What is the BEST Possible Pokemon Type Combination?
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I sat down to think about what the BEST possible Pokemon type combination is! What do you think?
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You mean today's wideo ?
@@hattruck8607 even wolfey makes a typo occasionally dw
Always
Fire fairy typing would have been cool :0
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Wolfey: “a ghost/normal type doesn’t exist yet”
5 days later: Hisuian zorua and zoroark: “bonjour”
about to say this lmao
IM SAYING
It looked so much like Ice/Fire. The attack Zoroak did in the trailer was obv Ghost so I guessed Ghost/Ice or Ghost/Fire.
Normal/Ghost ist truely weird though. Can't wait to see how it's playing out
@@Nigolasy if GF gives him a decent movepool and balanced stats between defence and offence it could be very useful. (I don't expect broken stats but at least don't make him have very low defensive stats otherwise it will die instantly most of the times)
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Steel type is like that one friend everyone wanna hang out with.
I feel like Steel is one of the best types to slap into a Pokemon to make it instantly better. One of the best because I’d argue Ghost is in the running, gaining 2 immunities, though not always the best since adding it to Psychic isn’t the best idea. The immunity to Poison and resistance to Fairy really isn’t hard to argue against.
@@PansyPops flying is also super good
Ice type tho
Unless you're rock.
My boy Aggron...
Steel is bad
I hope we get a Normal-Ghost type mon soon. I would certainly add it on the team.
Me with Porygon 2 and gouirgeist on my double team: we don't have one?
Maybe a Bewear regional form? I have always thought that Normal/Ghost would suit a possessed toy theme.
I think some kind of ghost whisperer kind of Pokémon, maybe a regional form of Gardevoir? Like it mutated it's empathy powers to feel the dead?
@@tiredtortoise3396 or an original mon. I was thinking of what basic/normal/tradional ghost image that has been imbedded to us. And the most of us considers a white floating blanket/cloth, a ghost. So maybe a pokemon inspired by that idea/imagery? I wouldn't complain about it.
@@Chinatsu_Kano Good point! That would be interesting.
Ghost is weak to ghost
Normal is weak to fighting
BUT
Normal/ghost is completly immune to both fighting/ghost STABs while having super effective ghost moves to hit it back.
It completly turns the tables.
It’s wonderful! And ofc I came here right after the new Hisuian forms being confirmed! So exciting!!!
@@RaptorzTheGamer Marshadow meeting Hisuian Zoroark: understandable, have a nice day
@@asuddenredfox3626 I just saw it and i am super hyped!
Normal/Ghost is the inverse of Ghost/Dragon - where pokemon like Giratina and Dragapult are quite literally their own worst enemies (and are the only two pokemon that are like this, as far as I know), Hisuian Zorua and Zoroark will be the only pokemon that can't STAB attack themselves.
I do'nt rly know if i just read it wrong(not a native speaker), but ghost does not hit fighting super effetive but neutral.
Sure the dual type would be hit super effektive but not both types, if that makes sense ;)
funny how a couple days later, ghost/normal has become the typing of Hisuian Zorua/Zoroark.
what is hisuian
The name of regional forms that existed during ancient sinnoh in Legends Arceus.
WAIT ITS GHOST JOR.AML
WAIT WHAT
Ghost/Normal ? What is it Danny Phantom?
For the two type combos that don’t currently exist: I could picture a fairy-ground type as something like an earth elemental, maybe a dwarf or a gnome. Then I think a ghost-normal type could be a bedsheet ghost Pokémon, a generic (so, “normal”) kind of ghost, or maybe a shrodingers-cat type Pokémon that is both alive and dead.
Schrodinger cat Pokemon is such a good idea
If we ever get a Fairy/Ground I hope it's based off of the Pink Fairy Armadillo
Shuppet and Banette should be Ghost/Normal imo, like they are in some Rom hacks
A regional form of Golurk that switches Ghost for Fairy could be interesting. Instead of being animated by spirit energy, it's powered up by nature energy.
@@ayzix-polytopia3854 To go whole hog with that theme they could give it a signature ability (call it "superposition") where its form/move typing when attacking changes to monotype normal or ghost when it hits (STAB moves only so its distinct from Protean) with or is hit by an attack where one of its types would be superior. That would not only be extra consistent with the thought experiment (since the cat's wave function collapses to alive OR dead once interacted with), but give it no weaknesses, three immunities, and neutral or super effective STAB coverage against every type.
"We won't be considering metagame"
"Also, water and fairy is really good against types commonly seen in metagame"
xD
Primarina: also loses to Venusaur lmao
@@Saviarai-Dravolika Venusaur ain't gonna like a Specs Ice Beam or Psychic though
@@doubleace11554 Venusaur outspeeds specs Primarina and OHKO’s with SB
@@BamboozledxFern yes, but he can't safely switch in though, as it gets OHKO'd
@@doubleace11554 yeah i did the calcs, no need to tell me what i already know
On ground/fairy: I actually thought about that when I was using mega diancie: there is no mon able to resist earth power and moonblast, plus there is diamond storm for more coverage
There are only 3 that resist that I can think of: Steel/Flying, Poison/Flying, Fire/Flying.
So if the ground fairy type learns a coverage move super effective to flying then it will be flawless offensive coverage
Actually only electric works here for perfect coverage because of Steel Flying only being weak to fire and electric.
Technically, Shedinja would.
Skarmory, Talonflame, Crobat, Charizard, Corviknight.
To me I would make a Ghost/Normal type a animal of some sort
was expecting Dark/Ghost since it’s the classic no weakness type, but then the Fairy type came in and nerfed them
fairy types came out 7 years ago get over it
Dark/Ghost sucks offensively, as both of the typings are effectively redundant to the other.
Cough cough spiritomb cough cough
@@agrihonoberjorn1612 Spiritomb is a terrible, though. It flounders all the way down in PU where it's basically a not-totally-unusable version of Sableye. Mega Sableye is a much better Ghost/Dark Pokemon.
@@Bobsican while ice ground who got honorable mention only relevant for speedy pokemon
I feel like fairy/fire would be such a good offensive typing as well. imagine hitting dragon, steel, grass, bug, ice, fighting, dark for super-effective damage 🔥
Its an amazing typing, I thought it would be in the honorable mentions. Ghost/fairy would also be an incredible typing
@@luisnorbert1695 That's Mimikyu. And we know it's a monster if it gets to do it's thing.
if you are into that I fully recommend Pokemon Insurgence, a fan game. It's amazing for many reasons and one of them is Delta Pokemon e.g. a Fire/Fairy Chandelure :)
And then you get walled by Fire types
Still more than manageable, however
@@Bladius_ if it gets* as in if your opponent is dumb
I have a particular fondness for Rock/Grass, good old Cradily. Taking the two types with the most weaknesses and making something with fewer weaknesses than either and fairly good coverage against some of the main weaknesses of those types is such a blessing... for Monotype teams. To make it actually good would probably require something that really makes up for its lack of resistances.
Wonderful video production by the way.
mm, I wish rillaboom had been rock/grass
Only type to resist both is steel, i think... rock deals with most of grass' weakesses, grass with rock's. Cradily is very underrated as a mon in general
@@martinus_mars I have a Deep Ocean themed team, and Cradily works wonders both as a Trick Room Meteor Beam attacker in Doubles and more defensively with things like Stealth Rock and Recover in Singles. One of the stars of my team.
If you would do a (duel)type rock paper scissors type of game, rock-grass is actually the most common typing in the best strategy, so (in a theoretical sence) you're very right in liking the typing
Cradily is such a menace on monotype rock teams i love it
I think this was one of the most entertaining wolfey videos ever
*wideo
Up there with 1 of every pokemon vs 1 billion lions
The editing is so good!
The corsola cup
@@joshualee4692 very true.
I had a strong feeling Steel/Fairy would win. That typing is insane.
fire: ima end this whole typing’s career
srsly tho fairy don’t do anything against that and steel weak to it
F
because you’re like 9. Haven’t even played the other games I guarantee you
Never give a fairy a sword.
and they gave it to fucking busted ass zacian, zacian is supposed to be a steel and fighting, and zamazenta steel and fairy, like just because zacian is a girl doesnt make it a fairy dammit
@@marfz what a weirdly negative comment
The video is worth watching but here's a tldw for anyone interested;
Honorable mentions:
1) Steel/Dragon
2) Steel/just about anything (grass, ghost, water, flying, & bug)
3) Ground/Ice
4) Poison/Dark
5) Water/Ground
Top 5:
5) Ground/Flying
4) Fairy/Water
3) Fairy/Ground
2) Ghost/Normal
1) Fairy/Steel
Fairy steel isn’t even that good tho
@@Trim1013 I'm literally just summarizing the video, if you have qualms with the list then watch the video and post your complaints for the creator to see. They make a lot of good arguments that I agree with, but I'm not gonna defend someone else's opinions 🤷🏼♀️
@@johnmeadows569 okay jonathan please calm down
I don't think there's anything wrong with them making a ground/fairy type and I think they should make one eventually. Every type combo should have representation. Having said that, it doesn't have to be some legendary with monster stats or something with a great ability. It can just be a regular Pokemon with mediocre stats and abilities that won't be able to define a meta.
we talkin about Gamefreak here, u already know they're going to make that mon busted as hell. Since when have they ever cared about game balancing.
Honestly I like the type combination because it seems like it could have some really cool myth inspiration. Like, a pokemon inspired by one of the many earth gods in mythology, or just the concept of Mother Earth itself. Or maybe earth fae? The concepts seem really cool imo
@@discodog4582 maybe base it off izanagi lol. The story of the ancient god who built Japan from dirt seems like a good inspiration for fairy ground
@@devilrider39000000 game balancing is a myth, gen 1 pyschic overpowered, steel and dark op from gen 2- gen 6,
@@richard35791 I'm fully aware game balancing is a myth because Fairy type exists. GF logic: let's nerf an OP type with even more OP type.
I think a video talking through all the type combinations that currently do not exist would be very interesting, seeing how they could possibly play out or if they would see any viable competitive play.
Was really expecting to see Steel/Flying. Skarmory, Corviknight and Celesteela are all absolute beasts
I don't think so, they're good mostly because their counters aren't too prevalent in the game, aka electric and fire types. Also, roost and leech seed is what puts them over the top imo. The typing is definitely good, but it's peak is more circumstantial.
@@svx4401 wow, you must think Steel/Fairy is really bad, cause Fire may not be the most prevalent in the, game Ground is. Adding to that the two main pokemon with that typing have broken abilities and stats putting them over the top imo. I agree Steel/Fairy is definitely good, but it's peak is more circumstantial.
Excellent defensive type, but far more limited offensively, steel doesnt help too much when combined with flying
@@thekingdra487 actually, steel hits rock/ice for SE one of which resists flying. Electric and Steel are the only two types which resist dual stab, and while I agree that offensively it's not the best, it isnt useless.
The defensive typing leads to a very interesting dynamic and is extremely strong, as evidenced by the Pokémon that use it having sub optimal stats yet still seeing direct counter play like trapper magnezone.
Every generation, Skarmory has been a champ and it's not even that good soaking hits theoretically. Flying removed the most common weaknesses of steel (fighting and ground - with strong common moves like EQ, CC, Superpower etc). Steel also removes rock and ice for flying, two extremely common offensive typings flying struggle with.
I don't think it's the best typing, but it definitely deserves an honourable mention as I don't think there is another type combo that literally doesn't have a weak Mon.
@@hamdepaf6686 maybe read stuff before crying. I never claimed steel/flying wasn't good. I specifically said it is good, but the mons that have that typing have some other things going for them as well that makes them good, not just the typing. I never said it's "bad". Same with you saying I'll think fairy/steel is "bad". It's a decent combo, but the typing isn't all that great. Why isn't Mawile OU? The prime users of the dual typing are good because of busted stats and abilities. The best typing atm is probably ghost/dark, but no one's talking about it because people associate the type with pokemons that share it, so they'll think of sabeleye and spiritomb.
flying/electric is a really under-appreciated type imo. zapdos has the ability to run both extremely offensive and extremely defensive sets despite having only decent stats pretty much solely because the typing is just that good
@TinyHC relax 💀
@TinyHC none of it's stats are insane by today's standards. They are rather too balanced. You distribute base 600 in a poor way. Look at Kantonian Articuno: base 600, terrible stat distribution. Zapdos is solid because of typing and coverage. Its stats just don't hold it back.
@TinyHC Hey you're kinda stupid for that comment you made
@TinyHC since when zapdos has 600 BST? The legendary birds only have 580 BST. Before calling other people stupid, get your fact straight.
Emolga is decent in some meta games... Maybe
Personally I think defensive typing is a more important consideration than offensive typing. A lot of the time, you have coverage.
STAB coverage is really important
I think it depends on how you play. I personally use the strategy "they can't kill me if they are dead"
Both are very important, having STAB can be game changing since 50% is by no means a small boost. Types also mostly define what moves you will be able to use or not, while coverage is not always there when you need it (hello regieleki).
If what made a type good was mainly its defense, pokémon like Mamoswine and Weavile wouldn’t be as good as they are, for example.
Ice type is proof of this. Strong offensive type, catastrophically poor defensive type. Result: one of the worst types in the game. The fact that their moves are nearly ubiquitous on one of the strongest types in the game renders most actual Ice type Pokémon useless.
@@gubjorgm.2259 That's exactly how I play, too. Hence why I love really fast pokemon and built my first ever official pokemon team specifically to have STAB coverage against every type in the game at least once (except fighting apparently, but I still have a super effective move for that, it just doesn't get STAB; plus said non-STAB super effective move is on a pokemon that's immune to fighting anyway).
Hisuian Zoroark has a few words for you kind sir
I would love to see a Wolfey Wideo talking about how he would balance the typings better to stop some OP types and help the weaker typings
Make Bug resist Fairy or make Fairy lose that resistance to Bug
Give Ice a ground and water resistance.
giving fire a resistance to fairy is arguably why fire dark is so potent on inciroar tbh, although his ability and access to snarl and parting shot is why its so good lol
@@azurefoxbh9280 i'd argue fake out more than snarl
@@esme2754 no yeah i forgor about fake out, but that is the most standard move like if it can learn it just teach it too it
I really like these theory-essay videos!
same here
Me three
My prethoughts, starting wideo now. Steel/Fairy and Dragon/Water have always been some of my favorites from the ones that exist. Normal/Ghost would be cool if it existed but depends on stats but either way would be a good pivot type.
Now that freeze dry is used a lot, dragon/water pokemon wouldn't be as viable
@@levv7258 Yeah but the only one you run into it on is Kyurem and Alolan ninetails. Weavile and Arctozolt dont run it.
@@levv7258 and its hardly seen in VGC too.
Dragon/Water isn't bad but it has a massive problem: it barely resists anything. The quad resists to Fire and Water are really nice and the Steel resist is okay I guess but ......... that's it ? Wow, that's quite the lack of defensive utility.
@@sephikong8323 it has ice def x1. But yeah even palkia is rare to see
I'm sorry, but being with the channel for a bit now and watching the editing get this good makes my little heart wanna burst with joy.
Perhaps you could do a series like, "the best type to pair with ____" - The best type to pair with Dark, The best type to pair with Water, etc. Even if it doesn't exist yet.
Because while Dark-Ghost has only one weakness in fairy (which is a tough weakness to have), Ghost isn't a great type to pair with Dark because Dark already hit psychic and ghost 2x on its own (the same two types that Ghost 2x hits) - all ghost adds is the resistances to its weaknesses (bug and fighting). Dark paired with Fire resists the bug and fairy weaknesses but Dark doesn't do anything for Fire's weaknesses to Rock, Ground, and Water. Whereas a type pairing of Poison with Dark resists Dark's weaknesses to Fairy, Fighting and Bug, but at least Dark also immunes Poison's weakness to Psychic. Obviously this is what makes Drapion pretty good with only one weakness to Ground as well as some good abilities, moves, and held item combinations... But I reckon you could do a good job breaking down the other types like this.
What’s interesting is that Wolfey feels that Dark is the best type to pair with Fire.
@@RFE812 I don’t want to disagree with the world champ haha, but dark/fire suuuuucks 😂
The most unexpected was Ground / Fairy - I really, REALLY like that combo. I kinda wish we see a Pokemon with that type combo as long as its not busted OP stats & ability wise.
The biggest problem for a Ground/Fairy is movepool issues. Most Ground-Type Special moves suck, but so do most Fairy-Type physical moves. Play Rough being 90/90 sucks, because it (and, by extension, Zen Headbutt) don't stick to the standard set in Gen 1 by BoltBeam and Psychic- 90 BP at 100 accuracy, plus a secondary effect.
But, like, Special Ground coverage that you'd actually want to use begins and ends at Earth Power.
Like, Pixilate or a Ground equivalent could maybe help solve that issue, but then our hypothetical mon has the power necessary to wreck house. And, since the weaknesses come from Water, Ice, and Steel, one of which it hits back super-effectively with *its own STAB,* you really don't have too many worries.
@@elijahpadilla5083 fast mixed attacker would work
Eq moonblast fire blast stone edge moveslot
I looked into this a while back after reading a Reddit thread on it. After reading through the serebii movedex for far more time than I’m willing to admit I found:
Earthquake Play Rough Donphan, no stab on fairy but fun to run for the coverage in a playthrough
And... carbink/diancie with earth power and moonblast, pretty terrible defensive typing and no stab on ground but they’re not horrible, ignoring the mythical Pokémon I always hated carbink for either being sturdy or just being a pain in playthroughs and still do because it can only learn earth power by move tutor (why did I buy both sun and moon and not wait and buy one of the ultras...)
Altaria- um... can learn earthquake? (How?) Gets stab moonblast and pixilate on mega but even though it has equal physical and special no sense splitting them
Sylveon- can learn dig... which seems both adorable and wrong but low physical
Also just throw hidden power ground on a moonblaster and you’re set
So not very viable, but fun to run in playthroughs
@@elijahpadilla5083 But theres Spirit Break (Ik its a exclusive move but still) 75bp, 100%, 100% drops sp. atk
@@skullerclawerbandicoot7966 I’m betting spirit break will getting wider distribution next gen like how Mystical Fire and other signature moves did
I love videos like these. Would you ever consider looking at individual overpowered or underpowered Pokémon and discussing how you would rebalance them?
This
Before I see first place:
I think Steel/Flying will win it. This type is actually amazing especially defensively but also offensively too with only electric resisting both stabs.
They literally made magnet pull just to make one pokemon (magneton/magnezone) specifically act as a permanent nerf to specifically just Steel/Flying.
And even this laser focused nerf doesn’t stop it being top quality.
And it's even more true when you realise how little Pokemon they've made with this typing compared to same of the worse ones.
I personally prefer Steel/Bug since it only has one weakness.
I also thought it would be Steel/Flying, they have good synergy
Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think magneton in gen1 had magnet pull and I can't remember any steel/flying gen1 mons so it wasn't made specifically for that typing
@@spand9043 There were no abilities until Gen3 and Steel type was introduced in Gen2. While I can agree that the pokemon wasn't specifically made to counter steel types I think we can say everything else around it (ability, moveset) was what made it so good at countering them.
I know you specifically excluded abilities but from the moment I saw this video I knew normal ghost had to be up there. And if you give it levitate like so many ghosts get, it becomes even more terrifying as a you mentioned, ground is a powerful offensive type. 4 immunities on one pokemon with only one weakness and no resisting blindspots is absolutely terrifying.
People will just stall it with toxic or some other setup, as any other way of fighting it sounds like suicide.
@@Da1337Man just press knock off lmao, excluding coverage considerations Bisharp is a pretty complete answer to it.
I mean, if you're a normal type it would be pretty strange to levitate
@@pierpaoloperseguiti7492 Normal is just things that represent real world creatures and objects that aren't better represented by a type, which is why do many rats and birds are normal, and ghost is ghost. Why wouldn't the ghost of a rat levitate?
WolfeyVGC: The Normal-Ghost type doesn't exist.
Nintendo 6 Days Later: Presenting Hisuian Zorua and Zoroak they are Normal-Ghost types.
Me: That went from 0 to 2 real quick
I'm still waiting for the heroic bunny knight fighting fairy type.
@@janehrahan5116 oddly specific but okay
Well, we don't have Fairy/Fighting bunny yet..... but we do have a Fairy/Fighting robot now 😅
we all can see how the quality in this videos have improved over time. good job for both of you, wolfey and the editor.
Agreed.
"I hope there isn't a Fairy/Ground type Pokemon"
Gen 9: Yeah, about that...
steel wrecks it
@@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 No, ground resists steel. Its part of the mineral triangle of rock ground steel
@@normalostrich6250 what
@@normalostrich6250 Its not a triangle if Ground wrecks both of them.. its a line, ground > steel > rock
@@normalostrich6250 ground doesn't resist steel tf?
Steel is like always one of the best multitypes, but some other combos that are cool are dark-poison, water-ground, electric-flying, and normal-ghost.
Wolfey: Ghost-Normal pokemon don't exist
Hisuian Zoraork: Let me introduce myself
9:51 “another typing that doesn’t currently exist”
6 days later Hisuian Zorua and Zoroark reveals
Honorable Mention from my side: Poison/Steel with Levitate would be beyond broken. I think the qwilfish variant from blazing emerald has that ability/typing.
I'll do you one better: a regional variant of shedinja with a normal/ghost typing
@@eduardoantohe5172 given the scarcity of dark type moves I'd say that would be pretty much immune to everything
Thousand Arrows is coming for you
@@elliotw.888 Maybe that's true in VGC but in 6v6 singles 3 mons on each team carry knock off
@@eduardoantohe5172 just make it electric with an air balloon then
Ghost/Normal for me. 3 immunities and only weak to dark. Ghost types are traditionally great specially offensive and normal types are known for having great offensive and supportive move pools.
Edit: glad to see it takes the #2 spot
The edits on the wideo are always so good. Loved this! I actually wrote a paper on this in high school.
And after finishing the video I can say we had the same conclusion about the best type combo!
Welp, looks like Legends: Arceus will be introducing that Ghost/Normal type everyone had been confused about for ages:
Hisuian Zoroark.
tyranitar goes brr pnce again if not banned
A ground fairy pokemon would be awesome, especially if it was one of those weird pokemon like Shuckle. An insane typing but a gimmicky pokemon
Or a fast special sweeper too. xD
It would go ham on the metagame. xD
@@MrHwilRRR no no no meta is already broken since primal groudon, or lets say from garchomp
@@MrHwilRRR fast special sweeper with sheer force, moonblast and earth power
Ubers, here we go!
I just finished reading the criteria and I think that the best typing already existing is steel-fairy both offensively and defensively, but let's hear what The Man has to say
Edit: oh well, zacian is broken what else can I say
Yeah before zacian existed magearna gave a lot of headaches
Honestly I just want more Eeveelutions. Also, Dragon/Bug Flygon would be interesting.
This has been one of my favorite videos of yours. Combines your insightful analysis with your humor, and also tackles a pretty difficult question very thoroughly. The editing is also top notch
Personally I think fire and grass would be an incredible combo, sad that there hasn't been a new form of ludicolo released to test that typing out!
Scovillian 🎉🎉
@@Elmapachemma the bastards finally did it 🙌🙌🙌
He's finally here and his name is Scovillan. To top it off, it has Moody.
We’ve got Scovillian!
@@ElmapachemmaGamefreak released the Grass/Water type in Gen 3, the Water/Fire type in Gen 6, and the Fire/Grass type in Gen 9. At this rate, we'll wait until Gen 12 for another Grass/Water type.
11:24 This will forever be one of my favorite Game Grumps sound clips, and the editing here is amazing
steel fairy: exists
Zacian: I said my sword was a tool of justice. Not used in anger, not used for vengeance. Now, I'm not so sure...Besides, this isn't my sword.
Mag: Shift CM Fairy Z gg
Show me a good time Jack!
Fire types tho.
If this was pre gen 6 then dark/ghost would've had to be on there it has no weaknesses
And it hit every type except steel for neutral
@@catholic_zoomer_bro and dark
Ye my most fav poke sableye. I still use it tho
@@catholic_zoomer_bro which ironically it now can, after it had a weakness added.
@@connaeris8230 true, I forgot dark
Figured this out long ago:
Drapion...
Ice Fang
Brick Break
Any Dark type (physical)
Any Poison type (stab)
Full coverage on all possible pokemon. This is actually accomplished with only Ice/Fighting/Dark(or ghost), but STAB.
Scope Lens Sniper with Cross Poison and Night Slash, Drapion is one of my 2 favorite Pokémon for this reason.
@@AlexSilver9 Same exactly!
I just wanna say, huge props to the editing, made it SUPER entertaining to watch
I am so happy you had ghost/normal as I feel like this is the best combination in my opinion, 3 immunities defensively and the ability to hit everything for neutral minimally on the switch is so powerful, give it levitate and it has 4 immunities
This is what I want to see
Everybody gangsta till Excadrill breaks the mold
Nah, give it Water Absorb and an Air Balloon.
@@GynxShinx I see what you’re saying but, why is a ghost normal going to have water absorb
@@cosmicrefractions2834 Thirsty
I'm still kind if surprised they haven't made more pokemon with type switching abilities and moves. it would certainly create a more interesting metagame, for better or worse
I wish inverse battles were played competitively
Bro we still haven’t recovered from greninja
@@shanemiller1182 and ace
kecleon is crying in the corner
@@ILiekFishes avalugg would make me cry
That was fantastic. Thanks Woofley.
I hope they go out of their way to introduce type combos we haven't seen before in Gen 9 like Ghost/Normal, Fire/Grass, etc
Normal/Ghost would be very useful on a hard-hitting Pokémon. Time to run a Normal/Ghost technician Slaking using a Smeargle with trick-or-treat and entrainment.
Yeah, this was a nice one; I was expecting the 4x weaknesses to be more of a detrimental factor than they were on the list at first
For explicitly Ground/Water wolfy explains it quite well, Grass isn't just 4x against it, it also is resistant to both.
If a pokemon is weak to say Ice, like ground/flying, but Ice isn't in turn resistant to Ground or Flying, the weakness is overall less of an issue as such pokemon have less opportunity to safely come into attacks of such a pokemon, lets say Landorus-T Earthquake while you have a Mamoswine. Mamoswine would still get 2HKO'd. You would rely on stats from say Avalugg to be able to check it almost regardless of typing to than use the offensive advantage. At this point it narrows it down to pokemon with stats able to use the coverage to their advantage rather than ones that recieve a Same Type Attack bonus. For example using Porygon-2 with Ice Beam making it possible such coverage, despite being 4x super effective, may not even One Hit KO. Contrary to say our Grass matchup to Ground/water where almost any Grass-type able to take none-stab Ice Punch/Ice Beam can suffice to come into a Water/Ground and retaliate with 4x super effective and Same Type Attack bonus boosted move.
A core aspect of pokemon is to come into attacks/moves of a certain pokemon, this is what distinguishes a check from a counter. One can keep your offensive momentum to force an opposing pokemon out while the other can gain offensive momentum and force the opposing pokemon out which is the bread and butter of pokemons competitive scenes and even nuzzlocking.
@@rhydonphilip Great explanation. Thanks.
Funnily enough I feel like the two types that don't play well with steel are two common pairings with it: Ice and Rock. In both cases they have multiple overlapping weaknesses with steel that unfortunately end up hurting the two already hyper offensive typings a lot despite steel usually greatly boosting the defensive capabilities of a type it pairs with
Who else randomly thinks about the best type combos and how certain pokemon match up to each other
literally me in school everyday
I do but it’s not randomly
I’m pretty sure nidoking can have the best possible type coverage. Not typing but has the best 4 moves possible. I don’t think 4 moves can hit every type super effective but it’s the closest
I love thinking about what unused type combos have the most potential. Fairy/Ground is an amazing one for instance (like Wolfey said). Fighting/Ground, Fire/Grass, and Fire/Fairy all are up there too.
so glad to see ghost/normal mentioned - I've been waiting for this typing to show up for a long time
congratulations you are done waiting 👏
"I won't be taking metagame into account"
"Fighting, Fire, Water, Dark, and Dragon, all of which are *popular choices*"
"Normal Ghost doesn't exist atm"
UNRIL HISUIAN ZORUA SHOWED UP
Poison/Dark is one of my favorite typings. I swept a mono fairy team with Alolan Muk and it was so fun.
Wolfey - Normal and Ghost doesn't exist yet but would be a great type.
Game Freak just days later - hold my beer
New Zorua and Zoroark look amazing!
Yeah Normal/Ghost would be really OP like you’re basically stuck taking that Pokémon out with neutral hits which is a lot harder unless you have a strong Dark type with STAB and decent attacks
Hisuian zoroark is normal & ghost type so when legends arceus releases hisuian zoroark will hit hard
you know what, tyranitar still relevant to counter normal ghost somehow
@@richard35791 ?
Wolfey calm and analytical dialogue overimposed a video with hype meme style that looks like it was edited by someone with the energy of a kid after drinking Red Bull is so jarring ^^
I know we’re not including abilities, but Steel/Fairy with Levitate seems like it’d be pretty busted
Steel/poison with levitate would be absolutely busted
I mean, slap a type-negating ability to any dual type Pokemon normally weak only to that one single type, and you get yourself a monster that demands Mold Breaker to deal with. E.g., Water/Ground with Sap Sipper, Bug/Steel with Flash Fire, can't think of anything else right now...
yeah finally my boi mamoswine gets some time to shiny with his unique ground ice typing. even if its just an honorable mention its still better than how most people ignore everything ice.
Still waiting for the day in which they make ice resist water. Goddamnit that would be so good for the meta game!
@@SenpaiTorpidDOW Ice has so many problems I don't understand. A good amount of the weaknesses are such a stretch does it really need ALL of them?
Fighting down to 1x would be enough of a "buff" not to break it I feel. Yeah, more resistances would be great (even if it is to "whatever" types like Bug or Grass), but I think doing something about the 4 weaknesses where ALL of which are decently popular (thanks fairy) is a bit more of a pressing matter.
Honestly, either of Fighting or Rock could go, but I doubt Nintendo would buff them enough to remove a weakness to entries and such.
If this video shows me anything, it's how powerful the Fairy type is and how I feel like it's getting more likely Pokemon will add another type into the game to nerf Fairies like how Fairies nerfed Dragons.
they could just nerf fairy like they nerfed steel, maybe making it weak to fire & be resisted by ice , or making it not resist dark & bug
@@Marcusjnmc I’ve never understood why it resists bug
Just make Bug-type super effective against Fairy. And Poison-type super effective against Water. That's how you buff two bad types offensive types
@@Marcusjnmc yes please all of these
except removing the dark resistance, that's cool
@@grunkleg.2934 Big brain over here I've been saying that forever. Though I would also add having Bug resist Ghost while we're at it.
Fighting/electric is crazy. Omuran Machamp is a beast in Pokemon Empyrean, especially with sheer force, bulk up and poison jab.
Isn't the new Zapdos this typing now too?
@@Alaspooryorick98 nah, that's Fighting/Flying (which happens to be a great offensive typing)
@@emmamorris6577 damn I didn't realize, I assumed they got rid of flying on all 3 of them for their duo types.
Ghost/Normal doesn’t exist!
Laughs in Hisuian Zoroark
Congratulations to Hisuian Zoroark making this video outdated already.
Not even a week
They announced a ghost/normal type, hisusian zorua and zoroark, just today. LETS GO.
Before watching- I’ve always thought ground/ flying and electric/ flying were fantastic typings.
I'm still hoping one day we do get an awesome normal ghost type. It's one of my most wanted types, and I'm glad it made it to the list :3
Did you do all those combos by hand? That's dedication.
I made an algorithm to calculate this and the results were:
Offensively: fighting/ice and ice/ground
These actually have no offensive weakenesses
Defensively: metal/fairy
Globally: metal/fairy and ground/fairy
I didn't give specific types extra points, but I did add that function, which actually makes some crazy stuff happen. If you give all types 1 point and 10 to fairy, for example, the result comes to ground/poison(offensively) 😅
wolfey spoke hisuian Zorua into existence and im so happy
This was a lot of fun to theorize and the editing made it super fun to watch too. I just for funsies its always a laugh to see which would be the worst match ups too
Wolfey: *Points out how we don't have a Normal/Ghost type in the games yet*
*1 Week Later*
Hisuian Zorua/Zoroark: Hello There
My 5 picks for good type combinations. I'm looking solely at the defensive prowess because you'll most likely run coverage moves. *1. Rock/Grass* 4 weaknesses, 6 but weakness are neutralized by the other type, 2 resistances. *2. Water/Dragon* 2 weaknesses (only 1 before Gen VI,) 3 neutralized weaknesses, 3 resistances. *3. Water/Grass* 3 weaknesses, 4 neutralized weaknesses, 3 resistances. *4 Fairy/Steel* (mentioned in video) *5 (one of my favourite combinations,) Dragon/Steel* (mentioned in video.)
You were early by one week. Ghost/Normal Hisuian Zorua line confirmed today
Welp, you asked for it Wolfey, and now we’re getting a ghost/normal regional variant of Zoroark
A while ago, in my spare time I was considering what the best possible typing could be, I then thought of normal and ghost as well, personally, I think that's better than steel and fairy since neither of fairy or steel can hit fire too well, fire is also known for being a good typing among players. Since Hisui Zoroark is coming out, I believe that it is going to be one of the best pokemon out there in the metagame, quite possibly being banned from OU.
if ur talking about bans in smogon thats also gonna be largely dependent on what moves and abilities its gonna get in gen 9. i dont think typing alone will warrant a ban.
@@spookie1024 since it's the very first of its typing I doubt that they'll give us horrible stats and moves, ghosts tend to have pretty good special attacks and normal types usually have pretty good physical defense
@@Disco1211 im pretty sure it will have similar stats to the regular zoroark, if not a little different. its most likely gonna be another fast special/physical/mixed sweeper or revenge killer with bad defensive stats. it actually might be easier to revenge kill now because dark type moves are also pretty common, especially sucker punch. another reason why i dont think its a ban straight up is because we dont know its ability yet for sure, right now its listed as illusion, which is honestly pretty gimmicky and kinda meh, but we dont know if theyll change it in gen 9.
all in all i dont think its really ban worthy from the surface as of now. i doubt it would have the flexibility of previously banned mons like gren or cinderace, or the raw power of dracovish. it will probably be excellent however if the meta leans towards favoring ghost types in ou, but if not then i really dont think he looks too powerful now.
@@spookie1024 Tbh it was just an educated guess, or prediction from my knowledge, we will have to see however.
The quality of the edits have improved vastly, I love it!
Wolf: Ghost/normal doesn't exist
Hisuian Zoark/Zerora: Allow me to sing you the song of my people.
#2 Ghost/Normal?! Hisuian Zoroark HYPE?!?!
Also my prediction for #1 is Steel/Fairy but if it's not that I think it'll be something weird with the Fire-type.
Edit: Woooo I got it right! This wideos are fun. Make more like this thank you.
This was neat! Made me think about a Fairy/Fighting type mon. It would be a hard counter to rock and dark types, and have coverage against steel types. But defensively it would get wrecked by poison. Still a unique type combo.
What if its a guts pokemon? :)
@@paradoxash3347 I honestly don't know to much about competive play. Just spit balling ideas.
@@morokee3641 i dont either i just watch ppl suffer in hardcore nuzlockes , its fun .so got to know a little bit more about pokemon , im doing a renegade platinum run rn . I've been making great progress .cheers mate , btw guts increases attack if suffering (paralyze , burn and poison) by 1.5 or 2 btw
Coming back after hisuian zorua and zoroark are revealed to dwell on the upcoming bustedness. bless.
Used aolan muk in my first moon playthough and felt that he was a monster
Used one in Ultra Sun, he damn near handled Ultra Necrozma by himself
9:19 Here from the future. Hisuian Zorua & Zoroark was announced & its a normal-ghost type!
Normal Types: Mama I'm scared
Normal Types when they are also ghost: I AM BECOME DEATH.
Wth? I was just thinking of this video and we now have a Normal/Ghost type
I'm just gona say when I played platinum Cynthia's spiritomb caused me alot of trouble because of the no weaknesses (no fairy yet).
back then spirittomb was nasty and ina sense with a few moves unbeatablke in doubles (shedingja and o a m,on that mvoes abilities around) glad we got no no weaknes mons anymore
@@Helleuw123 Laughs in Eelektross
@@hatafire there few ways to het him to ground:) ability switches or gravity
For me Spiritomb is the reason Cynthia is easy beat.
bruh, lucario and empoleon goes brr against spiritomb, use your head a bit (typical stupid sweeper comment, underestimating defensive typing)
Who's here after the new zoroark hisui form?
I've seen someone use a Normal/Ghost pokemon before, in a way. They had a Snorlax in a double battle, with the second pokemon being Gourgeist. Gourgeist used Trick-Or-Treat on Snorlax, turning it into a Ghost, and Snorlax then would use Curse and Rest to cut the opponents down quickly and then recover from using Curse. The team sadly lost (mostly because they were fighting a bunch of Legendary pokemon), but it was amazing to see how well the strategy worked.
It honestly amazes me that they havnt manages to cover every type combo yet, with how many pokemon and variants
Thumbs up if you came here after the anouncement of normal-ghost zorua and zoroark
Hisuian Zoroark is ghost normal be prepared
There needs to be a Ground/Fairy Natural Disaster Mother Nature Pokémon
This is so cool because it makes so much sense! (Ground flying specifically)
I actually had to look into this when he mentioned Steel/Fairy and how Ground is perfect coverage for their STAB moves. Between Zacian-C, Magearna, Mawile, and Klefki only Mawile and Zacian-C can learn ANY ground type moves. Zacian-C can learn Dig, and Mawile has Mud Slap as a "transfer only" move. It looks like they knew how broken that could be.