✅ Best External Antenna For 5G Home Internet - T-Mobile AT&T Verizon - 4x4 MIMO

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  • @NaterTater
    @NaterTater  11 місяців тому +4

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  • @timmturner
    @timmturner 11 місяців тому +13

    You do great testing Nate, nothing to complain about.
    I'm very happy to see you test other antennas, not because you are in cahoots with waveform but you see how others perform compared to waveform.

  • @mwolrich
    @mwolrich 11 місяців тому +12

    so as expected, the Waveform 4X4 performed the best ✅

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  11 місяців тому +3

      Yep and it was interesting to see how the others compared and especially where they did much better or worse then I expected.

  • @QuackyTack
    @QuackyTack 11 місяців тому +11

    Thanks so much it’s insane that so many other UA-camrs don’t have the quality nor knowledge of Celluar internet like you do thank you for all that you do!!

  • @Mikedeela
    @Mikedeela 11 місяців тому +3

    My results are generally comparable to your cheetah results. This morning, it’s about 3:30 AM now, I’m getting just over 300 Mbps download, 36 Mbps, a latency of about 39. This is with three bars, good. I occasionally get slightly better results and four bars, very good. I’m still trying to get the G4AR, and I’m still getting blank looks from the TMobile store staff when I ask about it. From your data I probably won’t get much better than I already have. But really, my goal was not vast improvements, just more consistent upper end operations. I would also like to push down my latency a little bit. It’s not terrible, but it is noticeable. Thank you so much for all the work you do.

  • @wondersteven
    @wondersteven 11 місяців тому +4

    Really hard and thorough work Nate. Thanks. I've already bought a WF 4x4 Log Periodic and although I haven't installed yet, I wanted to make sure I made the right purchase. Your timely review reaffirms that.

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  11 місяців тому

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @TomWage
    @TomWage 11 місяців тому +3

    Interesting information that you are presenting. I just got a hold of a T-Mobile G4AR Gateway and I purchased and received a Waveform 4x4 MIMO antenna. I noticed that your data only includes 1 cable connection option (AP = Antenna Port & GP = Gateway Port): AP1 to GP1, AP2 to GP3; AP3 to GP2; AP4 to GP4. This is also what is indicated in the Waveform manual. I talked with a Waveform signal specialist, and he told me that I should consider doing my testing with all cabling options, however this would have meant 24 cabling options for every locating that I want to test. As we talked further, he said that I didn't need to test all 24 options, just 6 options as follows: (Option 1) AP1 to GP1; AP2 to GP2; AP3 to GP3; AP4 to GP4; (Option 2) AP1 to GP1; AP2 to GP2; AP3 to GP4; AP4 to GP3; (Option 3) AP1 to GP1; AP2 to GP3; AP3 to GP2; AP4 to GP4; (Option 4) AP1 to GP4; AP2 to GP1; AP3 to GP3; AP4 to GP2; (Option 5) AP1 to GP2; AP2 to GP1; AP3 to GP4; AP4 to GP3; (Option 6) AP1 to GP4; AP2 to GP2; AP3 to GP3; AP4 to GP1. In some cases option 3 works the best which is what you likely discovered while in other cases I get significantly better performance out of the other options depending upon the location as my closest tower is 7.2 miles from my house. I aim the antenna panel using the T-Mobile Internet Wi-Fi network app.
    I spent an entire day running tests today and I noticed that I am getting a huge amount of variability in my results, and the 5G data isn't changing which leads me to a question for you. Should I be unplugging and power cycling the Gateway every time that I switch cable positions? Thanks

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  11 місяців тому +1

      As you are finding out it is very hard to accurately and consistently test this. I certainly could have added different antenna connection orders but it would simply get out of hand. Find what works well/well enough and optimize it. Once you narrow it down you should power off/on the gateway AND send some data through the connection prior to speed test and deciding on it's performance.

  • @biblebelter9772
    @biblebelter9772 11 місяців тому +3

    Thanks. I'm not ready to get an antenna any time soon. But I appreciate all the valuable information that you provide us fixed wireless consumers.

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  11 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for watching! Part of the reasons I make the videos is so you can get an idea how stuff performs and then you can decide what to pursue. Glad it helped.

  • @GlenBlanchard
    @GlenBlanchard 11 місяців тому +4

    Good information thanks for your testing . They have an old saying pay for what you get. Be waiting for the next video.THANK YOU.

  • @scottricci7154
    @scottricci7154 10 місяців тому +3

    If I literally live equally between two towers. Would you recommend me getting two waveform 2x2’s or one 4x4 and just find the two with the best results. I thought about aiming the 2x2’s one at each tower

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  10 місяців тому +1

      I think a 4x4 connection towards a single tower would be best. In fact in the best case scenario you'd block as much of the 2nd tower signal as possible and focus just on the best tower. The other tower signal is effectively interference.

  • @minigpracing3068
    @minigpracing3068 11 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for the discount, finally grabbed a waveform panel with your link. Going to try it in the attic and see if it survives the summer heat and still gives signal with winter snow on the roof. If not I'll have to get it outside, which I'm working on for a TV antenna and a weather station.

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  11 місяців тому +1

      awesome. if you have a way to point it out a gable end so it just goes through a vertical wall and not shingles thats the best for attic use. heat shouldnt be a issue but built up snow can be.

    • @minigpracing3068
      @minigpracing3068 11 місяців тому +1

      @@NaterTater Shingles is the direction I need to go, so probably not going to be great until I can get it outside. Outside is another bunch of money for the lightning arrestors and probably longer cables. Have to see how it goes.

  • @scottricci7154
    @scottricci7154 10 місяців тому +3

    Hey. Theres a little tater guy on the desk!

  • @lattermanstudio
    @lattermanstudio 11 місяців тому +1

    Your link to U.FL to type N are only 6” cables … you need to include a link to the 12” cables … much easier to use and these are what WF are including …. Just a heads up …. Great report by the way 👍

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  11 місяців тому

      the type N ones are 8" but the SMA ones were 6" so I updated them to 8" ones too. I prefer to keep them as short as possible but folks can always pick longer cables if they want. thanks for point it out, i agree 6" are a bit tight.

  • @chuckhowland5146
    @chuckhowland5146 11 місяців тому +1

    Love your videos. I just switched from cable to TMI gateway G4AR. One idea for future videos is to measure the amps/watts from the gateways with and w/o antennas. I just did a baseline w/o antenna (BTW I plan on getting 4x4 MIMO Waveform early in 2024 based on your testing) never saw anything higher than 97 watts (during speed test, upload seems to draw most power). I was doing it to not overbuy a standby UPS for it as it has to be away from my other equipment. Gateway specs say 3 amps max draw but not anywhere close w/o an antenna based on my observation. Perhaps it draws more with the MIMOs. How much more would be great to know. Along with how to really shutoff G4AR wifi radios!

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  11 місяців тому +1

      I likely dont have a tool accurate enough to measure the power since its relatively low. 97w seems high. The chester cheetah v2 comes with a 36w power supply for example (12v 3amp output). To turn off the G4AR wifi you should be able to use the Hint app ua-cam.com/video/Qy-f8xfPk4s/v-deo.html

    • @chuckhowland5146
      @chuckhowland5146 11 місяців тому

      @@NaterTater I think the confusion is input current vs output I made. G4ar is rated 1.2 amps INPUT per adapter label which is 144 watts so 97 watts is reasonable per my wattage ac device. I can’t measure output of power adapter but I just wanted to know the ac draw. You are right in the draw is small. Thanks for link I will try it out!

  • @QuackyTack
    @QuackyTack 11 місяців тому +2

    One thing I have been curious about is using usb lte 5G modems that are a m.2 style and usb tethering it to a router with rooter or openwrt on it for instance

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  11 місяців тому +1

      the goal there is just a DIY cost effective one? Or is there another goal to achieve?

    • @Blu3ManiC
      @Blu3ManiC 11 місяців тому +1

      Without an external antenna you would get the same performance as a 5g phone tethered to a glinet pocket router with a ttl firewall. You won’t save much money unless you already have a good spare 5g phone and sim or you just really want a good diy project.

    • @QuackyTack
      @QuackyTack 11 місяців тому

      @@Blu3ManiC thanks for your repel that’s what I figured I really appreciate your feedback I just wonder why more UA-camrs don’t do cellular internet videos mostly

    • @Blu3ManiC
      @Blu3ManiC 11 місяців тому

      @@QuackyTackbecause if they’re on UA-cam posting videos it usually means they already have good internet and don’t need cellular. That’s why you only see it on RV channels or Rural home content channels.

  • @stevenmartintrimble1386
    @stevenmartintrimble1386 11 місяців тому +1

    I would like you to review the instyconnect modem / antenna. The modem resides in the antenna resulting in no 'cable' signal loss. Thanks for all your informative videos. i love the techy stuff.

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  11 місяців тому

      I can check back on them. I tried for a few weeks long ago and they were always out of stock!

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  11 місяців тому

      Oh geez, just went to their site. Its now $1200 to get it with their cheaper external antenna!! But it is in stock atleast.

  • @WatchRichRebuildsChannel
    @WatchRichRebuildsChannel 11 місяців тому +2

    Just a question, I used a app/website to locate my cell towers near my house that tells me what bands they are broadcasting but how would I know which one has the fast processing speeds? I know I can just test it with moving my antenna around but is there info on which cell tower near me has the more faster updated signals for data only ? Thanks again.

    • @fritzkabeano1969
      @fritzkabeano1969 11 місяців тому

      There's two ways data is sent/received by cell towers. One is using microwaves and the other is fiber. If your tower doesn't have a microwave antenna on it, then it's fiber. Microwave is slower.

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  11 місяців тому +1

      there's isnt a way for a consumer to know what the backhaul speed is for a tower but as mentioned seeing the microwave "drums" on the tower and no big black cables (fiber) likely means a slower backhaul.

  • @WatchRichRebuildsChannel
    @WatchRichRebuildsChannel 11 місяців тому +2

    Great video 👍. If you bought them on Amazon you could just return the crappy antennas and get your money back. I guess I’ll be buying WF 4x4 from your recommendations. Also have you done a video on portable devices,units,antennas like when your on business trip traveling at airports, hotels, etc…? Happy Holidays. Thank you in advance.

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  11 місяців тому

      I haven't done a video on portable ones specifically

  • @nomadicmicmac
    @nomadicmicmac 11 місяців тому +2

    Would a waveform stop my gateway from dropping from 5g n71 to a 4g signal daily?

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  11 місяців тому +2

      I wont guarantee it but yes in general I have seen that myself and heard of others reporting the same finding.

    • @genxgamerdad141
      @genxgamerdad141 11 місяців тому +2

      Do you know what your signal strength is? Might be on the edge, external antenna could help.

  • @robertlittiken394
    @robertlittiken394 11 місяців тому +1

    It would be interesting to see how the 4x4 Log Periodic compares to the flat panel.

    • @MrLukerowell
      @MrLukerowell 11 місяців тому

      In my test the WF log periodic antennas running in 2X2 outperformed the WF 4X4 in every way the gain of the log periodic is so much more than the panel. I ordered 2 more acouple weeks ago and have not had a chance to install them do to the holidays and the flu going around.

    • @robertlittiken394
      @robertlittiken394 10 місяців тому

      @@MrLukerowell look forward to hearing how the 4x4 LP works out.

  • @Blu3ManiC
    @Blu3ManiC 11 місяців тому +2

    The generic 4x4s are great when you find the whole kits for 80 bucks or less. Once they get close to only saving a few bucks, there’s no point in not going with waveform or other established antenna companies like proxicast or poynting that have actually lab tested their kits.
    The consensus is the T-Mobile branded one just sucks and isn’t worth it lol

  • @WisdomTree2024
    @WisdomTree2024 8 місяців тому +1

    Very much thorough as always, you are much apricated, Thanks

  • @drakebarefoot5213
    @drakebarefoot5213 11 місяців тому +1

    Try testing a Proxicast brand setup against the WF

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  10 місяців тому +1

      i can look into that!

  • @1yehny
    @1yehny 2 місяці тому

    Do you have videos showing how to plug the antenna into the new TMobile router? I see 1,3,2,4 but what does that mean?

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  2 місяці тому

      @@1yehny which antenna and which gateway?

  • @robertharelson124
    @robertharelson124 10 місяців тому

    Isn't the measured latency bad? Seems it gets worse with the antennas looking back to the original test. I'm trying to get at 100ms or less.

  • @theknightsolaire8493
    @theknightsolaire8493 10 місяців тому

    Nate. Id love to see you review the new Wifix 4x4 Blaster antenna. Wireless haven just released it and its a fraction of the price waveform is.

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  10 місяців тому

      It appears it's $10 cheaper than a waveform 4x4 with my WF 5% discount. Launch sale makes it cheaper still but WF also has sales on occasion. I can still look into testing it sometime but its certainly not a significant price delta.

  • @michellelovejoy1383
    @michellelovejoy1383 11 місяців тому +1

    So to date I've not been able to get 5g with T Mobile with WF 4×4. We currently rented a 50 ft boom and still no 5g
    😢

    • @fritzkabeano1969
      @fritzkabeano1969 11 місяців тому

      Might have been way cheaper to just drive around with a 5G capable phone and find out signal strength/direction......just saying

    • @michellelovejoy1383
      @michellelovejoy1383 11 місяців тому

      @fritzkabeano1969 We have but the towers are over 2+ miles Plus I live in a mountainous area so dealing with topography issues.
      The only cell service we have is via WeBoost cell booster.

  • @jcchangshik3701
    @jcchangshik3701 8 місяців тому

    Hey Nate, I was able to get a different router with T-Mobile by following your instructions/guidance. Thank you! I am looking a the waveform antenna and I am wondering if it is something that you would recommend if I am having reception issues. I am only getting 3 bars and I am wondering if the waveform antenna will help improve reception. Thanks again! Great content.

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  8 місяців тому

      Yes indeed, especially if you can put the antenna outside or in the attic.

    • @jcchangshik3701
      @jcchangshik3701 8 місяців тому +1

      Sweet! Yes, I am planning to install it outside. Thank you and keep producing those amazing/informative videos.

  • @BL-os5cp
    @BL-os5cp 7 місяців тому +1

    Great breakdown. I had to watch twice, but thar was just me.

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  7 місяців тому

      Glad to hear it was helpful. Note Waveform just redesigned their antennas: ua-cam.com/video/RFZBbSg_pzE/v-deo.html

  • @ruffu3
    @ruffu3 10 місяців тому

    Thanks so much for your information. And getting a better understanding of information helped me with my 5g tmobile. Have 4x4 waveform coming this week! Also have the new gateway router the white one with external ports.. I get 35-50 down and like 85-90 up without the antenna but learning bout the SINR.. Thanks again

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  10 місяців тому

      Good, the 4x4 should help tremendously!

    • @ruffu3
      @ruffu3 10 місяців тому

      @@NaterTater thanks can't wait to see. Just did a speed test. Still don't have antenna til Thursday. Was getting 93 download and 95 upload.. Been nice to have code for 5% before lol.

  • @noahkb80
    @noahkb80 9 місяців тому

    Nate, if you have the time, opinion on SignalPlus and their directional antennas? If not, it's ok👍

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  9 місяців тому

      sorry, which one of their antennas? (note url's are blocked in comments)

  • @patrickhonar4285
    @patrickhonar4285 10 місяців тому +2

    Thanks!

  • @MrJpegi
    @MrJpegi 5 місяців тому

    Please also test poynting antennas Im curious

  • @colleenshannon8658
    @colleenshannon8658 10 місяців тому +1

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  • @fuzzwalker610
    @fuzzwalker610 10 місяців тому

    What about metal roofs? Does it need to be outside in that case? Versus the attic.

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  10 місяців тому

      Yes, outside is always better and especially so for metal roofs and siding.

  • @colleenshannon8658
    @colleenshannon8658 11 місяців тому +1

    ThankYou Nate For All This Beautiful Intuitive Information, But, I Am Not Going Too Be Able Too Stay, For This One, Cuz, Medicals, Apptment, However, I Will Be Back For More, And Yeah, O. K. I Have Your Back. I See Fully Where Your Coming From. Let Me Do My Doings, And I Am Noting, I.K. Sooh Yeah. LGB COCO CO 🕊️🐦💜💖💜 HEART.😊

  • @johnny-jr5iz
    @johnny-jr5iz 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks Nate sell me one those antennas,,lol

  • @MrLukerowell
    @MrLukerowell 11 місяців тому +2

    You might want to try the TWH 4X4 panel antenna I have compared it it with the same setup against 2 WF and TWH out performed the WF but ended up buying some WF yagi antennas and they out peform both the WF and TWH panels hands down only running in 2X2.

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  11 місяців тому +1

      thanks for the info, i'll look into them!

    • @timmturner
      @timmturner 11 місяців тому

      I've done a good bit of searching and haven't turned up anything related to TWH antennas, do you have an actual company name?

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  11 місяців тому +1

      @@timmturner the wireless haven

    • @timmturner
      @timmturner 11 місяців тому

      @@NaterTater thanks Nate

    • @Kota-sk8sl
      @Kota-sk8sl 7 місяців тому

      Wait so the 2x2 yagis did better than waveforms panel antenna, the quadmini or quadpro?

  • @kbkmusicsnob
    @kbkmusicsnob 6 місяців тому

    So can you mount the Waveform antennas in your attic?

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  6 місяців тому

      Yes. Outside is best though.

  • @the-papaw
    @the-papaw 10 місяців тому

    Why not use 4 Yagi Directionals, would you not get better gains?

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  10 місяців тому

      Great question. Yes, the "yagi" (actually LPDA, log periodic directional antenna) typically have higher gain. However Waveform recommends them namely for when you have RF line of sight to the tower. I have trees and a little terrain between me and the tower.

  • @ThePinkkdd
    @ThePinkkdd 3 місяці тому

    I just got the white t mobile 5 g, my outside cameras have weak signals.

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  3 місяці тому

      @@ThePinkkdd ua-cam.com/video/BEA61OK6hmc/v-deo.html

  • @44lilron
    @44lilron 8 місяців тому

    What About Long periodic Antennas Vs WF 4x4 flat panel?

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  8 місяців тому

      LPDA are higher gain and better for when you have RF line of sight.

  • @BJ_MBA
    @BJ_MBA 6 місяців тому +1

    From GB thank you very inu

  • @gabagogebs7818
    @gabagogebs7818 9 місяців тому

    I can't seem to find your video on 4x4 antenna cords line order

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  9 місяців тому

      www.waveform.com/a/b/guides/hotspots

  • @christostoumazou1166
    @christostoumazou1166 2 місяці тому

    how we connect antena on verizon gateway there is no conections

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  2 місяці тому

      @@christostoumazou1166 ua-cam.com/video/x7TPU6dah7c/v-deo.html

  • @gregnorgard7904
    @gregnorgard7904 8 місяців тому

    I have a question I have the T-Mobile hotspot it won't let me set a time to shut off the grandkids devices at a certain time it comes back with a message can't update the device any ideas why that would happen?

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  8 місяців тому

      I'm not sure. Did you ask tmobile support?

    • @gregnorgard7904
      @gregnorgard7904 8 місяців тому

      @@NaterTater not yet

  • @THE_FACTS_ONLY_HERE
    @THE_FACTS_ONLY_HERE 6 місяців тому

    The cost of this antenna is over the top!

    • @NaterTater
      @NaterTater  6 місяців тому

      Well they are designed to go on the roof.

  • @ElliotMessage
    @ElliotMessage 10 місяців тому

    For the past 2 years T-Mobiles download speed was slowing down 5 mbps Humboldt county California Rio Dell, Eureka, Fortuna, Arcata Vally West area. Horrible. Magenta max priority plan for $95 they slowed us down and we promised priority data speed unlimited. No cap limit. Lied. Count me in for a complaint..

  • @VentureNW
    @VentureNW 4 місяці тому

    Curious if you have tested the Inseego products