Sword Expert Reacts To Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order

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  • Опубліковано 24 кві 2023
  • Watch a sword expert react to Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order! In anticipation for Star Wars Jedi: Survivor we got our sword expert to take a look at the Star Wars Fallen Order lightsaber combat. Weapons expert Matt Easton critiques and offers insight into the fighting abilities of Cal Kestis and gives some suggestions for what he'd like to see in the sequel. Check out this Star Wars Fallen Order reaction from a weapons expert to see how realistic the Fallen Order fights really are.
    Matt Easton is a Historical European Martial Artist, Antique Arms Dealer, and owner of the fencing club @scholagladiatoria
    #IGN #Gaming #StarWars
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  • @NarutoOnDope
    @NarutoOnDope Рік тому +2377

    Vader uses one handed style when he doesn't take an opponent seriously. He basically handicaps himself to be less bored

    • @TheAdventGamer
      @TheAdventGamer Рік тому +209

      Well that and it's actually incredibly difficult for him to get a two-handed stance with how his armor is designed. Basically he uses a one-handed style he invented for ease of use.

    • @keshawnjenkins7051
      @keshawnjenkins7051 Рік тому +68

      @@TheAdventGamer he’s also the chosen one and is massively stronger than everyone. Who’s is his rival.

    • @kanekikingstorm2113
      @kanekikingstorm2113 Рік тому +112

      He can do two handed stances fairly easy. It’s just that he can’t raise his arms beyond a certain point any more due to the shoulder pieces being so top heavy. When he goes into a two handed grip, it’s mainly when he goes onto the defensive. Elbows locked in close, and minimal wrist movement to guide his lightsaber to deflect and defend. He essentially becomes an unmovable rock.

    • @joshuarollerson7132
      @joshuarollerson7132 Рік тому +5

      ​@@keshawnjenkins7051 luke is the actual chosen one isn't he

    • @TheAdventGamer
      @TheAdventGamer Рік тому +2

      @@kanekikingstorm2113 Ah, right. Sorry.

  • @Nattfare
    @Nattfare Рік тому +1178

    Should also keep in mind that Cal's first encounter with Second Sister is the first time ever where he fights someone else who has a lightsaber. He has also spent the last five years in hiding without anyone to train with to use either the force or his lightsaber.

    • @HTphyzycs
      @HTphyzycs Рік тому +88

      In addition, the commentary by the expert on this specific scene glosses over the fact the night sister recognizes the stance because it's the same stance seen by the many jedi she killed prior. Seems like a silly criticism.

    • @obiwankenobi9439
      @obiwankenobi9439 Рік тому +125

      The criticism isnt that the stance is recognized. Its that it isnt a genuine stance.

    • @8minato
      @8minato Рік тому +8

      The animation in this game and the sequal are just bad 🤣

    • @macca937
      @macca937 Рік тому +24

      @@HTphyzycs Regardless of whether or not the Sister recognizes the stance makes no difference, because even in the Star Wars Universe, a stance like this would be so impractical.

    • @macca937
      @macca937 Рік тому +7

      But the Second Sister recognizes it, meaning it's an official stance from the Jedi Order. The criticism is that it is such an impractical stance to use for a lightsaber.

  • @thedutchwolf97
    @thedutchwolf97 Рік тому +758

    A fun example of lightsabers in fact NOT sticking to each other is the rather short duel between Obi-Wan and Count Dooku in Episode 2. They're in a sword bind, but then Dooku winds his blade and cuts Obi-Wan's arm. It's really one of the only times they showed how that *could* be done, shame it wasn't used more.

    • @jonasbarka
      @jonasbarka Рік тому +90

      Not impossible that it was a suggestion from Lee himself, as he was a skilled fencer.

    • @arnav9192
      @arnav9192 Рік тому +18

      in addition to jonas, the way he holds the saber and moves, it kinda resembles a fencers movement too

    • @jessethehappyguy
      @jessethehappyguy Рік тому +1

      Kinda different binds tho

    • @funnature8679
      @funnature8679 Рік тому +4

      The movie of episode one uses metal cylinder, 2 and 3 the actors uses plastic for the blade for more flexibility.
      You can see what materials used for the actorsfor behind the scenes footage or bloopers.

    • @vincenthernandez2242
      @vincenthernandez2242 Рік тому +19

      Makes sense that dooku would be one of the few characters who breaks a bind like that because he was supposed to be a master lightsaber duelist whereas most other Jedi at the time didn't have much experience fighting another lightsaber wielder

  • @SWTobito0702
    @SWTobito0702 Рік тому +1276

    It should be said that in Star Wars there are in-universe fighting stances, largely separated from real life sword stances. Alot of said stances are based around blaster reflection, instead of saber to saber combat, which is why the saber stances often aren't pointed forward but instead parallel to the body.

    • @dallenhumpherys7911
      @dallenhumpherys7911 Рік тому +75

      A well-trained lightsaber-fighter should be able to tell the difference between a stance meant for blocking blaster shots and a stance used for fencing, and when to use either.

    • @_ChineseJesus_
      @_ChineseJesus_ Рік тому +191

      @@dallenhumpherys7911 Cal wasn’t that well trained lmao bro looked like he was under 10 years old during Order 66

    • @MCSPARTAN501
      @MCSPARTAN501 Рік тому +120

      @@dallenhumpherys7911 Cal wasn't well-trained, and it's likely that most of his training focused on blaster deflection anyway. The CIS had Asajj Ventress, Count Dooku, and General Grievous as their only lightsaber wielders. Cal was not expected to fight any of them, much less win against them. I'm not sure why he didn't use a dueling stance here though--perhaps he forgot the little bit of dueling training he had?

    • @SWTobito0702
      @SWTobito0702 Рік тому +65

      @Dallen Humpherys The majority of Jedi aren't extensively trained in lightsaber combat because they come from a time when it simply wasn't something that happened often enough to warrant said training.
      Not to mention that Cal was maybe 12 years old at the time of Order 66, at that point in training you only learn form one which is pretty much exclusively used for blaster deflection and the most basic of lightsaber forms.

    • @dallenhumpherys7911
      @dallenhumpherys7911 Рік тому +9

      @@MCSPARTAN501 Maybe he's not well trained, but this is pretty basic stuff. If he is so incompetent, then he should have lost every lightsaber fight he was in. And there were plenty of people and droids in the clone wars and before that had electrostaffs and such.

  • @ohawwgeez3112
    @ohawwgeez3112 Рік тому +485

    Glad he acknowledges that lightsabers and space sorcery change sword combat.

    • @JonduGaming
      @JonduGaming Рік тому +11

      Fr. Imagine being able to throw your offhand out and knock your opponent's feet out from under them when they go for a strike.

    • @Captain_Insano_nomercy
      @Captain_Insano_nomercy Рік тому +5

      The fact that it's essentially weightless, has no edge to align, and can cut without needing kinetic energy means the fighting strategies would be significantly different from real world sword fighting

    • @catodes1295
      @catodes1295 Місяць тому

      ​@@Captain_Insano_nomercy
      It's not truly weightless, or else people will just wave it around like a flashlight

  • @axletman3394
    @axletman3394 Рік тому +74

    This guy would LOVE the blaster stance in Jedi Survivor. It's exactly what he asks for near the end with the idea of more thrusts and whatnot, plus a gun.

  • @Phoboskomboa
    @Phoboskomboa Рік тому +128

    One excuse for some ot the stuff that Jedi do in fights is that the Force let's you see the future a little. It also lets you feel what your opponent is thinking and planning. In a way, a big flashy style that has a lot of "openings" makes sense if the real skill of the style is how far you can see in the future. It actually works great as a reason to let fights be big and dramatic in ways that they wouldn't be in real life.

    • @JainaSoloB312
      @JainaSoloB312 Рік тому +10

      Exactly! This is the genius of lightsaber combat, the mechanics of the technology and the magic justify all those classic Hollywood sword tropes.
      When you look at the world of SW and how the Force works and everything, the best way to fight would be as flashy as possible, leading to the great spectacle we see in SW duels.

  • @Grigsy
    @Grigsy Рік тому +177

    Cal’s opening stance is reflective of his lightsaber, form VI Niman- aka the diplomats form. It focuses on balance and was the preferred form of the order until the Clone Wars. It allows simple blade work and blends other forms and helps incorporate force attacks/defenses into the battle tactics. The goal was to do make a form that could handle 90% of opponents out there while the Jedi could focus on other pursuits (healing, diplomacy, translating, writing, etc. ). It works great until you encounter a sith or someone trained by the sith.

    • @tlsgrz6194
      @tlsgrz6194 Рік тому +11

      But that is a in universe explanation based on some author at some point making it up. The point of the video is, that it's not grounded in real life, not that it doesn't make sense in universe

    • @1lovesoni
      @1lovesoni Рік тому +12

      ​@@tlsgrz6194One could argue that the lightsaber is used more often like a very thin sheild or parrying dagger, to block/deflect mostly projectiles.

    • @Cody-pn8wy
      @Cody-pn8wy Рік тому +27

      @@tlsgrz6194 You mean the fighting styles used by space wizards in another galaxy aren't grounded in real life? Like it's a space fantasy? Who would have thought.

    • @lordnul1708
      @lordnul1708 Рік тому +13

      There's also the fact that Cal's lightsaber was originally a double bladed one to begin with, but it was shot in half during Order 66.

    • @MintyLime703
      @MintyLime703 Рік тому +5

      ​@@Cody-pn8wy What's even the point of your reply? You're being needlessly combative despite reiterating exactly what he just said.

  • @kylelantan9220
    @kylelantan9220 Рік тому +25

    To slightly defend Cal on the single saber stance in the begining, he had defaulted to his training, which was done with the staff style lightsaber. And as someone else said, to be fair to the Jedi most of their opponents used blasters not sabers so most of their training was probably focused on defending against that.

  • @CompleteProducer84
    @CompleteProducer84 Рік тому +163

    “The age of piracy” has a totally different meaning to my generation. He’s thinking pirates, I’m thinking Napster

  • @Gamogomo
    @Gamogomo Рік тому +76

    Matt should watch The Old Republic cinematic and react to their fighting.

    • @noturdad101
      @noturdad101 Рік тому +5

      Oh he would not like it. There is an absolute badass behind the back block that would absolutely never work in real life, he would have a field day😂. I personally love it, but he wont

    • @whitewolf3051
      @whitewolf3051 Рік тому

      I’m thinking Matt should watch The Mask of Zorro (1998) and do a reaction to the sword fights there.

    • @hawkins347
      @hawkins347 Рік тому

      @@noturdad101 To be fair, the guy who performs that block also dies a minute later xD

  • @Midnight_7567
    @Midnight_7567 Рік тому +164

    What you said about the lightsabers binding and sticking together makes sense as in the animated series Star Wars: Rebels, Kanan teaches Sabine how to wield a lightsaber and comments on how there is a feel of a pull of energy between the two blades when they touch, like a magnetism of sorts

    • @dallenhumpherys7911
      @dallenhumpherys7911 Рік тому +26

      Yes that is a nice bit of lore. Sword edges do something similar as their edges bite into each their. Still doesn’t justify a static bind, but cool nonetheless.

    • @TheAHuman
      @TheAHuman Рік тому +10

      It is a magnetic field around the plasma, so the magnetic fields should interact with each other.

    • @darthsirrius
      @darthsirrius Рік тому +2

      Likely the magnetic fields would repel one another, unless they were aligned in the opposite direction, in which case they would probably never come apart, because if they're strong enough to contain plasma, they're way stronger than the strongest human, force or otherwise lol.

    • @jacktheripper7735
      @jacktheripper7735 Рік тому +1

      Kanan teaches her how to use the Darksaber, which is different from most lightsabers in that, it becomes harder to wield the more emotional you are.

    • @dianabarnett6886
      @dianabarnett6886 Рік тому +1

      @@jacktheripper7735 That may actually be true of typical lightsabers, too, although to a lesser extent. (The darksaber is cranky and demanding)

  • @caseymarkovic7991
    @caseymarkovic7991 Рік тому +447

    These are fun to watch it always cracks me up when the people playing the game make it look worse

    • @calebarnold797
      @calebarnold797 Рік тому +30

      Don't know what it is about game journalists, but I've kinda learned to enjoy it

    • @LucaBattiato-lm4rn
      @LucaBattiato-lm4rn Рік тому +2

      Facts😂

    • @holliswilliams8426
      @holliswilliams8426 Рік тому +5

      it's charming incompetence

    • @alexo_pog
      @alexo_pog Рік тому +43

      right? like when the sword guy comments that he shouldnt be jumping around and instead block... yeah right, you CAN do that! and it makes the fight more in the player's favor due to stance break and counterattack for one

    • @DanFarrell98
      @DanFarrell98 Рік тому +1

      Videogames allow for a wide variety of ways to play them

  • @Doomsword0
    @Doomsword0 Рік тому +17

    The rolling dodge makes sense in context of using it to avoid creatures when fighting them but in lightsaber to lightsaber fights the game encourages you to block and parry and stay close to your target

  • @Landwehr900
    @Landwehr900 Рік тому +38

    first stance makes a bit more sense when you're focused on deflecting blaster bolts and not fighting other lightsaber users (much as the protagonist of this game would have done as he was just an apprentice during the Clone Wars as a child)

  • @Cleric314
    @Cleric314 Рік тому +44

    Cal is also not a fully trained fighter/Jedi so his stances and technique aren't refined

  • @petekwando
    @petekwando Рік тому +44

    I'm curious what you think of the mechanic where repeated strikes "wear down" your ability to parry. That - and the red unblockable attacks - are a big reason why most of us spend a lot of time tumbling.

    • @uwesca6263
      @uwesca6263 Рік тому +12

      As a fencer: the idea of strikes to wear down your opponent is a bit odd for real fights. Exhaustion is a problem but less so in a short duel. Training lasts at least an hour or more so a fighter should not be exhausted to the point of imobility in a mere minute.
      But theres more to it!
      In a fight when someone parrys then his opponent will make another fast attack in order to get him. Which can also be parried. Each action get faster and shorter in distance. At some point one is to slow to counter anymore or they are to close to perform any action. The better the fencer the longer this will continue. But we are talking about something like 2-5 actions each. Real fights are incredible fast.
      A fight is basicly: action->counter->counter-counter->counter-counter-counter->(andso one) till someone is hit. A total timespan of 30sec. after the first action.

    • @expert_fretwork
      @expert_fretwork Рік тому +2

      Honestly the whole "dark souls" roll away trope is frustrating to see in this game. It's one of my least favorite mechanics about fights so far (I'm only about 90 minutes into the game).
      Rolling away occasionally as a dodge would be fine, but sidestepping and simply moving seems like it should also be an option to the animation, maybe depending on how much you mash the dodge button.

    • @inawinchester
      @inawinchester Рік тому +1

      ​@@expert_fretwork it is an option, it's called perfect evade

    • @yeen.7209
      @yeen.7209 Рік тому

      it does work! in my earlier days of being in my hema club for italian fencing and other styles, one of my opponents kept beating my blade to the side and it REALLY messed with my wrist

  • @passiondono4692
    @passiondono4692 Рік тому +6

    Wonder if he's aware that star wars has it's own established set of lightsaber forms (even if they don't resemble real world techniques), so when the night sister says she recognizes the stance, it's because she's aware of what lightsaber form cal is using.

  • @Madmij
    @Madmij Рік тому +8

    7:50 he was using a double bladed lightsaber with the bottom half broken, it was literally a hand and a half

  • @BoomSlang001
    @BoomSlang001 Рік тому +35

    These are always insightful and enjoyable. Kudos to him for acknowledging the remarks about lightsabers sticking in universe.

  • @MrThewalkingdead
    @MrThewalkingdead Рік тому +41

    Star Wars Rebels. Those duels are well thought out. And with Ashoka coming out, it would make sense to look at some of those.

    • @chriscrossx3701
      @chriscrossx3701 Рік тому +12

      except for the whole spinning lightsabers

    • @TechnoShogun1
      @TechnoShogun1 Рік тому +14

      @@chriscrossx3701 Yeah but they have Kanan and Ahsoka expose the weakness of that kind of saber within the show.

    • @chriscrossx3701
      @chriscrossx3701 Рік тому +8

      @@TechnoShogun1 still doesn't make it any less dumb

    • @Trathien-
      @Trathien- Рік тому +1

      ​@@TechnoShogun1if 2 Jedi padawans can find the weakness in it then why was it ever used in canon?

    • @blakemcmillan5680
      @blakemcmillan5680 Рік тому +2

      @@chriscrossx3701 like a lot of dark side stuff, it’s about being threatening and making you’re opponent scared of you clouding their thoughts which makes it harder for a light side user to use the force. Just look at Vader’s armour being all black and menacing to scare people. As well as the spiky savers of sith, doesn’t make the inquisitor saver any less dumb though.

  • @Mister_Vyar
    @Mister_Vyar Рік тому +10

    That first stance does look goofy but it's possible that it's a blaster-defense stance and it's not like real swords were ever used to block ranged weapons. Any Jedi growing up during the Clone Wars is probably garbage at dueling unless they went out of their way to spar with other Jedi and sought extra training in saber-on-saber combat. They would prioritize learning to fight droids with guns at a distance.

  • @ashtont3713
    @ashtont3713 Рік тому +10

    cant wait for an expert to review the new sword stances in jedi survivior!!

  • @BIGW0RM
    @BIGW0RM Рік тому +40

    Nice breakdown of the movement. 10/10 will fence again!

    • @dougr8646
      @dougr8646 Рік тому

      No, it's a PERFECT 5/7

  • @criticalbil1
    @criticalbil1 Рік тому +2

    Opens popcorn ready for the "actually" ripostes from space combat veterans

  • @Neutral_Tired
    @Neutral_Tired Рік тому +10

    Vader canonically fights with the lightsaber form primarily focused on overwhelming the enemy with sheer brute force (form 5, I believe) on account of his slow, powerful cybernetic limbs. In contrast, Anakin used form 4 (I believe), a very agile form which focused on overwhelming the enemy with speed and never staying in one place for too long.

  • @c.k-da-kxnghere
    @c.k-da-kxnghere Рік тому +1

    The reason why someone doesn't kick out or adjust more often during a blade lock with lightsabers is because lightsaber cut a million times easier than a steel blade. Giving up leverage could result in limb amputation or death if you decide to kick out and your opponent decides to change the way he pushes the saber at the same time. Most of the time when when kicks are used during saber locks in Star Wars is directly after the blades make contact, within the first 3 seconds, to limit the amount of time one has to think about what motion they will take. Most of the actions taken during a saber lock, and the safest, is to move back with the lightsaber in a defensive position.
    And when duelist block their back with the hilt behind the head, it wouldn't hit them in the back. The blade of a lightsaber is weightless. If you use two hands during this block the hand nearest to the bottom of the hilt will be pulling towards the head to increase the resistance. It would be fairly easy to keep the blade from pressing into your back unless the opponent is far stronger than you.
    This guy may be an expert on swords, but I'm a goddamn nerd
    He also has no clue about Vader's fighting style. It's so much more complex than he thinks

  • @ItsScapeGoated
    @ItsScapeGoated Рік тому +4

    It has it's own form of fighting and yet people keep getting experts to rate it based on swords completely different from a lightsaber.

  • @daveyjoneslocker4703
    @daveyjoneslocker4703 Рік тому +1

    His point about the weapon being the fastest thing to react with is exactly why the game encourages parrying. He doesn’t know it at that point in the video but he’s backing up how well designed games like Jedi FO and Sekiro are

  • @Malikabubaker
    @Malikabubaker Рік тому +40

    Nice review

    • @Tukhmi02
      @Tukhmi02 Рік тому +2

      Big fan idk u played games 😂

  • @wilfred_ho
    @wilfred_ho Рік тому +1

    Matt comparing Force-wielding to using a pistol will never get old. Especially that time where the video smash cuts to him waving a gun for emphasis.

  • @robbagel54
    @robbagel54 Рік тому +4

    Tbh the sword binds remind me a bit of tsuba zeriai in Kendo. Essentially it’s a state of where you get to close to the opponent to safely withdraw, so you enter a sort of sword bind ish state, kinda hard to explain

    • @MaxRamos8
      @MaxRamos8 Рік тому

      It SHOULD be kendo, idk where people think it's fencing, makes me furious

    • @starlingfox4179
      @starlingfox4179 Рік тому

      @@MaxRamos8 Some duelist style lightsabers utilize fencing methods.

  • @theprinceofallsaiyans_vegita
    @theprinceofallsaiyans_vegita Рік тому +23

    Lightsabers are physically drawn to each other, the crystals begin to resonate in the force causing the to be drawn like magnets.

  • @OneRandomVictory
    @OneRandomVictory Рік тому +4

    We need to get him to react to the Old Republic cinematic fights.

  • @Thelordmagedon
    @Thelordmagedon Рік тому +1

    Should do a part 2 talking about the double blade and dual wielding choreography

  • @spencersonnefeld
    @spencersonnefeld Рік тому +1

    A lot of lightsaber blade locks are pushing forward against each other, but in cases where they're fighting to control the center line an option would be to get your blade out of the way (deactivate or just disengage) so the opponent's force carries past center and you can get a quick shot in, at least to further unbalance the opponent and create an opportunity for a more severe attack.

  • @Aether52
    @Aether52 Рік тому +2

    The big benefit of the double bladed lightsabers and saber staffs is they only have 2 blades when you want them to. They can easily just remain as a single blade until you need the 2nd

  • @thrashbyte60
    @thrashbyte60 Рік тому +1

    Funny how he mentions the sword and pistol combo that we now have in Jedi: Survivor

  • @CandleWisp
    @CandleWisp Рік тому

    12:45 While countering with any number of things during a bind makes sense. I'm such a sucker for the dramatic tension those binds create.
    Two opponents pressing against each other both in a physical clash as well as a battle of wills. Maybe sprinkle in a bit of dialogue, a tid bit of personal history. It's just so cool😊

  • @HolyknightVader999
    @HolyknightVader999 Рік тому +9

    You should react to the Revenge of the Sith video game. The swordplay there is fantastic.

  • @dremantis9389
    @dremantis9389 Рік тому

    I'd also like to point something out about force wielders! The force grants them a little bit of "clairvoyance" in combat, almost like seeing a split second into the future and that's why lightsaber combat drags on for a lot longer than real swordfights! When it comes to binds, i'd say that the reason that binds end up becoming more about overpowering your opponent than finesse with lightsaber combat is because if you attempt something out of a bind, your opponent would have that "clairvoyance" and your out to the bind would end up either going back to being neutral for both parties or disadvantageous for you!

  • @gineis8105
    @gineis8105 Рік тому +2

    The staff the black troopers use isn't that heavy because of technology but they are made out of very heavy material so that they can withstand a strike from a lightsaber

  • @edpjunior
    @edpjunior Рік тому +3

    Funny seeing Cat Easton's dad around here

  • @daanabbring5409
    @daanabbring5409 Рік тому +2

    Where is the middle cutscene of the Malicos fight? That part was pretty strong in choreography in my opinion.

    • @LucaBattiato-lm4rn
      @LucaBattiato-lm4rn Рік тому +2

      Yeah facts and it was epic. They shouldn't really be looking at gameplay and should be looking at more cutscenes

  • @KingfishWatch
    @KingfishWatch Рік тому +339

    So made up fighting styles with sci fi weapons in a fantasy universe are unrealistic, got it

    • @Armando_Aranda
      @Armando_Aranda Рік тому +21

      Imagine a swords expert reviewing magic in games.

    • @MikeAltogether
      @MikeAltogether Рік тому +71

      You can enjoy fiction and still treat it as an opportunity to learn.

    • @vaitoshi5301
      @vaitoshi5301 Рік тому +11

      This video is made as a critique rather than for fun or educational purposes. Got it.

    • @peterhamsterhotdog613
      @peterhamsterhotdog613 Рік тому +8

      Wasent star wars fighting styles inspired by real fighting styles? Im abit confused here?

    • @SmileyFrawg
      @SmileyFrawg Рік тому +15

      Waah don't say my video game is silly, you hurt my feelings, it's ok we can still play the game

  • @adamduncan123456
    @adamduncan123456 Рік тому +2

    The glove on Vader's left hand is indestructible. Makes for a great 🛡

  • @greekstyle5788
    @greekstyle5788 Рік тому

    Ive always imagined that lightsabers react when they touch eachother and kind of repel eachother (kinda like magnets) so that when they touch the blades together and push it actually takes a lot more strength to survive

  • @dogmadogma5398
    @dogmadogma5398 6 місяців тому

    Great stuff !

  • @slackolantern
    @slackolantern Рік тому +2

    As far as clashing the blades together goes, I've always just assumed that they were also using the Force against each other and so they can't take any other action.

  • @DynomitePunch
    @DynomitePunch Рік тому

    the lightsaber sticking together thing makes sense as, it would last a few moments because if were both pushing and one of us decides to pull away, the other could use that opportunity to gain more momentum in the fight, it's the same argument as the "why don't you cut it off and back on" argument for binding, the second one saber goes off the other goes forward, you'd have to turn it off and on for a SPLIT second in order for it to work in that argument and as we all know it takes a couple seconds for them to light up and solidify theirefore it would not work, but those are my theories

  • @veritasome5965
    @veritasome5965 Рік тому

    It’s interesting seeing the drastic change in first Anakin’s then Vader’s technique when he fought Kenobi.
    Even at his prime Anakin used a precision two handed stance against him because he knew he was a deadly fighter, his critical mistake was in becoming too impatient to end their duel to the point he attacked at a strategically disadvantageous position in the arrogant belief his power would be sufficient to make up the difference.
    When next they dueled decades later on the Death Star, that arrogance remained in Vader but it had been tempered by painful experience. As a result, you see him using a more guarded stance and utilizing a patient style to test for weaknesses without overtly opening himself to a counterattack.
    You see the same thing when he first faces Luke in Cloud City. First he uses a loose one handed style as he reasons he’s facing a relative novice and is simply looking to test the basics of Luke’s form. Once he sees there’s some skill involved, he stops the playful phase and changes to a two handed grip to fully test Luke’s limits.

  • @edwardmcalavey2816
    @edwardmcalavey2816 Рік тому +2

    Technically the jedi don't endorse violence and actually shunned allot of the more aggressive styles, so a lot of their fighting styles and stances were meant for defence and being less threatening as they were peace keeps not warriors, which is why they are so overwhelmed when fighting alot 9f the sith

  • @Phantomsbreath
    @Phantomsbreath Рік тому +1

    "That guard" is in fact from Shii-Cho. A beginner's stance *in universe*

  • @tarrker
    @tarrker Рік тому

    0:45 - That is 100% what we always used to call the shield stance. It's a reference to the various Star Wars RPGs that have popped up over the years. ^_^

  • @cbroo69
    @cbroo69 Рік тому +1

    Id love to see him review the deleted scenes footage of Anakin v Count Dooku's stunt double training

  • @Erebos931
    @Erebos931 Рік тому +1

    A handguard on the end sorta makes sense since she switches hands sometimes.

  • @scottlemiere2024
    @scottlemiere2024 Рік тому +1

    Most force users have limited precognition and they know what the next swing is any way. Wide swings aren't making openings that are exploitable.

  • @deklanb.4992
    @deklanb.4992 Рік тому

    Yes! Next react to the Jedi: Survivor stances! Mat would love the Blaster stance, super thrust-heavy. Plus a gun. Gun is always a benefit XD

  • @SWTobito0702
    @SWTobito0702 Рік тому +16

    12:42 but they did... Trilla tried to get a hit in with her 2nd blade, Cal deactivated his blade and dodged causing her to overswing and he then force pushed her back.

    • @dallenhumpherys7911
      @dallenhumpherys7911 Рік тому +6

      There’s still no justification for them holding the bind for as long as they did.

    • @leveticus5721
      @leveticus5721 Рік тому +2

      The concept of that exchange was cool and addresses the point of not just static binding, but the effectiveness was terrible.
      Slow it down and you can see she swings her attack over his head with him not dodging at all. Attacking the weapon and not your opponent is something novices do all the time, like kids play fighting. Then he uses a nonlethal Force push instead of reigniting his saber into an attack like a quick thrust. Net zero result for both fighters, just wasted effort.

    • @holliswilliams8426
      @holliswilliams8426 Рік тому

      my understanding was that the bind is more of a cinematic trope which people have come to expect

  • @BaronVonHardcharger
    @BaronVonHardcharger Рік тому +2

    Mr. Easton with the realness.

  • @brendansunra
    @brendansunra Рік тому +2

    The Inquisitor saber shouldn't have handguards at all. They're useless against an opponent's lightsaber.

  • @Affirmbuttress
    @Affirmbuttress Рік тому

    I’m glad pervy the purge trooper was included in this analysis

  • @cybcx404
    @cybcx404 Рік тому

    Very informative

  • @praisethesun5209
    @praisethesun5209 Рік тому +32

    People being upset at a weapons expert for not spewing out lightsaber lore

    • @LucaBattiato-lm4rn
      @LucaBattiato-lm4rn Рік тому +2

      Lol fr

    • @rumblefish9
      @rumblefish9 Рік тому +1

      Like whats the point. They had on a psychologist who at least knew the Batman lore. A lot of the tropes he complained about, there are reasons they are there. Like the lighsabers connecting. They don't behave like metal because they aren't. So why complain about it? Anyone with a smidgen of SW knowledge knows that when lightsabers connect, there is a kind of magnetic force created.

  • @lucagerulat307
    @lucagerulat307 Рік тому

    In fencing it's recommended to try and dodge more than to parry because parrying is less reliable than dodging.

  • @Byte_J
    @Byte_J Рік тому +22

    Strange that he doesn’t recognize a stance from a video game that references made up fighting styles.

    • @smittywerbenjagermanjenson1095
      @smittywerbenjagermanjenson1095 Рік тому +5

      Especially about magic space wizards who have mystery powers and glow sticks that cut through any material. Crazy

    • @dangerfly
      @dangerfly Рік тому +8

      You can make up a stance that's logically ineffective and only children will like or you can put more effort into something intelligent adults will like. Even space magic has rules and if you don't apply it consistently it looks silly.

  • @Thorien22
    @Thorien22 Рік тому +1

    When Matt says he would like to see more thrusts in this game, he's watching the wrong person playing the game because thrust is a very powerful move in this game

  • @theaether3124
    @theaether3124 Рік тому

    the inquisitor saber guard does collapse allowing for the more frontward handguard, it seems to be always overlooked.
    Cal looks lost at close range
    ... yes that's the point its like how lara was haphazardly swinging the climbing pick in tomb raider 2013

  • @fantasyskeep
    @fantasyskeep Рік тому +2

    Vibroblades are very difficult weapons to master.

  • @Robin_Is
    @Robin_Is Рік тому

    Great to see an expert.

  • @casualnerdjason6678
    @casualnerdjason6678 Рік тому +5

    This should be helpful for all the Jedi/Sith LARPers!

  • @c0baltl1ghtn1ng
    @c0baltl1ghtn1ng Рік тому

    Another thing regarding the lightsaber sword-bind thing, Light Sabers are pretty hekkin' hot. Like, Literally Plasma Swords. If you push them into the face of your opponent, they're gonna get a pretty nasty burn if they're not wearing any sort of face protection.

  • @denialz1460
    @denialz1460 Рік тому

    oh many this guy would love the new stances in survivor

  • @alyssaschneider1993
    @alyssaschneider1993 Рік тому +1

    Keeping in mind that Cal was a barely trained child who spent years in hiding and hasn’t kept up what few skills he had, I’m actually surprised that he does this well in close quarters.

  • @RaccAttack77
    @RaccAttack77 Рік тому

    To be fair on the second lightsaber binding, Cal DOES turn off his saber to make her stumble and force pushes her

  • @TheGavin1994
    @TheGavin1994 Рік тому

    I'd say that first stance would be more affective for deflecting blaster fire.

  • @MissesWitch
    @MissesWitch Рік тому

    They should hire this guy for the swordfighting in this game!

  • @DanFarrell98
    @DanFarrell98 Рік тому +1

    We need a video from this guy on Kingdom Come Deliverance if you haven't already

  • @fusbroduh
    @fusbroduh Рік тому +5

    His channel is @scholagladiatoria since they didn't plug him well here.

  • @keefehy
    @keefehy Рік тому

    Here's hope the next movie has a Jedi/Sith that uses a Lightsaber and a Blaster

  • @ThePatriots1959
    @ThePatriots1959 Рік тому +15

    You probably should have explained to him that theirs unblockable attacks in the game, the bit after 1:30 is interesting but in video games nowadays you cant block everything so rolling around and dodging is necessary.

    • @Apillis124
      @Apillis124 Рік тому +10

      He acknowledges a couple times within video (and the multiple other videos IGN brought him in for) from the onset that he recognizes that somethings and move sets are done do to mechanics of the game, BUT the reason for his presence is to critique them from a real-world martial arts fencing standpoint regardless of the game's mechanics. So, he doesn't need anything explained to him, he's aware, and in the end of the vid' he's just stating--there's a better and cooler way to do things than the rolling around on the ground that we see in these Dark Souls mechanics inspired games.

    • @Hjartulv
      @Hjartulv Рік тому +2

      You probably should listen what he said before

  • @AsianWomenareGold
    @AsianWomenareGold Рік тому +2

    Bro. These are Force wielders. And also the Force guides them. We can't use our way of martial arts and try to say that it's not possible in the galaxy far far away. Anything is possible.

    • @Namewriter
      @Namewriter Рік тому +1

      Imagine the possibility... Of using sword techniques in a lightsaber duel

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um Рік тому +4

    It's no coincidence his making reaction video of Fallen Order now, because of Jedi Survivor is going to be release on April 28, 2023.

  • @delen_den
    @delen_den Рік тому +1

    Tbh, that thumbnail caught my attention in different emotions, not even reading this being about the new Star Wars' game 😂 Another job to our best plumber/doctor/etc.
    Jedi Sins or Johnny Skywalker definitely crossed my mind before clicking the vid ✌️

  • @wilian.
    @wilian. Рік тому +8

    Lightsaber stances and sword stances are entirely different in most cases as doing some stuff cal does with his lightsaber with a sword in real life would be insane

    • @obiwankenobi9439
      @obiwankenobi9439 Рік тому +3

      But then cal should not be doing steelsword tactics with a lightsabre too. Which he does. Ex the backblock.

    • @nojii
      @nojii Рік тому

      @@obiwankenobi9439sekiro got it perfect

  • @gabrielacosta9470
    @gabrielacosta9470 Рік тому

    The inquisitor lightsaber actually has a retractable guard in the 5th episode of Star wars rebels you see the grand inquisitor use both blades with only one guard so whenever they use both guards it’s a choice

  • @haileybraunz2453
    @haileybraunz2453 Рік тому +1

    Acording to some of the cannon novels when two force users fight the real battle and biggest struggle actualy has little to do with the fencing it is more like a constant battle of wills in the force imperceptible to non force users most of the time in a way light sabers are more for blocking blasters and certain force ability’s and while the are defiantly dangerous this battle of wills could explained some of the longer pushing binds not all but some

  • @vergil9981
    @vergil9981 Рік тому

    He really gonna love whet they did in the sequel

  • @SuperVblade
    @SuperVblade Рік тому +3

    To be fair the lightsaber fighting styles were originally designed by someone else specifically for lightsabers not swords

    • @TutosViolet
      @TutosViolet Рік тому

      Lighsabers are laser SWORDS and many things still aply.

    • @ElectricAlien577
      @ElectricAlien577 Рік тому +1

      ​@Violet
      They're also weirded by space wizards who can feel the future. Also, lightsabers don't behave like normal swords in combat.

    • @zombieoverlord5173
      @zombieoverlord5173 Рік тому +1

      @@TutosViolet They are weightless Plasma swords wielded by magical space wizards. It simply isn't a laser sword

  • @shanebardoel1958
    @shanebardoel1958 Рік тому

    Correct me if im wrong but arent there mainly one handed bastard swords that are shorter

  • @ignacnovotny2808
    @ignacnovotny2808 Рік тому

    Lightsabers are supposed to stick together to some degree (still it is possible to slide). As for vader. actors in OT were told to use both hands for lightsabers because they are supposed to be heavy, vader is sopposed to be strong enough to use it easily one handed.

  • @degitoblue6783
    @degitoblue6783 Рік тому +2

    He's a Padawan who's training is incomplete.

  • @malcolmrowe9003
    @malcolmrowe9003 Рік тому

    Have you looked at the duel in the 'Shindig' episode of Firefly?

  • @agentoy6065
    @agentoy6065 Рік тому

    im intrersted to see what he think of the cross guard, duel wield and blaster saber in survivor

  • @Niclout
    @Niclout Рік тому

    Matt would likely love the blaster stance in jedi survivor

  • @nathanielforeskin8399
    @nathanielforeskin8399 Рік тому

    Another reason for Vader's awkward movement is that when he's I guess resurrected his body is still so damaged that he can't really practice the original saber forms and somewhat has to swing it like a big stick

  • @troyjackson9743
    @troyjackson9743 Рік тому +2

    Something most people forget is that in this game cal probably hasnt fought or practiced with his lightsaber for years. Of course he is goiing to have flaws in his technique.

  • @Wyrd916
    @Wyrd916 Рік тому

    That’s Form VI! Niman. The weird guard is to have it at the ready, but not get in the way of using your other hand for the force.

  • @nahtanbaeker
    @nahtanbaeker Рік тому

    2:57 wait until he finds out about the blaster stance

  • @peenplays4219
    @peenplays4219 Рік тому +2

    Always love Matt