Sometimes the fire is so hot and so much damage is done that the cause can’t be determined , I have seen and heard of fires starting in a lap top or computer towers but the fire marshal can’t be 100% because there isn’t anything left but a pile of melted Metal and plastic which was unidentifiable
Don't want to push the fire into the un burned area of the structure. You want to attack it from the inside with hose lines and push it out in an offensive strategy.
@@medmark whatever would have been "pushed" inside still would have been less damage that the fire ripping for 10 more minutes unimpeded. An outside master stream should have been the very first thing setup. "Unburned attack" is antiquated.
@@medmarkThat nonsense was taught in the 1960’s. Modern fire techniques and tactics have disproven that myth. It’s 2024 get with the times son. You can’t “push” fire with a hose line. 🤦♂️
you know if they spent less time trying to cut through the roof and putting water in the fire. They can put the fire out a lot sooner. Second they really need to invest some tower ladders
sprinklers arent designed to necessarily put out a fire.. they are designed to buy time and also help to get a stop on a fire.. if the fire started above the ceiling level its p[ossible the code in that area doesnt require heads above a drop ceiling and so the fire could get a decent run before the ceilings come down and activate sprinklers.. in a raging fire scene from outside to see that the fire was pretty well contained to one quadrant says that the sprinklers did their job and helped to slow the fire anbd buy time for the fire crews inside to mount an interior attack (a succesful one by the looks of it).
Several years ago I painted the offices in that building. The LL was so cheap. No wonders!!! probably deferred maintenance, or no tenants, or he just set fire to it. Or maybe it was abandoned because nobody would rent it.
@@station079 A little bit, l spent more than 34 years otj on the east coast. 8 minutes can be a either a very long time on the foreground or depending on what's going on. Either way, in 8 minutes your ladder or tower should be in the air, hydrants grabbed, companies fed and if need be a deck gun running. All l see if on poor sob on the roof by himself! Everyone one has an opinion, is what it is long as they all home!
There’s several rigs outside and you see no one outside besides the roof guys, also the streams of water shooting out? Why would you put a deck through when crews are inside working interior?
You don't put water from the outside on to teams that are working interior but you can put water on the fire from outside before the interior crews are set up and ready to go and if they had done this the fire would have been knocked down far quicker and would not spread as much. Simple stuff really.
Whats the difference between a dead skunk in the middle of the road and a dead lawyer in the middle of the road? ans: Skid marks in front of the skunk.
Is there a reason after well over 3 mins of film time (which means way more in REAL time) they haven't put a master stream on this? And they're only doing roof ops? REALLY???
You see all the apparatus on scene and no one standing around? That means the crews are inside fighting fire. No need for a master stream if there are crews inside fighting fire. No need to mix offensive and defensive strategies.
In San Bernardino county they only do Master streams when they're doing defensive and there is several firefighters inside actually fighting the fire you do see a some moments where there's water shooting out from the inside
REALLY??? Are you seriously this ignorant? You should seriously consider NOT making comments about subjects you clearly know nothing about Doing such might prevent you from making such a fool of yourself
Master stream seriously? You would go defensive with only a single floor and a few offices involved? Oh, and the drone footage is pretty good showing the exterior from another platform for the IC to have additional information that may play a part in the tactics. It's pretty obvious that these guys are interior and setting up their fire attack. These guys in Berdoo know what their doing. Respectfully
Sort of difficult to tell by the video. Heck, the best hose usage in the entire video was a guy using a booster line putting out hotspots in the flower bed. Most of the action took place inside the building via an interior attack. San Bernardino County Fire's website stated that they responded with "13 Engines, 4 Truck Companies, three Chief Officers, an Air/Light Unit, a Medic Squad & three Fire Investigators. Colton, Rialto, Loma Linda also assisted each with an Engine Company."
I realize that a lot of companies, like law firms, don't work on weekends, but those are some really empty streets! The lack of traffic and spectators almost makes it look like a training exercise or that it's taking place at the training grounds.
Can anybody explain why there are no jets or ladder trucks attacking the fire from the side it’s raging?? For sure here in the uk they would be pouring water from above and jets from the ground. The fire just seems to be getting worse and worse with very little urgency of getting wet stuff on the hot stuff
So Cal city fire departments are anything but fire fighters. LA are the worse. Even the city I live near by can let a dumpster fire turn into a 5 alarm disaster.
As a European, I always wonder, why is cutting holes in a roof more important, then hose water into the flames...?? I see a lot of Firetrucks and Personnel, a Ladder bringing Fireman to the roof, but NOBODY hoses water from below....??? Only firefighting from the inside seems more dangerous, instead start spraying from the outside as well.....!! There are a lot of European Firefight vlogs on the Internet, so everybody can compare.....!
I'm an old fart, but I think they didn't position close to the heavily involved portion of the building because of the collapse potential. They entered the uninvolved part of the building and made an interior attack, into the wind, which is of course beyond their control. That looks like lightweight steel or "J-bar". Parellel chord teel trusses made from re-bar and steel channel. Trusses don't do well in fires. Nonody seems to know this crappy construction was the same thing used in the World Trade Center. There were all these nuts running around saying "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" like they knew something. Never read a book. There WERE NO steel beams, only the facade, It did pretty well though, all things considered. It was sticking way up after everything else was long gone. Good job San Bernardino and LA Co!
I agree with you as far as this one goes but there's about as many approaches to putting out a fire in the United States as there are fire departments.....
If you consider a commercial fire in a three story business structure... this is probably the most convenient location for a fire... the building is structurally sound, its isolated, the fires already vented itself, No exposures or proximity to other buildings an probably has a plug or two close by. Doesn't look like a 3 alarm turnout but its sufficient.
LOL, just goes to show you that even video can be misleading. That fire could have been much, much worse. Most of the action took place out of the view of the camera.
No master stream for some time 2. No dumping a monitor with second engine in 3. No aerial monitor in the front of the building, 3 Alarms where are the additional rigs?
To Andrew Rackauskas, You fight the fire from the unburned side. The FD was making a good INTERIOR attack on the fire floor against the wind. Just because YOU dont see a bunch of FFs in the street moving around doesnt mean they are not bustin their asses and taking a severe beating inside trying to make a good stop .. which they did. If you watch the vid closely, you can see a few good fire streams shooting out the building as the Engine Companys make the sweeps hitting the fire with their hose line. They are without a doubt kicking the fires ass. This isnt a parade, its a working fire job. The FD boys did a great job here knocking down the fire and gaining quick control with all with a tremendous amount of fire and fighting against the wind. Yeah i can say this, been in the fire service all my life just about over 55 years, paid and volunteer and a past Fire Chief. How about your experience?
From a FF in NZ - nice job considering how involved it was early on but why no aerial attack from upwind positioned from the intersection (especially in a resource-rich city like San Bernadino)?
Hay diggernator, thanks for the question. The reason is, you have crews inside trying to advance lines into the involved area and add to that, against the wind. A ladder pipe or master stream from an engines deck gun would drive the fire down on the guys and really fry their asses. It was explained to me years ago when i was a young pup fire chief at 26, having a master stream directed down or at you while in a building is like ordering an artiliary barage on yourself. Not a good move. However, the position of the fire couldnt have been at a better place: top floor, corner of the building and a fire resistive building. No doubt there was a heavy fire load in those rooms/offices for that amount of heavy fire volume. Their was a stick to the roof corner of B/C, (ladder trucks aerial), in the opposite rear corner. Escape for the roof ops crew if thr roof becomes untennable. The guys did good. Id of made the same calls. Stay safe my brother!
@@chief1945 I wouldn't have had the crew 'down stream' of the aerial, though our building code calls for mandatory sprinklers in buildings of this age so a different world really ... at the end of the day they did a good job and saved the bulk of the structure..... Cheers for the answer brother you stay safe too
Chief, like everything you said, I didn't see any interior attack lines going into the buildings. Was there hose cabinets in the building? Preserving the lower floors, from water damage? Where I am from, the amount of vsible exterior fire, would of required us to make an exterior attack, with a ladder tower.
An Electrical fire is a appliance that keeps you warm ..try using vocabulary along the lines of perhaps it was caused by an electrical fault of an electrical appliance sounds more professional and doesn't make you out to be illiterate or ignorant have a nice day 😉
Why is it taking them so long to start putting water directly onto this fire? Is it some kind of procedural or leadership reason? If that's the case, then there needs to be some changes made because this took way too long. The longer you take, the more time you're giving the fire to spread.
@@quantumrealmtourist71 well if you know so much please answer the question. Why do we see 1 hose and 3 fire trucks? Is CA that low in water? Please tell us what we’re missing, in all seriousness.
@@quantumrealmtourist71 well if you know so much please answer the question. Why do we see 1 hose and 3 fire trucks? Is CA that low in water? Please tell us what we’re missing, in all seriousness.
@@mea1831 at around 5:25-5:30 you can see that there’s a supply line from the hydrant connected to the first pumper on scene. This means they have a water supply established and you can see there are also a couple hose lines extended into the building. For mid rise buildings like this the building should have a standpipe system in the buildings that the firefighters can connect to to fight fire. You won’t see a lot of hose on the ground outside at a fire like this because all of the hose is inside. Most crosslays of hose on fire trucks are only 200’ and wouldn’t reach the seat of this fire. Therefore, the firefighters will go inside and connect to standpipes on the fire floor to have enough hose to put it out.
@@quantumrealmtourist71 there was a couple of times that you can also see water shooting out from the building from the inside so they were definitely getting water on it just probably took them a good minute to get the fire
First impression arson, deliberate. Glass-Steel structure, were there sprinklers ? Was weird seeing massive Fire Dept presence with no firefighters on street level just en-masse parked trucks.
Because they are on the inside working the fire properly As for the fire, with the vast majority of structure fires the primary fire load isn't the structure itself but rather the contents Think of how much stuff today is petroleum based, especially compared to things made decades ago I started my firefighting career in the 80's and we did not face the fire loads that firefighters do today
@@virgilhilts3924 Large open plan office space is subject to totally uncontrollable fire when it gets going, modern fire load is so high. It is very dangerous for firefighters.
Once again showing that it's not the building construction type (in this case steel, concrete, glass, etc) that is the issue, but rather the contents and their heavy fire load.
Was this office bldg a practice fire for firefighters? Seems so, cause all I viewed was a whole qtr. of 3rd. Flr burned to the steel beams & debtor falling to ground in huge chunks, yet with a half dozen pieces of beautifully shinney fire apparatus neatly lined up in orderly fashion, I couldn’t see any hose lines laid on pavement from hydrants to pump fire apparatus! No lines were being pulled from back of engines to attack ferociouscl where was deck Bhutto ceased 3rd fl. fire , where was the de
I have a question: Why didn't the first responders use any water on this fire? I mean the 3rd floor is now a total lost and where was a snorkel truck? It could have been used to get the fire under control quicker. Love from Marysville, California
@@komohale3522 Not sugesting they park against the building, but you could certainly park the rig at the corner or on opposite side of street. I don't see any indication this building is going to collapse BTW. Would certainly have a ladder or two on the street side for a potential exterior attack. I'm all for going inside, but I suspect you could have knocked this thing complete down rather quickly with 1 elevated master stream.
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Why no aerial assault from a snorkel or ladder truck from that corner? Maybe they wanted to limit water damage to lower floors? That's all I can think of. Typically in a fire, you have 3 types of damages: fire, water, & smoke! And if any of these are severe enough, structural damage! I think the IC for SBCoFD played it smart! On another note, it's a good thing nothing alive (human or animal) was on the sidewalk down below!
I would like to know why in the hell the guy is putting out the fire in the brush underneath a building that's been falling down. I think I'd be moving my ass out to the street not right under it. Here is your sign
Give me an 1"3/4 and I can put more water on this fire than anyone else there. Finally, the fire burned up all the fuel there was to burn up. Wait they're law firm offices, it's all good!
When you have HOT CASES it is not funny ,great job the fire department always there ,never asking for anything and that is priceless!!!!excelente job 🫢🤫
"If I can't have the top floor corner office, NOBODY can!!!!!"
All the evidence is SAFE and SOUND. Why do you ask?
He's taking early retirement.
LOL! Right!
The cake to people ratio was not correct.
If I don't get my red stapler....
Perhaps Someone's Client was unhappy with Lawyer's prattle ?
I must admit that with everyone of these fire videos I view I nearly always have the same, unanswered question: How did it start?
The cause to a fire is not always immediately known. It can take days or weeks to determine a cause. Sometimes a cause is never determined.
Sometimes the fire is so hot and so much damage is done that the cause can’t be determined , I have seen and heard of fires starting in a lap top or computer towers but the fire marshal can’t be 100% because there isn’t anything left but a pile of melted Metal and plastic which was unidentifiable
In San Bernardino? Tweekers.
palm to forehead---sheesh, i left the coffee pot turned on!
*MOST* Of the fires lately in SB have all been caused by Homeless people, like the several fires in Carousel Mall.
Just curious? Wouldn't you think some master streams could knock that volume of fire down? Plenty of engines and aerials parked on the sides?
Don't want to push the fire into the un burned area of the structure. You want to attack it from the inside with hose lines and push it out in an offensive strategy.
@@medmark I had no idea you could push fire with water?
@@williamheber2118 yes. The water and airflow will “push” fire
@@medmark whatever would have been "pushed" inside still would have been less damage that the fire ripping for 10 more minutes unimpeded. An outside master stream should have been the very first thing setup. "Unburned attack" is antiquated.
@@medmarkThat nonsense was taught in the 1960’s. Modern fire techniques and tactics have disproven that myth.
It’s 2024 get with the times son. You can’t “push” fire with a hose line. 🤦♂️
The fire was caused by faulty electricity, my family had paperwork in safes on the second floor and know people who worked there.
Makes me wonder what cases and for whom they had going?
the Clinton's ?? 😅
@@DirtyDog995 or Trump
@@DirtyDog995 - No, they would've come down with a terminal case of the Arkansas Sudden Death Syndrome.
@@DirtyDog995 that Clinton body count gets higher and higher each day
you know if they spent less time trying to cut through the roof and putting water in the fire. They can put the fire out a lot sooner. Second they really need to invest some tower ladders
A deck gun on an engine would have even made this better.
@@whermanntx Yeah that would’ve been good choice too. I don’t know if they have deck guns on their engines
Is San bernaghetto a ghost town? I didn’t even see one person walking by nor a single car driving by.. like nobody is there
Bands will play no more...too much fighting on the dance floor
Bro it's a wasteland.
@@dinnerisgood that’s crazy. If that was the 323, you’d see a mob of people with cellphones out, and a traffic jam in front of that burning structure
Well from what I saw from the drone footage, they had the block shut down.
They had a whole area shut down there was police cars blocking the road
How long have you had the drone? Getting fancy! 👍🏼
Why doesn’t the building have ceiling sprinklers, looks like a newer building. Also why did it take so long to get water on the fire?
It does have sprinklers and standpipes
They were working the fire from the interior and had water on it before the video even started
sprinklers arent designed to necessarily put out a fire.. they are designed to buy time and also help to get a stop on a fire.. if the fire started above the ceiling level its p[ossible the code in that area doesnt require heads above a drop ceiling and so the fire could get a decent run before the ceilings come down and activate sprinklers.. in a raging fire scene from outside to see that the fire was pretty well contained to one quadrant says that the sprinklers did their job and helped to slow the fire anbd buy time for the fire crews inside to mount an interior attack (a succesful one by the looks of it).
Why to you ask so many questions based on limited information?
That's the 3rd building in that area to catch fire within the last 4 months.
Do any of these engines carry water or are they just for show ?
Several years ago I painted the offices in that building. The LL was so cheap. No wonders!!! probably deferred maintenance, or no tenants, or he just set fire to it. Or maybe it was abandoned because nobody would rent it.
was probably worth more dead than alive!
Don’t be afraid to put it out fellas!
Don't know much about how a fire is fought do you? Difficult to tell in an eight minute video what was actually going on.
@@station079 A little bit, l spent more than 34 years otj on the east coast. 8 minutes can be a either a very long time on the foreground or depending on what's going on. Either way, in 8 minutes your ladder or tower should be in the air, hydrants grabbed, companies fed and if need be a deck gun running. All l see if on poor sob on the roof by himself! Everyone one has an opinion, is what it is long as they all home!
There’s several rigs outside and you see no one outside besides the roof guys, also the streams of water shooting out? Why would you put a deck through when crews are inside working interior?
You don't put water from the outside on to teams that are working interior but you can put water on the fire from outside before the interior crews are set up and ready to go and if they had done this the fire would have been knocked down far quicker and would not spread as much. Simple stuff really.
Whats the difference between a dead skunk in the middle of the road and a dead lawyer in the middle of the road? ans: Skid marks in front of the skunk.
Facts
Is there a reason after well over 3 mins of film time (which means way more in REAL time) they haven't put a master stream on this? And they're only doing roof ops? REALLY???
You see all the apparatus on scene and no one standing around? That means the crews are inside fighting fire. No need for a master stream if there are crews inside fighting fire. No need to mix offensive and defensive strategies.
In San Bernardino county they only do Master streams when they're doing defensive and there is several firefighters inside actually fighting the fire you do see a some moments where there's water shooting out from the inside
REALLY??? Are you seriously this ignorant?
You should seriously consider NOT making comments about subjects you clearly know nothing about
Doing such might prevent you from making such a fool of yourself
Maybe they did a interior attack.
Master stream seriously? You would go defensive with only a single floor and a few offices involved? Oh, and the drone footage is pretty good showing the exterior from another platform for the IC to have additional information that may play a part in the tactics. It's pretty obvious that these guys are interior and setting up their fire attack. These guys in Berdoo know what their doing.
Respectfully
For a 3 alarmer, Im kind of surprised on what appears to be low number of units on scene…
Sort of difficult to tell by the video. Heck, the best hose usage in the entire video was a guy using a booster line putting out hotspots in the flower bed. Most of the action took place inside the building via an interior attack. San Bernardino County Fire's website stated that they responded with "13 Engines, 4 Truck Companies, three Chief Officers, an Air/Light Unit, a Medic Squad & three Fire Investigators. Colton, Rialto, Loma Linda also assisted each with an Engine Company."
Excellent video of the scene!
oops remember all those records we had about your case? I think we lost the case. check Hillary's server or Hunter's lap top ok.
👍😆 and let's not forget, the Big Guy always gets 10%
@@OptimusPrinceps_Augustus yeah, there's definitely some shadiness here
@@OptimusPrinceps_Augustus damn he hit me up fo 75% some dayz just not wirth gettin outta bunk.
This law firm must have some hot cases
I realize that a lot of companies, like law firms, don't work on weekends, but those are some really empty streets! The lack of traffic and spectators almost makes it look like a training exercise or that it's taking place at the training grounds.
It's not nice to set fire to a law firm no matter how upset you are with them in the court room.
Can anybody explain why there are no jets or ladder trucks attacking the fire from the side it’s raging?? For sure here in the uk they would be pouring water from above and jets from the ground. The fire just seems to be getting worse and worse with very little urgency of getting wet stuff on the hot stuff
So Cal city fire departments are anything but fire fighters. LA are the worse. Even the city I live near by can let a dumpster fire turn into a 5 alarm disaster.
7:20 At least they are using the water for something. It sure wasn’t being used for suppression efforts. 😂😂😂
As a European, I always wonder, why is cutting holes in a roof more important, then hose water into the flames...??
I see a lot of Firetrucks and Personnel, a Ladder bringing Fireman to the roof, but NOBODY hoses water from below....???
Only firefighting from the inside seems more dangerous, instead start spraying from the outside as well.....!!
There are a lot of European Firefight vlogs on the Internet, so everybody can compare.....!
Looks like someone didn't like their lawyer .. 👀
Orders to let it burn?
Maybe that law firm represented a client who filed a law suit against against one of that city's Police Officers.
@@dand3975 very likely.
Question for any firefighter watching this. Why didn't they set up opposite the direction of the smoke
I'm an old fart, but I think they didn't position close to the heavily involved portion of the building because of the collapse potential. They entered the uninvolved part of the building and made an interior attack, into the wind, which is of course beyond their control. That looks like lightweight steel or "J-bar". Parellel chord teel trusses made from re-bar and steel channel. Trusses don't do well in fires. Nonody seems to know this crappy construction was the same thing used in the World Trade Center. There were all these nuts running around saying "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" like they knew something. Never read a book. There WERE NO steel beams, only the facade, It did pretty well though, all things considered. It was sticking way up after everything else was long gone. Good job San Bernardino and LA Co!
why are they so slow to get water on fires in america
I agree with you as far as this one goes but there's about as many approaches to putting out a fire in the United States as there are fire departments.....
D St and 2nd St?
If you consider a commercial fire in a three story business structure... this is probably the most convenient location for a fire... the building is structurally sound, its isolated, the fires already vented itself, No exposures or proximity to other buildings an probably has a plug or two close by. Doesn't look like a 3 alarm turnout but its sufficient.
Nice video! That was nice of the fire dept to water all the plants outside after putting the fire out lol
LOL, just goes to show you that even video can be misleading. That fire could have been much, much worse. Most of the action took place out of the view of the camera.
No master stream for some time 2. No dumping a monitor with second engine in 3. No aerial monitor in the front of the building, 3 Alarms where are the additional rigs?
What a tragedy for the county workers in the building! Will affect many.
How fid it get started?
Oh shut up! It’s county workers they will have jobs!!!!
I bet you are a work snitch
Probably currupt government officials
Master streams from the street would have knocked most of that fire down quickly.
What are they destroying?
To Andrew Rackauskas, You fight the fire from the unburned side. The FD was making a good INTERIOR attack on the fire floor against the wind. Just because YOU dont see a bunch of FFs in the street moving around doesnt mean they are not bustin their asses and taking a severe beating inside trying to make a good stop .. which they did.
If you watch the vid closely, you can see a few good fire streams shooting out the building as the Engine Companys make the sweeps hitting the fire with their hose line. They are without a doubt kicking the fires ass.
This isnt a parade, its a working fire job.
The FD boys did a great job here knocking down the fire and gaining quick control with all with a tremendous amount of fire and fighting against the wind.
Yeah i can say this, been in the fire service all my life just about over 55 years, paid and volunteer and a past Fire Chief. How about your experience?
From a FF in NZ - nice job considering how involved it was early on but why no aerial attack from upwind positioned from the intersection (especially in a resource-rich city like San Bernadino)?
Hay diggernator, thanks for the question.
The reason is, you have crews inside trying to advance lines into the involved area and add to that, against the wind.
A ladder pipe or master stream from an engines deck gun would drive the fire down on the guys and really fry their asses.
It was explained to me years ago when i was a young pup fire chief at 26, having a master stream directed down or at you while in a building is like ordering an artiliary barage on yourself. Not a good move.
However, the position of the fire couldnt have been at a better place: top floor, corner of the building and a fire resistive building. No doubt there was a heavy fire load in those rooms/offices for that amount of heavy fire volume.
Their was a stick to the roof corner of B/C, (ladder trucks aerial), in the opposite rear corner.
Escape for the roof ops crew if thr roof becomes untennable.
The guys did good.
Id of made the same calls.
Stay safe my brother!
@@chief1945 I wouldn't have had the crew 'down stream' of the aerial, though our building code calls for mandatory sprinklers in buildings of this age so a different world really ... at the end of the day they did a good job and saved the bulk of the structure..... Cheers for the answer brother you stay safe too
Chief, like everything you said, I didn't see any interior attack lines going into the buildings. Was there hose cabinets in the building? Preserving the lower floors, from water damage? Where I am from, the amount of vsible exterior fire, would of required us to make an exterior attack, with a ladder tower.
Why not knock it down with a couple of deck guns
I hope everything has been saved on a computer.
Anything on what caused the fire? I want to say arson, but it could have easily been an electrical fire.
UA-cam fire investigator.
An Electrical fire is a appliance that keeps you warm ..try using vocabulary along the lines of perhaps it was caused by an electrical fault of an electrical appliance sounds more professional and doesn't make you out to be illiterate or ignorant have a nice day 😉
@@firekev5166 Shut Up, Karen!
why are the ff acting so slow?
Where do you see them working slowly?
Marijuana ?
@@quantumrealmtourist71 pfff
@@Flintmanx ?
Billable Hours
that last guy putting out the brush fire.. yea hes the rookie! LOL
Sprinkler system??
lol, in the third world US?
What about it?
@@virgilhilts3924 Did they have one?
All those fire trucks but no deck gun going? That should be the first thing happening.
Nope.
@@komohale3522 why not?
And most important be sure to park down wind! So have to be in the smoke and fight the wind to get any water on the fire! !
I don't smell smoke, I smell a lawsuit!
Why is it taking them so long to start putting water directly onto this fire? Is it some kind of procedural or leadership reason? If that's the case, then there needs to be some changes made because this took way too long. The longer you take, the more time you're giving the fire to spread.
Damn. I wish you were in command at this fire. It’s so easy right?
@@quantumrealmtourist71 well if you know so much please answer the question. Why do we see 1 hose and 3 fire trucks? Is CA that low in water? Please tell us what we’re missing, in all seriousness.
@@quantumrealmtourist71 well if you know so much please answer the question. Why do we see 1 hose and 3 fire trucks? Is CA that low in water? Please tell us what we’re missing, in all seriousness.
@@mea1831 at around 5:25-5:30 you can see that there’s a supply line from the hydrant connected to the first pumper on scene. This means they have a water supply established and you can see there are also a couple hose lines extended into the building. For mid rise buildings like this the building should have a standpipe system in the buildings that the firefighters can connect to to fight fire. You won’t see a lot of hose on the ground outside at a fire like this because all of the hose is inside. Most crosslays of hose on fire trucks are only 200’ and wouldn’t reach the seat of this fire. Therefore, the firefighters will go inside and connect to standpipes on the fire floor to have enough hose to put it out.
@@quantumrealmtourist71 there was a couple of times that you can also see water shooting out from the building from the inside so they were definitely getting water on it just probably took them a good minute to get the fire
gotta love disgruntled clients. I feel the same way everytime I get near a slime ball attorney.
I was a fire inspector for San Bernardino Fire. This firm doesn't hire many Black attorneys no matter how qualified..
You can almost smell that cheap, plastic furniture burning.
I don’t see any hoses deployed to fight this fire? Why aren’t there any platforms or ladder truck up spraying into the building
Dozens of firetrucks were parked outside the building, but they did nothing. Why did they take so much time?
I wonder if this attorney firm will represent themselves in the insurance claim.
First impression arson, deliberate. Glass-Steel structure, were there sprinklers ? Was weird seeing massive Fire Dept presence with no firefighters on street level just en-masse parked trucks.
Because they are on the inside working the fire properly
As for the fire, with the vast majority of structure fires the primary fire load isn't the structure itself but rather the contents
Think of how much stuff today is petroleum based, especially compared to things made decades ago
I started my firefighting career in the 80's and we did not face the fire loads that firefighters do today
I Thought The SAME Thing!, Maybe This Is A "HIGH RENT" District!
It’s Hollywood, the trucks are props and the firefighters, if you find them, are paid actors.
First impression....you are a YT Comment expert. Sit back in your recliner and continue your nap.
@@virgilhilts3924 Large open plan office space is subject to totally uncontrollable fire when it gets going, modern fire load is so high. It is very dangerous for firefighters.
I can't believe there is not a single ladder company operations on the fire side of the structure???
Just the latest building to burn down here in San Bernardino . Usually it's a abandoned building though
It amazes me the lack of actual fire fighting. Where is all the water?
What a good video. I still still still live in in Berdoo
I'm sorry. I used to live there before it went to shit.
Why are there no ladders with water cannons in San Bernardino?
I'm willing to bet that it started with a subpoena.
So much for getting the c suite corner office.
why put the entire team front wind instead of make a defensive direct attack from the streets ?
Jede Menge Feuerwehrautos, aber es wird nicht von Außen gelöscht. Wieso? Sehr seltsam...
small rant: GET A DECK GUN UP AND GOIGN TO THAT 3RD FLOOR CORNER!!!
No aerial master streams?
No sprinklers?
A very nice job of watering the plants in front
He was putting out the burning bark mulch that would have kept going and engulfed the entire first floor.
Can I ask why they're not putting water on it????!!!
They are...from the inside.
Whats taking them so long to get WATER on the fire.?????
So little water being put on the fire, must be the drought.
C-SPAN SWAMP
My question about all these U.S. fires is, how many fire engines have to arrive before they start putting water on
where is the water
Once again showing that it's not the building construction type (in this case steel, concrete, glass, etc) that is the issue, but rather the contents and their heavy fire load.
And the fact they failed to hit the fire from outside in the first place.
@@andyoxleyonhistravels they were hitting the fire from the inside Andy
@@andyoxleyonhistravels
Once again proving you aren't a firefighter and never have been 🤣😅😂
VIRGIL HILTS
@@fastkarr8256
He thinks firefighting is squirting water with a garden hose from the sidewalk as fast as you can
@@virgilhilts3924 lmao.🤡
Was this office bldg a practice fire for firefighters? Seems so, cause all I viewed was a whole qtr. of 3rd. Flr burned to the steel beams & debtor falling to ground in huge chunks, yet with a half dozen pieces of beautifully shinney fire apparatus neatly lined up in orderly fashion, I couldn’t see any hose lines laid on pavement from hydrants to pump fire apparatus! No lines were being pulled from back of engines to attack ferociouscl where was deck Bhutto ceased 3rd fl. fire , where was the de
Burn the evidence.
Lithium batteries? was this a battery bank that went up?
I have a question: Why didn't the first responders use any water on this fire? I mean the 3rd floor is now a total lost and where was a snorkel truck? It could have been used to get the fire under control quicker. Love from Marysville, California
Why in all these fire videos….does it take so damn log to get the first drop of water flowing?….
Oh no, all those Gucci suits and starbucks mugs burning to ash, what a shame, anyway.
Lots damage done first fire seen where the steel was quite literally melting away like polyester.
Ate they waiting for it to burn itself out?!
Water on the fire is not No1 priority it seems.
At least 5 Fire Appliances with only one jet, should be Jets operating from ground level with Aerial Jets.
I hope BakerXderek got footage of this!
Day after Trump got served his subpoena and this is what happens
Democratic or rinos threatened the fire people not to put it our. Are up people
Odd apparatus placement.
Out of collapse zone.
@@komohale3522 Not sugesting they park against the building, but you could certainly park the rig at the corner or on opposite side of street. I don't see any indication this building is going to collapse BTW. Would certainly have a ladder or two on the street side for a potential exterior attack. I'm all for going inside, but I suspect you could have knocked this thing complete down rather quickly with 1 elevated master stream.
somebody had a bad time with lawyers..to many ambulance chasers around for sure Karma
Must've been some real hot negotiations going on in there.
The T1000 jumped from his motorcycle 🏍 through those windows onto the helicopter 🚁. (Terminator 2 T1000 motorcycle cop skynet video) search so you can see
Why on earth do they not use deck guns?????
Los Angeles firefighters and FDNY are way more aggressive.
Why no aerial assault from a snorkel or ladder truck from that corner? Maybe they wanted to limit water damage to lower floors? That's all I can think of. Typically in a fire, you have 3 types of damages: fire, water, & smoke! And if any of these are severe enough, structural damage! I think the IC for SBCoFD played it smart! On another note, it's a good thing nothing alive (human or animal) was on the sidewalk down below!
Because you do not fight a fire with a master stream from the outside when you have firefighters inside
Doing such is how you get firefighters killed
nice drone footage...well done
I would like to know why in the hell the guy is putting out the fire in the brush underneath a building that's been falling down. I think I'd be moving my ass out to the street not right under it.
Here is your sign
Well that looks suspicious, I’d see if those lawyers had anything to do with Trump or the GOP
Sounds like someone is cutting firewood...............
If they used a deck gun this fire would have been taken care of so much faster
Full of offices. It's only going to reach the outside.
Give me an 1"3/4 and I can put more water on this fire than anyone else there. Finally, the fire burned up all the fuel there was to burn up. Wait they're law firm offices, it's all good!
When you have HOT CASES it is not funny ,great job the fire department always there ,never asking for anything and that is priceless!!!!excelente job 🫢🤫