Just based on the Director`s interview. In Korea, there is an old superstition that every each area have a ghost who protects the people of the village. They call it "Tochack-ryung" means ghost who stick in the land. So the woman here is a kind of good ghost who is fated to protect the village. She wanted to protect her village from that evil spirit. This is why she was wearing victim`s stuff like cloths, hairpin. The shaman is connected to the old japanese man. He is also a japanese. A scene where the shaman is changing clothes, he wore the same underwear as the japanese man. Why shaman does all of this is because he tricks the people of the village and earn money through it. Japanese man is possessed by an evil. Sometimes he is just a normal person and that’s why he was crying at the cliff scene. While the shaman is performing the ritual, the Japanese man is also suffering - Director said it in the interview, that wasn’t the same time event. The director wanted to make the audience a little bit confused. Anyway this movie has a quite simple story line but the director cut and slice some scenes and mix it together and that’s why it makes this movie harder to understand. Based on Director Hong-jin, Na`s interview
I believe the japanese man was hurt doing the ritual not because of the shaman but because the victim which he took a photo of is still alive..not sure tho
@@iamgar6age i believe it was just another police theory of why the killings take place since that 1 guy who was possessed that killed his family was known to use the mushrooms.. and they thought his hallucinations made him do it
The Awakening ́Ω` she didn’t suck. They all had a choice. As Diety/angel you can only act as a teacher and a guide. Getting to directly involved would’ve been an attack on their personal growth LIVE.PRAY.REPEAT 🙏🏻
@@jesusiscoming9252 So demonic spirits get to attack people all day with no limit but a protective deity can't do her job and protect her people because she might interfere with their "personal growth"? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
@@hughxr Communication is so much more than simple 'dialogue,' I'm glad you brought the issue up as it's important to know. Non-verbal Comm is approximately 90% of all Comm.
I like how this movie put together multiple religious beliefs on the supernatural (christian, japanese, and local korean superstition) like they existed in the same realm. I don't think I've ever seen any other supernatural film like it
they do exist in the same realm. I was born a christian, i've been in a room where at a christian retreat where 2 people were laying hands on someone as they were praying for them, the person being prayed for swears up and down that because they were prayed for, they were healed of this pain in their back that had been going on for years. In another incident, one of my good friends is buddhist from Thailand, very devout to his religion. They have a shrine for the "house guardian". One time I was at my friend's house I saw "someone" assuming it's my friend walk into another room with the lights off. I followed "him" into the same room and asked him what's taking him so long to turn the lights on. No answer. As my eyes adjusted to the dark room I noticed I was standing right in front of one of the shrines. I ran out of there and my friend was in the kitchen and i told him what happened and he said "oh that's the house guardian" very nonchalantly.
Interestingly enough, the Bible affirms the existence of other cosmic beings besides the Most High. They're framed as selfish, capricious, deceptive and just overall malignant. They are also completely powerless before God/Jesus. And as you'll note in other folklore/religions/mythology, they often openly acknowledge the self-interested nature of their own pantheons. God is also demonstrated as not only the most powerful of all of these beings as well as the Creator, but also as honest, trustworthy, compassionate, forgiving, just, righteous, patient, merciful and extremely loving. As you'll notice, though, He's very much in a league of His own and doesn't like His creation walking around acting as though He is rivaled by any other
poor her.. she is the deity / angel that protects the village in the shadows.. she lost just because the father broke her trap to find his daughter which ends up killing all the family members..
She lost because she can't fucking communicate like a human being. Her plan sucked and she bet everything on biggest loser father. Great fucking job spirit lady, you are worst at protecting villages.
@@NeonUsui I laughed so hard at this. Funny comment, but also true. All she had to do was tell him the truth and I feel like there was a much bigger chance that he would have believed her. COMMUNICATE SIS
@@TheLunablackheart In all religions,all deity tell the truth but forbid to be directly involved with the devil's working.The devil may seduce human and the deity will hint human about that but will not help directly.All must be human's believe what is right or what is wrong.That all depend on human to do what is right or what is wrong according to their decisions and they will face the consequences of the choice they made
@@TheLunablackheart She did tell him the truth, that the japanese stranger was hunting him, the xaman was working with the japanase, and she was only trying to save his family. The policeman just didn't believe her.
@@TheLunablackheart It was a test for the father. He didn't know what was right and what was wrong. The father didnt believe in the angel and turned into the dark side (He dropped the old guys off the cliff). When the father lost faith in the angel , she couldn't protect the daughter anymore ...
symbiotic/mutualistic relationship. the devil gets his hit by killing people and the shaman earns money when people call him for exorcism. It's a win win for both. so my theory is the shaman takes the demon to different villages and then earn money form those villagers.
Makes so much sense! When they met, we can see that they ain't exactly master student relationship or anything like that. They don't necessarily like each other, but they are just working together. Damn.
this is backed up by the fact when the protagonist asks the Japanese man what he's doing in the town, he replies he's travelling. everything he says is of substance but he can't reveal everything because the devil inside him restricts
@Emularis no witnesses to say he failed at the job, no witnesses to say he did a great job. Unless he leaves fake yelp reviews.... but not even the devil is evil enough to do that
As you see near the end of the film, when the Shaman tries to drive away, he is not associated with the Japanese man out of free will, but is bound to him.
When you think about it, this movie is basically a Japanese demon and his familiar on vacation in Korea who encounter and battle with a powerful good spirit.
What I got: 1: The Japanese Man is the Devil. 2: The Shaman is a servant of the Devil (willing or unwilling) 3: During the exorcism, the Shaman was doing nothing but irritating the girl/demon, passing off his ritual as legitimate. 4: The Japanese man is harmed in his own ritual because the Angel is outside his house, hexxing him back, as seen when he awakens on the ground. 5: The Devil is frightened when he leaps from the mountain because The Devil is afraid of the Angel, not his chasers. 6: The Shaman, when he sees that he and his Devil Master are up against an Angel, tries to place all the blame on her and cast doubt on her motives to have Jong-Goo turn on her, which he does. In this case, The Devil succeeds. - the raven in the jar was a ward to keep away the Devil. The Shaman senses (or is told where to look) and removes it - the ravens feast on the Devil's dog to warn and intimidate the Devil, sending a sign that the village is being protected. - The Devil was photographing his "living" victims to capture their mortal souls before they were infected with demonic souls and died, and then photographing them again when they were fully consumed by said demonic souls and "dead" to reanimate the demons within and sow destruction. - In the end, evil wins and good loses because of doubt and lack of faith.
hey, I wanna know why did the devil make the dead man(who died in a car accident) undead? Also, was the Japanese man's dead body over the highway an illusion to make the father commit a sin?
@@khushikothari2440 because devil was trying to capture his(the dead guy in the car) his soul, but Angle(white dress girl) interrupt him while he was doing his rituals.(so the dead guy soul was stuck )
@@staleplastic265 the Japanese man might actually be innocent before they run over him allowing the demon to possess his corpse. There's even a theory that the woman in white is actually the villain, and this ending shows her influence spreading out of the town now that the Japanese man is with the other shaman unaware that he's possessed.
@@dimitrescu182 i agreed with this comment because when the japanese guy and the korean guy in the tunnel before the japanese guy turn into a devil it says devil habe no bone. He might probably being possed after the old man died
@@txzhanis2185 I think just like the Korean shaman, the reason why he's taking photos of the dead is to purify them and prevent them from coming back possessed by a demon/the woman in white, and when he got run over by the cop no one was there to purify him, his body is then possessed.
@@dimitrescu182 i really wanna see the twisted part of making choices. I wanna see how it turns out if the woman in white were true like she said before they dont listen the whole family dies before the cop dies
While watching the movie, I suspected the shaman is connected to the old japanese man. I think the shaman is also a japanese. A scene where the shaman is changing clothes, he wears underwear same as the japanese man.
I actually believe the shaman at first😅..but when he perform the ritual involving animal sacrifices and blood with a happy face, started to doubt him. While the women in white, immediately thought she is not a human or normal human when she can sneak up on the japanese man in the forest..Lol.
I honestly much prefer this ending, I get the idea was for us to interpret who’s evil but all the clues were there in the theatrical final scene and this deleted ending just wraps everything else up quite nicely.
This movie gets alot of acclaim, and i did enjoy it. However it find it odd people are accepting a story thats only a mystery because key details are left out for it to be pure speculation. And the biggest offender of this is that the father sinned for killing the Japanese man... your asking an audience to guess far too much for that sequence to be true, because the evidence presented by the movie is that the Japanese man is possessed or a full fledged demon from the beginning.
@@jasonu3741 The japanese man was protecting the village from the bodies becoming zombies up until he was killed and his own body was possessed. So yes, the father sinned by killing the man who was trying to save everyone. The woman in white is the evil spirit as stated clearly by the shaman towards the end, she's wearing the possessions of all the victims BEFORE they get possessed. But everyone believes she must be innocent because she's cute, wears white, and has some biblical references thrown in(a usurper religion in korea btw, not some universal symbol of benevolence). People keep calling her a protective spirit despite the fact that she protected literally nobody, proving how effective her deception was.
It's not in the beginning nor the ending of the movie, it's just the answer for who's the good and the bad. That's why they didn't show this scene in the movie.
So the shaman and demon work together. Demon collecting souls, shaman (who probably sold his soul at some point, with the changing from all white to all black clothes scene) raking in the dough for fake rituals that actually help not hurt said demon. The good, land spirit is left unable to go beyond the territory she protects to stop them from "traveling" and doing this to another town or avenge the people from her town. This actually would've been great as an after credit scene but then it's fun to piece great movies together and God knows it was already long enough.
The part about selling his soul makes sooooooo much sense as we see in the movie the Shaman wears expensive/namebrand clothes, he got paid a pretty penny for performing the ritual, and the grandmother heard about him saying he is well known. Meaning he sold his soul for money and fame perhaps.
is this alternate ending supposed to be what happens after everything? that just makes it sadder. i thought this was one of the endings that actually begin before the movie starts (giving you more context or so) but now the spirit is watching them helplessly preying on other people that are not within her protection
@@SUGAR-mc4em The devil takes the photo of the victims before they die, and the shaman takes the photo after they die. It's kind of like the devil picks the victims and the shaman collects their souls.
Watching the ending of this movie was like, “Wait a second, wait a second. Don’t fade to black. Don’t you dare. Stop. No. [fades to black] YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS. WHAT HAPPENED. I DON’T UNDERSTAND. AAAAAAAAAA!”
I had this very feeling! Still I loved the movie. But seriously, this ending + some korean explanation of their culture makes this cut ending 100% better.
@@selvaadhithya9052 Im also new to this , but ive watched these ones before and they are on par with the wailing (Ps all of these are mystery thriller) oldboy silenced parasite forgotten I saw the devil Ive watched only these until now , and they all are 10/10.
@@laveenr it was a test of faith. She tested all the other people who also got infected, and they all failed, which is why their entire families were killed by the demon. She can only help so much, she even told him that she laid a trap for the demon.
@@thuhuong8838 A good ending for me is an ending that leaves no loopholes. The good side does not necessarily have to win for the ending to be "good". This is not Disney, kid.
I just watched the wailing and then immediately watched this and now i feel complete. Excellent movie, outstanding writer/director. Thanks for posting this
it just closes the movie out with no room of interpretation , with what we have now we dont have a clear answer and people can understand what they wanna .
South Korea really got amazing Child Actors and Actresses. They are just amazing to watch. I wondered how are they taught or trained... to act so naturally in front of camera.
The old man behind the woman is a fascinating metaphor. The woman never interacts with him or acknowledges him and the Japanese man looks at him with disgust and fear. He could almost be a symbol for God, showing that the woman has God on her side and is without sin, in a way that the main character wasn’t. Just my interpretation at least!
Interesting! And yes the Japanese man holding out the candy for the little girl is temptation towards the darkness. He can only hold out his hand and try to tempt us and all we have to do is reach out and grab it. But the goodness of the mother saves her daughter from that decision.
oh wow I think you may be right. I looked up the scene from the film with him and I can't tell for sure whether it's the same actor or not! love this theory tho!@@Filbi
Glad they didn’t have this in the movie. It was clear enough what was going on the other way but it left a little more to the imagination on what the Demon and the Shaman’s partnership was.
The director intended the viewers to bite the bait as well as the protagonist. We blame him for his indecisive actions bringing disastrous result but if we put the gun towards us we are no better than him judging who is who and who we should trust. That is what the devil in the cave said. Whether he is good or bad all depends on us thinking. The director cast the bait and we miserably bit it just like the main character did lol Good job director! You made us all idiot
yeah i also doubted of the girl for a momment but i was being deceived by what the chaman said but on the begiinning he was nit a holy man taxing so hight his services and doing all the pagan stuff waht the ritual that they did not accpt was the ending one as it can be interpreted that she offered to save everyone but also failed their task. And also who said hat she made amulets with the crows they welll may have already planted all the evidence
No, the real bait is that nearly everyone believes the woman in white wasn't the evil spirit even though she clearly is if you put aside your preconceived biases.
I agree with this, and a way to ground it in the movie's reality is to think of the Japanese man prior to this. He's a devout man in his own way. It may not be Christianity. It's quite primal. But he is a devout believer. And when confronted by a doubtful man who attempts to murder him. The devil gives him the power to protect himself
Starting around 0:51, I love the subtle zoom in between both old men. It seems like the Japanese man is looking for a new target while waiting for his ride.
It's also meant to imply that the old man is a believer. He comes from a time where many were pious. His belief warded off the devil's temptations. But the Japanese man was unfazed at the defeat. As he knew the older generation fades, the modern generation will be his.
This short video can really just clear the whole ambiguous ending of the movie. No need to watch any explanation video really if you just watch this short clip of 3 minutes. No wonder why the director chose to cut this from the movie which clearly would eliminate the element of ambiguity. Great movie!
Just watched this movie! loved it!!! I just wish the protector made more of an effort to warn the village about the demon or revealing that the shaman is in with the demon...I knew something wasn’t adding up when the demon straight up didn’t die after being thrown off the cliff hehe. there’s so many beautiful shots in the movie thumbs up to the cinematographer and director :)
The thing is, God or the protective spirits, will never tell you what to do/ what not to do, directly. You need to take the hints and make your own choices based on what you deem is right. In this movie, the father simply made the wrong choice, and unfortunately for him, there's no second chance.
I have to say I was still confused about the shaman's role in all this twisted shit. I did understand the woman in white tried to protect them and of course it is obvious "the Japanese" is a demon / the devil / incarnation of evil, but as the shaman drops the pictures from his car's trunk, I was like "what". One has to admit you really have to keep focused on this story. I loved it at any rate, one of the best movies i've watched lately.
The thing that confused me was the role of the shaman (not the oni / demon). I was just wondering if he sucked at his job and got tricked or he was also evil. This ending makes it clear. [ Taking pictures of people that have gone bad, mad, died, doesn't always = evil. Cause even some exorcists / shamans / white witches do take pictures for their records. ]
Now I see why this scene was deleted from the film. If it was there then the movie would have become quite apparent that the Japanese man and the shaman were connected and the girl was not the bad one in the film.
The whole shot at 1:25 has a lot going on. Notice the left side is lined with these withered trees, and dominated by taller trees in the background. Notice how the left side of the road has horizontal breaks almost like a ladder. Notice the right side is lined with electric poles. And also notice the symbols. The pole on the left side is like an upside down cross, and the right side's electric poles are crosses. What this scene tells you is that the devil's work is done here; the trees are withered. So he walks across the street, and utilizing humanity's technological advancements, he'll climb jacob's ladder corrupting and destroying the doubtful to spread his evil. The thing that's so weird is the shot at 2:07. It doesn't even make logical sense if you compare the 2 shots. She's not even staring at the direction at which the car is driving towards. She's staring at the direction at which the ladder begins (or ends?). The side she emerges from is a union of both sides from the previous shot, it has the ladder, the upside down cross-like pole, the electric poles, and withered trees. On top of that if we're supposed to be viewing this shit as her looking ahead of the car driving away, then the upside down cross-like pole should be showing us what's on the signs if it was properly oriented. Dunno why the second shot makes no logical sense. Why do you think this is?
There's definitely some symbolism, like how the mother and kid are sheltered/protected. The shaman drove by towards the side close to other people, but the antagonist was able to cross it because the shaman was willing to offer a 'ride.' The antagonist had this smug face as he disengaged, staring at the 'older man' who seemed to know what was up. About her position, it seems the shot emphasizes she is there to stay to protect the living, whereas both stops are temporary positions. A representation of good and bad spirits and humans, and a spirit that could possibly stuck in the living.
Just rewatch the scene when the woman meet the police man for the 1st time & look it in that perspective Note:The girl is already dead when the father asked the lady in white about her. She is also taking the victims things to purify or something so they can be free & that's where the father lost it and as the lady said everyone will perish
So I didn't see this until now but the opening scene of the movie where he was catching the fish with two hooks made it clearer that these two were working together. This wouldn't have been a good ending, the theatrical one was a miles better.
This extended scene reminiscent of the ending to 'The Usual Suspect' in a way. Both films had the antagonists, who are in mystical proportions, misleading the main character into falsely assuming another character as the culprit. In the end, the antagonist (In this case, quite literally the Devil) reveals himself and is picked up by his associate in a car (Here, the Shaman takes the place of Kobayashi).
This makes it clear that the Shaman and the Japanese man aka the Devil was working together. Other then that the original ending was a pretty clear ending and in my opinion a much more impactful and stunning ending to an amazing horror movie.
I am having insomnia because of this movie okay.Not that I am complaining it’s a great movie and I loved it even tho I didn’t understand what was going on and the Ending was even more confusing at the time.But now I have totally understood everything and I am glad they didn’t stuck with this alternative ending because if they had then it would have lost the Soul of the movie.
The two shamans are good. someone said that the japanese man was innocent and not evil until one time he falls from a hill getting run over by the truck. Thrown down the bridge. There was no shaman around to take a picture and perform a cleansing ritual to prevent it from being posessed by an demon/evil spirit. Il Gwang the other shaman didnt realize the japanese man was dead. Then the japanese man's dead body is completely able to be posessed since no cleansing ritual has been performes to that body. In the end you see him slowly transform into a demon because its the demon that possessed the dead body of the Japanese man. The woman in white originally wanted the Japanese man dead so she can posess the body with an evil spirit/demon. Her wish came true, the man got completely posessed. The woman in white caused jong goo's family to die. Since the daughter named Hyo-jin had got no more protection for posession since the Japanese man already died and got posessed by demon. So the evil spirit inside Hyo-Jin completely took control of her, looking at the knife, stabbing the entire family. Another thing the Japanese man did was to perform a cleansing ritual of the dead body in the crashed car. He failed the ritual since both them got interrupted. The dead body became posessed and turned into zombie. It bites people but it wont turn them into zombie too because its only a posession of a demon.
I won't lie. 😳I had to watch this movie twice to catch everything. I was just a bit confused because I simply didn't understand the shaman aspect. 🤔After the second watch and paying even closer attention to certain parts, I fell in love with it. 😍I really like this scene though. 👻I only wish we could've seen what became of the deacon after his cave encounter with the stranger. That for me was the most sinister scene. 👹
It would have been so much easy if the woman in white gave all information with more clarity rather than sounding suspicious. Couldn't convince the main character to stay
Well we would all have done the same. I would say that the woman was pretty blantant. Said the two men are together , or that the old man was a ghost. The thing is, good spirits dont usually have the capability to do more than that. As they say, they may show the path but you are the one who has to walk. Similarly here, the policeman had to make the decision as to who to believe. She did even say to have faith in her. It was on him to trust or not to trust.
I never experienced anything like this, having more interest with the movie I watched. Everytime I watch a movie, I never do a further research/reading others' comments/watching reviews, etc. But this movie really hooked my interest. (Uhh, thanks mom, I'm a grown-up now...)
Just based on the Director`s interview.
In Korea, there is an old superstition that every each area have a ghost who protects the people of the village. They call it "Tochack-ryung" means ghost who stick in the land. So the woman here is a kind of good ghost who is fated to protect the village. She wanted to protect her village from that evil spirit. This is why she was wearing victim`s stuff like cloths, hairpin.
The shaman is connected to the old japanese man. He is also a japanese. A scene where the shaman is changing clothes, he wore the same underwear as the japanese man. Why shaman does all of this is because he tricks the people of the village and earn money through it.
Japanese man is possessed by an evil. Sometimes he is just a normal person and that’s why he was crying at the cliff scene.
While the shaman is performing the ritual, the Japanese man is also suffering - Director said it in the interview, that wasn’t the same time event. The director wanted to make the audience a little bit confused.
Anyway this movie has a quite simple story line but the director cut and slice some scenes and mix it together and that’s why it makes this movie harder to understand.
Based on Director Hong-jin, Na`s interview
this should be the highest voted comment....so much clear now
I believe the japanese man was hurt doing the ritual not because of the shaman but because the victim which he took a photo of is still alive..not sure tho
What about the mushroom and hallucination part ? What was that all about ?
@@iamgar6age i believe it was just another police theory of why the killings take place since that 1 guy who was possessed that killed his family was known to use the mushrooms.. and they thought his hallucinations made him do it
Thanks. Made it clearer
" _The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist._ "
- The Usual Suspects.
and he doesn't
@@hoonda5908 exist
@@hoonda5908 same, just got done watching it. waiting a while til the hype was over
Irfan khan said these lines in Movie Choclates too...💙💙💙
Even I felt protected when women in white was on the screen
I actually feel sad, cause she tried to protect her village and sadly she failed.
true
Why? She sucks at protecting anything
The Awakening ́Ω` she didn’t suck. They all had a choice. As Diety/angel you can only act as a teacher and a guide. Getting to directly involved would’ve been an attack on their personal growth
LIVE.PRAY.REPEAT 🙏🏻
@@jesusiscoming9252 So demonic spirits get to attack people all day with no limit but a protective deity can't do her job and protect her people because she might interfere with their "personal growth"? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
It also shows the demon trying to get one last child before leaving town. Luckily the mom prevented her from approaching him.
The really neat thing about this alternate ending scene is that it ties up almost all of the loose ends with not one word of dialogue.
It does not explain why the Japanese man is alive.
because hes the devil lol, you literally get that within the original movie
The mother calls for the girl as she crosses the street.
@@TheCommunicationCoach you know what the guy means there’s barely any dialogue in this scene
@@hughxr Communication is so much more than simple 'dialogue,' I'm glad you brought the issue up as it's important to know. Non-verbal Comm is approximately 90% of all Comm.
I like how this movie put together multiple religious beliefs on the supernatural (christian, japanese, and local korean superstition) like they existed in the same realm. I don't think I've ever seen any other supernatural film like it
they do exist in the same realm. I was born a christian, i've been in a room where at a christian retreat where 2 people were laying hands on someone as they were praying for them, the person being prayed for swears up and down that because they were prayed for, they were healed of this pain in their back that had been going on for years.
In another incident, one of my good friends is buddhist from Thailand, very devout to his religion. They have a shrine for the "house guardian". One time I was at my friend's house I saw "someone" assuming it's my friend walk into another room with the lights off. I followed "him" into the same room and asked him what's taking him so long to turn the lights on. No answer. As my eyes adjusted to the dark room I noticed I was standing right in front of one of the shrines. I ran out of there and my friend was in the kitchen and i told him what happened and he said "oh that's the house guardian" very nonchalantly.
Interestingly enough, the Bible affirms the existence of other cosmic beings besides the Most High. They're framed as selfish, capricious, deceptive and just overall malignant. They are also completely powerless before God/Jesus.
And as you'll note in other folklore/religions/mythology, they often openly acknowledge the self-interested nature of their own pantheons.
God is also demonstrated as not only the most powerful of all of these beings as well as the Creator, but also as honest, trustworthy, compassionate, forgiving, just, righteous, patient, merciful and extremely loving. As you'll notice, though, He's very much in a league of His own and doesn't like His creation walking around acting as though He is rivaled by any other
This film was mind-blowing
poor her.. she is the deity / angel that protects the village in the shadows..
she lost just because the father broke her trap to find his daughter which ends up killing all the family members..
She lost because she can't fucking communicate like a human being. Her plan sucked and she bet everything on biggest loser father. Great fucking job spirit lady, you are worst at protecting villages.
@@NeonUsui I laughed so hard at this. Funny comment, but also true. All she had to do was tell him the truth and I feel like there was a much bigger chance that he would have believed her. COMMUNICATE SIS
@@TheLunablackheart In all religions,all deity tell the truth but forbid to be directly involved with the devil's working.The devil may seduce human and the deity will hint human about that but will not help directly.All must be human's believe what is right or what is wrong.That all depend on human to do what is right or what is wrong according to their decisions and they will face the consequences of the choice they made
@@TheLunablackheart She did tell him the truth, that the japanese stranger was hunting him, the xaman was working with the japanase, and she was only trying to save his family. The policeman just didn't believe her.
@@TheLunablackheart It was a test for the father. He didn't know what was right and what was wrong. The father didnt believe in the angel and turned into the dark side (He dropped the old guys off the cliff). When the father lost faith in the angel , she couldn't protect the daughter anymore ...
symbiotic/mutualistic relationship. the devil gets his hit by killing people and the shaman earns money when people call him for exorcism. It's a win win for both. so my theory is the shaman takes the demon to different villages and then earn money form those villagers.
Makes so much sense! When they met, we can see that they ain't exactly master student relationship or anything like that. They don't necessarily like each other, but they are just working together. Damn.
this is backed up by the fact when the protagonist asks the Japanese man what he's doing in the town, he replies he's travelling. everything he says is of substance but he can't reveal everything because the devil inside him restricts
@Emularis no witnesses to say he failed at the job, no witnesses to say he did a great job.
Unless he leaves fake yelp reviews.... but not even the devil is evil enough to do that
As you see near the end of the film, when the Shaman tries to drive away, he is not associated with the Japanese man out of free will, but is bound to him.
When you think about it, this movie is basically a Japanese demon and his familiar on vacation in Korea who encounter and battle with a powerful good spirit.
What I got:
1: The Japanese Man is the Devil.
2: The Shaman is a servant of the Devil (willing or unwilling)
3: During the exorcism, the Shaman was doing nothing but irritating the girl/demon, passing off his ritual as legitimate.
4: The Japanese man is harmed in his own ritual because the Angel is outside his house, hexxing him back, as seen when he awakens on the ground.
5: The Devil is frightened when he leaps from the mountain because The Devil is afraid of the Angel, not his chasers.
6: The Shaman, when he sees that he and his Devil Master are up against an Angel, tries to place all the blame on her and cast doubt on her motives to have Jong-Goo turn on her, which he does. In this case, The Devil succeeds.
- the raven in the jar was a ward to keep away the Devil. The Shaman senses (or is told where to look) and removes it
- the ravens feast on the Devil's dog to warn and intimidate the Devil, sending a sign that the village is being protected.
- The Devil was photographing his "living" victims to capture their mortal souls before they were infected with demonic souls and died, and then photographing them again when they were fully consumed by said demonic souls and "dead" to reanimate the demons within and sow destruction.
- In the end, evil wins and good loses because of doubt and lack of faith.
True
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hey, I wanna know why did the devil make the dead man(who died in a car accident) undead? Also, was the Japanese man's dead body over the highway an illusion to make the father commit a sin?
@@khushikothari2440 because devil was trying to capture his(the dead guy in the car) his soul, but Angle(white dress girl) interrupt him while he was doing his rituals.(so the dead guy soul was stuck )
@@rm.p Also, was the Japanese man's dead body over the highway an illusion to make the father commit a sin?
This makes it 100% clear who was lying and who was telling the truth.
how is him turning into the actual devil not clear? Lol.
@@staleplastic265 the Japanese man might actually be innocent before they run over him allowing the demon to possess his corpse. There's even a theory that the woman in white is actually the villain, and this ending shows her influence spreading out of the town now that the Japanese man is with the other shaman unaware that he's possessed.
@@dimitrescu182 i agreed with this comment because when the japanese guy and the korean guy in the tunnel before the japanese guy turn into a devil it says devil habe no bone. He might probably being possed after the old man died
@@txzhanis2185 I think just like the Korean shaman, the reason why he's taking photos of the dead is to purify them and prevent them from coming back possessed by a demon/the woman in white, and when he got run over by the cop no one was there to purify him, his body is then possessed.
@@dimitrescu182 i really wanna see the twisted part of making choices. I wanna see how it turns out if the woman in white were true like she said before they dont listen the whole family dies before the cop dies
While watching the movie, I suspected the shaman is connected to the old japanese man. I think the shaman is also a japanese. A scene where the shaman is changing clothes, he wears underwear same as the japanese man.
Yup
I actually believe the shaman at first😅..but when he perform the ritual involving animal sacrifices and blood with a happy face, started to doubt him. While the women in white, immediately thought she is not a human or normal human when she can sneak up on the japanese man in the forest..Lol.
Maybe shaman is son of old japanese
All the Japanese have same underwear
Ikr
I honestly much prefer this ending, I get the idea was for us to interpret who’s evil but all the clues were there in the theatrical final scene and this deleted ending just wraps everything else up quite nicely.
This movie gets alot of acclaim, and i did enjoy it. However it find it odd people are accepting a story thats only a mystery because key details are left out for it to be pure speculation.
And the biggest offender of this is that the father sinned for killing the Japanese man... your asking an audience to guess far too much for that sequence to be true, because the evidence presented by the movie is that the Japanese man is possessed or a full fledged demon from the beginning.
@@jasonu3741 The japanese man was protecting the village from the bodies becoming zombies up until he was killed and his own body was possessed. So yes, the father sinned by killing the man who was trying to save everyone. The woman in white is the evil spirit as stated clearly by the shaman towards the end, she's wearing the possessions of all the victims BEFORE they get possessed. But everyone believes she must be innocent because she's cute, wears white, and has some biblical references thrown in(a usurper religion in korea btw, not some universal symbol of benevolence). People keep calling her a protective spirit despite the fact that she protected literally nobody, proving how effective her deception was.
I don't like this ending because it does not explain why the Japanese man is alive.
Wrapping this up nicely is overrated - ambiguity is best.
man the fact that "evil" spirit (japanese man) has such an unquenchable desire to hurt and destroy is terrifying.
It's not in the beginning nor the ending of the movie, it's just the answer for who's the good and the bad. That's why they didn't show this scene in the movie.
Yes this is not an end of the movie
Will there be part 2?
that last scene when he clicks the camera my heart beat goes straight up with speed
So the shaman and demon work together. Demon collecting souls, shaman (who probably sold his soul at some point, with the changing from all white to all black clothes scene) raking in the dough for fake rituals that actually help not hurt said demon. The good, land spirit is left unable to go beyond the territory she protects to stop them from "traveling" and doing this to another town or avenge the people from her town. This actually would've been great as an after credit scene but then it's fun to piece great movies together and God knows it was already long enough.
The part about selling his soul makes sooooooo much sense as we see in the movie the Shaman wears expensive/namebrand clothes, he got paid a pretty penny for performing the ritual, and the grandmother heard about him saying he is well known. Meaning he sold his soul for money and fame perhaps.
is this alternate ending supposed to be what happens after everything? that just makes it sadder. i thought this was one of the endings that actually begin before the movie starts (giving you more context or so)
but now the spirit is watching them helplessly preying on other people that are not within her protection
@@gamaliel5584 Yep, it's an alternate dark ending to the dark ending we've already got.
@@SUGAR-mc4em The devil takes the photo of the victims before they die, and the shaman takes the photo after they die. It's kind of like the devil picks the victims and the shaman collects their souls.
After watching this video, I can sleep tight now...
Same here...same here haha
Same, i thought i wouldnt be scared but after watching i kept thinking about that demon face especially his eyes
Same😭
Lol those demon eyes gave me nightmares for almost 2 weeks.
Why is your name arie puta
Loved the Woman in White
She's hot
She’s probably over hundreds of years old... I’d tap too
@@montykunwar9378 yeah she was hot
@@chimedemon little young for me. I prefer my spirits 350+
Yeah but she is stooopid.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A MASTERPIECE. A MUST WATCH MOVIE.
I wanted to see it back then. But, I slept on it for years. Haha. It bothered me. That's actually a good thing.
I watched it... It's ending was pretty terrifying😢..didn't get any conclusion
Edgy movie, chaotic conclusion
Watching the ending of this movie was like, “Wait a second, wait a second. Don’t fade to black. Don’t you dare. Stop. No. [fades to black] YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS. WHAT HAPPENED. I DON’T UNDERSTAND. AAAAAAAAAA!”
Well, I understood it but fuck... It's brutal.
fucking watched this shit till 1am and the fucking ending left me angry, confused, i couldn't sleep at all that night.
You are exactly right
This is me 90% of the time when I watch movies.
I had this very feeling! Still I loved the movie.
But seriously, this ending + some korean explanation of their culture makes this cut ending 100% better.
I am addicted to these Korean type movies.They truly are masterpieces!
will u suggest me similar to this, actually am a fan for the wailing
@@selvaadhithya9052 Im also new to this , but ive watched these ones before and they are on par with the wailing (Ps all of these are mystery thriller)
oldboy
silenced
parasite
forgotten
I saw the devil
Ive watched only these until now , and they all are 10/10.
@@naman.0316 FORGOTTEN THE BEST EVER MOVIE WITH MANY PLOT TWIST !
@@nasitambah4911 which one?
@@FAF345 the handmaiden
I felt sorry for the woman in white coz she failed to protect her village 😭😭😭
i know bruhhhh ://///
I think the man failed to have faith in her and so he failed. She did all she could, but in the end it was decided by his lack of trust.
@@stevenobiol8295 how can you trust, she is just a stranger.
@@laveenr it was a test of faith. She tested all the other people who also got infected, and they all failed, which is why their entire families were killed by the demon. She can only help so much, she even told him that she laid a trap for the demon.
The real mystery is, who is the "Old Woman" the woman in white keeps referring to?
I like this ending a lot. It is so much clearer and gives relief to the viewer.
What relief man ? Two villains gone, continue their heinous deeds. Hardly a good ending for me
@@thuhuong8838 A good ending for me is an ending that leaves no loopholes. The good side does not necessarily have to win for the ending to be "good". This is not Disney, kid.
As soon as the shaman asked for 10k as payment for the ritual, I knew that dude was evil. Gadamn charlatan. 😤
I just watched the wailing and then immediately watched this and now i feel complete. Excellent movie, outstanding writer/director. Thanks for posting this
Man this clears all my doubt, thanks for the upload.
So the Japanese guy turning into the Devil and the Shaman taking pictures of dead people was not enough ? lmao.
@@virthuss no Mr.Nolan that was not enough for me !
They shouldn't delete this scenes, it is perfect as it is.
it just closes the movie out with no room of interpretation , with what we have now we dont have a clear answer and people can understand what they wanna .
if director Hong Jin na wanted kindness?
it's wrong
he's a pervert
South Korea really got amazing Child Actors and Actresses. They are just amazing to watch.
I wondered how are they taught or trained... to act so naturally in front of camera.
they going to acting academy..the adult also usuaylly enroll in acting department in Korean universtiy
The old man behind the woman is a fascinating metaphor. The woman never interacts with him or acknowledges him and the Japanese man looks at him with disgust and fear. He could almost be a symbol for God, showing that the woman has God on her side and is without sin, in a way that the main character wasn’t. Just my interpretation at least!
I agree seems like the Old man wasn't there or could sense the Japanese mans intentions or something
Interesting! And yes the Japanese man holding out the candy for the little girl is temptation towards the darkness. He can only hold out his hand and try to tempt us and all we have to do is reach out and grab it. But the goodness of the mother saves her daughter from that decision.
Maybe he's the guardian ghost of that region like the girl in white was in the protagonist's village
The old man was the Christian priest from earlier, wasn't he? Or am I mistaken?
oh wow I think you may be right. I looked up the scene from the film with him and I can't tell for sure whether it's the same actor or not! love this theory tho!@@Filbi
I think this would've worked really well as a post-credit scene.
Man, everytime I hear about this movie i get chills. Watching this in a quite theatre was one of the best decisions and experiences i had.
Alternate ending? More like the beginning of the movie
could be I think the same way.
Or the beginning of a sequel.
Satan yes
good point
This wasnt in the movie
Plot Twist: You've been decieved again by this scene
Exactly my thought 😂
Glad they didn’t have this in the movie. It was clear enough what was going on the other way but it left a little more to the imagination on what the Demon and the Shaman’s partnership was.
Candy = Devil's Temptation
centerline = It means you should never cross.
This movie is phenomenal. I side with the decision to leave this scene out of it, however.
Why
The director intended the viewers to bite the bait as well as the protagonist. We blame him for his indecisive actions bringing disastrous result but if we put the gun towards us we are no better than him judging who is who and who we should trust.
That is what the devil in the cave said. Whether he is good or bad all depends on us thinking. The director cast the bait and we miserably bit it just like the main character did lol
Good job director! You made us all idiot
yeah i also doubted of the girl for a momment but i was being deceived by what the chaman said but on the begiinning he was nit a holy man taxing so hight his services and doing all the pagan stuff waht the ritual that they did not accpt was the ending one as it can be interpreted that she offered to save everyone but also failed their task. And also who said hat she made amulets with the crows they welll may have already planted all the evidence
Right
The director tricked the audience
It was a bit too much considering how he showed the shaman praying to buddha after the failed exorcism
No, the real bait is that nearly everyone believes the woman in white wasn't the evil spirit even though she clearly is if you put aside your preconceived biases.
I agree with this, and a way to ground it in the movie's reality is to think of the Japanese man prior to this. He's a devout man in his own way. It may not be Christianity. It's quite primal. But he is a devout believer. And when confronted by a doubtful man who attempts to murder him. The devil gives him the power to protect himself
I am french and this movie is the GREATEST THRILLER I'VE EVER SEEN.
Felt sorry for the woman (good ghost), she failed to save another family. Great movie! complex but very interesting.
Starting around 0:51, I love the subtle zoom in between both old men. It seems like the Japanese man is looking for a new target while waiting for his ride.
It's also meant to imply that the old man is a believer. He comes from a time where many were pious. His belief warded off the devil's temptations. But the Japanese man was unfazed at the defeat. As he knew the older generation fades, the modern generation will be his.
This short video can really just clear the whole ambiguous ending of the movie. No need to watch any explanation video really if you just watch this short clip of 3 minutes. No wonder why the director chose to cut this from the movie which clearly would eliminate the element of ambiguity. Great movie!
This movie is absolutely amazing!
Good to see this in retrospect but glad they stuck with the original ending, more ambiguous.
Just watched this movie! loved it!!! I just wish the protector made more of an effort to warn the village about the demon or revealing that the shaman is in with the demon...I knew something wasn’t adding up when the demon straight up didn’t die after being thrown off the cliff hehe. there’s so many beautiful shots in the movie thumbs up to the cinematographer and director :)
Now I completely understand the ending. thank you
Who is real villan
What a magnificent movie!
This makes me want to have this movie a sequel.
I see why they cut this ending out of the movie because it makes things a little too obvious. It would of been a perfect after credits scene though.
The thing is, God or the protective spirits, will never tell you what to do/ what not to do, directly. You need to take the hints and make your own choices based on what you deem is right. In this movie, the father simply made the wrong choice, and unfortunately for him, there's no second chance.
I don't understand how the original ending is confusing you guys
Ikr the old man just transforms into the fucking swamp thing. It's pretty clear
the old man turns into a fucking demon u can see from his look, so the white woman is a good spirit
I have to say I was still confused about the shaman's role in all this twisted shit. I did understand the woman in white tried to protect them and of course it is obvious "the Japanese" is a demon / the devil / incarnation of evil, but as the shaman drops the pictures from his car's trunk, I was like "what". One has to admit you really have to keep focused on this story. I loved it at any rate, one of the best movies i've watched lately.
@@moussetache1815 the shaman is probably working with the Japanese man all along
The thing that confused me was the role of the shaman (not the oni / demon).
I was just wondering if he sucked at his job and got tricked or he was also evil.
This ending makes it clear.
[ Taking pictures of people that have gone bad, mad, died, doesn't always = evil. Cause even some exorcists / shamans / white witches do take pictures for their records. ]
Why did she have to be so cryptic and ominous? I didn’t know who to believe either.
This is quite easy but changed to complex version
I will never forget this movie 🎥
i usually hate movies with tragic endings but The Wailing's storyline and plot made up for that...
Thanks for upload.. awesome mimdfuck movie
ahh that was i waiting for
This scene is just wow.
man the fact that "evil" spirit (japanese man) has such an unquenchable desire to hurt and destroy is terrifying.
Now I see why this scene was deleted from the film. If it was there then the movie would have become quite apparent that the Japanese man and the shaman were connected and the girl was not the bad one in the film.
We want more movie like this 🤣🤣
It was clear before only that shaman was with devil when shaman took photos of dead family members in end ..
The whole shot at 1:25 has a lot going on. Notice the left side is lined with these withered trees, and dominated by taller trees in the background. Notice how the left side of the road has horizontal breaks almost like a ladder. Notice the right side is lined with electric poles. And also notice the symbols. The pole on the left side is like an upside down cross, and the right side's electric poles are crosses.
What this scene tells you is that the devil's work is done here; the trees are withered. So he walks across the street, and utilizing humanity's technological advancements, he'll climb jacob's ladder corrupting and destroying the doubtful to spread his evil.
The thing that's so weird is the shot at 2:07. It doesn't even make logical sense if you compare the 2 shots. She's not even staring at the direction at which the car is driving towards. She's staring at the direction at which the ladder begins (or ends?). The side she emerges from is a union of both sides from the previous shot, it has the ladder, the upside down cross-like pole, the electric poles, and withered trees. On top of that if we're supposed to be viewing this shit as her looking ahead of the car driving away, then the upside down cross-like pole should be showing us what's on the signs if it was properly oriented.
Dunno why the second shot makes no logical sense. Why do you think this is?
I'd say you are over analyzing
Are you an English teacher perhaps?
There's definitely some symbolism, like how the mother and kid are sheltered/protected. The shaman drove by towards the side close to other people, but the antagonist was able to cross it because the shaman was willing to offer a 'ride.' The antagonist had this smug face as he disengaged, staring at the 'older man' who seemed to know what was up. About her position, it seems the shot emphasizes she is there to stay to protect the living, whereas both stops are temporary positions. A representation of good and bad spirits and humans, and a spirit that could possibly stuck in the living.
Just rewatch the scene when the woman meet the police man for the 1st time & look it in that perspective
Note:The girl is already dead when the father asked the lady in white about her. She is also taking the victims things to purify or something so they can be free & that's where the father lost it and as the lady said everyone will perish
So I didn't see this until now but the opening scene of the movie where he was catching the fish with two hooks made it clearer that these two were working together.
This wouldn't have been a good ending, the theatrical one was a miles better.
Now i can sleep well
Well.. that explained how the girl knew those were in the same team. Thx.
The central yellow line is not to cross. He overcame it.
this movie have the highest numbers of blank stares
It must be ending. Because it clearly explains the story.
This extended scene reminiscent of the ending to 'The Usual Suspect' in a way.
Both films had the antagonists, who are in mystical proportions, misleading the main character into falsely assuming another character as the culprit. In the end, the antagonist (In this case, quite literally the Devil) reveals himself and is picked up by his associate in a car (Here, the Shaman takes the place of Kobayashi).
I've watched both, but thanks for pointing that out coz I never thought that way
This makes it clear that the Shaman and the Japanese man aka the Devil was working together. Other then that the original ending was a pretty clear ending and in my opinion a much more impactful and stunning ending to an amazing horror movie.
The most confusing yet thrilling movie I have ever watched
Ahhh so the woman in white was some kind of Local Deity or Guardian .. I get it now ! Freak the Complex ending got me thinking ! Phew
Her face is like mine in the original ending LOL
I am having insomnia because of this movie okay.Not that I am complaining it’s a great movie and I loved it even tho I didn’t understand what was going on and the Ending was even more confusing at the time.But now I have totally understood everything and I am glad they didn’t stuck with this alternative ending because if they had then it would have lost the Soul of the movie.
this may be the best movie that i ever saw 👍🏾 🎦
How am I only seeing this now?
Finally..know who the good and the evil character
I still don't understand😫
@@ainam7604 haha i feel u..im gonna watch it again
The two shamans are good. someone said that the japanese man was innocent and not evil until one time he falls from a hill getting run over by the truck. Thrown down the bridge. There was no shaman around to take a picture and perform a cleansing ritual to prevent it from being posessed by an demon/evil spirit. Il Gwang the other shaman didnt realize the japanese man was dead. Then the japanese man's dead body is completely able to be posessed since no cleansing ritual has been performes to that body. In the end you see him slowly transform into a demon because its the demon that possessed the dead body of the Japanese man. The woman in white originally wanted the Japanese man dead so she can posess the body with an evil spirit/demon. Her wish came true, the man got completely posessed.
The woman in white caused jong goo's family to die. Since the daughter named Hyo-jin had got no more protection for posession since the Japanese man already died and got posessed by demon. So the evil spirit inside Hyo-Jin completely took control of her, looking at the knife, stabbing the entire family.
Another thing the Japanese man did was to perform a cleansing ritual of the dead body in the crashed car. He failed the ritual since both them got interrupted. The dead body became posessed and turned into zombie. It bites people but it wont turn them into zombie too because its only a posession of a demon.
@@Michael01OnRBLXmore sorry its the other way around the woman is a good spirit protector of the village
More like "deleted scene" than alternate ending.
Now I understand this movie ending
One of the best Horror movies ever..
I felt bad for the white girl, she tried to help them
they didn't understand her
You can’t trust anyone...
Only ice cream.
@@NcrXnbi tf? 😅
Just finished this movie, glad I'm not the only one who has no idea what the hell happened at the ending lol
I saw this film last night. Amazing film but without this deleted ending
I won't lie. 😳I had to watch this movie twice to catch everything. I was just a bit confused because I simply didn't understand the shaman aspect. 🤔After the second watch and paying even closer attention to certain parts, I fell in love with it. 😍I really like this scene though. 👻I only wish we could've seen what became of the deacon after his cave encounter with the stranger. That for me was the most sinister scene. 👹
It would have been so much easy if the woman in white gave all information with more clarity rather than sounding suspicious. Couldn't convince the main character to stay
Well we would all have done the same. I would say that the woman was pretty blantant. Said the two men are together , or that the old man was a ghost. The thing is, good spirits dont usually have the capability to do more than that. As they say, they may show the path but you are the one who has to walk. Similarly here, the policeman had to make the decision as to who to believe. She did even say to have faith in her. It was on him to trust or not to trust.
wow what a movie...love it
"Don't let the devil deceive you" is probably the quote i can stick with it until the last.
This can be the ending or the begining
I think its climax portion, they were go to another town or village. End with next sequel portion!
Simply a horror masterpiece 💕🙏
A masterclass on horror.
This means it will be a part 2...for a proper end to d saga
I never experienced anything like this, having more interest with the movie I watched. Everytime I watch a movie, I never do a further research/reading others' comments/watching reviews, etc. But this movie really hooked my interest. (Uhh, thanks mom, I'm a grown-up now...)
It was like that for me when I seen the Matrix, and M. Nightshalaymadingdong's best movies from his hay day.
This clear many doubts
This is clean strain ending..
I like this type movies
Love from India 🇮🇳
This kinda makes more sense, why wasn't it in the movie, damn.
this scene is completely explained everything, haha.
This movie leaves too many questions unanswered imo