The History of Nuzlockes

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  • @jaidenanimations
    @jaidenanimations Рік тому +10982

    It’s an honor to be considered part of history in a game and community I love so much :’)
    Incredible video Wolfey!!!!

  • @shadypenguinn
    @shadypenguinn Рік тому +3200

    Really humbled to be included here. Shadylocke holds a special place in my heart, even more so now. ❤
    I watched the whole video twice now, another banger, Wolfe!

    • @officialblue967
      @officialblue967 Рік тому +18

      love your content shady,, i was very excited to see you featured here

    • @brandon14715
      @brandon14715 Рік тому +16

      Crazy, I remember watching that original shadylocke all those years ago. Amazing to see how far you've come

    • @mikhailsevillano7074
      @mikhailsevillano7074 Рік тому +30

      Your soul link with the king who must not be named was the reason why I fell inlove with pokemon all over again.

    • @bernieswim
      @bernieswim Рік тому +3

      Shady da GOAT

    • @Glacenair
      @Glacenair Рік тому +3

      Well deserved Mr. Penguinn

  • @Haydunn
    @Haydunn Рік тому +3156

    Appreciate the shout out my friend 🙏 honored to part of history. This video was amazing, the editing and work put into this is next level

    • @imaged-
      @imaged- Рік тому +17

      You deserve it I papa

    • @Cptstank
      @Cptstank Рік тому +30

      You deserve the shoutout. Remember watching you back then in high school and it seemed so rare to find Pokémon series

    • @pearcehudson1220
      @pearcehudson1220 Рік тому +9

      A true OG

    • @dylanramirez7274
      @dylanramirez7274 Рік тому +18

      YOURE THE FUCKING GOAT HAYDUNN

    • @Yvernyx
      @Yvernyx Рік тому +5

      You deserve it man, you're an OG

  •  Рік тому +5014

    I still remember coming home from school and checking every day if there was a new chapter of the Nuzlocke comic.
    Turns out I was onto something lol
    Also massive shoutout to ExcoessivelyAve who was the only other person doing Nuzlockes regularly on Twitch when I started. A huge part of my initial small community were people that had come over from collaborating with him and he's still a fantastic friend today.
    This video was a great walk down memory lane :)

    • @stefvalk7452
      @stefvalk7452 Рік тому +51

      Not surprised to see the probably best nuzlocker in the world here

    • @berugitv3562
      @berugitv3562 Рік тому +5

      omg pokemon challenges hi !!!😸☝️

    • @jakebullock3357
      @jakebullock3357 Рік тому

      Bat chest, so based

    • @owenaspinall2046
      @owenaspinall2046 Рік тому +13

      UA-cam comment, based

    • @early2000skid
      @early2000skid Рік тому +7

      I still check up on it from time to time... but it's been like 5 years now I think. It's a shame too, I remember when the author had Pokemon Hardmode, Speedrun and Space Cat running at the same time. Feels like ages ago now. Still tho, maybe after a long hiatus they'll return someday. Afterall, this is all happening for a reason.

  • @VetNovice
    @VetNovice Рік тому +3555

    Wolfey has become the unofficial Professor Oak of the game in real life. Extremely knowledgeable, fills a compendium of Poke-info, insanely skilled at the game. Beyond champion.

    • @fios4528
      @fios4528 Рік тому +42

      I'd throw JWittz in the running as well

    • @josiahhook1535
      @josiahhook1535 Рік тому +53

      It’s cuz he has the WORLD CHAMP DIFFERENCE

    • @TheShardsFamily
      @TheShardsFamily Рік тому +60

      He's gonna start asking everyone if they are a boy or a girl

    • @zame-osomething5096
      @zame-osomething5096 Рік тому +40

      @@TheShardsFamily gonna ask people what his grandson’s name is

    • @saadinhalf
      @saadinhalf Рік тому +33

      All I’m saying is JWittz and Gnoggin might be in there…
      Also Wolfey needs to hire a 10 year old to do his work for him before becoming officially a professor

  • @GameboyLuke
    @GameboyLuke Рік тому +1727

    seeing all of these old thumbnails, especially of my own nuzlockes really took me back, it’s so cool to be a part of the nuzlocke history alongside so many of my friends and peers.
    sick video wolfe, keep it up 🙏

  • @Drxxyt
    @Drxxyt Рік тому +3069

    This was incredible. So glad to see how far nuzlocking has come. It truly is something special. Thanks for making this project possible

    • @nostylenograce
      @nostylenograce Рік тому +32

      omg my goat

    • @Cardb33
      @Cardb33 Рік тому +37

      The Muhammad Ali of Nuzlockes graces us with his presence.

    • @WolfeyVGC
      @WolfeyVGC  Рік тому +209

      Thanks for all your help!

    • @jpshy1130
      @jpshy1130 Рік тому +7

      @@Cardb33 if he’s Muhammad Ali who is jan

    • @muzz4610
      @muzz4610 Рік тому +23

      @@jpshy1130 Logan Paul

  • @Patterrz
    @Patterrz Рік тому +632

    I can't believe I just got exposed like that LMFAO 10:00 i'll never live this down

  • @Glace_cakes
    @Glace_cakes Рік тому +779

    Major props to Jan for ditching college to be a Pokémon master

    • @jhammer01
      @jhammer01 Рік тому +10

      Fr

    • @JWillicus
      @JWillicus Рік тому +37

      Just like in the games

    • @Druidddd
      @Druidddd Рік тому +7

      Did he? I thought he's a graduating traffic engineering student tho (?)

    • @MisterHeroman
      @MisterHeroman Рік тому +4

      Not really a master with those bad takes lmao

  • @ExcessivelyAve
    @ExcessivelyAve Рік тому +313

    The Nuzlocke community has come so far since the early days of live Pokemon content, i'm honored that I could be a small part of history.
    People like Jan, Haydunn, Shady, Drew, and many others continue to inspire me. Can't wait to see where Nuzlockes go next!

  • @bowmain1577
    @bowmain1577 Рік тому +365

    I do feel amiss not bringing up Mariland in the history of the nuzloke he is not making much content today, but he made some of the most fun nuzlokes I've ever watched. It was what got me and many others into nuzloking.
    He was the inventor of the wedlocke which is a staple nuzloke variant today and was very popular during the 2010's.
    Anyway, I just want to bring him up as apart of the history, since, at least for me, he was very important.

    • @danishlucario
      @danishlucario Рік тому +67

      Don't forget that he also used the "hardcore nuzlocke" rule format, before it was even called the "hardcore nuzlocke" for his pokemon platinum nuzlocke.

    • @HeracrossTheGreek
      @HeracrossTheGreek Рік тому +62

      This. Marriland was so big and influential back in the day, it's a shame he wasn't done justice in this nevertheless amazing video. You just need to look at how much fanart he received of the pokemon he used in each run to understand his magnitude.

    • @justanotherweirdo11
      @justanotherweirdo11 Рік тому +1

      Definitely

    • @darkessraven
      @darkessraven Рік тому +31

      Plus Marriland was the “first” Pokemon content creator having a full walkthrough of gen 4 back in 2006. He was making videos for his website to provide free guides through the games. Later on, he dive into content creating until around a year before the pandemic which he decided to go back to his roots of focusing on his website.
      He was burned out of making videos as many wanted Nuzlockes which he doesn’t enjoy making anymore. He’s also a traditionalist refusing to do any game breaking mechanics on games so any rom hacks or cheats are a no go to him. He plays with official copies of the games.

    • @slyrich
      @slyrich Рік тому +13

      Seriously as good as this video is Marriland was an instrumental part of why nuzlockes got so big at the end of the day so I just wish I got the recognition he deserves fr

  • @videogamefan9992
    @videogamefan9992 Рік тому +180

    slight correction: first hardcore nuzlocke was actually done by marriland back in 2013 in his platinum nuzlocke with the exact same rules as those used in modern hardcore nuzlockes. It definitely wasn't called that at the time though

    • @armoredanteater609
      @armoredanteater609 17 днів тому

      I think the implication was that pchal really helped popularize the idea of Hardcore nuzlocke to mainstream pokemon gamers, mostly thanks to the attention Jaiden brought his way

  • @jpshy1130
    @jpshy1130 Рік тому +1063

    I love how even this video has jaiden in the thumbnail because any nuzlocke content has to have it

    • @atlat412
      @atlat412 Рік тому +38

      Well, I mean yeah. Have you seen the amount of views those nuzlockes get? Add on the fact that her channel seems to have a consistent viewer base and this just seems like a smart choice.
      Honestly, I’d argue that using her in the thumbnail makes sense from a video perspective as well. Being as widely viewed as they are with a story-focused style to them I feel emphasizes the point.
      The only thing that would make sense would be to replace her with some Nuzleaf theme.

    • @HomeCookinMTG
      @HomeCookinMTG Рік тому +13

      @@atlat412 From a theming perspective maybe, it was Jaiden's first nuzlocke, but nuzlocke content has been around before that vid came out. I doubt it's the first one, but the first time I saw nuzlocke content on youtube was from a dude named Blacklightattack wayyy back in 2011 on a channel called TGN.

    • @emretroll
      @emretroll Рік тому +3

      Pokémon Challenges and many others entered the chat

    • @jpshy1130
      @jpshy1130 Рік тому +6

      @@atlat412 it was kinda a joke because obv she should be in the video that video basically pioneered the nuzlocke community we know today

    • @atlat412
      @atlat412 Рік тому +2

      @@jpshy1130 Oh no, I knew it was a joke from you. I just felt overanalyzing it for no reason.

  • @Mwolf55
    @Mwolf55 Рік тому +62

    As somebody who read the original Pokemon hard mode on release, it's amazing to see how far it's come.

  • @VJ-Vice
    @VJ-Vice Рік тому +106

    It should be noted how important Marilland was in that first wave of Nuzlocke playthroughs on UA-cam

    • @prometheustv6558
      @prometheustv6558 9 місяців тому +2

      His Platinum Nuzlocke was probably the first well documented hardcore Nuzlocke.

    • @heinzdoofenshmirtz8643
      @heinzdoofenshmirtz8643 7 місяців тому

      ​@@prometheustv6558True. Set Mode? Check. Level limit? Check. No items from the Bag in battle? Check. All of which can be found in Hardcore Nuzlocke today.

    • @prometheustv6558
      @prometheustv6558 7 місяців тому

      @@heinzdoofenshmirtz8643 that’s probably where Jan got it from

  • @Cantrona
    @Cantrona Рік тому +117

    Amazing video! Only thing that makes me a bit sad is the lack of mention of Mariland because he was the only person I remember doing nuzlock type content for a chunk of time there. He may not have been the best or the biggest, but he was really consistent for a huge chunk of time when there weren't as many others

    • @sparkywoofwoofUK
      @sparkywoofwoofUK Рік тому +10

      Mariland basically invented Wedlockes, didn't he?

    • @heinzdoofenshmirtz8643
      @heinzdoofenshmirtz8643 7 місяців тому +5

      ​@@sparkywoofwoofUKHe actually did. And arguably, the first Hardcore Nuzlocke as well. His Platinum Nuzlocke had a level cap, no items from the Bag could be used in battle except for Poké Balls, and he played on Set Mode.

  • @jacobanderson5845
    @jacobanderson5845 Рік тому +239

    Wolfey’s script writing and comedy are so good. “The plan was simple” at 36:30 is such a sly little reference and gave me a good chuckle, and that’s just one of many such moments

    • @kazekamiha
      @kazekamiha Рік тому +1

      When you skip a step...

    • @j_0anna
      @j_0anna Рік тому

      i only just realised this! incredible reference

    • @marmato9332
      @marmato9332 Рік тому +1

      To what

    • @jacobanderson5845
      @jacobanderson5845 Рік тому +5

      @@marmato9332 He’s talking about Ludwig’s run, and Ludwig’s intro and catchphrase for a while was “Boys! The plan is simple!”

  • @sirenarizzo
    @sirenarizzo Рік тому +28

    TyranitarTube is the goat, his extreme playthroughs are what introduced me to nuzlockes

  • @PokeRedstone
    @PokeRedstone Рік тому +219

    Love the whole bit about Shady; he's one of the all time greats. He (and someone who must not be named) really established what Nuzlockes were for a while. They also put the soul link on the map. I think an interesting tidbit a lot of people don't know is that the Soul Link was conceived as a two player version of Marriland's Wedlocke.

    • @SoGVerruckt
      @SoGVerruckt Рік тому +20

      Yeah I'm disappointed they didn't mention this, it's a dark time for the community that almost killed the whole genre.

    • @stonalisa3729
      @stonalisa3729 Рік тому

      @@SoGVerruckt explain?

    • @SoGVerruckt
      @SoGVerruckt Рік тому +35

      @@stonalisa3729 I don't want to give the person notoriety, but they got in trouble for alleged grooming. They were the largest poketuber at the time. That incident caused the downfall of almost every Poke/nuz channel popular at the time because they all had some drama in this.

    • @theVortex77
      @theVortex77 Рік тому +1

      Im sad but not suprised that he didnt talk about the Core 4

    • @yanreal3600
      @yanreal3600 Рік тому +5

      Yes! I got to know nuzlocks thanks to them, unfortunately all the drama almost ended everything. But the first soul links were so fun!

  • @Fuuukano
    @Fuuukano Рік тому +56

    This video is such a nostalgia blast. It got me so emotional.
    Great job, and amazing editing as always !

    • @Ori_ow
      @Ori_ow Рік тому

      Ça fait plaisir de voir des gens de la comu fr dans les comentaires!

  • @CountofBleck
    @CountofBleck Рік тому +393

    Correction: The first Nuzlocke comic, the Ruby Hard Mode, actually ended with a wipe to Steven. This lead directly into the more story driven Fire Red Nuzlocke, where things REALLY ramped up.

    • @JWillicus
      @JWillicus Рік тому +15

      And the dead White nuzlocke

    • @cellofperfection
      @cellofperfection Рік тому +1

      IKR?

    • @TheOneAndOnlyP6
      @TheOneAndOnlyP6 Рік тому +27

      I really don't like how he just glimpsed over the comic

    • @mcnalga
      @mcnalga Рік тому +4

      @@TheOneAndOnlyP6didn’t he say because the comic is problematic now lol

    • @TheOneAndOnlyP6
      @TheOneAndOnlyP6 Рік тому +24

      @@mcnalga I know. Haven't reread the comic for like 10 years but I don't remember any problematic stuff besides some edgy internet humor from the time. Also calling it a bad drawn comic specially after the start of fire red is so disingenuous in my opinion.

  • @planetyeo
    @planetyeo Рік тому +41

    The Nuzlocke forums were an integral part of my childhood. Those edited screenshot runs were peak Pokémon storytelling. Though the FlygonHGs and PokemonChallenges of our day are the best in the sense of gaming challenges, there's just something so nostalgic about those screenshot runs. Where everything happened for a reason.

    • @flanplaysvideogames
      @flanplaysvideogames Рік тому

      Best fun I ever had on the internet was getting to admin the nuzlocke forums in its very early years.

    • @pokepaar3696
      @pokepaar3696 Рік тому +1

      Pokemon challenges that are popular now dont really have the emotional connection with their teams anymore

  • @jaxpool155
    @jaxpool155 Рік тому +120

    This was an incredible retrospective! The only thing I felt wasn't represented well enough was the impact of Nuzlocke comics, specifically those done by Kylee-nim. Myths of Unova got me hooked on the concept of a Nuzlocke, and her rich world-building and incredible art really raised the bar for what a narrative Nuzlocke comic could be. And she was working on it while in Med School! She even created one of the more well-known Fakemon in that comic, Vahirom, a possible idea for what the Tao Trio may have looked like as one Pokemon. Her hard work and dedication to her Nuzlocke and her comic shouldn't be forgotten or overlooked. She's even to this day publishing pages of a sequel comic based on a run she did in B2W2!

    • @globyglob
      @globyglob Рік тому +11

      Dude her comic was what got me into nuzlocking after reading ruby hard mode, sad to see that the most popular early forum content was mostly skipped over for more recent but wolfe definitely had more to talk about with things he was involved in. Just wish that the early community got its flowers.

    • @RPGFanboy14
      @RPGFanboy14 Рік тому +2

      Oh man I remember this comic! The art and story were so good! I fell off reading nuzlocke comics before it concluded so I'll have to go back and read it at some point.

    • @trainzelda1428
      @trainzelda1428 Рік тому +7

      This. I know nuzlockes have been a thing you stream for a decade or so but to me the true "medium" for a nuzlocke is as a webcomic. I feel like they lose something without an original main character and added subplots which was standard practice back then

    • @zephyrias
      @zephyrias Рік тому

      exactly! webcomics! there's a handful I really enjoyed I made a few back in the day. Myth's of Unova, I gotta go back and read BW comics are my fave.
      Pettyartist (Gen 1 and Gen 2), Yindragon (Kick @SS Firered mode), Landwalker's Yellow Nuzlocke, a few i used to read.
      There's one for a Sinnoh nuzlocke that makes me laugh all the time, the true goat for DelelelWoop, a cherim destorying things with solar beam, and a ref to pokemon quartz with that ugly baro mon. (looked it up its called Babos). that one made me laugh every page, if only I can find it. ;__;

  • @noway7774
    @noway7774 Рік тому +369

    It sucks to see how little was actually represented for the pre-Jaiden era of nuzlocking. No Marriland, MunchingOrange, Hardyt3kyoyo. A lot of the early nuzlocking examples are mainly limited to Poketubers who are still relevant today while some of the other big names back then are left to be forgotten. Love all the detail for post-Jaiden era though. I assume xProuty being the first to beat EK deathless happened too late to appear.

    • @garreteddleman7157
      @garreteddleman7157 Рік тому +33

      Marriland's x and y wedlocke was one of my favorites!!!

    • @frostyclouded
      @frostyclouded Рік тому +11

      god hardyt3kyoyo... i haven't heard that name in years. i used to love his videos too, i'm glad to see him mentioned here :')

    • @advenco344
      @advenco344 Рік тому +7

      It’s also worth mentioning BlackLightAttack although he wasn’t exclusively a Pokétuber.

    • @mystereoheart2579
      @mystereoheart2579 Рік тому +50

      yeah im kind of amazed how quickly the 2010s deviantart comic era got passed over! can't blame wolfey because he probably wasnt really aware of those communities but there were a lot of classic nuzlocke comics that were instrumental in spreading interest of the format before youtube really picked up the topic.

    • @YusufC51
      @YusufC51 Рік тому +31

      Tyranitartube as well, I'm surprised that his extreme randomizers were never mentioned despite that Alpha Sapphire Extreme easily could have fit into the rom-hacks or kaizo section.

  • @calebcardinal3867
    @calebcardinal3867 Рік тому +98

    im a little disappointed no mention of marriland?? he made the wedlockes and his nuzlockes were unique, kinda like jaidens video but it wasn't animated it was done while playing, he added a memorial montage after each death and it was nuzlocking done with respect and friendships with his pokemon. definetly up there with patterrz and jaiden

    • @heinzdoofenshmirtz8643
      @heinzdoofenshmirtz8643 7 місяців тому

      Plus, he did a Hardcore Nuzlocke before Hardcore Nuzlocke was even a thing. His Platinum Nuzlocke had a level limit, no items from the bag in battle apart from Poké Balls, and Set Mode. All of which are rules in a Hardcore Nuzlocke.

  • @Moxi
    @Moxi Рік тому +54

    This made me so proud to be a part of the community. This video was INCREDIBLE, and I learned so much new lore about something that's become so special to me.

  • @DinosaurioGaar
    @DinosaurioGaar Рік тому +41

    nuzlocke at first: makes the pokemon die to make the bond with them more appreciated
    nuzlocke nowadays: *proceeds to make an explosion team because is the best strategy*

    • @KeinNiemand
      @KeinNiemand 11 місяців тому +1

      This is mostly becouse lvl caps

  • @SparkBlazeWarriors
    @SparkBlazeWarriors Рік тому +11

    It’s wild how detailed this was and there’s still so much that could be covered.
    I was around the deviantart nuzlocking comic community in the early 2010s and that was a whole thing, and what originally got me inspired to Nuzlocke.
    Marriland’s Wedlockes also probably could have had their own section in Nuzlocking history, that felt like one of the big variants to first get popularized and actually played?
    And while covered in the rom hacks section to an extent, it’s fascinating what optimizations have been made for each game. Like even simple ones like how powerful Guts Raticate/Swellow can be or how Linoone can be made into a consistent E4 sweeper in Emerald. We all probably started by playing mostly normally and not planning too far ahead and now the community’s play has been really pushed to a high level as we all got better and communities continued to grow.

  • @Ronald_Ruck
    @Ronald_Ruck Рік тому +9

    I was there when Nuzlocke draw his first comic and I loved the message board he builded up. Found some cool people from all around the world there to talk with. I really miss that time.

  • @frankiehillman
    @frankiehillman Рік тому +74

    This video is some serious Marriland erasure - they not only made the Wedlocke but created some of the first, most popular Nuzlocke series on UA-cam! Great video though as always.

    • @prometheustv6558
      @prometheustv6558 9 місяців тому +2

      Also his Platinum Nuzlocke was probably the first hardcore nuzlocke

  • @winterofsilver
    @winterofsilver Рік тому +20

    I got into nuzlockes by watching Marilland play through Emerald, Platinum, and Heart Gold as a kid!! Awesome history video man - its extremely nostalgic looking back at all of these historical events :)

    • @heinzdoofenshmirtz8643
      @heinzdoofenshmirtz8643 7 місяців тому +1

      His run of Platinum was Hardcore Nuzlocke before that was even a thing. Level limit? Check. No items from the Bag in battle except Poké Balls? Check. Set Mode? Check.

  • @BrandonPlaysStuff
    @BrandonPlaysStuff Рік тому

    I love this video, because it is about a community that I have been a part of for the longest time. I'm so happy to see a deep-dive history lesson of this beautiful community.
    It not only allowed me to see how Pchal had grown to become one of the pioneers of Nuzlocking, not only allowed me to see some pf the forst Nuzlocking videos from creators that I had never seen (and might watch later for my own free time), but I think most importantly, this video truly opened my eyes to how important the smaller pro Nuzlockers were (with some even helping bigger streamers).
    I appreciate the many Nuzlockers that had come to create this fantastic video :)

  • @GameMaster-sh7tr
    @GameMaster-sh7tr Рік тому +35

    29:21 Made me laugh so hard, the random sans reference and Wolfe wheezing like a tire pump is such an hilarious combination

  • @Sephiron
    @Sephiron Рік тому +1

    What an amazing video!
    Huge props for the research, the skript and the editing, this is just on another level.
    For the video - that's exactly what I love about Pokemon. It brings people together. Such a treat, being able to witness this YT/Nuzlocke journey.

  • @Joel97_
    @Joel97_ Рік тому +20

    There used to be some flowcharts back in the day when nuzlocke webcomics were popular that explained a lot of the rules before they became popular (Like No pkmn centers, no healing, no shopping and some others) and I remember them seeing them a lot myself.
    When Hardcore Nuzlockes became a thing, it always reminds me that flowchart was there and i found it kinda funny that it existed even so early on.
    This was such a cool video and so well edited too, good job!

  • @Yamartim
    @Yamartim Рік тому +5

    I remember starting to watch nuzlockes way back in 2013-2014 and it's so cool to see how they stuck around and grew so much until now! It was so much cool internet content that came and went so fast that it's easy to lose track of the big picture, thank you so much Wolfe for doing this documentation, all this cool history deserves to be remembered

  • @rasslebaby
    @rasslebaby Рік тому +33

    Love the Haydunn shoutout. This channel aside, he’s always had my favorite Pokémon content on this site, and it’s so great to see him still making content to this day.

  • @MalevolentMinun
    @MalevolentMinun Рік тому +6

    Duuude, I remember Haydunn! His content was great, love to see he's still doing stuff.
    And Jaiden's Ruby Nuzlocke is so iconic. Crazy to think so many people didn't know how Nuzlocke was derived from the Ruby Hard Mode comic, this was such a fantastic video Wolfey, definitely a must watch for anyone even remotely interested in the Nuzlocke side of Pokemon.

  • @JungusBungus
    @JungusBungus Рік тому +6

    Nuzlockes are the very essence of nostalgia for me. Back in 2012 I loved Nate and Dookie’s Pokémon Soul Silver nuzlocke. My best friend and I did all sorts of competitive “1 v 1 nuzlockes” inspired by them, where we’d battle after every gym and whoever wins more battles wins the nuzlocke competition (or, if you lose the run the other guy wins). We did this for every Pokémon game we owned, and it’s just such a fun time to look back on

  • @johnjolly6913
    @johnjolly6913 Рік тому +9

    I remember watching Jan at work during the finale. It was one of those moments you’ll just remember forever.

  • @backpackerraden6268
    @backpackerraden6268 Рік тому +37

    Great video as they have been recently. Really well researched and detailed.
    I would dispute the hardcore nuzlockes origins with Pokemon Challenges. Marriland was using those rules for his 2013 Platinum Nuzlocke run. But Jan was the first to popularize these rules.

    • @blazechaos212
      @blazechaos212 Рік тому

      Interesting. Guess they were no longer notorious since it wasn't brought up

    • @backpackerraden6268
      @backpackerraden6268 Рік тому +4

      @@blazechaos212 Well tbh I don't think Marilland's nuzlocke is nearly as well remembered as his creation of the Wedlocke. And it was never called the hardcore nuzlocke

    • @mattm6147
      @mattm6147 Рік тому +3

      the marriland erasure!

  • @RobTibbetts92
    @RobTibbetts92 Рік тому +7

    I’ve been so invested in Nuzlockes from a long long time ago, I remember watching Haydunn doing his first Nuzlocke and being gripped by it. It’s a shame the story telling has been lost over time but it makes sense. What a great video 👍🏻

  • @brightb5339
    @brightb5339 Рік тому +33

    For people who can see this, I would personally recommend reading the original nuzlocke comic alongside the fire red comic made after it. As long as you go into it knowing there will be dated humor and are okay with that, it's a fun read to see where nuzlockes all started!

    • @jameswulf
      @jameswulf 10 місяців тому +5

      Yeah, Wolfey was out of line for saying what he did.

  • @tanng93
    @tanng93 Місяць тому

    As a 31 year old who absolutely loves pokemon, I wish I would have found out about all this much sooner. Wish I could have been along for the ride, but it's great to catch up on this legendary quest for Pokemon mastery. I played regular Pokemon for my entire childhood, but stopped after Gen 4 until my mid 20s with regular ROMs and jumped back into mainline with Gen 9. I'm now givint Nuzlockes a go and catching up on missed time and memories. Thank yall for making Pokemon even more awesome than I already thought it was.

  • @therranolleo468
    @therranolleo468 Рік тому +7

    I just love how the original era of Nuzlockes emphasizes so much on bonding with unfamiliar pokemons and their deaths becoming so emotionally draining for the players to the GODLIKE-level of gameplay of hardcore nuzlockes where every pokemon is just a tool for the player to clear the challenge. you can catch a pokemon, name it something, feed it steroids, and have it explode on the gym leader's ace just so you can clear it easier, or sack a pokemon that you've spent so much time with away in order to save another pokemon that's going to be more useful in the next gym.

  • @ryanogrady2616
    @ryanogrady2616 Рік тому +11

    I was in Jan's chat for both of his E4 runs, 77 and 151. Absolutely brutal loss at 77, and damn both the Ludicolos, but the elation in 151 was intense and relief was palpable. Truly something that I won't forget in a long time.

  • @ROYAL5KATER
    @ROYAL5KATER Рік тому +25

    "Incredibly Haydunn is still making great Pokémon content today" you damn right he is wolf, you damn right.

    • @dylanramirez7274
      @dylanramirez7274 Рік тому

      Dude he’s the GOAT, I name all of my Pokémon after his. My favorite still is Joint the Raticate with a flame orb 😂

  • @Mariokemon
    @Mariokemon 9 місяців тому +9

    Nuzlockes used to be personal. You would catch your randomly found teammates, train train them on the wild and trainer pokemon, as you would in any other playthrough, and strategize with what you got to beat the gym leaders.
    In the Marilland days, we grew attached to Fries the Linoone, Peach the Primeape, Ninjarisu the Pachirisu, etc. He treated it like a playthrough or LP. so we would get constant episodes, getting to go on the journey with him, always worried one of our favourite members could die.
    But now, its so formulatic. with the "1 video" format, we cant grow attached to team members. its just another catch. With mono type runs, we already know all the mons they're gonna use. No surprises like Kroma getting Dunsparce in Dark Cave, or Marriland being stuck with Pachirisu over Ralts.
    (Not to mention, it breaks the "first encounter rule", becasue unless two of that type are on a route, you are just running away from encounters until u get the only 1 of that type. You aren't doing a nuzlocke at this point. its a Mono run with permadeath)
    Also, the "hard core nuzlocke" monicer is redundant. When i first heard it, i thought there'd be super extra hard rules, but its the exaxt same rules Marriland had been doing from Platinum onward, and he never called it anything other than Nuzlocke.
    But the absolute WORST part of the modern nuzlocker is EV training/stat exp. Maxing your stats PERFECTLY makes things super boring to watch. "monferno 1shot all of roark's pokemon" No shit it did, you maxed its attack evs. In Marriland days, he trained Chimchar as you normally would. On the trainers getting to Orburgh City, getting the evs you'd naturally get. And yes, he'd do SOME exp grinding in the late game for Elite Four or high level gym leaders, but it was mostly a "what gives highest exp" thing, as opposed to "what will give me the best evs for the job". Jaiden didn't fight all those marril BECAUSE it gave HP evs, she did it because its a water type that Magneton could easily kill.
    I just really miss the personal feel of nuzlockers like Marilland.

    • @crushsoda82
      @crushsoda82 8 місяців тому +2

      Honestly wish Marriland got a bit more recognition in this video

  • @FishyRaverist
    @FishyRaverist Рік тому +52

    As someone who's been part of the nuzlocking community since it's inception, I can't help but feel as though wolfey completely glossed over so much of the history in favour of youtuber clout.

    • @Zorua3
      @Zorua3 Рік тому +23

      You’re absolutely right. Labeling this as a complete history is totally disingenuous.

  • @Pokeball35
    @Pokeball35 Рік тому +34

    Amazing video! I was really hoping you’d talk about TyranitarTube’s Extreme Randomizer Nuzlocke series. They’re modded version of main series games that have a completely brand new stories, characters and sometimes even Pokémon. They’re some of my favorites, but just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to different types of Nuzlockes.

  • @glaceiator4086
    @glaceiator4086 Рік тому +8

    wow, what a flashback after seeing marriland popping up then doing a wedlocke since he was doing one, damn time fly so fast

  • @mfz0967
    @mfz0967 Рік тому +7

    I was thinking “ No way I’m watching a 40min video on the History of Nuzlockes. And here I am 40 mins later. An absolute banger of a video.
    Much love Wolfey ❤

  • @rockyjmoon3
    @rockyjmoon3 Рік тому +19

    Fun fact. I was first introduced to Nuzlockes from a webcomic called “Myths of Unova”. And I absolutely loved it.

  • @alexblythe1156
    @alexblythe1156 Рік тому +3

    Wolfe~ you’ve been leveling up so much. It’s so great to see. The quality and marketing tactics are A+. I see you adding a popular video at the final seconds of the sponsor cut away. As people are reengaging. Love to see it

  • @aloisiosenra
    @aloisiosenra Рік тому +3

    I created a Nuzlocke Variant myself and played it to some extent: Lololocke. My nickname is Lolo, so that's why. It's basically a Hardcore Nuzlocke with two extra rules: I can get an extra "static" encounter per area where it applies (gift, interactable, etc), and I can change my team only ONCE PER CHECKPOINT. The checkpoints are the level caps set for the challenge, like gyms and such. If a pokémon dies in between checkpoints, I can box/release it and use that empty slot to capture a new pokémon (following all the previous rules) and add it immediately to the party. It's hard to play this way, but the challenge is so nice.

    • @BeyondTrash-xe1vs
      @BeyondTrash-xe1vs Рік тому +1

      Oh that's interesting, so you almost have to commit to your team for the next gym leader way in advance. Might not be so bad in the early game, but when you have to deal with the "evil team" of the game before you can make it to the next gym, suddenly a lot more planning is required.
      Cool idea!

  • @flameosaurus1832
    @flameosaurus1832 Рік тому +31

    I really miss the era where deaths still meant something to most people on emotional levels, and not just feeling sad because of losing a number in an army.

    • @pokepaar3696
      @pokepaar3696 Рік тому +2

      Yeah. I've been watching Flygon hd and this video made me realize the whole "Name your pokemon to build a bond" is basically out the window.
      I remembere when I did my B2 nuzlocke, when my leavanny died I cheated and brought her back (every time) because I was so attached

    • @ghostofalltime4934
      @ghostofalltime4934 6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah the early days had more of a narrative/emotional feel to it. It as your Nuzlocke journey. No, it's more much of just a gameplay challenge which is cool but doesn't seem as interesting to me.

  • @TsuchiGamer06
    @TsuchiGamer06 Рік тому +4

    It's soooooo crazy how I, as someone who has watched Pokemon SINCE 2012 on YT, I experienced this all. Especially as a fan of Shady, I didn't even know that he started the ball rolling like that. But I remember SO many people had Nuzlocke variants (especially Egg lockes were massive then).
    Feels wild being IN that all that history but not noticing it. I can only imagine how this is gonna feel when I see a history book later and talks about 2020 etc lmao.

  • @quitothings
    @quitothings Рік тому +1

    Incredible video!
    As someone who first started to exist on the internet in general because of Nuzlockes, really like how the Nuzlocke Forums were brought up as it was the very first online community that I joined. Kind of wished that they were covered a bit more with Written Stories and Screenshot Runs, though a lot of screenshot runs from the early days are missing their screenshots due to image hosting sites going down. But then again, it's nice to see that the forums were brought up at all!
    Fun fact: 0:21 I did the video in the top left! Never expected myself to technically be in a Wolfey wideo

  • @KingSandvich1
    @KingSandvich1 11 місяців тому +2

    Minor correction that I'm sure someone else has made:
    The original Nuzlocke ended in a party wipe at Champion Steven. It was only with the sequel, FireRed: Hard Mode, that the OG trainer won the Pokemon League.

    • @heinzdoofenshmirtz8643
      @heinzdoofenshmirtz8643 8 місяців тому

      Indeed. He lost Dogen the Medicham to Glacia's Walrein using Sheer Cold. Then, Mr. Humpy the female Camerupt fell to Drake's Salamence. The Steven battle began well, besides losing Hariyama to Armaldo. When Metagross came in, he had Absol use Perish Song. This was the only way he could even stand a chance at winning. Absol then died to Meteor Mash. Next was Katie the Walrein, who died to Earthquake. His final Pokémon was Sceptile. If Sceptile could live the turn, he would win. Then Metagross used Hyper Beam.

  • @NecrosVideos
    @NecrosVideos Рік тому +1

    Seeing the king Haydunn in the video was awesome!

  • @StickMaster500
    @StickMaster500 Рік тому +4

    It's always a treat to see Pokemon UA-camrs and Streamers taking on Nuzlockes and can't wait to see what other new challenge come in the future that becomes even harder than a Hardcore Nuzlocke!

  • @christophertrahan868
    @christophertrahan868 Рік тому +14

    As many others have said. Marriland was actually a huge bump in the Nuzlocke play style gaining variety
    .

    • @heinzdoofenshmirtz8643
      @heinzdoofenshmirtz8643 7 місяців тому +1

      Yes. He invented Wedlocke. And his Platinum Nuzlocke was Hardcore Nuzlocke before that was a thing. Level limit? Check. No items from the Bag in battle except for Poké Balls? Check. Set Mode? Check.

  • @nono-lz9qr
    @nono-lz9qr 11 місяців тому +7

    Lmao the first example of a hardcore nuzlocke rule set being used was from Marriland’s Pokemon Platinum run. That’s 3 whole years before Jan’s run.
    Also, the OG Nuzlocke comic ended in a failure. Metagross kills Absol before Perish Song can finish, and the rest of the team soon followed.
    So good job on making a history on Nuzlocking only to mess it up and hyper focus on 2020 to the present.

  • @sakispdsw
    @sakispdsw 9 місяців тому +4

    There was a really amazing guy i loved watching. Marriland. I was hooked to some of his nuzlockes and wedlockes

  • @truemoon564
    @truemoon564 Рік тому +3

    This video from all the shoutouts and all the well articulated information was incredible and I’ve learned a lot about nuzlocks, and being able to say I was around for some of the big moments like Jan beating emerald Kaizo is super awesome to look back on.

  • @mattbabineau197
    @mattbabineau197 Рік тому +2

    Real ones remember that Marriland’s platinum run was actually the first hardcore nuzlocke 😂
    Great video Wolfey!

  • @tl1326
    @tl1326 Рік тому +3

    4:41
    Wolfey: “the bar for being considered hilarious was a lot lower”
    also wolfey: **FART JOKE**

  • @JasmineRGBLights
    @JasmineRGBLights Рік тому +1

    Some of the comics that have come out of the Nuzlocke community are so good, I particularly remember enjoying Myths of Unova!
    Great video Wolfey :)

  • @MediumDSpeaks
    @MediumDSpeaks Рік тому +7

    I personally remember reading IN REAL TIME the original Nuzleaf Locke from Lost comic with my brother. We were in different parts of the country at the time and spoke on the phone for hours a day, and this was one of our favorite things to bond over, but any time I tried I would give up bc I am a Pokémon hoarder and never reset my files or release anything, perfect Pokémon Box, Bank and Home customer right here, whereas my brother would do them all the time. We've had lifelong nicknames for Pokémon like Explodio for drifblims and DLUX for Luxrays born from those early attempts we did

  • @maccheesey2746
    @maccheesey2746 Рік тому +10

    BlackLightAttack's Leafgreen Nuzlocke on TGN was huuuge back then, well edited for the time and came before Haydunn's. He's definitely the first person who did the border to show your team/badges through the whole thing

    • @EskimoArtillery
      @EskimoArtillery Рік тому +3

      Yes! BlackLightAttack's leafgreen nuzlocke was awesome!!

  • @noctapro6188
    @noctapro6188 Рік тому +9

    You deserve more than 1 million Wolfey. I don’t understand how you still aren’t there after all the great content.

    • @HazeEmry
      @HazeEmry Рік тому

      Less than 50k now, just realised

  • @vanman9142
    @vanman9142 Рік тому +1

    The editing in Wolfey’s videos have ascended to god-tier, seriously.

  • @dillconley112
    @dillconley112 Рік тому +5

    Ave's nuzlocke gauntlet was a blast to watch and was my real first exposure to nuzlockes along with the early Hardcore Nuzlockes

  • @ebonyway7877
    @ebonyway7877 Рік тому +1

    this comes out right as i reenter my 2012 nuzlocke comic obsession. thanks wolfey for another informative and entertaining vid!!

  • @arctiic7980
    @arctiic7980 Рік тому +3

    Marriland was my childhood nuzlocke introduction. His old teams are so memorable

  • @moonthejolteon5113
    @moonthejolteon5113 Рік тому

    I remember years ago watching Jaiden's video for the first time, i even grew attached to Sparky who died to Metagross. That hit hard, and man the joy when i saw the ending of the Nuzlocke... That encouraged me to try attempting my own Nuzlocke. Rn i am researching what i need to know before i attempt my first full playthrough. Nuzlockes bring people together, which is really special. Thanks for making this, it was awesome to see the beginning of something very special.

  • @LeCorbeauNoar
    @LeCorbeauNoar Рік тому +5

    as someone who have been reading nuzlocke comics/doing nuzlockes for a long time, tysm for talking about it, it's cool that a big content creator like you is talking about the history of this challenge

  • @googlemonopoly
    @googlemonopoly Рік тому +1

    It’s amazing how you can be so talented and smart at pokemon and also at your youtube career. it is all so polished. best of the best.

  • @Mertl.
    @Mertl. Рік тому +12

    Great video wolfey! I think you may have got the origin of the hardcore nuzlocke a tad wrong, though. It wasn’t classified as such, but I believe marriland implemented level caps and no items in his platinum nuzlocke a few years before pchal!

    • @BeyondTrash-xe1vs
      @BeyondTrash-xe1vs Рік тому +1

      Yep, Jan definitely popularized the hardcore nuzlocke, as well as name it. He's definitely a big reason why it's so widespread today. Marriland was undoubtedly the first to use the rules set though.

  • @metaljay77
    @metaljay77 Рік тому +1

    Absolutely loved this. Finally completed my first nuzlocke in December after watching so much content and using Jans strats.

  • @TheTupMan
    @TheTupMan Рік тому +4

    I never imagined that Wolfey would be the one to do a Nuzlocke history video, but I'm also ok with it.

  • @spokiepoker7367
    @spokiepoker7367 Рік тому +2

    Awesome video Wolfey. Got to say tho that Marrilands videos got me into nuzlockes which is basically all I play now as it relates to Pokémon. He brought a ton of emotion and story into a game that made the game feel unique to him even if he was just the base game we had played so many times. Plus I got to say that although he didn’t seem it a “hardcore nuzlocke,” his platinum nuzlocke was. No items, set, and no overleveling. His videos were a really great intro into nuzlocke as for people in the early to mid 2010s. Also shout out to Black Light Attacks lead green nuzlocke. I think it came out in 2011 and was one of the number one Pokémon video series at the time. Might be rhe funniest video series I’ve ever watched.

  • @tedursus
    @tedursus Рік тому +3

    "Jan has risen in the ranks to be one of the best known nuzlockers"
    immediately followed by
    "Thank you Jan for giving me this information"
    lol

    • @BeyondTrash-xe1vs
      @BeyondTrash-xe1vs Рік тому

      I'm sure Wolfe probably put that him itself, but that's still funny as hell 😂

  • @Hitesh_Bhadru.
    @Hitesh_Bhadru. Рік тому +1

    Dude, this might be my favourite video ever in UA-cam now.

  • @MrListaTelefonica
    @MrListaTelefonica Рік тому +4

    Honestly I love this so much. Nuzlocke webcomics and Pokémon Fórum anthics were such a huge part of my teenage years, and it's great to hear Wolfey retelling the community's history

  • @Beanie5524
    @Beanie5524 Рік тому

    36:30 I love the subtle reference to luds old intros where he would always say THE PLAN IS SIMPLE

  • @dovesoap5026
    @dovesoap5026 Рік тому +14

    Great video! I think the exclusion of nappy and the primetime group aside from luke, shady and a brief clip from jay is a necessary exclusion but it feels like a massive part of this video is missing. Additionally the first nuzlocke on youtube was actually done by BlackLightAttack with his fire red nuzlocke done on the TGN youtube channel. Beats haydunn out by about a month, so not a super important distinction but it felt right to mention. Again great video i hope you do more stuff like this.

    • @darkfireguy
      @darkfireguy 11 місяців тому

      censoring history is never necessary. Rewriting history for any reason whatsoever is bad regardless of who is being erased

  • @tastefullynerdy1161
    @tastefullynerdy1161 Рік тому +1

    Love that you added Kuru's Underground 2 Nuzzlocke for a second :D

  • @neel500
    @neel500 Рік тому +7

    Hope you get your 1M soon Wolfey.. the amount of effort you're putting in these videos, you abso-freaking-lutely deserve it.

  • @synlynx869
    @synlynx869 9 місяців тому +2

    14:15 „…instead let‘s talk about the other most important thing that happened in 2016“
    The fact that he didn‘t even reference whoever won worlds that year betrays a level of humbleness I cannot hope to attain.

  • @theItalianAceTrainer
    @theItalianAceTrainer Рік тому +3

    Just an incredible job on this one Wolfey! It's really cool to see how nuzlockes have evolved throughout the years! Your emerald kaizo nuzlocke will always be one of my favorites pieces of Pokemon content ever

  • @notsosilentprotag
    @notsosilentprotag Рік тому +1

    Also love the TFS shout out as they were the ones who got me into Nuzlocks...Wolfie please do more poke Docs...this is great

  • @tomtom-tz6zc
    @tomtom-tz6zc Рік тому +4

    Great video overall, I feel like TyranitarTube's extreme series should have been mentioned, it was my first perosnal time hearing of a nuzlcoke, and its one of the more well known nuzlockes out there

  • @Tentaphox
    @Tentaphox Рік тому +1

    I remember being on Deviantart Forums all the time reading new nuzlocke comics that were being published, waiting for the next episodes eagarly. I even started my own, though only got four pages or so of them out xD!!! This video's made me really want to dust out one of the gen7 games and give it a reset to locke, since I haven't completed one since gen6. Thank you for your hard work on this!

  • @123pepijn123
    @123pepijn123 Рік тому +12

    Should’ve mentioned Projared and his amazing firered series in I think 2012/2013. For me, that started the nuzlocke hype, earlier than almost every example given in this video.

    • @Sgt_Kilborn
      @Sgt_Kilborn Рік тому +8

      Probably because ProJared is "problematic" like the early days of internet humor, according to the 🤡 who made this video

  • @i_just_work_here.
    @i_just_work_here. Рік тому +1

    For me my first experience watching a nuzlocke was through TheKingNappy circa 2014. Loud, bombastic and charismatic humour was a treat to watch in the mornings before high school. Leading me to channels like Shady, GB Luke and HoodlumScrafty (went under a name change, can’t remember it off the top of my head).
    It was around this time I was nearly ready to leave the franchise, and whilst Nappy has a problematic past attached to him, I have to thank him for bringing love back into the franchise for me through the nuzlocke and let’s plays

  • @sebastienakl8297
    @sebastienakl8297 Рік тому +16

    There's tyranitar tube's extreme nuzlocke series, pretty popular with a custom story and shadow mons, etc... Worth the mention, one of the best out there

  • @91Caesar
    @91Caesar Рік тому

    I never knew the context of the "use sub first" clip until today, but now it is possibly my favourite moment in Nuzlocke history

  • @MirthfulMikey
    @MirthfulMikey Рік тому +6

    Shout out to my boy Marriland - he created the Wedlocke and implemented a lot of those self imposed challenges before most

    • @heinzdoofenshmirtz8643
      @heinzdoofenshmirtz8643 7 місяців тому +2

      Yep. His Platinum Nuzlocke was a Hardcore Nuzlocke before Hardcore Nuzlocke was a thing.

  • @SaltyySmalls
    @SaltyySmalls Рік тому

    Dude I’ve been watching your videos since XY and I have to say I’m VERY happy for how much your channel has grown since then. It’s actually incredible seeing you almost hit 1 million. You’ve put a lot of work in, congrats bro