I Tried Finding My Kibbe Body Type
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
- Let's try and find my Kibbe Type together! In this video I do a basic explanation of the Kibbe system, take the Kibbe quiz to see which body type I am, and then spiral into the Kibbe rabbithole and express my semi-extensive thoughts on this personal style system and try and see if it's worth it to try and help us improve our fashion and style choices.
00:00 Introduction
02:00 What is the Kibbe System?
03:15 Some retrospective disclaimers
05:22 The Kibbe Families / Types
8:26 My Initial Predictions
10:25 Taking the Quiz
19:06 Disclaimer re: results / conclusion
20:00 My Results
23:55 Getting Typed on Reddit
28:36 My Kibbe Confusion / Beef lol
34:27 Actual final thoughts + conclusion
Please keep in mind this is just a distillation of my thoughts on Kibbe and for the sake of time I've left out a lot / simplified some of the concepts, and speak more to my experience as someone getting into it - I am by no means a Kibbe expert at all haha :,)
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as a teenager, my doctor told me my body type was "an apple on toothpicks." Gotta say, I'd much prefer if they'd had said something like soft classic.
Wow. That “doctor” needs to be fired! What happened to keeping things to yourself?
What an arsehole!!
I have a similar beef. Like, you can knock yourself out trying to figure out your type, and you might be able to narrow it down to one or two, and use that to inform your style, which is cool, but at the end of the day, it is designed to be a bit elusive and confusing, and so you can never be a hundred percent sure. And that's because the whole system belongs to this Kibbe dude who has the ultimate say, and can never be wrong, even if he has some serious inconsistencies in his logic (which he does). That part doesn't feel very empowering. It would be nice to have a system that was entirely in our hands and had language and rules that made sense. To me the Kibbe thing feels a bit like a free limited access to Spotify or something like that. The thing you really want to get out of it might be just out of reach.
I feel this haha, I still get comments on this video and my other videos all the time from Kibbe enthusiasts telling me they know my type / they have the golden rule to distinguish what type I am and they all have conflicting advice so... how does that work 👀😭
As someone with dysmorphia with both my facial features and body, this damn quiz is near impossible 😂😂
kibbe quiz challenge w dysmorphia mod *IMPOSSIBLE* 😭😭😭
I am definitely getting soft classic vibes. You're super yin and moderate, but I'm not getting the double curve that's required for romantics. I think it's also important to note that since you didn't feel like you have any one body "feature" standing out, that can definitely point to being a classic. Basically what I've always heard is that it's easiest to determine if you're a classic by simply ruling out everything else since you'll be super balanced and not have any obvious signs pointing in other directions. I totally see why people would think you're a soft dramatic since I agree that you look good in outfits that show off vertical, but you don't have any noticeable yang IMO, and soft classics can look good in vertical outfits too.
That's what I commented. Plus she is the same height as Marilyn Monroe and Marilyn is far more soft and curvy. I'm the same height and look way taller than her and elongated because I'm dramatic.
I agree.
My first impression was also soft Classic
I started learning about Kibbe a year ago, and I got professionally typed. This journey has helped me learn to love my body and dress in elements that reflect who I am. I tried typing myself but I couldn't get it right with my body dysmorphia. I needed a neutral party to help me find my type.
Aww I'm really glad it empowered your personal style journey!! 💖 I definitely agree it's not a simple task to type one's self 😅
@Lucy Livin I understand your frustration in this video - it's not easy on beginners and that's why I went to someone to type me. I was typed Soft Dramatic because I look tall even though I am 5'5" and I have curves from my bone structure, not from flesh. From what I can see, you look far more yin than that, so you're on the right track with soft classic or romantic. What I like about kibbe is that there is no one sought after body type and each one comes with suggestions to help honor your shape. You are not learning how to hide the "bad" things but how to honor every part of you. I follow Body&Style here on YT and she discusses Kibbe for all races, style roots, and how faces fit into the kibbe system.
Soft classic with ingenue and classic essence
I did an unhinged deep dive into Kibbe a couple of years ago and felt very much the same. My main takeaway was your point about how if the people who subscribe to this system and are knowledgeable about it can't even agree (I saw some very feral arguments between people about what 'type' a person was), then what is even the point, kinda? It's too ambiguous to have any certainty for a lot of people, and yet its supporters can have such a rigid view of how it works. I do understand that its more about viewing my body like a piece of architecture, and that's an inherently difficult thing given I am not a sentient house, but when considering the genesis of the entire system it's not a surprise it doesn't extrapolate out to the general, more diverse, public very well.
I think the main confusion comes from the way David Kibbe communicates and views things. Because that's so different to what we're used to, we may just not understand what he truly means or what he can see. Perception is something very individual. So to some you might look average and classic while others might see drama or softness within you that noone else can see. It all depends on what we're used to. None of us is just "numbers and connected dots" we're all very individual. That might mean, we might LEAN most towards a certain type but not perfectly FIT IN the overall description of the type. For color seasons it's the same, but not as complicated.
And also: I don't think you fully need to understand your personal features in order to recognize what certain colors and clothing lines and materials change about your overall look. Take photos of yourself in certain styles, outfits, whatever and see what changes are happening. Figure out which outcome you love most and which resonates most with your own vibe and personality. That might be a way more fun and easy way to figure out what your wardrobe might look like in order to fully please you. Because at the end of the day it's not about dressing perfectly for whatever you might be typed as, but for your own liking. A pretty good example is "looking edgy". In order to look edgy, you HAVE to wear lines and colors that are not perfectly yours and make that work. In order to look androgynous you might also wear lines that are not fully yours etc. Whenever we create something that is just a tad bit different from our own lines and coloring, we might not look "perfect" but maybe even more interesting. And that's where the sentence "learn the rules to be able to break them in order to create a certain impact" might be very correct, and that's very fun imho.
By the way I myself feel like looking a bit boring when I wear just my Soft Natural lines, I prefer a more edgy look, so I go for it. I love adding a bit of drama to my outfits too. But that doesn't mean I look BAD in order to wear what I like. I think wearing only your own lines CAN look very flattering but can also lack a bit of spice. E.g. cooking a certain dish with perfectly harmonious incredients, that kinda doesn't fit your liking because you prefer a stronger taste of garlic. Just add more garlic then, it's not a cooking show. Same for clothes. Your type suggests you wear mainly neutrals but you're really just longing for more color, add more color. No one's gonna hunt you for that. Your color analysis told you black is not your color, but you love black, wear black.
@@JuliaKirsty I absolutely agree with the point about how Kibbe himself views and communicates things from a design aesthetic. I interpret it very much as a process that depersonalises the body but as you point out, that is a difficult thing to do when bodies are inhabited by actual people with perspectives and preferences and particular lifestyles and varying access to different types of clothing, not to mention the different cultural contexts at play. I can only assume that when this was developed it was never intended to be so dogmatic as some people portray it, but you could say that about so many things I suppose.
I also agree that things like this should just be a lens through which to view your relationship with clothing and fashion, and can add (not dictate!) to your toolbox for creating outfits that build that sense of self and satisfaction. I think part of why I struggled with this typing system is because I got a hella soft, short curvy body but a very angular, almost masculine face, which has always been a source of disconnect for me. I battled for a long time about the 'me' I wanted to project onto the world/what I thought the world wanted from me, versus the 'me' I actually am in my day-to-day potato existence (plus a lot of internalised misogyny about how feminine I was 'supposed' to be, probably). It led to me buying all sorts of statement and/or hyperfeminine pieces that I thought were beautiful, but would ultimately never wear because I suffer from that kinda-insufferable millennial-esque "please do not perceive me in my khaki sweater and unbranded jeans" minimalist instinct. The realisation that my priorities weren't really aligned with my values dawned; I needed a wardrobe that satisfied my practical nature, and prioritising how I was perceived by others was massively overcomplicating things. That would also explain part of why the Kibbe stuff bounced off me; it can be a lot of work to figure out what you might look good in when, as you rightly point out, you can have a lot of fun just doing the trial and error thing. Ultimately I've landed on a quasi-capsule wardrobe in a limited colour palate and specific cuts; for me this is a good balance between what I think flatters me and also compliments my lifestyle.
The line between dressing for yourself and dressing for others is so incredibly blurry. I don't think I could ever untangle them. If the goal of creating harmony between the clothing and the body is to create an aesthetically pleasing silhouette, then is there not an inherent desire for positive external perception? I really don't know. Our environment and experiences shape what we find attractive so even in dressing for yourself, it feels like there still must be some kind of societal or cultural influence. But it's not inherently bad to give a shit what people think of you, anyway.
This was so interesting. My first guess was romantic, but seeing the full length photo I can see the soft classic. In my opinion your face leans more romantic, while your overall lines are more soft classic. :)
The way you spiraled is the way I have spiraled about kibbe, color analysis, style essence, mbti!!!!!!!! and honestly anything that cab categorize me. I have come to the conclusion that I, nor anyone is a commodity that needs to be labeled. And perhaps my desire to do so comes from social media?
The desire to be easily labeled and explained to someone online, or to an algorithm, instead of just genuinely connecting or using my own introspection.
Am I still going to try to type myself and others? Yes, but being mindful about why I am doing it and if it contributes positively or negatively to my life is crucial. So far it’s just making me obsess. Not in the «i look bad» way, but in a time consuming way, which in turn can be bad as a regular human being who does not need to market themself or look good 24/7.
I like that you put nuance into your video. At the end of the day, clothing is essential, fashion is an optional way to intentionally express your identity, a keen eye for aesthetics, an ideal, a time, a feeling, your body, anything really. None of which should be unecessarily stifled by the body anyone is born with or have aquired through the ages.
This is so well written
Hi! I'm into Kibbe style system from a long time (3 years) and I can totally relate to your confusion! At the beginning of my journey I really couldn't figure out what my type was and I got very frustrated, because it seemed I wasn't able to see myself as a whole and I kept concentrating on the single parts! I think you're a soft classic, beacuse your body is very moderate with a little bit of extra softness and in my opinion you have a very evident ingenue essence (Essences system concentrate mainly on the facial features and the overall vibe), wich is a very yin essence (also Marilyn had ingenue essecnce), so maybe this is part of the reason you got very confused!
Hi! A year later commenting on your video. I found this Kibbe world about four months ago. I'm an older woman in her 50s. My relationship with my body hasn't been the best due to societal constructs about beauty standards and what type of body is the most desirable. I'm quirky, even in my 50s. And I always found that the general clothing available in stores didn't suite me very well.
Through Kibbe I found out that I'm a Soft Gamine. After that revelation many things fell into place. I'm a very petite person, just 5'2". And I have that definite mix of soft and angular that is so characteristic of Soft Gamines. The matching point was haircut. I went from almost waist length hair to a Pixie. And IT is my new hairstyle and I love it. I look like the lost sister of Michelle Williams.
It may take a few tries to figure out, but what worked for me was the overall style vibe. I thought I was a Classic too. But classic style clothing is too classic for me, I look suppressed and kind of blah. I shine in Gamine styles.
I found the Kibbe system about 4 years ago, and I am STILL torn between FN and SD. Despite this, Kibbe's system has helped me drastically with figuring out what actually suits me!!!!
Ultimately what has helped me with that lack of clarity between types was the addition of John Kitchener's essence types. My essence was very obviously Natural + Ethereal + Romantic, and that has actually helped me to settle into Kibbe's FN, even in my typing uncertainty. I always get typed 50/50 on reddit.
Immediately when you showed your full body pic that you used to find your type, I felt that you are SC with a Romantic essence!
Whoever said that Kibbe is not a shortcut, it is the long way around... They are SPOT ON.
I get you it's been several years too and I'm still going back and forth with SG, TR and R 😅
Something that I've learned in my journey through different typing systems, is that it is so useless to try and put yourself into specific type of anything, but the way these systems and guides can be helpful is giving you words and characteristics that help you describe and understand yourself. To me Kibbe was one of the most intruigung and most difficult so far
As someone who’s had a pretty clear and positive experience with Kibbe, it’s really interesting to see a different perspective! I found it easy to find my type and never understood the confusion so many people were having. But, having said that, I’m tall (and look tall) and striking but still curvy, so soft dramatic was pretty clear. I’m also probably the perfect target audience, being someone with a keen interest in fashion and a few ideas about what wasn’t looking good on me, but not a lot of knowledge about why or what to do differently. So, seeing someone who is pretty confident in their personal style and less confident in their Kibbe type assessment was a huge contrast to me, and it was really interesting to listen to your discussion!
Thank you Lucy for sharing your experience of kibble! I have struggled finding my body type style and what looks flattering on me and seeing that there’s so much variety in-between really shows me that everyone is unique. What matters is what makes us comfortable and confident because not everyone can be placed so easily in a category and that’s okay ❤ as always, love your videos!
I know this is an old video, but I fall down a Kibbe rabbit hole every few years, often in spring when my body will be seen again. I am old, so I know how I should dress, what suits me, but it's good to discover why, and I always learn something when I dive. BUT, what I really want to know is what is that fabulous lip shade you are wearing in this video?! I have been looking for that shade longer than I have been diving down Kibbe rabbit holes! Please share!
Kibbe can be such a hit or miss. I’ve been into it for several years now. I had to stop for a while, because I got too focused on the specifics of my body. I also think some of the descriptions are problematic. Kibbe himself seems to have a liking for the romantics (r, tr), which I think rubs off on other people. Naturals and especially flamboyant naturals have such odd descriptions, leading people to buy into not so flattering images. You can’t expect people to have no type resistance when some are described as wide and blunt, and others get dreamy and elegant. I’ve seen some people use female (ying) vs male (yang) which is just so bad and not fitting at all. A lot of the kibbe “experts” on social media sadly do it as well. Some of the typing isn’t very clear either. Like height requirements, but then some are oficcially typed despite being too tall for the type. (Rihanna specifically. Kibbe thought she was shorter, but instead of backing out, he changed it to what your height looks like) Theatrical romantics gets put on a pedestal, like it’s some rare unicorn type and “ideal” thanks to Kibbes descriptions and him typing himself and his wife as it.
What helped me was realizing that it is not a body typing system. None of the types are the ideal. Every type is full of just stunning women. I think a lot of the kibbe community is really nice and helpful and understand how problematic kibbe can be. As long as it’s just used as a general guideline for fun, I think it can be helpful. But you have to be in the right mindset just like you said❤ Rant over lol, love your videos 💞💞💞 (sorry for any grammar mistakes, English is not my first language)
I don't think Kibbe enforced the type resistance thing, it's more of personal insecurities playing into this. Naturals are supposed to be effortlessly beautiful girls next door, fresh, sensual etc. There are positive descriptions regarding the vibes for all the types. It's just that many women have associated being wide with something bad and they don't want to be types that are regarded as 'wide'. But in the system width is a different thing than the conventional definition that's why some Naturals are more narrow (like Scarjo or Anne Hathaway)
@@peggysyri3193or maybe Kibbe needs to stop referring to broad shoulders as “masculine and boyish”. Like the original comment said, his description on women’s bodies is kinda gross.
@@Pink_pr1ncess I've seen the boy ish part about gamines and I agree on that but I don't think he's said masculine about any ID. He says some are prone to being muscular instead aka building muscle more easily (usually for the IDs that don't have curve).
@Pink_pr1ncess lol to "masculine" that's your own opinion on width. I've never seen him say that word in the book or on his Facebook group. Maybe get comfortable with females having the beautiful right to take up room??
@@tomjones2157 Yeah, descriptions of Naturals to me came off as saying you look like you have a strong body, which is not a bad thing at all!
The "wide and blunt" types are also described as elegant, strong, sensual, awe inspiring, effortless... the bias comes from the person reading. You can make all types sound bad from the kibbe descriptions if you happen to dislike being it: the masculine, the rough one, the boring, the child, and the fat one.
Don't worry, when I first heard about Kibbe, I got just as confused as you. The struggle was real. My test gave me Theatrical Romantic and I love the styles and silhouettes you can create with/for this type but it doesn't look right on me. I also asked my mom and boyfriend for help, but they didn't know a single answer to the questions. Then I got the opportunity to get typed by Merriam Style here on UA-cam and she stated I am Soft Natural. That makes so much sense. The thing is: I definitely can see certain traits quite clearly and for certain people it's super easy to guess the right type. But for myself it was so hard to see anything. I also was a lot more fleshy when I was younger and even though I lost the baby chub I didn't see it. I could see that I was too "sharp" and had too much structure for a full on romantic but didn't see the blunt slight broadness within my bone structure and the muscle on top. You can definitely see muscle in my face when I talk, chew, smile etc. but I wasn't aware of this.
Maybe this helps you a bit: When I saw you first (I really just found your channel a few days ago and the first video I watched was the color typing video) I instantly thought you had something classic about you but also something really soft, sweet and lovely. I also feel like you got a major ingenue essence (which is what might make people think you are a Gamine) but I could be wrong here. If I am right, Soft Classic with Ingenue essence would make total sense. I just think you are timelessly beautiful. In terms of style that could mean Soft Classic plus a bit of Ingenue would be great for you. Try to find pictures of that online and see if it suits your liking. If you still struggle I highly suggest Ellie-Jean Royden here on UA-cam, she has a system called style roots which incorporates your personality and personal liking. On her website it's about combining Kibbe, Essences, your personal coloring AND your personal liking. It's kind of hard to figure those things out though, but maybe for you it might just click and make more sense. Also Ellie-Jean is a Soft Classic herself (but a light summer) and maybe that might help you even more to understand the system overall.
Also: I stumbled across a blog that meantioned your personal coloring also goes into your Kibbe type. I just couldn't find that anymore. For the Soft Natural I read "soft autumn and soft summer are very common for the Soft Natural" and I personally am a Soft Summer (which again made a lot of sense to me, when I found out).
And I totally agree, getting your colors done is way more easy and satisfying than figuring out your Kibbe type and understanding what that means. Creating a wardrobe that REALLY incorporates your colors, your Kibbe type, your Essence AND style roots is a full on mission rather than a breeze. And if someone isn't into that, it's just no fun at all. But I admit, I love that you explained how your thoughts went all crazy during that process, coz I thought, I was the only one with a mindset like this. It's just clothes, right? Maybe but it's also a science for itself and it's fun to unravel all the layers of it. But also a struggle. Most of the time a struggle.
For reference: I am Soft Natural, Soft Summer, Merriam said I have Ingenue essence and maybe even a tad bit Ethereal (but so little that I don't have to incorporate that into my style) and my style roots are Stone, Moon and Mountain. [I think finding your style roots can be quite fun, even if you already fully know what you like, it's just not as scientific and complicated and is just a cool tool to add to your repertoire.]
I initially typed as Soft Classic or Romantic too, but after hanging around these circles for a bit I ended up landing on Soft Natural (bits of info and details gave me clues, but then I gained weight and my silhouette became even more strongly SN, so that sealed the deal).
I got into all that style theory stuff, and Kibbe ID was definitely the most frustrating part! For those who want some simple good fun, definitely style roots. I also tried to get into the style key quarants, but I'm The Outsider, which means I just do whatever I want and that's ok. That was equal parts validating and anti-climatic 😂
I am Soft Natural, Dark Autumn, probably some blend of natural-ingenue-classic essence, with Flower, Earth, and Moon style roots, and a Ruby in style key.
Personally i like to think of kibbe for just the silhouette and kitchener just for the details. The kibbe system isn't specific enough to type ur face and doesn't take take into account how your face and body may not have the same vibe. (Same for kitchener essence system) its just easier for me to separate my face and my body and then combine them at the end.
I appreciate you taking us on this journey with you; I’ve been trying to type myself as well! It can definitely be confusing. It sounds like you ended up with a pretty good guess of what you are though! Maybe next you could try figuring out your style essence/s? (The Kitchener system; dramatic, classic, ethereal, etc). That’s another one I’ve been trying to figure out for myself! Anyway, you’re beautiful! ❤
I did the quiz and I am a Theatrical Romantic - pretty strongly so, because I got almost entirely Ds! I think this really resonates with me bc I am not quite as voluptuous as a standard Romantic! So perhaps you should look more into TR! As for you... it's tough!! You definitely have the beautiful Romantic curves, but you also have a lot of even/ balanced features which lends to the Classic type, plus you're much taller than a typical Romantic!
I feel your pain! It took me a year of research and playing with clothing lines to discover I am a dramatic classic. I found the quiz to be most confusing and learned to understand the kibbe method through watching lots of videos about it. My few extra lbs were throwing me off for a while. I could be very wrong, but I have a hunch you may be a soft gamine...or a romantic with gamine essence. Kitchner's essences are a whole other can of worms! Loving your videos 💕
I think soft classic :) It was interesting to see that you picked the yin but not quite yin because there is some yang influence - except for TR (D answers) there is a specific kind of yang influence (dramatic) that tends to make their bone structure and overall appear trimmer and with petite sharp accentuations on a rounded bone structure. Your yang influence is well, seems more "blended" - a moderate type like classic. On Romantic and Soft Classic - R is curve dominant, while SC is balanced frame with extra yin influence (you come across as balanced to me). I see curve dominance as something that immediately calls attention to someone's lush or sensual quality, their overall appearance both face and body, and doesn't have to be literally "hourglass" etc. it's an absence of frame dominance that creates that quality, so I think Rs can be a bit more delicate than SCs. Classic, having more moderate and evened out features might be more likely to get the "you look like XYZ" and in fact it is part of "classic style essence" if you look for it. It is very rare or me personally to ever be told that (I am R). Anecdotes, but yeah there is info out there that basically lines up with what you mentioned about people's responses to you (can also be a clue as to the essences your embody).
I’ve been aware about the Kibbe system for years now, but it really is a vibe and they talk about essences yada yada…most of the time you know what looks good on you and most of the time it turns out you are already leaning into the type you are…I’m a flamboyant natural, but it took me a little while to figure out where in the natural category I fell into…once I looked at my clothes and a few pictures of people who were typed similarly to me and what they wore it made it easier once I saw how the clothes laid on my frame…go with your gut instinct and what you vibe with because usually that’s right
kibbe is a nightmare to me. I gave up. the bones and flesh thing, but then flesh is not supposed to be related to your wheight, I was like, no thanks, I'll try on clothes and decide if I feel good.
When I saw you I immediately thought soft classic and when you said how tall you are it confirmed to me you may likely be in the classic family. I have been typed as Dramatic Classic and as a UK16/18 I have found dressing in my “lines” have made such a difference. I was so surprised that I was a DM but can now see why. One thing I would recommend is to read the whole description for each of the types and experiment in dressing for each type, drilling down into the detail doesn’t always help. I do think that the only other possibility for you is a soft natural.
I think the height rule is pretty important so i don't think you can be a romantic if youre over 5'5. Its so confusing tho took me a few years to be confident in my type. Im a Soft Classic too!
I'll never understand double curve!
I’ve gotten into the kibbe deep dive myself and oh boy did I spiral into a rabbit hole. I’m fairly sure that I’m SC but that frustrated me more because I didn’t resonate at all with the style and the « essence » of the type. I might use SC lines to look polished and nice for an interview for example but I prefer to experiment with my style and if that means I’m not in my best lines, so be it xd I also think experimenting with your style is the ultimate way of finding what works for you, so it doesn’t surprise me that kibbe didn’t change much for you !
I loved this video i laughed so many times, I took the quiz before you finished because your full body image made me think we'd be the same type, but after filling out the quiz, I got a lot of b's and e's which is flamboyant gamine. which i quickly searched for style edits on pinterest and it almost immediately made me doubt the type when i saw who was categorized as flamboyant gamine. people like audrey hepburn, super petite, boy-ish body types. but then the styles were like cropped jackets, straight jeans, ballet flats, which i'm naturally drawn to! i definitely agree with the learning your type and moving on logic. it gave me so many mixed emotions
I didn't know anything about this but I just took the quiz & got theatrical romantic. Seems pretty spot on for the clothing- I feel extremely limited in my clothing because I need my waist defined or I look 2-3x bigger than what I really am & I feel like most clothes are made to be loose around the stomach to hide that area. Feels like it always comes down to tucking in shirts but I don't like that because it feels too business professional for me. So yeah I like nothing in my closet :')
i love putting narrow belts around the waistline, but also, maybe you or someone you know has a sewing machine and could take the waist in?
Oh my, he's got A BOOK coming out?? Can't wait.
In my opinion your personal preference and "vibe" should also count. I actually got my style type analysed at House of Colour and what I liked is that they base their conclusions partly on what your body looks like, but also partly on your personality and how you want to present yourself (and there are less strict hang-up about height). My result was natural gamine and I love it.
Before that I had also gone on Kibbe reddit (while accidently miscalculating my height in centimeters to a more feet and inches than I am haha) and the people there said FN, DC or D. My height is exactly at the gamine height cut-off. I might be one of those 3 types in Kibbe, but I like the natural gamine sooo much more. It suits me way better and it makes me feel confident/feel like me :D
That last comment about it seeming "horoscopic" was well said! That is the vibe I have gotten from trying to do a Kibbe quiz and checking a few comment threads, and most definitely from your video journey🌠 I'm gonna regard Kibbe body types, as I regard horoscopes; if I come across it I might read what it suggests, but it will be forgotten in 5 minutes and won't have any lasting effect on me.
We humans have that brain thing that makes us TAKE NOTE of the things that reinforce our beliefs, so I'm sure plenty of people have found The One Kibbe Type for themselves despite being a mix of the described types. The Kibbe body type system seems to me be based on a flawed premise (body type -> clothes style), but those who believe in it ignore the flaws and find the answers they seek🤷♀️
The traditional body type of apples/pears or round/triangle is much easier to comprehend. Some of the advice drawn from that is flawed (always give an apple a waist, minimize the bottom of the pear...), as hourglass is considered the "ideal type"... but at least you don't need to be an astrophycisist to understand what mr Kibbe possibly means by XYZ... except in that case where he typed someone wrongly and invented something to explain it away....
I'm a kibbe romantic, and I've helped women find their kibbe type for the last 8ish years. I fully stan everything you said here! It can be the key to open up a gateway to a new world, but it can also be a nightmare of all sorts. I only really fit into the R category, so I'm pretty jealous and happy for you that you can slide and mingle between two types! As far as essence goes, you def have a romantic essence, which probably helps you move between SC & R, but probably also confused the process as well. I think Kibbe can truly change lives, but it can really put some people through the ringer in they're between types. And I do think you're between types!
It took me years to realize my real Kibbe type. It's not good to use the quiz because it's more about how to accommodate clothes, but the quiz puts equal importance on things like the shape of your nose.
I took a shortcut by being 5'9" and only having 3 options 😂Being an obviously curvy frame, I was able to land on Soft Dramatic basically within minutes. A lot of people take months to figure theirs out, us tall gals get to skip all the hemming and hawing.
that being said, you can pry my skinny jeans out of my cold, dead, hands. I will not wear flares or bootcut, which are the recommendation for SDs. I don't think they work on me and they just aren't "me", and that's the most important thing, to feel like yourself!
I have thoughts but one of the random thoughts was when you popped up with rachel maksy and mia maples I was like :O pikachu face bc you three are pretty much the ones I watch in my morning routines 😂
I'll say the first time I took the quiz I got Romantic... After 6+ months of exploring Kibbe I've actually found that I'm actuall Flamboyant Natural... a little bit of a difference.
This is interesting!! I’m considering checking it out. I feel like we have very similar answers but I feel like my height will also throw me off. I’m just under 5’7 but was finding myself saying c, d, e for myself while you were going through the questions. We shall see!!! Great video and I love how deep you looked into it!
Same!!! My answers are mostly D with Cs and Es. But even though I look shorter than I am I’m definitely tall by kibbe’s system. But also the height thing confuses me because I’m average height for where I’m from, but tall for where I live. So to me it feels very strange to draw an arbitrary line like kibbe has, it really confuses me. Did you end up figuring it out?
@@EmL-kg5gn I think the agreed "moderate" (not average) height in kibbe is 5'4"-5'7" (163-170), and it's more about how your proportions make you appear
I am just below the average in my country, but very short in global scale (5'2"/158). But in pictures I seem quite taller, people thought I was like 5'5". In kibbe terms, my apparent height is moderate. To attempt to dress like a romantic or gamine wouldn't work, because despite my true height, I am not petite (appear small).
I'm working on a fashion education self taught online class (for fun). It's super nice because they do your colours and educate you a bit on how to look nice within your age range. They also have a stylist that you can ask for help while shopping and most of her/their recommendations were A+. (One recommendation was to not wear white when my fave dressy sweater for the summer is white.) The app setup was a little awkward so I wouldn't recommend it but the information I've gained is fascinating.
31:20 - Ooo I watch both those lovely UA-cam ladies.
My mom has repeatedly said I am shaped and general vubes are like Drew Barrymore. Am very tempted to try checking this.
If I hyper fixate too much on it I'll quit doing the quiz.
I have tried to figure out what Kibbe type i am several times but I honestly can't 😂 can't wait to see which one you are bby
ahhh it seems as if it's a common experience 😅 hope u enjoy my kibbe odyssey 🤡💗🫡
I have a slightly marfanoid body type due a condition I have, so these are always interesting to see. I believe I'd be flamboyant natural, but it's hard to say. My facial features are more yin, while my body is very yang, again possibly due to that condition. It's neat to talk about. I'm mostly A and B, but my legs are much longer in relation to my torso. I've always had super prominent bones which my physiotherapist commented on, but my face is also different as my eyes and lips are slightly larger, so it's definitely one of those things where it's a very complex system.
I personally see you as a Soft Classic! I think you leaned toward softer answers than I would've given. I also don't see the requisite double curve for the Romantic types!
Soft classics can have a double curve but it's not their dominant feature. Balance first. Kibbe updated and said soft classics can have it too. They are the only new type though
You definitely resemble Drew. Absolutely. You even have some facial expressions she has!
Honestly many people are not just one type, but a mixure of at least two others
Gosh I feel you. I’ve tried to do this before and was so puzzled. I struggled to see the difference in some examples they used. 🤷🏻♀️
When I first stumbled upon Kibbe it was a revelation to me. It’s so freeing to not be trying to force your body into a tall hourglass but rather celebrating your uniqueness. The uniqueness element ironically is probably something that later turned me off a little bit from Kibbe because I don’t know that I agree that I fit squarely in one type, maybe I do who knows! That is when I discovered Kitchener. Both Kibbe and Kitchener have similar roots in Harriet McJimsey. At first I thought Kitchener’s system was a bit strange because you can be a blend of types (and a blend in color seasons). I think his system makes a lot more sense for me personally in terms of I am not going to look exactly like someone else. My coloring and my body type may have identifiable elements in common with certain types but it is not cookie cutter like anyone else. Kibbe is a good overall guide for me on possible styling whereas Kitchener can really nail down the specifics. In the end, if you are soft and moderate in the big picture, then all your style elements should also be soft and moderate. For example, soft and moderate prints, soft and moderate jewelry, soft and moderate tops, etc. Your unique combination will determine if a specific items or color really works for you or not. Personally, I have learned a lot more about why something is flattering or not and noticing details in cut, shape, etc. Both systems have helped me in different ways. Kitchener is more approachable/available for consultation and questions. The almost secretive/exclusiveness of Kibbe is annoying to me. Does any of that make sense? All of it really is a journey of self discovery! I am choosing to have fun on the journey and not take it too seriously.
Whatever type you are, you're beautiful, with excellent skin.
I had mixed feelings about Kibbe, and found Kitchener essences much more helpful - probably because Ethereal comes through very strongly in my face and vibe, and that doesn't exist in Kibbe.
I am 5 foot tall and when I work they don’t assume I am that short when I sit down and talk to people. I am pretty sure I am a soft classic until someone walks up to me and then look down.
Lucy I think you’re absolutely gorgeous no matter what type of Kibbe you are 💗 In saying that, you are deffo Soft Classic, not Romantic…to put it in more simple terms, Romantic is the old school version of hourglass shape, the ta-tas are as big and curvy as the butt and hippy boys, and the shoulders are in even proportion and width of the hips, with a small waist. The Soft Classic on the other hand, is the old school version of the pear shape…where the hippy boys and butt, are the biggest and most dominant (asset 😉) feature of the body, with small waist and not in your face size ta-tas (more average to small size). Lucy your hippy boys and butt are definitely your most dominant and noticeable part of your body, whatever you wear, you are always mindful of and catering to this area. Lol hope this makes sense?…and regardless of all the Kibbe stuff, I absolutely love your body shape, it’s absolute perfection! 😘💕
✨nuance on the internet! ✨we love to see it 😁
Kibbe is based on bone structure, length and shape of your frame and your features which applies to anyone from any race. It is a body type system in that it requires you know your type before applying your lines. Even if he used examples from one race only, it's totally irrelevant because it's a system that any individual can use based on how they objectively compare to everyone else in the world. Some races will commonly fall into one type because that race have features that relate to those kibbe types. That's not predjudice or not being inclusive, that's down to biology. If for example Chinese or Turkish are short races compared to the rest of the world, it's unlikely you'll find many dramatics within those groups. If Ethiopians or Norwegians are tall, there are likely going to be more dramatics and naturals within those groups, and so on and so forth. I get that people may wish he'd included a variety of races in his examples in order to make assessment easier, and hopefully he will do that in future, but he's not beholden to anyone to do that. The world was a different place when he wrote that book. I'm English and I only saw one black kid and one Asian kid throughout my entire childhood into my teens, which was quite usual in England, because England is a predominantly white country despite increasing multiculturalism. I only started seeing other races when I moved to London because there was no internet, no youtube, no pinterest, no Instagram or twitter, and everyone on tv reflected the people that lived here, who were white. If I'd written a fashion book it would have been based on average white English women because that's all I saw and most people do relate to their own race. In the west we have many more economic migrants now, easier travel options and more multi culturalism worldwide, but it's not the same everywhere. America seems to be much more of a melting pot of races and cultures than many other countries. When I see Asian versions of colour theory they still only use Asian models, even for light spring and summer which is ridiculous because they don't have light enough features to belong to those categories. But they are obviously wanting to relate to their own people, which is fine, it just means they're not using the system correctly. It's the same with Rihanna being typed as a summer with dark skin, eyes and hair just because her eyes are relatively lighter than that of other black women and she wears cool time colours. But she's still a winter and looks her best in deeper cool tones because she's not objectively fair or medium contrast, she's deep! I'm not even convinced you're a summer because on screen you look high contrast with very dark eyes and hair, more deep autumn or deep winter, but I accept videos can be tricky to assess, especially without seeing fabric swatches against a person's face. I'm a Soft Autumn and I was typed as a winter because I have very fair skin and brunette hair with rosy cheeks. But I'm still objectively medium contrast compared to my deep winter sister. I don't think Kibbe has helped himself with his vague lingo outlined in his system, but I'm a bit over this notion of having to include people from every corner of the earth for fear of being labelled. I do agree it would make things easier for everyone if he showed examples of different body types from different races back to back. Even then there will always be exceptions to the rule, but the kibbe system works for everyone.
Exactly. I also added a reply similar to this under another comment. But Kibbe is inclusive. It's just not an easy task to look at your body objectively. Which is okay. But it doesn't mean it doesn't work. How can lines and circles or where a seamstress may have to let out clothing on your body to fit your shape has anything to do with race? No where. I'm glad I'm not the only one who understands that. It's just a concept.
it’s the Chin for Drew Berrymore!! 32:11 and the face shape !!
Let's go, perfectly acceptable way to spend a Wednesday night.
There's definitely some guess work happening here like 'yeah I guess I look how tall I am I dunno no one's ever commented on it' and definitely a lot of 'corporate wants you to find the difference between pictures A and B' and me saying 'They're identical! These are the same eyes Susan!'
It looks like I score soft classic or dramatic classic since I'm getting majority moderate C stuff and then a roughly even balance of 1 or 2 A/B and D/E in seemingly random areas. On pure score it's like one point into soft classic, but on vibes it's into dramatic classic because of a lack of overall softness as a whole I guess? But scrolling through the styling section it looks like I'm wearing stuff from both things already so like? shrug? I have no idea and my interest in nailing it down is pretty minimal considering the amount of effort it looks like it'd take.
No matter what type I truly am, they're going to have to tear my oversized and unseasonal sweater vests and A-lines from my cold dead hands 🧐
I have been thinking I'm a TR, but now I'm thinking maybe soft gamine because the clothes suit me. I don't have the facial features at all though. I think you do and gamines are mixed so have you explored That?
Thanks for sharing your thorough dive into it.
I've been seeing videos about Kibbe types pop up in my shorts recently and I didn't know much about it so thank you for the info!
After trying to look into my type, I very much fit into every romantic type description, being short and either round or curvy everywhere. I see how it could get really confusing though. The tips are kind of useful but things I already knew from figuring out how to dress over the years. I will say though that the shoe tips are helpful since the heels I like tend to make me look very disproportional.
It took me literal years to figure out my Kibbe type, and even still I'm not married to it. The language is convoluted and frankly odd, at times. I hear there's a common pitfall that women will usually test as romantic the first time, just b/c of how we're socialized to think about our bodies. Lastly, "soft yang" will never not sound dirty to me.
Not me commenting at the beginning of the vid only to find out by the end, that you were SO DEEP in the subreddit you found the same romantic pitfall lol
I found Kibbe in 2019 and I recommend no one fall down the rabbit hole. Every time I fall back into I come up with a different type for myself. All the internet experts just add to the absolute confusion of the system. There are definitely better systems out there that will give clearer results. I will say that Reddit has the actual book descriptions for each type and that helps more than anything I've ever seen elsewhere.
Some of my thoughts:
-I really appreciate the self scrutiny disclaimer at the beginning. It can be helpful to learn about how our bodies interact with fashion, but can be tricky to navigate when it comes to comparison.
-with any pseudoscientific theory, it's more about the fun/curiosity than it is about it being fact. Just like astrology, people don't necessarily fit into categories but can see themselves in multiple areas and gives jumping off points and questions to ask.
-any theory that relies on a single authority determining the answer isn't really a theory, but an opinion imo. Plus it's a bit hmmm iffy about some old white dude putting women's bodies into categories LOL. It's also sus that it's based around getting an answer *then* finding evidence to support it (rather than the other way round, though you could argue it's a bit of both). Just like AI that's only trained on a certain dataset, the fact that his pool is mostly white tall female celebrities means so many people won't fit into the boxes.
-I really like Ellie Jean body and style's style roots theory as a way of thinking about fabrics/colours/lines - it's more about your own style than your body too.
Anyway, as a stem bb, I appreciate the critical thinking and analytical treatment of the subject :)
I'm commenting before I finish watching the video, but my guess for you is soft classic. You seem to have very proportionate features, but your edges are slightly rounded- like your shoulders, hips, and jawline are gently curved rather then pointed or blunt. Nothing about your features seems harsh or overly lush, you're just sort of balanced and symmetrical within your own features. I also think you seem to gravitate towards more simple and classic styles with an ingenue touch, so that fits well with soft classic. Just my opinion though :) Now to finish watching and see what you typed yourself!
I haven't finished the video yet, but I've watched a lot of kibbe-focused videos in the past. After some of your comments, I'm wondering what is the point of a system that only one person can officially be the "expert" in...? And one that's so confusing for so many people? I have a lot of trouble dressing for my bod type, but I feel like taking this on would only complicate that!
Edit: most of the example images are of bikini models… not helpful
This is my first introduction to kibbe and it seems really interesting although I’m tall so that sounds like it limits my types but I use a wheelchair which means I can’t exactly utilise being tall as a feature 😆🙈
It really doesn’t help that all the reference pictures are people at different angles, in different poses and fully clothed. You can’t really compare when there’s no consistency in reference images.
Adding heels reveals not tricks kibbe. Mae West is a very short Soft Dramatic who wore massive heels under 5" and she looks MORE like a SD with height extending heels as she has a long line and the heels harmonise with that. I'm Soft Gamine and look even smaller when I wear heels like a doll teetering on giant moon shoes.
It was really interesting to see you go through this process and be frustrated by it in some of the same ways I was! I feel much less alone.
My main issue with Kibbe is that I don't think the system works well for larger bodies... I've been trying to type myself for so long, but I've been so many different sizes that it feels impossible. The face vs. body piece just really throws me off as well. I've basically come to the conclusion that I'm some sort of SG, TR or R, but my body leans more R/TR while my face is more G. So does that make me an SG? It's so tough to tell my true shape with the extra weight and every petite heavier person can't just be an R full stop. I get "fleshier" (ick) in my middle when I gain weight, but I do still have curve, so what does that mean? It's just all so confusing.
The issue with Kibbe is that it’s way too easy to misunderstand. It’s taken me years to understand what Kibbe is talking about.
I think a much easier way to find your style is to figure out your Essences. And it’s way more accurate than Kibbe. We all get comments that make it easy to know your main essence.
I used to struggle deciding between SN, SG, and R. I found out my essences are Ingenue, Natural, and Romantic. You can see why I was struggling with Kibbe.
I now know that I’m SN in Kibbe. But I dress better when I just dress for my Essences. Look at Gabrielle Arruda’s channel to figure out your Essences. Or go to Truth-is-Beauty page.
@@BbGun-lw5vi Thank you so much for this advice!
I checked my essences (and ran them by a few family members/friends) and I'm Romantic-Dramatic-Ingenue, which makes total sense with the contrast that I have. I often get told that I can be both cute and sexy, which fits with the whole "girlish femme fatale" label of this mix. I find that when I dress pure romantic, it reads as older or too sexy for me, but that must be because it misses some of the youthful playfulness of ingenue. I'm also either a true or bright winter, so that contrast in my colouring seems to match the contrasting essences well. This makes so much more sense now, so thanks again.
@@michellebaynton You’re welcome. I’m really glad it helped. Just looking at your profile pic I can see Dramatic and Romantic. You’re right that you’re very high contrast. I’m jealous!
But in your PFP, I see Gamine more than Ingenue. You definitely have a playful vibe but people often confuse Gamine with Ingenue. Gamine is more playful, cheeky, and spunky than Ingenue. Which I see in your photo. Both are young but Ingenue is sweet and dainty.
I will say that Kibbe is helpful when it comes to accommodations and fabric. Although Essences can lead you to figure those out too. What’s you’re height by the way? Just from your face, you don’t strike me as Kibbe TR.
@@BbGun-lw5vi Oh interesting - my family said ingenue, but I had thought gamine initially! I wear dresses mostly and really dislike pants overall, so maybe they were swayed away by "boyish." My PFP is a backstage pic with show makeup, so that may skew things a bit, but I could see either tbh. There's just something youthful about me in general. I get the "ageless/young face" comment a lot through casting.
As for my height, I'm 5'4" and a bit. My face doesn't really match my body - I see more angles there than in the rest of me. I look short, have a very large bust, very short arms, legs look longer, short torso, weirdly tiny hands and feet... In general, I'm curvy, but I gain and carry weight in my stomach, which is why at higher weights I feel like my shape is hard to pin down. Tests kept coming out as TR, but I seem to think it was swayed that way due to facial features. I don't have that "birdlike" thing that I kept reading about - my hands are tiny, but wider. That's why I was looking at both SG and R.
@@michellebaynton I see “boyish” be misunderstood a lot when it comes to Gamine. For example, Rihanna has some Gamine essence but you don’t think of boyish when you look at her. Her cheekiness and spunky nature mix with her Romantic essence and it reads as firecracker sexy. Halle Berry is another one that has Gamine mixed with Romantic.
All my life I’ve gotten the same young comments. So I understand. I have Ingenue essence. But I don’t get comments saying I’m cute or playful. I get told I look innocent.
Truth-is-Beauty is a great resource to understand Gamine and how it looks mixed with other essences. She has a channel too but she has very few videos.
The Kibbe test leads to really wrong results. There’s a reason Kibbe is against it now. I wouldn’t type myself with it.
You sound like you could be SG or Romantic. Although there’s a few things that make me thing SG. SGs have some yang somewhere. Like, sharp shoulders, maybe some elongation, straight lines mixed with curved ones. For example, the slight angles in your body and the elongation in your legs.
One thing that could help clarify things is to figure out if you have double curve. Both R and SGs can have double curve but some SGs don’t have it. So if you don’t have it, then you’re probably SG. If you do have double curve then you can still be R or SG.
Double curve is another Kibbe term that’s very misunderstood. It just means that you have curve both in your torso as well as your hip. Some people have large breasts but their breasts don’t curve outside of their torso. Like Jennifer Love Hewitt who’s an FG. Her torso isn’t curved. It looks like this \ /. Then there’s Marilyn Monroe whose breasts push fabric out the sides. And her torso looks like this: ( )
Also Romantics look better with an unbroken line. But SGs look better with some breaking of the line.
I hope this helps.
Your analogy of Elsa in Frozen 2 had my dying 😂 but this was super interesting and I kinda want to try the quiz but may go down a rabbit hole like you 😅 also how would this work with body weight fluctuations? Or post pregnancy bodies (which is me)? I totally was more sharper but have gotten softer (lol) after having a baby and probably will never go back to my pre-preggo body 🙃 also I’m not white so I may get pissed off after taking this 😂
Hahaha glad you enjoyed 😅 I'm not 100% sure but apparently regardless of your body's changes you should remain your Kibbe type, but I do think thr language to get to that initial type can make it difficult from what I can see 🤷♀️
weight has nothing to do with your Kibbe type. But weight fluctuations and overall changes within your body (due to things like pregnancy) can make it way harder to see the features your actually have (especially for the untrained eye). But maybe you can use photos from before you were pregnant to do the quiz. I warn you though, that quiz is confusing and the language Kibbe uses is kinda like from a different reality. If you don't know what he means, you might just tick all the wrong boxes. I really struggle with is way of expression yet find it very interesting. But I think when reading you really feel that this guy views things from a very different perspective than other people. And THAT is what we really need to understand, I think.
Soft classic with romantic essence ✨
You look moderate in all things to me including height and curves. You look do not look short! I'd pick C for nearly everything where you picked D & E. The only E is jawline. Kirsten Dunst is a Kibbe verified Soft Classic kinda similar!
Ugh same, i thought it would help me because im a bit lost in my style. But its even more confusing 😅
The more videos I watch on this subject the more confused I become! 😂
Have you heard of essence? I'm a soft classic too but natural essence
The height thing with Kibbe gets me, as a 5'8" very pear shaped but flat/angular topped person with a waist, I'm automatically a dramatic. But I don't feel like an angular dramatic because my hips are so curvy - but because my waist isn't broad and my arms/chest aren't fleshy, I only have the dramatic option for my height. I just don't really identify with it very much, I guess like you said, at least I know blazers will suit me now but I don't find D clothing recommendations generally flattering
I'm never sure of my type either but i know that I accomodate petite and double curve but have some sharpness in my face and maybe my shoulders ( i feel my shoulders are moderzte to rounded )
Honestly I just don't think this quiz is very good. A lot of the answers pair elements together that don't always go together. Like it assumes if you have a large bust you also have large hips, and if your eyes are round they also have to be large. My eyes are super round but also very small, and my bust is very large, but I have very narrow hips with a strait waist. I think the fact that a large number of people just can't figure out at all what type they are means that it doesn't really work that well.
The trouble with trying to type a person from a photograph is that you lack scale...you can't really see a person's size.
the quiz was literally impossible for me, i was digitally drawing lines on my photo and still not figuring it out haha
I think you might be a soft natural like Rachel maksey? , for some reason I can see naturals easier than other types xx
I’m here though I’m also playing Sims. Bough a new pack today so been exploring that. Anyhow I’ve never heard about the stuff you are talking about. Hmm. Must look into that. I’m never in the best point with my body though, we disagree on several issues like the fact I’m disabled. Maybe it’s not for me, huh?
oooooh love a Sim's expansion 👀 Look to be fair it's a very niche rabbithole 😅 And look, I have mixed feelings, I definitely have some gripes with it's inclusivity / user friendliness, so at this point it's not one I would recommend as easily as other things 🫠
I think I’m a soft dramatic. Being taller I have less to pick from. I’m definitely not angular more fleshy and soft these days. So I went off of a mix of what I used to look like and what I look like now. After having three kids and over 50 my body has changed a lot so looking at past pictures helped to remember what I look like without my menopausal weight. 😅
The background track.. What is it??!! I know it's from a computer/video game of some sort that I used to play. I can't place it!!
Hahah its the Nintendo DS shop music 😅😅😅
@@LucyLivinYT arghhh yes that's what it is!! I couldn't place it. It reminded me of playing Banjo Kazooi on Nintendo64 but I knew that wasn't quite right!
I say any method that works for you, use it but be open to trying new styles, colors and silhouettes. Kibbe seems a bit complex for me, but then I am not a math or statistics person.
I found kibbe frustrating unhelpful and slightly triggering. i think ill just try on different styles and see what i like
Soft classic is my instinctive pigeon-holing of you. Or straight up romantic
Take a shot every time Lucy says "kibbe" 😂👌
You are harsh on yourself! As are we all... If we could see our beauty as others see it... Xx
Mt first visit to your channel (via the colour analysis video) and my immediate reaction is - Romantic! (Post hoc rationalisation below)
I enjoy the system, and found it really helpful in feeling positive about my body. Celebrating it instead of trying to 'fix' it.
I totally think it's a 'vibes' tool as surely we're all somewhere in between types. We're not cookies 😅
I agree, take what you need and leave the details!
Soft or fluffy fabrics seem to look nice on you
Your arms and legs have a fleshiness a bit more than 'moderate'
Waist emphasis seems essential to a balanced look on you
Your hands may not look delicate per say but they do look small
Your shoulders are straight but rounded (some yang)
I'm a theatrical romantic!
I think you’re soft classic with romantic essence. Its the combo of kibbie and kitchener systems …. I’m romantic with romantic, ethereal, classic essences.
You have romantic essence, your face looks like drew barrymore. As far as your body, you have slight vertical and curves. And that sounds so confusing. I think what's most useful is just going off of the silhouettes that fit you because you'll never fit into just 1 category. I think you should try mainly romantic silhouettes with some dramatic/classic elements.
The blurred feet in the reference photo 🤣
no free toes!! know ur worth bbs 😘
Oh yes, they Caucasian-centrism really shows. My nose is very much on the smaller side of my ethnicity but combined with my bushy brows(also a feature of my ethnicity), still makes my face (Flamboyant) Natural, which is heavily mismatched with my predominantly narrow body.
That pink floral top is so cute!
I'm 174cm tall, but I still think I'm a romantic haha
I don't know about anyone else, but this seems to me like maybe it's meant to be taken as a spectrum deal, and not a one or the other kind of thing. So like what if you're not a perfect example of a style or body type, all people are unique and no scale can really ever put us in a box Ya know.
The more I look into it, the more I see that “Kibbie” is not at all an exact science. With science, an experiment should be able to be replicated and still get the same results. Apparently only Kibbie can get consistent results.
From the neck down I would be a romantic but my lips are pretty thin. I’ve always loved ruffles and fluffles in my clothes (my mom always complained about wash my supper delicate clothes, now my husband) so romantic just suits me. I think it should just be a general guideline and nothing to sweat over.
Did Kibbe do men too? Or is it just us women who get to obsess about our bodies?
I don't think I'll ever find my type sadly. My friends have recently been obsessed with Kibbe, but I find it to be a bit limiting for a tall-ish person (172cm). I've been told there are only three types I could fit in, and none of those really suit my body, so welp. I love that it can help other people, though!
Yeah the automatic vertical categorisation for some people seemed to be a common criticism online from what I've read! In that they don't feel represented by those 3 types :/ Again I think if you find something that fits it can be really helpful but if it doesn't 'feel right' it can be a discouraging experience
If you take your height out of the equation, what do you feel suits yourself most? What we may not forget is that the average person was shorter some time ago. What was tall then might be average now. I don't think 172cm is THAT tall or too tall for certain types. Maybe too tall for a full on Romantic and Soft Gamine but the rest? Try looking at yourself again with that in mind, maybe it makes way more sense to you that way.
@@LucyLivinYT Very that! I think you were right to make a little disclaimer in the beginning of the video regarding how it can be kinda triggering if you struggle with body image issues. Thankfully I have a very "it is what it is" kind of neutral relationship with my body, so I'm just glad it can help others, even if I don't feel entirely represented myself. ❤
@@JuliaKirsty That's a really interesting insight! Most of my answers are classic, with some romantic sprinkled in when it comes to my waist and hips. Because of that, and other factors ofc hehe, I do not reeeaaallly identify with dramatic classic despite my height. Taking your theory into consideration, I think I got most in common with the true classic type, even though it's not in the system anymore.
Girrrrrl I see you!!! Kibbe is a wormhole of confusion. I have been deep diving in kibbe and mcjimmsey for a few years and still feel like I'm still wrapping my head around it.
I am a self-diagnosed romantic, it was pretty clear for me to see that because I have a very prominent double curve. I had my partner complete the test for me and he confirmed it.
Essences (mcjimmsey) really changed the game for me because romantic always felt like my prominent shape but not my personality. When I found my ingenue essence then natural and ethereal undercurrent - it really helped. As a baby of the 90s (the era of thinner body types), kibbe system helped me see the beauty of my body. I grew up wanting to rid myself of my curves as I looked more "vulgar" in clothes compared to my friends. My curves was always prominent and I didn't like it, so I draped myself in layers and clothing that hid my body. Kibbe system helped me see the beauty in my body but also in the body of EVERY type.
BUT I see how you are confused. As a viewer of your channel for a hot minute, my initial thought was you are a theatrical romantic. You have definitely got some curve (yin) but moderate height - in my opinion - but you know yourself best!
But after this video I am gentling landing on soft classic for you, with a romantic & ingenue essence and maybe a hint of gamine or ethereal essence?
But I don't need a body type test to see how gorg you are! Love your videos :)
Kibbe king made me laugh out loud
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Great video! I think you were on the right track with soft classic leaning romantic. I don’t think we fit the kibbe types 100 % none of us and I use it as a sort of baseline system. I’m actually the same height as you and I got theatrical romantic or flamboyant gamine in the kibbe test. Trying out the lines made me sure on flamboyant gamine, I don’t wear the short boxy lines, because I’m quite tall for a flamboyant gamine, just under 5’6 with short answer E limbs and long torso and neck. I just use the juxtaposition lines, I think some of the other recommendations are more suited for shorter women, like the boxy shapes because I’m quite curvy like Audrey Hepburn with a small waist, wide hips like her but bigger chest. Technically would be a soft gamine if I was shorter I think, just a little too elongated and angular in my frame to suit soft gamine lines. You have a majority of yin in your facial features imo so I think you really would look good in the romantic details that are more essence based and closer to your face, for example the top you’re wearing, curls, ruffles, florals, light colored fabrics, romantic necklines like sweetheart and then on your lower body, shoes and waist go for soft classic.
I think it’s a helpful system to learn about how to use our body proportions to make outfits work, because I’m a flamboyant gamine most outfits didn’t look good on my body but now when I know I have to use opposites in my styling, my outfits are a lot better. But when we get too nitpicking and try to force our bodies to fit the box it’s not helpful anymore. I think you have a great style regardless of your kibbe type ☺️
I'm probably something between TR and SG, and it's quite hard because the recommendation for both of them I just found low key ugly, so I try my best to not take it seriously, but not gonna lie it's the bane of my existence
I think if you can’t replicate the experiment, then the experiment is flawed and the results are too varied for a conclusion