The Niagra falls tour ferries (Maid of the myst 1 and 2) , which holds hundreds of passengers each, is battery powered. No issues for over a decade now. They run over 8 hours a day.
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Remember the Clean the Pacific Trash Patch, they are advertised to use full electric power. Guess where are they now? No recent news and last I heard their fully electric model is not viable and not eco friendly so they are pushing for the diesel engine models.
Funny that he was " the dim person" that didn't realize how outdated diesel is... as such if i had heard about how dim i was in local news i might have held out for a full 100k because i was defamed ( or maybe just butthurt like woke left idiots)
@@theotheleo6830 actually.. buying a marine deisel at 17k was an act of brilliance... shows the man was enlightened enough to know that deisel engines are worth money but a marine deisel is worth about 75% more. A typical cummins engine from a pickup truck is a 20k investment new. Used they can still fetch 10k. Than there is all the other components of a natical vessel that are worth buttloads of money. Now you take the scrap value of steel alone for that and add that altogether you have a 100k boat. So... who was the real dim people in this?? As i said if i was the buyer that was called "dim" i would have held out for a full 100k return on my investment.
@@FrankStein1 But he did nothing with it. He didn't recycle it, he didn't sell the engines, he just let the ferry sit idle and rot. So, it was just dumb luck.
@@theotheleo6830 Not really luck, guessed correctly that the "new and improved" model was not going to work. Bought the old one and just waited until they came back begging to buy back the boat.
@@Michael-j4l3d That is what I was thinking ... they could span the entire 100 meters with a cable and not have to have a battery or panels ... they can still have the panels on land and it would be a place to get out the weather while ya wait. They could have literally just replaced the diesel with an electric motor and run a cable. Someone if getting paid on the back end for sure ... because the idea they came up with was pretty damn stupid and costly.
This whole video is misinformation. Half truths mixed with implied lies. He makes you think the new ferry doesn't work, so they're just going back to the old one. €3.5m wasted. Well, no. They're fixing the problems and using the new ferry anyway, next year. Because the new ferry is twice as big, and the old one is in very poor condition, and old. You'd not be surprised to learn that ships have a finite lifespan, and as they get old, maintenance costs go up. They didn't just decided to replace a diesel ferry with an electric one out of the blue for no reason. The old ferry was up for refurb or replacement, and they decided to replace it with an electric one, twice as big. The boondoggle was to sell it for scrap too quick, only to find out the replacement doesn't work, and they wasted €50,000 buying back the old one (fortunately not yet scraped), and another €50,000 to fix it up enough to use it for another year, while they fix the problems with the new one. Most of the problem with the electric ferry is it was much bigger, the guide cables were not strong enough for it, and the electric motors were not sized big enough.
@@danielch6662guess the slave children need to head back to the toxic lithium mines to make bigger batteries for the new more better doesn’t work, great zero emissions ferry that’s worse for the environment and only works during sunny times.
That guy who bought the diesel ferry just put his feet up and waited for the powers to be to realise their error and buy it back off him for a nice little profit. Priceless....🤣
The powers that SHOULDN’T BE. Why? Well, they failed to perform due diligence on the viability of the electric ferry, therefore they are clearly incompetent. What more proof do we need?
That makes it a sailor story. You know the difference between a fairy tale and a sailor story? A fairy tail begins "once upon a time" and a sailor story begins " no sh!t"
@@markuskruger2102 : And they still will for decades to come, you'll never produce enough of anything else to fit them all out especially when everyone else is back to wearing loin cloths.
This is actually what is happening. CCS is on capturing politicians, and only storing and sequestering taxpayers money in the dividends of private shareholders.
The guy probably cared about the original ferry and didn't want to see it go for scrap, maybe a floating museum instead, so he bought it. Well he was right and thankful agreeable. I definitely be putting in a clause though, if they tried to get rid of it again, first dips at a reasonable price. It's story is only growing lol
The SNP spent £ 3.56M on a government house in Elgin to make it Energy efficient. The Building is valued at around £300K. Estimated to take over a 1000 ( one thousand ) Years to reach pay back.
And what about the SNP failed ferry debacle. They poured vast amounts of taxpayers money into the latest concept of ferry. It's still moored alongside, incomplete & pointless. Even the windows of the bridge have only been painted on.
Years ago I was a motorcycle police officer and myself and another motor officer were sent to a park here in Tucson Arizona USA to attend the ribbon cutting for the city's first electric bus. We went there and witnessed all the really smart city officials tout the use of the electric bus. We waited through all the back patting and it finally came time to take a drive. All the smart people got on and off we went! Myself and the other officer were following behind and had a problem keeping pace with this bus since it was going all of 4 (FOUR) miles an hour. I pulled next to the driver and asked when he was going to get going and he looked at me disgustedly and said this is as fast as it goes. I had to tell him that there were numerous cars backed up behind him and it was a 45 MPH speed zone. He just shook his head. My partner and I decided to leave. The bus was parked at the city bus lot forever. Smart people and taxpayers money.
Can you give a date when this occurred or a news link so I can check veracity. In terms of horsepower per unit weight electric motors have many times more 'oomph' than you can get from a combustion engine. That why the largest motor power plants on the planet (in boats and trains) are electric - so its a bit weird and sounds bogus that they fitted such a small horsepower motor into that bus. There would be no reason. A bus typically has 300hp engine - which is way less than in my Tesla and which I can lift out by hand. You can now get 400hp motors that fits within a wheel hub and slip into a carrybag.
@@bbbf09 Those largest motor power plants on the planet (boats and trains) are not powered by batteries. They normally have diesel generators or are connected to the electric grid, neither sources are affected by the ambient temperature being too hot or too cold.
The misguided foot soldiers might care about the environment but the people at the top made their billions selling oil and to them it's about control and nothing more.
@@johnwade1095 Actually, people like the Two Tier Twat are extremely competent. That is, extremely competent at taking away our freedom and destroying the country very very quickly.
The hubris of our age is unfathomable! Common sense would require that the old diesel ferry be maintained in service until such time as the new and unproven craft had proven its capacity to reliably perform the task. Even then it could be valuable to retain as backup.
But you see, the point of all the climate hysteria isn't to provide actual practical solutions... it's just an excuse for politicians to gain more money and power.
As a boatman in the UK in an area known for its winds and tides, the first thing which stood out when I looked at the photo of this new ferry was how much windage will be on them panels! Absolute madness, which is all I ever see when net zero is mentioned. ⚓️🦈
It seems as though if the ferry lists in a strong side wind it will present _more_ surface area to the wind. That can't be ideal. Waiting for some green genius to come to the conclusion the roof needs some wind turbines as well 😂
@@ferrumignisI’ve just found her on ships AIS and she’s currently moored in a harbour and has been for a few days so she’s not been working.. there’s a few photos of her and it looks like there’s plenty of air draft but very little draft in the water which means she’s not going to have much grip.. being that she’s a chain ferry, extra forces will be applied! I’ve just had a Quick Look at the weather in that area and the wind is ripping down the river so it would be directly on her beam.. I’m guessing she will be then pushed up or down stream making her cables go in a big arc. What’s also worth noting is that every time she has to be moved to another location, then a diesel powered tug will need to be used.. there’s actually a photo of her underway being pushed by a tug 😂⚓️🦈
Hey Geoff, as someone working in the electric design for an electrical utility company in England I can tell you the following. We have a customer [contractor building company] who has bought a house on a housing estate and is going to knock it down and build 6 new houses on the same plot of land. And they need to pay us to install the new electrical supplies into their new houses. The housing estate was built in the 1964 and the substation on site feeds 109 houses. Each house was originally allocated 2.5KVA of load [total of 272KVA] so the substation that was installed is designed to supply a 300KVA load. The new 6 new houses they want to build will have EV charging and ground source heat pumps for their heating. That means each new house will require a 23KVA load each, [so that is an additional load of 138KVA that will be required to be feed off of this old existing substation] We have priced up to lay a dedicated new LV mains cable from these 6 houses all the way back to the existing substation and the cost is about £48,000. But the problems is that this new additional load for these 6 new houses alone will require half as much power again as to what the existing substation is already supplying. We now have to go to the existing substation and fit bespoke monitoring equipment so to get a real time accurate record of the power that this substation is actually supplying and assess if it can cope with the extra load. [and we expect that it cannot ] This means that in order to give the extra power required we will need to rip the old substation out and replace it with a new upgraded one. This will push the costs up to between £130,000 and £150,000 depending on the other extra works that will be required further down the road. [all this to give electric power to 6 new houses] Can you imagine what it would cost if every house on this estate applied to have an upgrade to allow an EV charger at home.
@@robg521 They stupidly assumed the in situ arrangement would be more than adequate for their needs. How on Earth did this six property development with E.V. charging get planning permission. 🤷🏻♂️
As an electrical engineer myself I've been saying this for ages. I have a 60amp fuse on my property but the local system was designed for about 10amps continuous per household. Yet the smallest fixed EV charging point is 7.5KVA or 30 amps. I do have a 30 amp ring for my cooker but that doesn't use a 30amp load continuously, unlike an EV battery charger. If you want to charge a 75KW battery from flat on a 7.5KVA charger it's going to take a minimum of 10 hours at 30 amps. It's never going to happen without massive investment in the generating capacity, grid and local distribution network, none of which is happening on anything like the required scale, if at all. Next step will be energy rationing. Smart meter, anybody?
@@bruceknights8330 Did they not already legislate that all new domestic EV chargers have to have their own smart meter? Certainly the ultimate intention is that EV charging can be turned off or priced prohibitively if the capacity isn't there (wind not blowing) or indeed use the EV batteries as grid backup. Of course this means they are not of any serious use if you can get up for work in the morning and find your EV hasn't charged overnight or indeed has been drained.
@@bruceknights8330 my electric supplier is trying to push me to having a smart meter installed, which I am resisting hard. They tell me that my current meter is out of warranty and no longer supported and that no one makes non-smart meters anymore. I have no clue if that is true or not.
Some town in New England decided to go green and installed LED traffic lights. Then winter arrived and turned them into hanging blocks of ice, because the old lights used the heat of the bulbs to prevent freezing. So the town installed electric heaters on the LED lights, and quadrupled the electric energy usage.
I worked in a building that had about 10 fire doors. They were held open by electromagnets, so the fire system could close then by cutting power to the magnets. We got an email that (name of person) had come up with a great way to save power. The magnets would be powered off from 6 pm to 6 am. The hydraulic damper in one of the door closers had failed. Every night at 6, this one heavy fire door would slam shut, rattling that whole section of the building. After a week of that, I decided to report it as a safety concern. I also got curious about how much power we were saving. So I looked up the power draw, times number of doors, times 12 hours/day, times 365, times power rate. It came out to about $100/year. In my email, I also suggested that a single injury caused by a closing door would likely cost more than all the savings they could ever achieve. Shortly after, the doors stopped closing at 6. There was no email praising me for my valuable safety suggestion.
there's a chap called Marshall Julius who gave me this quote from Groucho Marx which perfectly surmises this who fiasco "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies."
Come to New South Wales Australia, our Government bought new electric trains, insufficient power to handle some inclines that they were designed for. Next round bought new carriages, too wide to clear the platforms so the tracks have to be re-laid to clear the platforms. New trams, structurally unsound and needed major repairs. New motorway, increased travel times up to 1/2 an hour. Local council rebuilt a road, 3 months later pulled and rebuilt. Some bridge repairs and the foreman was overheard by a local castigating the workmen for finishing ahead of time. I am sure that you have all been there.
Sometimes you've got to wonder if all these "mishaps" are done on purpose so someone gets paid more money for ongoing fixes and someone else gets more kickbacks. They just can't be that stupid at everything. Can they?
@trechernga1299 they are in South africa atleast. It's been proven that sort of thing happens there. They even purposefully break stuff so they can get paid to fix it, or profit off of those getting paid to fix it.
Its not the electrification As such to blame, its the poor design to blame. We have electric converted car ferries in Sweden, but they are connected to the grid. The electric cable is simply winded in and out on anlarge spool. Would have been a much better solution, like that, and then maybe putting the solar panels on shore instead. Why simple when you can make it complicated. 😊
Here in Germany there is a legend about the citizens of a place called Schilda. In Schilda the citizens had a new council hall built. After it was completed the brave citizens of Schilda noticed that the windows had been forgotten and that it was pitch black in their hall. But because the citizens of Schilda were clever people and believed in the powers of nature, a particularly clever person suggested carrying daylight into the hall in buckets and pouring it out there. This suggestion was immediately implemented and the citizens of Schilda carried the sunlight into the hall in their buckets with great enthusiasm... and they still do it today because it just wouldn't get any brighter. Schilda is the greatest role model for the red-green bourgeoisie in Berlin. Now the whole world is laughing at Germany. The eco-green Salvation Army has thoroughly earned it.
I know know why Germany has those big liquor stores everywere and packed with customers filling their carts with booze. Numming the nervs / getting waisted is the only way to deal with the stupidity of German red tape / activistic burocrats.
This reads as a post apocalyptic story we tell our children about the dangers of the SUN WORSHIPERS. Ie the Solar Climate Cult. No srsly they brought back peganism. Look how we must sacrifice cattle to Mother Nature too
That would pose many issues, as Geoff said it is in a nature preserve and even adding something simple as a pole for the guiding cable has to go through a ton bureaucracy.
@@Momoka7True. Oddly enough, it's bureaucrats that made this mess. Not necessarily the same office. Either way, it seems one office doesn't recognise the other. 🤣
Surely fitting bow-thrusters will mean having to fit additional "solar" panels to recharge the extra batteries required. Bow-thrusters use a hellish amount of power. Luckily they will be able to recharge these batteries at night from the upcoming Betelgeuse supernova we have been promised sometime in the next 500,000 years. 🤣🤣🤣
Any semi-competent engineer will tell you that sticking solar panels on the roof of that thing won't generate enough power to run even just its hydraulic pump. On a sunny day you'll get 10-20kW MAX. 50 if it's the size of the ones they run across the channel. Pretty sure ships' main engines produce power of the order of MEGAwatts to run the screws & thrusters. This is why politics has no place in industry of any kind. These people have no concept of reality.
The problem with politicians etc is its not coming out of their pockets so they don't care what it costs as long as they can tick that little box and pat each other on the back 🙄
Oh the problem is real alright, but this isn't the solution. We're already in too deep even for the real solution (ironically also all but killed by the envirocult 50 years ago), so we're stuck dealing with the consequences. Yet instead of planning how to address those (like grown-ass adults with an ounce of wisdom) we've let this cult own the narrative and waste precious resource trying to "prevent" what's already happened.
@@skunkjobb : The Net zero agenda is not even based on reality, it was an idea put forward by the UN to speed up the WEF push towards global control. If you do not know the huge amount of carbon emissions caused by production and attempted recycling of Net Zero products you should research it. One day, when we are back to shovelling horse shit from our roads and you have no mobile phones, computers, medicines etc you might just, and I only say might, wake up to reality.
You know what does have zero emissions? A bridge. When you are talking millions of euros for your green solution and fixes for your mistake, maybe doing it right the first time with a bridge would’ve been the better choice.
This did happen in the country which shut down all its nuclear power stations immediately in the wake of Fukushima - presumably because of the ever-present risk of tsunamis in Bavaria.
Everyone who can read data, knows that, yes, the climate does change, but that we are far from able to control it. But, when you politicizeit, you know someone is going to waste money.
This is why governments are absolutely dogshit at “investing money”. So anytime politicians talk about “investing your taxpayer dollars” don’t be fooled again, it usually means “lining our pockets with the shell companies receiving your taxpayer money”
Yeah but it sure made their overindulgent peons feel special about themselves. Blown out dopamine receptors from nonstop mindless fads and they’re now below the level of functioning of a hardcore heroin addict. They can barely do anything anymore but rot and take everyone with them.
The ferry at Missunde is a cable ferry. meaning that it is connected to either shore through a cable... Why not add an electric cable reel and the ferry will have all the power it needs directly from the grid, with no need for expensive and resource demanding batteries and solar cells that wear out. This could have been re fitted to the old Missunde II ferry, it could have kept its diesel engine in case of a power outage and used a grid connected electrical motor for daily operation.
This story has made my day after making complaints to the TV licence fascists & asking the current prime minister why I have not received feedback about my complaint against him & all authorities central & locals criminal acts.
I think it was in England or Canada or some other country🤣 where the police Department decided to buy an Electric squad car. An electric car where they work 24 hours a day. Well the EV ended up dying with no way to charge it somewhere in the city😉 SMART PEOPLE leading us folks
Seems like something similar happened in the US. They had the charging infrastructure but it took too long charging for the dynamic environment of police work. I think the EV got demoted to public safety events and other less taxing duties.
I used to certify ship electrical systems and though I never certified systems aboard an electric ferry I know that DNV have done and several of those battery powered vessels went up in flames in their first year of operation due to battery thermal runaway. Big batteries equals big problems.
Thank you for that story. Why can't the engineers who are so committed to these electric vehicles calculate basic factors other engineers would know when they design vehicles to make them functional????
Most likely either A) The thing went to the lowest bidder (Aka son of a cousin of a friend of the mayor) who had no real experience and simply used a diesel ferry plan with tack on parts B) The politicians went first to a proper source, saw the costs and then did a variation of A) C) Someone bought "cheap and generic" instead of looking at the real situation
Because they know it's a scam. Every person who works for/is contracted by government figures out it's all grift, and any honest person leaves after that.
It's simple. The engineers told the politicians "this won't bloody work, mate" and the politicians said "too bad we're doing it anyways because it makes us look good".
imagine all the forms and consultants to do analysis on putting up a bridge, then you have all the fees to pay government officials to sign said forms and the particular robin who lives and traverses the particular route where the bridge will go. NIMBYism will be at volume to make a 747 taking off blush.
I believe there are similar issues with the Scottish car ferry suppliers, and ongoing issues with the chain link ferry on the Isle of Wight. Nice way to restrict movement ..
The electric ferries in Scotland are far slower than the diesel ones they replaced but no doubt the "savings" claimed aren't compared to the diesels at the same speed, and of course the service isn't equivalent.
@@roadie4360 There are several of the small double ended ones. Not sure where they are using them now but Tarbert - Portavadie had one in recent years.
Something similar happened closer to home. They sold the old cargo ferry for the Scillies bought a new one which was unable to support the vitally necessary crane so guess what the old ferry is now back in service. Brilliant work by Sciles Steamship Co....
Why do UK have all this problems with electric ferries? In Norway we past 73 electric ferries in Jun 2023, and they are all just so much better then the outdated ones. Is this caused by the corruption in UK, you think?.
@@kimantonsen5595 I think it was suggested that ferries were bought from Norway as they have a good track record, would have cost less and been in service sooner but that made too much sense for the SNP, they preferred to give the contract to a Scottish shipyard to supposedly save it from going under, turned out its order book was actually full and no extra capacity, I think its now about 4 years late is way over budget, the dual fuel system doesn't work and it's still not in service and I don't think the second one ordered at the same time has even been started. Stupidity knows no bounds where the Scottish government is concerned!
That's nothing. You should look up Cowes floating bridge ferry. Millions of taxpayers money spent. On off ramps weren't suitable when put into service and is broke down more than in use. Proper joke here on the Isle of Wight.
The dude that purchased the old ferry for $17K and sold it back for $100K is a genius. He likely understood how it would play out and made an effortless $83K profit.
Has this ferry ever operational in the last 10 years`? I passed through there like 3 times in the last 10 years and it never was operational. If this ferry connection is not working you have to make a huge detour. Bad when the next bridge is also closed. Germany like usual.
Read about the Scottish Ferry fiasco, utter disaster that has cost the thick end of £500 million on an original budget of£97million, 9 years to build and supply two ferries for CalMac to service Island routes and they still haven't got one in operation, the Scottish Government paid over £600,000 on a feasibility study as to whether they should continue with the second ferry hull, the study reported back that it would be cheaper to scrap the hull and go to a shipbuilder in say Korea, as the Isle of Man did, and get them to build a new ferry, the Scottish Government of course has done the sensible thing and decided to ignore the study findings and keep pouring more money down the ferry black hole.
@@roadie4360 Those two are diesel / LNG. Except they haven't even started to put in the LNG infrastructure... They already have some much smaller electric ones.
@@NiallWardrop Whoever decided on the dual fuel was an utter moron but that was just one of many mistakes to put it mildly, Sturgeon at one point before her fall admitted that the SNP were effectively running a job retention scheme rather than trying to get ships built, not only that but they don't know how or where something like £160 million was even spent.
I got a job advert sent me today. Oil company ENI is looking for a manufacturing plant manager for it's agri oils plants in: Mozambique. So this looks like ENI have persuaded an impoverished African Nation into grow Oil and not FOOD. Next time you hear of a famine in an African nation we have to ask ourselves how much of the land is being used for Bio Fuels to help Greta's Sailing team over to the USA the next time she wants to sail the king of Monaco's ( he of the Monaco F1 fame) sailing yacht.
@@altvamp By ship, like they do do for that green powerstation in the UK, they were forced to stop using locally mined coal so now have to rely on massive ships going back and forth to Canada to get the wood that now powers it..millions of tonnes of it each year. so green.
Saw this story last week, you could not make it up. Needs to be on the national news to illustrate how useless evs are but of course it won't be. Thanks to people like you Geoff the word is getting through.
Sold the old clunker for a song, then bought it back (in need of repair) for six times the price - this is the most hilarious story I've heard in ages, thank you so much for sharing it! 10/10 for the old ferry's temporary owner - best investment! 😅😂🤣
wait, it was sold for 17k and they bought it back for 100k? these officials are really bad at this aren't they? of course the guy that bought it came out the winner didn't he? good for him 👍
Some people arent good with money. A few years ago (at the company, i was working for, at the time) they sold one of their old, 18ton, trucks. A truck that age, that size, is about 20.000€. So i asked them, how much they wanted? After many back and forth and only getting answers like "Oh that will cost cou a lot!" or "We want good money for it" They finally said "2000€ at least!" I looked at them and said "Wait two minutes, i go to the bank and be right back."
I am willing to wager that not one of those involved with this hare-brained project has ever been sacked, prosecuted or ostracised over the whole costly, tome-wasting and ridiculous debacle. They could have built a ruddy bridge with all the money wasted and kept the old ferry running until completed.
Are you kidding? They likely got a nice campaign donations from the seller of the new ferry and person that bought the old one and sold it back. It wouldn't surprise me if they were both family members.
@@TRexo-ds5ze A literal story about political incompetence and malfeasance, but not the USA so at least is isn't the singular "toxic political culture" in the world. Wait, are you related to them? How much was your commission on that sale?
Almost every ship above a certain tonnage uses electric propulsion. It's infinitely more efficient to run copper cables and angry up the pixies in bow thrusters, pod thrusters and even in a lot of cases main screws than it would be to run hydraulic lines or mechanical driveshafts. These ships have city sized diesel engines or nuclear reactors to angry up said pixies but the point is electric motors are great but they need to be used correctly.
Perhaps they should have mounted those solar panels on a vertical pole, which they could have called a "mast", and rotated them so that the wind pushed the boat along the cables.
The solar panels need an appropriate angle to be efficient. Using them as a sail is a bad idea even if that's what was going to happen. The most appropriate solution would likely have been to modify the ferry system to mount the motors to the building and use the guide cables instead to pull the ferry across. It still would have taken a considerable retrofit though, so they'd be in the same position but the ferry would still be much lighter, potentially being able to carry more cars.
@@supernova743 Actually, they are going to vertically mounted panels now because they are more efficient. |||||| is better than --------. Counter-intuitive.
@@NVArt001Vertical bifacial panels only produce more energy in a specific condition (snow). They produce more even power (morning and evening) when in a north/south orientation. They would produce almost no energy in an east/west orientation or when the sun is high overhead.
It wasn't stupidity; it was a chance for grift which the councilmembers could not pass up. They probably got kickbacks from the electric ferry builder.
@@angrydachshund The kickbacks exist in much other sinister forms. How many committees and deskjobs have been created to maintain, upgrade and bring ferry3 into service. There will be a whole nuther group of jobs and contracts let to bring the terminals up to task for the heavier boat and all these jobs will go to companies in the enviro MENTAL community. By the time the boat it is brought up to task it will probably draft to deep for the crossing and it will need to be dredged. Perhaps the eco people will in an attempt to have equality of outcomes will have a direct drive windmill installed on a mast. The more the wind blows the more drive for the propellor minus mechanical losses. Remember always that with all liberal groups the practicality, thinking through, and actual results matter NOT. It is only that they intended well and tried really, really hard.
I mean there's nothing wrong with "Going Green" if you actually work out the math first and see if your plan makes sense. Problem is governments "Go Green" mostly to give kickbacks to their donors and never bother to look and see if its a good idea to do so. If they actualy wanted an electric ferry it wouldnt be hard for this distance. Dont mount the solar panels on the ship. Mount them on each bank charging up a set of batteries. Put just enough battery power on the ship to handle a couple of round trips and just plug it in at each dock while waiting for passengers to get on/off. Also size the thrusters for the craft, poor planning there. Someone probably got a masisve commission selling a self contained system even though it was not fit for the desired use. I mean heck they could skip the solar altogeather and just relly on grid power.
@@merendell Of course there's a problem with "going green", it *cannot be done.* Solar panels are limited from all angles, windmills produce crap amounts compared with the cost and "carbon footprint" of building them, materials used and their production demands more eco-destruction than what you'd be preventing, etc. It's a scam that's been tried and ruined a couple Countries already.
Why do they need to ferry the solar panels back and forth on every trip. They should have placed them on the shore and charged the ferry batteries upon docking. That would have solved the wind problem as well.
I was driving past Playing Place many years ago and burst into laughter as some miscreant had slightly altered the letters on the road sign to read "King Hairy Fanny" 😂
@@ferrumignis excellent, missed that one! A couple of years ago. The station name of Gare de Bourg Saint Maurice, Eurostar’s terminal for winter ski trains had its letters rearranged one night to read "Gare suce ma bite » I’ll let you work out for yourself what that means in English. Needless to say SNCF were NOT amused….
Just came back from Norway, the whole country is tied together by tunnels and ferries crossing the fjords and sea. At least half of the ferries were electric, and they worked flawlessly 😬
I used to work at an Energy Department facility. They had a project that involved recycling nuclear fuels and had a very large processing system. When the system, made mostly of various exotic stainless steel varieties was nearly finished, the government decided to cut the budget. The project was cancelled and the pipes and valves, tanks and vessels, were all torn out and sold to a scrap metals dealer. Then someone realized that the processing system was classified "Secret" and the scrap yard didn't have any kind of a clearance. So they had to quietly buy everything back from the scrapper for a lot more than he paid and cut it all up very small. Then they sold it back to him for a lot less than they had paid him to get it back. He made better than double what he would have gotten for it on the first transaction, and the government cut it up and sorted it for him.
My solar powered canoe worked flawlessly for years. A small panel charged the battery. I ran a 50 lb troller with a machete prop. Old school recyclable lead acid, $120 deep cycle. Top speed was around jogging speed. It ran silently, no smells, no gas to go buy and cheap as hell. I don't even need a trailer. The whole rig was around $300. Rechristened the "inspiring canoe", she hosted many good times. 3 friends and a cooler of beer.
That would be the best and simpliest idea... as well as reducing cost in the long term.... but you forget the eco-mob have only one braincell between them lol
@@hudsonbear5038It is a Izan tactic to give easy passes to the stupendously dim and then issue said dimwits with decision making roles, to which they are then instructed to make idiotic decisions. Its one of history's lessons.
This one has made my day 😂😂😂
The Niagra falls tour ferries (Maid of the myst 1 and 2) , which holds hundreds of passengers each, is battery powered. No issues for over a decade now. They run over 8 hours a day.
For that much money they could have built a bridge.
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Another subject for "Great Moments in Unintended Consequences".
Remember the Clean the Pacific Trash Patch, they are advertised to use full electric power. Guess where are they now? No recent news and last I heard their fully electric model is not viable and not eco friendly so they are pushing for the diesel engine models.
Bought it for 17K, did nothing with it or to it, but sold it back for 100K? This guy is a hero.
Funny that he was " the dim person" that didn't realize how outdated diesel is... as such if i had heard about how dim i was in local news i might have held out for a full 100k because i was defamed ( or maybe just butthurt like woke left idiots)
@@FrankStein1 It was pure dumb luck for him. After all, he did nothing with the ferry and allowed it to sit and decay.
@@theotheleo6830 actually.. buying a marine deisel at 17k was an act of brilliance... shows the man was enlightened enough to know that deisel engines are worth money but a marine deisel is worth about 75% more. A typical cummins engine from a pickup truck is a 20k investment new. Used they can still fetch 10k. Than there is all the other components of a natical vessel that are worth buttloads of money. Now you take the scrap value of steel alone for that and add that altogether you have a 100k boat. So... who was the real dim people in this?? As i said if i was the buyer that was called "dim" i would have held out for a full 100k return on my investment.
@@FrankStein1 But he did nothing with it. He didn't recycle it, he didn't sell the engines, he just let the ferry sit idle and rot. So, it was just dumb luck.
@@theotheleo6830 Not really luck, guessed correctly that the "new and improved" model was not going to work. Bought the old one and just waited until they came back begging to buy back the boat.
Diesel ferry moves forward, unburdened by what has been 😂
They just need to remove the roof and solar panels then just run a massive electric cable from the shore to power the boat simple as.
Queue the “joy”
And not bothered by the passage of time.
It came from a middle-class family…
@@Michael-j4l3d That is what I was thinking ... they could span the entire 100 meters with a cable and not have to have a battery or panels ... they can still have the panels on land and it would be a place to get out the weather while ya wait. They could have literally just replaced the diesel with an electric motor and run a cable. Someone if getting paid on the back end for sure ... because the idea they came up with was pretty damn stupid and costly.
WHAT A WASTE!!!..😮 Someone should be fired for STUPIDITY and CORRUPTION!!!😢
This whole video is misinformation. Half truths mixed with implied lies. He makes you think the new ferry doesn't work, so they're just going back to the old one. €3.5m wasted.
Well, no. They're fixing the problems and using the new ferry anyway, next year. Because the new ferry is twice as big, and the old one is in very poor condition, and old. You'd not be surprised to learn that ships have a finite lifespan, and as they get old, maintenance costs go up.
They didn't just decided to replace a diesel ferry with an electric one out of the blue for no reason. The old ferry was up for refurb or replacement, and they decided to replace it with an electric one, twice as big.
The boondoggle was to sell it for scrap too quick, only to find out the replacement doesn't work, and they wasted €50,000 buying back the old one (fortunately not yet scraped), and another €50,000 to fix it up enough to use it for another year, while they fix the problems with the new one. Most of the problem with the electric ferry is it was much bigger, the guide cables were not strong enough for it, and the electric motors were not sized big enough.
@@danielch6662guess the slave children need to head back to the toxic lithium mines to make bigger batteries for the new more better doesn’t work, great zero emissions ferry that’s worse for the environment and only works during sunny times.
@@danielch6662 so if I read you right the headline story was an exaggeration in the details, but it wasn't wrong in the basics?
Not fired...PRISON
That guy who bought the diesel ferry just put his feet up and waited for the powers to be to realise their error and buy it back off him for a nice little profit. Priceless....🤣
You wonder if it was purposeful or just dumb luck.
@@quademasters249 Either way, I'd like to buy that man a pint. He's a legend.
@musicbruv and on top of that they have to still pay another 2 million to get it back I to a working condition
Love this comment thread....lol
The powers that SHOULDN’T BE. Why? Well, they failed to perform due diligence on the viability of the electric ferry, therefore they are clearly incompetent. What more proof do we need?
Oh no. Not a Ferry Tale! 😊
That makes it a sailor story. You know the difference between a fairy tale and a sailor story? A fairy tail begins "once upon a time" and a sailor story begins " no sh!t"
@@joshuabessire9169And in the 80ties pixies and mermaids wearing shiny Adidas nylon shorts😂
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@@markuskruger2102 : And they still will for decades to come, you'll never produce enough of anything else to fit them all out especially when everyone else is back to wearing loin cloths.
'Don't pay the ferry man' as a well known singer once said!.
This is on a small scale what is currently going on in Germany. A whole nation abolishes itself.
A bunch of elits trying to centralise as much power and money as possible
Revenge of the Jews?
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entire EU commited suicide for zelenskyy and biden
in the whole of the EU, with them lobbies pushing Von der Lying and her accomplices.
The electric ferry did everything it was supposed to do it lined the pocket of bereucats
* bureaucrats
@@buellb0y School teachers can't let anything pass, it's like a superiority complex or some other personality outlier...
Bingo, give the man his prize.
@garco4620 bear cats need
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This is actually what is happening. CCS is on capturing politicians, and only storing and sequestering taxpayers money in the dividends of private shareholders.
To the buyer of the old ferry. WELL DONE!
Pity the SNP didn't, the 2 they are building are 8 years late and £ 500,000,000 over budget.
The guy probably cared about the original ferry and didn't want to see it go for scrap, maybe a floating museum instead, so he bought it. Well he was right and thankful agreeable. I definitely be putting in a clause though, if they tried to get rid of it again, first dips at a reasonable price. It's story is only growing lol
So he bought it for 17,000 Euros and sold it back for 100,000 Euros. Nice investment with a 588% return (100,000 / 17,000 = 5.88 x 100 = 588%)!!!!!!!
Before we all celebrate him: are we certain he isn't part of the Green Grift, and knew in advance the replacement ferry just wouldn't cut it?
@@hgu123454321 Regardless of his motives he was smart enough to cash in on government incompetence.
The SNP spent £ 3.56M on a government house in Elgin to make it Energy efficient. The Building is valued at around £300K. Estimated to take over a 1000 ( one thousand ) Years to reach pay back.
And what about the SNP failed ferry debacle. They poured vast amounts of taxpayers money into the latest concept of ferry. It's still moored alongside, incomplete & pointless. Even the windows of the bridge have only been painted on.
Nothing wrong with that. Will pay for itself when Buck Rodgers arrives on earth.
Idiots involved in this scam should be held accountable for the financial losses.
sigh, if only
They never are.
Instead, expect them to be nominated for a Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences in the near future.
Who's going to hold them accountable, the people?
Elon musk was not consulted I imagen.
Years ago I was a motorcycle police officer and myself and another motor officer were sent to a park here in Tucson Arizona USA to attend the ribbon cutting for the city's first electric bus. We went there and witnessed all the really smart city officials tout the use of the electric bus. We waited through all the back patting and it finally came time to take a drive. All the smart people got on and off we went! Myself and the other officer were following behind and had a problem keeping pace with this bus since it was going all of 4 (FOUR) miles an hour. I pulled next to the driver and asked when he was going to get going and he looked at me disgustedly and said this is as fast as it goes. I had to tell him that there were numerous cars backed up behind him and it was a 45 MPH speed zone. He just shook his head. My partner and I decided to leave. The bus was parked at the city bus lot forever. Smart people and taxpayers money.
Similar story in New York state, where they thought electric snow plows were are good idea. Lovely people, these politicians!
Can you give a date when this occurred or a news link so I can check veracity. In terms of horsepower per unit weight electric motors have many times more 'oomph' than you can get from a combustion engine. That why the largest motor power plants on the planet (in boats and trains) are electric - so its a bit weird and sounds bogus that they fitted such a small horsepower motor into that bus. There would be no reason. A bus typically has 300hp engine - which is way less than in my Tesla and which I can lift out by hand. You can now get 400hp motors that fits within a wheel hub and slip into a carrybag.
@@bbbf09 Those largest motor power plants on the planet (boats and trains) are not powered by batteries. They normally have diesel generators or are connected to the electric grid, neither sources are affected by the ambient temperature being too hot or too cold.
@@bbbf09what is powering that electric motor?
@@jdilksjroops I missed your comment before I made mine
How does that saying go again?... 🤔
Oh yeah,.. *_If it's not broken, don't fix it!_* 🤪
Northern Europe is well-known for its year-round bright sunshine. Ideal for solar ferry really.
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I have a solar panel on my pickup, it will start producing power again next April.
Yes - just look at the house roofs of people who are literally saving the planet in sunny UK
And not a flake of snow falls in Schleswig-Holstein.
I'm hearin' ya !!! 😂😂😂
The incompetence of the green cultists knows no bounds
If you think they are incompetent, you don't know what they are trying to do.
The misguided foot soldiers might care about the environment but the people at the top made their billions selling oil and to them it's about control and nothing more.
@@johnwade1095 I KNOW what they're trying to do, they suck at that too.
@@johnwade1095 Actually, people like the Two Tier Twat are extremely competent. That is, extremely competent at taking away our freedom and destroying the country very very quickly.
@@johnwade1095Almost universally stupid and misguided ....
The hubris of our age is unfathomable! Common sense would require that the old diesel ferry be maintained in service until such time as the new and unproven craft had proven its capacity to reliably perform the task. Even then it could be valuable to retain as backup.
But you see, the point of all the climate hysteria isn't to provide actual practical solutions... it's just an excuse for politicians to gain more money and power.
Mun: Nah, these ppl don't got 'common sense' 😅😅😅
That would be an admission that they hadn't thought the plan through (at best).
As a boatman in the UK in an area known for its winds and tides, the first thing which stood out when I looked at the photo of this new ferry was how much windage will be on them panels! Absolute madness, which is all I ever see when net zero is mentioned. ⚓️🦈
It seems as though if the ferry lists in a strong side wind it will present _more_ surface area to the wind. That can't be ideal. Waiting for some green genius to come to the conclusion the roof needs some wind turbines as well 😂
@@ferrumignisI’ve just found her on ships AIS and she’s currently moored in a harbour and has been for a few days so she’s not been working.. there’s a few photos of her and it looks like there’s plenty of air draft but very little draft in the water which means she’s not going to have much grip..
being that she’s a chain ferry, extra forces will be applied! I’ve just had a Quick Look at the weather in that area and the wind is ripping down the river so it would be directly on her beam.. I’m guessing she will be then pushed up or down stream making her cables go in a big arc.
What’s also worth noting is that every time she has to be moved to another location, then a diesel powered tug will need to be used.. there’s actually a photo of her underway being pushed by a tug 😂⚓️🦈
At this point it's a cult. Cults aren't known for their wisdom.
The best thing to do is to fix the solar panels to a mast and use them as a sail ...😂😂👍👍
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Hey Geoff, as someone working in the electric design for an electrical utility company in England I can tell you the following.
We have a customer [contractor building company] who has bought a house on a housing estate and is going to knock it down and build 6 new houses on the same plot of land.
And they need to pay us to install the new electrical supplies into their new houses.
The housing estate was built in the 1964 and the substation on site feeds 109 houses.
Each house was originally allocated 2.5KVA of load [total of 272KVA] so the substation that was installed is designed to supply a 300KVA load.
The new 6 new houses they want to build will have EV charging and ground source heat pumps for their heating.
That means each new house will require a 23KVA load each, [so that is an additional load of 138KVA that will be required to be feed off of this old existing substation]
We have priced up to lay a dedicated new LV mains cable from these 6 houses all the way back to the existing substation and the cost is about £48,000.
But the problems is that this new additional load for these 6 new houses alone will require half as much power again as to what the existing substation is already supplying.
We now have to go to the existing substation and fit bespoke monitoring equipment so to get a real time accurate record of the power that this substation is actually supplying and assess if it can cope with the extra load. [and we expect that it cannot ]
This means that in order to give the extra power required we will need to rip the old substation out and replace it with a new upgraded one.
This will push the costs up to between £130,000 and £150,000 depending on the other extra works that will be required further down the road.
[all this to give electric power to 6 new houses]
Can you imagine what it would cost if every house on this estate applied to have an upgrade to allow an EV charger at home.
@@robg521 They stupidly assumed the in situ arrangement would be more than adequate for their needs.
How on Earth did this six property development with E.V. charging get planning permission. 🤷🏻♂️
And we wonder why it costs so much to do anything in this country!!!
As an electrical engineer myself I've been saying this for ages. I have a 60amp fuse on my property but the local system was designed for about 10amps continuous per household.
Yet the smallest fixed EV charging point is 7.5KVA or 30 amps. I do have a 30 amp ring for my cooker but that doesn't use a 30amp load continuously, unlike an EV battery charger. If you want to charge a 75KW battery from flat on a 7.5KVA charger it's going to take a minimum of 10 hours at 30 amps.
It's never going to happen without massive investment in the generating capacity, grid and local distribution network, none of which is happening on anything like the required scale, if at all.
Next step will be energy rationing. Smart meter, anybody?
@@bruceknights8330 Did they not already legislate that all new domestic EV chargers have to have their own smart meter? Certainly the ultimate intention is that EV charging can be turned off or priced prohibitively if the capacity isn't there (wind not blowing) or indeed use the EV batteries as grid backup. Of course this means they are not of any serious use if you can get up for work in the morning and find your EV hasn't charged overnight or indeed has been drained.
@@bruceknights8330 my electric supplier is trying to push me to having a smart meter installed, which I am resisting hard.
They tell me that my current meter is out of warranty and no longer supported and that no one makes non-smart meters anymore. I have no clue if that is true or not.
Some town in New England decided to go green and installed LED traffic lights. Then winter arrived and turned them into hanging blocks of ice, because the old lights used the heat of the bulbs to prevent freezing. So the town installed electric heaters on the LED lights, and quadrupled the electric energy usage.
Also happened in America.
I think we should install a solar panel hat on every member of the green party around the world! 😅
It might help their brains 😂
You would think that this would actually benefit society for once, right?
They probably already have a tin foil hat and a lifetime membership to the Flat Earth Society.
The brain relying on electrical charge to work. That's a great idea 😂🤡🌎🇬🇧
Preferably fixed with a six inch nail to stop it blowing off.😂😂
The guy that bought the old ferry
WHAT A LAD!!!!
Solar ferry in a nordic region? Bwahahaha🤣🤣🤣
Tragic story but for Christ sake it's absolutely hilarious!
The buyer of the "old" unloved diesel is my new hero. LOL 🙂
Question...... where does my saviour fit in to to your comment . ? Jesus christ . Why is it for his sake . ?????
@@kenh3344 Your precious Middle East has got more important things to fret over right now!
@@kenh3344well , he was the one who threw out the bankers from the synagoge , back in the day.😁
@@kenh3344 Relax, have a drink, take your shoes off.............find a goat.
@@dancarter482yes they have . And do you know . Israel will never Be defeated . They will always win. As God is with them .
Simply ridiculous. I say this as a German (not living in Schleswig-Holstein). What a waste of money.
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But killing people with your ICE piece of garbage is OK?
I worked in a building that had about 10 fire doors. They were held open by electromagnets, so the fire system could close then by cutting power to the magnets. We got an email that (name of person) had come up with a great way to save power. The magnets would be powered off from 6 pm to 6 am.
The hydraulic damper in one of the door closers had failed. Every night at 6, this one heavy fire door would slam shut, rattling that whole section of the building. After a week of that, I decided to report it as a safety concern.
I also got curious about how much power we were saving. So I looked up the power draw, times number of doors, times 12 hours/day, times 365, times power rate. It came out to about $100/year. In my email, I also suggested that a single injury caused by a closing door would likely cost more than all the savings they could ever achieve.
Shortly after, the doors stopped closing at 6. There was no email praising me for my valuable safety suggestion.
Whoever approved that purchase needs to be held accountable for negligence.
Libs always take credit for anything that goes well and always blame others for anything that does not. That's universal.
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No, they need to be fired, as well as the person who put them in charge. F "accountability ".
Held accountable for sheer stupidity.
Their brother in law is the builder of the electric boat, I bet. There's almost always some blatant corruption behind these stories.
there's a chap called Marshall Julius who gave me this quote from Groucho Marx which perfectly surmises this who fiasco
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies."
Incredibly accurate summary!
Groucho was Threatened by Jack Warner...over " A night in Casablanca "..His Letter is Priceless Insult over the Small Matter..Look it up..
Green is not everyone’s favourite colour
Come to New South Wales Australia, our Government bought new electric trains, insufficient power to handle some inclines that they were designed for. Next round bought new carriages, too wide to clear the platforms so the tracks have to be re-laid to clear the platforms. New trams, structurally unsound and needed major repairs. New motorway, increased travel times up to 1/2 an hour. Local council rebuilt a road, 3 months later pulled and rebuilt. Some bridge repairs and the foreman was overheard by a local castigating the workmen for finishing ahead of time.
I am sure that you have all been there.
Sometimes you've got to wonder if all these "mishaps" are done on purpose so someone gets paid more money for ongoing fixes and someone else gets more kickbacks. They just can't be that stupid at everything. Can they?
@@trechernga1299 A thought quickly dismissed. They are that stupid.
@trechernga1299 they are in South africa atleast. It's been proven that sort of thing happens there. They even purposefully break stuff so they can get paid to fix it, or profit off of those getting paid to fix it.
Plenty of EV caused fires in Florida at the moment, as it happens salt water is quite the conductor..,..
Then surely all the energy we need is in the sea😄.
Hilarious
The future ,well if you are a bit dim it might seem that way 😂😂😂
@@ibrstellar1080 : You might well have thought so but remember what sort of people you're dealing with!
@JulianCooke-yn5lh it would be, if it were not the incredible pollution.
Its not the electrification As such to blame, its the poor design to blame. We have electric converted car ferries in Sweden, but they are connected to the grid. The electric cable is simply winded in and out on anlarge spool. Would have been a much better solution, like that, and then maybe putting the solar panels on shore instead. Why simple when you can make it complicated. 😊
Here in Germany there is a legend about the citizens of a place called Schilda. In Schilda the citizens had a new council hall built. After it was completed the brave citizens of Schilda noticed that the windows had been forgotten and that it was pitch black in their hall. But because the citizens of Schilda were clever people and believed in the powers of nature, a particularly clever person suggested carrying daylight into the hall in buckets and pouring it out there. This suggestion was immediately implemented and the citizens of Schilda carried the sunlight into the hall in their buckets with great enthusiasm... and they still do it today because it just wouldn't get any brighter. Schilda is the greatest role model for the red-green bourgeoisie in Berlin. Now the whole world is laughing at Germany. The eco-green Salvation Army has thoroughly earned it.
As a German citizen myself I was reminded of this same fairy tale. And that book had a lot more stupid samples of their "pranks".
I know know why Germany has those big liquor stores everywere and packed with customers filling their carts with booze.
Numming the nervs / getting waisted is the only way to deal with the stupidity of German red tape / activistic burocrats.
It’s a shame. So many Germans are descendants of fearless men… yet that trate was not passed on
This reads as a post apocalyptic story we tell our children about the dangers of the SUN WORSHIPERS. Ie the Solar Climate Cult.
No srsly they brought back peganism. Look how we must sacrifice cattle to Mother Nature too
In Germany, the entire country worshipped a guy named Hitler. What does that say about Germany?
With a quarter of the ferry money they could have built a bridge. End of problems. Too logic for a stupid politician, uh?
True but the getting the approval thru red tape and environazis would take 10 years.
A floating bridge can still have a segment swing out for boats too.
That would pose many issues, as Geoff said it is in a nature preserve and even adding something simple as a pole for the guiding cable has to go through a ton bureaucracy.
@@Momoka7True. Oddly enough, it's bureaucrats that made this mess. Not necessarily the same office.
Either way, it seems one office doesn't recognise the other. 🤣
I love it. 😂
Bureaucrats & politicians are hilarious. 😂
Buyer must be related to someone in this council. Clever man,would do the same🤣👏
Surely fitting bow-thrusters will mean having to fit additional "solar" panels to recharge the extra batteries required. Bow-thrusters use a hellish amount of power. Luckily they will be able to recharge these batteries at night from the upcoming Betelgeuse supernova we have been promised sometime in the next 500,000 years. 🤣🤣🤣
Class 👌
Any semi-competent engineer will tell you that sticking solar panels on the roof of that thing won't generate enough power to run even just its hydraulic pump. On a sunny day you'll get 10-20kW MAX. 50 if it's the size of the ones they run across the channel. Pretty sure ships' main engines produce power of the order of MEGAwatts to run the screws & thrusters.
This is why politics has no place in industry of any kind. These people have no concept of reality.
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I don't see the problem. Simply fit a diesel engine to power the bow-thrusters and....... ah yes, just realised!
you mean it's not a chain-ferry?
Thank you Geoff. You always give me a laugh. Love your collection of diecasts behind you. I have quite a few myself. Yo the man..
The problem with politicians etc is its not coming out of their pockets so they don't care what it costs as long as they can tick that little box and pat each other on the back 🙄
Don't forget the kick backs from their CHUM's in the industries.
It doesn’t come out of their pockets but it sure as hell goes in
EVil “solution” to an alleged problem that didn’t need solving.
That's the basis of the entire net zero agenda
Don't deny that fossil fuels cause problems just because EV also have problems.
Oh the problem is real alright, but this isn't the solution. We're already in too deep even for the real solution (ironically also all but killed by the envirocult 50 years ago), so we're stuck dealing with the consequences. Yet instead of planning how to address those (like grown-ass adults with an ounce of wisdom) we've let this cult own the narrative and waste precious resource trying to "prevent" what's already happened.
@@skunkjobb : The Net zero agenda is not even based on reality, it was an idea put forward by the UN to speed up the WEF push towards global control. If you do not know the huge amount of carbon emissions caused by production and attempted recycling of Net Zero products you should research it. One day, when we are back to shovelling horse shit from our roads and you have no mobile phones, computers, medicines etc you might just, and I only say might, wake up to reality.
@@skunkjobbin this case the diesel ferry didn’t have any serious problems, and didn’t need to be replaced. It’s all politics.
You know what does have zero emissions? A bridge.
When you are talking millions of euros for your green solution and fixes for your mistake, maybe doing it right the first time with a bridge would’ve been the better choice.
With this level of incompetance I assumed it must be the UK - who knew?
The snp have done exactly the same thing.and there still not at sea.
Dont think so , BUT could have took a few pointers from the highly Scottish SNP goverments ferry department
@@charleslouden6600- *they're. The contraction of they are. It's really not difficult.
I expect the Uk will buy the damn thing for 5 million euros and then park it somewhere green and eco.
This did happen in the country which shut down all its nuclear power stations immediately in the wake of Fukushima - presumably because of the ever-present risk of tsunamis in Bavaria.
The EU has wasted more money on energy saving measures that did nothing and ended up costing the people more money.
Oh, that's of no import. They just can raise taxes to pay for it. EasyPeasy.
Everyone who can read data, knows that, yes, the climate does change, but that we are far from able to control it. But, when you politicizeit, you know someone is going to waste money.
Thats the point, waste our money while making friends rich.
This is why governments are absolutely dogshit at “investing money”. So anytime politicians talk about “investing your taxpayer dollars” don’t be fooled again, it usually means “lining our pockets with the shell companies receiving your taxpayer money”
Yeah but it sure made their overindulgent peons feel special about themselves. Blown out dopamine receptors from nonstop mindless fads and they’re now below the level of functioning of a hardcore heroin addict. They can barely do anything anymore but rot and take everyone with them.
2:35 You ain't getting many cars on that ferry....
The ferry at Missunde is a cable ferry. meaning that it is connected to either shore through a cable... Why not add an electric cable reel and the ferry will have all the power it needs directly from the grid, with no need for expensive and resource demanding batteries and solar cells that wear out. This could have been re fitted to the old Missunde II ferry, it could have kept its diesel engine in case of a power outage and used a grid connected electrical motor for daily operation.
That makes a lot of sense, which is why it wasn’t done
Wait, it IS a cable ferry? This whole thing makes zero sense then.
you need to make everything ten times more complicated than it needs to be and make other people rich and then you will looked up to and admired
What happens in a storm or when another ships breaks the electric cable?
It gets into the water. That's not good.
This story has made my day after making complaints to the TV licence fascists & asking the current prime minister why I have not received feedback about my complaint against him & all authorities central & locals criminal acts.
You'll have a very long wait.
@@marylauder3374yes a very very long wait
Nice to see we all have such faith in our gov.
As a boat Captain of 40 years I find your reporting outstanding!
If it was not so sad and waste of taxpayers money.
I could smugly sit back and laugh at Net Zero.
The first hail storm will wipe out all those panels
All it takes is someone eating popcorn, and a flock of hungry seagulls pooping all over it
@@mtlicq A storm wind will raise that thing up by it's wing and deposit it on shore somewhere.
Hailstorm?! In that area? Nonsense!
And now we look at what we do not get there... Germany is not known for extreme weather situations
Ask that solar far in Texas. Lol
I think it was in England or Canada or some other country🤣 where the police Department decided to buy an Electric squad car. An electric car where they work 24 hours a day. Well the EV ended up dying with no way to charge it somewhere in the city😉 SMART PEOPLE leading us folks
Seems like something similar happened in the US. They had the charging infrastructure but it took too long charging for the dynamic environment of police work. I think the EV got demoted to public safety events and other less taxing duties.
@@deepsleep7822 Sounds like something my country would do
I used to certify ship electrical systems and though I never certified systems aboard an electric ferry I know that DNV have done and several of those battery powered vessels went up in flames in their first year of operation due to battery thermal runaway. Big batteries equals big problems.
I was assuming it was batteryless to avoid these problems and the environmental hazards they bring, and only runs on bright sunny days.
Thank you for that story. Why can't the engineers who are so committed to these electric vehicles calculate basic factors other engineers would know when they design vehicles to make them functional????
Yes, right. here is the calculation they used. Good for the environment + makes us look good = done deal!
Most likely either
A) The thing went to the lowest bidder (Aka son of a cousin of a friend of the mayor) who had no real experience and simply used a diesel ferry plan with tack on parts
B) The politicians went first to a proper source, saw the costs and then did a variation of A)
C) Someone bought "cheap and generic" instead of looking at the real situation
Because they know it's a scam. Every person who works for/is contracted by government figures out it's all grift, and any honest person leaves after that.
It's simple. The engineers told the politicians "this won't bloody work, mate" and the politicians said "too bad we're doing it anyways because it makes us look good".
Those engineers are solar-powered and they were making their calculations during winter. 😅
And this is why I don't pay attention to the green crowd. It's not that I am a denyer. It's that they don't have any solutions that work!
"Horses for courses"... Different fuels are suited to different applications.
Electricity for bikes, petrol for cars, diesel for commercial vehicles.
Totally agree with this.. Electric is not one fits all. 🤔
Electricity for stationary uses, fossil fuel for transport.
@@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391 or Trams and Trains.
Jet fuel for jets and rocket fuel for rockets.
I hope you mean pushbikes, not motorbikes!!!
Why’d you not build a Bridge; many are still in operation centuries later and are zero emissions.
There may be a rare-ish newt living near the stone quarry that would provide bridge-building materials. Newts come before people.
Politcians don't have the brainpower to work that one out.
Will need a fast track through the layers of green bureaucracy, helped by some brown envelopes under the table.
Costs, i guess, particularly if you keep in mind that ships have to pass under it.
imagine all the forms and consultants to do analysis on putting up a bridge, then you have all the fees to pay government officials to sign said forms and the particular robin who lives and traverses the particular route where the bridge will go. NIMBYism will be at volume to make a 747 taking off blush.
Notice also, the old ferry carried 6 or 8, can't really tell for sure, vehicles......the new one only two per crossing??? Seems a bit less efficient.
I believe there are similar issues with the Scottish car ferry suppliers, and ongoing issues with the chain link ferry on the Isle of Wight.
Nice way to restrict movement ..
The electric ferries in Scotland are far slower than the diesel ones they replaced but no doubt the "savings" claimed aren't compared to the diesels at the same speed, and of course the service isn't equivalent.
@@NiallWardrop But their are no electric ferries in Scotland!
@@roadie4360 There are several of the small double ended ones. Not sure where they are using them now but Tarbert - Portavadie had one in recent years.
I believe that the chain ferry on the IOW is diesel powered, the problem is with the hull design not with its propulsion.
Something similar happened closer to home. They sold the old cargo ferry for the Scillies bought a new one which was unable to support the vitally necessary crane so guess what the old ferry is now back in service. Brilliant work by Sciles Steamship Co....
I love a good Ferry Tail with an ironic punchline.
6:38 from the picture, how could it carry cars when there are tables across the full deck?
Picture from the opening, so politicians can rest their a.. during the maiden voyage.
@wolfmusic01 makes so much sense I missed it! Lol
No room for cars. You walk to and from the ferry making it "greener" yet. Bureaucratic idiots... yet they are almost certainly still in charge.
Check out Scotland's electric ferry problems. After Nichola Sturgeon invested millions, it can only work on the back-up diesels, not the batteries.
yes, the *hybrid* ship was launched in 2012 and worked for 10 years - now awaiting battery replacement
Why do UK have all this problems with electric ferries? In Norway we past 73 electric ferries in Jun 2023, and they are all just so much better then the outdated ones.
Is this caused by the corruption in UK, you think?.
@@kimantonsen5595 the 'electric' ferry he's referring to is a hybrid and is waiting for a scheduled battery replacement after over 10 years in service
@@kimantonsen5595 I think it was suggested that ferries were bought from Norway as they have a good track record, would have cost less and been in service sooner but that made too much sense for the SNP, they preferred to give the contract to a Scottish shipyard to supposedly save it from going under, turned out its order book was actually full and no extra capacity, I think its now about 4 years late is way over budget, the dual fuel system doesn't work and it's still not in service and I don't think the second one ordered at the same time has even been started. Stupidity knows no bounds where the Scottish government is concerned!
Hahaha🤣🤣🤣 Priceless. 😂
Just Stop Oil had loose again. 😆
That's nothing. You should look up Cowes floating bridge ferry. Millions of taxpayers money spent. On off ramps weren't suitable when put into service and is broke down more than in use. Proper joke here on the Isle of Wight.
I know it really is a joke locally. At least the Sandbanks ferry is still operational!
And its a diesel ferry!
As far as I know, the old Cowes ferry languishes nowadays alongside the Gosport ferry, slowly rotting away.
The dude that purchased the old ferry for $17K and sold it back for $100K is a genius. He likely understood how it would play out and made an effortless $83K profit.
Has this ferry ever operational in the last 10 years`?
I passed through there like 3 times in the last 10 years and it never was operational. If this ferry connection is not working you have to make a huge detour. Bad when the next bridge is also closed.
Germany like usual.
Read about the Scottish Ferry fiasco, utter disaster that has cost the thick end of £500 million on an original budget of£97million, 9 years to build and supply two ferries for CalMac to service Island routes and they still haven't got one in operation, the Scottish Government paid over £600,000 on a feasibility study as to whether they should continue with the second ferry hull, the study reported back that it would be cheaper to scrap the hull and go to a shipbuilder in say Korea, as the Isle of Man did, and get them to build a new ferry, the Scottish Government of course has done the sensible thing and decided to ignore the study findings and keep pouring more money down the ferry black hole.
And none of them are electric ferries!
At over five times the original estimate and climbing they represent good value for money, for those getting it!!.
@@roadie4360 Those two are diesel / LNG. Except they haven't even started to put in the LNG infrastructure...
They already have some much smaller electric ones.
@@NiallWardrop Whoever decided on the dual fuel was an utter moron but that was just one of many mistakes to put it mildly, Sturgeon at one point before her fall admitted that the SNP were effectively running a job retention scheme rather than trying to get ships built, not only that but they don't know how or where something like £160 million was even spent.
@@RushfanUK Have you seen the shell plating on those things? They look like old ships ready for scrap.
"Geoff Buy Diesel Ferries" might be a new profitable venture. You're welcome. 😂😂😂
What’s the bets bets that the buyer of the diesel ferry worked for the council?
I got a job advert sent me today. Oil company ENI is looking for a manufacturing plant manager for it's agri oils plants in: Mozambique. So this looks like ENI have persuaded an impoverished African Nation into grow Oil and not FOOD. Next time you hear of a famine in an African nation we have to ask ourselves how much of the land is being used for Bio Fuels to help Greta's Sailing team over to the USA the next time she wants to sail the king of Monaco's ( he of the Monaco F1 fame) sailing yacht.
And how will they transport it half way round the world?
@@altvamp Tanker as they do with Brent Crude.
@@altvamp By ship, like they do do for that green powerstation in the UK, they were forced to stop using locally mined coal so now have to rely on massive ships going back and forth to Canada to get the wood that now powers it..millions of tonnes of it each year. so green.
@@JackOfski yes indeed and Canada's miners get paid more the our guys ever did!
@@JackOfskiwhat is name of power station.
"The Little Ferry That Couldn't" _ "I think I can, I think I can, I think I can... Oh, bollocks..."
😂😂😂😂
Saw this story last week, you could not make it up. Needs to be on the national news to illustrate how useless evs are but of course it won't be. Thanks to people like you Geoff the word is getting through.
Whoever bought the old one and stored it was one sharp cookie!
Sold the old clunker for a song, then bought it back (in need of repair) for six times the price - this is the most hilarious story I've heard in ages, thank you so much for sharing it! 10/10 for the old ferry's temporary owner - best investment! 😅😂🤣
Considering how short it is...they could just use a nice big extension cord instead of solar and batteries...minimal weight, no "sail"...geeze.
wait, it was sold for 17k and they bought it back for 100k?
these officials are really bad at this aren't they?
of course the guy that bought it came out the winner didn't he? good for him 👍
Just wonder if the buyer wasn't one of the officials.
No worries it's not their money is it?
Before they bought it back they had to pay a monthly fee and of course it needed "a liitle" repair. Add that to the bill
Some people arent good with money. A few years ago (at the company, i was working for, at the time) they sold one of their old, 18ton, trucks.
A truck that age, that size, is about 20.000€. So i asked them, how much they wanted? After many back and forth and only getting answers like "Oh that will cost cou a lot!" or "We want good money for it" They finally said "2000€ at least!" I looked at them and said "Wait two minutes, i go to the bank and be right back."
@@thomasnieswandt8805a friend of mine bought an old royal mail box truck for £1500 a few years ago. It paid for itself in a few months.
I am willing to wager that not one of those involved with this hare-brained project has ever been sacked, prosecuted or ostracised over the whole costly, tome-wasting and ridiculous debacle.
They could have built a ruddy bridge with all the money wasted and kept the old ferry running until completed.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Are you kidding? They likely got a nice campaign donations from the seller of the new ferry and person that bought the old one and sold it back. It wouldn't surprise me if they were both family members.
@@barongerhardtWe're not in the USA, your toxic political culture is irrelevant here.
@@TRexo-ds5ze A literal story about political incompetence and malfeasance, but not the USA so at least is isn't the singular "toxic political culture" in the world. Wait, are you related to them? How much was your commission on that sale?
Take away, Electric Ferrys are shockingly gay.
Almost every ship above a certain tonnage uses electric propulsion. It's infinitely more efficient to run copper cables and angry up the pixies in bow thrusters, pod thrusters and even in a lot of cases main screws than it would be to run hydraulic lines or mechanical driveshafts.
These ships have city sized diesel engines or nuclear reactors to angry up said pixies but the point is electric motors are great but they need to be used correctly.
@@ivanf4023 tell me you're an electric ferry, without telling me you're an electric ferry much? pixies boy 😂
Perhaps they should have mounted those solar panels on a vertical pole, which they could have called a "mast", and rotated them so that the wind pushed the boat along the cables.
The solar panels need an appropriate angle to be efficient. Using them as a sail is a bad idea even if that's what was going to happen. The most appropriate solution would likely have been to modify the ferry system to mount the motors to the building and use the guide cables instead to pull the ferry across. It still would have taken a considerable retrofit though, so they'd be in the same position but the ferry would still be much lighter, potentially being able to carry more cars.
@@supernova743 Actually, they are going to vertically mounted panels now because they are more efficient. |||||| is better than --------. Counter-intuitive.
hahaha - great idea
@@NVArt001Vertical bifacial panels only produce more energy in a specific condition (snow).
They produce more even power (morning and evening) when in a north/south orientation. They would produce almost no energy in an east/west orientation or when the sun is high overhead.
You can't help stupid. That is hilarious.
Wow. I'm actually glad I clicked on this one. Gave me a good laugh, especially at the $100k sell back price. Fantastic!
The stupidity of going “green” is never ending.
It wasn't stupidity; it was a chance for grift which the councilmembers could not pass up. They probably got kickbacks from the electric ferry builder.
@@angrydachshund The kickbacks exist in much other sinister forms. How many committees and deskjobs have been created to maintain, upgrade and bring ferry3 into service. There will be a whole nuther group of jobs and contracts let to bring the terminals up to task for the heavier boat and all these jobs will go to companies in the enviro MENTAL community. By the time the boat it is brought up to task it will probably draft to deep for the crossing and it will need to be dredged. Perhaps the eco people will in an attempt to have equality of outcomes will have a direct drive windmill installed on a mast. The more the wind blows the more drive for the propellor minus mechanical losses. Remember always that with all liberal groups the practicality, thinking through, and actual results matter NOT. It is only that they intended well and tried really, really hard.
@@mikecrooks8085 Aye. Also known as, jobs for women.
I mean there's nothing wrong with "Going Green" if you actually work out the math first and see if your plan makes sense. Problem is governments "Go Green" mostly to give kickbacks to their donors and never bother to look and see if its a good idea to do so.
If they actualy wanted an electric ferry it wouldnt be hard for this distance. Dont mount the solar panels on the ship. Mount them on each bank charging up a set of batteries. Put just enough battery power on the ship to handle a couple of round trips and just plug it in at each dock while waiting for passengers to get on/off. Also size the thrusters for the craft, poor planning there.
Someone probably got a masisve commission selling a self contained system even though it was not fit for the desired use. I mean heck they could skip the solar altogeather and just relly on grid power.
@@merendell Of course there's a problem with "going green", it *cannot be done.* Solar panels are limited from all angles, windmills produce crap amounts compared with the cost and "carbon footprint" of building them, materials used and their production demands more eco-destruction than what you'd be preventing, etc. It's a scam that's been tried and ruined a couple Countries already.
They’re having one in Liverpool soon….’Ferry….stuck in de Mersey.’
Why do they need to ferry the solar panels back and forth on every trip. They should have placed them on the shore and charged the ferry batteries upon docking. That would have solved the wind problem as well.
The ferry purchaser knew they were going to fail. Brilliant!
The king has no clothes!😂😅😊
Why couldn't they have a power cable to power the dang boat? Isn't there already a steel truss that the boat follows? This is so dumb it's unreal.
This is just brilliant 😂😂😂😂Looks like the King Harry ferry across the Fal at Trelissick… I hope Carrick council aren’t considering anything like this😮
I was driving past Playing Place many years ago and burst into laughter as some miscreant had slightly altered the letters on the road sign to read "King Hairy Fanny" 😂
@@ferrumignis excellent, missed that one!
A couple of years ago. The station name of Gare de Bourg Saint Maurice, Eurostar’s terminal for winter ski trains had its letters rearranged one night to read "Gare suce ma bite » I’ll let you work out for yourself what that means in English. Needless to say SNCF were NOT amused….
With these politicians, parties and paper-pushers, we are lost. Greetings from a German.
Why wouldn't you just spend 3.3 million on a bridge or tunnel?...
Brilliant !! Environmentalists do struggle when faced with reality
Reality - the inconvenient truth.
The SNP & Greens in Scotland probably advised the Germans on ferry purchasing. 😄
Just came back from Norway, the whole country is tied together by tunnels and ferries crossing the fjords and sea. At least half of the ferries were electric, and they worked flawlessly 😬
I drove my car to a boat party in Denmark.
It was a Fjord Fiesta
That's so bad it's good 😂
I appreciate the feedback 🤣
Fjord Fjesta
don't give up the day job 😂😂
@@awhisperinthewind4253 I know some paper jokes.
They're all tearable.
I used to work at an Energy Department facility. They had a project that involved recycling nuclear fuels and had a very large processing system. When the system, made mostly of various exotic stainless steel varieties was nearly finished, the government decided to cut the budget. The project was cancelled and the pipes and valves, tanks and vessels, were all torn out and sold to a scrap metals dealer. Then someone realized that the processing system was classified "Secret" and the scrap yard didn't have any kind of a clearance. So they had to quietly buy everything back from the scrapper for a lot more than he paid and cut it all up very small. Then they sold it back to him for a lot less than they had paid him to get it back. He made better than double what he would have gotten for it on the first transaction, and the government cut it up and sorted it for him.
So it’s not that the Ferry is bad, its bureaucracy.
Theres an Old Saying "IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT!" 🤣🤣🤣
Just put in a new AA Battery.
Politicians have their own version of that saying "If it ain't broke, fix it until it is!"
@@Ambivadox 🤣🤣🤣
Say it out loud everyone.
GO WOKE GO BROKE!!
say it loud
Say it loud ELECTRIC SUBMARINES!!!!!
A slogan. Cute.
But they didn't go broke. Everyone involved in this got paid and is still getting paid. They'll keep doing it.
My solar powered canoe worked flawlessly for years. A small panel charged the battery. I ran a 50 lb troller with a machete prop. Old school recyclable lead acid, $120 deep cycle. Top speed was around jogging speed. It ran silently, no smells, no gas to go buy and cheap as hell. I don't even need a trailer. The whole rig was around $300. Rechristened the "inspiring canoe", she hosted many good times. 3 friends and a cooler of beer.
Massive respect to the fella that saw exactly what was coming. 😂
Brilliant Geoff. Yet another one for the "You couldn't make it up, " ever growing file.
Environmental protection, build a friggen bridge and have done with it.
That would be the best and simpliest idea... as well as reducing cost in the long term.... but you forget the eco-mob have only one braincell between them lol
@@hudsonbear5038It is a Izan tactic to give easy passes to the stupendously dim and then issue said dimwits with decision making roles, to which they are then instructed to make idiotic decisions. Its one of history's lessons.
I work on Windermere ferry. I cannot even begin to tell you how relevant this is 🤐