this is so real im transmasc and not skinny and i always feel the need to be more feminine because people won’t like me otherwise i feel like and I don’t want to be that way like at all 😭 the infantilizing is so gross too.
Honestly this is so real. I’m pre-T and I’m a trans guy so I completely relate to the pressure of being feminine just to have people like you. It can feel so discouraging sometimes ngl :/
As a trans guy who just happens to be a skinny white twink, I make sure to pay attention to how my OCs (mostly queer ones) are represented, like I have a pan demigirl OC who is chubby and a bi trans guy OC who isn't white. I also have an amab nonbinary OC which is something I think doesn't get talked abt enough! My point is, even though I might fit into the stereotype of most queer people, I make it my job to represent people who don't ^^
As a trans guy whos chubby and mixed (Afro latino), Its been really exhausting with such stereotypes - Its kinda normalized that "Oh, uhm.. You wanna be passing? Try this hair style that only works with straight hair!!" 😭😭 But thanks for making this video and for your kind words
thanks for talking about this!! :] im a chubby, transmasc poc and I often feel excluded or different because I don’t fit the “regular FTM” attributes ://
the stereotype of trans guys always being skinny genuinely made it difficult for me to consider myself a "real" trans guy because it made it so damn difficult to pass. passing as male while not being skinny, especially while pre t, is damn near impossible (for me, at least). i'm now several months on t and i've lost weight, so it's not *that bad*, but there are still so many downsides to not being skinny while ftm.
The thing that annoys me to no end is just how much hate I get for being into stuff that's traditionally masculine and having no desire to hold onto any form of femininity. I get accused all the time of having "internalised misogyny" and "internalised transphobia" just for wanting to fully medically transition and being more into sports and beer or whatever rather than the stereotypical "young teen" kind of interests that you mentioned
@@amazingspiderlad that’s so real though. I like masculine and feminine things but I feel like people tend to like my more masculine traits less. And irl I get called “trying to be different” when I talk about anything I like that’s typically seen as a “boy thing”
im chinese and transmasc with darker skin, tysm for pointing this out because i've been feeling a bit worse over the past few days due to these stereotypes, they make me feel like i don't really fit. they make me feel like some sort of outsider in a way :p
as someone who is transmasc, genderfluid, chubby, and hispanic, the stereotype of the skinny, white trans guy with fluffy hair has made me believe that i should want to look like them (minus the white part lol). i felt excluded from the community because i could never fit the stereotype. it took a while to realize that, in reality, i wanna transition into a bear with a gut who also dresses femme from time to time
as someone who is very largely disconnected from the online transmasc community and doesn't consume much media with transmasc representation, I wasn't explicitly aware that the stereotype for us is 'conventionally attractive skinny androgynous/masculine-presenting teen', but it doesn't surprise me due to systemic biases that impact how we see certain groups. anyway, with the word 'stereotype' having a lot of negative connotations, I honestly had this lingering feeling of defensiveness throughout most of the video, because I happen to fit the stereotype and take pride in being like that, but I realized that this isn't about me. the community, like all the other LGBT+ communities, is incredibly diverse and should not have a stereotype, let alone one that pressures its members to conform to. our identities are equally valid, regardless of appearance, personality, age or interests. I'm glad I decided to watch the video in its entirety and listen to your points. I hope the algorithm recommends it to more people.
I agree very much with the fatphobia and racism. Like I have the privilege of being skinny and white, many people do not have that so as an artist I try to make my characters as diverse as possible! Especially because I love different cultures and languages so I mix and match most of the time (Especially because I for example am German/Romanian! Like actually, im not like these people whose ancestors from 6 generations ago were 2% german or something. my dad is romanian and my mom is german, just felt the need to clarify that 😭) But yeah! Creating diverse characters is so much fun and I do not know why so many people don’t do it when they could ^^ A few examples would be my Idian/romanian vampire OC named Chandresh Luminița! Or my black greek demi-god OC called Eleutherius! I have so much more but currently I am also working on a polish/korean OC who’s name I do not know yet, but she has a bit of lore already. Sorry for oversharing if I did, I’m tired and in a rambly mood lol Great video btw! Keep up the good work!
just leaving my view on this cuz idk why not . im a trans aroace dude called elliot, and also chubby as well . i have pretty bad anxiety and worry a lot abt what other ppl think and even seeing those videos like "ur transmasc ?whats ur name ?and dont say ____" makes me anxious becuase ,obviosuly , elliot is one of the names listed a lot . ik its my problem and i shouldnt let these things get to me but i cant exactly help it .i hate how certain names have been stereotyped because then it creates videos like those and makes me feel a little nervous about my own name . HATEEE how transmascs are "supposed" to be skinny dudes . i dont have good self-esteem and have struggled with eating disorders (thankfully better now ,hoorah) and it always hurts a little bit to see how ppl r expected to be skinny .
As someone who is genderfluid/genderqueer, who is skinny and white, and looks young for my age (I'm an adult), I often feel bad for falling into this stereotype and even enjoying it. I feel like I'm doing a disservice to transmasc people who present more hypermasculine just by existing sometimes. I completely agree that we need more representation of diverse people, especially for people like me who are multi gender (from what I've seen online there are some stereotypes of genderfluid people that rub me the wrong way too). And yeah, the stereotype gets to me. I feel like if I'm not feminine enough or twinky enough, no one will love me. My anxiety around it has gotten so bad I've been putting off going on T, even though I really want to. I'm working on accepting that I may gain weight and be hairier than I want. Of course there is NOTHING wrong with that, I just worry I'll be hated, or that I'll look unattractive to myself. So yeah, weirdly the stereotype hurts people who fit it, as well as those who don't.
I think another reason stereotypes like these are harmful is because they don’t only impact transmasculine people (not to say that their impact on transmasculine people is less important in isolation, because it isn’t in any way). This is kind of speculative since it’s only something I’ve seen a few times, and the instance which it happened to me may have been due to miscommunication, but I’m a non-binary person who fits pretty well into the transmasc stereotype (white, skinny, etc.), and I had a friend who just did not seem to understand that I was in fact non-binary, not a trans man or masculine-aligned in any way outside of my expression. While I don’t blame them since it’s possible that I had actually communicated my gender to them incorrectly, I do think it goes to show that things like this not only have the capacity to dictate how individuals using a label feel they can or should be presenting, but may also result in circumstances where individuals feel pressured to use a label that doesn’t align with them because of how they present. Even if this wasn’t the case though, these stereotypes are still stupid and harmful to trans men. A part of me wonders if it may stem from misogyny, as the perceived individuality of women is often limited in society, and maybe this extends to trans men due to subconscious (or conscious) transphobia which causes people to believe they are still women despite how they identify
I’m non binary and this has happened to me as well! So many people have just assumed I’m transmasculine and have even called me by a more masculine name because of this stereotype. And unfortunately, a lot of them don’t understand that calling me “he” is still misgendering me.
I'm an older, chubby, pre-op Trans masc leaning nonbinary person. I always feel like I'll never pass because as one person so "nicely" put it, I'm too old and fat to see many changes 😢
this has made me a lot more aware of the races of my characters- i often create my characters to be like me so most of my characters are chubby white guys with my body type and desired appearance. now you’ve pointed it out i want to change that! my cis characters definitely have more of a range of characteristics but i didn’t even notice the trend so thanks for bringing awareness to this
I fit in the stereotype with some things but mostly don’t. It’s like I’m borderlining it at times lol. I’m a femboy transmasc person and usually hide my face with a mask so people think I’m attractive despite hiding it lol but then I fit outside of it because I’m more of a cub (chubby) then a twink, on the aroacespec and not even attracted to men despite having that stereotype pushed onto me, I’m mixed POC, curly 3b/c and not the wavy curly hair that yt boys have, disabled, older, and I have scarring on my body that can be seen as well. Sometimes I dress masc and I only dress fem when on certain accounts and I ain’t shaving unless I have to take pics for it. The stereotypes are hurtful and annoying because then I have people in my comments and DMs pointing out things about my body and features in comparison to the skinny yt twinks nd it’s almost like they don’t want you in that community unless you fit the mold that they want you to fit. It’s mad weird… (And I’m also trying to bulk up and will continue to do so when on T so I won’t fit the “twink” category even further after that 😂)
Honestly, thank you so much for speaking up about this stuff. I'm a bigger, more heavyset trans bloke who fits none of the typical stereotypes, outside of the fact that I am white. I'm a 6'3, big boned chubby guy who is not really conventionally attractive. I very occasionally wear skirts or dresses, not to appear fem but because I like them and they are comfortable/convenient, or as part of a costume for my LARP group (I wear pants underneath the skirt, too.) I always feel incredibly anxious about talking about my experiences online, or showing photos of myself, because people really are oddly weird about it. It's like... ouargh.... guys.....
Bro! I feel that, too! (Gonna say for context, I'm in my early 30s) As of recently I have seen some transmasq folks in the Pokemon Yumeshipping community and it's pretty cool to see! More representation there I've seen! It is saddening that there isn't more representation. I'm a white chubby fella myself - even tho I do portray my sona as skinnier (as I wish to lose weight to be healthier) - and I HAVE noticed the fatphobia.....plus in the past when I was researching FTM for the first time almost 10+ years ago, I mostly saw skinny flat chested FTMs and it made me feel excluded. I don't look anything like my persona -at least not anymore due to brain surgery - but I strive to try and lose weight, try to build muscle so that I am healthier in the longrun, ect. My brain was like "Ok where are the chubbier and bigger chested FTM folks I can relate to and talk to?" I know an FTM in high school that started transition 5 years ago and they were pudgy like me. Last I saw them, they're doing great and looking great! I'm happy to see him thriving! But I'm making the point that I have seen it before but it's not too common..... Edit: Also yeah I have noticed the infantilization of transmen, too......especially the autistic transmen like myself. I fucking HATE that shit!
hi dude for your future videos i recommend using the phone's mic instead of the computer's (if that's not what you're doing) nd also having a script whilst editing off parts that go off it ,, you got the spirit i think
I am very much a stereotypical trans masc but yeah the stereotypes aren’t nice tbh I have a very punk earthy style and brown fluffy hair I also do like girly things but like that’s not my entire personality lol
I am white and skinny and it makes me so uncomfortable when people stereotype trans men as twinks because I don't even want to be one. Fitting a stereotype is better than not when the stereotype is positive, yes, it'll help you avoid hate speech and such, but it still feels ass because people dismiss those unique parts of you and make assumptions all over the place. Such as people stereotyping Asian people as getting good grades and therefore Asian people getting less recognition for their hard work than white people when they do get good grades, because "of course they got good grades." In my case I'm not saying that being skinny is something I worked that hard for or am actually proud of (its more like I don't eat enough), but it just kind of disgusts me to think that people assume I'm a submissive anime boy of their dreams just because I look this way. If I were a cis man I would just get to be y'know, stickbug, professorly looking, serious. my cold, reserved, not at all uwu soft boy self. you touch me without my permission and I eat you alive. the closest I get to cute is boisterous. I really am not the type for headpats and I wish people wouldn't assume. people wouldn't immediately attach this sexual element to it where they think I'm cute. I'm just a man. Trans men are men. People never see that. people never get it. trans men are not a separate category from cis men in terms of their actual manhood, and that's what makes me the most uncomfortable about these stereotypes coming from non-transmasc people: that theyre treating "trans man" as this special form of manhood that plays by its own rules and has totally different stereotypes to cis manhood, because trans men are just *different* like that. y'know, not really *like* cis men. even making generalizations like "wow trans men make such soft pleasant music" is just like excuse me? because I make music and my music isn't like that. (this is a real conversation I had recently. and to be clear I don't mind *that* much I get that it was trying to be a compliment but it rubbed me the wrong way.) I don't know why people are actually taking generalizations about trans men seriously. trans men are a whole demographic of people. we're not a social club, we're a *demographic*. just like other demographics like Black people and women. you don't have to have similar interests, experiences, or anything to be that demographic. being a trans man is just a fact, its not a choice or an interest or an aesthetic. why would you assume the way *all of us* approach something, whether that be relationships or music or fashion or self image, be the same?? and its always kind of feminine-coded too. just like sharkbitez I wanna specify that I'm not bashing on trans men who love headpats and make soft music and like being cute or submissive. thats great! cute boys are cute! live your best life! we should just have the freedom to fulfill any individual part of this stereotype without people assuming all the others go along with it. without people typecasting us. and another reiteration, I'm not saying being a white skinny trans guy is worse than the constant rejection and misunderstanding you get from intersectionality with other bigotries people have on top of transphobia, like racism, fatphobia, lookism. my heart goes out to y'all and I know I don't fully understand it. I just wanted to point out how people stereotyping trans men isn't an issue that concerns only some trans guys who are directly rejected by it: we should all have the freedom to write how people perceive us from a blank slate and be accepted on our own terms. trans men need solidarity and to consider how internalizing the stereotypes and leaving our trans brothers behind harms us, too. being trans doesn't mean you have to be anything. peace and love
I am a teenage trans guy who happens to be a skinny white twink- not sure about the twink part, and I would definetly say I fit the stereotype. I 100% agree with what you're saying. I wouldn't consider myself conventionally attractive, but I'm very very lucky in that I pass 75% of the time and am lucky enough to have minimal physical feminine features. I wish those stereotypes weren't there. Especially because I've met (and want to meet more) many trans guys my age who don't fit that stereotype. One of my best friends is (ftm) literally a cowboy. Not sure what I'm yapping about, but great video. I love it. You're very well spoken and cool :)
As a trans guy myself, I don't have a ton of trans OCs, but when I do I try to not have any sterotypes in their designs or personalities. That being said, it was hard not to make OCs of mine fit these roles back then, specifcally because the sterotype of trans men being pretty twinks was especially popular back in 2020-2021. While some people (including myself) fit some of these ideas, that absoloutley does not mean EVERY TRANS GUY fits it. I've met POC trans guys and trans guys that don't listen to Tally Hall, Lemon Demon, etc and ones that aren't named Elliot or something like that. Its important to know that for every sterotype, at least one person will fit in the mold. But that doesn't mean it defines the entire thing you're sterotyping.
I watched the last one and these types of videos make me hyper concious of the characters I have in my story. I'm planning on making a tv show with a non binary, transmasc and autistic main character that goes to this world with no humans, they're all humanoid descendants of fairies or elves (or whatever I confused myself a while back). The story is about escapism and none of the characters besides the main character and the villain have a preexisting skin color. Diversity in body type has been very important to me from day one, but I always worry that the characters are "white coded." Most of the characters have other colored skin that has biolumenescant sploches. I should stop typing now before I give you an essay about the characters.
Alright i may not be the best person to talk about it since i am a white t guy with fast metabolism, I am pretty attractive? (My mom tells me i am at least 😼)I pass pretty well (i can modify my voice good but its hard to control, im 175 cm which is decently tall i think and i have flat chest), i just want to add my experience out there. I fucking hate the skinny twink stereotype, i am "skinny" in a sense that its reallt hard for me gain weight even tho I'd like to, but i am pretty muscular. T guys comes in all shapes ones are taller ones are shorter ones are chubby others are skinny otherd are muscular and i hate when people have this weird mental image of a specific twink ahh trans guy that is probably also gay or at least bi, speaking of which i would really like to see more straight trans men representation if anyone knows any please tell me Also sorry for my bad English i am NOT Anglo-Saxon 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Honestly... i always saw thicker ftm guys as more masculine. I kinda feel ashamed for being skinny (not to sound pitiful) because of how usually in the cis men field being not muscle bro gym rats. What ive learned from both of the gender battles, being skinny is being very "woman" like. Twink feels so demeaning as trying to be a man and already get treated like a petite woman before. BY THE WAY this isnt a hate comment i just love discussing and hearing from other trans folks. Honestly being trans is just like being a cis person. All cis people come in different sizes, backgrounds, etc and we are more than one stereotype! There shouldnt be stereotypes to begin with but sadly people want to fit peoplethat are other than them into a box
yeah i’m deaf and i always rely on close captioning so i can understand what’s going on but unfortunately in this video, the auto generated really blend in the background which i can’t see and i can’t understand what the person is talking about. 😢
Thanks for pointing out the fatphobia and racism, I’m a chubby transmasc and I often feel excluded because of my body type.
I hope that you are well. You are beautiful.
I'm in the same boat as you, unfortunately
this is so real im transmasc and not skinny and i always feel the need to be more feminine because people won’t like me otherwise i feel like and I don’t want to be that way like at all 😭 the infantilizing is so gross too.
Honestly this is so real. I’m pre-T and I’m a trans guy so I completely relate to the pressure of being feminine just to have people like you. It can feel so discouraging sometimes ngl :/
As a trans guy who just happens to be a skinny white twink, I make sure to pay attention to how my OCs (mostly queer ones) are represented, like I have a pan demigirl OC who is chubby and a bi trans guy OC who isn't white. I also have an amab nonbinary OC which is something I think doesn't get talked abt enough! My point is, even though I might fit into the stereotype of most queer people, I make it my job to represent people who don't ^^
@@bread8439 Yeah diverse representation is always good! I also made an AMAB non binary oc cuz I swear I never see them
exactly!! im rly skinny n with the stereotypical hourglass body type n a straight trans guy but that doesn't mean everyone is
As a trans guy whos chubby and mixed (Afro latino), Its been really exhausting with such stereotypes - Its kinda normalized that "Oh, uhm.. You wanna be passing? Try this hair style that only works with straight hair!!" 😭😭
But thanks for making this video and for your kind words
thanks for talking about this!! :]
im a chubby, transmasc poc and I often feel excluded or different because I don’t fit the “regular FTM” attributes ://
the stereotype of trans guys always being skinny genuinely made it difficult for me to consider myself a "real" trans guy because it made it so damn difficult to pass. passing as male while not being skinny, especially while pre t, is damn near impossible (for me, at least). i'm now several months on t and i've lost weight, so it's not *that bad*, but there are still so many downsides to not being skinny while ftm.
TELL ME ABOUT IT!!!
The thing that annoys me to no end is just how much hate I get for being into stuff that's traditionally masculine and having no desire to hold onto any form of femininity. I get accused all the time of having "internalised misogyny" and "internalised transphobia" just for wanting to fully medically transition and being more into sports and beer or whatever rather than the stereotypical "young teen" kind of interests that you mentioned
@@amazingspiderlad that’s so real though. I like masculine and feminine things but I feel like people tend to like my more masculine traits less. And irl I get called “trying to be different” when I talk about anything I like that’s typically seen as a “boy thing”
im chinese and transmasc with darker skin, tysm for pointing this out because i've been feeling a bit worse over the past few days due to these stereotypes, they make me feel like i don't really fit. they make me feel like some sort of outsider in a way :p
as someone who is transmasc, genderfluid, chubby, and hispanic, the stereotype of the skinny, white trans guy with fluffy hair has made me believe that i should want to look like them (minus the white part lol). i felt excluded from the community because i could never fit the stereotype. it took a while to realize that, in reality, i wanna transition into a bear with a gut who also dresses femme from time to time
Honestly that's a real awesome goal lmao good luck on your transition, my guy :D
I HOPE U MEET UR GOAL SIB! ! the person who YOU want to be and show the world is brilliant
Great chubby transmasc representation in Dead End Paranormal Park. Sadly I don't know any poc transmasc characters in tv but let me know if you do!
Safe ship harbored pfp???
as someone who is very largely disconnected from the online transmasc community and doesn't consume much media with transmasc representation, I wasn't explicitly aware that the stereotype for us is 'conventionally attractive skinny androgynous/masculine-presenting teen', but it doesn't surprise me due to systemic biases that impact how we see certain groups. anyway, with the word 'stereotype' having a lot of negative connotations, I honestly had this lingering feeling of defensiveness throughout most of the video, because I happen to fit the stereotype and take pride in being like that, but I realized that this isn't about me. the community, like all the other LGBT+ communities, is incredibly diverse and should not have a stereotype, let alone one that pressures its members to conform to. our identities are equally valid, regardless of appearance, personality, age or interests.
I'm glad I decided to watch the video in its entirety and listen to your points. I hope the algorithm recommends it to more people.
I agree very much with the fatphobia and racism.
Like I have the privilege of being skinny and white, many people do not have that so as an artist I try to make my characters as diverse as possible!
Especially because I love different cultures and languages so I mix and match most of the time (Especially because I for example am German/Romanian! Like actually, im not like these people whose ancestors from 6 generations ago were 2% german or something. my dad is romanian and my mom is german, just felt the need to clarify that 😭)
But yeah! Creating diverse characters is so much fun and I do not know why so many people don’t do it when they could ^^
A few examples would be my Idian/romanian vampire OC named Chandresh Luminița! Or my black greek demi-god OC called Eleutherius!
I have so much more but currently I am also working on a polish/korean OC who’s name I do not know yet, but she has a bit of lore already.
Sorry for oversharing if I did, I’m tired and in a rambly mood lol
Great video btw! Keep up the good work!
just leaving my view on this cuz idk why not .
im a trans aroace dude called elliot, and also chubby as well . i have pretty bad anxiety and worry a lot abt what other ppl think and even seeing those videos like "ur transmasc ?whats ur name ?and dont say ____" makes me anxious becuase ,obviosuly , elliot is one of the names listed a lot . ik its my problem and i shouldnt let these things get to me but i cant exactly help it .i hate how certain names have been stereotyped because then it creates videos like those and makes me feel a little nervous about my own name .
HATEEE how transmascs are "supposed" to be skinny dudes . i dont have good self-esteem and have struggled with eating disorders (thankfully better now ,hoorah) and it always hurts a little bit to see how ppl r expected to be skinny .
As someone who is genderfluid/genderqueer, who is skinny and white, and looks young for my age (I'm an adult), I often feel bad for falling into this stereotype and even enjoying it. I feel like I'm doing a disservice to transmasc people who present more hypermasculine just by existing sometimes. I completely agree that we need more representation of diverse people, especially for people like me who are multi gender (from what I've seen online there are some stereotypes of genderfluid people that rub me the wrong way too). And yeah, the stereotype gets to me. I feel like if I'm not feminine enough or twinky enough, no one will love me. My anxiety around it has gotten so bad I've been putting off going on T, even though I really want to. I'm working on accepting that I may gain weight and be hairier than I want. Of course there is NOTHING wrong with that, I just worry I'll be hated, or that I'll look unattractive to myself. So yeah, weirdly the stereotype hurts people who fit it, as well as those who don't.
I think another reason stereotypes like these are harmful is because they don’t only impact transmasculine people (not to say that their impact on transmasculine people is less important in isolation, because it isn’t in any way). This is kind of speculative since it’s only something I’ve seen a few times, and the instance which it happened to me may have been due to miscommunication, but I’m a non-binary person who fits pretty well into the transmasc stereotype (white, skinny, etc.), and I had a friend who just did not seem to understand that I was in fact non-binary, not a trans man or masculine-aligned in any way outside of my expression. While I don’t blame them since it’s possible that I had actually communicated my gender to them incorrectly, I do think it goes to show that things like this not only have the capacity to dictate how individuals using a label feel they can or should be presenting, but may also result in circumstances where individuals feel pressured to use a label that doesn’t align with them because of how they present. Even if this wasn’t the case though, these stereotypes are still stupid and harmful to trans men. A part of me wonders if it may stem from misogyny, as the perceived individuality of women is often limited in society, and maybe this extends to trans men due to subconscious (or conscious) transphobia which causes people to believe they are still women despite how they identify
I’m non binary and this has happened to me as well! So many people have just assumed I’m transmasculine and have even called me by a more masculine name because of this stereotype. And unfortunately, a lot of them don’t understand that calling me “he” is still misgendering me.
I'm an older, chubby, pre-op Trans masc leaning nonbinary person. I always feel like I'll never pass because as one person so "nicely" put it, I'm too old and fat to see many changes 😢
As a afab genderfluid who's mixed the stereotypes low-key got me insecure of my race 😭🙏
this has made me a lot more aware of the races of my characters- i often create my characters to be like me so most of my characters are chubby white guys with my body type and desired appearance. now you’ve pointed it out i want to change that! my cis characters definitely have more of a range of characteristics but i didn’t even notice the trend so thanks for bringing awareness to this
I fit in the stereotype with some things but mostly don’t. It’s like I’m borderlining it at times lol.
I’m a femboy transmasc person and usually hide my face with a mask so people think I’m attractive despite hiding it lol but then I fit outside of it because I’m more of a cub (chubby) then a twink, on the aroacespec and not even attracted to men despite having that stereotype pushed onto me, I’m mixed POC, curly 3b/c and not the wavy curly hair that yt boys have, disabled, older, and I have scarring on my body that can be seen as well. Sometimes I dress masc and I only dress fem when on certain accounts and I ain’t shaving unless I have to take pics for it.
The stereotypes are hurtful and annoying because then I have people in my comments and DMs pointing out things about my body and features in comparison to the skinny yt twinks nd it’s almost like they don’t want you in that community unless you fit the mold that they want you to fit. It’s mad weird…
(And I’m also trying to bulk up and will continue to do so when on T so I won’t fit the “twink” category even further after that 😂)
Me seeing my name in the thumbnail 👁👄👁 (I DIDN'T KNOE FINN WAS A BASIC NAME I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS COOL😭)
Honestly, thank you so much for speaking up about this stuff. I'm a bigger, more heavyset trans bloke who fits none of the typical stereotypes, outside of the fact that I am white. I'm a 6'3, big boned chubby guy who is not really conventionally attractive. I very occasionally wear skirts or dresses, not to appear fem but because I like them and they are comfortable/convenient, or as part of a costume for my LARP group (I wear pants underneath the skirt, too.)
I always feel incredibly anxious about talking about my experiences online, or showing photos of myself, because people really are oddly weird about it. It's like... ouargh.... guys.....
Bro! I feel that, too! (Gonna say for context, I'm in my early 30s)
As of recently I have seen some transmasq folks in the Pokemon Yumeshipping community and it's pretty cool to see! More representation there I've seen!
It is saddening that there isn't more representation. I'm a white chubby fella myself - even tho I do portray my sona as skinnier (as I wish to lose weight to be healthier) - and I HAVE noticed the fatphobia.....plus in the past when I was researching FTM for the first time almost 10+ years ago, I mostly saw skinny flat chested FTMs and it made me feel excluded. I don't look anything like my persona -at least not anymore due to brain surgery - but I strive to try and lose weight, try to build muscle so that I am healthier in the longrun, ect.
My brain was like "Ok where are the chubbier and bigger chested FTM folks I can relate to and talk to?" I know an FTM in high school that started transition 5 years ago and they were pudgy like me. Last I saw them, they're doing great and looking great! I'm happy to see him thriving! But I'm making the point that I have seen it before but it's not too common.....
Edit: Also yeah I have noticed the infantilization of transmen, too......especially the autistic transmen like myself. I fucking HATE that shit!
Yo I'm literally a chubbier trans guy, thank you so much for saying this, it helps me feel seen
hi dude for your future videos i recommend using the phone's mic instead of the computer's (if that's not what you're doing) nd also having a script whilst editing off parts that go off it ,, you got the spirit i think
thank you so much for this! as a chubby trans guy, i’ve never really felt valid nor has my transition been taken seriously :(
Thank you for making this. I walked into a few of these with a character I'm writing, so I'll start thinking of ways to revise him.
I am very much a stereotypical trans masc but yeah the stereotypes aren’t nice tbh I have a very punk earthy style and brown fluffy hair I also do like girly things but like that’s not my entire personality lol
I am white and skinny and it makes me so uncomfortable when people stereotype trans men as twinks because I don't even want to be one. Fitting a stereotype is better than not when the stereotype is positive, yes, it'll help you avoid hate speech and such, but it still feels ass because people dismiss those unique parts of you and make assumptions all over the place. Such as people stereotyping Asian people as getting good grades and therefore Asian people getting less recognition for their hard work than white people when they do get good grades, because "of course they got good grades." In my case I'm not saying that being skinny is something I worked that hard for or am actually proud of (its more like I don't eat enough), but it just kind of disgusts me to think that people assume I'm a submissive anime boy of their dreams just because I look this way. If I were a cis man I would just get to be y'know, stickbug, professorly looking, serious. my cold, reserved, not at all uwu soft boy self. you touch me without my permission and I eat you alive. the closest I get to cute is boisterous. I really am not the type for headpats and I wish people wouldn't assume. people wouldn't immediately attach this sexual element to it where they think I'm cute. I'm just a man. Trans men are men. People never see that. people never get it. trans men are not a separate category from cis men in terms of their actual manhood, and that's what makes me the most uncomfortable about these stereotypes coming from non-transmasc people: that theyre treating "trans man" as this special form of manhood that plays by its own rules and has totally different stereotypes to cis manhood, because trans men are just *different* like that. y'know, not really *like* cis men. even making generalizations like "wow trans men make such soft pleasant music" is just like excuse me? because I make music and my music isn't like that. (this is a real conversation I had recently. and to be clear I don't mind *that* much I get that it was trying to be a compliment but it rubbed me the wrong way.) I don't know why people are actually taking generalizations about trans men seriously. trans men are a whole demographic of people. we're not a social club, we're a *demographic*. just like other demographics like Black people and women. you don't have to have similar interests, experiences, or anything to be that demographic. being a trans man is just a fact, its not a choice or an interest or an aesthetic. why would you assume the way *all of us* approach something, whether that be relationships or music or fashion or self image, be the same?? and its always kind of feminine-coded too. just like sharkbitez I wanna specify that I'm not bashing on trans men who love headpats and make soft music and like being cute or submissive. thats great! cute boys are cute! live your best life! we should just have the freedom to fulfill any individual part of this stereotype without people assuming all the others go along with it. without people typecasting us. and another reiteration, I'm not saying being a white skinny trans guy is worse than the constant rejection and misunderstanding you get from intersectionality with other bigotries people have on top of transphobia, like racism, fatphobia, lookism. my heart goes out to y'all and I know I don't fully understand it. I just wanted to point out how people stereotyping trans men isn't an issue that concerns only some trans guys who are directly rejected by it: we should all have the freedom to write how people perceive us from a blank slate and be accepted on our own terms. trans men need solidarity and to consider how internalizing the stereotypes and leaving our trans brothers behind harms us, too. being trans doesn't mean you have to be anything. peace and love
I am a teenage trans guy who happens to be a skinny white twink- not sure about the twink part, and I would definetly say I fit the stereotype. I 100% agree with what you're saying. I wouldn't consider myself conventionally attractive, but I'm very very lucky in that I pass 75% of the time and am lucky enough to have minimal physical feminine features. I wish those stereotypes weren't there. Especially because I've met (and want to meet more) many trans guys my age who don't fit that stereotype. One of my best friends is (ftm) literally a cowboy. Not sure what I'm yapping about, but great video. I love it. You're very well spoken and cool :)
As a trans guy myself, I don't have a ton of trans OCs, but when I do I try to not have any sterotypes in their designs or personalities. That being said, it was hard not to make OCs of mine fit these roles back then, specifcally because the sterotype of trans men being pretty twinks was especially popular back in 2020-2021. While some people (including myself) fit some of these ideas, that absoloutley does not mean EVERY TRANS GUY fits it. I've met POC trans guys and trans guys that don't listen to Tally Hall, Lemon Demon, etc and ones that aren't named Elliot or something like that. Its important to know that for every sterotype, at least one person will fit in the mold. But that doesn't mean it defines the entire thing you're sterotyping.
I watched the last one and these types of videos make me hyper concious of the characters I have in my story. I'm planning on making a tv show with a non binary, transmasc and autistic main character that goes to this world with no humans, they're all humanoid descendants of fairies or elves (or whatever I confused myself a while back). The story is about escapism and none of the characters besides the main character and the villain have a preexisting skin color. Diversity in body type has been very important to me from day one, but I always worry that the characters are "white coded." Most of the characters have other colored skin that has biolumenescant sploches. I should stop typing now before I give you an essay about the characters.
Alright i may not be the best person to talk about it since i am a white t guy with fast metabolism, I am pretty attractive? (My mom tells me i am at least 😼)I pass pretty well (i can modify my voice good but its hard to control, im 175 cm which is decently tall i think and i have flat chest), i just want to add my experience out there. I fucking hate the skinny twink stereotype, i am "skinny" in a sense that its reallt hard for me gain weight even tho I'd like to, but i am pretty muscular. T guys comes in all shapes ones are taller ones are shorter ones are chubby others are skinny otherd are muscular and i hate when people have this weird mental image of a specific twink ahh trans guy that is probably also gay or at least bi, speaking of which i would really like to see more straight trans men representation if anyone knows any please tell me
Also sorry for my bad English i am NOT Anglo-Saxon 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Honestly... i always saw thicker ftm guys as more masculine. I kinda feel ashamed for being skinny (not to sound pitiful) because of how usually in the cis men field being not muscle bro gym rats. What ive learned from both of the gender battles, being skinny is being very "woman" like. Twink feels so demeaning as trying to be a man and already get treated like a petite woman before.
BY THE WAY this isnt a hate comment i just love discussing and hearing from other trans folks.
Honestly being trans is just like being a cis person. All cis people come in different sizes, backgrounds, etc and we are more than one stereotype! There shouldnt be stereotypes to begin with but sadly people want to fit peoplethat are other than them into a box
how do yall feel about transfem stereotypes
i'm transfem and people are so weird with their stereotypes, always saying "it's a trap" jokes etc etc
I’m not a transgender but I’ve met 4 trans guys and they where all skinny either fluffy hair or straight hair people only 2 where twinks ig so yeah
audio is sooo bad bro put subtitles
dont be rude abt it😭
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bro put on auto generated, they're RIGHT THERE 😭
yeah i’m deaf and i always rely on close captioning so i can understand what’s going on but unfortunately in this video, the auto generated really blend in the background which i can’t see and i can’t understand what the person is talking about. 😢
Hey I find this interesting. Want to be friends?