Love the idea of a science/research colaboration with scientists on silly/fun questions! I would watch that for sure! Joe's scaled back version of Mythbusters
I found the 'bird poop analysis conundrum' interesting. Whenever I hear the words, "studies have shown..." on a news report it gives me the willies. Four questions should always be answered: 1. Who did the study? 2. Who paid for the study? 3. What was the hypothesis statement? 4. Was the null hypotheses disproven. New articles, whether they be internet based, cable news based, or broadcast news based, seldom give answers to these questions. I'd be interested to do a study on the amount of misinformation is disseminated by the misapplication of statistics.
You're 100% right that it's going to be a long while before they're able to actually human rate Starship, and that's even assuming that the landing w/ chopsticks even works in the first place and they don't have to rework it for an unassisted landing.
I agree it will be some time before Starship is human rated. But "human rating" is a NASA process, which isn't needed to fly private crew. I think SpaceX will be flying private crew sooner than they will be flying NASA astronauts. SpaceX just needs the crew to sign a waiver where they accept the risks. Of course, SpaceX will surely be doing some internal risk assessment for flying private crew. Although they could legally fly crew even with a very high chance of death, deaths aren't exactly good PR! I think the biggest concern is the landing, so if they add ejection seats, that could make the risk assessment more favourable.
Neat…as Artemis got scrubbed again with next launch window in a couple days, it’s it getting interesting as to who will get there first. The science exp sounds like a fun and silly time. Lots of factors to think about, go for it!
I have read from more than one artemis engineer, that they will be required to roll the SLS back to the VAB, which if true will cause them to miss the launch window. That would seriously delay the program by at least a few weeks. Though it will still surely beat Starship to orbit.
Your conversation about cults and the psychology of it was great. More info on how society, marketing and propaganda and capitalism are work in our heads would be interesting
always more collaboration!! more guests, more interviews, and yes more research. I love seeing new perspectives and new view points in science and tech
That experiment could definitely work. It would probably be feasible to crowd source this: have people log a week's worth of data for their own car. (wouldn't trust single measurements, as you want to know droppings over time, and not droppings since the most recent car wash) I could help with experimental design.
It's definitely progress that we got from "are we ever going back to the Moon ?" to "who gets to the Moon first ?". And it's even better that one of the contenders is a private company, not a superpower.
"Mythbuster" videos: certainly a fun idea. However.... that might be way more expensive to make compared to the current format. Already the bird pooping idea needs a lot of counting = time = people = money
"Crowdsoursed experiments with Joe." Also on propulsive landing: Have you or Tim looked into the G-forces profile an astronaut would endure during a reentry/splashdown and compared it to a Starship reentry/splashdown? What if the seats would swing/rotate to keep the G-force vector perpendicular to the head-feet axis?
The g-force question is a great point. From what I hear, the zero-g plane NASA uses to train astronauts has the nickname "The vomit comet". Imagine SpaceX wanting to have a quick turn-around time for Starship but endlessly needing to clean the human-rated cabin of vomit after each landing. Huh!
The belly-flop maneuver and landing of Starship is pretty gentle. It shouldn't exceed 2G. I believe spashdown is more like 5G. The reentry of Starship should also be more gentle than a capsule. It has a greater lifting force so it should be able to skim the atmosphere for longer before decending into the thicker parts.
@@espenha indeed that would be my assumption. Now if only Tim or Joe could get info from SpaceX on the expected speeds and forces, they could make an episode about it and show graphs from simulations. 🤔😁
I definitely enjoy the lightning rounds. We get your insight on a wide range of topics usually, which means we get to know more about the way your brain works (which is a good thing in my opinion.) I also like your extra videos on this channel that go into more detail about the main channel video. I would actually like to see more lightning round videos or something similar where we get your thoughts on more than one subject in one video.
I enjoy them! And enjoy that you get to be informal and silly, serious, and topics you might not have thought of :) A testing ground that's really fun to watch! (and anything that brings Tangent [and/or insert other] Cam into play makes me giggle a ton!)
It would depend a lot on what the study actually asks. What color car gets pooped on more vs. what color car is most likely to be pooped on. The first one is most likely just a study of what is the most common car color. The second one is the experiment you mentioned; having a set number of each car color and seeing which gets covered more. The first one is going to have green or orange as a very small amount; but if you have 1 of each color, they'll all be quite close.
Great episode and breakdown sequel! I enjoy the lightning rounds, more stuff from you is great even if they're not as deep-diveable topics. Might I suggest seeing if you can't partner with a local university for your idea of doing experiments? See if you can't put up posters asking for scientific volunteers or see if tutors might ask in class for people interested in some extra-curricular science. That might be your best method without having to hire well-qualified and more expensive scientists for part-time work, less difficulty scheduling.
Halfords is a national UK chain that, not only sells car parts but also does vehicle servicing and MOTs which are the annual vehicle testing for road worthiness.
I don't know about the birds idea but the general concept of doing some scientific videos answering questions sounds really fun. Good luck can't wait to watch it
Many years ago I parked my little blue Ford-something in front of my house. Next morning it was completely covered in bird poop. It was amazing. Other cars on the street were not so pooped on but I can't remember what colors they were. This was in Florida. I later learned our street was on the path of robin migration north. There were tasty berries in the area and they flocked in large numbers a few days a year. Felt a little embarrassed going to the car wash in that condition but they were very understanding and scrubbed it all off without making fun of me (as far as I know). A coworker said it was because my car was "robin's egg blue."
Joe, I lovse your work. It makes my Monday. If you want to explore and try something new, I/we are with you. We would love to see where this lead, do the experiment. Would love to watch the results ♥️
Yeah, you're elevator pitch could be, "Mythbusters, but for cloaca ejecta". Seriously, that sounds like a fun show, I'd subscribe (and like, and probably even click the bell, or whatever other button push you need).
Bird pooping in car: You're going to need to control for nesting, feeding, and day of the week. (Birds have daily/ weekly/monthly habits too). So it might be wise to pick a bird-populated parking area, only have those 4-5 different cars in the area, and rotate them daily over the course of a month just for control. A wilderness area might also be a good place to test, just for a difference between city birds and country birds. Also, if you're in a city with a lot of crows, make sure that the person/people moving the cars wear masks cuz crows have that good memory and can just be vindictive.
When you were talking about not being able to find that original study it reminded me of a similar thing in that Hulu show Dopesick. I would love to see some kind of collaboration with some researchers find the real answers to stupid questions like the bird poop one. Like something with a university or something.
Please do that research! I would love to see that with all details about environment of research and stuff like that :D Second thing - I enjoyed watching both of the videos AFTER sls launch got scrubbed :p
I agree. It will be a while before starship is crew rated... So launch the crew on Dragon... Then dock with starship... Go around the moon... Then transfer the crew back to Dragon...
Weird thing about bird poop on cars. Where the car is parked has more effect on the result so map the poop concentration on the ground and consider what kind of person would park in that spot. Anecdotes can include, near parking lot light posts, seagulls especially relieve themselves at lift off as do crows. Also whoever gets to the shaded parking spot first, like under trees where birds are roosting. As Joe said, blah, blah, blah.
Methodology is SO important to the Bird Poop thing. Popularity of car color plays into it: if 90% of cars parked outside are red, then a random pattern would find 90% of the poop on red cars ... and in the same scenario, 90% of the cars with poop would be red (which is NOT the same measurement). Are you counting cars, or are you counting poop? Time is also something you mention in this video, but we don't know from the study: it's not "amount of poop" we want to count, but rather "amount of poop Per Hour". So many variables! And does it depend on the type of bird?!? Pigeons vs Owls? What about Bats?!?!! \o/
I owned a dark green Saturn for over 10 years. I parked in the same mall parking lot as others. Sea gulls hung out on the lighting fixtures every day.My car never got blasted. A co worker wondered why. I told her I never washed my car. well maybe once. The inside was clean but I did not want to waste water on the outside.. That's my scientific input.
As a biology student i would love it if you started to do experiments on stuff, especially if it’s silly stuff like the bird poop thing. It just makes experimentation very fun and engaging and it makes the scientific process more understandable. It might even inspire people to start experimenting themselves and let’s face it: a few more people with a scientific mindset would hurt this world. Also it’s just really funny Love ya bye
To your idea of branching out with your channel: Do it, if you have fun with it or if it interests you. It's your child, it's your channel. You should steer it like you wish. If you want to mix it up, yeah do it, why not. You shouldn't feel like working in a mine or just running the machine or just pleasing the algorithm or ... I am here because of how you do things. I am here for yeeeears. So, YES. Try out. Or change everything completly. Or don't change anything at all. But PLEASE, do it your way! Whatever that will mean. That's why I am here. So please feel encouraged to take the channel(s) any path you like.
I'm sorry, but Gene Roddenberry had it right over 60 years ago-- a ship built in space for space travel. Rockets resupply the ship in Earth's orbit and never leave Earth's orbit. The "space ship" never enters a planet's atmosphere or docks with space stations, using lander and shuttles for those tasks.
What a great idea! Here in Sri Lanka the astrology and psychic scene is intense, and while I don't believe it, most of the people here do and they make some strong points in favor of it(like my uncle being told that he's infertile by an astrologer even before he got a checkup on it). Btw, this isn't western astrology. Astrology here is way more complex. Anyway, I've always wanted to conduct a years long study on like 10 or 15 people to see if there's anything special there.
Over the years, I've owned many cars of many colors and I've never thought "wow, this car is a bird poop magnet" I think if you park under a tree or a power line, your odds of being hit go up significantly. With regard to the Starship, I think once it reaches orbital status, it will start putting Starlink2 satellites in orbit for a while while they fine tune the landing process. After they've developed a track record for good landings they'll move to manned flights. I agree, 2025 sounds like the earliest that manned flights could happen.
Joe, it sounds like you could be the coordinator of the bird poop analysis and record all the steps to reach a definitive conclusion. You could get feedback from your audience on how to proceed. I would suggest doing it in a parking lot with trees around and rotate different color cars of the same type everyday.
Could be a really good and interesting series. "Could that actually be true?" And you look up some interesting common knowledge and see if it's possible to prove or debunk them. I guess it could be a fun collaboration thing as well to get some different UA-camrs and scientists together to tackle different questions. It's a public service mate! You should definitely try to make something out of this! And also, please do more lightning videos of you can. I love everything you do and a lightning video is better than nothing! 😉 🦖💨
Heck yea - let's to some hive-mind-powered experiments! You could potentially explore topics that would be way out of reach of typical academic research.
I think the pitch is brilliant and would really help to improve general discourse surrounding scientific methods and literacy, especially if it evolves into its own series. reminiscent of mythbusters
I feel like there'd be a lot of flimsy stuff to test out, even new ones coming up; but it'd be hard for you or your team to find them all. You could find _some_ but you only have so much total effort to expend, and videos pay the bills, so you might be able to lean on your audience for sort of "ears on the ground." Or even just suggestions for stuff to try that has a bit too high of a cost-barrier to answer for one person alone. They can provide the outsourced questions, and you can deliver the _Outsourced Answers_ [emphasis added after re-reading, lol ]
I'd be totally up for that. We could do it as a class experiment. I think you would need the same type of car in different colours so the surface area is the same. Also you would have to park them in the same spot for a day or possibly more each.
Do it! I'd suggest puttting five different colored cars in a cage/closed environment with maybe ten birds. You seen the Mark Rober squirrel obstacle course? Give the birds a story and folks will love it. Cheers!
I'd watch it. For sure parking under trees gets pooped on more than not parking under trees. If you park where you see previous bird poop, odds are if you are out an hour or 2 you'll have bird poop on your car.
I'm enjoying these new TMI videos and I really liked the lightening question video too. Personally, I think SpaceX will be a bit careful about showing up NASA even if they can as they want to continue their lucrative partnership but I do think that if Musk wanted to, he could manage to get actual humans orbiting the moon before NASA with a much lower budget and waaay better PR.
you should check out the CrowdScience episodes on the BBC World Service were they tackle one question each week sent in from listeners around the world with the help of experts such as: - How many fossils are there ? - How high can insects fly ? - Do animals exercise ? - Why do bright lights make me sneeze ? - How do you navigate in space ? - Does dark matter still matter ? - Were my atoms once your atoms ? - Why do conspiracy theories exist ? ... there are 100's of episodes.
I had a blue Corvette. Went I was to go work one Monday, I saw that is had been pooped on and was totally blanketed in it. I managed to clear an area of the windshield just enough to get it to the Car Wash. Sheesh!
"...maybe get 5 different cars of different colors and park them in a heavily pigeoned place..." Or a heavily seagulled place, or whatever other kind of bird. Do pigeons prefer different colors from seagulls, crows, swallows, red winged blackbirds, etc. Also, cars need to be the same model, so there is no bias brought about by the relative attractiveness of a particular model vs another. Maybe another set of another model. Set up cameras to document the behaviors of birds around the cars. Do they land on the cars, or are they pooping on the wing, or perhaps, are they perched above on trees or wires? Does it change depending on the time of day or season? For it to be meaningful, it would need to be carefully set up and monitored. A carefully done experiment relating to a totally frivolous question.
Often these days with fads and "bandwagons" good ,or valid, information is hyped for an erroneous reason and then becomes dismissed in totality. We throw the baby out with the bath water! I often wonder about the origins of urban myths. Why was it important inthe first place and what gave it power. Pursue your interests as if pursuing the love of your life, passionately! I love what you do Joe cuz you do what you love. One of my hobbies is the OED and etymology. The power of words and how we are shaped by pop culture.
Landing like Space X does doesn't allow for any "whoops" factor. Even Helicopters have some "coast" to their landing if needed. Apollo and the parachutes (or Crew Dragon), had a little backup by using more chute than they "need" for a safe "landing". Blow out a chute, and it'll just be a harder landing, but survivable. Loose control of a landing, like Flacon 9 or Starship, and you're going to drop at the speed of gravity. I see them taking a hot minute to get crew certified for Starship. Maybe if they were practicing with Falcon to get it crew certified, it might help the cause, but, nope, it's gonna be a minute :).
I like the idea of doing more research like this, but it’s going to be a difficult question to answer. Species of bird, location, season, etc. are all going to be confounding variables. One method might be to simply put a standard set of cars parked in a location where this occurs. Then use different color car covers, first all the same (neutral) color, followed by different colors for each car, then swap the covers among cars in the same location. To measure you would have to standardize the car size/foot print and measure number of splats per m squared. The repeat the whole thing in a different location/habitat, then do it again at a different season. Just an idea….
I'm trying my hardest to not think about how to set up that poop experiment and failing. Maybe like... park a couple cars under an overhead cable. Two days with switched spots, one is a control. Or maybe you could round-robin it to see which car gets the preferential poop and arrange accordingly. Still at this point we don't even know how much daily variability we'd get, so you'd probably want to just park any cars under there and see how consistent it is and then make the next phase where you pit cars against each other... wait this is the rabbit hole, isn't it...
Sounds like a nice idea that you could team up with some scientists with. To be honest, though, debunking science or at least seemingly academically studies is quite the rabbit hole once you consider things like who sponsors food research and the findings derived, and similar examples. However, you could for example do a series on the Ig-Nobel prices and revisit the studies undertaken therein. That would be kind cool and I would enjoy watching these.
I agree, Starship will not be human rated for another 5 years, probably. They are prioritizing speed at the moment and at some point, they will need to have a paradigm shift from development to quality. I think there will be growing pains in that program after they make it to orbit.
Regarding Starship pushing the orbit of a Station, what happened when the Space Shuttle dock to the ISS ? I think we should be looking there as a starter to understand the effects involved and then maybe a "complicated" rule of 3 would get you quite close to the real answer regarding Starship !
Love the idea of a science/research colaboration with scientists on silly/fun questions! I would watch that for sure! Joe's scaled back version of Mythbusters
AGREED !:-)
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AGREED!
Sounds like new channel… “scientific answers with Joe”
Or maybe “scientifically Proven answers with Joe”
Myth busters with joe
I really enjoy this release schedule. I love the behind the scenes right after I finish the main content. Keeps it fresh 👍
Agreed. +1
Agreed+1
I found the 'bird poop analysis conundrum' interesting. Whenever I hear the words, "studies have shown..." on a news report it gives me the willies. Four questions should always be answered: 1. Who did the study? 2. Who paid for the study? 3. What was the hypothesis statement? 4. Was the null hypotheses disproven. New articles, whether they be internet based, cable news based, or broadcast news based, seldom give answers to these questions. I'd be interested to do a study on the amount of misinformation is disseminated by the misapplication of statistics.
Plus the whole grammatical issue of 'studies have shown' being weasel words.
Studies have shown that saying “Studies have shown” undermines what ever I’m about to say next
Studies have shown (reading youtube comments) that bird's poop mainly on influencers
You're 100% right that it's going to be a long while before they're able to actually human rate Starship, and that's even assuming that the landing w/ chopsticks even works in the first place and they don't have to rework it for an unassisted landing.
I agree it will be some time before Starship is human rated. But "human rating" is a NASA process, which isn't needed to fly private crew. I think SpaceX will be flying private crew sooner than they will be flying NASA astronauts. SpaceX just needs the crew to sign a waiver where they accept the risks.
Of course, SpaceX will surely be doing some internal risk assessment for flying private crew. Although they could legally fly crew even with a very high chance of death, deaths aren't exactly good PR! I think the biggest concern is the landing, so if they add ejection seats, that could make the risk assessment more favourable.
Neat…as Artemis got scrubbed again with next launch window in a couple days, it’s it getting interesting as to who will get there first.
The science exp sounds like a fun and silly time. Lots of factors to think about, go for it!
I have read from more than one artemis engineer, that they will be required to roll the SLS back to the VAB, which if true will cause them to miss the launch window. That would seriously delay the program by at least a few weeks. Though it will still surely beat Starship to orbit.
I like the lightning rounds! Either way you never disappoint 😁
"Heavily pigeoned place", there you go again making me chuckle again. It's why I keep coming back!
Your conversation about cults and the psychology of it was great. More info on how society, marketing and propaganda and capitalism are work in our heads would be interesting
Really enjoy the accompanying videos to the main channel!
always more collaboration!! more guests, more interviews, and yes more research. I love seeing new perspectives and new view points in science and tech
Really into this use of the TMI channel man. Anything that gives me extra info on your videos works for me.
Keep at it buddy, you're smashing it :)
That experiment could definitely work. It would probably be feasible to crowd source this: have people log a week's worth of data for their own car. (wouldn't trust single measurements, as you want to know droppings over time, and not droppings since the most recent car wash)
I could help with experimental design.
100% those „silly“ „small“ unanswered questions are really really interesting
It's definitely progress that we got from "are we ever going back to the Moon ?" to "who gets to the Moon first ?". And it's even better that one of the contenders is a private company, not a superpower.
"Mythbuster" videos: certainly a fun idea. However.... that might be way more expensive to make compared to the current format. Already the bird pooping idea needs a lot of counting = time = people = money
I like them because you get multiple topics and you also get random topics things we would all never expect
"Crowdsoursed experiments with Joe." Also on propulsive landing: Have you or Tim looked into the G-forces profile an astronaut would endure during a reentry/splashdown and compared it to a Starship reentry/splashdown? What if the seats would swing/rotate to keep the G-force vector perpendicular to the head-feet axis?
The g-force question is a great point. From what I hear, the zero-g plane NASA uses to train astronauts has the nickname "The vomit comet". Imagine SpaceX wanting to have a quick turn-around time for Starship but endlessly needing to clean the human-rated cabin of vomit after each landing. Huh!
The belly-flop maneuver and landing of Starship is pretty gentle. It shouldn't exceed 2G. I believe spashdown is more like 5G.
The reentry of Starship should also be more gentle than a capsule. It has a greater lifting force so it should be able to skim the atmosphere for longer before decending into the thicker parts.
@@espenha indeed that would be my assumption. Now if only Tim or Joe could get info from SpaceX on the expected speeds and forces, they could make an episode about it and show graphs from simulations. 🤔😁
This channel is becoming my favorite Joe's channel.
Thank you
Ooo! You can have a whole separate channel for you doing science research and you could call it (brace yourself) "Questions with Joe"
I definitely enjoy the lightning rounds. We get your insight on a wide range of topics usually, which means we get to know more about the way your brain works (which is a good thing in my opinion.) I also like your extra videos on this channel that go into more detail about the main channel video. I would actually like to see more lightning round videos or something similar where we get your thoughts on more than one subject in one video.
I enjoy them! And enjoy that you get to be informal and silly, serious, and topics you might not have thought of :) A testing ground that's really fun to watch! (and anything that brings Tangent [and/or insert other] Cam into play makes me giggle a ton!)
I love the lightening rounds...so crazily random, facetious and downright weird in intent, humour and curiosity streams 😄 😅 ...keeper coming
It would depend a lot on what the study actually asks. What color car gets pooped on more vs. what color car is most likely to be pooped on. The first one is most likely just a study of what is the most common car color. The second one is the experiment you mentioned; having a set number of each car color and seeing which gets covered more. The first one is going to have green or orange as a very small amount; but if you have 1 of each color, they'll all be quite close.
Team up with Veritasium for the bird inquiry maybe? + other research centers if needed?
Great episode and breakdown sequel! I enjoy the lightning rounds, more stuff from you is great even if they're not as deep-diveable topics.
Might I suggest seeing if you can't partner with a local university for your idea of doing experiments? See if you can't put up posters asking for scientific volunteers or see if tutors might ask in class for people interested in some extra-curricular science. That might be your best method without having to hire well-qualified and more expensive scientists for part-time work, less difficulty scheduling.
It's time for "Questions with Joe" where you and small group investigate questions that have stumped you.
This. "Joe's other other channel"
I think that searching, then researching, is a fine idea.
Seriously: For this viewer, adding some real research content is every kind of YES!
Lightening round videos tend to be my favorite.
Halfords is a national UK chain that, not only sells car parts but also does vehicle servicing and MOTs which are the annual vehicle testing for road worthiness.
The experiment idea could be fun, it reminds me of the "What If" book. Just behind your left shoulder.
I don't know about the birds idea but the general concept of doing some scientific videos answering questions sounds really fun. Good luck can't wait to watch it
That is an awesome idea Joe! You could be the new Mythbusters, with your own spin.
Many years ago I parked my little blue Ford-something in front of my house. Next morning it was completely covered in bird poop. It was amazing. Other cars on the street were not so pooped on but I can't remember what colors they were. This was in Florida. I later learned our street was on the path of robin migration north. There were tasty berries in the area and they flocked in large numbers a few days a year.
Felt a little embarrassed going to the car wash in that condition but they were very understanding and scrubbed it all off without making fun of me (as far as I know). A coworker said it was because my car was "robin's egg blue."
Joe, I lovse your work. It makes my Monday.
If you want to explore and try something new, I/we are with you. We would love to see where this lead, do the experiment. Would love to watch the results ♥️
Joe, you could definitely dabble in some light scientific research. I bet we'd all be interested in that too.
"If all goes to plan..." Seems that Starship really slowed down due to red tape so that SLS could catch up.
Yeah, you're elevator pitch could be, "Mythbusters, but for cloaca ejecta". Seriously, that sounds like a fun show, I'd subscribe (and like, and probably even click the bell, or whatever other button push you need).
Joe pitching his scientific research idea into bird poop reminds me of the Myth Busters... go ahead Joe, go down that rabbit hole!
Bird pooping in car:
You're going to need to control for nesting, feeding, and day of the week. (Birds have daily/ weekly/monthly habits too). So it might be wise to pick a bird-populated parking area, only have those 4-5 different cars in the area, and rotate them daily over the course of a month just for control.
A wilderness area might also be a good place to test, just for a difference between city birds and country birds.
Also, if you're in a city with a lot of crows, make sure that the person/people moving the cars wear masks cuz crows have that good memory and can just be vindictive.
Collab with William Osman on the bird poop car thing... and still get some legit scientists too. 😁
When you were talking about not being able to find that original study it reminded me of a similar thing in that Hulu show Dopesick. I would love to see some kind of collaboration with some researchers find the real answers to stupid questions like the bird poop one. Like something with a university or something.
Please do that research! I would love to see that with all details about environment of research and stuff like that :D
Second thing - I enjoyed watching both of the videos AFTER sls launch got scrubbed :p
That could be a new channel for you. Investigate weird questions like this and approach it in a scientific way. Id watch it
Investigations with Joe
What a pleasant surprise. I'd pay to hear you speak live in Vancouver Canada.
I agree. It will be a while before starship is crew rated... So launch the crew on Dragon... Then dock with starship... Go around the moon... Then transfer the crew back to Dragon...
Weird thing about bird poop on cars. Where the car is parked has more effect on the result so map the poop concentration on the ground and consider what kind of person would park in that spot. Anecdotes can include, near parking lot light posts, seagulls especially relieve themselves at lift off as do crows. Also whoever gets to the shaded parking spot first, like under trees where birds are roosting. As Joe said, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, the landing will make for an exciting moment. Unless you’ve inside, then it’s definitely pucker time.
You do a whole section on birds pooping on cars... and you end it by saying, "To the Loo!" Killing myself laughing...
Methodology is SO important to the Bird Poop thing. Popularity of car color plays into it: if 90% of cars parked outside are red, then a random pattern would find 90% of the poop on red cars ... and in the same scenario, 90% of the cars with poop would be red (which is NOT the same measurement). Are you counting cars, or are you counting poop? Time is also something you mention in this video, but we don't know from the study: it's not "amount of poop" we want to count, but rather "amount of poop Per Hour". So many variables! And does it depend on the type of bird?!? Pigeons vs Owls? What about Bats?!?!! \o/
I owned a dark green Saturn for over 10 years. I parked in the same mall parking lot as others. Sea gulls hung out on the lighting fixtures every day.My car never got blasted. A co worker wondered why. I told her I never washed my car. well maybe once. The inside was clean but I did not want to waste water on the outside.. That's my scientific input.
I was still thinking about Starship when I've read your post, so it took me a while to figure out "dark green Saturn".
@@andrasbiro3007 that was sort of intentional.
I'm all about UA-camr quantitative studies!! Its hard to imagine a less biased community than one that learns for entertainment
lol, I should have watched this before commenting on the original video. Thanks Joe!
As a biology student i would love it if you started to do experiments on stuff, especially if it’s silly stuff like the bird poop thing. It just makes experimentation very fun and engaging and it makes the scientific process more understandable. It might even inspire people to start experimenting themselves and let’s face it: a few more people with a scientific mindset would hurt this world.
Also it’s just really funny
Love ya bye
To your idea of branching out with your channel:
Do it, if you have fun with it or if it interests you. It's your child, it's your channel. You should steer it like you wish.
If you want to mix it up, yeah do it, why not.
You shouldn't feel like working in a mine or just running the machine or just pleasing the algorithm or ...
I am here because of how you do things. I am here for yeeeears.
So, YES. Try out. Or change everything completly. Or don't change anything at all.
But PLEASE, do it your way! Whatever that will mean. That's why I am here.
So please feel encouraged to take the channel(s) any path you like.
I'm sorry, but Gene Roddenberry had it right over 60 years ago-- a ship built in space for space travel. Rockets resupply the ship in Earth's orbit and never leave Earth's orbit. The "space ship" never enters a planet's atmosphere or docks with space stations, using lander and shuttles for those tasks.
What a great idea! Here in Sri Lanka the astrology and psychic scene is intense, and while I don't believe it, most of the people here do and they make some strong points in favor of it(like my uncle being told that he's infertile by an astrologer even before he got a checkup on it). Btw, this isn't western astrology. Astrology here is way more complex. Anyway, I've always wanted to conduct a years long study on like 10 or 15 people to see if there's anything special there.
Over the years, I've owned many cars of many colors and I've never thought "wow, this car is a bird poop magnet" I think if you park under a tree or a power line, your odds of being hit go up significantly. With regard to the Starship, I think once it reaches orbital status, it will start putting Starlink2 satellites in orbit for a while while they fine tune the landing process. After they've developed a track record for good landings they'll move to manned flights. I agree, 2025 sounds like the earliest that manned flights could happen.
Joe, it sounds like you could be the coordinator of the bird poop analysis and record all the steps to reach a definitive conclusion. You could get feedback from your audience on how to proceed. I would suggest doing it in a parking lot with trees around and rotate different color cars of the same type everyday.
BPX - DO IT! And maybe add a comedy sketch to it as well.
Get the answers Joe, get them even if you have to do the research yourself
Could be a really good and interesting series. "Could that actually be true?"
And you look up some interesting common knowledge and see if it's possible to prove or debunk them. I guess it could be a fun collaboration thing as well to get some different UA-camrs and scientists together to tackle different questions. It's a public service mate! You should definitely try to make something out of this! And also, please do more lightning videos of you can. I love everything you do and a lightning video is better than nothing! 😉 🦖💨
Heck yea - let's to some hive-mind-powered experiments! You could potentially explore topics that would be way out of reach of typical academic research.
Spacex is doing things I never saw coming. So we shall see.
But you are growing! You researching aaaaall these topics _is_ you growing!
Do research on those curious questions! Love that idea.
I think the pitch is brilliant and would really help to improve general discourse surrounding scientific methods and literacy, especially if it evolves into its own series. reminiscent of mythbusters
Looking for real answers with joe ! Love this idea ! In combination with a sketch please ! Keep it up !
That sounds like a great idea Joe.
Do your thing Joe, we're just here for you, you know! Keep em coming! No matter what it is!
I feel like there'd be a lot of flimsy stuff to test out, even new ones coming up; but it'd be hard for you or your team to find them all. You could find _some_ but you only have so much total effort to expend, and videos pay the bills, so you might be able to lean on your audience for sort of "ears on the ground." Or even just suggestions for stuff to try that has a bit too high of a cost-barrier to answer for one person alone. They can provide the outsourced questions, and you can deliver the _Outsourced Answers_
[emphasis added after re-reading, lol ]
I am interested to hear more about these ideas or seeing you do a mythbuster style series.
I'd be totally up for that. We could do it as a class experiment. I think you would need the same type of car in different colours so the surface area is the same. Also you would have to park them in the same spot for a day or possibly more each.
I think it's time for Joe's 3rd channel, Research With Joe! Could be a fun thing.
Awesome idea for you to sponsor testing like this
Turns out there is such a thing as a stupid question… and you should absolutely answer some of them with hard core science!
Do it! I'd suggest puttting five different colored cars in a cage/closed environment with maybe ten birds. You seen the Mark Rober squirrel obstacle course? Give the birds a story and folks will love it.
Cheers!
I'd watch it. For sure parking under trees gets pooped on more than not parking under trees. If you park where you see previous bird poop, odds are if you are out an hour or 2 you'll have bird poop on your car.
I never chance it, not even for 15 minutes. Just not worth it, I leave my windows down, slightly, throughout the summer & most of the year.
I'm enjoying these new TMI videos and I really liked the lightening question video too. Personally, I think SpaceX will be a bit careful about showing up NASA even if they can as they want to continue their lucrative partnership but I do think that if Musk wanted to, he could manage to get actual humans orbiting the moon before NASA with a much lower budget and waaay better PR.
you should check out the CrowdScience episodes on the BBC World Service were they tackle one question each week sent in from listeners around the world with the help of experts such as:
- How many fossils are there ?
- How high can insects fly ?
- Do animals exercise ?
- Why do bright lights make me sneeze ?
- How do you navigate in space ?
- Does dark matter still matter ?
- Were my atoms once your atoms ?
- Why do conspiracy theories exist ?
... there are 100's of episodes.
I love the lightning round videos.
I had a blue Corvette. Went I was to go work one Monday, I saw that is had been pooped on and was totally blanketed in it. I managed to clear an area of the windshield just enough to get it to the Car Wash. Sheesh!
What you're proposing was done...it was called Myth Busters 😆
Joebusters! I love that idea so much!
"...maybe get 5 different cars of different colors and park them in a heavily pigeoned place..." Or a heavily seagulled place, or whatever other kind of bird. Do pigeons prefer different colors from seagulls, crows, swallows, red winged blackbirds, etc. Also, cars need to be the same model, so there is no bias brought about by the relative attractiveness of a particular model vs another. Maybe another set of another model. Set up cameras to document the behaviors of birds around the cars. Do they land on the cars, or are they pooping on the wing, or perhaps, are they perched above on trees or wires? Does it change depending on the time of day or season? For it to be meaningful, it would need to be carefully set up and monitored. A carefully done experiment relating to a totally frivolous question.
The bird poop on red cars myth was tested on Motor Mythbusters. I think they determined color made no difference.
As a pigeon myself, the reason we poop on certain cars…oooh, an old lady throwing bread crumbs! Got to go…
Often these days with fads and "bandwagons" good ,or valid, information is hyped for an erroneous reason and then becomes dismissed in totality. We throw the baby out with the bath water! I often wonder about the origins of urban myths. Why was it important inthe first place and what gave it power. Pursue your interests as if pursuing the love of your life, passionately! I love what you do Joe cuz you do what you love. One of my hobbies is the OED and etymology. The power of words and how we are shaped by pop culture.
Yes Joe! Please do the research videos. I will watch them all.
Landing like Space X does doesn't allow for any "whoops" factor. Even Helicopters have some "coast" to their landing if needed. Apollo and the parachutes (or Crew Dragon), had a little backup by using more chute than they "need" for a safe "landing". Blow out a chute, and it'll just be a harder landing, but survivable. Loose control of a landing, like Flacon 9 or Starship, and you're going to drop at the speed of gravity. I see them taking a hot minute to get crew certified for Starship. Maybe if they were practicing with Falcon to get it crew certified, it might help the cause, but, nope, it's gonna be a minute :).
I like the idea of doing more research like this, but it’s going to be a difficult question to answer. Species of bird, location, season, etc. are all going to be confounding variables. One method might be to simply put a standard set of cars parked in a location where this occurs. Then use different color car covers, first all the same (neutral) color, followed by different colors for each car, then swap the covers among cars in the same location. To measure you would have to standardize the car size/foot print and measure number of splats per m squared. The repeat the whole thing in a different location/habitat, then do it again at a different season. Just an idea….
I'm trying my hardest to not think about how to set up that poop experiment and failing. Maybe like... park a couple cars under an overhead cable. Two days with switched spots, one is a control. Or maybe you could round-robin it to see which car gets the preferential poop and arrange accordingly. Still at this point we don't even know how much daily variability we'd get, so you'd probably want to just park any cars under there and see how consistent it is and then make the next phase where you pit cars against each other... wait this is the rabbit hole, isn't it...
hell yeah, get yourself an Erdos number!
Sounds like a nice idea that you could team up with some scientists with. To be honest, though, debunking science or at least seemingly academically studies is quite the rabbit hole once you consider things like who sponsors food research and the findings derived, and similar examples. However, you could for example do a series on the Ig-Nobel prices and revisit the studies undertaken therein. That would be kind cool and I would enjoy watching these.
I agree, Starship will not be human rated for another 5 years, probably. They are prioritizing speed at the moment and at some point, they will need to have a paradigm shift from development to quality. I think there will be growing pains in that program after they make it to orbit.
Regarding Starship pushing the orbit of a Station, what happened when the Space Shuttle dock to the ISS ? I think we should be looking there as a starter to understand the effects involved and then maybe a "complicated" rule of 3 would get you quite close to the real answer regarding Starship !
Sounds rad! You should do the one about eating spiders in your sleep next.
I'd watch the silly research questions!
Myth busters light is a fantastic idea.
Joe's hypothesis! Bring on the sciences and lets peer review some stupid stuff.
my response is ... very positive :-))