I was about to tell you that your videos work really well with the music you've chosen but now that I know you made the music I also have to say that it's really good.
He probably figured from the knockback trajectory that Zain would be right above the uppermost platform and he wouldn't need to slide off it to get to him, so he went with the quicker option to climb up. It's stuff like that which forces the enemy into a certain path -- even map geometry can do this -- that allows prediction plays to be made no matter the game.
@@RipleySawzen In this case the barely is referring to how he extended the combo, and considering he had 3 frames I would agree that he barely extended the combo
Honestly, hearing that wavelanding has 10 frames of landing lag is a major mystery solved for me. The explainers I found for it over 15 years ago said you could do actions instantly, and I could see plainly that nothing I was performing out of wavelanding was instant.
@@littlemrdoom5997 not to most people. its quite dehumanizing to call another human a "creature". I get you have your own definition of it or what not, but to snap back to reality, its rude to call someone that.
Man you're so talented. Having extensive knowledge of Melee's competitive scene, great graphic design skill, amazing editing style, and made music that slaps.
The momentum argument here is very clear. As someone who's been in taht situation a lot, the regained confidence of "no, I know what he's doing, focus" can and does change everything when you need it.
Absolutely phenomenal breakdown. Just recently started play Melee (Yoshi) and been mostly practicing movement and tech skill. Accidentally did this a couple times and wasn't sure what happened. Awesome to have such a complete breakdown and practical applications to boot!
aMSa single handedly moving yoshi like halfway up the tier list, invent new tech, and then not even winning after doing so has to be the most insane thing I've seen in melee for a long time
Great video! The title is super click baity though. Implying that amsa discovered some new groundbreaking yoshi tech and then it just ends up being an aerial interrupt
It still amazes me that amsa sqeezed a tournament win out of yoshi. He's the low tier god that we always wanted but never got until now because of the combination of amsa being willing to put blood, sweat, and tears into yoshi, and yoshi having the sauce to squeeze out in the first place. There have always been the renegades trying to get low tiers some results, but most of the time, the characters just didn't the juice to squeeze. Sorry for using the word "squeeze" so much. No better words off the top of my head for mix ups that would make the read better. I'm not going to the thesaurus for a yt comment.
agree that its super cool based off of where yoshi was considered 15 years ago, but in today's game yoshi is a top 7 or 8 character flat out. has only 3 outright losing matchups and is one of 2-3 character that can be considered a + matchup into marth. he's hardly a low (or even a mid) tier anymore.
@@oscarguzman3017 I mean he's the top representative yeah, but UCF was a major factor in yoshi being relevant. Shield dropping is essential to his kit, along with the fact that melee as a whole became more technically proficient. No one in 2008 was parrying or using double jump armor correctly, but gold 3 yoshis do those regularly now.
One thing I don’t see a lot of yoshis do is an arial interrupt with Z so they instantly go into lightshield on land (if they hold it). It’s a pretty nice mixup and if you get hit you just slide off and get another mixup.
Still consider you the best editoral youtuber on the planet. Impressiv level of Frame by Frame details like the clock-ticking at 1:17. Really creative and clean.
Absolutely wonderful video. I love how clearly you showed the differences in frames between the two techniques. It made it really clear what exactly is going on. I think it is fair to mention that if Amsa had used the wave dash landing, then Zain would need a frame perfect input to escape, and therefore it is likely he still would have been hit, but your point about the difference between a true combo and a potential combo still stands.
I was going to comment that the editing is always so insanely great, but I was also using Shazam to try to figure out what the song in the background was. I should've just watched to the end first haha absolutely wild you made the music too!
The level of play that has been achieved by todays top players really feels like watching art. Decades on and the game is still being pushed further all the time, melee is beautiful. Fantastic video
want to let u know that I sent this video to one of my friends and he knows nothing about melee but still thinks your videos are awesome. He even listened to all ur music on spotify. Keep it up. Btw we would love to have ur music on yt music as well :)
awesome music, I started watching the video and immediately my first thought was "whos the artist? I wanna listen to the whole thing" only to quickly realize you wrote it yourself! really cool man
Melee is insane! Imagine looking in a crystal ball 20 years ago about who would emerge a top melee player.. and the clouds revealed a red Yoshi. Used to be considered bottom tier, but boy is he uniquely and insanely good.
Dude, half of this is Greek to me and I can’t understand people computing frame perfect movements but hot dog your level of explanation and production (including the music) is perf👌🏽
Good luck with it. It's an awesome game that only becomes more and more fun the better you get at it. Just remember to have fun, that's the most important thing.
oh my god. We're getting down to frames now. I hope other characters get this level of optimization from their mains, too, I always felt at least half the cast had some crazy unearthed potential that could shift the tier list like tectonic plates.
So why is Yoshi able do perfect horizontal wave lands out of his double jump? I was kind of hoping the aspects of this tech being unique to Yoshi would be elaborated on lol
A-cancelling in ult is something a lot of top players dont use, but its the same concept. Ive got dozens of clips using it in situations like this in ESmash just walking folks to the blast zone 😂
thanks for the support on the music everyone :)
check it out now on spotify!!
open.spotify.com/album/66NPw9a07JbFmWMQFXtblF?si=HeK40SACQqOVPDeeAH5rSw
music makes this unwatchable tbh
I was about to tell you that your videos work really well with the music you've chosen but now that I know you made the music I also have to say that it's really good.
The fact that aMSa has the presence of mind to choose the marginal frame save and barely extend a combo is just unreal. Thanks for pointing it out
He probably figured from the knockback trajectory that Zain would be right above the uppermost platform and he wouldn't need to slide off it to get to him, so he went with the quicker option to climb up.
It's stuff like that which forces the enemy into a certain path -- even map geometry can do this -- that allows prediction plays to be made no matter the game.
No such thing as marginal save in a game where every frame counts.
Barely extend the combo? You mean taking a stock?
@@RipleySawzen In this case the barely is referring to how he extended the combo, and considering he had 3 frames I would agree that he barely extended the combo
he probably practiced exactly this a shitload
Dude can I just say i love that you give your videos their own original soundtrack it makes watching these over and over again so much fun
for this video, i love that he tells about amsa gaining confidence and momentum on the uplifting part of the music
magtea!!!!
@@octosmicim everywhere
@@magtea3836 Veemo pfp :3
I was just about to comment about how much his music slaps too lol
Honestly, hearing that wavelanding has 10 frames of landing lag is a major mystery solved for me. The explainers I found for it over 15 years ago said you could do actions instantly, and I could see plainly that nothing I was performing out of wavelanding was instant.
same! 16 years later the mystery is solved
Amsa is one of my favorite creatures playing melee, dude single handedly moved a character at least 10 spots up the tier list
dude he's not a creature, he's japanese.
“creatures” is crazy
@@enemyskill4286 it's affectionate
@@littlemrdoom5997 not to most people. its quite dehumanizing to call another human a "creature". I get you have your own definition of it or what not, but to snap back to reality, its rude to call someone that.
@@sentpain8354 I interpreted it as calling him inhuman. The stuff he does is crazy cool and feels like a human couldn't pull it off.
Man you're so talented. Having extensive knowledge of Melee's competitive scene, great graphic design skill, amazing editing style, and made music that slaps.
so true. The graphics are amazing and made it so much easier to follow along.
He don't miss
this man's the steph curry of melee content creators
He rlly dont
He misses a lot, its kind of inherent to yoshi's egg edgeguards
20%+ of likes/views. That is a whole heck of a lot. And well deserved.
@@PotofGlue It’s suppressing fire, it’s not a miss if you were never trying to hit
The momentum argument here is very clear. As someone who's been in taht situation a lot, the regained confidence of "no, I know what he's doing, focus" can and does change everything when you need it.
OMG by FAR the best visualization of hitstun and comboing I've ever seen, that was awesome!
your visual descriptions are unmatched, like incredibly well explained
¡Gracias!
Absolutely phenomenal breakdown. Just recently started play Melee (Yoshi) and been mostly practicing movement and tech skill. Accidentally did this a couple times and wasn't sure what happened.
Awesome to have such a complete breakdown and practical applications to boot!
aMSa single handedly moving yoshi like halfway up the tier list, invent new tech, and then not even winning after doing so has to be the most insane thing I've seen in melee for a long time
Great video! The title is super click baity though. Implying that amsa discovered some new groundbreaking yoshi tech and then it just ends up being an aerial interrupt
Pretty much my thought.
yeah i agree and was struggling with this - any suggestions?
@@MeleeMoments..maybe something like "The Obscure FASTER Waveland"
@@MeleeMomentshow saving frames is more important than ever in melee (seems too long)
@@MeleeMoments maybe something how how 3 frames won him the tournament "how 3 frames can change the momentem?
It's crazy that the game boils down to the ability of execution and whether there's time to do the things, but it is still so deep
love the editing on these videos
Didn't realize you made the music too. Love them!
It still amazes me that amsa sqeezed a tournament win out of yoshi. He's the low tier god that we always wanted but never got until now because of the combination of amsa being willing to put blood, sweat, and tears into yoshi, and yoshi having the sauce to squeeze out in the first place. There have always been the renegades trying to get low tiers some results, but most of the time, the characters just didn't the juice to squeeze. Sorry for using the word "squeeze" so much. No better words off the top of my head for mix ups that would make the read better. I'm not going to the thesaurus for a yt comment.
agree that its super cool based off of where yoshi was considered 15 years ago, but in today's game yoshi is a top 7 or 8 character flat out. has only 3 outright losing matchups and is one of 2-3 character that can be considered a + matchup into marth. he's hardly a low (or even a mid) tier anymore.
@@TheAmazingMrSloop
Amsa brought yoshi up the tier list all by his damn self. That shits nuts.
@@oscarguzman3017 I mean he's the top representative yeah, but UCF was a major factor in yoshi being relevant. Shield dropping is essential to his kit, along with the fact that melee as a whole became more technically proficient. No one in 2008 was parrying or using double jump armor correctly, but gold 3 yoshis do those regularly now.
Yoshi is like if Fox, Falco, or Falcon were actually cool characters
man i LOVE your wavedash explanation graphic, it’s so goddamn clean. It’d probably be cuttable into a killer short, too!
We live in the Donkey Kong golden age.
One thing I don’t see a lot of yoshis do is an arial interrupt with Z so they instantly go into lightshield on land (if they hold it). It’s a pretty nice mixup and if you get hit you just slide off and get another mixup.
As a Yoshi main, this video its poggers, counting the fact that you compose your own music as well! Just... POGGERS.
Still consider you the best editoral youtuber on the planet. Impressiv level of Frame by Frame details like the clock-ticking at 1:17.
Really creative and clean.
I found this one day while playing with one of the characters but i never imagined it had a name, could be used for combat, or would be useful at all
Fantastic video. These quick, well edited and intricately explained videos from single stocks are some of my favorite melee content on the platform.
Love these breakdowns because they analyze the microcosm of a moment in melee so well, and with such great visuals
And he's back! This channel has been a delight to watch and follow for some time now, so here's hoping you're doing okay Fraser!
i'm sure you can tell by all the comments you always get on these but man u are really good at this. thanks for sharing
This guy making his own music and graphic design at a pro level and decides to channel his efforts into making melee content for us nerds to enjoy
I never thought I’d see Melee players abusing AI in their matches.
This is a perfect video. From the music to the visuals to the message, everything in here coaleses.
Absolutely wonderful video. I love how clearly you showed the differences in frames between the two techniques. It made it really clear what exactly is going on.
I think it is fair to mention that if Amsa had used the wave dash landing, then Zain would need a frame perfect input to escape, and therefore it is likely he still would have been hit, but your point about the difference between a true combo and a potential combo still stands.
Amsa would also need a frame perfect up tilt to make the jump out frame perfect so it makes a big difference
This is the greatest Melee Channel in youtube history
this video was incredibly well made and was very fun to watch
Original music, goated editing, this is some quality content im subscribing for
I was going to comment that the editing is always so insanely great, but I was also using Shazam to try to figure out what the song in the background was. I should've just watched to the end first haha absolutely wild you made the music too!
This is so cool; so much depth from such an old game, amazing.
You don't miss man, good stuff.
Why the melee community has two of the highest quality channels in all of youtube I'll never know but I'll take it
how have i only just discovered that you're fraserwave, i love your music dude
Love your style man - really high quality craft in your videos, i especially love the was you weave in the storyline of the game. Keep it up!!
Melee players might be a different species
I cant stand how much I love these videos, actually the most underrated content
Nice arrangement, bro!
The level of play that has been achieved by todays top players really feels like watching art. Decades on and the game is still being pushed further all the time, melee is beautiful. Fantastic video
Perfect musical accompaniment!
Yooo love the content not a big melee player but i used to play it back in the day. Love the informative format of how godly pros are.
The soundtracks on these videos makes them so beyond good
Crazy how much goes into one single play that happens so fast!
Almost as crazy as the quality of the video about it!!
Your editing on your videos are alwayssoooooooogoooooood!!! I mean STELLAR job man!! I love your videos......
I have found a gem of a little channel
want to let u know that I sent this video to one of my friends and he knows nothing about melee but still thinks your videos are awesome. He even listened to all ur music on spotify. Keep it up. Btw we would love to have ur music on yt music as well :)
awesome music, I started watching the video and immediately my first thought was "whos the artist? I wanna listen to the whole thing" only to quickly realize you wrote it yourself! really cool man
this man is actually a goat. Keep this up bro. U will get big in no time. Also music was 🔥
Melee is insane! Imagine looking in a crystal ball 20 years ago about who would emerge a top melee player.. and the clouds revealed a red Yoshi. Used to be considered bottom tier, but boy is he uniquely and insanely good.
Mate I LOVE your music. The syncopation and chords are so incredibly tasty!
dude your music is AMAZING, holy crap. thank you for sharing 💖
so he did ferps tech with yoshi. truly unheard of
I really like the music, it adds a lot of momentum to the video.
It reminds me of the high jumping flop - squish up to get over the pole
Dude, half of this is Greek to me and I can’t understand people computing frame perfect movements but hot dog your level of explanation and production (including the music) is perf👌🏽
Man you nail every artistic medium you take on, great work and can’t wait for the song to come to Spotify
love the graphics, great work
editing is pristine
Great video, would have never even noticed such a small optimization
Everything about your videos is so clean. Inspiring quality
theobald i didnt know you watched melee lmao
@@timnoskill melee fucking slaps bro how could you not
This channel is a mix of asumsaus and turndownforwalt, and I love it!
20eggseggs has finally arrived…
Your content makes me wanna try getting good at melee. It's compact, well explained, well edited. It's a treat
Good luck with it. It's an awesome game that only becomes more and more fun the better you get at it. Just remember to have fun, that's the most important thing.
Great video and great music! It really fits your videos
The other new tech I feel like aMSa wasn't doing before is using the super armor of the double jump to punish recoveries like that. That's crazy.
I’m loving this new era of melee content
your editing is next level
Man, your videos are literally fucking ART. Leagues, I mean LEAGUES beyond most every other smash content creator out there. Too fucking good.
this video is so clean my god
all time great video in terms of production value damn
Oooooh I was so excited to find out who's song it was for this video, and then BAM you make music too?? Insane. Love it
oh my god. We're getting down to frames now. I hope other characters get this level of optimization from their mains, too, I always felt at least half the cast had some crazy unearthed potential that could shift the tier list like tectonic plates.
the quality of your videos is insane
remember that people thought this character was D-E tier in this game's early days
These videos are just visually and quality wise really really good
Loving the A+ melee content you keep pumping out
That’s why he’s the GOAT
You make THE best Melee videos. It's not even close.
you not only do you have the cleanest editing in the game but you also make your own music?
So why is Yoshi able do perfect horizontal wave lands out of his double jump? I was kind of hoping the aspects of this tech being unique to Yoshi would be elaborated on lol
masterful music score and an even more entertaining video, always looking forward to these
great video, great topic, great music, great channel
Another banger of a video, keep up the amazing work
I've now subbed. Just a really competent video, wanna see more
Cool to see that tech in tourney
I found out about it way back in PM
Didn't know it was a thing in Melee
the goat hath uploaded.
babe wake up melee moments just uploaded, its time to watch good content
Dope content, can't wait for the next video!
"amsa got the crowd back on his side" is such a silly thing to say. crowd's always on his side, he's amsa!
Another great video. Love everything you do
you have a great music taste so i'm really excited to check out your music!
You know how funny it would be if this somehow led to Yoshi dethroning Fox as the best character?
A-cancelling in ult is something a lot of top players dont use, but its the same concept. Ive got dozens of clips using it in situations like this in ESmash just walking folks to the blast zone 😂