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  • 1) the two best 177 cylinderkits directly compared. the "old" M1X 172 vs the brand new malossi sport 177. 2) & sport 210 vs 177. & 3) some more detailed sport pic + 4) sport on a polini 177 engine case.
    which one is your favourite?
    piston: clearlly m1x
    timings: sport, esp for 60mm stroke
    exhaust port: sport, due to not too big
    transfer ports: m1x
    boost port: sport
    exhaust noozle: sport
    piston pin: m1x
    price: sport (345) vs m1x (380)
    it looks like sport hits nr1 :)
    --) the new BEST vespa 177 cylinder (--
    whats YOUR opinion?
    MHR vs SPORT
    why not mhr? for BOX si rotary valve setups = most of the setups:
    low transfer timings do make sense and not too high exhaust port timings. so your first 177 tuning choice is malossi SPORT, not the mhr.
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    DISCLAIMER: the information shown in this video, is about THIS specific hardware. it is my personal observation documented with this video. It DOESNT automatically mean, that all such parts by this producer or seller do have or will have same issues.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 53

  • @samihasib
    @samihasib 5 років тому +1

    can I retain auto-lube with Malossi Sports 177 kit? WIll 24mm SI Carb do the job?

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  5 років тому +1

      if the oilpump is serviced, yes, sure.
      solve the fuel supply problems of the SI and set it correctly
      not that you then blame it on the si ;)

  • @ibrahimbhalfas8195
    @ibrahimbhalfas8195 3 роки тому +2

    Thx for ur video knowledge bout vespa! Not boring at all to see those🍻. I’ll choose VMC 177cc, ur video help me to decide. But just curious what is the best 200cc kits? What do you think?
    Vielen dank!

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  3 роки тому +1

      its very easy if you look onto the piston quality, best 200cc kits are for rotary: malossi sport 210, for reed: quattrini m244

    • @ibrahimbhalfas8195
      @ibrahimbhalfas8195 3 роки тому

      @@FreakMoPed8 i just understand now after watch your: ua-cam.com/video/PJG7G1_tDBE/v-deo.html
      I’ll choose malossi sport 210 for rotary valve if, i change my mind for 200cc. For daily use and tour 200cc better or 177cc VMC is okay? I already use si24 and polini box. What crankshaft you recommed?
      Thx a lot for your answer keep up the cool video bout vespa sir!🤜🏾🤛🏾
      Note: iam very newbie, thats why need your opinion

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  2 роки тому

      sorry, didnt see this. 177 for daily is absolutely fine!

    • @marcokauenhowen773
      @marcokauenhowen773 2 роки тому

      @@FreakMoPed8 im sorry to ask this but i dont know anything about vespas and im very interested.. What is the diference between polini, quattrini amd what is malossi? Im on the hunt for information. Sprichst du Deutsch?

  • @RashidKhan-yl3ni
    @RashidKhan-yl3ni 4 роки тому

    Can I get malossi from sport 177 from you? What the price? And where are you from?

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  4 роки тому

      not a shop, just an amateur hobby mechanic ;)

  • @pambudiychannel
    @pambudiychannel 4 роки тому +1

    Sorry maybe you must be check BGM Cilinder re-porting and re polished by Ajivas on his channel, thankz...

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  4 роки тому +2

      and why exactöy do you think i should do that? in general: there are certain brand which are better be avoided, due to an economic approach and potential regarding quality management / control. when a brand is selling low end quality cranks as very good TUNING cranks, which are not even appropiate for original engines, i do not trust them with any other hardware.
      and a IF small series china cylinder from a dealer, than the reasonable priced as VMC.
      vmc, malossi, quattrini are the best 177cc kits.

  • @mamatz2767
    @mamatz2767 5 років тому +1

    whether the quattrini and malossi blocks above can be chartered ?
    Sorry my inggris is bad

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  5 років тому

      Sry didnt get it. What do you mean with chartered.

    • @mamatz2767
      @mamatz2767 5 років тому +1

      @@FreakMoPed8what i mean is over size
      forgive me I can't speak English I use google taranslite and the word I entered is wrong im sorry bro...

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  5 років тому +1

      no oversize piston needed, they last very long, if any you usually just replace the piston after some time, thats no problem as long as the coating is fine. if you want to bore it you need a new coating and this costs around 250,-

    • @mamatz2767
      @mamatz2767 5 років тому +1

      @@FreakMoPed8 thanks for the information, in Indonesia there may not be a coating for the wall block, that's the reason I ask if he lasts longer and the loser is only a piston no matter the cost of replacing it is not too expensive, thanks again for the information ...

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  5 років тому

      i am a fan of cast iron cylinders anyways!

  • @maulanayusuf6953
    @maulanayusuf6953 5 років тому +1

    Are sport and mhr have significant in power difference? What the characteristic of sport and mhr in your opinion

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  5 років тому

      different cylinder timings. Sport lower, mhr higher.
      Sport = touring, rotary valve, for si carb box setups the first choice.
      Mhr = maximum power, reed valve

    • @samihasib
      @samihasib 5 років тому

      @@FreakMoPed8 can I retain auto-lube with Malossi Sports 177?

    • @museic17
      @museic17 4 роки тому

      What does it mean to have low cylinder timings and high cylinder timings? What does it do to the bike? Does it make the engine run faster or slower? Appreciate your response!

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  2 роки тому

      sorry didnt see this earlier. early or late power. both fast. i prefer torque = early power as its available in 4 gears. reving power is often already in 3rd not really available anymore... so often a 2gear effect

  • @aftabalam3987
    @aftabalam3987 Рік тому

    Cost of these 2
    And where i can buy this

  • @dchannel1508
    @dchannel1508 4 роки тому +1

    I have super 150 1973.....give me an advise how to upgrade the performance....including recommended part to hheheh.....also which one do you prefer for good acceleration but also great for touring....pollini,malossi or quattrini......thank you

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  4 роки тому

      Two or three port engine?

    • @dchannel1508
      @dchannel1508 4 роки тому

      I dont know...but its still standart....no parr replacement at all....i got it from my grandpa...

    • @dchannel1508
      @dchannel1508 4 роки тому

      Oh once more i got some choices...
      1.malossi 177 cast
      2. Parmakit 177 TSV
      3.BGM alloy 177
      Which one do you recommend for the purpose i said before...
      Thanks

    • @dchannel1508
      @dchannel1508 4 роки тому

      Engine code VBC1M

    • @dchannel1508
      @dchannel1508 4 роки тому

      @@FreakMoPed8 engine code vbcm1...and its still standart

  • @geoebresearch9782
    @geoebresearch9782 5 років тому +1

    Hi bro so overall Malossi sport 177 is the best ratio of choice ?

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  5 років тому

      for touring yes. I would take the malossi or as a cheaper option thr vmc 177

    • @geoebresearch9782
      @geoebresearch9782 5 років тому

      mista FreakMoPed thanks for ur reply bro, alright I will choose Malossi for u advise

    • @geoebresearch9782
      @geoebresearch9782 5 років тому

      mista FreakMoPed thanks for ur help bro :)

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  5 років тому

      But buy at smaller shops, its available for less than 400 there

    • @geoebresearch9782
      @geoebresearch9782 5 років тому

      @@FreakMoPed8 bro which shop u would recon?

  • @aliffdzulhailie4599
    @aliffdzulhailie4599 4 роки тому

    I dont know what to buy..whether it is quatrini 172 m1x or m1xl or vespone pinasco rx190 or parmakit 210. For my engine 150cc...can u suggest me

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  4 роки тому

      it gets easier when you check the pistons that are used, instead of getting blinded by advertisment texts, which rarely tell the truth as they are sales and profit oriented.
      All pinasco pistons do have potential. Go to my fb page and you will find quite some pictures. Also parmakit pistons are on the efficient side. Only quattrini uses state of the art meteor pistonas, and there you go 🙃 cheaper alternativ, also a new very good cyl with proper piston (not! Cracking) is vmc

    • @aliffdzulhailie4599
      @aliffdzulhailie4599 3 роки тому

      @@FreakMoPed8 how about clutch?whats u recomend ?feredo is good enough?

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  3 роки тому

      both px old and cosa clutch have to be strengthened. checkout the diy clucth guide

  • @appisalpis55
    @appisalpis55 4 роки тому

    Which the best???quattrini 172 or malossi 177 sport???

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  4 роки тому +2

      quattrini. surf web for malossi 177, the pistons are a bit weak. the m1x has a top meteor piston

    • @appisalpis55
      @appisalpis55 4 роки тому

      @@FreakMoPed8 thanks for your respond...okey....now i want proceed to next project.....🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

    • @appisalpis55
      @appisalpis55 4 роки тому

      @@FreakMoPed8 thanks for your respond...okey....now i want proceed to next project.....🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @aliffila698
    @aliffila698 3 роки тому +1

    how about malossi 187?

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  3 роки тому

      will be the same kit. be aware of that the malossi piston has a weak spot and can crack there sadly...

    • @aliffila698
      @aliffila698 3 роки тому

      @@FreakMoPed8 hello sir..allready bought m1x quatrini with mazu crankshaft..and what is the suitable cluth for my setting?do u recomend ferodo clutch?

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  3 роки тому

      no. its not. all standard clutches, no matter which brand (pretty much all the same replica stuff just branded) it not appropiate for tuning as the tabs of the linings are too thin and get damaged pretty fast with the easy achievable power nowadays. get yourself HONDA CR80 clutch linings, you can adjust the tab by yourself. px old needs a ring around the basket, cosa clutch needs ring and additional welding points or rivets between the existing rivets.

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  3 роки тому

      also see this:
      ua-cam.com/video/GxBsrRuCQr4/v-deo.html

  • @nyomansutriana3622
    @nyomansutriana3622 4 роки тому +1

    Apasi