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if you are a true biker.. including mtb/dh /trial.. the riding position on a liter race bike.. aint that bad.. but only if you are physically in order.. ;) a desk job noob..will have some issues. .
charlie ryan this is very true. Iv got my R6 for the fun, Tracer 900 GT for touring, and my Stryker for just cruising around. The more bikes the happier the soul!
Eremite man awesome bud! Same here bro. Turned 46 in July and I’ve never owned any other type of bike. Started with a 93 CBR600F2 then went to a 98 GSXR600 then to a 01 R1 then had a kid in 06 and sold it and 3 years ago the wife gave me the green light for a bike and I found myself a mint low mileage 2006 R1 in blue bone stock with only 18k miles on it. Thing is mint. However just Thursday it started making a weird noise that’s either timing chain tensioner or a valve guide or valves need adjustment. I’ll find out Monday.
You guys bring me hope. All I ever hear these days is. Get a naked bike, it’s the only answer.. everything else is uncomfortable and not practical for the road cause it’s to fast and doesn’t have any storage and blah blah blah.
Bro everyone starts on a 600 nowadays. This guy just thinks his opinion is GOD and he is honestly ignorant. He can’t even ride a sport bike because his little “back hurts” XD
Here in England everyone suffers from mr macho man big bollocks syndrome so they all jump on 1000cc bikes as soon as possible and most are still alive ......don't ride like a complete bellend and respect the bikes power you will be good ...just remember you play stupid games you win stupid prizes
@@connorrichter5920 hell yeah late reply but I come into the motorcycle world quite a few years ago now but all I ever see is this seat is so uncomfortable that bike is so uncomfortable don’t get it you’ll regret it, you need a naked bike. Coming from dirt bike riding all day long and honestly never once have I thought this is uncomfortable. Now I feel like I’m sitting on a couch when I got on a r1. People are to easily spoilt.
Keep in mind... he just stated a GROM is a “one purpose race bike”... Clearly his bowling ball of a head doesn’t have many true facts. This channel is just contradicting and over opinionated
Allen Klingsporn blasphemy. Lol. Nah I hear ya. I commute on mine as many days as weather permits as well. However mine just started making some weird noise. It’s at the shop now. It’s either the timing chain tensioner or the valve guide is worn. I hope to god it’s the tensioner. Lol. Way cheaper and easier to fix.
Most riders over their 20's own a car and a motorcycle. The car can do all the boring stuff. The motorcycle can be a dedicated performance machine where you get in the zone and spend a bit of time in heaven.
You can have both. I'm 25 have a Kawasaki z650 as my daily bike, s1000r as my fun bike. A Subaru outback as my daily car and a Subaru sti and e63 as my fun cars. I just don't have a budget to own anything else 😅😅
Busas look like dogshit. Started on an r6. Once my core was conditioned for riding, I could ride all day everyday with no issues. Also helps a ton to be comfortable mentally so you aren’t tensing your legs, arms etc.
@@SDMacMan I ride a sports-style (yes it's no 600 but the riding position is the exact same) bike and I actually find it more comfortable than an upright bike. On a standard bike, all the shock goes first through the tyres, then suspension, then frame and then your spine. But on a sports bike the shock goes through your legs first before your spine. Not to mention if your muscles get tired you can always go full tuck and not have to support your weight.
I'm 57 y/o, and find it more comfortable to rest on the tank than sit bolt upright on long rides. When I ride for 24 hours or more straight, I spend most of that time tucked. That said, the most important thing to me for enduring long rides is being able to change position, and I do like to be able to sit up a little straighter for a bit from time to time. I also move my feet to the passenger pegs, move forward or back in the saddle for a bit, and stand on the pegs from time to time when my legs become cramped. Your mileage may vary...
Don’t disagree and my primary ride is an S1000RR. On most roads, I rarely crack 10% throttle. Hell, on some technical tracks, 600s are quicker since you can’t take advantage of 200HP even there. If I’m going for a quick errand, I’ll jump on my RC390 every time. It’s just so much more relaxed and less physical to ride. But for riding to and in the mountain twisties, bring on the S1000RR!
I had the opportunity to get the RR. But where I live you're lucky to find any Twisties. I ended up buying the S1000R and haven't regretted it yet. Absolutely love the bike and it's perfect for the street
The discomfort of a supersport is grossly exaggerated. While it is an aggressive position your knees are not touching your elbows, and can be comfortable for hours. I rode 2 horus to a track, did a full track day and rode the 2 hours home. I was not in any way aching. My inner thighs were sore from gripping so hard but that is more the track thing. You'd expect a sore back from what he is saying but not in my experience. They're not single purpose, I commuted and yes in the rain. I loved having my bluetooth headphones in and cruising forever. If you get a litre bike, you'll love the power but you'll miss actually 'riding' a bike. Revving and jamming through the gears and leaning. The bigger bikes are significantly heavier and the side to side is a lot slower and less fun. You'll be in first gear all around town so you don't get the shifting either. If you want the power, you have it but it's a compromise and subjective to what you want in a bike. No idea what the naked comment is about, it's literally nothing but an aestheic, any bike can have a visor or have it removed. Personally I prefer the visor, naked is for cafe racers ;P Do what you feel and ride the bike you enjoy!
You’re comparing sports bikes to other bikes using useless comparatives. A sports bike owner doesn’t buy one for comfort or carrying capacity, we buy it for the speed and the thrill and the comrades you get all being out and having fun together.
Not sure mate you get up to those hyper-nakeds like the S1000R, Super Duke R, Speed Triple, and Tuono V4 (my current motorcycle) most can keep up with just about anything. Sure my Tuono has a top speed of 170ish so pretty much any new 1000cc will give me a run for the money. Even with being a naked still have the thrill of a 3 second 0-60 and under 11 second 1/4 mile. Still more comfy and can ride much long than most supersports plus you also have the added bonus of more luggage options.
I want to fly like a bird, or a fighter jet. But I am a human bean and cannot afford a multi million dollar fighter jet. So I ride the hell out of my Zx6r for about 8 hours on the weekends 🌝
Im 56..had back surgery and rotator surgery.. Ive owned 4 harleys and 8 supersports... I sold all the harleys and currently ride a 2018 Gsxr 750...My back feels great on my rocket..killed me on all my harleys..Smh.
I'm 60 and have an 07 Daytona 675 and a 29 year old CBR6 too. I guess I'm addicted. I work out purely so that I'm fit enough to ride them. I don't even want to think that there will be a day when I can't.
This video is like if someone would tell you: 'yeah formula 1 cars are bad engineered because they cant run through deep mud and are all in all bad offraod so they are bad engineered cars and also they are bad because they arent street legal' Like what the heck. They arent bad bikes just because they arent as good in conditions other bikes are good in. You also don't say supercross bikes are bad because you cant lean them over as far as a moto gp bike. Please Yammie, bring more real facts in your videos and not some shit you just came up with to support your thesis that have no meaning to them. ~J
That's what happens when you try to make 10 videos a week. Quality takes a dive. This is the first YN video I've clicked on in months and I feel like it's the exact same video I last watched. Maybe I need to unsub.
600cc bikes are fine to start on depending on how you did in the MSF course. If you were super comfortable and felt like the tasks were easy, a 600cc is okay to start on. But if you kept stalling or had trouble with the tests then that's where you should consider starting small. Speaking from experience.
Ducati Storage-my pockets Suspension-stiff(cuz iam nuts) Overheats-every redlight Parts-$$$ Jail- a few times Near deaths- once in while Times I thought about selling her-0 Times I thought about smacking the crap outta someone when they say," when you going to grow up and get a harley"-too many to count. Ride what YOU love,
They look way sexier than nakeds, just my opinion. Id rather get a handlebar riser kit on a sportbike than have a naked. Although that fz-07 sure sounds pretty effin sick with that crossplane....
@@reecetaylor9518 i just like the look of fully faired supersports more, that's basically my main reason lol. Its hard to look past it in my opinion, im sure my opinion will change in the future as i havent ridden a naked yet.
@@robertlizarraga9716 as a Ninja 300 owner, I took 2 demo rides and both had the new zx6r(which i love and plan to buy this year) and the z900. Never though of naked bikes but the z900 changed my mind.
Aftermarket clipons, Woodcraft or e-bay specials place your weight forward in a semi-tuck position. A good compromise in that you don't have nearly as much weight on your wrists, yet gives the bike a better feel for dipping into the twisties. Face it, with those hard, thin seats you don't want to be on them over 45 minutes anyway
No you don’t have to get a cruiser because your over 50. Im 62 years old I own 4 bikes 1995 Zx9r, 2012 zx10r, 2015 H2 And a 2015 gold wing. ( for touring with the misses). I ride the h2 and the zx10 regularly. My first road bike was a Z1a 900. You should always ride what you like And you don’t have change your bike just because you get a little older Ride because you love it.
Add a touring tank bag, and you'll change your tune. No more tired wrists, back or legs. Just put your change of cloths init along with your sandwiches and you'll be very comfy.
At 53 I ride a 2005 R1. All I have ever ridden is super sport bikes, and they are all I will ever ride. I tried different styles but just could not give up the performance.
Yep I ride with a friend that has a 2006 GSX-R 1000 that has over 250k miles on it, looks little rough(lower fairings all toast at this point, only upper fairing/nose on the bike now) but he can ride the wheels off it.......older guy been riding all his life
I'm 50 and have been in the saddle of my 06 CBR1000RR on rides in excess of 10 hours with no pain. Admittedly was a bit sore the next day. But was well worth it. As to the need for speed on the streets, there are all to often circumstances where that massive acceleration (not to mention the nimbleness) has gotten me out of some scary traffic situations. I don't feel I can ever go back to riding a cruiser. Too boring.
I refuse to ride anything but my 1000. I've been on a Vrod and a couple nakeds. Going fast is in my nature. If you're hurting on a superbike, workout your back and practice better posture on the bike and stop leaning on the bars.
Uncomfortable: absolutely, but so was all those bmx bikes I rode till I was 19. I guess I’m just a glutton for punishment. Why super sport?: My uncle had several throughout my youth and I drooled with envy.
If sports bikes are stupid, then stupid is good. The world would be a boring place if everyone road a practical bike. Would there even be motorcycles? Rain hail or shine, my new S1000rr puts a smile on my face every time, even just to ride home after a crap day at work.
I think you're right on most counts, but missed one option when discussion the spot between 300cc intro bikes and 600cc missiles. The big 4 all make what are often called "introductory sport bikes" right in that spot, or have made them in the past. Suzuki has the GSX650F, Honda the CBR650R (previously the CBR650F), Yamaha had the FZ6R, and Kawasaki has the Ninja 650 (EN-650F). I'd also plop in that category Ducati's SuperSport. Any of those machines will fill that void pretty nicely. Granted they are a tad less race oriented than the 600cc supersports, with conventional handlebars and eased riding positon, but those are features found on most of the 300cc beginner bikes anyway. Honestly, for the road, I think this category is far and away the most practical. Practical doesn't mean cool, but for 95% of riders I know, who never make it to a track, it's all they need.
@ 62 yo, absolutely love my Duc 1198S. Biggest issue/complaint, pipes under seat bakes the butt and legs if your in traffic. Avoid traffic. Is the sore neck, frozen knee joins, stiff back worth it? Oh yeah. However, it's not my only bike. Looking real hard at adding a Guzzi cruiser to the stable.
Been on my 05 gsxr1k since 05... ridden other bikes. But nothing compares to my sports. Many, many long rides. Ny to va, ny to pa, ny to Delaware, setting up now for a ny to georga.... I love the instant good-bye factor. And even the fastest cars, most likely wont catch up during normal highway operation times.
ZX6R 08, I used it daily for 50000 milles (first two years i had it limited to 25kw)now i have it only for track days. Then I got a KTM 790 AdvR. It has better ergonomics but I find it clumsy and heavy, not nice for the city (I have it only for off road, maybe i need something smaller, but so far so good) . And I just ordered a zx10r 21 let's see how it works, I hope the ergonomics dont kill me. 😅😅😅
Just discovered the channel researching riding as I just got my first bike (honda shadow 600). Now I've been on a video binge and love the channel. I shall now join the group as a baby squidlet.
Sorry Yammie Boob, you missed the mark on this one. I am 66 years old and have ridden and owned different styles of motorcycles over the years. Sport bikes have the right position for control when accelerating and cornering. Is that not what a street motorcycle is for? On a sport bike your weight is nicely distributed between feet, seat and hands. A fairing gives some weather protection and keeps the wind from beating you, besides being far more aerodynamic. I started with a naked bike in 1972 (they all were naked back then) and am never going back to eating bugs !
TravianBoy221 I started on an 05 gsxr600, total noob with no experience and I’ve never had a problem with “too much power” either. But I do come from a background of racing. I’ve raced lots of really fast cars and so I guess the power and speed just felt natural to me lol.
Me, who started on R125 and upgraded to Ninja 400 be like: Also me, whos gonna add one of them 300cc 2-stroke Dirtbikes soon: And after that - me, whos gonna add an even bigger sportbike, once he may:
My first bike was a 87 ninja 750r and I have been riding super sports exclusively year round and all weather for the last 28 years. It all depends on what obsesses you. My current bike is a 2nd gen Aprilia rsv1000 factory. I love this sh*t !
bought an 05 R6 for riding 4 roads specifically. I ride all year round in a city environment and have a love-hate relationship with my clutch. but even with all of that I still wouldn't change it for the world. with the suspension set super soft its fine on the bumpy roads for an hr or 2 and for the fun commuting on country roads, it's the best purchase I have made. Though the super duke 1290r looks mighty tasty with the new suspension linkage and less wiggle mid-corner.
Solution? Just ride 1 wheel up, you're riding upright. Duh. But srsly tho.. gonna keep riding supersporks cause i dont have complaints about comfy-ness.
so, been riding sportbikes for 8 years now, had a naked, had a touring, still prefer the riding position of a sportbike, even on longer rides. on the naked and touring i started getting pain in the lower back, leaning a bit more forward seems to reduce that spinal stress i suppose. current daily is an '05 R1 with saddlebags, i keep em on, it's handy and it doesn't feel different to ride, even up to 170kmh (105mph-ish) i couldnt tell the bags were on. anyway i think i'm one of those get old and still ride sportsbikes dudes. dragging knee at age 65, or at least i hope so
If you ride enough, you grow into the bike, in terms of mental and physical comfort. The key is, take some breaks, which is necessary on any bike. My lifehack is standing up in red lights. Sure it's not the linen cloud that is the GS1200, but still :)
Honestly passed my test (UK) last year and got my first bike ever r6. Done a 300mile straight with no stops other than petrol and I was fine the entire time. Neck gets used to wind, wrist and back adjusts after first 2 weeks and it's not like I'm exactly young (29 in June). Oh for context I got the bike 3 weeks ago too, so comfort wise I'm very comfortable and I commute everyday on it (even through storm Dennis and the previous one)
I got a colorful sports bike and half the time I just look at it admiring its beauty and get alot of compliment as well. That folks is why I will always stick will a full fairing motorcycle.
After having my ZX14R for a year, I got a 2019 WR450-F. Now i am seriously thinking of selling the ZX14. I finally understand what you have been saying. You can have more fun on a supermoto, or smaller CC BIKE, than a sport bike. (ON THE STREET) and you won’t be doing triple the speed limit in a 4 sec pull.
Thats what i say. You dont have to own a 600/1000 cc Bike to have fun, an enduro/supermoto will make you more happy that those supersports (imo). Everyone has different a opinion on which bike they prefere, but i'm defenitly this guy who's drifting around with his 300ccm 2 stroke sumo :P
Athanatos .. i hear ya. Thinking of turning the WR450 to a supermoto and selling the ZX14 and getting a CRF 250R. It’s amazing how one can evolve after riding a few different bikes, terrain and styles. Not to mention, it is much cheaper to repair, if a repair is needed, after a spill.
Don’t know how long you have been riding but for us older gents & ladies there’s no such thing as a perfect bike because they all have something to offer a rider. As far as Sports Bikes are only for racing , Hmmm I commuted on my GSXR 100K8 all year long for years . My mate is a mechanic and doesn’t have a car he uses his R1 to commute 30 miles each way , every day for at least the last 9 years. It’s down to tyres & riding gear mate.
@@187misfitsspade Mehhh... money and value is subjective based on individual preferences and financial circumstances. I paid cash on delivery for my ride FWIW, but I know that many are paying loads in monthly payments too. Motorcycles in general are not investments, they are expensive money pits. We ride them anyway.
i started riding motorcycles because I loved to race at Summit Point in West Virginia. Riding on a closed asphalt circuit going as fast as your bike will go is straight up addictive. Road racing is the only way to compete. Balls to the wall on machines built to launch you off the starting grid. I can only imagine having a factory built MotoGP machine.
Hop on a gixxer. I am 6'1 and I have done many 3-4 hours rides and every time I got to my destination, I was physically ready to go back. I have sat on the CBR, ZX-6R... Yes, uncomfortable. Gsxr? Lower seating height, less raked position. Super comfy, honestly.
I rode scooters, cruisers, standards, and always wondered what a sports bike would be like. I always hate riding and people are whizzing by me at 70, 80 mph. No fun riding
I went to the shop yesterday and they told me i can’t start on a R3 bc I’m 6’2, 215 lbs is that right? Am i to big for that? I was thinking the CBR 500R cause I’m not trying to kill myself or my back.
Seriously. I want a sport tourer with like 100hp and id be set...but i can’t find that anywhere :/ things either don’t have the HP (or waaaay too much) or they are some other type of bike (no i don’t want a naked with a windscreen). Ive been looking at the cbr650r though. Potential?
@@Jagknorr well the kawasaki 1400 gtr has 154 hp but the looks of that bike aint stiking plus they heavy but its something im considering. the cbr650r would be nice yeah.
@@blakemax14 Ninja 1000 and VFR800's weigh about the same @ ~235kg. They're both a bit fat. Thats a solid 30kg more compared to a 1000cc supersport like an R1 or CBR1000RR
Had buddy leave his HD Road King with me to take care of while away for the military. I had to force myself to ride it. I didn't even want to be seen on it but I rode it. Sometimes all day but I always wished I was on my R1. But I did learn hours in the saddle makes ya sore regardless, just different spots on different bike types. (The Goldwing will probably be an exception) BTW bought my 1st at 25 and i'll be 50 in a few months. There is still, nor will there ever be, desire to get a cruiser.
Daily ride: Ninja 650 For trips: FJR1300 Supersport: 3rd or 4th bike for track use, budget allowing... I find the Ninja 650 to be a well rounded bike for daily use, fast and agile enough to be a lot of fun, while still relatively practical and economical to own and maintain. Ideally, I would own at least 6 bikes, including one or two supersports, but they would not be my first choice for daily use. Were it not for chain maintenance, I would be content to ride the Ninja on long trips as well. I have done 1600+ miles in 27 hours on it, and would do it again, but it's a real pain servicing the chain every 3rd fuel stop on that sort of ride. Still, the little Ninja is as close as I've come to finding my unicorn. If money was not an issue, I might feel differently, but in my current situation, if I had to choose only one bike, it's the Ninja 650 for me. I am fortunate enough to not care one whit about the choices others make or their opinions of my choices. Love your R1? Good for you. Love feeling superior because your bike is bigger, faster, cost more, has more mods, or whatever? Enjoy. I only care about pleasing myself.
@@clayman1980 You obviously never rode 24 hours or more non-stop, including through rain, on a chain driven bike... Your chain will run very hot during long trips at highway speeds, and o-rings tend to fail rather quickly if the chain is run dry. And I hardly consider lubing your chain every 400 miles or so "micromanagement" anyway. I neglected to "micromanage" my chain on my first long trip, and learned my lesson the hard way. It is possible that I might get away with somewhat increased maintenance intervals, but I prefer to err on the side of caution. If there's anything worse than chain maintenance on trips, it's chain failure. This is, of course, my own opinion, based on my own needs, values, priorities, and reasoning. I would not presume to criticize anyone who disagrees.
@@michaellovell2518 Thanks. I thought there was something else about it going on. While you are right that I never rode more than 180 miles in one day, I do lube my chain regularly, i.e. every 500-600 kms. Mind you, I have already had some people tell me I sweat the chain maintenance too much, but it is indeed better to be safe than sorry.
i want the bike that can give me confidence when cornering and speeding. Only super sport and super bike can give this requirement. Already own naked bike (Fully Naked/z800), change it immediate after use it for 5 month. Also already try touring bike, i feel not secure when speeding near 200km/h. (Multistrada). That bike fast for sure but the ergonomics not focused to aggressive riding.
I have v2 Panigale as a dedicated track bike. The track is its naturally habitat. It's a torture rack on the street. This 950s is perfect for the street, and i have that too. It also pays homage to the tradition of the Ducati SS with that wonderful engine. It's the gentleman's sport bike for the street, for old 53 year old men like me... We were born into motorcycling before the human sail machines that are ADV bikes emerged ;-)
My experience with motorcycles began in 1979/80. In the apartment my family lived there was a window that looked down on the driveway to a parking lot for the next apartment building! parked on the side of the driveway was a 1977 Yamaha RD 400 two stroke, in silver white color. Wow, that was such a beauty and a crazy rocket for a 17 year old. Due to that mind enlightening experience I started to buy light 2 stroke Yamahas. I raced a 1984 Yamaha RZ 350 for 3 years as a novice, that was so much fun! Now. nearing 57 years old, I still go to track days with either my 1980 TZ125, modified RD250, and a 60th anniversary R6 witch is the same color scheme as my Kenny Roberts RZ350 model from 1984. happy I didn't kill myself in my late teenage years! Different world and different time...
Yammie, how tall are you? I’m 6’ and my Daytona is surprisingly comfortable on a long ride, more so than other super sports I have ridden, and actually more so than my z900 as well. Something about the seat and the long reach to the bars, I am completely relaxed
I don't think I've ever seen a superbike rider on the highway that was cruising with both hands on the bars. They always have that one hand on the hip, trying to relieve their back pain, and switching up the hand on the bars.
Donno. My Ducati 748 still hasn't killed or even threatened my back, and I am 69. I did put in aftermarket risers. Allowing my hands to retain feeling when out on the superslab.
Only thing better than cornering is making it through a really rough section of dirt, and maybe get a little air. Legit the endorphin rush you get after is like being shot up with morphine.
Supersport looks, naked bike ergos, sport touring fuel tank, seat, and internal storage. Big displacement 800cc-1200cc DOHC water cooled fuel injected v-twin for usable street power.
Stop selling junk. Your back shouldn't hurt if you know what your doing. Taking long rips on rockets is no problem if you are a hardcore rider. It takes talent to ride it's not about the money. If you really know what your doing it takes more time to learn how to ride a supper sport or even a bike cost more then a car. Time cost money. Tank bags people. Bikes are not a hobby it's a life style.
Not the speed triple's fault. I've commuted for 10 yrs on mine year-round in northern NJ and never had any trouble. Mine didn't have the AI nannyware yet and does exactly what I ask it to do, which I love.
I had back surgery and actually find the sport bike far more comfortable than the upright seating of a cruiser. May not resonate for all but does work for me. Hell I bought a liter bike and can say theres nothing that pulls those numbers for that price. To get a car to go 180 mph and drive it everyday would cost over 200k for sure and the maintenance schedule would be crazy costly.
the ZX-25R fills the gap between 300 and 600.... 250cc but faster than the 400 and is an inline 4 with all the nice gimmicks like adjustable suspension and quickshifter
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I love Yamaha r6 😍
How dare you you’re a BUSA BOI
Yammie Noob hey I bought a 2017 CBR500R and rode it for 2.5 hours!! It was super comfortable surprisingly!!!
if you are a true biker.. including mtb/dh /trial.. the riding position on a liter race bike.. aint that bad.. but only if you are physically in order.. ;) a desk job noob..will have some issues. .
i commute daily on my 2019 R6. i have indeed had my jimmies rustled.
"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
PathetIc that you can’t use your own words; you have to take a quote from a movie.
@@vstar7196 pathetic you comment on a troll post 😂 deal with it that yammie is an old dead youtube channel because he mocks his viewers...
@@rickmaninvasion Both of you are equally pathetic in your own ways
Just like how different types of bikes are awesome for different purposes
lmao this is precious
I find after years of riding that their is no perfect motorcycle...so you must have multiple bikes in order to achieve true happiness 😉
Daytona 765R: Sad 3 cylinder noises
N+1 is the key to happiness with motorcycles for sure
what about tracer 900 (sad 3 cylinder whine)
charlie ryan this is very true. Iv got my R6 for the fun, Tracer 900 GT for touring, and my Stryker for just cruising around. The more bikes the happier the soul!
Sounds like a great excuse to buy another bike.
I'm 57, been riding since I was 5, and can't bring myself to ride anything other than a sports bike. Current bike 2019 CBR1000RR.
Beautiful bike
57? Strong back dude.
Eremite man awesome bud! Same here bro. Turned 46 in July and I’ve never owned any other type of bike. Started with a 93 CBR600F2 then went to a 98 GSXR600 then to a 01 R1 then had a kid in 06 and sold it and 3 years ago the wife gave me the green light for a bike and I found myself a mint low mileage 2006 R1 in blue bone stock with only 18k miles on it. Thing is mint. However just Thursday it started making a weird noise that’s either timing chain tensioner or a valve guide or valves need adjustment. I’ll find out Monday.
You guys bring me hope. All I ever hear these days is. Get a naked bike, it’s the only answer.. everything else is uncomfortable and not practical for the road cause it’s to fast and doesn’t have any storage and blah blah blah.
"Don't start on a 600"
Me: just got my permit and now buying a ZX9R "Well... it's not a 600"
You found a nice zx9r? Lucky
@@diamondheat9 friend is selling his '01 with just 5k miles to me for $1,000. Woohoo
Bro everyone starts on a 600 nowadays. This guy just thinks his opinion is GOD and he is honestly ignorant.
He can’t even ride a sport bike because his little “back hurts” XD
Steezy Franklin Man drop the personal insults. It's not cool. Let's not bring back the same comments section from 2012.
Here in England everyone suffers from mr macho man big bollocks syndrome so they all jump on 1000cc bikes as soon as possible and most are still alive ......don't ride like a complete bellend and respect the bikes power you will be good ...just remember you play stupid games you win stupid prizes
Well if you only have ridden sportbikes you dont know how comfy other bikes are. Problem solved :)
TheRzMike or just be short
Basically were I'm at lmao. I rode MX before street so my R6 is comfy af
@@connorrichter5920 hell yeah late reply but I come into the motorcycle world quite a few years ago now but all I ever see is this seat is so uncomfortable that bike is so uncomfortable don’t get it you’ll regret it, you need a naked bike. Coming from dirt bike riding all day long and honestly never once have I thought this is uncomfortable. Now I feel like I’m sitting on a couch when I got on a r1. People are to easily spoilt.
I just bought a 600 and started riding it around 3 days ago and can confirm that dying on a SuperSport is worth it!
Nice bro what did you buy
dead yet?
@@T1k213 he dead.
@@elonmust7470 actually, I now am a proud owner of a street triple and a Piaggio, going for the adventure bike towards the end of the year. Ride safe!
@@T1k213 it was a cbr600 98, already sold it though.
Nope still want one
Get one lol they're amazing. I've got a CBR600RR. Best purchase I've ever made
@@TheMrProboscis I agree, got myself a cbr600rr and a fireblade. Love em both.
Yup. Got a R1 and ZX10R. I take it everywhere. Literally everywhere. Back pain and wrist pain is free. But adrenaline. I WANT MORE ADRENALINE!
Zach you need to get one bro. This guy is irrelevant and he always has some ugly opinions.
Keep in mind... he just stated a GROM is a “one purpose race bike”...
Clearly his bowling ball of a head doesn’t have many true facts. This channel is just contradicting and over opinionated
Commuting on a Gsxr1000r 4-5 days a week at 63yrs old and love love love it, just wish I could get some track days in
I commute (only about 7 miles, but fun miles) on my 17 gsx-r1000r.
You’re the man. I commute on an R1 3-4 days a week and I’m 46. I hope I’m still commuting on my liter bike when I’m your age!! Good shit!!
@@mikespencer7241 I commute on an R1 as many days a week as I can at 31, but I already see that coming to an end. MT10...here I come lol.
Allen Klingsporn blasphemy. Lol. Nah I hear ya. I commute on mine as many days as weather permits as well. However mine just started making some weird noise. It’s at the shop now. It’s either the timing chain tensioner or the valve guide is worn. I hope to god it’s the tensioner. Lol. Way cheaper and easier to fix.
The best motorcycle is the one you DON’T have.
True lol
Most riders over their 20's own a car and a motorcycle. The car can do all the boring stuff. The motorcycle can be a dedicated performance machine where you get in the zone and spend a bit of time in heaven.
This...everything he mentioned is already fixed by having a car.
Car??? Boring, predictable! 57 years young and don’t even have one.
@@onyabikejoe7643 Bless you, Sir!
You can have both. I'm 25 have a Kawasaki z650 as my daily bike, s1000r as my fun bike. A Subaru outback as my daily car and a Subaru sti and e63 as my fun cars. I just don't have a budget to own anything else 😅😅
Riding my R6 on long trips is painful, but when I can open the throttle, the reward overcomes the body pain.
Busas look like dogshit. Started on an r6. Once my core was conditioned for riding, I could ride all day everyday with no issues.
Also helps a ton to be comfortable mentally so you aren’t tensing your legs, arms etc.
keep telling yourself that homie
Your 100% right I daily a sports bike and it's fine once you learn how to relax your muscles and hold your posture with your core
@@SDMacMan I ride a sports-style (yes it's no 600 but the riding position is the exact same) bike and I actually find it more comfortable than an upright bike. On a standard bike, all the shock goes first through the tyres, then suspension, then frame and then your spine. But on a sports bike the shock goes through your legs first before your spine. Not to mention if your muscles get tired you can always go full tuck and not have to support your weight.
I'm 57 y/o, and find it more comfortable to rest on the tank than sit bolt upright on long rides. When I ride for 24 hours or more straight, I spend most of that time tucked. That said, the most important thing to me for enduring long rides is being able to change position, and I do like to be able to sit up a little straighter for a bit from time to time. I also move my feet to the passenger pegs, move forward or back in the saddle for a bit, and stand on the pegs from time to time when my legs become cramped. Your mileage may vary...
Yep. Took my r6 on a 2400 mile round trip to Los Angeles last year. With a big backpack on too;). Loved it!
Don’t disagree and my primary ride is an S1000RR.
On most roads, I rarely crack 10% throttle. Hell, on some technical tracks, 600s are quicker since you can’t take advantage of 200HP even there.
If I’m going for a quick errand, I’ll jump on my RC390 every time. It’s just so much more relaxed and less physical to ride.
But for riding to and in the mountain twisties, bring on the S1000RR!
You are so lucky, I have 0 bikes
I had the opportunity to get the RR. But where I live you're lucky to find any Twisties. I ended up buying the S1000R and haven't regretted it yet. Absolutely love the bike and it's perfect for the street
thentantt that’s very true. And the 1000R isn’t a slouch on track either! But way more streetable.
The discomfort of a supersport is grossly exaggerated. While it is an aggressive position your knees are not touching your elbows, and can be comfortable for hours. I rode 2 horus to a track, did a full track day and rode the 2 hours home. I was not in any way aching. My inner thighs were sore from gripping so hard but that is more the track thing. You'd expect a sore back from what he is saying but not in my experience. They're not single purpose, I commuted and yes in the rain. I loved having my bluetooth headphones in and cruising forever. If you get a litre bike, you'll love the power but you'll miss actually 'riding' a bike. Revving and jamming through the gears and leaning. The bigger bikes are significantly heavier and the side to side is a lot slower and less fun. You'll be in first gear all around town so you don't get the shifting either. If you want the power, you have it but it's a compromise and subjective to what you want in a bike. No idea what the naked comment is about, it's literally nothing but an aestheic, any bike can have a visor or have it removed. Personally I prefer the visor, naked is for cafe racers ;P Do what you feel and ride the bike you enjoy!
I love supersports, but they are far from practical to take on Vacation, next bike will probably be a ninja 1000..
I have the zx10r and I love it man. It is a dream to ride. I honestly don't have any issues with long rides on it... Stays fairly comfortable!
Lode Morren Go with the unofficial Ninja XL
This is why they make trucks and trailers.
You’re comparing sports bikes to other bikes using useless comparatives. A sports bike owner doesn’t buy one for comfort or carrying capacity, we buy it for the speed and the thrill and the comrades you get all being out and having fun together.
And cool factor.
Not sure mate you get up to those hyper-nakeds like the S1000R, Super Duke R, Speed Triple, and Tuono V4 (my current motorcycle) most can keep up with just about anything. Sure my Tuono has a top speed of 170ish so pretty much any new 1000cc will give me a run for the money. Even with being a naked still have the thrill of a 3 second 0-60 and under 11 second 1/4 mile. Still more comfy and can ride much long than most supersports plus you also have the added bonus of more luggage options.
bizkitgto and you get up to like 90 mph and the wind jus third you and throws you about
I want to fly like a bird, or a fighter jet. But I am a human bean and cannot afford a multi million dollar fighter jet. So I ride the hell out of my Zx6r for about 8 hours on the weekends 🌝
Im 56..had back surgery and rotator surgery..
Ive owned 4 harleys and 8 supersports...
I sold all the harleys and currently ride a 2018 Gsxr 750...My back feels great on my rocket..killed me on all my harleys..Smh.
My measure of success in life: owning a 600cc before age 50. Is this too much to ask?
Faustin Gashakamba not at all if you’re in the USA. If you’re in India or indonesia it might be tougher lol
Faustin Gashakamba not at all if you’re in the USA. If you’re in India or indonesia it might be tougher lol
@bizkitgto Judging by his name he might be in a country where large cc bikes are prohibitively expensive or very rare
Rip I’m 18 with an 1100 I have a 250 ninja , cbr 600 and 1100 blackbird xx
bizkitgto I want a zx12 or 14r but a 1100cc blackbird is enough for now lol
I’m must be the exception because I have an r6 and I am 6’1” and my back never hurts. I’ve even had back surgery
I'm 60 and have an 07 Daytona 675 and a 29 year old CBR6 too. I guess I'm addicted. I work out purely so that I'm fit enough to ride them. I don't even want to think that there will be a day when I can't.
I'm 45 and have been riding supersport Moto's since my 20's and still going strong. I imagine when I'm 60 I'll have to get a cruser.
Yaji moto guzzi?
Ehh, just get some clip on risers, an adjustable rearset, and maybe comfy seat.
never say never! My grandpa is almost 70 and is rocking a S 1000 RR
V Max ✊😁
If anything, get a Naked bike or Adventure bike.
This video is like if someone would tell you: 'yeah formula 1 cars are bad engineered because they cant run through deep mud and are all in all bad offraod so they are bad engineered cars and also they are bad because they arent street legal'
Like what the heck.
They arent bad bikes just because they arent as good in conditions other bikes are good in.
You also don't say supercross bikes are bad because you cant lean them over as far as a moto gp bike.
Please Yammie, bring more real facts in your videos and not some shit you just came up with to support your thesis that have no meaning to them.
~J
That's what happens when you try to make 10 videos a week. Quality takes a dive. This is the first YN video I've clicked on in months and I feel like it's the exact same video I last watched. Maybe I need to unsub.
sorry if I'm missing something but... did you just take this video seriously?
600cc bikes are fine to start on depending on how you did in the MSF course. If you were super comfortable and felt like the tasks were easy, a 600cc is okay to start on. But if you kept stalling or had trouble with the tests then that's where you should consider starting small. Speaking from experience.
I started on a 600cc and kept the bike for 16 years. I rode all year around in extreme cold and heat.
Ducati
Storage-my pockets
Suspension-stiff(cuz iam nuts)
Overheats-every redlight
Parts-$$$
Jail- a few times
Near deaths- once in while
Times I thought about selling her-0
Times I thought about smacking the crap outta someone when they say," when you going to grow up and get a harley"-too many to count.
Ride what YOU love,
They look way sexier than nakeds, just my opinion. Id rather get a handlebar riser kit on a sportbike than have a naked. Although that fz-07 sure sounds pretty effin sick with that crossplane....
Robert Lizarraga a handlebar riser kit on a sportbike... hmmmm, I prescribe for you, an Aprilia tuono 🤙🏻
@@ajamer11 if only i could afford one xD
@@reecetaylor9518 i just like the look of fully faired supersports more, that's basically my main reason lol. Its hard to look past it in my opinion, im sure my opinion will change in the future as i havent ridden a naked yet.
@@robertlizarraga9716 as a Ninja 300 owner, I took 2 demo rides and both had the new zx6r(which i love and plan to buy this year) and the z900. Never though of naked bikes but the z900 changed my mind.
Aftermarket clipons, Woodcraft or e-bay specials place your weight forward in a semi-tuck position.
A good compromise in that you don't have nearly as much weight on your wrists, yet gives the bike a better feel for dipping into the twisties.
Face it, with those hard, thin seats you don't want to be on them over 45 minutes anyway
Europe: You need to ride a 125 for a while
America: I bought a BUSA, 'Murica
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No you don’t have to get a cruiser because your over 50. Im 62 years old I own 4 bikes 1995 Zx9r, 2012 zx10r, 2015 H2 And a 2015 gold wing. ( for touring with the misses). I ride the h2 and the zx10 regularly. My first road bike was a Z1a 900. You should always ride what you like And you don’t have change your bike just because you get a little older Ride because you love it.
Add a touring tank bag, and you'll change your tune. No more tired wrists, back or legs. Just put your change of cloths init along with your sandwiches and you'll be very comfy.
At 53 I ride a 2005 R1. All I have ever ridden is super sport bikes, and they are all I will ever ride. I tried different styles but just could not give up the performance.
Met a dude yesterday that had his 2001 gsxr1000 since new with 105k miles like wtffffff
There's a guy on UA-cam that rolled over 300,000km on his cbr f4i. He has videos of it rolling over each time. 99,999km to 0.
Yep I ride with a friend that has a 2006 GSX-R 1000 that has over 250k miles on it, looks little rough(lower fairings all toast at this point, only upper fairing/nose on the bike now) but he can ride the wheels off it.......older guy been riding all his life
The best manscape ads still belong to longbeachgriffy
Manscaped
Refining the gentleman
*Gap tooth intensifies*
Rebuke me if you want but licking that gap looks satisfying af
I'm 50 and have been in the saddle of my 06 CBR1000RR on rides in excess of 10 hours with no pain. Admittedly was a bit sore the next day. But was well worth it.
As to the need for speed on the streets, there are all to often circumstances where that massive acceleration (not to mention the nimbleness) has gotten me out of some scary traffic situations. I don't feel I can ever go back to riding a cruiser. Too boring.
My boy spent $3000 on a 2007 R6. One month of daily riding later, he's asking me about bar risers and lowered pegs. LoL.
I refuse to ride anything but my 1000. I've been on a Vrod and a couple nakeds. Going fast is in my nature. If you're hurting on a superbike, workout your back and practice better posture on the bike and stop leaning on the bars.
Uncomfortable: absolutely, but so was all those bmx bikes I rode till I was 19. I guess I’m just a glutton for punishment. Why super sport?: My uncle had several throughout my youth and I drooled with envy.
If sports bikes are stupid, then stupid is good. The world would be a boring place if everyone road a practical bike. Would there even be motorcycles? Rain hail or shine, my new S1000rr puts a smile on my face every time, even just to ride home after a crap day at work.
Have a 2006 cbr1000rr. ride every day. not comfortable but can't give up my adrenaline rush.
I just bought a 2007 GSXR 600! I accept all the pains (& gains) that comes with it! 🤣
I think you're right on most counts, but missed one option when discussion the spot between 300cc intro bikes and 600cc missiles. The big 4 all make what are often called "introductory sport bikes" right in that spot, or have made them in the past. Suzuki has the GSX650F, Honda the CBR650R (previously the CBR650F), Yamaha had the FZ6R, and Kawasaki has the Ninja 650 (EN-650F). I'd also plop in that category Ducati's SuperSport. Any of those machines will fill that void pretty nicely. Granted they are a tad less race oriented than the 600cc supersports, with conventional handlebars and eased riding positon, but those are features found on most of the 300cc beginner bikes anyway.
Honestly, for the road, I think this category is far and away the most practical. Practical doesn't mean cool, but for 95% of riders I know, who never make it to a track, it's all they need.
I agree 100%. I have an MT-09 and am looking at an FZ6R just to have a more commutable sport bike. Perfect segment of bikes for most people.
I just picked up an FZ6R as my first bike and love it!
@ 62 yo, absolutely love my Duc 1198S. Biggest issue/complaint, pipes under seat bakes the butt and legs if your in traffic. Avoid traffic. Is the sore neck, frozen knee joins, stiff back worth it? Oh yeah. However, it's not my only bike. Looking real hard at adding a Guzzi cruiser to the stable.
Been on my 05 gsxr1k since 05... ridden other bikes. But nothing compares to my sports. Many, many long rides. Ny to va, ny to pa, ny to Delaware, setting up now for a ny to georga.... I love the instant good-bye factor. And even the fastest cars, most likely wont catch up during normal highway operation times.
ZX6R 08, I used it daily for 50000 milles (first two years i had it limited to 25kw)now i have it only for track days.
Then I got a KTM 790 AdvR. It has better ergonomics but I find it clumsy and heavy, not nice for the city (I have it only for off road, maybe i need something smaller, but so far so good) .
And I just ordered a zx10r 21 let's see how it works, I hope the ergonomics dont kill me. 😅😅😅
Yammie: "something about no real middle-ground between 300cc parallel twin and 600cc inline 4"
How do you feel about Kawasaki's new 250cc 4-cylinder?
650 class is this middle ground isn't it?
If u want something between a 300cc parrallel twin and a inline 4 600cc go for a 2 cilinder 650, its perfect for beginners
waste of money ... resell kind of stuff
I’d really argue there are plenty of middle ground sport bikes between a 300 and 600 they make 650s good step up in power from a 300
The US won't get it.
Just discovered the channel researching riding as I just got my first bike (honda shadow 600). Now I've been on a video binge and love the channel.
I shall now join the group as a baby squidlet.
Sorry Yammie Boob, you missed the mark on this one. I am 66 years old and have ridden and owned different styles of motorcycles over the years. Sport bikes have the right position for control when accelerating and cornering. Is that not what a street motorcycle is for? On a sport bike your weight is nicely distributed between feet, seat and hands. A fairing gives some weather protection and keeps the wind from beating you, besides being far more aerodynamic. I started with a naked bike in 1972 (they all were naked back then) and am never going back to eating bugs !
I started on R6. Never had problem with "too much power". Started only having a little bit of dirtbike riding background.
“Trees don’t merge into you” -RCR
You had dirtbkie riding background so you pretty much kind of knew how to ride a motorcycle to begin with...
TravianBoy221 I started on an 05 gsxr600, total noob with no experience and I’ve never had a problem with “too much power” either. But I do come from a background of racing. I’ve raced lots of really fast cars and so I guess the power and speed just felt natural to me lol.
LEC illuforce Are you saying even 3 weeks of dirt bike background would be enough to get a 1000cc Superbike?
Me, who started on R125 and upgraded to Ninja 400 be like:
Also me, whos gonna add one of them 300cc 2-stroke Dirtbikes soon:
And after that - me, whos gonna add an even bigger sportbike, once he may:
Superbikes don’t suck, just Yamahas do...
1:18 “that Busa slap” 😂
What is that flying off?
Travis Mashburn the windscreen
Damn Yammie...I'm still in school for getting my bike license but I still yell "BUSA!" every time I see one on the street.
dude acts like a bookbag is a parachute
Why do super bikes suck? Is it because they are so much faster, handle so much better, are so much more reliable, than a out of date Harley v twin?
What got me strtd on a 1000cc super bike u ask? They're f***ing fun!
My first bike was a 87 ninja 750r and I have been riding super sports exclusively year round and all weather for the last 28 years. It all depends on what obsesses you. My current bike is a 2nd gen Aprilia rsv1000 factory. I love this sh*t !
bought an 05 R6 for riding 4 roads specifically. I ride all year round in a city environment and have a love-hate relationship with my clutch. but even with all of that I still wouldn't change it for the world. with the suspension set super soft its fine on the bumpy roads for an hr or 2 and for the fun commuting on country roads, it's the best purchase I have made. Though the super duke 1290r looks mighty tasty with the new suspension linkage and less wiggle mid-corner.
Says the guy who bought a busa.
I'm 46 and ride a sportbike and feel just fine on the sportbike for about 2 hours.
Solution? Just ride 1 wheel up, you're riding upright. Duh.
But srsly tho.. gonna keep riding supersporks cause i dont have complaints about comfy-ness.
so, been riding sportbikes for 8 years now, had a naked, had a touring, still prefer the riding position of a sportbike, even on longer rides. on the naked and touring i started getting pain in the lower back, leaning a bit more forward seems to reduce that spinal stress i suppose. current daily is an '05 R1 with saddlebags, i keep em on, it's handy and it doesn't feel different to ride, even up to 170kmh (105mph-ish) i couldnt tell the bags were on. anyway i think i'm one of those get old and still ride sportsbikes dudes. dragging knee at age 65, or at least i hope so
If you ride enough, you grow into the bike, in terms of mental and physical comfort. The key is, take some breaks, which is necessary on any bike. My lifehack is standing up in red lights. Sure it's not the linen cloud that is the GS1200, but still :)
Honestly passed my test (UK) last year and got my first bike ever r6. Done a 300mile straight with no stops other than petrol and I was fine the entire time. Neck gets used to wind, wrist and back adjusts after first 2 weeks and it's not like I'm exactly young (29 in June). Oh for context I got the bike 3 weeks ago too, so comfort wise I'm very comfortable and I commute everyday on it (even through storm Dennis and the previous one)
I got a colorful sports bike and half the time I just look at it admiring its beauty and get alot of compliment as well. That folks is why I will always stick will a full fairing motorcycle.
Daily my 954rr. Decent ergos, massive trunk, great power with the weight of a 600. Love it.
After having my ZX14R for a year, I got a 2019 WR450-F. Now i am seriously thinking of selling the ZX14. I finally understand what you have been saying. You can have more fun on a supermoto, or smaller CC BIKE, than a sport bike. (ON THE STREET) and you won’t be doing triple the speed limit in a 4 sec pull.
Thats what i say. You dont have to own a 600/1000 cc Bike to have fun, an enduro/supermoto will make you more happy that those supersports (imo). Everyone has different a opinion on which bike they prefere, but i'm defenitly this guy who's drifting around with his 300ccm 2 stroke sumo :P
Athanatos .. i hear ya. Thinking of turning the WR450 to a supermoto and selling the ZX14 and getting a CRF 250R. It’s amazing how one can evolve after riding a few different bikes, terrain and styles. Not to mention, it is much cheaper to repair, if a repair is needed, after a spill.
@@BigDaveTALKS 100% Agreed, you'll have the time of your life on a supermoto :D Hope you'll get one soon!
Don’t know how long you have been riding but for us older gents & ladies there’s no such thing as a perfect bike because they all have something to offer a rider. As far as Sports Bikes are only for racing , Hmmm I commuted on my GSXR 100K8 all year long for years . My mate is a mechanic and doesn’t have a car he uses his R1 to commute 30 miles each way , every day for at least the last 9 years. It’s down to tyres & riding gear mate.
I just ordered a lawnmower 3.0 with your code. If my sack isn’t as slick as a turbo busa I’m holding you personally accountable.
"Panigale is the way."
The way in to debt
Do you now da wey?
@@187misfitsspade Mehhh... money and value is subjective based on individual preferences and financial circumstances. I paid cash on delivery for my ride FWIW, but I know that many are paying loads in monthly payments too. Motorcycles in general are not investments, they are expensive money pits. We ride them anyway.
@@_Jaded_ true. But I'll be able to ride my CBR a lot longer. Either way... money pits they are
Daniel Mazar amen
Touch on sport touring segment. Is it the best of both worlds in your opinion.?
It's TRUE. I bought a 600 gsxr and within the first month I was thinking to myself " should have gotten a naked" lol
But I have no real regrets
i started riding motorcycles because I loved to race at Summit Point in West Virginia. Riding on a closed asphalt circuit going as fast as your bike will go is straight up addictive. Road racing is the only way to compete. Balls to the wall on machines built to launch you off the starting grid. I can only imagine having a factory built MotoGP machine.
Hop on a gixxer. I am 6'1 and I have done many 3-4 hours rides and every time I got to my destination, I was physically ready to go back. I have sat on the CBR, ZX-6R... Yes, uncomfortable. Gsxr? Lower seating height, less raked position. Super comfy, honestly.
I rode scooters, cruisers, standards, and always wondered what a sports bike would be like. I always hate riding and people are whizzing by me at 70, 80 mph. No fun riding
I went to the shop yesterday and they told me i can’t start on a R3 bc I’m 6’2, 215 lbs is that right? Am i to big for that? I was thinking the CBR 500R cause I’m not trying to kill myself or my back.
Try the CB500. It's the naked version. Or the 650.
I wish there was more sport touring versions of the super sport counterparts. I know there is some and have been but there should be more.
Seriously. I want a sport tourer with like 100hp and id be set...but i can’t find that anywhere :/ things either don’t have the HP (or waaaay too much) or they are some other type of bike (no i don’t want a naked with a windscreen). Ive been looking at the cbr650r though. Potential?
@@Jagknorr VFR800? They're pretty heavy though
@@Jagknorr well the kawasaki 1400 gtr has 154 hp but the looks of that bike aint stiking plus they heavy but its something im considering. the cbr650r would be nice yeah.
@@PhilipBeresford Compared to a kawasaki ninja 1000, I doubt that.
@@blakemax14 Ninja 1000 and VFR800's weigh about the same @ ~235kg. They're both a bit fat. Thats a solid 30kg more compared to a 1000cc supersport like an R1 or CBR1000RR
“Is the joint pain worth it?” YES -2016 R1
Had buddy leave his HD Road King with me to take care of while away for the military. I had to force myself to ride it. I didn't even want to be seen on it but I rode it. Sometimes all day but I always wished I was on my R1. But I did learn hours in the saddle makes ya sore regardless, just different spots on different bike types. (The Goldwing will probably be an exception) BTW bought my 1st at 25 and i'll be 50 in a few months. There is still, nor will there ever be, desire to get a cruiser.
Daily ride: Ninja 650
For trips: FJR1300
Supersport: 3rd or 4th bike for track use, budget allowing...
I find the Ninja 650 to be a well rounded bike for daily use, fast and agile enough to be a lot of fun, while still relatively practical and economical to own and maintain. Ideally, I would own at least 6 bikes, including one or two supersports, but they would not be my first choice for daily use. Were it not for chain maintenance, I would be content to ride the Ninja on long trips as well. I have done 1600+ miles in 27 hours on it, and would do it again, but it's a real pain servicing the chain every 3rd fuel stop on that sort of ride. Still, the little Ninja is as close as I've come to finding my unicorn. If money was not an issue, I might feel differently, but in my current situation, if I had to choose only one bike, it's the Ninja 650 for me. I am fortunate enough to not care one whit about the choices others make or their opinions of my choices. Love your R1? Good for you. Love feeling superior because your bike is bigger, faster, cost more, has more mods, or whatever? Enjoy. I only care about pleasing myself.
What was up with the chain on the Ninja that it required such micromanagement?
@@clayman1980
You obviously never rode 24 hours or more non-stop, including through rain, on a chain driven bike... Your chain will run very hot during long trips at highway speeds, and o-rings tend to fail rather quickly if the chain is run dry. And I hardly consider lubing your chain every 400 miles or so "micromanagement" anyway. I neglected to "micromanage" my chain on my first long trip, and learned my lesson the hard way. It is possible that I might get away with somewhat increased maintenance intervals, but I prefer to err on the side of caution. If there's anything worse than chain maintenance on trips, it's chain failure. This is, of course, my own opinion, based on my own needs, values, priorities, and reasoning. I would not presume to criticize anyone who disagrees.
@@michaellovell2518 Thanks. I thought there was something else about it going on. While you are right that I never rode more than 180 miles in one day, I do lube my chain regularly, i.e. every 500-600 kms. Mind you, I have already had some people tell me I sweat the chain maintenance too much, but it is indeed better to be safe than sorry.
What type of starter bike would you guys recommend for a 6'5 240lb dude?
a tractor. lol...just get a diavel
i want the bike that can give me confidence when cornering and speeding. Only super sport and super bike can give this requirement. Already own naked bike (Fully Naked/z800), change it immediate after use it for 5 month. Also already try touring bike, i feel not secure when speeding near 200km/h. (Multistrada). That bike fast for sure but the ergonomics not focused to aggressive riding.
The speeeeed....
I've u have experienced the acceleration of a 1000cc u will be chasing this feelin for the rest of ur life. Trust me😁
It was definitely eye opening the first time I experienced it. Nothing really compares.
Try a super duke.....stupid fast and comfortable
@@jimjim753 i know that twin is awesome, but not comparable ive ridden the new s1000rr. That's fast. 210hp to the wheel....
@@niklasfabian4075 sd1290 has about 30 ft lbs torque..
Try a 1400 they are insane
Everytime I see that busa windscreen fly off it cracks me up!
I have v2 Panigale as a dedicated track bike. The track is its naturally habitat. It's a torture rack on the street. This 950s is perfect for the street, and i have that too. It also pays homage to the tradition of the Ducati SS with that wonderful engine. It's the gentleman's sport bike for the street, for old 53 year old men like me... We were born into motorcycling before the human sail machines that are ADV bikes emerged ;-)
My experience with motorcycles began in 1979/80. In the apartment my family lived there was a window that looked down on the driveway to a parking lot for the next apartment building! parked on the side of the driveway was a 1977 Yamaha RD 400 two stroke, in silver white color. Wow, that was such a beauty and a crazy rocket for a 17 year old. Due to that mind enlightening experience I started to buy light 2 stroke Yamahas. I raced a 1984 Yamaha RZ 350 for 3 years as a novice, that was so much fun! Now. nearing 57 years old, I still go to track days with either my 1980 TZ125, modified RD250, and a 60th anniversary R6 witch is the same color scheme as my Kenny Roberts RZ350 model from 1984. happy I didn't kill myself in my late teenage years! Different world and different time...
Started on a zx6r with 116rwhp. No regrets. Love every second of it
Yammie, how tall are you? I’m 6’ and my Daytona is surprisingly comfortable on a long ride, more so than other super sports I have ridden, and actually more so than my z900 as well. Something about the seat and the long reach to the bars, I am completely relaxed
Jacob Priest i think he’s 5’10” or so but I know he has a fucked up back thanks to his accident
I don't think I've ever seen a superbike rider on the highway that was cruising with both hands on the bars. They always have that one hand on the hip, trying to relieve their back pain, and switching up the hand on the bars.
Donno. My Ducati 748 still hasn't killed or even threatened my back, and I am 69. I did put in aftermarket risers. Allowing my hands to retain feeling when out on the superslab.
Only bought a 1000cc bike to save my clutch hand from the stresses of overuse in slow traffic.
Only thing better than cornering is making it through a really rough section of dirt, and maybe get a little air. Legit the endorphin rush you get after is like being shot up with morphine.
What do you think about the Yamaha xsr900?
Rode a sport bike since my 20's now 44 & on a GSXR 750. I'm very rarely sore, if you hurt you are riding it wrong imo
Supersport looks, naked bike ergos, sport touring fuel tank, seat, and internal storage. Big displacement 800cc-1200cc DOHC water cooled fuel injected v-twin for usable street power.
The panigale v4 is ze best🥴😆
Maybe im a freak but i actually find my zx6r more comfortable than my 400 and a Harley Fatbob. I have yet to ride other bikes.
Stop selling junk. Your back shouldn't hurt if you know what your doing. Taking long rips on rockets is no problem if you are a hardcore rider. It takes talent to ride it's not about the money. If you really know what your doing it takes more time to learn how to ride a supper sport or even a bike cost more then a car. Time cost money. Tank bags people. Bikes are not a hobby it's a life style.
I'm glad I gave up my R1 for a Speed Triple but man that torque does not mix with cold roads. Lost the back end too many times already.
Not the speed triple's fault. I've commuted for 10 yrs on mine year-round in northern NJ and never had any trouble. Mine didn't have the AI nannyware yet and does exactly what I ask it to do, which I love.
@@bandogbone3265 Mines a '17.
How is the best way to recover a speed wobble ??
Throttle to take weight off the front wheel and it should straighten out.
I had back surgery and actually find the sport bike far more comfortable than the upright seating of a cruiser. May not resonate for all but does work for me. Hell I bought a liter bike and can say theres nothing that pulls those numbers for that price. To get a car to go 180 mph and drive it everyday would cost over 200k for sure and the maintenance schedule would be crazy costly.
the ZX-25R fills the gap between 300 and 600.... 250cc but faster than the 400 and is an inline 4 with all the nice gimmicks like adjustable suspension and quickshifter