BMW E36 M3 Timing chain / VANOS installation
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- Опубліковано 11 лис 2017
- #BMW #E36 #HansGarage
Tools I used for this project:
Electric Impact gun: amzn.to/2vq4ZTS
10-150lb Torque wrench: amzn.to/2UKUu6b
3/8 inch Socket set: amzn.to/2ElfB91
1/2 Inch Socket set: amzn.to/2QOFLI4
Wrench set: amzn.to/2PyCAiV
**The spring plate after the 2mm spacer on the intake side is placed wrongly. It should be flipped that is the spring dome should face out
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Great video but the VANOs spring plate needs flipped around. The outer shoulder should be resting against the 2 mm spacer and the inner should be resting against the 4mm spacer. (This is how mine came apart and backed up by the wear pattern on the parts)
Good call on this comment, I double checked and a few w/ a few others and confirmed outer ring should be sitting against the 2mm spacer.
Thanks Han, I'm learning a lot from you
Best E36 info video ive watched on UA-cam hands down 🙏
Many thanks. Watched your video and installed everything step by step with you.
Thank you very much for this video! Helped me figure out some of the small details that were holding me back from understanding the whole & proper assembly. If it wasn't for this video I would've assembled the intake side without the 2mm spacer... Could've been bad lol
Very useful and transparent. Thank you for help!
Génial. Et bravo. Très compressif
friend you helped a lot, it was the most complete video on this subject. Many thanks! 🇧🇷
Great informational video, you are a talented mechanic, keep the videos coming!
great video man. thanks!
Nice work my friend especially BMW and Mercedes 111
Super helpful video bro thanks so much🙏
Единственный нормальный видос по установке, спасибо бро
Great video on a complete VANOS rebuild. I will be putting a Dr. Vanos on soon. I won't have to go as deep as you did, right? Will it go on with the chain tensioners still in?
The spring plate after the 2mm spacer on the intake side is placed wrongly. It should be flipped that is the spring dome should face out
This is somehow not exactly correct. According to repair manual does not matter how to position the spring plate. More precisely the manual says nothing about spring plate orientation and that is why I think that does not matter the orientation. Lets take a look at mechanical point of view: the spring plate is positioned between similar stop disk with same mating surfaces with the spring. In both orientations the spring plate will perform the same job - to pull apart the stop disks. And in both orientations the spring plate holes do not interfere with the 3 sprocket bolts. But it is true that in double vanos system the similar spring plate on exhaust side is specifically marked with the letter F (for FRONT) on the dome face meaning that this is the right orientation to put it in. And perhaps the practice proved that. And a M3NACE video shows also, that dome is facing out when installing spring plate :)
Edit: only some manuals do not specify spring plate orientation. According to TIS manual "Install large support diameter facing towards camshaft.", so HAN did it wrong on this video, but the video is still great I'd like to say :)
@@dgenov If I were going to do this on my own E36 M3, aside from videos on UA-cam which manual would you recommend having with me in the garage?
@@realbadtech9318 /newtis.info/. I strongly recommend this website. It contains almost all official bmw repair manuals and wiring diagrams.
100% me too I see that
Muito bom seu video mesmo eu nao entendo a sua lingua deu pra entender a explicaçao xou.
Thanks for doing this video.
Broooo you really blesssed for this video
Thanks bro 🙏
Me gustó tu video kisiera verlo completo para armar mi bimer
안녕하세요
저는 S54엔진을 갖고 있지만 차분히 설명해 주셔서 많은 도움이 됩니다.
항상 응원하고 있으니 화이팅하세요.
Bryan Kim 아 별말씀을.. 제가 제일 같고싶은 엔진을 가지고 계시네요 ㅎㅎㅎ 감사합니다 화이팅!
Thanks for the video. Question @ 2.51 the main timing chain sprocket, do the cam holes need in the middle or left of elongated holes? Bentley manual is saying left (page 117-12) Thanks Han.
Nice
Красава 👍 я на русском не нашёл видео. Нашёл твоё видео хоть и слова не понял но все понятно снято респект
Seriously the rest of the guys on UA-cam need to take some lighting lessons from you and it was so clear how you said things.
Excelente buen video
Gracias mi amor
Nice video, im not looking forward to do this since i found out my headgasket was blown yesterday 🙁
me ajudou muito. foi o melhor vídeo explicando sobre montagem dos comandos. até mesmo sem entender totalmente seu idioma. deu pra compreendo a montagem perfeitamente. principalmente a filmagem da câmera ajudou muito.
Sim mano o cara me salvou kk peguemos uma bm p mexer e quando vi aquela pedacera de ruela e encosto e de se apavorar kkkkk
I don't understand lol
@@HansGarage Yes bro the guy saved me kk let's get a bmw to move and when I saw that mount of washer and backrest and to be scared kkkkk
@@HansGarage thank you so much
@@giovanistinghen4015 aqui na oficina, recebemos uma BMW e eu acabei pegando ela desmontada. aí eu fiquei de montar o cabeçote da BMW e vinha algumas dúvidas de como montar. o vídeo acabou me ajudando bastante hehe
excellent job my friend. very meticulous. good to see the motor coming along. I do like the tool you used to rotate the upper chain section, very clever. the only thing I would have to say is that the spring diaphragm plate was installed backwards, from what I can see. the center part should be bowed out toward the vanos unit. I am jealous of how clean that Vanos unit is. how did you get it so clean?
M3NACE nooooooooo! Are you sure??
from what it looks like. the bow is supposed to go towards the vanos unit. the spring plate looks like this ) when viewed from the side. so it is supposed to go: 2mm plate ) 4mm plate, you have it 2mm plate ( 4mm plate.
yea... Im seeing other vids saying that it should be the way you are telling me and also the way i already have.... I'll do more research before I put the engine in the car... Thanks man. And the vanos came like this when I bought it! i got lucky
hmm. interesting. well if thats the way it came and it worked like that, then it works i guess. Ive always known the plate to be bowed out. if it works it works!
Alright, I'm going to have to trust you on this one. I'm going to flip it and put it in. And I meant the clean vanos came like that clean when I bought the engine. I honestly dont remember how the diaphragm was sitting lol Thanks man
I thought the camshaft holes on the exhaust sprocket had to be biased to the left?
Excellent job Hans, would be possible any video in a close futrure about the M3 e46 vanos? that would be awesome!
eduki e46 m3 is my goal man! Hopefully soon!
HAN'S GARAGE thank you! And thanks for all these interesting videos and all the effort you put on them, best tutorials about our beloved BMWs by far
eduki thank you for such encouraging words
Hey Han great video just curious which timing chain kit u went with? I'm about to attempt this and need good quality parts
Mine was all oem
@@HansGarage I hear ya
Thanks, we didt
Order seems mixed up. Upper tensioner pin should be removed before tightening the exhaust torx screws.
Great video, I'm using it to reinstall my vanos. You have one mistake at 12:10 where you reversed the direction of the thrust/diaphragm spring. It should go the other way with the convex side facing away from the engine. I marked mine this way when I disassembled and other guides from Pelican Parts, Beisan Systems, as well as the BMW online parts catalog that show it's the correct direction. It's possibly it makes no difference, but wanted to let you know.
truth, as from what I have seen
I have problems with vanos it's always give me misfire but if I unblock the cable of vanos care is working fine please advise.. what's the problem
Hi Han..
Did you have any issues with the vanos after the engine was installed.. I followed your guide today and installed the vanaos intake spring washer as you have in the video.. I see alot of other guides saying it should be installed the opposite way. I have also seen some people say it doesn't matter what way it goes. Just wondering if you had any issues and do I need to remove the vanos and turn the spring plate around..
Actually I did install incorrectly and mentioned it in the description:)
@@HansGarage ah dam ha ha, wish I had of read the description first.. Ah well I will pop the vanos back off and flip it around.. I was hoping you would say its fine both ways ha ha
@@HansGarage swapped it round the correct way now..
I am building an m50b30 stroker, your timing guide helped alot. Thanks
Do you need and lower tensioner dummy when you do not lose the main chain if your only doinig the upper chain tensioner and upper chain gide and spring diaframe
I feel like you secretly own. A fortune model rx7 .
If i put the vanos with the pin lock in the tensioner is a problem?
DISCULPEN , PORQUE NO EXISTEN VIDEOS SOBRE LOS ARBOLES DE LEVAS Y SUS POSICIONES EN UN BMW 318 i , Y SI HAY POR FAVOR ENLACE .
Would these torque specs be the same for the other e36 engines? Like for the 323i 2.5l
I need help with a 2002 X5 3.0, has 285,639 miles on it...needs timing chain and cats are bad, after running and getting hot it shuts down, when you try to start it again it acts like it has no compression at all...would a bad catalytic converter cause that? You can come to North Carolina and help me, I have A/C in my garage, and a spare bedroom...lol
Are those 4XL gloves?!?!?
are the torque specs the same for M50 engines with single vanos?
On my 1996 e36 m52 When setting up the sprocket on the intake camshaft and I put all the plates on now what’s left is me tightening the 3 10mm bolts to 10nm. Once I do that and I’m gonna install the vamos when I try turning it with the sprocket tool it won’t move until I loosen the 3 bolts till it’s able to move. Any ideas for me on that? Thank you
for the main timing chain aren't the holes on the sprocket suppose to be aligned to the left not the center?
90awdtsi1 Yes you’re correct. Many DIY’s show lining up in the center then rotating clockwise afterwards. In the end it does matter how you put it on as long as BOTH sprockets have full movement. That’s the whole point which no DIY ever mentions. If you put 1 bolt in the exhaust side you would see this more clearly. You then move clockwise to the stops to install the vanos. Then as you draw the vanos is you’re supposed to rotate it all the way anti clockwise and not with the tool used in this video. The tool he used didn’t allow the vanos to go on straight, which is why he had issues catching the teeth.
When you put tension on the primary chain with the "dummy tensioner" it pulls the sprocket so the slots eventually end up being centered on the threaded holes.
Max B incorrect. You rotate the sprockets manual (with a specific tool). When you put tension on the chain the sprockets are not meant to move because they should already be at the stop on the intake cam.
@@thatflywelshguy9662 I'm talking for the primary timing chain to the exhaust camshaft sprocket. The bentley manual is somewhat confusing because when you mount that sprocket it says to line up the left of the slots with the mounting holes in the camshaft when the chain has no tension on it. But then you put the dummy tensioner in, where the primary tensioner would go, and by tensioning the primary chain it pulls the sprocket slots back to the center of the mounting holes. I think you are talking about the secondary timing chain and in that case you're correct. I was replying to the original post though regarding the main timing chain.
awesome, do i even need to invest a timing kit? since i have access for a real quality one at work( we sell them, but the are like 300 i can get it for whatever the store pay for lol)
vincent chew if you can and dont mind to spend it id get it to make sure and get it done properly
do you have a video on lower timing chain?
vincent chew i do not at the moment :(
lol no worries. the video been a great help
Merhaba han.Rica etsem S50B32 timing ve vanos videosu eklermisin hiçbir yerde bulamadım.şimdiden teşekkür ederim.
The long bolt at 4:15 where can I find a replacement?
I have a problem in oil that does not rise above the engine >>>v6 m45
good job!! this is s50b32 or s50b30? thanks!!
None of those S50's
Hi,
I am new to your channel and I just bought me a 2000 BMW v8 540I . I was wondering if you can help me out and finding a good manual book on these cars. Step by step on the hole motor. I want to do my own maintenance machinic on my beautiful BMW....LOL
Thank you.
NewTIS.com
Hi Han so my car overheated today I pull off to cool it down turned out to be my fan that sits on the motor cut my top thin water pipe with its blade so I filled up water drove home and a few hours later try to start the car and no crank so I remove covers and found oil flooding my spark plug well does it mean that my head gasket is blown ?
King Ryan oh nooooo, one thing about over heating engine is you dont drive it back home no matter how far... it sounds like your engine is warped and done.... idk if you can save it my friend
HAN'S GARAGE which means I have to take it to be machined again the oil and water didn't mix my oil is clean
Oil in spark plug holes has nothing to do with the head gasket. That’s simply a sign of valve cover failure which is common ($50). If your fan cut your hose then your motor mounts and trans mounts are trashed, allowing the engine to move too much. As for not starting I would assume you head gasket failed or worse. Can’t really diagnose without more information but since this post is 8 months old...hopefully you fixed it by now
Royal process mechanically
Спасибо я хоть и не понимаю твоего языка но по твоим действием все понил
Добро пожаловать!
Hey bud at 10:00 you mention the arrows have to be facing up and down but I noticed u did not leave them facing directly up and down. The top arrow is at 11o'clock and the bottom arrow is at 5o'clock.. does that matter? Because they are technically not facing directly up and down. Please let me know if this matters thanks and good video
Yes when I said up and down, i didnt mean 12 to 6. The positions you see in the video is correct
@@HansGarage thank you so much 😁
Hi Han awesome videos bro, I was wondering if you can help me out, my cluster from my e36 is making a buzzing noise and all my gauges isn't working I checked all my fuses the fuses are in working order nothing blew.
King Ryan not too familiar with the e36 cluster.... but I do know for e46 when the cluster isn't working you have to get your dme reprogrammed.
HAN'S GARAGE thanks buddy hoping someone here can help me out I don't wanna buy a new cluster then its not a cluster issues if you know what I mean ?
King Ryan yea but good thing is that used clusters arent that expensive on ebay actually. Given the fact that e36 are old now maybe it is the cluster? What is working and what isnt??
HAN'S GARAGE None of the gauges are working only the battery light the abs light and some other light its making a buzzing sound like a bed side snooze alarm, dude I blew a head gasket a few months ago and sold my other car, fixed the bm now recently due to delays and one f up my thermostate 10ml bolt snapped into my head etc, it's most important that I can see my heat/water gauge temperature at all times these cars have a high tendency of overheating due to thermostate failure
Good news dude it was the cluster second hand cluster R900 convert it into dollors ? I'm back on the streets burning it up lol
Hey, just wanted you to know that the ratchet extension messes up the torque values. Always use the shortest possible extension/no extensions if possible. Cheers.
I believe the torque reading should be the same regardless of extension length. it is the universal joint which makes the torque incorrect.
So I dropped my chain by accident there’s still tension I was doing a headgasket and now the motor is back together. At certaint points when rotating the crank it doesn’t want to turn more and I hear metal contact (I think it’s the chain fell off the bottom sprocket) how would I get it back on
Every thing turns fine but the timing slowly gets thrown off tdc and the two can marks aren’t lining up anymore and I notice the main tensioner decompress and the plastic piece slaps the head
Where is the intro with the engine overview?
Is this a 4 cylinder engine or a 6 ?y
cmon man... are you really asking if e36 M3 has 4 or 6 cylinder engine??
Hello HAN IM A FAN. that was a joke lol it rhymes but i wasnt kidding i love you bro epic bro!
1999. E. 39. Timing. Chain. Install
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Why don't you read my description box?
can someone please make a video on how to time the lower timing chain? there is not a single one in the internet...
Zach Kramer ill get to it in the spring :)
3:00 those are "screws"?
Yea 10mm screws or nuts just for me to have enough room to tighten the chain
Screws and nuts aren't the same thing.
sachelle babbar thank you for pointing that out :)
My wife owns a 1995 bnw m3
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If this video can get 100 likes, Han will film me do a backflip... And i never done a backflip. Muaaawaahahahaha
oh this will be real good :)
Vanos ayarı olmadı bu motor çalışmamıştır