As Jacob Geller once put it: "Every Platinum Game is like: Fighting with this character feels better than any game you've ever played before. Now here's a bunch of other stuff you have to do that isn't fighting with this character."
Jacob Geller is one of the few UA-camrs I'll gladly click on a 25 minute video for without hesitation. His videos are always both profound and entertaining in the process. 'Death is Inevitable in Outer Wilds' was the piece that got me into his channel, and remains one of my favorite videos to this day.
I'd say its a good neutral way to give a rating, safer than saying 1/10 when its not a BAD game - it just fails to meet it's predecessors. (at least with Dunkey's review, not my opinion)
I love how Dunkey can create these these honest, articulate reviews, and then he drops in lines like "How do I unlock the Green Goblin as a playable character?" without changing his tone at all.
yh lmao goes critical one second and then throws in a punchline with a straight face which is why i love his content so much. Man releases banger after banger of vids.
Yeah probably why I enjoyed his review a lot. It's not the posh British sounding person telling you how your view of a video game is shit, but instead like a friend who have an opinion or two about video game
The creators said in an interview that the story is basically an after thought. They concentrate on making the levels and everything "cool" first, then mish-mash whatever lore they can come up with. While I do understand that the gameplay is the most important part of the game, it explains the wonky dialogues and simple narrative they try to over-complicate with details since the first game.
@@Pitman856 Probably to appeal to a somewhat more casual audience that otherwise wouldn't buy into the "modern arcade" experience these games are aiming for.
@@Pitman856 For example God of War players may try those because of the sheer resemblance only to be struck by the fact that they have sloppier set-pieces but better combat. Unless it was Bayo 2 in which case GoW players will fell right at home.
I'm glad someone mentions how wonky the camera is in this game, I miss being able to actually focus on an enemy without having to manual track them even after a hard lock
@Super Succubi the camera is manageable if only the isn't super frantic, with multiple particles effect being ejected into your eyes and sometimes it zoom out so far away from your character making you like controlling a specs of tiny light in the sea of galaxies.
AS a story oriented Bayonetta player (yeah I know, Im starving here), this hit the nail on the head I think. I want this game to get the support it deserves for being such a fun, frenetic, wacky and beautiful game, but it felt like half of the writers adored the Bayoverse and did it justice and the other half took what those half of the writers did and said 'No. Put Thanos in there with lots of pew pew scifi and make him super duper powerful or I don't wanna play anymore. AND DON'T LAUGH HES MY SUPER SERIOUS BIG BAD OC. Also Fey now because I said so." And expected us to respect that. I want it to get support so it gets the sequels it deserves...but I want to find out who greenlit some of this stuff and ask them if they wanna work on another game series maybe. They didn't seem like they wanted to have fun.
"AS a story oriented Bayonetta player (yeah I know, Im starving here)" Yeah I'm sorry, WAT? lol. Maybe I'm not far enough into the first but this is a sentence I never expected to see written unironically. Unless I missed your irony ;) Even in the first (I'm only like 3 missions in), I have no clue what story has kept you going (lol). Maybe I'll find out... But otherwise, what you and Dunkey are saying makes sense. I just started playing Bayonetta 1 for the first time (due to encountering kind of cult like appreciation for it online), expecting wacky and shameless, but this shit is *seriously wacky and shameless* , more so than I expected, with less story than I expected... It's a JoJo's Bizarre Adventure-type game. As a story oriented player in general, Bayonetta doesn't do that so far - *and that's totally fine and even a positive* in this game for me. I feel like story that takes itself too seriously just takes away from that wacky, flamboyant, shameless angle, which is the primary strength - the spectacle of it all. This game (and I assume the series too) is like a shitpost. I want it to be coherent enough to make me laugh, but I don't need or even want it to try too hard to deliver a message.
@@mrahzzz Welcome to the Bayoverse! It's a really fun ride! TBH this'll probably make more sense when you've gotten further through the game, but essentially, I think we all agree on the same point--the chaotic, barely sensical story of Bayonetta is a good deal of its charm, and no one really signed on for a deep and linear story though it's nice to get nuggets of delicious world building where we can. The complaint tends to come less from the wackiness of the 3rd game--the wackiness is one of the things that the game has going for it in spades, we all know and love that vibe--it's more that of the story that is there, the new stuff completely undercuts and often disservices what's already been established. The story not making sense is not just forgivable but embraced--but the story that is there harshing the buzz of the rest of the games? That's, more or less, the issue here. It could have worked, until it kicked our collective fun in the nuts for the sake of false stakes that isn't true to any of the rest of the series. Still, it really was a fun ride till the last half an hour or so! And the new Bayonetta Origins does a good job of showing the players there's good faith left. So enjoy the ride, knowing the road's getting paved ahead of you as we speak!
Imagine playing a bayonetta game for the story and lore. like wat. scratch that imagine even remembering a single narrative beat from a bayonetta game outside of kill angels and or demons
I dunno what your on about, in the firsf bayo i didnt even know wtf the story was about till the expo dump in like the last 3 missions and it was still stupid. Bayo 2 is just bayo save jean and kick ass, thats all, and 3 has no much nonsensical bullshit im not sure why they even put effort into it. Bayo is like any platinum game that isnt neir(they didnt do the story for that). Just an excuse for cool shit to fight
Bayonetta 3 really makes you FEEL like you're playing a video game that was released in October of 2022, with a third person camera, in the beat em up genre with RPG elements, platforming elements, and side scroller elements.
@@yourmum69_420 its not a platformer/hack and slash, that's why I specified bc I knew that someone would mention the LITERAL only train-type game that was any good
@@Hard2Place oh yeah? well what about uhh [googles train games] Choo Choo Charles, the train game where you can jump so it's a platformer, and Choo Choo Charles can hack and slash you apart if you're not careful? Bet you didn't consider *that!*
Its also ironic how these game developer at platinum leave capcom to pursue creative freedom have their most popular ip being confined in an inferior handware. While itsuno is given total freedom by capcom to create a game he really want to create. And they do it again with the upcoming dragon dogma 2, another itsuno creation.
@Rute Fernandes 1. Bayo is own SEGA, the first at least 2. MGS as is MGR is bigger than Nier and also their biggest project 3. Off course 4. I know that, but that deal with Nintendo come with a cost -very costly of being held hostage in an inferior system 5 Who said that those change are issue by Mr. N? My concern was (if I could dream off course) those change could be better implemented if the hardware limitation isnt a thing. Like this game graphics are in some area like mesh details and foliage are downgraded compared to the second game for favor of big ass Demon battle 6. Nope, Shinji Mikami (who later leaves Platinum for Tango... good decision btw) and Mr. Twitter royalguard are about to be absorbed to other Capcom devision after Clover studio termination, but they decide to create Platinum instead.
@@Aelvy But they weren't, he never said it was a bad game. He said it was the worst of the three. Return of the Jedi was the worst of the original Star Wars trilogy too, but not many people would call it a bad movie. And getting your ass beat is better than having your dick de-gloved, but that doesn't imply getting your ass beat is good. Dunkey summed the game up very well: every minute you're in combat is fun, and every minute you're not isn't. That's a middling game at worst. I likely won't play it again any time soon, but I'm glad I played it at least once.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 That is his conclusion though. If I order a hamburger and the bun is hard, the meat is under-cooked, the lettuce is wilted, there's no ketchup, and the tomatoes are on the verge of rotting but the cheese is at least how it should be, then sure, the cheese is a positive, but that doesn't mean the burger is good, nor does it mean that I enjoy it even if I choose to acknowledge the cheese being fine. He had very little to say that was positive, and what little positivity he had to offer was directly tied to one or more of the major negatives he brought up, such as how he stated it has a lot of creative and wacky ideas, but manages to make all of them boring. He also ranks the game third out of the series... when there's only three games in it to begin with. Not exactly something you say when you think a game isn't bad, y'know?
@@kenjutsukata1o1 Well when a big part of the game is supposed to be it’s “endgame” and replay value that by some metrics would kind of make it a bad game to me. Likewise i’m happy i played throughout it once but unlike all the other Bayonetta’s I can’t bring myself to want to grind for a Platinum ticket / unlock Witch Trials from collecting birds. When 30% of the game is combat and 60% is Platforming/Minigame/Exploring I can’t exactly recommend the game and say it’s “fun”. The other 10% is switching demons because Climax difficulty makes it mandatory for you to have a specific demon use their ability 💀💀 Maybe im just being negative though.
If anyone cares, Bayo 3 runs on a new engine and Bayo 3 is the first to use it, it's called Platinum engine or something and that's most likely why there's various new mechanics and mini games. Hashimo also left plat in 2019 and I think that's a biggest reason the scenario sucks.
Thru all the jokes, this is pretty spot on to how I felt. Story is so bad it actively hurts the expereince, and there's so many half baked gimmicks getting in the way of the fun combat. And even then that combat is against enemies with very little variety and a lot of visual confusion. A fun but suprisingly messy time coming from the guy who basically made this style of game.
@@Minarreal My mistake, i thought he was straight up Mr. Director. Still, as a supervisor I imagine he had some say and wasnt just eating chips and blocking people on twitter, or at least not the entire time :P
The story isn’t bad, you simply don’t understand it. Something being confusing at first doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing, it’s just a lot of info to take in and break down. Isn’t just your fault though, this is the case with 90% of other people who speak on it as they likely either haven’t even taken the time to read through the lore that the game goes to great lengths to provide the player thoroughout all 3 installments, or only play Bayonetta because it’s an attractive woman killing Angels and Demons.. which is fine, but when your perspective on the series is so surface level it really hurts truer fans of the series when people are just flinging around misconceptions and accepting their lack of knowledge on the franchise as fact. The majority of the lore you piece together comes from the actual game menu books such as Hierarchy of Laguna, Lemegeton’s Guidebooks, etc etc.. and it’s even sadder because I can almost guarantee you that majority of the Bayonetta fanbase hardly even know these books exist to be read through in the first place. The whole Multiverse story has been alluded at since even the very first Bayonetta. It’s getting a bit annoying to see so many people speak so confidently on a story they know extremely little about.
@@TheMagicNimbus I'm a long-time fan that loves the lore, the story is not very well structured. They weren't even able to actually explain what Singularity wants in the first place, even the description.
Bayonetta 3 is like if you got a really good burger from a restaurant but before you could eat the burger you had to listen to some dude talk about how much he likes licking toes
On point review! Just finished the game last night and was overwhelmed by the incredible last stage and its storytelling there - which was surprising considering how underwhelming the storytelling was everywhere else (besides the opening stage). I missed all the hilarious interactions bayonetta used to have with her companions, how the game used a narrative to drive you forward, and how precise the combat wanted you to be. In this game, just like you, I found myself getting platinum and pure platinum medals by choosing the longer range melee weapons and spamming away (while not being able to see my character 25% of the time). Still, the third best bayonetta game is still way better than most other fighting games though! As a longtime fan, I was just hoping for more.
what storytelling? characters just appear outta nowhere to help, luka becomes himself for maybe 20 seconds, bayonetta does the heart rip out for the 30th time. its mostly just more big action scenes and a twist that doesnt feel like it was earned.
For real, unlocking the Green Goblin as a playable characters is still the coolest secret I've ever experienced, and it's yet to be topped in all my decades of gaming.
Are you playing along with Dunkey's joke, or are you referring to the Spider-Man movie tie-in game from 2002? If it's the latter, I'm with you there. That blew my teenage mind. That game was actually really good and I'll fight anybody who says otherwise.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 the latter. I can't believe that there even was a cheat code specifically FOR the secret character, new voice lines, new responses, just insane amount of fun added for what is practically a secret that back in the day would ordinarily be a lie someone tells in the schoolyard, and for what today would ordinarily be 20$ half-baked DLC. (Or fan mod)
@@Kuchhh Nah. For all the bullshit that Bethesda has done in terms of pointless money grabs, they weren't actually the ones to blame for Horse Armor. That was Peter Molyneux, with Fable 3 >.>
@@h.singular9613 Man, I miss schoolyard video game urban legends XD they really captured the imagination. Trying to get to Mew under the truck, finding the Triforce in Ocarina of Time, riding Yoshi in Super Mario 64... the holy grails of my childhood.
Completely agree. Gameplay/music/level design mostly great, but the story/characters were so damn flat through so many chunky cutscenes, really unfortunate ending choice too, holds it back from being an excellent game
The level design is worse than something you would see in ps2 games, what frame of reference do you have where these levels (if you want to call these ugly ass hallways/linear paths) are well designed? GoW2 was a ps2 game and makes this look atrocious.
@@CDRW24 sometimes it feels like a hallway because there's no interesting geometry to jump/move around on. Everything is extremely flat and uninteresting then you move on to the next big flat uninteresting area IMO.
@@CDRW24 yes, just because the area is visually designed differently than a hallway, doesnt mean its constructed much different than a hallway. Many areas are just small, uninteresting, basic and simple paths that funnel you to the objective with maybe an off shoot here and there that leads you to a cube to smash. Go ahead and repeat that for 7 out of the 9-10hours you might be playing the story for. The only thing interesting in this game is the combat, damn near everything else is disappointing for a game that releases in 2022. If you are impressed by ANY of this then I feel like maybe you've never played a game before, or simply have a very limited perspective and that's fine.
I like how bayonetta 3 has more Michael Bay type storytelling than Transformers Devastation, agame from platinum games, which has a very simple story with interesting addition to the lore
Ironically, Transformers Devastation is Platinum's least Michael Bayified game. At least out of the ones I played, having skipped their other licensed games and the live service one.
The thing about games like Bayonetta, is that they could literally have NO story, and I would still love them. Just throw waves of enemies at me, give me new weapons, demons to summon, and mega bosses. I’ll be happy just ripping through everything in style, trying out new combos. if any of that interests you, you should buy this game.
@@luisfillipebeserra2108 did u even read what OP wrote? He wanted good combat where the story doesn’t get in the way of ur flow. Then the dude recommended Dmc5 because of that, go chill off before u get frown lines from all that passive aggressiveness
As a huge Bayonetta fan that just completed 3, yeah. You right. There are some incredibly hype moments, but those are ones like the first time she goes DO IO BAYONETTA. Not only was the story basically an overly long fetch quest, the twists were all predictable as hell, there was not a single dramatic reveal throughout the entire story that wasn't telegraphed long beforehand. During chapter 8/14 I messaged my friend what I thought the ending would be, and two days later messaged them "I was right and I hate it." It's like they looked at the first two, and concluded that they could get away with a cliche filled plot without the characters and general fun that carried the first two.
every other chapter in this game has a big DO IO BAYONETTA moment, it really loses its specialness when it feels like an obligation that the game must do rather than something special. everything was big so nothing was
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The story and sewer green color pallet killed it for me. I miss fighting angels and infernal demons mostly. That and the whole multiverse bs was exhausting.
diehard bayonetta fan but plat really dropped the ball on this one for me. bayo 1's combat was the perfect foundation for a deep combat system to evolve through a whole franchise. i don't really understand why people aren't generally super pissed about the change from weapon pairs to having only one weapon usable at a time. that was the best and most unique thing about bayonetta's combat. could you imagine all the weapons they give you in bayo 3, and on top of that being able to use them in pairs, and on top of that monster summons???? bayo 3 could have been amazing /:
I was expecting a supercut of the dozen cutscenes where Bayonetta points her gun at somebody with a stern look on her face and doesn't fire or say anything as the bad guy drones on his monologue. Did these people play the first game to know what Bayonetta usually does in these situations?
Gotta say you are one lean video making writing machine. Gotta hold off on watching this one until I beat the game myself. Many kudos and hope you are getting enough sleep.
Just finished the game and I really enjoyed it. Dunk, your comments are fair and warranted. I myself wished Viola's witch time mechanic was reworked so enemies wouldn't bounce 50 feet away from me after a successful parry. Story writing in any media is hard and is probably most difficult in video games. I think different kinds of games demand different ways of storytelling. The Yakuza games can fit a whole soap opera within 100 hours of cut scenes and the Legend of Zelda BOTW can fit 100 hours of storytelling with no cut scenes. Platinum Games did setup their cut scenes to have a lot explosive action, but they also included moments of silence where characters exchanged glances and the story writers trusted the player would understand the sentiment communicated there. Could the story content be improved? Yeah it could. Should the game omit the wonky platforming sections? Yeah probably. Should the game omit the game play systems that aren't the main combat system? Maybe, but I did like playing as huge Godzilla monsters because its fun and shows Bayonetta is a beast. I could not help but shed a tear at the end of this game's conclusion, but I do appreciate your criticisms Dunkey as they are insightful and are intended to help future games become better.
@@carlitos.reviews You've expressed pretty much exactly my thoughts, I enjoyed the experience from start to finish. I liked the new additions and actually didn't mind the exploring and platforming because you get to experiment with the movement capabilities of your demons and not only the combat part. I loved Viola and the story, though I agree it can be improved and I can see where the complaints come from but for me it was pretty much just what I wanted
This is exactly why, as cool as giant monsters definitely are on a purely conceptual level, they're usually not a very good idea in actual gameplay practice for a lot of reasons. If you aren't absolutely certain you can nail it, I'd say it's better to avoid monsters that are drastically huger than the player character entirely. A fun fight always beats an annoying fight, no matter how much of a flashy setpiece that annoying fight is. And not even being able to tell what's happening because the camera system simply can't properly communicate a fight at that scale is never fun.
The only games that get a more serious toned review from the Dunk are those that must have truly dissapointed him. Great review, keep up the amazing work!
It's hard to say, I feel the same with dunkey where the third did leave me wanting a bit more. But the combat is a solid upgrade overall. I didn't really hate the story either, but the game did feel like it did drag on a bit. Overall this was a good review on dunkey's part cause you can feel him explaining the pros and cons of the game. That, and the Train-Saw weapon is very satisfying.
Dunky: If devil may cry is a game where you try kill things and look awsome bayoneta is a game where you look for your character. Me: remembers every part with V
@Pointless Rat Race but tbh V is easiest to play as for new players (based on every play trough I watched of different yputubers) but for not new players he is so boring to play 😭😭
My favorite thing about Bayonetta 2 is that it was just the first game with less fluff. No insta-death QTEs, fewer minigames, less annoying cutscenes, ect. So to hear the third went back to bad habits is very disappointing.
Sure, but at the same time bayo2 is very unbalanced and unforgiving if you're somehow "middle" player for action games. I'd rather have QTEs but combat I can enjoy than a fact that I have to *really* sweat to be good. Wasn't an issue for bayo1.
This game straight up triples down on my biggest beef with bayo 1: and that's the unwanted minigames. The core gameplay is too strong for platinum to just keep tossing tedious distractions at us. The game is at it's best when you are in the witch trials. Enemy variety skyrockets and it's all combat. No fuss or frills. Just the meat of the gameplay. If you are a bayo fan, get the game, and unlock everything, and get your butt to the witch trials. And that's the game.
The story is literally a fever dream held together with wet paper towel and scotch tape. So so so so so bad. I am glad people enjoyed the combat improvements but I feel alone in thinking it wasn't even that fun. Really felt like "gain distance, use demon slave, repeat". Maybe I just "don't get" the combat system since it seems to be overall well adored. Camera was clunky and felt basically unplayable unless docked. Didn't much care for the Niphlheim portals either, most of them felt pretty cheap. I avoided them about halfway through the game. Really appreciated this review.
dunky, love your reviews. So much awesome analytical info. Amazing for those who are interested in Game Design. And I love your humor endlessly. Thank you for what you do. ❤
While the gameplay was always what had me coming back to the first Bayonetta, the mystery and intrigue of the plot was what made it a good story. It had a good balance between being fun and flirty and feeding you pieces of the puzzle. You're right there alongside amnesiac Bayonetta seeing each event/memory and wondering what it means. Who is this vague creepy voice I keep hearing in my head, what are the "eye's of the world", what is this weird cult town about and why do I have memories of being here before? Why is gary oak challenging me to a pokemon battle every other chapter and why is he a hot blonde dommy mommy? Why is there a little girl who looks just like me. Am I my own mom? I don't want to be that guy but multiverse stories are almost always the same kind of garbage. They try to make it seem like there's some greater evil that's always the most boring villain in the series and none of those more interesting villains you fought before matter at all. People who write these stories seem to forget that little things are what give life to a world. The average person doesn't give a shit about the greater good or the universe. We'd much rather watch the more down to earth struggles of a well written character or two. They could have made it about Viola as she tries to live in the shadow of her incredible mom while trying to revive the Umbra witch clan. She has a heavy burden to bear being the only successor to the last of the previous generation of witches while still being a novice herself. As the worlds affairs get out of hand, maybe she has to find other people with potential to join her cause. Without sages and witches, the angels and demons would be free to wage war on earth and the new generation would stand united as one clan to stop them. I don't know it's an idea. I'm also not a fan of the giant monster fights when your character is basically an ant on the screen. At least in the first Bayonetta when you fight the Cardinal virtues the focus is always on Her. It's kind of a problem in a game where you are rewarded for not taking damage and dodging when you can't see your character in a fight.
The average person cares average the greater good but they can't imagine universal or multiversal much less global stakes. The problem is that they're using a generic serious bad guy for this, Green Goblin was a great villain in No Way Home and that was a multiverse story.
I totally get it. The fight with super madama butterfly where she forces the creatures eye open and the little bayo on her shoulder punches the shit out of the eye was when I went "Oh man, more of THAT"
I thought that the great stuffs about multiverse stories are less about the villain causing it and more about the characters, like power rangers or kamen riders interacting with one another. They're often not A-tier plot, but we know the characters so they can be pretty fun to watch.
what also kind of harms it is that the enemy is really just 1 guy and you don't really destroy them in a graphic or silly ways as before, like the angels used to get messed up as the fight goes on until getting finished off gruesomely/humiliatingly! the slime guys just... idk more video gamingly explode. so do the bayonettas. the abilities they give you are cool as heck though
you can tell that Nintendo exerted alot more of their influence on this game. instead of Bayonetta getting more naked as you do a bigger combo she just transforms into a devil trigger form.
Singularity and his homonculus drones were so boring. The designs of all of these enemies were a huge step down from the angels and demons. In the first 2 games fighting felt like dancing and the enemies were designed to be good dance partners. In this game, it seems like the enemies are just waiting to be kicked around by the large demons.
@@zengamer21 Yeah I really liked their designs but they were a bit too stiffy for me. Would have liked if they had more personality in their movements. Maybe they could have animations based around traditional hindi dances.
On one hand I think it's unfair to compare Bayonetta 3, a Switch game, to DMC5, a PS4/Xbox One game... but it's so hard not to since Bayo is the only true rival left to DMC.
Tell me you really aren't that stupid and that what you're saying is complete satire cuz if you don't know you have been living under a rock they remove the dislike button on UA-cam completely if you don't know 🤦♂️😒
Still waiting on a DMC and Bayonetta cross over game. If they play it smart, they could just make a fun ass game with the characters. Story can be whatever as long as its not hot garbage and has some attention to it.
Even though I really disagree with Dunkey in this video, I still want to take a moment to applaud him for how well thought out and logical his videos are. Even when I disagree with him, he still makes valid points about why he likes or dislikes a game, and even if he fucking despises a game, I can usually tell if I’m gonna like it or not regardless. He’s somehow able to pack more information, comedy, and wit into sub 5 minutes than most reviewers can into 3 hours of video. Never change, Dunk.
Which is why he made a video about critics. And the importance of finding a critic that relates to your values. Or, respecting a critics opinion because you know where they stand on things vs just some random review of nothing
I really enjoyed playing Bayo3 mainly because of how fun the combat is. In terms of story, I prefer Bayo1 and 2 just because of how convoluted and fun it was. Bayo3’s story was pretty cut and dry. I agree that they were too serious with this one, but it makes sense for the ending
The way the multiverse bayos die is the Stupidest thing I have ever seen Yes bayo 2 has established that bayo has some severe lack of spacial awareness but the amount of time bayos gets blindsided in this game is insane
Literally the best moments of plot feel like a modern KH game. the intro is solid, and so is the conclusion. But everything in between was just kinda serviceable and thats it.
I wouldn't say the conclusion is solid though, it came across very rushed and unpleasing to me. Sure the characters spent some time on screen together and the twist is given decently well but there's not much of a reason for them to actually care this much about each other besides multiverse shenanigans
Kh2 and kh1 at least had a memorable final dungeon and you knew that the cliamx was coming near. Literally the last playable stage in Bayonetta 3 is damn Paris (the rest is a pure corridor)
@@thewallsspeaktome3507 agreed, the conclusion just got me dissapointed, sigurd doesnt have any motivation, theres maybe a paragraph in the book or something but nothing thats all that interesting
Kamiya has always been a bit indulgent in his works. DMC1 and bayo 1 had space harrier sequences, and bayo had the racer level. I don't know to what extent kamiya was involved in the development of this game, but it seems like the proliferation of gimmick mode levels could have really used an editor to tell kamiya "bruh this is too much." What i'm hearing about the story is also a real shame because underneath all the pomp and gaudy aesthetics bayo really had tight characterization and enthralling arcs ah well, there are much worse things to be than the third best bayonetta
Kamiya's dicisions with Shmup sections were fine to be honest. they're on brand for an arcade fanatic like him. (I mean, the guy even made Sol Cresta, finally getting the shmupiness out of his system.) But Bayo 3, (which is not directed by Kamiya) does slow things down a bit too much here and there since the game takes a more godzilla approach to combat, even entire sections exclusive to them. Only Viola has some consistent pacing.
I remember when Dunkey accounced he won't make any League videos, I was afraid what else he can post on this channel. And to be honest I think his style and jokes are more clever and entertaining than ever. Cheers, Dunk!
You know, about that "not being able to tell what's happening on screen during a fight" criticism... yeah, that's pretty much a a staple of Platinum Games right there. I was playing Nier Automata and, at a point, I was pretty much just smashing buttons and hoping the fight ended soon. I literally had no idea if I was winning, I was just relying on the auto healing and crazy combos. Difference is, with Nier Autamata, even when I wasn't fully sure if I was playing right sometimes, the story kept yanking me forward, so it was never a big deal. At worse, I was confused and disoriented. But when the combat slowed down a bit, or it was a one-on-on, OH BUDDY. Nothing quite like it.
tbh it feels like Bayo 3 is a little worse though, maybe because of all the tiny details they added (e.g. compare wicked weaves to demon masquerades), plus big arenas with big summons which make your character super tiny on your screen. Everything is shinier and flashier, too, which slightly obscures the flashes that are supposed to be generic tells for enemy attacks
I started taking epilepsy seriously when I played Bayonetta 1 on ps3. It was my 4th hour of the day and so much was happening in the game, I suddenly got dizzy and I wanted to vomit. This game gave me headaches, but the story and the combat always kept me going. When I finished the game, I was extremely happy with the ending. I searched for the sequel but they didn't launch it on ps. Anyway, Bayonetta has much love from me, it gave me epilepsy and made me stronger, it also cured my epilepsy.
I would say the low point is playing as other characters. When playing as Bayonetta i felt this game had the best gameplay out of all of them. The inclusion of new demons and weapons from other versions of Bayonetta, as well as being able to upgrade them how you want made the combat feel so customizable and unique. I had so much fun with this game so i’m surprised Danko didn’t like this one.
Tbf he didn’t say he didn’t like it. But he does point out some glaring issues. Overall this is probably my favorite Bayonetta, at worse second favorite. But the issues Dunkey describes are all there. And it’s not uncommon for him to focus on a game’s problems when global reviews are mostly positive, because he gives the audience some extra details about obvious cons that mainstream reviewers are pretty much ignoring. He did the same with elden ring: he liked the game yet half the review is all about the fucked up balancing. It’s honestly one of the things I most appreciate about his reviews
It also still suffers from the fact that, while you can do a lot of different combos, there's really no reason to do it. Players naturally gravitate to the most efficient ways in playing games, so you're still most likely to spam powerful moves instead of alternating and using different moves for different situations. I mean sure, you have a combo "points" bonus system, but DMC actually introduced moves that are only useable at max style ranking (like Dante's quick SDT switch), if not usable functional emotes (like Vergil's spinning blade taunt). Points system are just so primitive these days.
The combo system is the same that Bayo 1/2 used, but in Bayo3 completing a full combo is crucial to add the demon slave finisher. Special moves are a single input but their damage output is insanely lower, the trade off being that you can send your enemy flying for easier combos or close gaps. Taunting has always been used to max the aggro on an enemy to gain more witch times and a good 80% of the weapons act in distinct ways. So no, I don’t agree with you in the slightest. Spamming the same combo only works at normal difficulty, on higher it quickly falls off. Also, the goal of this game, just like in DMC, is to complete the chapters with a high score: resorting to the same combos doesn’t help with your multiplier
The combo system is the same that Bayo 1/2 used, but in Bayo3 completing a full combo is crucial to add the demon slave finisher. Special moves are a single input but their damage output is insanely lower, the trade off being that you can send your enemy flying for easier combos or close gaps. Taunting has always been used to max the aggro on an enemy to gain more witch times and a good 80% of the weapons act in distinct ways. So no, I don’t agree with you in the slightest. Spamming the same combo only works at normal difficulty, on higher it quickly falls off. Also, the goal of this game, just like in DMC, is to complete the chapters with a high score: resorting to the same combos doesn’t help with your multiplier
Many time when I was playing this game; I just started slamming buttons and wondered to myself, “Is this actually what I’m supposed to be doing?” And the game goes, “Ting! Yeah that was right.” Even though I love the Wonderful 101, during the last stages this is how I felt. I had to put that game down for a year and started fresh to finally beat it.
to be honest thats how i played 1 and 2, but at least in those games i was punished for it. im not good at these sorts of fighting games or practicing combos or whatnot. but even for me the combat in this game felt like it played itself for the most part, and i would have rather had some challenge to at least make me try to learn the games systems
Bayonetta 3, co-directed by Michael Bayonetta, is the third installment to the Bayonetta franchise. It packs a lot of action that you can't even see you're Bayonetta while fighting other Bayonettas. It is truly one of the bayonetta games of all time.
It's a shame Bayo 3 lacks heart. Bayo 2 had heart, but it was split in two. Bayo 1, now, that's one of the most focused and heartfelt games I've ever played. It's my most replayed game. I will replay it years from now. I wasn't able to replay Bayo 2, and I wasn't even able to finish 3.... it's a shame cos so many of 3's gimmicks look FUCKING AWESOME, but hearing how the story plays out, and knowing how boring most of the gameplay is, i just can't do it.
@@Minarreal when you can feel that the people who made it really care about the game, whether it be the story, characters, gameplay... bayo 1 had a lot of love for itself and for old SEGA games, bayo 2 had a lot of love for bayo herself, and bayo 3. uhh. if anything it's a platinum games homage that loves Astral Chain...
@@tipsy634 This comment of yours is just pure platitudes, "when you can feel the people who made it really care about the game" is something anyone can refute by bringing up they felt the opposite for whatever reason. Hence, I still don't get what you mean. Astral Chain has no business in 3 aside from being referenced here and there, so, if that's a representation of love and care by the devs, I suppose it can be said 3 received lots of love because there are many other references, including to the previous Bayonetta games.
@@tipsy634 i see what you mean. bayo 1 and 2 had a distinct focus on certain things that you could recognize, whereas bayo 3 is like a... giant bag of ideas where a lot of them work and a lot of others don't.
@@HenryWayat The first one is best because it gives you so many options that enable you to make your own approach to combat in a stylish way. B2, despite being a good time, takes a lot of that away and forces you into a more efficient yet stylistically compromised way of fighting (even the taunts are bad, good lord...). B3 has a lot of fun stuff in it too, but the whole time its just throwing shit at the wall REGARDLESS of what sticks or not, which is notoriously bad game design. B1 is like the RE4 of character action games, and that is a hill I'm prepared to die on
You make some good points, dunk. But have you considered that this Bayonetta has the best hairstyle of the three? For me, that makes this easily the game of the decade. And I haven't even played it yet.
Her hairstyle in 3 seems out of character, I wouldn't have thought Bayo would have the same braids she wore as a little girl 500 years ago. It's too cutesy for her
As Jacob Geller once put it: "Every Platinum Game is like: Fighting with this character feels better than any game you've ever played before. Now here's a bunch of other stuff you have to do that isn't fighting with this character."
excuse me??? he made a video about platinum games and i haven't seen it? and also that's LITERAL the reason i cannot enjoy wonderful 101
@@tovi3280 no, that was a tweet
@@sbwroses ok good i'm not an idiot
Jacob Geller is one of the few UA-camrs I'll gladly click on a 25 minute video for without hesitation. His videos are always both profound and entertaining in the process. 'Death is Inevitable in Outer Wilds' was the piece that got me into his channel, and remains one of my favorite videos to this day.
He talks about bayonetta 3 on the most recent episode of the MinnMax Show
"Michael Bayonetta" is an instant classic.
Guantanamo Bayonetta gives vastly different vibes
I was going to write the same thing... great to know there are a few bastions that recognize this type of humor!
@@NinBendo1 Try Bayonetta of Bengal next, interesting vibes.
Mayonetta
Christian Cage, TNA baby, that’s how he rolls
"I rate Bayonetta 3 third place among all the other Bayonettas"
BRUTAL
bayonetta 2 stays winning
Brutal but accurate
1&2 are easily better so I’d say it’s fair
@@Shnarfbird why is Bayonetta 2 everyone’s favorite?
@@SaberRexZealot tight gameplay, fast combat, best weapon selection in the séries
“I rate bayonetta 3, 3rd place among all the other bayonettas.”
That’s a powerful statement.
I wonder which Bayonetta is Dunie's first.
I'd say its a good neutral way to give a rating, safer than saying 1/10 when its not a BAD game - it just fails to meet it's predecessors. (at least with Dunkey's review, not my opinion)
@@sticksstickerson It’s also a joke
(Because it’s Bayonetta 3)
@@LordShrub 1
@@sauce8277 I may be overthinking or just missing the joke completely, care to explain for a dum dum?
they should make devil may cry 2
Pls play DEE EM CEE TWO PleaSe
Yeah it's weird that their HD trilogy collection only has 2 games in it.
devil may cry 2: 2
Minus the theatrical cringe dialogue.
No make devil may cry 2: 2
Dunkey's review is always on point. Deep analysis about gameplay and story, but most importantly he always mentions knack
Whenever Knack is not on screen, all the other characters should be asking, "Where's Knack?"
He has a knack for that
Why do people still watch Dunkey reviews? His fake review voice is annoying and his vids are not funny
@@ssssssstssssssss you're taking this way too seriously
@@ssssssstssssssss 🤓
I love how Dunkey can create these these honest, articulate reviews, and then he drops in lines like "How do I unlock the Green Goblin as a playable character?" without changing his tone at all.
yh lmao goes critical one second and then throws in a punchline with a straight face which is why i love his content so much. Man releases banger after banger of vids.
insane how you managed to deconstruct this extremely complex video to its bare essentials no way
It fits so well though. I call this the donsly effect,really deep character knowledge
Yeah probably why I enjoyed his review a lot. It's not the posh British sounding person telling you how your view of a video game is shit, but instead like a friend who have an opinion or two about video game
i fucking lost it with that
Bayoneta turning into a train sounds like a “ability” from balan wonderworld
The secret final boss is Yuji Naka's tormented soul, trapped in hell
Yoshi can turn into a train in Yoshi's Island, and he can ride on train tracks that someone drew on the wall with crayon
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks
Balan Wonderworld does have a train powerup
@@thekiss2083 His strongest attack binds all buttons on the controller to jump.
The creators said in an interview that the story is basically an after thought. They concentrate on making the levels and everything "cool" first, then mish-mash whatever lore they can come up with. While I do understand that the gameplay is the most important part of the game, it explains the wonky dialogues and simple narrative they try to over-complicate with details since the first game.
okay but then why are there so many cutscenes and so much dialogue
@@Pitman856 Probably to appeal to a somewhat more casual audience that otherwise wouldn't buy into the "modern arcade" experience these games are aiming for.
@@Pitman856 For example God of War players may try those because of the sheer resemblance only to be struck by the fact that they have sloppier set-pieces but better combat. Unless it was Bayo 2 in which case GoW players will fell right at home.
I like when Bayonetta turned into Nintendo's most intense farming game by harvesting tomatoes from monsters on naive angel mode
Is this real?
@@taco_annihilator obviously!
yeah but in this new farming rpg simulator you get to grow buildings with arms and you can raise pet dragons to defend your crops
@@xxmemekipxxlastname4846 man i bet dunkey feels stupid for trashing on farm games after this one
Man, that farming Direct was something else
I'm glad someone mentions how wonky the camera is in this game, I miss being able to actually focus on an enemy without having to manual track them even after a hard lock
@Super Succubi wasnt this one of the reasons why people hated DmC remake ? cos you couldnt lock on target ?
I need that old God of War camera angles back.
Everyone in the comment section is just complaining about the game
They hired the cameraman from Elden Ring and paid him in hard whiskey
@Super Succubi the camera is manageable if only the isn't super frantic, with multiple particles effect being ejected into your eyes and sometimes it zoom out so far away from your character making you like controlling a specs of tiny light in the sea of galaxies.
AS a story oriented Bayonetta player (yeah I know, Im starving here), this hit the nail on the head I think. I want this game to get the support it deserves for being such a fun, frenetic, wacky and beautiful game, but it felt like half of the writers adored the Bayoverse and did it justice and the other half took what those half of the writers did and said 'No. Put Thanos in there with lots of pew pew scifi and make him super duper powerful or I don't wanna play anymore. AND DON'T LAUGH HES MY SUPER SERIOUS BIG BAD OC. Also Fey now because I said so." And expected us to respect that.
I want it to get support so it gets the sequels it deserves...but I want to find out who greenlit some of this stuff and ask them if they wanna work on another game series maybe. They didn't seem like they wanted to have fun.
"AS a story oriented Bayonetta player (yeah I know, Im starving here)"
Yeah I'm sorry, WAT? lol. Maybe I'm not far enough into the first but this is a sentence I never expected to see written unironically. Unless I missed your irony ;) Even in the first (I'm only like 3 missions in), I have no clue what story has kept you going (lol). Maybe I'll find out...
But otherwise, what you and Dunkey are saying makes sense. I just started playing Bayonetta 1 for the first time (due to encountering kind of cult like appreciation for it online), expecting wacky and shameless, but this shit is *seriously wacky and shameless* , more so than I expected, with less story than I expected... It's a JoJo's Bizarre Adventure-type game.
As a story oriented player in general, Bayonetta doesn't do that so far - *and that's totally fine and even a positive* in this game for me. I feel like story that takes itself too seriously just takes away from that wacky, flamboyant, shameless angle, which is the primary strength - the spectacle of it all. This game (and I assume the series too) is like a shitpost. I want it to be coherent enough to make me laugh, but I don't need or even want it to try too hard to deliver a message.
@@mrahzzz Welcome to the Bayoverse! It's a really fun ride!
TBH this'll probably make more sense when you've gotten further through the game, but essentially, I think we all agree on the same point--the chaotic, barely sensical story of Bayonetta is a good deal of its charm, and no one really signed on for a deep and linear story though it's nice to get nuggets of delicious world building where we can.
The complaint tends to come less from the wackiness of the 3rd game--the wackiness is one of the things that the game has going for it in spades, we all know and love that vibe--it's more that of the story that is there, the new stuff completely undercuts and often disservices what's already been established. The story not making sense is not just forgivable but embraced--but the story that is there harshing the buzz of the rest of the games? That's, more or less, the issue here. It could have worked, until it kicked our collective fun in the nuts for the sake of false stakes that isn't true to any of the rest of the series.
Still, it really was a fun ride till the last half an hour or so! And the new Bayonetta Origins does a good job of showing the players there's good faith left. So enjoy the ride, knowing the road's getting paved ahead of you as we speak!
Imagine playing a bayonetta game for the story and lore. like wat. scratch that imagine even remembering a single narrative beat from a bayonetta game outside of kill angels and or demons
I dunno what your on about, in the firsf bayo i didnt even know wtf the story was about till the expo dump in like the last 3 missions and it was still stupid. Bayo 2 is just bayo save jean and kick ass, thats all, and 3 has no much nonsensical bullshit im not sure why they even put effort into it. Bayo is like any platinum game that isnt neir(they didnt do the story for that). Just an excuse for cool shit to fight
It's cool how the spider boss is a callback to the first DMC boss, cutscene, lines even music is similar
That is him
@@Mememan420_69 How are we sure of that ? they share the same name ?
@@Mememan420_69 *her. Phantom and Phantasmaranaea both spawn bebe spiders.
@@xemnasxiii3992 well in DMC his name was Phantom and in Bayo its Phantomsomethingsomethingsomething so yeah its the same guy
Bayonetta 2 did it first
The fact that this game can be boring is just heartbreaking
@@hubblebublumbubwub5215 it is yes
The ending is so fucking shit too
Easily one of the worst platinumgames releases of all time
Oh my god don’t listen do this clown
@@hubblebublumbubwub5215 by what he said
@@pedrogoncalves4585 the ending wasn’t goofy or over the top
It literally didnt make any sense at all and was character assassination basically
It is NOT. It's a fucking GREAT game.
This game really makes you feel like it’s the third Bayonetta game in the series
Out of all Bayonetta games this is definitely one of them.
Bayonetta 3 really makes you FEEL like you're playing a video game that was released in October of 2022, with a third person camera, in the beat em up genre with RPG elements, platforming elements, and side scroller elements.
@@MadHeart-rw9xh it's hack n slash not beat'em up 😢
Truly the best train-type platformer/hack and slash game yet.
It’s very strand-like in that regard.
zelda spirit tracks is the best train-type platformer
@@yourmum69_420 its not a platformer/hack and slash, that's why I specified bc I knew that someone would mention the LITERAL only train-type game that was any good
@@Hard2Place oh yeah? well what about uhh [googles train games] Choo Choo Charles, the train game where you can jump so it's a platformer, and Choo Choo Charles can hack and slash you apart if you're not careful? Bet you didn't consider *that!*
Fk you, I am going back to my Trainz&Friends: Friendship is cool game. Train controls are muc more realistic there
It’s almost as if dunkey is really talking to us
It really makes you feel like Donsly
Dunkey doesn't actually exist smh
Yeah, that's so sad, i miss him too, he was such a good person, may he rest in peace....
I can almost hear his voice
almost like he's a real person
It's weird that this game took so much from DMC 5 but forgot to take the focus and commitment that DMC 5 has towards its gameplay and tone.
Its also ironic how these game developer at platinum leave capcom to pursue creative freedom have their most popular ip being confined in an inferior handware. While itsuno is given total freedom by capcom to create a game he really want to create. And they do it again with the upcoming dragon dogma 2, another itsuno creation.
@Rute Fernandes 1. Bayo is own SEGA, the first at least
2. MGS as is MGR is bigger than Nier and also their biggest project
3. Off course
4. I know that, but that deal with Nintendo come with a cost -very costly of being held hostage in an inferior system
5 Who said that those change are issue by Mr. N? My concern was (if I could dream off course) those change could be better implemented if the hardware limitation isnt a thing. Like this game graphics are in some area like mesh details and foliage are downgraded compared to the second game for favor of big ass Demon battle
6. Nope, Shinji Mikami (who later leaves Platinum for Tango... good decision btw) and Mr. Twitter royalguard are about to be absorbed to other Capcom devision after Clover studio termination, but they decide to create Platinum instead.
They were too focused on not adding Dice minigames into Bayo 3
I want an entire game about the train form of Bayonetta.
Train-type gaming needs to be a thing.
Release it on PC and trust me you'll see it in a day or two
train simulator skin mod
Just unlock a weapon then, you can have it the whole game and even in NG+
choo-choonetta.
Dunkey manages to put all the positives & gripes of the game, into such short video. Fully Agree.
And yet people seem to think that his conclusion was that it was a bad game for some reason.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 and people, were right.
@@Aelvy But they weren't, he never said it was a bad game. He said it was the worst of the three. Return of the Jedi was the worst of the original Star Wars trilogy too, but not many people would call it a bad movie. And getting your ass beat is better than having your dick de-gloved, but that doesn't imply getting your ass beat is good.
Dunkey summed the game up very well: every minute you're in combat is fun, and every minute you're not isn't. That's a middling game at worst. I likely won't play it again any time soon, but I'm glad I played it at least once.
@@kenjutsukata1o1
That is his conclusion though. If I order a hamburger and the bun is hard, the meat is under-cooked, the lettuce is wilted, there's no ketchup, and the tomatoes are on the verge of rotting but the cheese is at least how it should be, then sure, the cheese is a positive, but that doesn't mean the burger is good, nor does it mean that I enjoy it even if I choose to acknowledge the cheese being fine.
He had very little to say that was positive, and what little positivity he had to offer was directly tied to one or more of the major negatives he brought up, such as how he stated it has a lot of creative and wacky ideas, but manages to make all of them boring. He also ranks the game third out of the series... when there's only three games in it to begin with. Not exactly something you say when you think a game isn't bad, y'know?
@@kenjutsukata1o1 Well when a big part of the game is supposed to be it’s “endgame” and replay value that by some metrics would kind of make it a bad game to me. Likewise i’m happy i played throughout it once but unlike all the other Bayonetta’s I can’t bring myself to want to grind for a Platinum ticket / unlock Witch Trials from collecting birds. When 30% of the game is combat and 60% is Platforming/Minigame/Exploring I can’t exactly recommend the game and say it’s “fun”. The other 10% is switching demons because Climax difficulty makes it mandatory for you to have a specific demon use their ability 💀💀 Maybe im just being negative though.
If anyone cares, Bayo 3 runs on a new engine and Bayo 3 is the first to use it, it's called Platinum engine or something and that's most likely why there's various new mechanics and mini games.
Hashimo also left plat in 2019 and I think that's a biggest reason the scenario sucks.
Also, the game was always a bit of an identity crisis, as you can see, Thule was left over bits of the open world they wanted to do in Bayo 3.
Thru all the jokes, this is pretty spot on to how I felt. Story is so bad it actively hurts the expereince, and there's so many half baked gimmicks getting in the way of the fun combat. And even then that combat is against enemies with very little variety and a lot of visual confusion. A fun but suprisingly messy time coming from the guy who basically made this style of game.
The guy who made this style of game was just executive director for 3.
@@Minarreal My mistake, i thought he was straight up Mr. Director.
Still, as a supervisor I imagine he had some say and wasnt just eating chips and blocking people on twitter, or at least not the entire time :P
The story isn’t bad, you simply don’t understand it. Something being confusing at first doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing, it’s just a lot of info to take in and break down. Isn’t just your fault though, this is the case with 90% of other people who speak on it as they likely either haven’t even taken the time to read through the lore that the game goes to great lengths to provide the player thoroughout all 3 installments, or only play Bayonetta because it’s an attractive woman killing Angels and Demons.. which is fine, but when your perspective on the series is so surface level it really hurts truer fans of the series when people are just flinging around misconceptions and accepting their lack of knowledge on the franchise as fact.
The majority of the lore you piece together comes from the actual game menu books such as Hierarchy of Laguna, Lemegeton’s Guidebooks, etc etc.. and it’s even sadder because I can almost guarantee you that majority of the Bayonetta fanbase hardly even know these books exist to be read through in the first place. The whole Multiverse story has been alluded at since even the very first Bayonetta. It’s getting a bit annoying to see so many people speak so confidently on a story they know extremely little about.
Wait, are you sure you're not reviewing Kingdom Hearts 3?
@@TheMagicNimbus I'm a long-time fan that loves the lore, the story is not very well structured. They weren't even able to actually explain what Singularity wants in the first place, even the description.
Bayonetta 3 is like if you got a really good burger from a restaurant but before you could eat the burger you had to listen to some dude talk about how much he likes licking toes
And then the burger it's vegan and smells like dirt
@@sebman6031 Nah the burger is really good. What you're saying is stupid lol.
@@PhotonSieve Yeah suuure, that's why after the voice actress scandal nobody gave a shit about this game
@@sebman6031vegan burger can be great
@@sebman6031vegan burgers are great man
On point review! Just finished the game last night and was overwhelmed by the incredible last stage and its storytelling there - which was surprising considering how underwhelming the storytelling was everywhere else (besides the opening stage).
I missed all the hilarious interactions bayonetta used to have with her companions, how the game used a narrative to drive you forward, and how precise the combat wanted you to be. In this game, just like you, I found myself getting platinum and pure platinum medals by choosing the longer range melee weapons and spamming away (while not being able to see my character 25% of the time).
Still, the third best bayonetta game is still way better than most other fighting games though! As a longtime fan, I was just hoping for more.
Saying bayonetta is a fighting is like saying gta is a racing game.
what storytelling? characters just appear outta nowhere to help, luka becomes himself for maybe 20 seconds, bayonetta does the heart rip out for the 30th time. its mostly just more big action scenes and a twist that doesnt feel like it was earned.
For real, unlocking the Green Goblin as a playable characters is still the coolest secret I've ever experienced, and it's yet to be topped in all my decades of gaming.
Are you playing along with Dunkey's joke, or are you referring to the Spider-Man movie tie-in game from 2002? If it's the latter, I'm with you there. That blew my teenage mind. That game was actually really good and I'll fight anybody who says otherwise.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 the latter.
I can't believe that there even was a cheat code specifically FOR the secret character, new voice lines, new responses, just insane amount of fun added for what is practically a secret that back in the day would ordinarily be a lie someone tells in the schoolyard, and for what today would ordinarily be 20$ half-baked DLC. (Or fan mod)
@@h.singular9613 Everything changed when Bethesda made Horse Armor DLC.
@@Kuchhh Nah. For all the bullshit that Bethesda has done in terms of pointless money grabs, they weren't actually the ones to blame for Horse Armor. That was Peter Molyneux, with Fable 3 >.>
@@h.singular9613 Man, I miss schoolyard video game urban legends XD they really captured the imagination. Trying to get to Mew under the truck, finding the Triforce in Ocarina of Time, riding Yoshi in Super Mario 64... the holy grails of my childhood.
0 dislikes as always, just another masterpiece from the donkey man
Umm.. they took away the dislikes, you cant see them
@@enterpassword3313 nah I can see them - and there are 0.
It's hard to argue with perfection.
@@DerronOfCairon no you cant lol
WOW what an original comment! Can't wait to 'not' see this again in his next video!
"It was time for Bayonetta to leave, she had seen everything."
Completely agree. Gameplay/music/level design mostly great, but the story/characters were so damn flat through so many chunky cutscenes, really unfortunate ending choice too, holds it back from being an excellent game
The level design is worse than something you would see in ps2 games, what frame of reference do you have where these levels (if you want to call these ugly ass hallways/linear paths) are well designed?
GoW2 was a ps2 game and makes this look atrocious.
@@SoloPlayerSama Did you even play this game if you're referring to it as hallways?
@@CDRW24 sometimes it feels like a hallway because there's no interesting geometry to jump/move around on. Everything is extremely flat and uninteresting then you move on to the next big flat uninteresting area IMO.
@@CDRW24 yes, just because the area is visually designed differently than a hallway, doesnt mean its constructed much different than a hallway. Many areas are just small, uninteresting, basic and simple paths that funnel you to the objective with maybe an off shoot here and there that leads you to a cube to smash. Go ahead and repeat that for 7 out of the 9-10hours you might be playing the story for.
The only thing interesting in this game is the combat, damn near everything else is disappointing for a game that releases in 2022. If you are impressed by ANY of this then I feel like maybe you've never played a game before, or simply have a very limited perspective and that's fine.
@@G3N0M3501DI3R I legitimately don't get how the areas feel flat to you because I'm constantly seeing towers hills, or secret tunnels in every level.
I like how bayonetta 3 has more Michael Bay type storytelling than Transformers Devastation, agame from platinum games, which has a very simple story with interesting addition to the lore
Ironically, Transformers Devastation is Platinum's least Michael Bayified game.
At least out of the ones I played, having skipped their other licensed games and the live service one.
Bayo 3 is still better with it’s story tho for sure
The thing about games like Bayonetta, is that they could literally have NO story, and I would still love them. Just throw waves of enemies at me, give me new weapons, demons to summon, and mega bosses. I’ll be happy just ripping through everything in style, trying out new combos. if any of that interests you, you should buy this game.
you should buy dmc5 instead if that's what you're looking for
Bro study instead of wasting time in games 😝, games not gonna bring success in life
@@ddas7974 tell that to game developers
@@Schiso13 a yes, the typical illusion that DMC 5 has some complex story and if so also think it's good
@@luisfillipebeserra2108 did u even read what OP wrote? He wanted good combat where the story doesn’t get in the way of ur flow. Then the dude recommended Dmc5 because of that, go chill off before u get frown lines from all that passive aggressiveness
Everyone's playing Sonic Excursion and here Dunkey is being a rebel
Bro everyone is playing the new god of war. And i dont blame them that game is amazing
Dunkey has always been at the fore front of avant-guard content
@@Averageunlovable it looks boring asf and more of the same to me, idek what y'all see in these games
@@paintsniffer401 respect gow 🤡🤡🤡
@@paintsniffer401 Being born a contrarian seems like such a sad life
I’m just happy dunkey acknowledged Wonderful 101. That game is great and doesn’t get enough credit.
As a huge Bayonetta fan that just completed 3, yeah. You right.
There are some incredibly hype moments, but those are ones like the first time she goes DO IO BAYONETTA. Not only was the story basically an overly long fetch quest, the twists were all predictable as hell, there was not a single dramatic reveal throughout the entire story that wasn't telegraphed long beforehand. During chapter 8/14 I messaged my friend what I thought the ending would be, and two days later messaged them "I was right and I hate it."
It's like they looked at the first two, and concluded that they could get away with a cliche filled plot without the characters and general fun that carried the first two.
I liked 3 but man the original is just does so much things better.
Should I still buy it, and is it worth the time?
@@03e-210a oh 100% it's awesome. I enjoyed it.
every other chapter in this game has a big DO IO BAYONETTA moment, it really loses its specialness when it feels like an obligation that the game must do rather than something special. everything was big so nothing was
I can really tell you worked on this video to perfection, Dinkley. Michael Bay-onetta killed me 😂
Yesterday was a good day you were going to be a little late but I was going to go to the store and get a few things done and I will be there in a few minutes late so I can go to the store and get a few things done and then I'll be there in a few minutes and then I'll be back in the morning and I will be there in about it to get it done but I will be there in about it to get it done but I will be there in about it to get it done but I will be there in about it to get it done but I will be there in about it but I will be there in about it but I will be there in about it but I will be there in about it but I will be there in about it but I will be there in about it but I will be there in about it but
Auto complete wouldn't give me anything substantial so you'll just have to accept this cluster of nonsense....
and I will be there in about it to get the vaccine and I will be there in about it to get the results back to you and let me know if you need anything from me and I will be there in about it to get the truck and I will be there in about it to get the truck and I will be there in about it to get it done but I will be there in about it to get the car to get it done but I will be there in about it to get the truck and I will be there in about it to get the truck and I will be there in about it to get the truck and I will be there in about it to get the truck and I will be there in about it to get the truck and I will be there in about it to get the truck and I will be there in about it to get it done but I will be there in about it to get it done but I will be there in about it to get it done but I will be there in about it to get it done 👍
Bayonetta 3 is truly an amazingly... cinematic game. Michael Bay would have fun with this.
"The most cutscenes out of every game in the series and the least story out of every game in the series" Borderlands 3 be like
That’s impressive cause the cutscenes in Bayo 1 felt like whole ass short films at times
“Meet me on bridge” Lilith this could have been an email
The story and sewer green color pallet killed it for me. I miss fighting angels and infernal demons mostly. That and the whole multiverse bs was exhausting.
Dunkey hasn’t missed at all this year octopath 2 review is what I’m waiting for now
Project Square review when
He is going to use an AI to make the review for him
"Your excellency" 100x
>proceeds to play for 20 hours without using the boost mechanic and then calls all jrpgs shit
ah, such riveting commentary
@@Sarmathal I agree with this comment, though I haven’t actually read it yet.
diehard bayonetta fan but plat really dropped the ball on this one for me. bayo 1's combat was the perfect foundation for a deep combat system to evolve through a whole franchise.
i don't really understand why people aren't generally super pissed about the change from weapon pairs to having only one weapon usable at a time. that was the best and most unique thing about bayonetta's combat. could you imagine all the weapons they give you in bayo 3, and on top of that being able to use them in pairs, and on top of that monster summons???? bayo 3 could have been amazing /:
I was expecting a supercut of the dozen cutscenes where Bayonetta points her gun at somebody with a stern look on her face and doesn't fire or say anything as the bad guy drones on his monologue. Did these people play the first game to know what Bayonetta usually does in these situations?
she does actually shoot people in cutscenes quite abit in this game
"...to know what Bayonetta usually does in these situations?"
Strip naked and say something vaguely erotic?
The Balder cutscene in Bayo 1 that lasts nearly 10 minutes would love to know your location.
@@ninjagoboy46 tbh she probably didn't do anything because Cereza was in Balder's arms.
Gotta say you are one lean video making writing machine. Gotta hold off on watching this one until I beat the game myself. Many kudos and hope you are getting enough sleep.
Just finished the game and I really enjoyed it. Dunk, your comments are fair and warranted. I myself wished Viola's witch time mechanic was reworked so enemies wouldn't bounce 50 feet away from me after a successful parry. Story writing in any media is hard and is probably most difficult in video games. I think different kinds of games demand different ways of storytelling. The Yakuza games can fit a whole soap opera within 100 hours of cut scenes and the Legend of Zelda BOTW can fit 100 hours of storytelling with no cut scenes. Platinum Games did setup their cut scenes to have a lot explosive action, but they also included moments of silence where characters exchanged glances and the story writers trusted the player would understand the sentiment communicated there. Could the story content be improved? Yeah it could. Should the game omit the wonky platforming sections? Yeah probably. Should the game omit the game play systems that aren't the main combat system? Maybe, but I did like playing as huge Godzilla monsters because its fun and shows Bayonetta is a beast. I could not help but shed a tear at the end of this game's conclusion, but I do appreciate your criticisms Dunkey as they are insightful and are intended to help future games become better.
@@carlitos.reviews You've expressed pretty much exactly my thoughts, I enjoyed the experience from start to finish. I liked the new additions and actually didn't mind the exploring and platforming because you get to experiment with the movement capabilities of your demons and not only the combat part. I loved Viola and the story, though I agree it can be improved and I can see where the complaints come from but for me it was pretty much just what I wanted
This is exactly why, as cool as giant monsters definitely are on a purely conceptual level, they're usually not a very good idea in actual gameplay practice for a lot of reasons. If you aren't absolutely certain you can nail it, I'd say it's better to avoid monsters that are drastically huger than the player character entirely. A fun fight always beats an annoying fight, no matter how much of a flashy setpiece that annoying fight is. And not even being able to tell what's happening because the camera system simply can't properly communicate a fight at that scale is never fun.
3:37 "where is knack?"
Dunkey asking the real questions
Fr
The only good games have Knack in them.
Easily the best bayonetta game since bayonetta 2
It might be me but I like the first game a little bit more
@@criticalf0ll0w16 good taste. bayonetta 1 easily the best.
Bayonetta 1 is the best game tbh
All 3 are good
@@jspantonio8807 This one isn't
The only games that get a more serious toned review from the Dunk are those that must have truly dissapointed him. Great review, keep up the amazing work!
It's hard to say, I feel the same with dunkey where the third did leave me wanting a bit more. But the combat is a solid upgrade overall. I didn't really hate the story either, but the game did feel like it did drag on a bit. Overall this was a good review on dunkey's part cause you can feel him explaining the pros and cons of the game. That, and the Train-Saw weapon is very satisfying.
did you just review a review?
@@clintshidwood4511 Yes he did!
Dunky: If devil may cry is a game where you try kill things and look awsome bayoneta is a game where you look for your character.
Me: remembers every part with V
V almost ruined the game for me, he was horrible to play as
@Pointless Rat Race but tbh V is easiest to play as for new players (based on every play trough I watched of different yputubers) but for not new players he is so boring to play 😭😭
V wouldve been good if his pets attacked and canceled instantly, like an extension of himself instead of summons
I think v is cute but its telling that hes the only character i never bother using in bloody palace
nah V was hype tbh. you’re just not supposed to play him like you do with the others.
It's amazing how I knew exactly how this game would play out just from the trailer
Man, you're so amazing.
@@mojajaja you joke
But people play the game and have no idea how it plays out and keep hyping shit
My favorite thing about Bayonetta 2 is that it was just the first game with less fluff. No insta-death QTEs, fewer minigames, less annoying cutscenes, ect. So to hear the third went back to bad habits is very disappointing.
It got rid of the crap but the combat and enemy design was worse, additionally it overly relied on witch time.
Sure, but at the same time bayo2 is very unbalanced and unforgiving if you're somehow "middle" player for action games. I'd rather have QTEs but combat I can enjoy than a fact that I have to *really* sweat to be good. Wasn't an issue for bayo1.
The Playing-as-Bayonetta parts are so much fun
And the Non-Bayonetta parts made me want to turn the game off
Someone addressed the god awful camera!!! Hats off to you.
This game straight up triples down on my biggest beef with bayo 1: and that's the unwanted minigames.
The core gameplay is too strong for platinum to just keep tossing tedious distractions at us.
The game is at it's best when you are in the witch trials. Enemy variety skyrockets and it's all combat. No fuss or frills. Just the meat of the gameplay.
If you are a bayo fan, get the game, and unlock everything, and get your butt to the witch trials. And that's the game.
Dunkey was able to make an entire video about Bayonetta 3. Incredible.
The story is literally a fever dream held together with wet paper towel and scotch tape. So so so so so bad. I am glad people enjoyed the combat improvements but I feel alone in thinking it wasn't even that fun. Really felt like "gain distance, use demon slave, repeat". Maybe I just "don't get" the combat system since it seems to be overall well adored. Camera was clunky and felt basically unplayable unless docked. Didn't much care for the Niphlheim portals either, most of them felt pretty cheap. I avoided them about halfway through the game. Really appreciated this review.
dunky, love your reviews. So much awesome analytical info. Amazing for those who are interested in Game Design. And I love your humor endlessly. Thank you for what you do. ❤
While the gameplay was always what had me coming back to the first Bayonetta, the mystery and intrigue of the plot was what made it a good story. It had a good balance between being fun and flirty and feeding you pieces of the puzzle. You're right there alongside amnesiac Bayonetta seeing each event/memory and wondering what it means. Who is this vague creepy voice I keep hearing in my head, what are the "eye's of the world", what is this weird cult town about and why do I have memories of being here before? Why is gary oak challenging me to a pokemon battle every other chapter and why is he a hot blonde dommy mommy? Why is there a little girl who looks just like me. Am I my own mom?
I don't want to be that guy but multiverse stories are almost always the same kind of garbage. They try to make it seem like there's some greater evil that's always the most boring villain in the series and none of those more interesting villains you fought before matter at all. People who write these stories seem to forget that little things are what give life to a world. The average person doesn't give a shit about the greater good or the universe. We'd much rather watch the more down to earth struggles of a well written character or two. They could have made it about Viola as she tries to live in the shadow of her incredible mom while trying to revive the Umbra witch clan. She has a heavy burden to bear being the only successor to the last of the previous generation of witches while still being a novice herself. As the worlds affairs get out of hand, maybe she has to find other people with potential to join her cause. Without sages and witches, the angels and demons would be free to wage war on earth and the new generation would stand united as one clan to stop them. I don't know it's an idea.
I'm also not a fan of the giant monster fights when your character is basically an ant on the screen. At least in the first Bayonetta when you fight the Cardinal virtues the focus is always on Her. It's kind of a problem in a game where you are rewarded for not taking damage and dodging when you can't see your character in a fight.
The average person cares average the greater good but they can't imagine universal or multiversal much less global stakes. The problem is that they're using a generic serious bad guy for this, Green Goblin was a great villain in No Way Home and that was a multiverse story.
Multiverse stories are always huge cop outs found at the creative end of a franchise.
I totally get it. The fight with super madama butterfly where she forces the creatures eye open and the little bayo on her shoulder punches the shit out of the eye was when I went "Oh man, more of THAT"
I thought that the great stuffs about multiverse stories are less about the villain causing it and more about the characters, like power rangers or kamen riders interacting with one another. They're often not A-tier plot, but we know the characters so they can be pretty fun to watch.
@@Hell_O7 Yeah exactly
Anyone else feel like Dunkey is their portal to times when youtube was good?
i agree, i think its because of his consistent quality
Yes absolutely
He uses an old-school and refreshing style of comedy, not the clickbaity screaming in your face attention-seker style
@@NekuKodoku Yep his quality is ALWAYS top notch!
@@Rafael57YT yeah lol that's for sure. And the amount of work he puts into each video is incredible
No dislikes? Another perfect review!
4.2K L VS 2.5K D
how many fucking times is someone going to make this joke on a dunkey video
I'm not sure if it's five year olds doing it or bots it could be both
Here you go. One dislike from ME!
@@THE-STREET-HERO also wtf does this mean
@@Grimnoire It's just impressive he's never even gotten 1 dislike in 37 years of being strand type gamer.
what also kind of harms it is that the enemy is really just 1 guy and you don't really destroy them in a graphic or silly ways as before, like the angels used to get messed up as the fight goes on until getting finished off gruesomely/humiliatingly! the slime guys just... idk more video gamingly explode. so do the bayonettas.
the abilities they give you are cool as heck though
you can tell that Nintendo exerted alot more of their influence on this game. instead of Bayonetta getting more naked as you do a bigger combo she just transforms into a devil trigger form.
omg yes.
Old games had Angels loosing armour and skin, and get all bloody. You can visually tell how easy you were whooping their butts.
Singularity and his homonculus drones were so boring. The designs of all of these enemies were a huge step down from the angels and demons. In the first 2 games fighting felt like dancing and the enemies were designed to be good dance partners. In this game, it seems like the enemies are just waiting to be kicked around by the large demons.
@@zengamer21 Yeah I really liked their designs but they were a bit too stiffy for me. Would have liked if they had more personality in their movements. Maybe they could have animations based around traditional hindi dances.
On one hand I think it's unfair to compare Bayonetta 3, a Switch game, to DMC5, a PS4/Xbox One game... but it's so hard not to since Bayo is the only true rival left to DMC.
Final fantasy XVI will also be worth comparing
yet another video with no dislikes. congratulations dunkey.
Bravo
Tell me you really aren't that stupid and that what you're saying is complete satire cuz if you don't know you have been living under a rock they remove the dislike button on UA-cam completely if you don't know 🤦♂️😒
@@dankdaze42069 you’re wrong. dunkey is a great UA-camr and he makes great videos nobody could dislike. so stop being a hater
I wish I could see how many times you've written this on other videos
Still waiting on a DMC and Bayonetta cross over game. If they play it smart, they could just make a fun ass game with the characters. Story can be whatever as long as its not hot garbage and has some attention to it.
@videogamedunkey this has been a pretty rough week and let me just say I needed this laugh more than anything. Thank you!!
Even though I really disagree with Dunkey in this video, I still want to take a moment to applaud him for how well thought out and logical his videos are. Even when I disagree with him, he still makes valid points about why he likes or dislikes a game, and even if he fucking despises a game, I can usually tell if I’m gonna like it or not regardless. He’s somehow able to pack more information, comedy, and wit into sub 5 minutes than most reviewers can into 3 hours of video. Never change, Dunk.
Which is why he made a video about critics. And the importance of finding a critic that relates to your values. Or, respecting a critics opinion because you know where they stand on things vs just some random review of nothing
Dunkeys video titles are so funny, he’s such a funny guy
You're right. They are funny.
is this a bot
@@conorneligan7694 no it’s a title
No he’s not!
I really enjoyed playing Bayo3 mainly because of how fun the combat is. In terms of story, I prefer Bayo1 and 2 just because of how convoluted and fun it was. Bayo3’s story was pretty cut and dry. I agree that they were too serious with this one, but it makes sense for the ending
“This is like... this is like err... I'm sorry, I just can't do this, Caroline please bring the kids back!”
- Gex
- No, Gex! Only when you admit being a Reddit mod is NOT A REAL JOB!
The way the multiverse bayos die is the Stupidest thing I have ever seen
Yes bayo 2 has established that bayo has some severe lack of spacial awareness but the amount of time bayos gets blindsided in this game is insane
The way the bayo 3 multiverse jeanne died was also very stupid 😪
when Vergil said, "Foolishness Dante, I am Bayonetta 3" I cried
When dante said it’s bayonetting time I started shiting gold
This game is revolutionary in the farming genre
2:03 Okay, I know I'm absolutely not the only one that thought Dunkey was about to say, "No! This story is about Bayonetta hitting the griddy!" here.
So glad to hear a refreshing perspective that isn't constant praise. You never fail to give it to us straight, Dunk
Blinders are on real thick boyo
I guess you didn't read many reviews then if you think that.
@@blakty2 ok
@@TonyJenn ok
Literally the best moments of plot feel like a modern KH game.
the intro is solid, and so is the conclusion. But everything in between was just kinda serviceable and thats it.
I wouldn't say the conclusion is solid though, it came across very rushed and unpleasing to me. Sure the characters spent some time on screen together and the twist is given decently well but there's not much of a reason for them to actually care this much about each other besides multiverse shenanigans
Kh2 and kh1 at least had a memorable final dungeon and you knew that the cliamx was coming near. Literally the last playable stage in Bayonetta 3 is damn Paris (the rest is a pure corridor)
@@keyjohnjo194 sad but true
@@thewallsspeaktome3507 agreed, the conclusion just got me dissapointed, sigurd doesnt have any motivation, theres maybe a paragraph in the book or something but nothing thats all that interesting
Kamiya has always been a bit indulgent in his works. DMC1 and bayo 1 had space harrier sequences, and bayo had the racer level. I don't know to what extent kamiya was involved in the development of this game, but it seems like the proliferation of gimmick mode levels could have really used an editor to tell kamiya "bruh this is too much." What i'm hearing about the story is also a real shame because underneath all the pomp and gaudy aesthetics bayo really had tight characterization and enthralling arcs
ah well, there are much worse things to be than the third best bayonetta
Kamiya's dicisions with Shmup sections were fine to be honest. they're on brand for an arcade fanatic like him. (I mean, the guy even made Sol Cresta, finally getting the shmupiness out of his system.) But Bayo 3, (which is not directed by Kamiya) does slow things down a bit too much here and there since the game takes a more godzilla approach to combat, even entire sections exclusive to them.
Only Viola has some consistent pacing.
I remember when Dunkey accounced he won't make any League videos, I was afraid what else he can post on this channel.
And to be honest I think his style and jokes are more clever and entertaining than ever.
Cheers, Dunk!
I guess you could say, it’s one hell of a game
All that talk about mid as hell story telling and crappy gameplay features then bam, three seconds into the combat segment and Im sold....
The game was good but playing it just made me wish I was playing Bayo 1 or 2 instead
I can't believe edgy Dante from DmC reboot transitioned just to play a role of Bayonetta's daughter. Stunning and brave!!! 👍👍👍
You know, about that "not being able to tell what's happening on screen during a fight" criticism... yeah, that's pretty much a a staple of Platinum Games right there. I was playing Nier Automata and, at a point, I was pretty much just smashing buttons and hoping the fight ended soon. I literally had no idea if I was winning, I was just relying on the auto healing and crazy combos. Difference is, with Nier Autamata, even when I wasn't fully sure if I was playing right sometimes, the story kept yanking me forward, so it was never a big deal. At worse, I was confused and disoriented. But when the combat slowed down a bit, or it was a one-on-on, OH BUDDY. Nothing quite like it.
Cause that game was written by the goat Yoko Taro and this one was not
tbh it feels like Bayo 3 is a little worse though, maybe because of all the tiny details they added (e.g. compare wicked weaves to demon masquerades), plus big arenas with big summons which make your character super tiny on your screen. Everything is shinier and flashier, too, which slightly obscures the flashes that are supposed to be generic tells for enemy attacks
It's gotten worse with their games over time.
I started taking epilepsy seriously when I played Bayonetta 1 on ps3. It was my 4th hour of the day and so much was happening in the game, I suddenly got dizzy and I wanted to vomit. This game gave me headaches, but the story and the combat always kept me going. When I finished the game, I was extremely happy with the ending. I searched for the sequel but they didn't launch it on ps. Anyway, Bayonetta has much love from me, it gave me epilepsy and made me stronger, it also cured my epilepsy.
Bayonetta 3 is the Knack game we always wanted
Nah, the bayonetta franchise is still relevant and has descent sales numbers.
Bayonetta 3 really makes you feel like you are killing a camera, definitely has a little something for every one!
Actually the camera has killed me, numerous times
This meme really makes me FEEL like I'm living in 2019 again when it was actually relevant
Don't mind the haters IGN, keep doing your thing.
I too am entertained by the same unfunny comment on every single video for the past 5 years like an autistic 4 year old
Combat so intense you'll get lost , go through a mid life crisis and wake up.
Still some of the best video game commentary on UA-cam.
What others spend an hour rambling about, you distill into a lighthearted 5 minutes.
I would say the low point is playing as other characters. When playing as Bayonetta i felt this game had the best gameplay out of all of them. The inclusion of new demons and weapons from other versions of Bayonetta, as well as being able to upgrade them how you want made the combat feel so customizable and unique. I had so much fun with this game so i’m surprised Danko didn’t like this one.
Tbf he didn’t say he didn’t like it. But he does point out some glaring issues. Overall this is probably my favorite Bayonetta, at worse second favorite. But the issues Dunkey describes are all there. And it’s not uncommon for him to focus on a game’s problems when global reviews are mostly positive, because he gives the audience some extra details about obvious cons that mainstream reviewers are pretty much ignoring. He did the same with elden ring: he liked the game yet half the review is all about the fucked up balancing. It’s honestly one of the things I most appreciate about his reviews
7/10 perfect.
Thanks dunk
It also still suffers from the fact that, while you can do a lot of different combos, there's really no reason to do it. Players naturally gravitate to the most efficient ways in playing games, so you're still most likely to spam powerful moves instead of alternating and using different moves for different situations. I mean sure, you have a combo "points" bonus system, but DMC actually introduced moves that are only useable at max style ranking (like Dante's quick SDT switch), if not usable functional emotes (like Vergil's spinning blade taunt). Points system are just so primitive these days.
Great point
Square, square, triangle in the classic god of war comes to mind.
Not stopping people from spamming riding dragon lol
The combo system is the same that Bayo 1/2 used, but in Bayo3 completing a full combo is crucial to add the demon slave finisher.
Special moves are a single input but their damage output is insanely lower, the trade off being that you can send your enemy flying for easier combos or close gaps. Taunting has always been used to max the aggro on an enemy to gain more witch times and a good 80% of the weapons act in distinct ways.
So no, I don’t agree with you in the slightest. Spamming the same combo only works at normal difficulty, on higher it quickly falls off. Also, the goal of this game, just like in DMC, is to complete the chapters with a high score: resorting to the same combos doesn’t help with your multiplier
The combo system is the same that Bayo 1/2 used, but in Bayo3 completing a full combo is crucial to add the demon slave finisher.
Special moves are a single input but their damage output is insanely lower, the trade off being that you can send your enemy flying for easier combos or close gaps. Taunting has always been used to max the aggro on an enemy to gain more witch times and a good 80% of the weapons act in distinct ways.
So no, I don’t agree with you in the slightest. Spamming the same combo only works at normal difficulty, on higher it quickly falls off. Also, the goal of this game, just like in DMC, is to complete the chapters with a high score: resorting to the same combos doesn’t help with your multiplier
Many time when I was playing this game; I just started slamming buttons and wondered to myself, “Is this actually what I’m supposed to be doing?” And the game goes, “Ting! Yeah that was right.”
Even though I love the Wonderful 101, during the last stages this is how I felt. I had to put that game down for a year and started fresh to finally beat it.
to be honest thats how i played 1 and 2, but at least in those games i was punished for it. im not good at these sorts of fighting games or practicing combos or whatnot. but even for me the combat in this game felt like it played itself for the most part, and i would have rather had some challenge to at least make me try to learn the games systems
Bayonetta 3, co-directed by Michael Bayonetta, is the third installment to the Bayonetta franchise. It packs a lot of action that you can't even see you're Bayonetta while fighting other Bayonettas. It is truly one of the bayonetta games of all time.
It's a shame Bayo 3 lacks heart. Bayo 2 had heart, but it was split in two. Bayo 1, now, that's one of the most focused and heartfelt games I've ever played. It's my most replayed game. I will replay it years from now. I wasn't able to replay Bayo 2, and I wasn't even able to finish 3.... it's a shame cos so many of 3's gimmicks look FUCKING AWESOME, but hearing how the story plays out, and knowing how boring most of the gameplay is, i just can't do it.
What is having "heart" according to you.
@@Minarreal hashimoto working on the scenario as well, keeping Kamiya in line so he didn't go full George Lucas mode.
@@Minarreal when you can feel that the people who made it really care about the game, whether it be the story, characters, gameplay... bayo 1 had a lot of love for itself and for old SEGA games, bayo 2 had a lot of love for bayo herself, and bayo 3. uhh. if anything it's a platinum games homage that loves Astral Chain...
@@tipsy634 This comment of yours is just pure platitudes, "when you can feel the people who made it really care about the game" is something anyone can refute by bringing up they felt the opposite for whatever reason. Hence, I still don't get what you mean.
Astral Chain has no business in 3 aside from being referenced here and there, so, if that's a representation of love and care by the devs, I suppose it can be said 3 received lots of love because there are many other references, including to the previous Bayonetta games.
@@tipsy634 i see what you mean. bayo 1 and 2 had a distinct focus on certain things that you could recognize, whereas bayo 3 is like a... giant bag of ideas where a lot of them work and a lot of others don't.
0 dislikes as always, great content dunke!
Rumour has it Dunkey is still figuring out how to unlock Green Goblin as a playable character.
impressive that he didn't even mention the boycot controversy, truly the most unbiased game reviewer.
That's dunkey for ya
It also didn't even end up mattering or changing anything
@@thekiss2083 I'm pretty sure it caused the game to sell more copies than if it was never announced
dunkey rates it 3/3 a perfect score
Got to play it twice
nah 3/3 = 1 out of 10, too much water
Zero dislikes on his video review, because it's a perfect video of a perfect game.
mans still putting out the best game reviews on youtube and its not even close
I think I'm about halfway through the game, and so far I agree with everything you said. Bayonetta 2 is the best one
*1
Nah 1 is.
1 and 3 have WAAY better combat systems
@@xenokos1602 Hell nah, Bayonetta 2 tops 1 in every single way
@@HenryWayat it literally dosent the game literally dosent want you to combo lol
@@HenryWayat The first one is best because it gives you so many options that enable you to make your own approach to combat in a stylish way. B2, despite being a good time, takes a lot of that away and forces you into a more efficient yet stylistically compromised way of fighting (even the taunts are bad, good lord...). B3 has a lot of fun stuff in it too, but the whole time its just throwing shit at the wall REGARDLESS of what sticks or not, which is notoriously bad game design. B1 is like the RE4 of character action games, and that is a hill I'm prepared to die on
Dunkey always has the best reviews.
Dunkey makes very valid points. But I still loved the game immensely
You make some good points, dunk. But have you considered that this Bayonetta has the best hairstyle of the three? For me, that makes this easily the game of the decade. And I haven't even played it yet.
Think again you rascal! Clearly 2 has the best style!
What substances are you on?? Bayo 2's short hair is the best one
To each their own taste. But sorry, I gotta side with Bayo 2 here.
Her hairstyle in 3 seems out of character, I wouldn't have thought Bayo would have the same braids she wore as a little girl 500 years ago. It's too cutesy for her
@@starpops02 well to be fair, its not the *same* bayonetta. Its the little Cereza from the first game grown up