQUEL, WHAT IT WAS PLANNED ONE STUPID YEAR LATER!!!!!!
Jesus...sometimes i hate Zack.
Something I only just realised when you put it in this context (and you yourself, oddly, did not point out) is that when Tony comes to recruit Spider-Man and asks Peter why he does what he does, Peter's famous response would actually align him with _Cap,_ not Iron Man. "When you can do the things that I can and you don't, when the bad things happen they happen because of you" sounds an awful lot like "What if we need to go somewhere and they won't let us?" Honestly, with the reveal in Spider-Man: Homecoming that all Tony actually told Peter about the mission was that "Captain America went crazy" then despite how much Marvel are playing up the surrogate father-son dynamic between the two, Tony basically _tricked_ Peter into fighting on his side.
One company names its movie "civil war" as there is an civil war between a team in the movie
Another company names its movie "bat man vs superman" as they both gona fight for 5 minutes in tha movie and there is also another main threat in movie, just to make a false markating to audiance with trailers which shows like that 5 minutes part is the entire movie.
Deside which is better
Patrick Swayze as Dalton
A character so great he transcends his original film and enters all other films.
@@OrganizedChaos14 Agreed!
"The world has never become a better place through a lie"
phone rings in 1983
"Comrade Petrov, we just got an automated message from the computer that the capitalist pigs have started their missiles. Why did you not inform us yourself so that we can counterattack immediately?"
"Comrade General, because the computer is malfunctioning."
"Are you sure about that?"
(long pause)
"Ahem, yes"
"Good, good. World may live on then."
You right, my guy
I don't think people understand that Batman's line about a 1 percent certainty is actually logical. The weight of the danger matters more than the chance of danger
Except for the fact that Superman flies around the world saving people all the damn time. And both Batman and Lex Luthor know that Superman has a weakness and could be killed with a "silver bullet" as Lex puts it. It's just a "cool" line to try and give some weight and reason for Batman wanting to kill Superman but it falls flat cause the film constantly contradicts itself.
Mikey Mike It is a fact that that line is logical. Although Superman had done nothing wrong.
Yeah, but the logic is faulty. By his own logic, he's also danger to the world.
parkerboy795 yeah I get it. He does seem to really just be fueled by anger.
I mean Ironman created the Hulkbuster to fight the Hulk, but he doesn’t actively try to kill him. And the chance that Hulk goes rampage is like a million times higher than Superman goes rampage.
I think even Lex Luthor Jr. has the better logic than Batman with “creating the silver bullet but not actually using it”, and that said something about this movie.
To this day, I have a hard time watching the Tony and Steve fight. It hurts, like a child watching their parents fight. I feel nothing when batman and superman fight because they had no development to that point. In the Dark Night Returns comic, they had a long history with each other which is why that fight worked.
No development? The whole movie goes through that development and Batman, just like in TDKR, is supposed to have a long history in Gotham and already two years investigating Superman. Even if not a long history with Superman, that's what we are seeing. Instead of them starting being friends and then having a problem, it's them having a problem to then become friends. Just as valid for a story.
‘’Sure, why combine two elements in a way that makes sense, when you can just combine whatever you want and let the narrative be damned’’
I can’t get enough of that line
the mcu in my opinion is better than the dceu
At this point I don't care. I just want both of them to be great.
Think you're confusing Fact and Opinion there bud
I don't like BvS, but I don't think you can blame Batman for killing those people. They were actively shooting at him - that's attempted murder.
True but they should have batman brutalize the criminal rather than kill them
Yay, Martha. Wooo 😑
should have been "have to save my mom" or something because batman would still get a connection and realize that he could stop what happened to his mother and himself with clark
True, but they would also have to emphasize that that’s why he didn’t kill him
Man, I was so excited with BvS when the trailer showed up.
After watching it, it left me broken.
Since that day, I swear to never see a DCEU movie again, ever!
I feel you bro... Chose BvS over sex that time and it's the biggest regret that I have made my entire life
I have been wanting a Batman v Superman movie for years. Now I want a *good* Batman v Superman movie.
The last two solo Superman outings were pretty shitty, too. _Superman Returns_ very nearly put me off Brandon Routh as an actor and _Man of Steel_ very nearly put me off watching anything starring Henry Cavill. To my surprise, I quite enjoyed Routh in _Dylan Dog: Dead of Night_ and Cavill's performance in _The Man from U.N.C.L.E_ - seems that the faults I had previously observed lay with the scripts and Directors, not the actors.
IKR? This is the movie, that when justice league came out and my sister asked me if i wanted to go watch it with her, made me say “No, because I don’t trust DC to make good movies”
Id say wache shazam cus its an actual good movie
THATS WHAT I CALL A FATALITY!
WOOOO GO MARVEL!
Zemo’s plan didn’t require luck to work
His plan was to get the reports from December ..... in Serbia, show the video to Stark and then Stark would (try) kill Bucky and split the avengers
That plan would work on its own
He was lucky that the Avengers was going through a divorce which he made even worse by bombing the UN
And at the end he was just lucky that Tony, Bucky and Steve followed him so he could show the video right away and not wait (I don’t think that was originally a part of his plan)
If you think trough the plan it gave sense. And all the other things came as a bonus
Zemos family was killed by the actions of avengers
Tony create ultron and all the avengers supports him
But the ultron turns evil
When DCEU fans come here to defend DCEU MCU fans would smash them with facts. (You came to the wrong neighbourhood) I was literally reading comments and it's been like that.
Civil war was better handle.
The MCU stomp DCEU in terms of money and quality.
However..
Comics,animated series ,video games ,score ,DC wins.
@@wrestlinganime4life288 we're talking DCEU, you toxic fangirl. It's people like who can't be taken seriously during a debate.
@@FYourOpinions I said the MCU stomp the DCEU..
Your point?
Bro I knew It was Gonna be bad FOR DC But this was a massacre
line of the video
"might as well pit bambi against Godzilla"
😁
As a MCU fan, I think the main rule these characters have is s much as possible, don’t kill anyone. Unless it becomes necessary. I haven’t seen the DCU movies so I can’t speak for them, but based on what you said about Batman and Superman, I guess the better role models would be the MCU heroes. Just my opinion though.
I vote for a reboot of the DCEU!!!
NO!
Without doubt, for wakanda
@@dilophosaurussk4333 no?😂😂😂😂😂. What are they gona do about batman and superman? Recast?. Its disaster. Let them reboot.
@Neo-Xgray87 WB already said that the DCEU is dead.
I think they should stick wuth the DCEU.
While they got things wrong, it seems like they are now in the right direction.
Both Wonder Woman and Aquaman are not amazing movies, and they continue the DCEU's biggest problem: lack of good characters. But they are still good movies.
And I think both Batman and Superman should be gone from the DCEU and reintroduced later on (just like Spiderman in the MCU).
MARVEL vs DC
UA-camRS: We know for for sure which one is the better but lets create a video for the sake of views
I thought you said Jeremy Renner as Hot Guy
Why do DC fans say that Endgame copied Batman v Superman? I don't see any similarities.
@kavikiru kavikiru That works too.
@BALA KRISHNA There's also A dumb conspiracy going on that Geoff Johns "Leaked" The Snyder Cut to Kevin Feige. They're evidence? Because Thanos was the villain, Iron Man died, Time Travel was in it, he works at DC and him and Kevin Feige are friends.
Oh Boy, The salt is Real!
Also IW was planned way before
*murder in the first degree*
The worst part of Batman vs superman is Lex Luther isn't BALD!
At the end of the movie he was bald but he didn't do anything at the end of the movie
In Batman vs Superman, both main characters are killing people, who in the DC comics have a strict no kill policy
And some where Grace Randolph is tearing her hair crying. Screaming you can't compare movies to one another.
Even though she always does it.
@@jordansweet8054 what she means don't make bad I like look bad.
@@marcusluera89 I'm glad someone understands what she says.She calls Guardians of the Galaxy a failure; that's where she lost me.
@@jordansweet8054 according to her so was Spider-Man homecoming, both ant man movies. It's like she hates marvel for firing her ass.
With way the DCEU is setup. It's basically like making Iron Man then skipping to Civil War to make the Avengers. DC really fucked up.
Greed got in the way
I’ll be honest, I don’t think DC fucked up, I think Zack Snyder and Warner Brothers fucked up. Just a thought.
@@trududesly1463 how did zack mess up?
Tony: "Did you know?"
Steve: "I didn't know it was him"
Tony: "Don't bullshit me Rogers, did you know?"
Steve: ".............. yes"
chills, literal chills.
That moment you realize, Civil War is simplified version of Kingdom Come
Batman v superman was the reason a freind of mine didnt see civil war in teaters becuase she was like " why do All the heros have to fight now" she thougt marvel was copieng DC.
DC making so bad movies it effects the rest of the Superhero segment 🤪
Sadly that was me.
BvS: We have Batman & Superman Fighting each other for stupid reasons, Wonder Woman Shows up out of no where and the movie is dark and sinister to make you care! Plus we introduce the rest of the Justice League! Beat that Marvel!
CA Civil War: HaHaHa😁
Hold my beer.
That was DC mistake...
Thinking they can built JL in ONE YEAR.
@@andresanguianozuniga6798
And Suicide Squad had nothing to do with BvS.
Do you know what else was nebulous about Superman?
*his mouth*
I truly believe that “Civil War” is the best MCU film, & one of the best action/superhero movies of all time. Most epic, and they had reason behind everything, and they had so much at steak. I love Infinity War & Endgame, but Cap3 does it the most for me 👍🏽
I'm not sure about it or Guradians of the Galaxy but I agree.Love Infinity War and Endgame but Civil War just ricks.
Henry Jackman deserves more recognition.
5:30
“It’s like putting Bambi against Godzilla”
I actually got a Godzilla ad there
They had a GREAT blue print. Why not use the Animated version of Batman and Super man adventures? Where they went against Lex and Joker. (Worlds Finest)
World's Finest is one of the great storylines in the animated series and the comics.
"Patrick swayze as Dalton..." 😂
He wasn’t doing nothing for 18 months he was planing.
You need to pit marvels worst against DC’s best
Incredible Hulk vs Wonder Woman
SPEED EZ technically incredible hulk doesnt count cause no
Wonder woman was a brilliant movie though DC sucks
You dumbass how tf does that make sense if it the best DC is going to win DC fanboy just wants to see it win don't you
Worst of MCU is either Dark World or Iron Man 2 not Incredible Hulk.
@Bradyn Kerr I guess, like First Avenger or Far From Home.
Marvel's 'Captain America V. Iron Man: Dawn of Infinity' (2016) vs DC's 'Batman V. Superman: Dawn of Justice' (2016)
Marvel's 'Avengers: Infinity War' (2018) vs DC's 'Justice League: Pre-Final-Crisis' (2017)
I think it’s even worst when both of them came out the same year and civil war completely overshadowed bvs
Civil War: Mummy, daddy pls stop fighting
BvS: Two dudes fighting
It's literally the exact opposite,
@@sarck_tick nope
what's sad is being so bias you cannot appreciate a well made film like Civil War
both films that use a similar narrative but one executes it flawlessly
Exactly