Train Simulator 2019 - Route Learning: London Liverpool Street to Norwich (MK3 DVT/Class 90)
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- In this episode of the route learning series, we take an Abellio Greater Anglia Class 90 set with the locomotive on the rear between London Liverpool Street and Norwich. This video uses the original GEML London to Ipswich route, along with the freeware extension to Norwich available on Steam Workshop. We follow the real life timetable of train 1P04, the 06:25 departure from Liverpool Street, calling at Stratford, Chelmsford, Witham, Colchester, Manningtree, Ipswich, Stowmarket, Diss, and Norwich along the way.
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Like to see this back in the 70s / early 80s with a 47 , old signalling etc
The lower frame rate is also lifelike for the London to Norwich service
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What a fantastic way to show off this full route, putting this on my list to not only get the extension but also to get the loco's to run on it also. Thanks again for a great video.
Extension????
Yes, the class 86 use to run on the Great Eastern main line in Anglia Railways/ONE services days of the 1990s/early-mid 2000s, so did the 170 modern units for a period of time which later used the London-Lowestoft services, again for a short period.
The girder overbridge at 9:37 carries the East London line with Shoreditch High Street station just to the left of the bridge itself.
The "jerk" when pulling away is quite common with the class 90s
Awesome video! So professional and well-done and informative, you produce the very best!! Please keep it up! If you haven’t done so already, then please could you do a route learning from London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour in a class 444?!
A great video, thank you, I lived in Norwich in the 80s and 90s and travelled on this line many many times. It is interesting that the configuration of locomotive at the 'Up' (and first class) end, first introduced with the Class 86/DBSO combination in the late 80s, has been retained with the Class 90/Class 82 combination while the ECML has always had the locomotive at the 'Down' (and standard class) end with the Class 91/Class 82 combination.
The reason is that Greater Anglia's TMD for the 90s is at Norwich Crown Point, so it's easier to facilitate loco changes.
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Someone’s probably replied about the close neutral sections but I want to add my two cents
Basically due to the amount of diverging routes out of Liverpool Street these sections need their own power and the substations around the London area are divided for each section. On the suburban lines power is fed between Liverpool Street and hackney downs before going to another supply and bow junction is split up between gas factory junction (another neutral section would be at the other end on the LTS) and then around manor park the neutral section is for the link to barking via woodgrange park where the power comes from the LTS substations. That’s the basic explanation of how there are more neutral sections around the London area
Superb to see a good drive on my commuter line. Hopefully there will be a GA Stadler Flirt in TS one day.
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Another splendid video, Peter; thank you.
Many thanks for your comment Roger, as always your input is appreciated. :)
@@PTGRail where do you find he reskin for the class 90 to get the actual branding 'Greater Anglia'as I bought the class 90 on steam and I have the livery but not brand name
The girder bridge you mention I believe carries the London Overground from as far as say Highbury & Islington, Willesden Junction, Clapham Junction and Richmond. Also to New Cross and West Croydon.
Another excellent video and thanks for posting and your work in producing these videos.
Great to see you back Peter! Keep up the good work
Full GEML.. Nice video btw.
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Great video, the crossovers north of Stowmarket are called cow green and the so called industrial tanks are actually Tivetshall Maltings. I was a patrolman for many years on this route. Look forward to another video
Great Video, about the Neutral Sections, as Adam said it is probably because this was the first section of UK railways to be fully upgraded to 25Kv from 1500v DC as it was originally this is Liverpool Street to Shenfield and Southend so this was based on the DC layout,which being DC ,Direct Current had to have short sections with frequent Substations, the Fenchurch Street to Shoeburyness had the same history and upgrade.....after this the next Electrification project was the West Coast line initially from Euston to Crewe which of course was built from scratch and was able to have long sections and wider spaced substations
As someone who misses these sets on the line in real life I had to go back and view this, excellent video :)
I have done this Route so many times! 🤣 (in reAl life)
Great video Pete! I do believe there are decorated versions of the Southend and Southminster branches. I've seen Alan Thomson drive on them. A potential idea for the future maybe...
nice to see a train going through diss and gissing towards norwich
Wow this must be the first ever full run I've seen of this route without the game crashing! Great video again Pete :)
I’ve never managed to drive this route without it crashing before, it was awesome to be able to drive this entire journey in one go! Before 64-bit came along, I couldn’t even get as far as Shenfield before getting a crash dump, even after turning the settings down.
Yeah I only ever got as far as Harold Wood, and Diss in the opposite direction (with settings turned down as well)
very professional train driver :) keep at it. ( You would be a great driver )
I wish this was on train sim world 4 that be awesome drive from Liverpool Street to Norwich
Well done
Been on this route as I said previously in 2015 and also 2005. Yes, 115 miles between London Liverpool Street and Norwich. The midway point is around the Manningtree/Ipswich area.
Great Video, the favourite thing about this train I like is the horn. =)
Used to live in Chelmsford getting off here for a pint in the Railway Tavern
Heard the comment about wanting to see all the branches in Train Simulator.
Look up the Crouch Valley Line on UKTS. It started with the southern branch to Southminister (version 1, out about 2009 or 2010), then extanded to include the branch to Southend Victoria (2011), and the latest and presumably final version is from January of 2014 including the ENTIRE GEML as far as Ipswich. i do not know whether he actually connected his route to it, but given he also has the Braintree extension and even added the Sudbury extension (with one of the scenarios there, a ghost train I believe), he might have done the entire route on his own at the same time as DTG did. Therefore, it's its own route, and I'm shocked it's not well known.
ATS even has a track patch for it, hence my learning of it. The Crouch Valley Line. Check it out if you're interested. The branch just before Ipswich is not explored, unfortunately, and I do not believe he went past Ipswich.
i assume the neutral sections are close together because it used to be a 6.25 kV/1,500Volt DC line, before being converted to 25kV AC. Don't know if that's the actual reasoning though.
I had the same thought I think it was one the first, if not the first, lines to receive overhead electrification (but not all the way to Norwich).
Great graphics. Diss Station looks identical
Nice! This is the train I get to London from Colchester.
The run starts at 7:20 after the cab set up 😁
The girder over bridge at 17:46 carries the section of the GOBLIN line between Wanstead Park and Woodgrange Park.
Yes, you are right as well. I think that is the former Bishopsgate station, just outside Liverpool Street station. An incident took place around the area some years back and passengers had to walk on the tracks to Liverpool Street.
Loving these frequent uploads!
I really appreciate your videos. Thanks for sharing
Where did you get the Reskin from? (Class 90 + DVT)
I love these Train Simulator Videos please keep making more vids on Train Simulator
nice logical commentary, thank you.
I can tell u that Witham has been done very realistically
There is bridge before the platform and over it
Even the vending machine on the right is in the correct place
As well as the line of housing on the left and the factory thing on the right behind the car park
Great Video!
Love the way you use miles, so many things on TV now use kilometres which are pretty meaningless to us in the UK
I use miles on British and American routes as that’s what’s used in real life. I use kilometers on German and other routes in this game because that’s what they use in real life. :)
yes that's true but channel is aimed at UK viewers so do both on the continent perhaps?@@PTGRail
Can you do a dusk time journey return from London Liverpool Street to Braintree please? In a class 321?
Welcome aboard on this Greater Anglia service to London Liverpool Street calling at Diss, Stowmarket, Needham Market, Ipswich, Manningtree, Colchester, Marks Tey, Kelvedon, Witham, Hatfield Peverel, Chelmsford, Ingatestone, Shenfield, Romford, Seven Kings, Stratford and London Liverpool Street. The next station is Diss.
After the signal at danger at the end of the platform at Stowmarket you failed to assume the following signal was also red.
Straight through a tree at 21:39
Just out of curiosity, why do some of the 321 trains have 12 coaches when the majority have 8?
321s can be formed of 4, 8, or 12 coaches. I wasn’t sure which services were supposed to be which length, so chose randomly. As it’s during the morning rush hour, I figured that you’d be unlikely to see any 4 coach formations so went with 8 and 12, with 8 being the most common length I’ve seen when travelling on the GEML.
@@PTGRail Yes the CPU trains are timetabled.
RIP Greater Anglia Class 90s
That FOV tho...
How did you get the AGA Class 90/DVT set?
Also I might as well add that the Full GEML route seen here does NOT come up on the steam workshop anymore, I'm not certain if it`s having a revamp or it is permentely gone.
Any Suggestions?
Cool video it does not stop Witham dude that’s wrong Announcement
Norwich services don't normally stop at Witham, but this one does. Train 1P04, the 06:25 service from Liverpool Street to Norwich is scheduled to stop at Witham at 07:08. See here: www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/L71013/2019/09/26/advanced
PTGRail oh ok that’s nice bro you should do London Liverpool Street to Southend Victoria dude that be awesome but cool video too
The Olympic stadium a 12:59 is now home to West Ham United football club.
Yes, that is right from the former ground at Upton Park. Ipswich station is the point where the line to Lowestoft turns off from the main line.
for some reason i cant finsd this on the workshop and the link says to try again
never new any stopped at witham.
Neither. I thought these services just skipped it.
This is the only Class 90 service to stop at Witham from what I can see in the timetable.
what ever
They also stop when trains run to ingatestone/shenfield
Where did you get the livery
i'm watching this without sound and at 2x speed, but what's up with that SPAD at 1:29:35 ? Bug in the route that won't clear the signal?
PTGRail, Did you know that the class 91, 82 - Mark 3 and 82 Mark 4 DVTs have three horns?
This route is not available in the workshop, where to find this route
Will you be able to go from Shenfield to Southend Victoria at some point?
You can drive from Liverpool street to Southend Victoria. The extension is on UKtrainsim
Why do I always think that it is Matt peddleston behind the mic?
Is this the Norwich in 90 train?
After a new install. I installed this from the steam workshop, but it still asking for other things I can’t find. I’m new to rail sims, I’m trying to get it working for my son. I travelled this service this evening on my way home.
Thanks
The route or the train?
What happens if u drive with the DRA on John
Hello PTGRail.
Anyone else watching this during lockdown ??
Before, during and after
can someone please tell me how to get the extention from ipswich to norwich please
Hello, PTG and all:
First of all, nice and long awaited video, especially the full GEML, a very interesting line.
Second, I've been long trying to look for that Class 90 link, where can and did you get it for free or did you use payware to access the Greater Anglia Class 90?
Thank you and keep up the good work.
Thanks for your comment! I’m glad that you enjoyed this video. The Class 90 is the version available from the Steam store, and the resin comes with the Wherry Lines route.
*reskin
the Armstrong version or both steam and Armstrong have it?
@@cytokin5365 Its a reskin of the Steam version of the Class 90
1:29:45 So from here, can we call it the Diss-track?
Do you do a voice over or live voice with recording when doing these?????
It's a live commentary as I'm driving, though the introduction is usually scripted and done more as a voiceover.
@@PTGRail ahhh ok 👍 keep up the good stuffs. It really helps
Nice video! Where was the scenario from please? :)
It is a custom created scenario I think
good
This guy is like the shmee of trains
How did you get this route
Is the extension still free?
You can't get the extension you can get wherry lines access you to get a scenario from the geml
Now then, why Witham of all places? I understand it's a rather nice town, but class 90s don't stop there..
Most don’t, but this one does. I used the real timetable in the creation of this scenario. See here: www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/L81022/2018/12/06/advanced
@@PTGRail Right, that's rather intruiging...
@@jakegtr Been there a couple of times, it's alright I suppose - "fancy" was just a supposed structure word.
On Sunday 23 December 1P16 0948 Ingatestone to Norwich calls at Witham. www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/F95634/2018/12/23/advanced
What is the ‘neutral section’ and what is the sign for it?
Is a section without power.Used to change voltage in catenary
Where can I get the class 90?
Steam and Armstrong powerhouse but you need the steam first then ap
06:25
Where did u get the reskin
It comes with the Wherry Lines route.
What computer do you use
I’m using an Intel Core i7 4790k 4ghz Processor, with 16gb Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1833mhz RAM, and an NVIDIA GTX 980 graphics card.
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