Kia: 11:1 crawl ratio Wet Dual Clutch 8 speed VW Atlas: 20:1 crawl ratio, traditional automatic 8 speed. The Volkswagen combined with Haldex 5 could be one of the most capable crossovers that doesn’t have a rear twin clutch differential. You just have to give it more ground clearance. I’m 2 minutes into watching, but I know which one will do better 😃.
10:18 the Ridgeline has a 20:1 crawl ratio with twin clutch rear differential. The Atlas does it next best (2nd least violence). The Outback XT is 3rd. The Sorento is last and incredibly violent. Man, I love your videos 😃
_It doesn't have to think and then put the power, it's just putting the power back there from the get go_ - great description of LOCK mode in many modern, clutch-based awd systems.
The Sorento's interior is more premium. Kia did a great job at giving contrast in the interior by giving it camel brown leather and gray imitation wood, give the interior material and color diversity.
Interesting comparison, folks. As the owner of a KIA ( 2018 Sorento) and a VW (2018 GTI) I really don't have a dog in this fight. At least as far as the brands are concerned. In any event, if the sort of off-roading represented by the Washington Overland Trail was a major priority neither of the vehicles would be my choice. And if forced to undertake the mission I'd certainly replace the All Season tires with more appropriate rubber on either one. So let's be frank. The Sorento and the Cross Sport are each 21st century versions of family station wagons for Americans who have abandoned both wagons and minivans. Serious off-roading is the mission of few midsize SUVs. It's certainly fair to test the Sorento and Cross Sport marketing-base off-road pretensions but for the vast majority of customers neither will be subjected to challenges more severe than inclement weather on paved roads and occasional forays on well traveled dirt or gravel. Want to be totally confident in traversing the Overland Trail? Get a trail-rated Wrangler, a Bronco, or a Defender. That's not to say, of course, that your review was inappropriate. But as my Daddy used to say, "When you see dogs dancing you don't ask how well they do it. It's amazing that they do it at all."
VW has plenty of off road experience with the legendary Touareg. The Atlas definitely doesn't have the same great 4WD system as the Touareg but they still got it.
I prefer Sorento inside and outside! Plus in my country it has terrain modes 😊 I test drove it this week on 19 inch wheels and was amazing. Now I just have to wait until they ship with the new badge cause I like it better.
Kia has nicer interior minus the 2 flat screens stuck on front of molded cluster area, horrible afterthought looking idea, either have cluster in it, or make flat dash for flat cluster
Hello. I have seen some of your Kia Sorento reviews and on some of them, you claim that the suspension is on the stiff side (hybrid review) , on some others you claim that it's on the soft side... Which one is it?
Ryan, you say the N American Sorento's don't get off road but the Canadian models get mud and sand as well as the snow mode you tested. Obviously we don't have anyone up here that's tested it as well as you.
So Truck King just did an off road review of the Canadian X Line, which is more of a mid range model and the off road settings did seem to have more effect when they tried the off camber test
Would everyone on here talking about “Off-road capabilities suck on the Hyundai/Kia” take a few moments to research “Tire Technology”. It does not take rocket science to figure out that a simple change of boots will provide a tremendous difference in handling and performance. All the host wanted to show you is how they perform with factory provided equipment. If you put the same tires on both vehicles my money would be on that Sorento X!! The Volkswagen just looked way to sluggish and under powered I’m my eyes.
I am a big VW fan and I do like the Kia also, I love their vents because in cold climates, you really want those down pointing vents to warm up your lower body. I also LOVE the bottom hinged gas pedal, which VW used to have and the Passat is the last one to have that... really disappointed that VW and AUDI gave it up, and Toyota and Kia picked it up, smart decision for the latter. We had a Sorento 2020 as a loaner in California for a week and we really liked it, my wife especially liked the driving position and the bottom hinged gad pedal since she is shorter. We were going to trade our Tiguan for the Sorento until I found out the Kia has a DSG, which to me is a hard NO in anything larger than a GTI.
Hey Ryan, great video as usual. Just wanted to comment that I do enjoy your tandem test drive videos with Karleena. You make an awesome team and great content to watch. Thank you! Subscriber and fan, from Sydney, Australia
Nice video and format. Karleena always adds to the driving adventures. But, I think the ONLY thing missed was VALUE VALUE VALUE. Was the vw a better value than the KIA?? Ahhh, no it really wasn't. Warranty of both, etc. IMO, save $5k and buy the KIA. Get that $5k and invest for your kids college fund. Merci
Don't understand why these were taken off-road. These vehicles are more "trail" rated with the stock tires. If you wanted to show it's off road capability for a fair fight, slap on some proper all terrain or off road tires. Give Katarina a booster seat so she can see over the hood
The Kia ads in particular show the Sorento "scaling mountains" and ripping up valleys. They specifcially target off-road adventure. As for the tires... manufacturers don't let us change tires on test cars. That's something we don't have control over. But then again, they're both on equally awful off-road tires. So it's equal.
Driving up the hill was not at all like driving in snow and ice lol. Snow mode will never work to climb a dry dusty hill like that, that's user error in choosing the wrong mode. Automatic or off-road modes are far better test case scenario in future. This is because snow mode lowers your rpm so your acceleration feels dull to prevent slipping once ice for example. You need that acceleration to climb that hill and snow mode won't give it to you.
I can’t wait for you to get your hands on the new Ford Bronco Bandlands with Sasquatch package! Side note I have this exact trim and color option Kia Sorento XLine. I love it for on road everyday use which it’s clearly more suited for. I wish Kia had of gave United States version a dedicated off-road mode like they do in their foreign markets. But I guess they figured most Americans wouldn’t ever take the Sorento off road anyway 😆. Great video,I was really looking forward to this one.
I had to sign a document when I was signing the loan contract with Chase bank that I would NOT take my Mazda CX 5 off road. Cant remember the.penalty maybe they'd send Vinny to you know make sure I remember next time. Truth is non of these crossovers are designed to go off road.
I’m curious to see a loaded off-road test. These SUVs are always tested with 1 driver and some camera gear. Who really goes off roading alone? You’re carrying your family wether to a camping ground or just on an adventure. How well would the Kia perform with all 7 seats filled in the same test, likewise how well would the VW perform with all 5 seats filled. I think we need more loaded tests.
@@chuckwalla2967 yes exactly. Or at the very least these tests should be done on the cars designed as people carriers. So sports cars yes, 1 passenger is enough but SUVs and large sedans I want max capacity make it more realistic. I know for a fact my Subaru is amazing by myself but honestly a little basic when loaded with passengers
...everyone talks about KIA's/Hyundai's fantastic 10-year warranty; but no one ever discusses getting a warranty repair at year 6 or 7...or even at year 9+. How "easy" is it to get a failed part warrantied at the dealer beyond year 5? Is it just the part that is covered or is labor covered too? What service history must the car have in order for the service manager/dealer not say "owner abuse" caused the failure? Sorry, I have to side with VW on this one. My '04 GTI was nearly flawless.
@@K03sport I have had phenomenal coverage with my Hyundai's & Kia's. They cover parts and labor. They stated the sound I heard was caused by a bad CV joint in the axle and it was 53 miles short of 100,000 miles. They told me the part would be in the following day and go about what I had to do and even though when I would be returning it would be over the 100,000 miles for the replacement of axle shaft it would still be covered under warranty since the issue was found previously to 100,000 miles. Also there were times that they would also give me a loaner vehicle for part of the day or even a couple days if need be. Another thing is you can also pay to extend your 5 years 60,000 miles bumper to bumper out to 10 years 100,000 miles. I have done that on every one and it has always more than paid for itself. $840 and got over $4000 in parts and labor. Hope this was helpful.
@@leighstratiff3652...glad it worked out for you. I want to assume you had good rapport with the dealer and used them for (scheduled) service too. Again, only assuming.
I agree, I want to see the Mazda CX-5 with the regular 6 Speed Automatic!! Maybe tested with a new Tucson? But I'd take whatever (or nothing) as the second car :)
The Kia definitely has a more luxurious interior. However, where the Volkswagen misses on interior luxury it more than makes up for with structural integrity. A simple shutting of the doors on the Kia and the Volkswagen exhibit completely different sounds. The overall strength and solid build of the Volkswagen definitely gives it an edge to the cheaply built but luxurious Kia.
@@Minimalist1266 The Atlas is solid. My friend was T-boned in his by an idiot who ran the red light at almost 50 mph. In the car it was him, wife, 4 kids and nanny. They all walked away fine from the accident. He ended up purchasing another one the next day.
In Canada we get terrain modes Snow/Mud/ Sand on the same switch as the drive modes, also these UA-cam "car people" test these cars with street tires and they know about it. Most middle class people with decent income will never take a 45000$CAD car that they have on payments for 7 years beyond the back alley of a neighborhood in which they are lost, forget about taking these cars off-road. As for the cars in the vid, the Kia wins all day long with 5year/100,000 km warranty vs VW for almost $50k CAD here with 4y/80,000km, we also have remote starter button built into the key fob from factory so you get a remote starter which costs around 600$ CAD usually to install a Kia 2 way system at a dealer. That 3d row should be viewed as an added bonus, you have it just in case, no adult will sit there in reality. I recently drove 2021 Sorento SX 2.5L turbo and was very impressed being an owner of a 2018 3.3L V6 Sorento EX+, the 21' Sorento has way more torque than my car, it really puts you into the seats and is perfect for the short bursts in town. The new Sorento is lighter and is 10-12% more fuel efficient than my 2018 which gets 8.2L on average / 100km in the City which is good for a V6. I used to be a VW fan but just got tired of wasting money. In Canada the Kia trims are so loaded at 45K range that to get a similar VW you need to spend over 50K
@@williekim5297 I didn't say they are not well build and solid. But you cannot make the assumption car sounds solid so it is solid. Manufacturers pay engineers to make their cars sound a certain way.
Sadly both of these vehicles are street machines, pretty boy vehicles. They are more concerned with designing these to show they are fast, but they are too low to the ground, too much overhang in the back and front, these are good for very flat dirt roads, but off road, NO! Great job on your driving demonstrations and filming. I agree with Karleena I would rather be in control as well. If you are not used to driving off road, don't. Great Job Karleena :) Thanks for sharing.
How tall is Karleena? Over the years it has been difficult to find a vehicle that fits my wife safely (she is 4'11"). Right now we have a 2006 Kia Sedona after a Moose on a suicide mission stepped in front of her back in 2018 totaling our 2016 Escape. The Sedona was only supposed to be a temporary vehicle while insurance was resolved, etc. We fell in love with the little Kia instantly because it fits her perfectly. We would, however, like a newer vehicle but the closest Ford, Dodge, Jeep dealership is two hours away, and all other auto dealers are 5-hours away, making it difficult to justify a two-day drive for a couple tests drive.
Happy 4th of July over there! I really like so much your dedicated dive into the tech of cars to use a bit off the shopping mall parking lanes. And when you are two there in the episodes, the added dialogue certainly creates more fun atmosphere to it. Being myself since 6 months hooked with a Sub Forester e-boxer on the European spec (weak torque honestly, miss my former diesel) i find a lot of pleasure in the ins and outs of Sweden. Responsibly of course, since we have a generous access to the nature here, but not for motor vehicles else than on trails, worth to mention. An extra LED-array to see the wild crossing the roads in the summer nights is a good measure, when sky is light, but the ground is a dark silhouette. The excellent power distribution has so far helped me NOT hitting the lane separator on a highway in sudden deep snow, I was like the butter in a fry pan, when an invisible hand firmly took me slow and firm back into my own lane, God bless the Engineering office in Tokyo for that! Or pulling out a 30+ year old barn find on locked wheels of an Volvo Amazon from the 60's. When cars were made of solid steel. But intelligent little light wighter Sub pulled her out and up to the awaiting transportation in a waiting Dodge RAM, comfortable on... yes, the shopping mall parking areas! :D Cheers and keep up the good work, you two!
Yeah I've seen a lot of videos of Subarus' performance being hindered by their transmissions. Unfortunate. Check out TFL's reviews of the Outback on Gold Mine Hill in CO. Even the VW Atlas outperformed it.
@@lukeheffernan I totally hope Subaru will follow Nissan and reverse back to traditional auto transmission for their most offroad focused models at least
Mothra lol it was a Cicada. Just curious if next time you dont use the center clutch button and allow the AWD to manage the climbs for the Sorento, will it do the same or better. Maybe thats why it does not have an off road mode? I m curious for next time. Do the 2022 Sorento SX or above trim. Great videos keep them coming!
Sorento definitely wasn't built for these roads, I think that's why they didn't dare to add off-road mode in it. I'm not sure about the V6 version though (the one we get it here in Dubai), we don't get the 2.5 turbo as you guys, we get either the V6 3.3 or regular 2.5 and it goes 0-60 in around 10 seconds, but I'm still planning to buy it cause it offers alot more than other cars in the segment for less money for my daily drive
@@drivingsports oh wow didn't know that, anyways I'm not going to bother with the AWD, I'm going straight to the front wheel drive automatic transmission, I think that's where the sorento fit best
I finally get to watch this video. It features my man Ryan, Funny and Cute, "Karleena," 2 CUVs. Finally .. A COOL XR4Ti T-shirt!!!! (Unless I'm blind, and can't distinguish the car)
If they only allowed 18 inch rims which is obviously more practical for awd on the sorento. 20 inch rims is stupid without giving customers a free option to choose a more practical 18 inch rims. Atleast w that size rim you could change to a good all terrain tire
I wish she had a lot more knowledge about the vehicles and terrain. You explain soo much better 😁 with what we want hear about the vehicles and how they perform.
I have a Sorento and the SMART mode is not it. Another UA-camr goes into detail about it but the test should have been done on either Comfort or Sport.
Actually the Touareg is similar to the Sorento. It began as a competent off-road vehicles but lost those roots long ago. All the technology that made it a challenging off-roader (height adjustable suspension, middle and rear lockers, etc) are no more
I honestly think that you gave the vw less of a chance before deciding to give it momentum. You have done your rock trail with this and it did it more easily, and 4motion needs a bit of slippage and rpm to work, just an honest opinion, great video and good chemistry with karlena, fun videos you do together!
My old 2005 Hyundai Terracan would go around this track much better than these two vehicles but i wouldn't go as far as saying it was a better car.I'm sure they are very comfy to take a long drive in though where cars and trucks designed to go around countryside as this aren't so great for long distances.You don't see Tour de France riders using mountain bikes if you get my drift.
Every Kia/Hyundai product you've taken off-road fails at basic things, either the Traction control has no idea what to do or the CVT and the clutch overheats, the computer gets confused, and stutters, can't imagine what would happen to a family driving that Kia on snow/ice...there is a reason Volkswagen is the number car maker in the world, flashy designs will only get you so far.
Hi nice to see girls and ladies can go for offroading and are capable of doing off-road. Please upload more of woman testing 4x4 offroad. Thanks for a reply
Does this dude ever respond to comments? This sucks my state "Seattle Washington" does not get this suv i want this so bad but not going to oregon to get it.. ill get the xse, i am just hoping this model can go off roading not crazy off road but for camping and overlanding. how is the xse hybrid good for this?
I answer all the time. But I’m not sure why you posted the same question over three completely different videos? Also, we took the RAV4 hybrid on the trail.. if that’s what you’re asking. The video is in our back-catalog if you look for it.
You know I really like that Kia Sorento but I'm so disappointed in watching these videos that that these crossovers have fake all wheel drive system that's fake I mean a jeep has a real four wheel drive system where it actually sends power to the back and is moving forward this is terrible but I guess maybe this is made for city folks
I never expected them to be anywhere near a Jeep rock climbing capable, but these tests weren't that hard. One wheel off the ground should not have been a total struggle.
These are hopeless AWD systems. They might as well do without the system and save weight and gas while feel more power on the road where these will primarily by rolling on. Like the Kia dash more
Great video! To really highlight the difference that wheel travel and tires make, the "Up the Trail" section at 8:00 can easily be traversed in 2WD by my 2019 4Runner shod with Goodyear Wrangler Ultratterrains. Sometimes older tech is best. :)
The Kia looks good but somehow I knew this would be the result. They just aren’t refined enough in any spect except interesting designs. VW all the way.
Carolina driving skills sucked other test drives I'd seen the car did better. "It's on sport mode" when it was supposed to be on off road and the snow mode just start it on off road mode just because the other car didn't have off road ....blah blah blah
is this fair test? the car has off-road mode vs the car has not built for off road. Not fair. May be he is german blood. The guy kept coaching her as soon as the output was not what he expected lol.
+1 Like for Karleena. Ryan, can you do a similar test, but while towing something? Sure, neither vehicle is rated very high, but how are their towing manners? Can they pull a mini-camper or a pair of personal watercraft decently? With these "as-tested" prices, I am ASSuming they came with a tow package and hitch. Which one would you want to tow with?
Kia: 11:1 crawl ratio Wet Dual Clutch 8 speed
VW Atlas: 20:1 crawl ratio, traditional automatic 8 speed.
The Volkswagen combined with Haldex 5 could be one of the most capable crossovers that doesn’t have a rear twin clutch differential. You just have to give it more ground clearance. I’m 2 minutes into watching, but I know which one will do better 😃.
10:18 the Ridgeline has a 20:1 crawl ratio with twin clutch rear differential. The Atlas does it next best (2nd least violence). The Outback XT is 3rd. The Sorento is last and incredibly violent. Man, I love your videos 😃
I just don't want a Volkswagen long term. The German cars just don't seem to be reliable or cheap to fix.
_It doesn't have to think and then put the power, it's just putting the power back there from the get go_ - great description of LOCK mode in many modern, clutch-based awd systems.
The Sorento's interior is more premium. Kia did a great job at giving contrast in the interior by giving it camel brown leather and gray imitation wood, give the interior material and color diversity.
lmao "premium".
@@Kumar-bg6nr It’s obvious you’ve never been in one
I love my vw... its sleek, it's not busy, and the ride quality is smooth!!!
Interesting comparison, folks. As the owner of a KIA ( 2018 Sorento) and a VW (2018 GTI) I really don't have a dog in this fight. At least as far as the brands are concerned. In any event, if the sort of off-roading represented by the Washington Overland Trail was a major priority neither of the vehicles would be my choice. And if forced to undertake the mission I'd certainly replace the All Season tires with more appropriate rubber on either one.
So let's be frank. The Sorento and the Cross Sport are each 21st century versions of family station wagons for Americans who have abandoned both wagons and minivans. Serious off-roading is the mission of few midsize SUVs. It's certainly fair to test the Sorento and Cross Sport marketing-base off-road pretensions but for the vast majority of customers neither will be subjected to challenges more severe than inclement weather on paved roads and occasional forays on well traveled dirt or gravel. Want to be totally confident in traversing the Overland Trail? Get a trail-rated Wrangler, a Bronco, or a Defender. That's not to say, of course, that your review was inappropriate. But as my Daddy used to say, "When you see dogs dancing you don't ask how well they do it. It's amazing that they do it at all."
Buy Land Cruiser.
@@addicz2 I'll take a Porsche, thank you.
VW has plenty of off road experience with the legendary Touareg. The Atlas definitely doesn't have the same great 4WD system as the Touareg but they still got it.
I prefer Sorento inside and outside! Plus in my country it has terrain modes 😊
I test drove it this week on 19 inch wheels and was amazing. Now I just have to wait until they ship with the new badge cause I like it better.
Kia has nicer interior minus the 2 flat screens stuck on front of molded cluster area, horrible afterthought looking idea, either have cluster in it, or make flat dash for flat cluster
Just debadge it and get the new one
@@curiosityredpill7030 not possible! The shape and type of badge is different.
Hello. I have seen some of your Kia Sorento reviews and on some of them, you claim that the suspension is on the stiff side (hybrid review) , on some others you claim that it's on the soft side... Which one is it?
Honestly the Kia didn’t do as bad as they said, but I could see how the off-road modes would be helpful
That thumbnail *chefs kiss* lol
Ryan, you say the N American Sorento's don't get off road but the Canadian models get mud and sand as well as the snow mode you tested. Obviously we don't have anyone up here that's tested it as well as you.
So Truck King just did an off road review of the Canadian X Line, which is more of a mid range model and the off road settings did seem to have more effect when they tried the off camber test
I slapped a/t tires on my Sorento and it did great. Love it and gets the job done.
Would everyone on here talking about “Off-road capabilities suck on the Hyundai/Kia” take a few moments to research “Tire Technology”. It does not take rocket science to figure out that a simple change of boots will provide a tremendous difference in handling and performance. All the host wanted to show you is how they perform with factory provided equipment. If you put the same tires on both vehicles my money would be on that Sorento X!! The Volkswagen just looked way to sluggish and under powered I’m my eyes.
Felt like the kia was 2x stronger
I am a big VW fan and I do like the Kia also, I love their vents because in cold climates, you really want those down pointing vents to warm up your lower body. I also LOVE the bottom hinged gas pedal, which VW used to have and the Passat is the last one to have that... really disappointed that VW and AUDI gave it up, and Toyota and Kia picked it up, smart decision for the latter. We had a Sorento 2020 as a loaner in California for a week and we really liked it, my wife especially liked the driving position and the bottom hinged gad pedal since she is shorter. We were going to trade our Tiguan for the Sorento until I found out the Kia has a DSG, which to me is a hard NO in anything larger than a GTI.
What did you go with instead? Or what would you buy instead of the Sorrento because of the transmission?
Hey Ryan, great video as usual. Just wanted to comment that I do enjoy your tandem test drive videos with Karleena.
You make an awesome team and great content to watch.
Thank you!
Subscriber and fan, from Sydney, Australia
Can’t stop watching these test drives! Well dome - going to be using your channel for my next two vehicle purchases!
Nice video and format. Karleena always adds to the driving adventures. But, I think the ONLY thing missed was VALUE VALUE VALUE. Was the vw a better value than the KIA?? Ahhh, no it really wasn't. Warranty of both, etc. IMO, save $5k and buy the KIA. Get that $5k and invest for your kids college fund. Merci
Don't understand why these were taken off-road. These vehicles are more "trail" rated with the stock tires. If you wanted to show it's off road capability for a fair fight, slap on some proper all terrain or off road tires.
Give Katarina a booster seat so she can see over the hood
The Kia ads in particular show the Sorento "scaling mountains" and ripping up valleys. They specifcially target off-road adventure. As for the tires... manufacturers don't let us change tires on test cars. That's something we don't have control over. But then again, they're both on equally awful off-road tires. So it's equal.
I'm glad I have bad habit of searching random things.
This Channel is full of Mainstream Level of Content.
Driving up the hill was not at all like driving in snow and ice lol. Snow mode will never work to climb a dry dusty hill like that, that's user error in choosing the wrong mode. Automatic or off-road modes are far better test case scenario in future. This is because snow mode lowers your rpm so your acceleration feels dull to prevent slipping once ice for example. You need that acceleration to climb that hill and snow mode won't give it to you.
I can’t wait for you to get your hands on the new Ford Bronco Bandlands with Sasquatch package! Side note I have this exact trim and color option Kia Sorento XLine. I love it for on road everyday use which it’s clearly more suited for. I wish Kia had of gave United States version a dedicated off-road mode like they do in their foreign markets. But I guess they figured most Americans wouldn’t ever take the Sorento off road anyway 😆. Great video,I was really looking forward to this one.
I think the tires make these reviews silly
I had to sign a document when I was signing the loan contract with Chase bank that I would NOT take my Mazda CX 5 off road. Cant remember the.penalty maybe they'd send Vinny to you know make sure I remember next time. Truth is non of these crossovers are designed to go off road.
I'll say one thing that VW cross sport is the best looking crossover/ SUV on the road today.
@@waynerogers6621 the point is it wont last long like any other volkswagen car
The moment I heard "Hill Descent Control" I knew what was going to happen and that it wouldn't be good after the Sorento review from a few weeks ago 😂
Damn! This is exactly the video I was looking for!
Love the vw I have one
I’m curious to see a loaded off-road test. These SUVs are always tested with 1 driver and some camera gear. Who really goes off roading alone? You’re carrying your family wether to a camping ground or just on an adventure. How well would the Kia perform with all 7 seats filled in the same test, likewise how well would the VW perform with all 5 seats filled. I think we need more loaded tests.
That's a good point. Same thing with all other tests like 0-60, braking, slalom, etc, and not just on SUV's but all cars and trucks.
@@chuckwalla2967 yes exactly. Or at the very least these tests should be done on the cars designed as people carriers. So sports cars yes, 1 passenger is enough but SUVs and large sedans I want max capacity make it more realistic. I know for a fact my Subaru is amazing by myself but honestly a little basic when loaded with passengers
What about the highlander AWD? Can you do a video of that one? The non hybrid
This is one of the best car channel. Very detailed and honest test and opinions.
The cross sport dominated this test. Kia owners on suicide watch.
I'd like to see a Honda Passport comparison with another vehicle
Passport is due to get a refresh. New videos after that.
I would go Kia because of the better warranty.
...everyone talks about KIA's/Hyundai's fantastic 10-year warranty; but no one ever discusses getting a warranty repair at year 6 or 7...or even at year 9+. How "easy" is it to get a failed part warrantied at the dealer beyond year 5? Is it just the part that is covered or is labor covered too? What service history must the car have in order for the service manager/dealer not say "owner abuse" caused the failure? Sorry, I have to side with VW on this one. My '04 GTI was nearly flawless.
@@K03sport I have had phenomenal coverage with my Hyundai's & Kia's. They cover parts and labor. They stated the sound I heard was caused by a bad CV joint in the axle and it was 53 miles short of 100,000 miles. They told me the part would be in the following day and go about what I had to do and even though when I would be returning it would be over the 100,000 miles for the replacement of axle shaft it would still be covered under warranty since the issue was found previously to 100,000 miles. Also there were times that they would also give me a loaner vehicle for part of the day or even a couple days if need be. Another thing is you can also pay to extend your 5 years 60,000 miles bumper to bumper out to 10 years 100,000 miles. I have done that on every one and it has always more than paid for itself. $840 and got over $4000 in parts and labor. Hope this was helpful.
@@leighstratiff3652...glad it worked out for you. I want to assume you had good rapport with the dealer and used them for (scheduled) service too. Again, only assuming.
The off road setting of the VW did not get enough opportunity, the VW is much better.
I would like to see the new 22 VW Taos AWD on the same test
Its a little bit better. But not by very much.
You should have a second driver with a few off road driving skills...
Great job & take the Mazed cx 5 over there. Cannot forget Carlene did a great job! ;-)
I'd like that very much
I agree, I want to see the Mazda CX-5 with the regular 6 Speed Automatic!! Maybe tested with a new Tucson? But I'd take whatever (or nothing) as the second car :)
She has a very harsh voice.
Should've used the vr6 atlas
actually i wanna see the video of U 2 making the thumbnail
Noticed fewer and fewer people are interested in watching off-road comnparison videos of vehicles that will never be taken off-road? I have!
The Kia definitely has a more luxurious interior. However, where the Volkswagen misses on interior luxury it more than makes up for with structural integrity. A simple shutting of the doors on the Kia and the Volkswagen exhibit completely different sounds. The overall strength and solid build of the Volkswagen definitely gives it an edge to the cheaply built but luxurious Kia.
Sound is not a good way yo judge structural integrity. That is more a design feature than anything.
@@Minimalist1266 The Atlas is solid. My friend was T-boned in his by an idiot who ran the red light at almost 50 mph. In the car it was him, wife, 4 kids and nanny. They all walked away fine from the accident. He ended up purchasing another one the next day.
@@williekim5297 strong when they work, haha
In Canada we get terrain modes Snow/Mud/ Sand on the same switch as the drive modes, also these UA-cam "car people" test these cars with street tires and they know about it. Most middle class people with decent income will never take a 45000$CAD car that they have on payments for 7 years beyond the back alley of a neighborhood in which they are lost, forget about taking these cars off-road. As for the cars in the vid, the Kia wins all day long with 5year/100,000 km warranty vs VW for almost $50k CAD here with 4y/80,000km, we also have remote starter button built into the key fob from factory so you get a remote starter which costs around 600$ CAD usually to install a Kia 2 way system at a dealer. That 3d row should be viewed as an added bonus, you have it just in case, no adult will sit there in reality. I recently drove 2021 Sorento SX 2.5L turbo and was very impressed being an owner of a 2018 3.3L V6 Sorento EX+, the 21' Sorento has way more torque than my car, it really puts you into the seats and is perfect for the short bursts in town. The new Sorento is lighter and is 10-12% more fuel efficient than my 2018 which gets 8.2L on average / 100km in the City which is good for a V6. I used to be a VW fan but just got tired of wasting money. In Canada the Kia trims are so loaded at 45K range that to get a similar VW you need to spend over 50K
@@williekim5297 I didn't say they are not well build and solid. But you cannot make the assumption car sounds solid so it is solid. Manufacturers pay engineers to make their cars sound a certain way.
Sadly both of these vehicles are street machines, pretty boy vehicles. They are more concerned with designing these to show they are fast, but they are too low to the ground, too much overhang in the back and front, these are good for very flat dirt roads, but off road, NO! Great job on your driving demonstrations and filming. I agree with Karleena I would rather be in control as well. If you are not used to driving off road, don't. Great Job Karleena :) Thanks for sharing.
She was on sport mode in the rock test..
Interesting test for these. I would be much more interested to learn how they compare on the road- ie handling and engines,etc
Maybe because I drive a Kia before but I still prefer the Sorento
It seems like many become interested in off-roading these days But mostly for school-commute & mall crawling Top-drawer video review
Great video and presentation like always.. :D
How tall is Karleena? Over the years it has been difficult to find a vehicle that fits my wife safely (she is 4'11"). Right now we have a 2006 Kia Sedona after a Moose on a suicide mission stepped in front of her back in 2018 totaling our 2016 Escape. The Sedona was only supposed to be a temporary vehicle while insurance was resolved, etc. We fell in love with the little Kia instantly because it fits her perfectly. We would, however, like a newer vehicle but the closest Ford, Dodge, Jeep dealership is two hours away, and all other auto dealers are 5-hours away, making it difficult to justify a two-day drive for a couple tests drive.
these cars not for off roads. what are you doing?
Giving an awesome review of crossover capabilities.
This is not offroad. And these cars are exactly designed for places like this.
Happy 4th of July over there! I really like so much your dedicated dive into the tech of cars to use a bit off the shopping mall parking lanes. And when you are two there in the episodes, the added dialogue certainly creates more fun atmosphere to it. Being myself since 6 months hooked with a Sub Forester e-boxer on the European spec (weak torque honestly, miss my former diesel) i find a lot of pleasure in the ins and outs of Sweden. Responsibly of course, since we have a generous access to the nature here, but not for motor vehicles else than on trails, worth to mention.
An extra LED-array to see the wild crossing the roads in the summer nights is a good measure, when sky is light, but the ground is a dark silhouette. The excellent power distribution has so far helped me NOT hitting the lane separator on a highway in sudden deep snow, I was like the butter in a fry pan, when an invisible hand firmly took me slow and firm back into my own lane, God bless the Engineering office in Tokyo for that! Or pulling out a 30+ year old barn find on locked wheels of an Volvo Amazon from the 60's. When cars were made of solid steel. But intelligent little light wighter Sub pulled her out and up to the awaiting transportation in a waiting Dodge RAM, comfortable on... yes, the shopping mall parking areas! :D Cheers and keep up the good work, you two!
His seething disdain for Sorento is evident in each review he’s done of that vehicle. Why bother if there is that level of bias against a product.
Get any Subaru on that last climb next time. I'm quite curious on how the CVT will cope with it.
Yeah I've seen a lot of videos of Subarus' performance being hindered by their transmissions. Unfortunate. Check out TFL's reviews of the Outback on Gold Mine Hill in CO. Even the VW Atlas outperformed it.
@@lukeheffernan I totally hope Subaru will follow Nissan and reverse back to traditional auto transmission for their most offroad focused models at least
@@tallll70 Me too! CVT makes sense on like an Impreza or maybe their Ascent but not on the Outback, Forester, etc…
Mothra lol it was a Cicada. Just curious if next time you dont use the center clutch button and allow the AWD to manage the climbs for the Sorento, will it do the same or better. Maybe thats why it does not have an off road mode? I m curious for next time. Do the 2022 Sorento SX or above trim. Great videos keep them coming!
Watch it again. He engaged the center lock.
Now, how long til a Bronco video?
Sorento definitely wasn't built for these roads, I think that's why they didn't dare to add off-road mode in it. I'm not sure about the V6 version though (the one we get it here in Dubai), we don't get the 2.5 turbo as you guys, we get either the V6 3.3 or regular 2.5 and it goes 0-60 in around 10 seconds, but I'm still planning to buy it cause it offers alot more than other cars in the segment for less money for my daily drive
Kia/Hyundai drop off-road modes due legal restrictions in the US Market.
@@drivingsports oh wow didn't know that, anyways I'm not going to bother with the AWD, I'm going straight to the front wheel drive automatic transmission, I think that's where the sorento fit best
I finally get to watch this video. It features my man Ryan, Funny and Cute, "Karleena," 2 CUVs. Finally .. A COOL XR4Ti T-shirt!!!! (Unless I'm blind, and can't distinguish the car)
It’s a Ford Sierra Cossie. You are right that the Sierra was sold in the US as a Merkeur.
@@drivingsports That's right, a Cosworth.. Awesome company!!!
Thanks for reminding me, Ryan..
I want to see ivtm4 against this terrain
If they only allowed 18 inch rims which is obviously more practical for awd on the sorento. 20 inch rims is stupid without giving customers a free option to choose a more practical 18 inch rims. Atleast w that size rim you could change to a good all terrain tire
That's how it sold, so that's how it has to be tested. After all, nobody changes the tires to test their Jeeps or their RR.
I wish she had a lot more knowledge about the vehicles and terrain.
You explain soo much better 😁 with what we want hear about the vehicles and how they perform.
Thanks from Poland
I have a Sorento and the SMART mode is not it. Another UA-camr goes into detail about it but the test should have been done on either Comfort or Sport.
Kia told us that Smart was the right mode. That's what we're basing it on.
Great video Ryan and Karleena!! Please do more video's like this. I have a 2021 Pilot and I feel like my Pilot would have done better??? Thanks!
I don‘t know the sense of using „snow“ or „mud“ on sandy ground…
Total gimmick as we can clearly see by these test. As fake as the plastic skid plates.
@@krane15 the word „test“ seems to be a fake itself, because there is no sense at all in trying programs in situations they are not made for
do you have a place that mimics Pismo Beach to test these AWD systems?
So basically keep them both on Pavement?
I don’t feel like smart mode was right for this!
Hey Ryan, MORE Karleena = more views and more time watching. Your welcome 😜
well said
...truth
Why wasn’t the vw in off road mode instead of sport like she said
Am I the only one or does anybody else dislike these offreoad "tests" with stock tires? No wonder they fail.
Do you go skiing with sandals?
The vehicles are sold as off-road capable so the tires have to be stock.
If vw still sold the Touareg here. Those fools… it beat both those things without breaking a sweat
Actually the Touareg is similar to the Sorento. It began as a competent off-road vehicles but lost those roots long ago. All the technology that made it a challenging off-roader (height adjustable suspension, middle and rear lockers, etc) are no more
I honestly think that you gave the vw less of a chance before deciding to give it momentum. You have done your rock trail with this and it did it more easily, and 4motion needs a bit of slippage and rpm to work, just an honest opinion, great video and good chemistry with karlena, fun videos you do together!
My old 2005 Hyundai Terracan would go around this track much better than these two vehicles but i wouldn't go as far as saying it was a better car.I'm sure they are very comfy to take a long drive in though where cars and trucks designed to go around countryside as this aren't so great for long distances.You don't see Tour de France riders using mountain bikes if you get my drift.
Hey Ryan, will you be getting your hands on the Golf 8 anytime soon?
I'm a fan of all your videos but these two vehicles off-road is very bland I think the last guy was right a video of on road handling maybe?
Great video
did you guys test the 4runner nightshade?
How is even more throttle a trick?
Every Kia/Hyundai product you've taken off-road fails at basic things, either the Traction control has no idea what to do or the CVT and the clutch overheats, the computer gets confused, and stutters, can't imagine what would happen to a family driving that Kia on snow/ice...there is a reason Volkswagen is the number car maker in the world, flashy designs will only get you so far.
We need more of Karleena shots))) Sorry Ryine
Karleena wins the soda, then immediately shakes it lol :-P
Neither of the two. I enjoy my old school 4.0 v6 4runner for off roading.
Hi nice to see girls and ladies can go for offroading and are capable of doing off-road. Please upload more of woman testing 4x4 offroad. Thanks for a reply
Does this dude ever respond to comments? This sucks my state "Seattle Washington" does not get this suv i want this so bad but not going to oregon to get it.. ill get the xse, i am just hoping this model can go off roading not crazy off road but for camping and overlanding. how is the xse hybrid good for this?
I answer all the time. But I’m not sure why you posted the same question over three completely different videos? Also, we took the RAV4 hybrid on the trail.. if that’s what you’re asking. The video is in our back-catalog if you look for it.
How would Toyota Highlander do on the trail compared to VW?
The previous model would fail. The latest one with double-clutch coupling in the rear axle would do better. Check the SUV battle channel for details.
Being in any vehicle with Karleena would make me smile 😊
Simp
Not many owners of these two vehicles will ever take them off-road.
So not the point.
Can you make a workshop for a car? infinity QX 56
You know I really like that Kia Sorento but I'm so disappointed in watching these videos that that these crossovers have fake all wheel drive system that's fake I mean a jeep has a real four wheel drive system where it actually sends power to the back and is moving forward this is terrible but I guess maybe this is made for city folks
I never expected them to be anywhere near a Jeep rock climbing capable, but these tests weren't that hard. One wheel off the ground should not have been a total struggle.
These are hopeless AWD systems. They might as well do without the system and save weight and gas while feel more power on the road where these will primarily by rolling on. Like the Kia dash more
Put it in snow mode not smart, but that is just my opinion
Great video! To really highlight the difference that wheel travel and tires make, the "Up the Trail" section at 8:00 can easily be traversed in 2WD by my 2019 4Runner shod with Goodyear Wrangler Ultratterrains. Sometimes older tech is best. :)
The Kia looks good but somehow I knew this would be the result. They just aren’t refined enough in any spect except interesting designs. VW all the way.
$47k for 235 hp. No thanks!
Carolina driving skills sucked other test drives I'd seen the car did better. "It's on sport mode" when it was supposed to be on off road and the snow mode just start it on off road mode just because the other car didn't have off road ....blah blah blah
Skoda Octavia Scout 2021 would be nice :)
He's American, they don't have Skoda there, only Volkswagen/Audi/Porsche from V.A.G.
Wrong country ..
@@jonlosito2004 unfortunately 🙁
is this fair test? the car has off-road mode vs the car has not built for off road. Not fair. May be he is german blood. The guy kept coaching her as soon as the output was not what he expected lol.
Having a mode setting doesn’t make it an off-roader. Also, the Sorento outside the US has an off-road mode, with otherwise identical hardware.
Does Onex XT have same awd as base Outback?
Yes, only difference is the Onyx has dual-mode X Mode.
+1 Like for Karleena. Ryan, can you do a similar test, but while towing something? Sure, neither vehicle is rated very high, but how are their towing manners? Can they pull a mini-camper or a pair of personal watercraft decently? With these "as-tested" prices, I am ASSuming they came with a tow package and hitch. Which one would you want to tow with?
You should test a sherp
whaaaaaat 🤯 no no no kia sorento is the best