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  • I left some stuff out. Like the fact that she comes from yeast money.

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  • @ZacDonald
    @ZacDonald 2 роки тому +92

    I remember a few experts in the field talking about how they immediately assumed it was a scam, but justifiably so. Theranos was promising to do more tests, with less blood, faster, and with a small countertop appliance sized device. They were willing to believe or at least consider a break-through to allow a device to achieve one or two of those promises, but four immediately set off scam alarms in their heads.
    And a lot of people are like, oh well, rich people and investors got screwed, not a big deal. But the promise of Theranos sucked funding away from every other competitor in the field trying to make better blood tests, slowing down progress for everyone including patients that could benefit from better tests.

    • @mrallelectriccarlunacy
      @mrallelectriccarlunacy 2 роки тому +5

      That and let’s remember that a number of folks were allegedly affected by the inaccurate results they shared.

    • @nicholasthon973
      @nicholasthon973 2 роки тому +3

      Yes. All the professionals in the field rolled their eyes at her freshman level comments and ideas. It was clear she had no idea what she was doing.

  • @me0101001000
    @me0101001000 2 роки тому +69

    I want to say that it was a scam from the start. When you want to develop any technology and make sure it works well, not only do you hire experts, you also have to convince the experts first. She didn't do that. She went straight to the big names with the big wallets. And considering the way she behaved in the company, there was something off from the start.
    I'm biased, admittedly, because this is my area of work, and I've got a chip on my shoulder, but I still think she knew.

    • @sunshine3914
      @sunshine3914 2 роки тому +6

      Yep, she worked really hard to deceive.

    • @spacedogn7668
      @spacedogn7668 2 роки тому

      Aku, question, totally off base from this video. But are you Finnish? Just curious as i knew a Aku 35 years ago when i lived in Sudan. lol Sorry for the random question, but I've never come across someone with that name.

    • @me0101001000
      @me0101001000 2 роки тому

      @@spacedogn7668 nah, not Finnish. Sorry mate.

    • @spacedogn7668
      @spacedogn7668 2 роки тому +1

      @@me0101001000 all good bro, i just only ever met someone with your name once in my life..

    • @vnikyt
      @vnikyt 2 роки тому +4

      Exactly this. All the rationalizing in the world can’t change the fact that she set up a scam. One could say she may have briefly thought at some point that she could patch something together at some point, but she knew what she was doing.
      @Joe Scott, we can try to stretch definitions to fit many things, but nothing you do is a scam, hon

  • @DanEllis
    @DanEllis 2 роки тому +109

    Your voice sounds fine, dude. Everyone hates the sound of their voice when they hear it externally instead of partially conducted through their skull.

    • @Hooyahfish
      @Hooyahfish 2 роки тому +5

      It’s because you don’t hear your voice through the air, you hear it through your bones.

    • @DanEllis
      @DanEllis 2 роки тому +4

      @@Hooyahfish You do hear it through the air too

    • @crooker2
      @crooker2 2 роки тому +1

      ... Until they get used to it. What people don't think about is... Their voice is their signature. Like it or not, their voice is what identifies them. Some of the greatest actors had voices that weren't all that great. Marlon Brando, Steve Buscemi, Joe Pesci, etc... But they used the uniqueness of their voice to carve a niche for themselves.
      Love who you are and make the most of it. Change what you can change (if you want to) and accept that which you can't change. :)

    • @markoconnell804
      @markoconnell804 2 роки тому +2

      Nothing wrong with how your voice sounds. I think it adds to your channel. So worry far less about it and do content which you enjoy.

    • @Can_non69
      @Can_non69 2 роки тому

      I said the same last video when he commented on his looks

  • @ProjectDarkWolf
    @ProjectDarkWolf 2 роки тому +6

    I actually found this more interesting than the main video itself. Hearing Joe's personal thoughts on the subject is more intellectually stimulating than simply listening to the story alone.

  • @seantiz
    @seantiz 2 роки тому +22

    I would alter the question a bit to ask, WHEN did she realize it wasn’t possible. Even if she naively believed it at the beginning, at some point she had to wake up.

    • @360.Tapestry
      @360.Tapestry 2 роки тому +2

      "the turn"

    • @Talenel
      @Talenel 2 роки тому

      I'm fairly certain that industry experts with degrees and actual qualifications had told her from the beginning that what she was trying to do was literally impossible, that there simply isn't enough blood in a drop to run some of the tests they were claiming.
      But no, this college dropout insisted that she knew better than the experts.

    • @bzuidgeest
      @bzuidgeest 2 роки тому +1

      She realized right in the beginning when a professor told her it could not be done. And then another one and another one. There was no question from the start.

  • @The_Original_Brad_Miller
    @The_Original_Brad_Miller 2 роки тому +3

    I really like this format for the TMI channel, it's like 2 friends sitting down and bullshitting together. It allows you to personalize the story and say things you couldn't or wouldn't want to on a more public venue.
    I agree with your assessment, I think she was a true believer that hung on to her beliefs too long.

  • @gptiede
    @gptiede 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Joe. Two things. I am a professor, and I often have to fill a lecture hall with my voice. At the beginning of Fall semesters (just two days ago actually) my throat always 'gets tired' or hurts a bit after doing so. Especially so if I have two back to back classes, so I have to do it for two+ hours. As the semester goes on, my throat gets used to it and it does not hurt any more. This is a common thing, that many faculty experience. So, I don't think you have to worry if this happens to you.
    Secondly, I have been a fan of yours for many years, and I have always thought your voice matches your 'every man' appearance very well. Most people think their voice sounds funny when they hear a recording of themselves. So unless you somehow are getting complaints that are limiting you professionally, again don't worry about it.

  • @RyanEmmett
    @RyanEmmett 2 роки тому +6

    The word "scam" is sometimes used inappropriately, but here it's totally justified. I'm enjoying these Extra Thoughts videos! P.S. your voice is absolutely fine.

  • @PreloadedMind
    @PreloadedMind 2 роки тому +3

    I do really like these "thoughts about" videos. They help me remember what the previous video was about, instead of it just passing through the ears like every other video I watch. Plus, it's like listening to the director's commentary of a movie which is usually a good insight to the mind of a creator.

  • @MrHhkjhkj
    @MrHhkjhkj 2 роки тому +35

    I don't know if you will see this but there is nothing wrong with your voice... I feel like it suits you well and I find it somewhat calming.
    If you want help avoiding overdoing it I get it but otherwise it seems like one of those insecurities that we all have about ourselves that others are surprised about when you open up about it.
    Love your channel, miss the mystery/strange stuff.

    • @michaelginever732
      @michaelginever732 2 роки тому +1

      Ditto that.

    • @jamesd.wheeler5664
      @jamesd.wheeler5664 2 роки тому +1

      I've always liked your voice, Joe. But please do talk to a voice coach, or better yet, an ENT doctor. Vocal cord nodules are totally a thing, and you're at risk for them with how much you use your voice for work. The longer you wait, the more likely you are to be looking at having to not talk for a few months.

    • @finneire1282
      @finneire1282 2 роки тому

      I know people who talk for a living - for the most part - and I've heard them lose their voice for days or weeks on end. Squeaky and barely audible.
      A voice coach is not a bad idea.

    • @annakeye
      @annakeye 2 роки тому

      Yeah, it's fine but now that he's mentioned Kermit, I can hear it. I'll get over it. I mean, as Joe intimated, at least he doesn't sound like Alex Jones.
      Rest assured Joe, if your voice was weird, you would've been told about in the comments many times.

    • @WatanabeNoTsuna.
      @WatanabeNoTsuna. 2 роки тому +1

      I listen to his videos to fall asleep. His, Vsauce, Kurzgesagt, Qxir, Plainly Difficult, etc...

  • @BiscuitLazers44
    @BiscuitLazers44 2 роки тому +1

    All I gotta say about your voice insecurities is that you have become one of my favorite UA-camrs to listen to speak, let alone watch. It’s incredibly easy to sit back and be relaxed as you tell me about things I didn’t know about and it’s often my favorite part of the morning.

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog 2 роки тому +34

    I've done a ton of debunking videos on tech ideas like this, and many are True Believers. But some are credible engineers who know their idea is impractical and they are just looking to flip the company to a bigger investor. I think some of the blame has to go to the engineers hired, as they are just content to take home to big startup pay cheque until the wheels fall of the billy cart.
    Look up Meredith Perry's talk some time to get an insight into the wild thinking of a startup tech entrepreneur, it's, wow.

    • @VeI_2.0
      @VeI_2.0 2 роки тому +1

      Audiophoolery, one of muh favorite videos

  • @arceanhound
    @arceanhound Рік тому

    I like these TMI videos because we get to hear your thoughts on why you make your videos and that part is really interesting, thanks for making these!

  • @AustinKnowsStuff
    @AustinKnowsStuff 2 роки тому +21

    Joe absolutely love the little behind the scenes episodes. Sketches are great as well! Keep up the great work, so proud to see we’re you’ve gone!

    • @WatanabeNoTsuna.
      @WatanabeNoTsuna. 2 роки тому +1

      I just love when the sketch is related to the subject of the video, which was not the case with this one... 😕

    • @AustinKnowsStuff
      @AustinKnowsStuff 2 роки тому

      @@WatanabeNoTsuna. that’s incorrect - he lowered his voice because Elizabeth Holmes did the same thing. Because studies showed people give more respect to those with lower voices

    • @WatanabeNoTsuna.
      @WatanabeNoTsuna. 2 роки тому +1

      @@AustinKnowsStuff Oh, yeah, that's right! I guess I forgot that small detail of the video!

  • @elizabethsullivan7176
    @elizabethsullivan7176 2 роки тому

    I little levity is important to keep one's sanity in check, so is getting one's thoughts out rather than keep them rattling around in the mind. I've learned this from experience, having suffered from anxiety and panic attacks for nearly 40 years (starting when I was a teen and couldn't get to sleep at night because my mind and panic attacks were pretty much nonstop). Also, if you need to take a break sometimes then go ahead, we don't need you getting burned out.
    I like the sound of your voice, judging by the way I've watched so many of your videos over the past several years. I would definitely join your Patreon if I could afford it, but I rarely have enough money to last through the month.
    Love your channels and much respect for you. ✌

  • @markmuir7338
    @markmuir7338 2 роки тому +4

    This was really useful. When you cover a story I'm already quite familiar with, I find it interesting to know why you chose to focus on some points while others are left out.
    The haunting thing about Theranos was the extent to which Holmes went to keep the secret: hiring private security to threaten and harass staff who tried to leak information, or sounded like they were unhappy with the disconnect between the reality of the product and the image of it given to the public.
    I don't feel sorry for the investors. They failed to do their due diligence. Apparently her family's neighbor gave the initial X million dollar investment - essentially as a favor. He was sufficiently well known that other investors just jumped on board, with each assuming the others had looked into the potential feasibility of the technology. But nobody did!

  • @blueshift22
    @blueshift22 2 роки тому

    “It’s the disease of thinking that a really great idea is 90% of the work. And if you just tell all these other people ‘here’s this great idea,’ then of course they can go off and make it happen.
    And the problem with that is that there’s just a tremendous amount of craftsmanship in between a great idea and a great product.”
    - Steve Jobs

  • @TaraIncognita
    @TaraIncognita 2 роки тому

    I think posting your additional thoughts on this channel is a great idea. I love videos like this where you can add tidbits that wouldn't make the final cut of your normal channel due to time or tangent et cetera. I always enjoy your videos, even the experimental stuff.

  • @mattbarker3613
    @mattbarker3613 2 роки тому

    I like these. I play you in the kitchen while I clean and it's nice to listen to and not feel like I need to be looking at the screen for fear of missing something. 👍

  • @Slug42069
    @Slug42069 2 роки тому

    I watch your videos for my whole day at work. I think your voice is soothing and great voice for your content. Keep up the good work Joe.

  • @Gr8tvid
    @Gr8tvid 2 роки тому

    Joe, don’t doubt yourself. You handled the topic with journalistic integrity.

  • @youhaveinfinitevalue5755
    @youhaveinfinitevalue5755 2 роки тому

    Funny, your voice and manner of speaking is why we subscribe to your channel. It’s part of your personality that we enjoy.

  • @JaldaboathIrghen
    @JaldaboathIrghen 2 роки тому

    Oh. My. God! Kermit on a hangover! I can hear it so clearly now that you said it that I can't believe I missed it!
    :P
    Please keep doing these follow ups, this was a treat!

  • @mrallelectriccarlunacy
    @mrallelectriccarlunacy 2 роки тому +3

    I can’t believe I haven’t watched that video yet. It’s a great subject I’ve binged on in the past and you make good videos. It’s go time.

  • @ElanLift
    @ElanLift 2 роки тому

    It's nice to see your reflection on the main channel's content, and address all things in a casual way. Nice.

  • @nobleharvey9935
    @nobleharvey9935 2 роки тому

    I really like your voice! It's the reason I subscribed. Soothing and fun and honorable. Especially when you say "love you guys, take care! " feels snuggly when I hear it from you! Love ❤️ all you do! (And say!)

  • @bennyrees123
    @bennyrees123 2 роки тому

    Love the TMI videos. Great to have an extra bit of chat about the subject in greater detail.

  • @jamesbaxter7227
    @jamesbaxter7227 2 роки тому

    Bro your stuff is top notch. keep going. Don't let anyone or anything get in your way. You, WE can do this.

  • @svfirefly7424
    @svfirefly7424 2 роки тому +2

    TMI is alive and well! Love ya Joe

  • @kimboosan
    @kimboosan 2 роки тому

    I really love these "dvd commentary"-style vids about the vids! Please continue!

  • @akalantaritaft
    @akalantaritaft 2 роки тому

    FYI, I love your videos and your voice helps a lot as it matches the tone of your videos a lot.

  • @ritual64
    @ritual64 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Joe, love this kind of follow up video. Please keep up the great work and just so you know, your voice sounds fine 👍

  • @AdamSchaumberg
    @AdamSchaumberg 2 роки тому

    Ah man, now I'm only going to hear hang-over Kermit all the time now. :D I find your voice soothing. Keep up the great videos!

  • @arnoldevans1217
    @arnoldevans1217 2 роки тому

    I really like your comments here on TMI. I find it particularly good when you do a bit of a "behind the scenes" on a video you posted on your main channel. (like the Theranos video)

  • @TristouMTL
    @TristouMTL 2 роки тому

    Do keep making these TMI -- I like the unstructured approach that allows you to give your thoughts and give more information that didn't make it into the main video. And your voice is very pleasant and relaxing -- if it were as bad as you think it is, would so many people keep coming back to listen to you?

  • @NickDusting
    @NickDusting 2 роки тому +1

    A brilliant couple of videos on a fascinating subject. One thing that's worth adding: field cross-over ignorance.
    Being an expert in one field doesn't make you an expert in another; I worked in professional analytical science for a decade but that didn't make me a physicist in spite of using some very high tech analytical machines.
    She may well have had the idea, then had the belief that money could solve everything... and very very soon someone who actually knew what they were talking about would have told them it wasn't possible (I'd have liked to know the rate of high-level scientist job turnover and the ndas they signed whilst the company was operating). Everything for me points to her seeing the vision without the reality from a very early stage.

  • @seansmith1457
    @seansmith1457 2 роки тому

    True story: Kermit drank vodka to get his voice where it was. Your voice is much closer to Kermit’s pre-hangover. Hope that makes you feel better.
    Your voice is perfect.
    I like the additional color commentary, btw

  • @JohnnieHougaardNielsen
    @JohnnieHougaardNielsen 2 роки тому

    I agree that she probably initially assumed that "fake it till you make it" would also be a success for Theranos, like it has been to a few other startups (when we ignore the many failures). But then it became too hard to make it, and there was only faking left.

  • @patrickbarrett7536
    @patrickbarrett7536 2 роки тому

    What is astounding is the number of businesses that bought into her 'idea'. She wouldn't have gotten as far as she had if at least they had done their due diligence and realised how unobtainable the concept was.

  • @jennlizzy2019
    @jennlizzy2019 2 роки тому

    I enjoyTMI. You need to release your concern about what people say. Some are kind, some are critical, others always have to demonstrate how much smarter they are. You are the man who is putting yourself out there. You develop a concept, question and research then executed each video . 👍thumbs up 👍

  • @trondonaldson8509
    @trondonaldson8509 2 роки тому

    I definitely enjoyed the follow up video. All it needs is a Unsolved Mysteries style “UPDATE” at the start.

  • @somemonotoneguy4097
    @somemonotoneguy4097 2 роки тому

    I like this forum. I like you giving your natural opinion on the subject. I watch your main vods to learn about the topic, I watch your TMI channel to see how you really feel about it unfiltered.

  • @markw4263
    @markw4263 2 роки тому

    Appreciate the additional thoughts you’ve had (and enjoy your wry voice). I lived in the Bay Area while this was happening and it was just one of many companies trying to be the next big thing. Yeah, people should’ve asked her to ‘splain more details, but they didn’t do that for a lot of companies (like Webvan groceries)

  • @timidblaze9790
    @timidblaze9790 2 роки тому

    Just when i thought i had watched all your vids, i find out theres a whole other channel. thanks for the awesome videos Joe :)

  • @SolofAvaldor
    @SolofAvaldor 2 роки тому

    I think that what changed in Theranos was that once the big money started coming in the temptation was to keep the momentum going. They prolly started making small compromises at first with an ends justifies the means type of attitude. But then they couldn't find the courage to back down and admit their failures so they just doubled down to try to keep it going.

  • @MarkAndersen835
    @MarkAndersen835 2 роки тому +7

    Hey Joe, i really enjoy your content, keep doing what you are doing

  • @rockradstone
    @rockradstone 2 роки тому +1

    "She comes from yeast money."
    Definitely the first time these words have been uttered since the dawn of man. 😅

  • @brunoethier896
    @brunoethier896 2 роки тому

    It's always interesting to hear about your motivations and creative process for a video. 👍

  • @lupix4752
    @lupix4752 2 роки тому

    Regarding your voice, it's actually soothing. I like to fall asleep listening to random videos that are longer than 10 minutes and the only channel I can do that with is yours or Scott Manley's. Even if I've already watched the video before, it's got somewhat of a calming effect to it.
    It's been like that for months now so the UA-cam premium ad revenue from me would've racked up no doubt lol

  • @Vladimir_Ches
    @Vladimir_Ches 2 роки тому

    A video of your honest thoughts about a recent subject? YES PLEASE..

  • @SarahGreen523
    @SarahGreen523 2 роки тому

    Yes, love the follow up and the 'shorts' sketches! Easy regular content is cool with me.

  • @Rocketcandy1
    @Rocketcandy1 2 роки тому

    I like these a lot! Keep doing them, they are a really cool insite into how you think through the videos you make.

  • @pype720
    @pype720 2 роки тому +5

    It really is a great video. I already knew the story but this gave me a fresh and more detailed perspective.

  • @lg1355
    @lg1355 2 роки тому

    I always enjoy your free form videos. It’s an interesting view behind the curtain.

  • @diamondpoppa
    @diamondpoppa 2 роки тому

    I loved the short you did and honestly I don't care for the majority of them so you keep on rocking Mr Scott🤘😎🤘

  • @Tony247_v2
    @Tony247_v2 2 роки тому

    behind the scenes thoughts and comments is definitely a great idea

  • @pguti778
    @pguti778 2 роки тому

    i like the way you treat formal research on the main channel and your opinion on this one. looks good to me.

  • @pretenda
    @pretenda 2 роки тому

    I like these! Keep them up! Also, your voice is all good. I hadn’t even thought about it before you mentioned it, and I still haven’t changed my opinion. Its what makes you Joe!

  • @BobFirth
    @BobFirth 2 роки тому

    Hi Joe
    I like your insights and thoughts behind your videos. This helps to to know where your head is at. This makes me feel like I am learning what it is like to be behind the curtain. (in a Wizard of Oz point of view). On a personal note I hope you survived all the rain OK. We use to live in Lakewood and it looked like the White Rock Lake area really got hit hard.

  • @od1452
    @od1452 2 роки тому

    I remember Romney saying "I 'd borrow 10 thousand dollars from my parents and start a business." I thought ..we are in different worlds. It doesn't surprised me that people with money backgrounds see life differently and don't realize how different their life is. .

  • @BrightestBlessings7899
    @BrightestBlessings7899 2 роки тому

    Brilliant as usual, Joe! I've missed you!

  • @discocorpse
    @discocorpse 2 роки тому

    Dude, what? I just discovered your content and I think your voice is cool, man. Sorry if you don't like it, but I'm pretty sure a lot of other people dig it, too. You also know how to talk in a way in that seems real and smart and chill, and plenty of other folks on their channels definitely do not. You're killin it.

  • @tenkindsofpeople3679
    @tenkindsofpeople3679 2 роки тому

    You're doing great Joe. Looking the content here too. Just don't get into a burnout cycle. Take breaks when you need them.

  • @Miata822
    @Miata822 2 роки тому +1

    It does strike me as interesting that the gal who sells "200 tests" that aren't really 200 tests is scorned and convicted while the guy who sells "Full Self Driving" that isn't really full self driving gets a free pass.

  • @JerryBrower
    @JerryBrower 2 роки тому

    I like these informal follow-ups. They are interesting to see your thoughts behind the show.

  • @ElainefromMaine
    @ElainefromMaine 2 роки тому

    “Kermit on a hangover “…LOL. Your voice is actually perfect for explaining data. Call it a “scientist voice”.

  • @mossydog2385
    @mossydog2385 2 роки тому

    No one likes the way their voice sounds when recorded Joe, I don't like mine, I think it sounds nasal, but you have a very pleasant sounding voice, and I think that you're an excellent communicator. You break things down well and go into quite a bit of detail without making your audience's eye water. Good work all around.

  • @judgeyzip53
    @judgeyzip53 2 роки тому +1

    Keep the vids coming mate! I like that you have your own "reacts to" type video for your own scripts, adds some personal perspective to perceivable(imo) unbiased main channel vids :)

  • @kerriv-kn4ko
    @kerriv-kn4ko Рік тому

    Love your channel, I binge watch while working. I had a little voice training for public speaking and am in no way an expert. My problem was that I was speaking from my throat rather than my diaphram. Using your throat makes your voice higher and it tires much much faster. Simple way to test is to put your hand just above your belly button and see if you can feel the vibration from your voice there.

  • @ZachDxn
    @ZachDxn 2 роки тому

    I like these candid editorials

  • @MicJaguar
    @MicJaguar 2 роки тому

    I felt the same way. Like she started out super optimistic and by the time she realized it wouldn't work she was elbow deep in eventual failure. Im sure some people around her took advantage so make off with money before the ship sank.

  • @DragonKingGaav
    @DragonKingGaav 2 роки тому

    I love these extra thoughs videos!!! Pkease keep them coming!!!

  • @foosblood24
    @foosblood24 2 роки тому

    "Yeast money" .... that'll be in my head for the short foreseeable future.

  • @BabyMakR
    @BabyMakR 2 роки тому

    I like these personal opinion type bits on stories on the main channel. They provide balance on what you actually think and some extra detail on things that can't quite be proven. Like your belief that she originally thought it could be done (And to be fair, given the money and resources, it may be able to be done) but that it got to a point where she realised that it couldn't but kept following the story line, and at that point is where is became a scam. Please do more, even, maybe revisiting and applying the same to some older videos? Or even, revisiting some older videos and doing an update on them?

  • @goranjosic
    @goranjosic 2 роки тому

    I think the problem is that most of the doctors told her, even before she (Theranos) received the biggest investments, that extracting the mentioned tests from a drop of blood is simply impossible - because of the small amount, contamination from finger, etc. Maybe in the future there will be new ways of testing, new tests - but the Terranos didn't work on that, they worked on reducing in size and automating existing blod testing processes. She did not follow experts advice

  • @nimodafish7653
    @nimodafish7653 2 роки тому

    I love the follow ups Joe! And I love your content! Keep it up man!

  • @mellissadalby1402
    @mellissadalby1402 2 роки тому

    I used to work at a company that actually DID make a desktop Bio-Analyzer that really works. I'm not sure how many assays they had already developed, but it was more than 10 at least.
    And that was working way back in 2005

  • @So.Cal.Stacking
    @So.Cal.Stacking 2 роки тому +19

    This is like an MTV "Behind the Music" episode. What was Joe thinking when he made this episode? How does he feel about the subject? I would like this format a lot. Maybe add some of the stuff that did bit fit into the main episode. It's a great idea overall

  • @nicolaslanglais
    @nicolaslanglais 2 роки тому

    "I think I sound like Kermit on a hangover"
    *GLASS SHATTERING NOISE*

  • @TheFeralBachelor
    @TheFeralBachelor 2 роки тому

    I liked this. It was your personal thoughts vs the video which was more balanced information. You did add to the original video.

  • @michaelheckmann3791
    @michaelheckmann3791 2 роки тому +1

    If it had been a scam from the get go, she would have gotten out before it all collapsed. The fact that she didn't, tells me she had started believing her own lies, at that point

  • @ahaveland
    @ahaveland 2 роки тому

    Nothing wrong with your voice Joe, we love you as you are!

  • @lesumsi
    @lesumsi 2 роки тому

    Really like the follow up videos here! There are a lot of thoughts that don't make it into the final main video, I'm curious to hear them!

  • @theg0z0n
    @theg0z0n 2 роки тому

    this is what I'm subscribed to TMI for!!!
    I love this kind of 'joes other thoughts vibe' on this! perfect!
    oR iS tHiS a sCaM?!?!?

  • @pype720
    @pype720 2 роки тому

    Also - thx for the bonus content. It's a great way to use this channel.

  • @Digital-Dan
    @Digital-Dan 2 роки тому

    She also kept the Wall Street Journal's defunct Silicon Valley building occupied for a while after they left it. That's got to count for something.

  • @my3dprintedlife
    @my3dprintedlife 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the TMI videos Joe. Also your voice is just fine, don't change a thing.

  • @notyourfriend1634
    @notyourfriend1634 2 роки тому +1

    I do like your voice a lot, its relaxing to listen to

  • @BasedOnTrueStory88
    @BasedOnTrueStory88 2 роки тому

    Joe! I like your voice. I am so happy we can watch your videos here in the ward 5!

  • @alexvankeulen7171
    @alexvankeulen7171 2 роки тому

    I can't unhear you sounding like kermit with a hangover

  • @Three_Random_Words
    @Three_Random_Words 2 роки тому

    I have never liked my own voice either, so much so that I let the robot voice greet people on my cell, when I don't pick up.
    I never noticed the oddity of your voice before. Being that I have moderate Aspergers, I'll probably focus too much on its outright weirdness now. JEEZ MAN! Thanks Joe.

  • @the1khronohs40
    @the1khronohs40 2 роки тому

    I love your voice, man! I could listen to you talk for days and days! You, and Neil deGrasse Tyson.

  • @pierredeloince9073
    @pierredeloince9073 2 роки тому

    A 👍 for this kind of tvshow 📺, that kind in which you are giving up your security on a subjet and being confident in the viewer ability to understand what's behind.
    Nice. 👏✨

  • @genghis_connie
    @genghis_connie 2 роки тому

    The 20/20 feature on her had clips of a past professor and I believe an investor each saying they told her it couldn't work.
    It does matter, akin to how premeditated and second-degree murder carry different mindsets and consequences.
    Her psych profile is probably a great read.

  • @LukeRanieri
    @LukeRanieri 2 роки тому

    Love the commentary about the main channel videos!

  • @CMZneu
    @CMZneu 2 роки тому +1

    5:45 Same, idk why, when hanging out with friends for a few hours if i'm particularly talkative that day i can feel my throat a bit sore the next, i always thought it was because in my day to day and in my job i don't need to talk for prolonged periods of time so my voice was just not used to it but who knows, didn't happen to me when i was young. Doesn't really bother me that much but i could never be a teacher or something similar that's for sure.

  • @connecticutaggie
    @connecticutaggie 2 роки тому +1

    I can't remember what movie it was but I recall a movie where an older man was teaching a younger girl how to be a con artist and at one point he tells the girl "never fall for your own con". I think some of that happened here. I think that at one point Elizabeth Holmes fell for her own con.

  • @middletnpyro
    @middletnpyro 2 роки тому

    loving this Joe! keep it up!!! p.s. I find your voice soothing 😉

  • @Smokethis810
    @Smokethis810 2 роки тому

    I do really enjoy these new vids ur trying Joe. I do also watch the TMI vids & of corse the main channel. I was 1 of the original 5000 subs u got so I've been watching u for awhile now...
    I feel like ur reading too many of the comments, or at least letting the ppl whom only comment ignorant shit get to ya a bit much. Theres alot of ppl who r just worthless trolls & hate their own lives so they go on social media to just be hateful towards others. Don't even give them the satisfaction of it bothering ya Joe! Ur a good guy & make entertaining contant.
    Don't let the ppl who r too lazy, fat, ignorant, & ect to fix their own lives dictate what u do. U actually DO things to at least try & better urself in every aspect of ur work & life. U don't owe these ppl anything. They wont even do anything to help themselves.

  • @sawahtb
    @sawahtb 2 роки тому

    Elizabeth Holmes is not a normal person. She was told very early on that her hypothesis was too far off from physical reality but her ego and sense of self importance refused to be fact based. She also didn't want to put in the work to educate herself about what she was attempting, she just started asking for money, and the more she got the more she wanted it to keep coming. I don't think she knew how to get off that boat.