Why does the Omega Aqua Terra Cost MORE Than the Omega Seamaster Diver 300?!
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
- Why does the Omega Aqua Terra Cost MORE Than the Omega Seamaster Diver 300?! This is a question I have been asking myself for a while now. There's not a lot in it - about £300 - but still. I could never figure out why there is this gap in price! After doing some research and honestly wanting to understand the price gulf I've boiled it down to 3 big reasons:
1. The Aqua Terra's 8900 movement upgrade. But this only holds water for the 41mm variation. The 38mm still houses the same movement as the SMP.
2. The Aqua Terra's Finishing - with the high polish and overall feeling more premium
AND
3. Brand Perception - Wanting to market the AT as a bit more upscale
But hey. What do I know?! This was just me going down an Omega rabbit trail!
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TIME STAMPS:
0:00-1:25 - Intro
1:26-3:57 - The Movement
3:58-4:57 - The Finishing
4:58-6:23 - Perception
6:24-7:16 - My Thoughts
7:17-7:37 - Outro
7:38-8:23 - Thank you Patrons!! - Навчання та стиль
This video has only convinced me that I NEED to get an Aqua Terra in for review! Perhaps my mind will be changed! ;)
The Aqua Terra is an excellent all-around watch for sure on the rubber strap/bracelet 🤩 The blue has a stunning sunburst, but all the other color 🌈 variations are awesome as well
A colleague at work showed me his Aqua Terra and I was pleasantly surprised at the build quality and feel of the watch! Sadly for him, I was wearing an S-Tier Casio F-105W and he admitted defeat on the spot 😄
@@TheAbysswalker Re-flex
@@TheAbysswalkerS-Tier 😂 Nice 😎 F91W-1 got me through Basic and only cost $9.99
Oh, they are handsome watches indeed.
I own the Aquaterra, and choose it over the SMP 300 for various reasons:
It has a superior movement.
It is better finished.
It’s more versatile, looks good with a suit, with jeans and a leather jacket or in the beach. The perfect beater.
About it being more pricey, I think it can be attributed to the movement and to the hands and indexes being rhodium plated.
The hands of the SMP are Rhodium plated too. I own a 2022 SMP and for me the finishing is fantastic. The micro adjustment is best on the market too in my opinion
same movement if you went for the 38mm model
@@Mark-lj1djthats a steong plus
Because Omega knows I want an Aqua Terra so they intentionally place it above my budget in the hopes I'll cave and buy the Diver 300, which I won't do. And so the ongoing and never ending Cold War between me and Omega continues. But in all seriousness, I really do think that if the Aqua Terra was placed at the same price bracket as the Diver 300, it would be possibly the best do it all watch at that price point. I'd say the same thing for the Globemaster too. Great video Britt!! You're absolutely killing this youtube game!
🤣🤣 this made me audibly laugh! Don’t I know this life! JLC has done this exact same thing to me with the Reverso! 😡
In response, Omega just raises the price of the Seamaster Diver 300… 😂
NOOO OMEGA! NOOOO! ;) haha!
Again? WTF🤦
@@BrittPearceWatcheseven omega listen to the Watch Gringa ! Real girl power
I've just checked and the SMP300 on the steel bracelet is £5500, which it has been for a while. Are you sure it wasn't the 75th Anniversary version which is £300 more?
It's possible going up in September, that's when the next change due
For novelty items, the real cost of making probably does not matter as much. I think the aqua terra is a more all rounded watch and therefore has a larger customer base. Being able to attract more people probably also means being able to charge a higher price.
I would not say the Aquaterra sells anywhere near as well as an SMP300.
It’s very big/thick and heavy for a dressier watch, and people are not super keen on butterfly clasps.
The SMP300 sells loads because people on the rebound from Submariner rejection get caught up in a spiderweb of hype and hyperbole about it.
I think the main reason for the AT pricing is that it's basically Omega's answer to the Datejust. And as such, it needs to exude that "luxury" vibe, including in the price. The Seamaster 300 is such an unique and iconic design that it won't be confused with anything else, but the AT is a bit more "generic" (which actually adds to its popularity), so it needs to be differentiated from a Longines or a Tudor.
I think you’re bang on here.
Yes, but the Submariner costs more than a Datejust....
@@jehru2800 snobism effect. Rolex don't need to invent that any more.
I feel like omega does not want to look like cheap surrogate or bootleg Rolex. So to be exclusive and desirable it have to be hard to get. And this triggers snobism effect.
Snobs don't chase SS De Ville
Would agree, I have the Green teak dial AT and the 300 pro which has definitely more workmanship in the case.
@jehru2800 if you take a steel datejust 41 on fluted bezel and jubilee, it costs more than Sub. Sub prices have been increasing at msrp over the years, the datejust used to be way more expensive a few years back
Current prices of the Aquaterra are unfortunately too high, but it's the same with all Omegas and many other brands now.
I own a 41 mm AT and I have to say that for me it's a better watch compared to the SMP 300. Here's my reasons:
1) Better movement. The 8900 caliber is something amazing. Super accurate (less than 1 sec / die) and the "jumping hour" function made it a great travel watch, even though it's not a GMT.
2) Design. Its classic design made it a more versatile than a chuncky diver as the SMP 300 ( that I love as well).
3) Finishings. Better on the AT.
Ahhh perfectly said! I couldn’t agree more with all of this! 👏🏻💕
I have both, and I agree with what you say 👍🏼 AT feel more premium
In my opinion, the Aquaterra is significantly better and I think the price difference is because of the variety you can get
Lol
Totally agree! My two watches are the SMP 300 and the aqua terra. I love them both.
One other big negative for the AT vs. SMP is the lack of micro adjustment on the bracelet. Get on that Omega!
OUUU YES! The AT has a butterfly clasp doesn’t it?! (You have far more experience with it than me! I’m just an enthusiast with a camera who keeps cranking videos out! 🤣). What a brilliant 2 watch collection!
Yes the AT bracelets don’t have any adjustment including those new smaller colour pieces cashing in on the colour palate trend. Bit of a cop out and the reason I never wear my old Seamaster as it’s too tight some of the time. The jumping hour thing is OK if you are a frequent flyer but a pain otherwise when setting from dead. Omega never fail to just fall short if they sorted that I’d be back in the game. Maybe…
Heya Britt!
Just watched your previous Vid, and saw that you had a Gnarly accident while commuting,as a fellow cyclist, it must’ve been scary.
Hope you’re recovering well, and back on the bike! Love your work Britt.
Yep- crown positions are correct. I have the 41mm green dial and love it. Aside from all else, the bracelet is extremely comfortable and the lug shape is perfect.
It’s one of the favourites in my range.
Owned Omega Speedmaster Pro with Hesalite, Rolex Datejust and got Omega Aqua terra 41 last April.
I now wear Aqua terra almost exclusively, I love its looks, ease of wear, go anywhere anytime style whereas the Speedmaster is fine for sports and recreation and Datejust is ok for dressy occasions, Aquaterra does it all without a second thought and does it with good looks. I grab it in the morning for work and any stops in between formal or casual.
I LOVE THIS! And I think you nailed it! The AT is perfectly sporty and dressy at the same time! It could easily be a one watch collection!
I've been asking myself this for ages as well (and I say this as someone who has recently bought a 34mm AT, which I LOVE). The only thing I could think of is the addition of a date complication and Omega wanting to position the AT in line with a Datejust. 🤷♀️
Nice video! My feeling is indeed probably bringing the price down of the aqua terra but rising the price of the SMP 300M but (BUT) after upgrade :) I guess it will be nice to see upgraded 300m diver this year but lets see what will happen.
Absolutely the movement and finishing. To me it’s more versatile with the quick set hour hand.. perfect travel timepiece.
I just think the main reason is because they can. It’s a more versatile watch and I think in the majority of people’s eyes it’s a better looking watch too. The diver is a lot more marmite with some people despising the escape valve for eg.
It is too expensive. But get an earlier 2500 calibre model second hand for an absolute fraction of the cost. It's slimmer and doesn't have the slightly irritating teak effect dial. Mine is 15 years old, still looks new, and runs perfectly.
Hi, thank you for this video.
Tbo, I have no clue why the pricing is the way it is, but I suddenly caught myself thinking that the Seamaster is way cooler than I thought it was. Hm.
Now I’m going to watch your other videos.
Take care!
Regards
John
Got the AT 41 two weeks ago- timezone function is quick hour set on the 8900 movement instead of the quick date set on 8800; I personally find the quick date set to be much more handy than the quick hour set.
Here's some cons you won't find until you dig deeper- the 8900 movement results in significantly higher resistance when you manually wind the crown! like the SMP300 is super smooth. I actually thought my AT was broken! also the crown shape - while it looks good, is painful to manually wind and screw in. small things, but things you notice!
True, I guess it takes more torque to wind 2 barrels instead of one. I agree with the crown shape, makes it annoying to screw down. I actually prefer the quick hour set since it actually can go backwards.
Recent AT 41 owner here too. I agree the crown is fiddly to screw out/in, but I can live with that. However, when I read your comment about the high resistance when winding the crown, I just tried it out, and wow, you're absolutely right! It definitely needs more torque to change the time compared to other watches I own. Great bit of detail spotting.
@@WibblyWizard thank you!! I’m a massive omega fan and have played around with enough watches to have realised hahah how are you enjoying your new AT? What color did you go for ?
@@adityabhaskar7552 I got the green dial. I really like it, and am wearing it daily at the moment.
@@lnielsen9866 the difference in accuracy is minuscule. It’s basically more prominent the less you wear your watch and the closer it is to losing all its juice. The double barrels distribute power more evenly and help maintain accuracy towards the end of the juice that the watch is packing - which is more uneven on the 8800
I’m new here, I absolutely love both, your accent and the Omega Aqua Terra.
Thanks for your warm welcome, now I’m gonna watch the video…. :-))
Regards
Your latest subscriber
Britt love your videos and thank you for making them with such a passion. On quick question, if one brand had to go between Omega, Rolex and Tudor, which one would it be and why?
Rolex and omega
Nice video, I'm a big fan of dive watch but I would buy the AT over the SM300 all day every day - the AT is just a beautiful beautiful watch
Like you, I have no idea on costs of manufacture or the psychology of price structures. All I know is that I have the AT 38mm in dark blue dial and the Planet Ocean 39.5mm with a blue dial. Both are amazing but very different watches. I think Omega is competing with other brands rather than its own models. That said, I got the PO 36 months ago when the price was £5560 so paying £5800 for the AT last month was painful! I have my name down for a Rolex Explorer so in the unlikely event that the AD phones me up to offer me the watch, I’ll need to sell one of my Omegas to afford it. My head says sell the AT but my heart says sell the PO
Every time I see the AT at my AD I’ve wondered the same thing! Thanks for exploring it, Britt.
😅💕💕 I’m glad I’m not the only one!!
As always great content Britt, and I still be an omega 2054.50 junkie!! Solid classic!! Saludos from Colombia
The AT has that Grand Seiko level of finishing on the hands and indices. My theory is on the finishing.
I think your use of subtle, soft Rembrandt light as your key light is 💯. However, I would like to see you use a longer lens on camera 1 as I feel like there’s a touch of foreshortening happening. Mikhaila Paterson took the advice (not necessarily from me) and I believe the result speaks for itself. I’d recommend using a lens equivalent to an 80~110mm on a full frame (24x36mm) camera. 👌🏻
I think the Seamaster 300 gives you the best of both the SMP and the AT: it combines the former’s robust diver’s aesthetic with the latter’s sophistication and 8900 movement… all on a superior bracelet to either.
Lol
Totally agree
does the Seamaster 300 have micro-adjust? Just wondering if that's why you're saying the bracelet is better ?
@@HughT93 The Seamaster 300 bracelet has a microadjust, has brushed center links instead of polished (unlike the AT), and is basically 25 years more advanced than the Diver 300's bracelet.
@@fraybentos9854 Thanks for the reply
I would get a Railmaster, so underrated! I just got a brand new one for £1800 under retail from Japan, inc taxes and love it!! A Co-Axial for that price is just an amazing bargain!
I'd say the fit, finish and bracelet on the Aqua are far better thn the 300
Omega pricing always has bamboozled me as well 🧐😂 but if they want to price the 300 less than the AT that’s fine by my wallet 🤩 Although JLC and IWC are the really insane pricers 🤯🤦♂️
Bahaha! This is just me being confused by Omega. ^_^ Love both of these watches!
Its actually very simple. The Aqua Terra 41 has a different and more expensive movement. The 38mm is just priced fitting the collection. Greetings from an omega AD.
Ahh thank you so much for this insight!! I’ll always take watch info from the omega insider! 😅💕
I owned AT with 8500 movement. Beautiful watch but I had issues with date change and hour hand jump modules. Maybe new 8900 is stronger there.
I believe I need to get an Aqua Terra in to review now! 🧐 I need to properly compare these! All opinions in this video are NULL UNTIL I REVIEW AN AT!
Britt, I just came from the Omega website,,the Diver 300 ranges in price from $1000 below to The sky’s the limit..James Bond Special edition is $10,000 to $12,000 and many models in the 7-9 K range
I have the 2019 AT 41 (grey with blued hands/indicies). Love absolutely everything about it, BUT lack of micro-adjustment on the bracelet. Total GADA watch 😁.
Great video. I went to try the new aqua terra in Omega’s boutique. I was very underwhelmed with the a.terra. I ended buying a planet ocean in white and a seamaster in blue.
I feel your analysis is very spot-on. Although as you humbly suggest "but what do I know" (me as well) 🙄👍
Own them both. Love them both. Never paid sticker, so no complaints. Omega Seamasters are all awesome. Better than most.
Totally agree! Am still puzzled with the higher priced ATs really. Especially the colored dial range launched last year which is priced at £6100, it's attractive but just so expensive and still a bit thick. Almost want to get one but nope, not quite there yet 😂
Right?! I understand the 8900 movement is a lot better! BUT this movement is only in the 41mm. 🧐 I love the AT! But i just don’t understand the pricing structure.
It’s history and economics. The Aqua Terra had the in house co-axial 8500 introduced in 2008 while the Seamaster Pro was still using the old 2500 cal (an ETA 2892 with co-axial escapement added). The Planet Ocean also got the new movement and a price bump. Then they kept raising the prices on the 8**** movement watches but kept the 2500D time flat and a lot lower. They had to do that, because if they sold it at the same price as a PO with a better movement, no one would have bought them. When they finally introduced the 8**** series in the diver 300m, they couldn’t bump the price too much, or no one would buy it, but go for the older model. It was the “cheap” Omega sports watch. They’ve bumped it up a little, but when they also jump the other lines, it will never catch up.
They consider the Planet Ocean and the Heritage 300 the “premium” dive watch and the Pro as the introductory diver.
Ahhh this is so helpful! Thank you. :)
I don't know. I paid my 39 mm blue 2503.80 first iteration 1.9K back 12 years ago. And it has no PCL - much better looking than later versions. Serviced 2021.
your vids make me feel v comfy when im stressed
Whaaat! This has made my day!
@@BrittPearceWatches yaaa you have a warmth to you, so when I listen I just calm down v quickly
Thanks Gringa for the vid, always enjoyable and good points all around! I personally have an appreciation for the AT, but sadly, not enough to purchase. 🤷🏻
Gah! I relate to this! I am getting closer with the new colourful dials tho!
@@BrittPearceWatches it’s a compelling option, no doubt!
Another fantastic video
£300 difference is £250 ex VAT. Which isn't that much. The price difference isn't necessarily about cost to produce. The recent multiple price rises may have caused this. I did see the AT last year and it was less expensive than the Diver 300. Secondly since I can afford a £5k watch a few hundred here and there doesn't matter.
Goldsmiths has the AT for £5.1k right now. Anyway, I think it just the price rises that have made the price differences bigger.
Ahhh thank you so much for this comment! Lots of great nuggets in here! 💕✨
Britt! Don't mind me, I am just here to feed the algorithm. As I think the SMP peaked with the 2254.50, I have never really dived into the Omega world. But now I will waste so much time just reading what I can about them. Thanks so much!! Long Live the Cult(s)!
My 2 cents: the 8900 movement with its jumping hour hand is meant to appeal to the Jetsetter crowd as an alternative to Rolex. The Seamaster is, as her Brittness correctly surmised, the entry level hook. They have to sacrifice movement sophistication for the bezel he valve etc.
Another perhaps less important factor is the non- tapering bracelet on the 300.
I would guess that some of the price difference could be put down to the economies of scale. I doubt Omega (or almost any other mass produced watch manufacturer) has a production line running for every watch type. They will run them in batches where there is a cost to set up and take down each a line for change in run. The 300M probably sells significantly more than the AT so the batch sizes of the AT build will be smaller so more cost for line set up and take down per watch. I've no idea how much this justifies an increase in manufacture cost but from my experience in industry smaller build cycles can make quite a difference depending on the volumes. Anyway it's good to draw attention to the reasoning behind the differences in price. Thanks for sharing.
It definitely the 8900 caliber that brings the price up, it’s the same one that’s on the planet ocean 600m.
Ahhh yes!
It might not be a better watch, but it is a much better-looking watch😂
🤣💕 look! I can’t disagree!
As someone who just sold his 3 years old SMP 300 and bought an Aqua Terra I can say that in my opinion both are amazing watches. Why does one cost more than the other? I honestly can’t say, i guess the simple answer is marketing and that not everything has to do with spec sheets, I mean why does the globemaster cost more than the AT? same movement, less water resistance etc..or why does the new 38 cost more then the 41? Who knows 😂 but yeah I love both watches, wish I could keep both. To me the AT has more luxuries (yet sporty) feeling and I would compare it to something like the Cartier Santos Large or the Rolex DJ, while the SMP is more of a sporty feeling and would compare to something like Rolex Sub.
Ahhh! Thank you so much for this comment! It’s so helpful when people who actually own the watches & have experience comment! 💕 how are you enjoying the AT?! Wear it in good health!
@@BrittPearceWatchesthank you very much I am enjoying it a lot (totally in an honey moon phase) for me what won me was the green dial, totally an home run imo.
Love your channel ❤ keep it up 👍
I think the average person would prefer the looks of the AT - so if they're just in the market for an Omega they'd go with that.
I also think your average watch guy who's worked their way up from casio, seiko, oris, tudor - and now wants to step it up a gear will already have a few dive watches. So I think they'd go with the AT for it's versatility.
Omega knows this so charge more for it to make more money! I'm soo looking forward to hopefully getting one at some point
I love this as I've often had the same thoughts. I'd buy an Aqua Terra, but at the current price point, I just can't go there. Hell, I have a Seiko SARB033 that is a true beater, years old and (gasp) is insanely accurate (yes, that is not a typo). In addition, so many wonderful micro brands are closing the gap. I'm never one to say something is overpriced because I don't know the inner costs, etc, but I will agree with you... why more than the 300m???? Just don't get it and at the current price point, I'd opt for just about anything else despite loving this watch.
The bigger domed sapphire cristal alone on the Aqua would cost more. And the jump hour hand is handy when you travel.
yea it is pretty crazy the 38mm version has the same movement, and is basically just less watch in every other way but costs more. It would make sense that if the SMP is 5900, the aqua terra 38 should be like 4k
Omega watches have never really done anything for me for one reason or another, but that small seconds AT changed that.
Luxury watch companies never lower MSRP’s. Don’t worry Brit Seamaster prices will go up ⬆️.
😭😭 only 3 things are certain in life: death, taxes and luxury brands raising MSRP
I had always assumed it was because of the 8900 caliber movement on the AT vs the 8800 caliber movement on the diver 300
Yes! Which holds water only for the 41mm 😜💕
@@BrittPearceWatches i think the 38mm is priced the same for uniformity although it should not be the case. 🤪
Ps: im not a fan of the jump hour hand movements because they give up quickset date function. For someone that rotates through a big pile of watches and lets them all wind down when not in use, having to jump the hour hand through midnight to move the date 1 day at a time is very time consuming😅
@@ryangochuicoNo quickset date is my absolute biggest pet peeve for an expensive watch with a date function. I'm having flashbacks to my first Timex quartz watch I bought in highschool and when I left it at home on vacation, then had to wind like 14 days worth of 24 hour cycles to fix the date. Never again.
@@SuLu_B haha yes agreed. The only way a jump hour without quickset date would work for me is if it was my only watch and i wore it daily and never let it stop running. That way i only have to worry about setting it on days that dont end in 31. Thats why im contemplating if i should get the longines spirit zulu hehe
Hi Britt Would you consider doing a video on top 5 affordable good quality watches with the most beautiful/impressive visible movements via their open caseback
The bracelet on these compared to the rather ancient D300 is far newer, so effectively more expensive to produce, so they offset the tooling for this upgrade. Which means the next gen of the D300 will come in at £6500+
I have just tried on the 38 mm Aqua Terra £6100. The bracelet is so thin with no micro adjust, it felt cheap. I am wearing the White dial Seamaster on bracelet which I paid £4500 one year ago, it is now £5500, and the watch is more substantial, £600 pound cheaper and has on the fly adjustment. Even with a different movement I can’t personally see how the Aqua Terra is a more expensive watch.
Now this is some awesome insights!
The Aqua Terra is the great all arounder - it can be worn in any situation.
It's because the AT had the upgraded coaxial movement before omega got around to installing it in the 300m (2500 caliber). And therefore the AT was priced more. And omega simply stuck with that pricing system because the price DID increase when the 300m got the 8800. BUT were the price to go up beyond the price of the AT....then there would be two problems:
1. The 300m would be just too expensive. The consumer might as well go buy a Rolex.
2. Very few people would figure out the justification for the 300m suddenly being more expensive than the AT. And that would frustrate. Therefore omega just retained a similar price comparison ratio.
It's interesting because Rolex does the opposite; A black Sub costs $10,250 here in the US and an oyster bracelet smooth bezel Datejust 41 is $8,050 ( granted Fluted gold bezel and jubilee takes you to $10,500 ) I do think they want to place the Aqua terra as a Datejust comp and the price helps steer you there.
Right?! I think you nailed it here!
INDICES instead of INDEXES. Wow! Respect, love, admiration and such things, in enormous quantities!
Great video, Britt. Random thought, but maybe Omega don't want rwo different watches at the same RRP so priced the AT higher given that the SMP will easily outsell it? And thats before we get into AD discounts... 😉
OUU I think you’re onto something here! 😱💕
The price is the only downside for me, although it still isn't too bad. I'd get an SM300 over the AT only if there was a 40mm option.
Good call out on the price difference. Fully agree that the diver should cost more. From a manufacturing standpoint, my guess is that the economies of scale they get from manufacturing and assembling the Diver brings down the unit cost significantly… I’m making the assumption that the total diver quantity is exponentially greater than the 300. Whatever the reason is, it keeps me out of the 300 permanently. At retail, I will always choose an OP41 over this watch. And for all the Rolex haters, yes I can and do get Rolexes from my AD without spending on things I don’t want.
Welcome to team Omega Britt!!! 😂 All I know is the Aqua Terra is the epitome of effortless sporty elegance for me. Don't make them reconsider thd lower price of the Seamaster 300 diver! A major Swiss brand bringing a price down? Not gonna happen these days! 😬
Another reason the AT is probably higher in price due to using white gold hour hands and indices while the 300 doesn’t.
It's not that the Aqua Terra is more expensive, it's that the Diver 300 price increases were less.......plus they have to keep the price of the D300M down to compensate for the FUGLY NON-TAPERED BRACELET :D Fun vid, thanks WG......
Ahhhh now this is such great insights! AND I CANT DISAGREE ON THE BRACELET ! 🤣🤣🤣 I know omega can do better!!!
My pre-Bond Seamaster from 1992 has a jumping hour hand. Thought this was common to most Omegas except the Speedy. Consider me educated.
You’re clueless
Love “ editing Britney” giving little updates. I’ve always viewed the Aqua Terra as entry level in my eye.
Sometimes you have to pay for looks. The Aqua Terra is a hot looking watch.
Very true! 😍 so versatile!
I suspect a lot of people are going to dislike hearing this, but here it is: the Diver 300 is, and always has been, Omega's entry-level watch. It has *always* been the cheapest Omega, the least expensive way you could buy a real-deal Omega watch. It wasn't even 5 years ago that you could have a brand new Diver 300 for under US$4000 FROM AN AD WITH THE FULL FACTORY WARRANTY (bit of haggling required, granted). If you want a better diver from Omega then now you're looking at either the Seamaster 300 (heritage) or the Planet Ocean line.
Also, I disagree that the closest competitor to the Diver 300 is the Rolex Sub. No, it's the Tudor Black Bay series. The Sub is more comparable to the 300 heritage or Plant Ocean line.
Love the hair today - looking amazing ❤
Britt, do you like the increased use of polishing that they have introduced to the AT?
Agree totally that the AT/Seamaster relative pricing is really odd, but the former just has too many lil things that I dislike, despite it being an attractive watch.
Ok! So, I think the high polishing is what makes it special! BUT the big reason I love my OP as my daily "Go anywhere do anything" watch is because of the brushing! ^_^ Although, I don't mind a bit of high polish! I feel like I could justify owning both! ;)
the helium escape valve is the cost penalty (to Omega) to entice people to buy it.
Movement maybe, I think the main reason is just that the AT has had more recent model updates. When the next iteration of the SMP comes out it’s going to be 6500 upwards
You know! This is such a fair point! Thank you so much for this. 💕✨
Yes the 1st ever Omega I tried on just to get a feel of the size, was a Aqua terra .Was hooked on Omega ever since. Did end up with a speedmaster and a Smp in black. Never walking into a rolex shop ever again.
I own multiple models from both brands. Rolex is hands down the better built watch.
I‘m not sure if the longer running time of 60 hours is an advantage of the new Aqua Terra. The price for this is, that it‘s running with 3,5 Hz while the older one ( and the Diver 300m) is running with 4 Hz. This makes a watch more accurately and less susceptible for externe moves. Omega copied herewith the technology Tissot used to prolong the running time of the „Gentleman“ Ton 70 hours.
I'm an Omega fanboy. But their prices can kick rocks.
Gah! Right?!
Love your vids. I agree with your thesis. If like for like for ex. OP/Datejust then +$(£) for Sub then AT +$ for SM. Maybe Omega sees the AT as a direct competitor to OP/Datejust so they can justify $ since it’s much less than Rolex
The jumping hour hand is key for me. I'd pay the extra money for that, but that's all.
Yes! Totally agree! I also love the double barrel. I think the 41mm movement is key!
Omega ruined the diver 300m with the last update when they increased its size. They should have left it at 41mm.
The last update improved it in my opinion. They didn’t de facto ruin it. Only in your opinion.
@@markr3926 not just my opinion. Lots of people prefer the the previous versions.
@@whereRbearsTeeth And yet they have sold absolutely loads of them. Lots of people prefer it, I do, I bought two. 👍🏻
@@markr3926 yea, that’s why they’re 25% on Jomashop lol.
Both great watches, but I would agree with you Gringa… the price point just doesn’t make a lot of sense.
It’s about Fing time you swiped a new video idea to run with!
There is no rhyme or reason behind luxury watch pricing. It is more of "what can we get away with?" I do like a jumping hour hand and wish more three handers had that feature. Cheers!
🤣 I think you’re exactly right!!
1) Greed 2) Make it more appealing to mass so make it more expensive 3) recoup costs on manufacturing
Amen! I think you’ve got it!
I’ve always kind of agreed with this logic, but to be fair….a steel 41m DJ with fluted bezel costs more than a sub date…
Probably down to the precious metal.
Yeah, exactly. Aqua Terra is an amazing watch. The Aqua Terra and the railmaster are some of my favorite Omega watches. The pricing is wrong, that is the biggest problem.
It costs more because they can get away with it, they are in business to make money, not watches. The selling price has very little to do with manufacturing costs.
Why do a watch comparison when you didn’t even handled the aqua terra in person… go to a omega ad try it on then make the video please
Aqua Terra in Green is a very beautiful Watch.
I agree with the basic point here. I think the obvious solution is to leave the 41mm pricing higher, given the 8900 movement, and bring the standard 38mm (with the 8800 mov't) down to Diver 300 pricing, perhaps charging a bit more for premium colorways on the 38mm if they wanted. But I don't know what the AT sales figures look like, nor do I know how much elasticity of demand exists. I'll bet Omega does.
Right?! I couldn’t agree more with everything here!
Watching you while waiting to receive my 41 AT back from repair due to hours hand malfunction , unfortunately I have a second one in half gold and hope it doesn't have the same problem 😢sorry Omega but an unhappy customer here with 4 Omegas in the collection ( 2254.50 and speedmaster professional ).
Oh noooo! I’m so sorry to hear this!!! 💕💕💕 how long is it meant to be gone for?! 😣💕 but hey! You own my all time favourite omega, the 2254.50!
@@BrittPearceWatches Almost a month, my problem is that I really like Omega and had faith in their quality standards after having the 2254.50 for 15 years with zero issues or even maintenance.
This take is on point (I hope Omega doesn't get the idea to raise the 300M price from it though LOL). I personally prefer the authenticity of the 300M to the Aqua Terra (outdated bracelet and superfluous gas escapement valve notwithstanding), it is a genuine tool watch design. The Aqua Terra for me is a "Jack of All Trades, Master of None" (and the finishing is overdone imho).
Your 3rd point is correct - the 300SMP is a bit of a "loss leader" for the brand. They most likely do not make as much profit off the 300SMP as other watches - but it gets people to buy their first Omega and like you said become a "gateway" for their other watches.
What’s your source for this? Or is it speculation? Your first statement seems like you’re stating a fact, but then you go on to say “likely”….. I’m not being confrontational by the way, I’m just interested to know if this is indeed fact or theory?
@@watchpapi Mostly speculation - I doubt the company would ever openly say that they're offering a "loss leader" product. I do remember hearing the CEO of Omega admitting that the SMP is the best selling model for the company despite the fact that most people associate the Speedmaster as the brand's most iconic watch.
@@stephen9609 yeah, I can see that being the case, certainly where we live/bars and restaurants we frequent, it’s the most popular watch around.
@@stephen9609 thought you might have insider knowledge/wrk for or know someone who worked for Omega.
idk what are the sales figures but i would assume they sell more SMPs than ATs so maybe there's an economy of scale advantage
I think you’re right! (As someone who also doesn’t know the sales figures! I’m just an enthusiast with a camera! 😅)
If Omega would only offer the 41mm Aqua Terra (with the better movement) and offer the sunburst colors of the 38 mm watch on the 41mm and give you the option to choose the 38mm version of the bracelet (kind of like Oyster vs Jubilee choice). I'd buy it right now in a "take my money please" fashion.