VILLAINS - Villainous Writing Advice

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  • @matthewmabry1709
    @matthewmabry1709 4 роки тому +5812

    Bad writing is the greatest villain of all. No matter how mighty the franchise, bad writing can consume it.

    • @librathebeautifulwarmonk1283
      @librathebeautifulwarmonk1283 4 роки тому +280

      Don't forget appealing to the lowest common denominator so its still popular despite it being shit

    • @ChaosRayZero
      @ChaosRayZero 4 роки тому +112

      _All hail the omnipresent evil of the mighty _*_love triangle_*_ that never gets a conclusion! All hail the infinite will-they-or-won't-theys!_

    • @jfr9964
      @jfr9964 4 роки тому +46

      Ehm Ehm Season 8

    • @nocktukdaze8256
      @nocktukdaze8256 4 роки тому +89

      -Disney Star Wars-

    • @BlackCover95
      @BlackCover95 4 роки тому +30

      Followed by its closest rival: Market Demand.

  • @nobody2996
    @nobody2996 4 роки тому +7108

    I want to point out that these villains, while talking about what they love, are standing in a triangle...

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 4 роки тому +520

      also a bit silly of them to explain their plans in detail to the protagonist just before leaving then in a hopeless situation dangling over a pit of flame spiders to tend with the final details and sign off on the last few bits of their master plan of world domination giving the hero a chance to escape or be aided by a clever animal sidekick who has stolen the key that will insure the world is saved from dark domination

    • @ilikepie21234
      @ilikepie21234 4 роки тому +326

      I ship it

    • @swishfish8858
      @swishfish8858 4 роки тому +299

      wait but that's symbolism
      you can't do that

    • @epicwyvern8713
      @epicwyvern8713 4 роки тому +163

      its the
      LOVE TRIANGLE!!!

    • @NathanTAK
      @NathanTAK 4 роки тому +83

      Dammit! Should've arranged those 3 individuals into some other shape!

  • @gallusdomesticus1869
    @gallusdomesticus1869 4 роки тому +5391

    "Sarcasm, Sarcasm, Self deprecating joke, Love Triangle!"

  • @Rainbowthewindsage
    @Rainbowthewindsage 4 роки тому +2369

    "It doesn’t matter how flawless the scheme was, how impregnable the fortress or powerful the magical weapon, it always ends with a band of adolescents shouting utter platitudes as they tear it all down. The game is rigged so that we lose, every single time. Half the world, turned into a prop for the glory of the other half." - Black Knight, Practical Guide to Evil

    • @draconianwarking
      @draconianwarking 4 роки тому +105

      I recall a instance in that story where the main character refused the brutally pragmatic option of a preemptive rampage into the enemies backlines, i recommend this series where the main character does exactly that as his first action in restoring his civilization (available for free as ebook) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_General_series

    • @FatherTime89
      @FatherTime89 4 роки тому +32

      Reminds me of this sketch ua-cam.com/video/CApIobs1oss/v-deo.html

    • @watchermagic5325
      @watchermagic5325 4 роки тому +10

      I am so looking that up

    • @Rainbowthewindsage
      @Rainbowthewindsage 4 роки тому +55

      @@watchermagic5325 I should warn you that the story while still pretty good in the beginning, is a bit roughly written at first and having reread some of the earlier parts, it's clear the author has gotten better over time.

    • @invenblocker
      @invenblocker 4 роки тому +17

      This is why Tarquin from the Order of the Stick is top tier villain design.

  • @jaytonius560
    @jaytonius560 4 роки тому +4334

    No villain could ever top the dreaded love triangle!

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 4 роки тому +95

      Seconded, especially when the love triangle eclipses the far more compelling main plot!

    • @hatsunememekuoisaneet
      @hatsunememekuoisaneet 4 роки тому +33

      Why tf did I think this was gonna be some jojo reference

    • @jaytonius560
      @jaytonius560 4 роки тому +7

      Hatsune Memeku Who’s Jojo?

    • @hatsunememekuoisaneet
      @hatsunememekuoisaneet 4 роки тому +16

      Jayton S. You *what now*

    • @jaytonius560
      @jaytonius560 4 роки тому +4

      Hatsune Memeku Care to explain?

  • @truegopnik6591
    @truegopnik6591 4 роки тому +3392

    The evilest thing he could have done at the end would have to have the sponsor be RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS.

    • @baddgerpaw
      @baddgerpaw 4 роки тому +226

      Dude I agree, but have you actually played Raid Shadow Legends the most ambitious mobile rpg game? I already have a level 69 hero that looks amazing with these graphics that put console RPGs a run for their money. But yeah it can get annoying

    • @cthulhufhtagn2483
      @cthulhufhtagn2483 4 роки тому +126

      And then the three-minute ad with all the same lines that you know RSL tells them to say? Tell me about it.

    • @somewackoonyoutube2449
      @somewackoonyoutube2449 4 роки тому +17

      @True Gopnik Or do something related to love triangles ;)

    • @gagne6928
      @gagne6928 4 роки тому +51

      @@baddgerpaw i know right? And you can get 100,000 silver FOR FREE using the code "dumpy"

    • @maadtee6281
      @maadtee6281 4 роки тому +3

      @@baddgerpaw I prefer darkness rises

  • @kingtysonsworld
    @kingtysonsworld 4 роки тому +5855

    okay but when the villains are developed better than the heros tho

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 4 роки тому +455

      Indeed, sometimes it's more fun to root for Johnny over Daniel-San, or Darth Vader over Luke!

    • @CCLOSPINA
      @CCLOSPINA 4 роки тому +396

      Loki over Thor
      and
      Zuko of avatar

    • @roach9397
      @roach9397 4 роки тому +228

      Then you’ve written The Dark Knight

    • @moonriverbaby4108
      @moonriverbaby4108 4 роки тому +133

      Like the Joker. Or Black Panther.

    • @erica8952
      @erica8952 4 роки тому +31

      Like Daredevil

  • @immikeurnot
    @immikeurnot 4 роки тому +807

    "In the '80s, that was another word for 'product placement.'"
    Ow, right in the childhood!

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 4 роки тому +39

      *giggles in 90s child*

    • @dandanthedandan7558
      @dandanthedandan7558 4 роки тому +29

      *Stands idly in zoomer generation*

    • @BonaparteBardithion
      @BonaparteBardithion 4 роки тому +34

      @@jaschabull2365
      '90's Cartoon is just another word for Public Service Announcement.

    • @alidaraie
      @alidaraie 4 роки тому +6

      @@BonaparteBardithion OOF

    • @synflwr
      @synflwr 4 роки тому +23

      *smiles awkwardly as a 2000’s child*

  • @TheManOfManyNames373
    @TheManOfManyNames373 4 роки тому +5004

    Don't forget to redeem the villains by the end of the story, regardless of how many people they killed or property they damaged! They realize that what they did was wrong, and that's all that matters!
    I mean, we could just kill them, but everyone really likes the villains, and I can't just kill fan favorite characters!

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 4 роки тому +104

      Kyle Wainwright xehanooooooort

    • @luizfelipevbf5567
      @luizfelipevbf5567 4 роки тому +142

      Discord at the end of MLP.

    • @ailius1520
      @ailius1520 4 роки тому +648

      That's easy! Just reveal that the villain wasn't the *real* villain, merely being controlled by another villain who was in turn being controlled by an evil nebulous cloud of hate.

    • @billtenth5805
      @billtenth5805 4 роки тому +364

      Guys, I'm pretty sure redemption arks deserve a video of their own

    • @hunchoa2972
      @hunchoa2972 4 роки тому +188

      Am not really a fan of the villain being reedemed at the end of the story. A lot of times it feels forced. And almost never works.

  • @farragoprismproductions3337
    @farragoprismproductions3337 4 роки тому +360

    *"Yeah, we got this. This should be as easy as destroying an entire planet in order to stop a single rebel strike team"*
    on point

    • @KrimzonFlygon1
      @KrimzonFlygon1 3 роки тому +15

      The idea behind that move was “Destroy a planet to stop every rebellion on every planet ever: don’t step out of line or we’ll blow yo whole planet up, like we did with Not-Alderaan”.
      It backfired, but I can see the logic: why waste time with troop occupation when looming despair and crabbucket mentality can crush rebellions for you.

    • @nenmaster5218
      @nenmaster5218 2 роки тому +1

      @@KrimzonFlygon1 Evil cause Evil is Boring;
      such a simple Thing to understand.
      Right, Hollywood? Chris Chibnal?
      ...Hello?
      Why is no one answering? Hello, Chris? Kennedy?
      All Jokes aside, if you like Channels like this, Krimson Rogue roasting Empress Theresa and Onision
      should be Fun for you; do with that what you will. And: Ever thought of becoming a Writer yourself?

  • @isucc3512
    @isucc3512 4 роки тому +897

    I'm going to call J.P "love triangle man" now

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 4 роки тому +495

    Unironic advice here, you don’t have to give your villain a complex or sympathetic motivation(s) for them to be interesting. It’s absolutely okay to have your villain to just be evil so long as they’re developed and memorable.

  • @thekaticorn99
    @thekaticorn99 4 роки тому +680

    Villain: *destroys the world*
    Comic Relief Character: *Z A P P E R S*

    • @platinumchromee3191
      @platinumchromee3191 2 роки тому +16

      But what if my comic relief character is a villain?
      I guess he destroys world for a joke

    • @christopher.k.kasandajr9979
      @christopher.k.kasandajr9979 Рік тому +4

      I just giggled. That's so true! The zapper is invincible!

    • @yukishiro3287
      @yukishiro3287 25 днів тому +1

      ​@@platinumchromee3191 Not sure but isn't Joker also that type of guy though? Interesting idea though

    • @xavierthomas5835
      @xavierthomas5835 10 днів тому

      ​@yukishiro3287 Sadly, that's the old jokers. The new jokers are all quite angst-personified. This comes from a need to delve into why he thinks the way he does. Old jokers didn't need backstories, full of pain, abuse, or dead loved ones. They were just strangely evil, and they made a joke out of everything, especially if it was somebody's life.

    • @yukishiro3287
      @yukishiro3287 10 днів тому +1

      @@xavierthomas5835 I understand. I mean I feel like I still prefer the old Jokers not having backstories and they do what they do just for shits and giggles. But I'm guessing that the problem with fiction is that some stuff need to make sense and some villains doing evil for evil is kinda no longer compelling? I mean it probably seems more understandable if Joker has an actual angsty backstory for which kinda explains how Harley got easily brainwashed (unless Joker just made a sad backstory; then in that case, he'd be a really good storyteller). I don't remember though

  • @SharpDesign
    @SharpDesign 4 роки тому +622

    Sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm..
    Self deprecating joke
    *Love Triangle*

    • @GzheGzheGzhe
      @GzheGzheGzhe 3 роки тому +13

      Comment section:
      Stolen Comment, Stolen Comment, Stolen Comment
      Origina- Got you! Stolen comment
      Reddit meme reference.

    • @TeatroGrotesco
      @TeatroGrotesco 3 роки тому +1

      Since I saw this comment earlier, how many HULU shows are you the head writer for anyway?

  • @playererror4044
    @playererror4044 4 роки тому +333

    While true that villians do need a motive its worth noting it doesn't have to be deep or complex. The only real requirement is the audiance really buys that the villian wants it.

    • @legrandliseurtri7495
      @legrandliseurtri7495 4 роки тому +42

      I feel satisfied about how one of my main villain ended up being. It's a princess, piss-off about how limited the power of the monarchy has become, and when she see a big empire conquering and then "educating" it's colonies, she becames both obsess about the founder of the empire and about surpassing him. When she becomes queen, she slowly takes back the power and begins organizing her people into a massive army, with the goal to beat the empire she tries to model.
      It's basically a complex explanation for the basic "I want power", which I think is cool.

    • @ChaosRayZero
      @ChaosRayZero 4 роки тому +54

      An example I read here in the comments somewhere compared it to a small kid stealing cookies from a cookie jar without permission, then lying about it.
      Their motive for bad (or "evil") behavior wasn't complicated at all- they were hungry, they like cookies, if they followed the rules they wouldn't get those cookies, then they lied because they didn't want to get in trouble- *but even an extremely simple motive like that **_makes perfect sense. It's still a motive,_* even if onlookers will argue over whether or not it's a good one.

    • @BlackCover95
      @BlackCover95 4 роки тому +14

      ChaosRayZero
      The term they were probably looking for was a _defined_ motivation.

    • @nicholasnelson8641
      @nicholasnelson8641 4 роки тому +1

      @@legrandliseurtri7495 Sounds like Edelgard from Fire Emblem: Three Houses

    • @legrandliseurtri7495
      @legrandliseurtri7495 4 роки тому +1

      @@nicholasnelson8641 I never actually played fire emblem. What kind of game is it?

  • @RJLbwb
    @RJLbwb 4 роки тому +674

    Three villains; that's a triangle, were is JP going with this, I'm scared?

    • @BonaparteBardithion
      @BonaparteBardithion 4 роки тому +66

      Well, we weren't thinking it before. But now the ships have sailed. 😘
      Edit: Also, Rule of Three.

    • @heleneandersson7649
      @heleneandersson7649 4 роки тому +43

      I ship it.

    • @aikotitilai3820
      @aikotitilai3820 4 роки тому +16

      Personnally I really like the relationship of the Dark Lord and the Baron.

  • @EricHeidenAuthor
    @EricHeidenAuthor 4 роки тому +746

    Who else thinks J.P. let himself get captured as part of a nefarious plot to trick all three villains into doing the video for him?
    That would make him the greatest evil mastermind of them all.

    • @travissmith2848
      @travissmith2848 4 роки тому +58

      Or a great puppet master hero. Think about it: would not the natural conclusion of them going through his notes be that they end up defeating themselves?

    • @EricHeidenAuthor
      @EricHeidenAuthor 3 роки тому +13

      @Nick HB Good point, but if he's an anti-hero, I want him to end up in a love triangle where that brunette pony tail girl that keeps showing up has to choose between him and the Inner Critic

    • @EricHeidenAuthor
      @EricHeidenAuthor 3 роки тому +5

      @Nick HB No. I meant Mary Sue, although I think she's died multiple times.

    • @iexist1300
      @iexist1300 3 роки тому +6

      He is lazy enough to do that.

    • @Wampao
      @Wampao 3 роки тому +5

      @@EricHeidenAuthor Mary Sue doesn't die, she simply respawns using the power of authorial bias

  • @ArtichokeAnarchy
    @ArtichokeAnarchy 4 роки тому +2119

    The only villain here is me for wasting my own time watching videos instead of working on my story

  • @praetorian9823
    @praetorian9823 4 роки тому +887

    Reusing a comment I've seen earlier:
    A villain must have a motive,
    A good villain has a sympathetic motive,
    A great villain's motives are probably better than yours.

    • @legrandliseurtri7495
      @legrandliseurtri7495 4 роки тому +6

      O_o

    • @AegixDrakan
      @AegixDrakan 4 роки тому +12

      Oh that's a good one.

    • @Abyzz_Knight
      @Abyzz_Knight 4 роки тому +183

      Villains don't need to be sympathetic to be good.
      Joker is a good example. He's a crazed lunatic who causes death and destruction with no actual backstory (most of the time) who wants to beat Batman ideologically. It's great to see what he'll do next to try to break Batman.

    • @praetorian9823
      @praetorian9823 4 роки тому +42

      @@Abyzz_Knight I get that, you are right. I just mean in most circumstances if you can write a compelling complex villain, it'll immerse you way more. Writing another Joker like character is not exactly an easy task

    • @praetorian9823
      @praetorian9823 4 роки тому +43

      Abyss Knight then again all villains are. At the same time though Joker is someone who is so... perfectly balanced. He’s difficult because if you even slightly mess up your writing he turns into a total Joke (sorry for being, punny) but if you try too hard he turns into a total edgelord (see Injustice 2). He is a very niche character, well balanced and fantastic, but he also wouldn’t work in a lot of stories, him being too excessive or unexplained.

  • @ChemoshKamos
    @ChemoshKamos 4 роки тому +441

    "What are Saturday morning cartoons?"
    "In the 80's, it was another word for product placement."
    I laughed so hard I started coughing uncontrollably

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 4 роки тому +17

      *i remember looking forward to saturday morning cartoons...sigh..yeah, i'm really that old*

    • @canaisyoung3601
      @canaisyoung3601 4 роки тому +10

      Then what were SatAM cartoons in the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 90s?

    • @Archon3960
      @Archon3960 Рік тому

      @@canaisyoung3601 An anomaly. 😎

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
    @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 4 роки тому +2189

    Oh surprise, surprise. An excuse for a bunch of villains to talk at us about what they're all about. Monologuing about what they're doing. _How refreshing._

    • @nomobobby
      @nomobobby 4 роки тому +112

      About as surprising as the heros crashing in t-minus 5 minutes and stopping the villains dead in their tracks. Even when they have millions working for them that would likely continue the plan no matter what, it all comes crashing down when the villain is shot dead. *Cut* before far reaching consequences of said death starts setting in.

    • @valkaerie8715
      @valkaerie8715 4 роки тому +29

      Say, you ever gave that moustache a twirl?

    • @dubuyajay9964
      @dubuyajay9964 4 роки тому +17

      "You expect me to monologue like a cheap RKO villain if I had any chance of failing? I did it 15 minutes ago."

    • @aster-naut
      @aster-naut 4 роки тому +3

      Just Some Guy with a Mustache That was _savage_

    • @kannakamui2334
      @kannakamui2334 4 роки тому +5

      It's you! It's been a while since I've seen you.

  • @mrgears3045
    @mrgears3045 4 роки тому +340

    [Count Dooku voice] “I’ve been looking forward to this.”

    • @cthulhufhtagn2483
      @cthulhufhtagn2483 4 роки тому +5

      Master Kenobi, you disappoint me.

    • @malahamavet
      @malahamavet 4 роки тому

      Just wanted to say I heared The clone wars series voice. Not the films, not the 2d show one, the greatest one😁

    • @Bilboswaggins2077
      @Bilboswaggins2077 4 роки тому

      Sylveon *I’ve been looking forward to this

    • @mrgears3045
      @mrgears3045 4 роки тому

      Bilbo Swaggins I knew it felt a bit wrong , thanks

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 4 роки тому +1

      *leaps back in horror then suddenly points over persons left shoulder and shouts "LOOK OUT!!! then says "FOOLED YOU!!! in Lord Helmets voice before whipping out his Force™ Card™*

  • @itsy-bitsyspider4172
    @itsy-bitsyspider4172 4 роки тому +1234

    JP- "Alright, i can see, that i'll have to teach you, how to write villains!" *Epic sax*

    • @unicorninvader8783
      @unicorninvader8783 4 роки тому +66

      Here’s a little lesson in Bad Writing!
      This book is going down in history!

    • @Chimeratech_O.D.
      @Chimeratech_O.D. 4 роки тому +53

      *Plays a Love Triangle*

    • @dr.spaghetti1973
      @dr.spaghetti1973 4 роки тому +44

      Look at this cliche
      Which I just found
      When I say ‘ight
      Get ready to write

    • @dubuyajay9964
      @dubuyajay9964 4 роки тому +33

      @@dr.spaghetti1973 Write!
      *Makes silly doodles.*
      What are you doing!? Ugh! Let's try something else!

    •  4 роки тому +26

      @@unicorninvader8783 If you want to write a villain number 1,
      You have to chase the clichés on the run!

  • @ChaosRayZero
    @ChaosRayZero 4 роки тому +226

    6:10 I remember an English teacher making us read and discuss a printed article blaming Japan, and more directly Pokémon, for bringing "half-hour long commercials for toys that kids mistake for entertainment" to America.
    When the teacher asked for opinions about the article, I told her that the Pokémon _video games (which the author neglected to mention the existence of, let alone that they predated the show)_ were first released in Japan *long after the invention of My Little Pony and G.I. Joe,* and that I didn't approve of the author's lack of research.

    • @tsm688
      @tsm688 Рік тому +7

      Ha, yeah, Japan imported that idea from us!

    • @tompatterson1548
      @tompatterson1548 Рік тому +7

      Pokemon was clearly not originally a commercial. It was a video game first, then the merchandise came afterwards.

    • @ChaosRayZero
      @ChaosRayZero Рік тому

      @@tompatterson1548 _I know, right?_ 😣

  • @nexik680
    @nexik680 4 роки тому +202

    I met JP at AWA (anime weekend atlanta) and asked him if he would do a villain episode and I'm glad he finally made this. He said that there are two types of villains, ones that do it too gain something, and ones who do it because it feels good to them. JP if your reading this, thanks for making this and giving me these "terrible" advice! and I hope you had a chance to read that Book me and my team made (boundless manga), I hope you liked it and also hope we did the villains right. I hope to make better villains in the future of the Boundless series! also I'm almost done reading your book. (What is Hans up too?....) I hope we can meet again so you can sigh it!

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому +24

      I should add that sadistic villains commonly are underlings, who basically use authority to torture people or simply show off. But in such case you still need someone with level head to give them actual excuse for the job, as otherwise minions would not fallow him.

    • @nexik680
      @nexik680 4 роки тому +2

      @@TheRezro thanks!

  • @darken_gacha
    @darken_gacha 4 роки тому +641

    They are the best trio ever and are so funny together

  • @Fluffkitscripts
    @Fluffkitscripts 4 роки тому +247

    I have to disagree somewhat on the “power isn’t a motivation” thing. A villain with an almost neurotic compulsion to aggregate power out of a deep-seated fear of powerlessness could be interesting.
    Plus, you know, the compulsion to aggregate political power and/or money has been the driving motivation behind nearly every major villain in the acclaimed series we call real life.

    • @milicadiy
      @milicadiy 4 роки тому +8

      Thanks. I might use this.

    • @Archon3960
      @Archon3960 Рік тому +2

      I don't think DL thought that far ahead. X)

    • @Imperials3nate
      @Imperials3nate Рік тому +7

      I actually have a good backstory tie-in for the powerlust of a villain, or any hubristic character: the forgotten child. They were ignored by society no matter the good or bad, forcing them to find notice be it good or bad.

    • @Fluffkitscripts
      @Fluffkitscripts Рік тому +8

      @@Imperials3nate I have to disagree. That would probably leave them craving attention, and someone with way too much power desperately trying to make people like them is just Elon Musk.

    • @RealLotto
      @RealLotto Рік тому +2

      Vergil from the Special Edition™ series

  • @pandabuluk
    @pandabuluk 4 роки тому +877

    "I see i have to teach you how to be... VILLAINS!"

  • @greencomet2011
    @greencomet2011 4 роки тому +2295

    “One death is a tragedy. One million is a statistic” - Joseph Stalin

    • @hunchoa2972
      @hunchoa2972 4 роки тому +66

      That as the most hyborcriteally qoute ever thing my a human being.

    • @Abyzz_Knight
      @Abyzz_Knight 4 роки тому +200

      @@hunchoa2972 umm what?

    • @FieryMeltman
      @FieryMeltman 4 роки тому +154

      @@hunchoa2972 Speak English, please.

    • @hunchoa2972
      @hunchoa2972 4 роки тому +24

      @@FieryMeltman Excuse my bad grammar.

    • @hunchoa2972
      @hunchoa2972 4 роки тому +124

      @@Abyzz_Knight What I was trying to say it is that. Josephiln Stalin is a hyborcrite for saying that quote. Since he was a ruthless dictator whose kill count got into the millions.

  • @cyanrosespirit
    @cyanrosespirit 4 роки тому +538

    Me, 30s after upload, seeing 6 'first' comments: y'all are the real villains

    • @hunchoa2972
      @hunchoa2972 4 роки тому +10

      Are the 6th comment I see. *So you must be the real villain here.*

    • @cyanrosespirit
      @cyanrosespirit 4 роки тому +11

      @@hunchoa2972 6 always was my lucky number... Trust no one, not even yourself

    • @LordTalax
      @LordTalax 4 роки тому +3

      Not villains just idiots

    • @pussinboots838
      @pussinboots838 4 роки тому +2

      @@LordTalax they're both

  • @OokamiKageGinGetsu
    @OokamiKageGinGetsu 4 роки тому +93

    "What's a 'Saturday Morning cartoon'?"
    "In the '80s that was another word for 'product placement'."
    I grew up in the '80s, and that is 100% accurate.

    • @All2Meme
      @All2Meme 4 роки тому +4

      Now Saturday mornings are wall-to-wall news shows, which are even more farcical than the cartoons were...

  • @ProfessorBright
    @ProfessorBright 4 роки тому +93

    I love that "Pathetic Love Triangle Man" is JP's unofficial title throughout this series.

  • @randomimperialguardsmanfor9342
    @randomimperialguardsmanfor9342 4 роки тому +291

    What about a love triangle with the villain

    • @stevenbobbybills
      @stevenbobbybills 4 роки тому +57

      Happens all the time. Especially when the villain is female, doubly so if they're a general or something working below a more evil old guy.

    • @moonriverbaby4108
      @moonriverbaby4108 4 роки тому +13

      You basically would have an Alpha Hero story.

    • @TealWolf26
      @TealWolf26 4 роки тому +19

      Pretty much all of the time. Then the villain turns good and teams up with the Fabio harem and fight the REAL villain.

    • @asalways1504
      @asalways1504 4 роки тому +20

      love triangles are always good when the villain is involved. That way you can include a back story where the villain was once the best friend of the love interest and the protagonist but then mysteriously died and then then reveals that he has turned into the villain!

    • @sirius6738
      @sirius6738 4 роки тому +7

      Hokuto no Ken did better: a love hexagon with the villains and the heroes being in love with one chick

  • @evenlysquared3797
    @evenlysquared3797 4 роки тому +357

    Opens youtube
    sees a new terrible writing advice
    "Ooh looks like the pathetic love triangle man has uploaded again"

  • @xeaxanthyxo
    @xeaxanthyxo 4 роки тому +167

    Even though everyone of these characters are clearly parodies of aged and outdated tropes, I still like the Dark Lord guy :v

    • @BlackCover95
      @BlackCover95 4 роки тому +34

      The benefit of archetypes is that they are familiar, and thus require less introduction.

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 4 роки тому +20

      @@BlackCover95 But archetypes are hardly static, which is why they are always changing for the times and cultures that come into and out of prominence. I feel like that one gets overlooked when people complain about new stories.

    • @BlackCover95
      @BlackCover95 4 роки тому +4

      Johnathon Haney
      I understood the first half of that. I don’t understand the second sentence. WDYM?

    • @mompickmeupimscared2080
      @mompickmeupimscared2080 4 роки тому +6

      I like Baron most, but yes I agree

    • @tsm688
      @tsm688 Рік тому

      @@BlackCover95 I **think** he meant that the "Dark Lord" stereotype is surprisingly new. That's a Lord of the Rings wannabe, nobody would recognize a Ming the Merciless these days

  • @FibonacciPasta
    @FibonacciPasta 4 роки тому +868

    “Come to the dark side, we have cookies!”

    • @johnappleseed6608
      @johnappleseed6608 4 роки тому +4

      Ninjazzy hearthstone

    • @kayhaych05
      @kayhaych05 4 роки тому +19

      On my way

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 4 роки тому +14

      Yay, anything for cookies!😋🍪

    • @jackbennett6902
      @jackbennett6902 4 роки тому +28

      With one notable exception. In RWBY fandom, the light side is the one with cookies. The dark side has ice cream.

    • @purplehostofrain1901
      @purplehostofrain1901 4 роки тому +10

      Come to the dark side, we have Pop Tarts.

  • @jackbenimble4903
    @jackbenimble4903 4 роки тому +288

    Remember all Villains must be as comically evil as possible, even if it completely breaks immersion and suspension of disbelief because no one is that ridiculous.
    The man sisterly betrays the hero, why did he need the money? To buy slaves so he could build a death ray that will ultimately destroy all life as we know it. Of course he will still try to steal the hero’s love interest for some obligatory reason and punt a puppy for good measure.

    • @asher8754
      @asher8754 4 роки тому +15

      But I love over the top evil for the shake of evil assholes

    • @JustABroom
      @JustABroom 4 роки тому +23

      "Okay, we need to take over the world, so we can destroy the world, then we RULE THE WORLD!"
      "Why though?"
      "Because... EVIL."

    • @CCLOSPINA
      @CCLOSPINA 4 роки тому +29

      They must also have evil names, even if it makes no sense.
      For example, Magneto's group used to call themselves "Brotherhood of Evil Mutants" even when they considered themselves the good ones.

    • @ale-xsantos1078
      @ale-xsantos1078 4 роки тому +14

      Dio: write that down, write that down

    • @dbsommers1
      @dbsommers1 4 роки тому +9

      "There is nothing wrong with wanting to steal all of the creme cheese in Japan. And no, I'm not going to tell you why I'm doing it." Baron Von Blimp.

  • @Lulink013
    @Lulink013 4 роки тому +599

    There's a villain trope you totally went past but ruinned more than one story: having a "true antagonist" revealed too late and with too little development in the last arc, making it a worse villan than the one before. Talk about an anti-climax!
    EDIT: There seems to be a missconception about what I'm reffering to: I was actually talking about new villains that were previously unknown to the characters and the spectator, not twist villains which can be badly made, but are not as hard to nail as the former.

    • @BlackCover95
      @BlackCover95 4 роки тому +93

      “B-b-but they showed no prior signs of being evil-”
      “That goes to show you how manipulative [third act plot twist villain] is! They even fooled the _audience_ !”

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому +41

      If I'm not mistaken that is defined as "popup vaillain".

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому +11

      @@BlackCover95 Yeh... but it is amazing when movie actually foreshadow that :D

    • @Nethan2000
      @Nethan2000 4 роки тому +41

      What if the villain turns out to be one of the main characters? With enough foreshadowing, that should give him enough characterization.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому +3

      @@Nethan2000 And about what we taking here? Hell! There are stories where even lead character was actually a villain, so it isn't nothing new.

  • @WhyYouMadBoi
    @WhyYouMadBoi 4 роки тому +74

    Not going to lie, the Baron's design is what makes him the best cause cane+musclegut+balding+that coat=amazing

    • @mompickmeupimscared2080
      @mompickmeupimscared2080 4 роки тому +6

      ngl he really rocks that coat

    • @kimifw58
      @kimifw58 4 роки тому +2

      He reminds me of Prime Minister Honest from Akame ga Kill!

  • @ofthecaribbean
    @ofthecaribbean 4 роки тому +82

    Look at me, I'm J.P! "Sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm, self-deprecating joke, love triangle"

  • @inferno0020
    @inferno0020 4 роки тому +51

    unpopular view: "relatable motivations" don't matter; character development of villains does. Those successful "villains with motivations" are those that already have good character developments.

  • @jasonlewis4438
    @jasonlewis4438 4 роки тому +71

    7:21
    "AHG-"
    "Mary Sue, NO!"
    *"King Baron sends his regards."*

    • @j2dragon109
      @j2dragon109 4 роки тому +7

      Mini Moustache
      “I put my best gear on you!”

  • @aleksandramakari
    @aleksandramakari 4 роки тому +30

    "Wow, we actually hit something."
    -every disposable soldier for an evil empire ever

  • @MediaGhost_
    @MediaGhost_ 4 роки тому +106

    "People like the villains more than the heroes?"
    Warhammer 40K Orks: Allow us to introduce ourselves

    • @14hourz82
      @14hourz82 4 роки тому +31

      well to be fair everyone in 40k is a villain

    • @essexclass8168
      @essexclass8168 4 роки тому +8

      The Orks are the Heroes though, basically the Galaxy's immune system

    • @14hourz82
      @14hourz82 4 роки тому +13

      @Chase Moore the imperium is 50% preserving humanity and 50% fucking with then

    • @christianweibrecht6555
      @christianweibrecht6555 4 роки тому +7

      The orks kill for fun because they where programed by the old ones
      The imperium has exterminated countless sentient spices and is trying to exterminate the rest because the emperor wants total control over the Galaxy

    • @returnedtomonkey8886
      @returnedtomonkey8886 4 роки тому +5

      Waaaagh

  • @WillKeaton
    @WillKeaton 4 роки тому +59

    I will never forget how "Rocket Robin Hood" would have short narrated character bios surround commercials that would introduce the cast. Specifically the one for Prince John:
    "Arch enemy of Rocket Robin Hood is the cruel space tyrant Prince John, despot ruler of the National Outerspace Terrestrial Territories. With the help of the wicked Sheriff of N.O.T.T., the black prince plans for that terrible day when he will destroy and conquer the entire solar system."
    I like to think that when he says John will destroy AND conquer the solar system, the narrator implies he will do so in that order.

    • @SorowFame
      @SorowFame 4 роки тому +18

      Well of course, it's a lot easier to conquer the empty space where a solar system used to be than an entire populated solar system.

  • @geofff.3343
    @geofff.3343 4 роки тому +25

    Every villain is the hero of their own story, even yours.

  • @RayPoreon
    @RayPoreon 4 роки тому +121

    Don't forget about making the villains do all the things you personally hate in real life, even if it makes no sense for their character or the context of the situation. Because what everyone wants during a conflicting exchange between the hero and villain is a monologue about how abortion should be legal and how drink driving is totally fine!

    • @librathebeautifulwarmonk1283
      @librathebeautifulwarmonk1283 4 роки тому +9

      Tbh thats a hard itch to not scratch, but for me its protagonists dissing stuff I don't like

    • @charlx8979
      @charlx8979 4 роки тому +14

      Abortion is legal? In most of the developed world?
      I mean not for long in the US because the courts have been packed with hack judges, but for now its still legal pretty much everywhere that isnt a backwater

    • @RayPoreon
      @RayPoreon 4 роки тому +18

      @@charlx8979 I wasn't making a statement smoothbrain, keep that politics shit outta here.

    • @oldmanlogan9616
      @oldmanlogan9616 4 роки тому +3

      @@charlx8979 his point went way over ylur head

    • @iexist1300
      @iexist1300 3 роки тому +7

      A villan who wants to turn the world into chaotic anarchy after destroying global infasructure will definetly care about making people vote Democrat.

  • @Goddamnitiwantaname
    @Goddamnitiwantaname 4 роки тому +37

    "I hunger for power. For power's sake!" keep it in your pants, Vergil.

  • @elf4god
    @elf4god 4 роки тому +60

    "Why obliterate when you can delegate?!"

  • @extremelight9258
    @extremelight9258 4 роки тому +38

    Villain kills thousands of innocents and then forgets why he did it two years later. That's 10/10 writing there.

  • @zippy2058
    @zippy2058 4 роки тому +20

    Even when JP isn’t in the video, the Love Triangle still always manages to come up!

  • @ThrottleKitty
    @ThrottleKitty 4 роки тому +168

    "Kills developed characters over petty reasons"
    **Glen gurgling sounds**

    • @jonVNTG
      @jonVNTG 4 роки тому +3

      Abraham bodie cramping

    • @ThrottleKitty
      @ThrottleKitty 4 роки тому +7

      @@jonVNTG Abraham was actually killed cause Rick's group killed like 50 of Negan's men. Glen was killed because Daryl punched Negan. The later was pettier and hurt worse! (sorry Abe)

  • @hannibustoogfyrre6074
    @hannibustoogfyrre6074 4 роки тому +38

    Do you know what these 3 villains need?
    _A Love Triangle!_

    • @agent3689
      @agent3689 Рік тому +1

      Look at how they're standing.

  • @draconianwarking
    @draconianwarking 4 роки тому +226

    Often in real history the "villain" is a good guy from another perspective, a example would be the events that lead to the language you are currently reading in being so dominant and widespread

    • @billtenth5805
      @billtenth5805 4 роки тому +6

      what about all the psychopaths and serial killers?

    • @draconianwarking
      @draconianwarking 4 роки тому +6

      @@billtenth5805 only a small percentage of soldiers do most of the killing in wars

    • @cthulhufhtagn2483
      @cthulhufhtagn2483 4 роки тому +1

      Agreed - which makes villains written that way in stories all the more interesting.

    • @billtenth5805
      @billtenth5805 4 роки тому +6

      @@draconianwarking I'm not just talking about psychopaths and serial killers who happened to serve under other people, i'm talking about psychopaths and serial killers in general.

    • @MurasakiNoKami
      @MurasakiNoKami 4 роки тому +38

      Psychopaths are not inherently violent, it's a much more common condition than you might realize. Some grow up to become violent, because empathy is the main reason we don't kill each other constantly (plus it's illegal). It's only these "bad ones" that you have to watch out for, and they usually snap because of some perceived slight to themselves.
      Serial killers all have different reasons, but the base line is usually that they had a harmful delusion left unchecked. They see themself as a god or a messiah, above normal humans, or whatever. The people they killed were either like livestock to them, or they believed they deserved it, or they thought they were saving them, etc etc.
      Sometimes it's as simple as them wanting their name to go down in history, in anyway possible. Those guys really make my skin crawl. "Why'd you kill all those people?!" "So you'd learn my name."

  • @christinesinclair6938
    @christinesinclair6938 4 роки тому +112

    "Sarcasm, sarcasm, love triangle"

  • @flamethrowerproductions123
    @flamethrowerproductions123 4 роки тому +90

    Now that we have villains covered, there is only thing that can take on our mighty non-generic villain...
    A super hero.
    Please cover super heroes next, JP.

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 4 роки тому +420

    Not every villain needs a redemption arc, or a reason behind their descent into villainy!😈

    • @littlemoth4956
      @littlemoth4956 4 роки тому +98

      No, they don't need a redemption arc, but if they're just evil for no reason, that just makes them boring and unbelievable, and takes the reader out of the story.

    • @anantasheshanaga3666
      @anantasheshanaga3666 4 роки тому +8

      This is a story without villains, only victims
      - from the Korean Webtoon Kubera

    • @killerhellhound
      @killerhellhound 4 роки тому +27

      If you are going that route though you do need something to replace it the best is the emperor palpatine style just replace backstory with Ham, sheer enjoyment of their actions, and self confidence.

    • @sumosquirtlrekt2340
      @sumosquirtlrekt2340 4 роки тому +70

      Yeah, sometimes people are just evil, and they don't have a sad backstory or a morally complex motive.

    • @moonriverbaby4108
      @moonriverbaby4108 4 роки тому +37

      @@littlemoth4956 How is it unbelievable? Do children need a deep complex reason to steal from cookie jars and lie about it?

  • @Marsupial_Enmascarado
    @Marsupial_Enmascarado 4 роки тому +92

    Could you maybe do one on Revolutions and Freedom Fighters?

    • @BlackCover95
      @BlackCover95 4 роки тому +10

      Don’t you mean, “The Rebellion/Resistance”?

    • @BlackCover95
      @BlackCover95 4 роки тому

      Hoàng Nguyên
      Looks interesting. I’ll check it out. Thanks!

  • @poweroffriendship2.0
    @poweroffriendship2.0 4 роки тому +68

    I am planning to write a story about vile villain protagonist who happens to be living in a Sugar Bowl while the saccharine heroes are the antagonist who tries to stop him. I just fleshed out the concept that supposed to be a deconstructive parody of a Sugar Bowl cartoons with the villain as the main protagonist so what do you think?

    • @happyharmony7062
      @happyharmony7062 4 роки тому +5

      That's sounds like a good concept. We may see most of the Sugar Bowl villains like No Heart from Care Bears or Quellor from Teddy Ruxpin who I wanted to treat the same like Megamind.

    • @stevenbobbybills
      @stevenbobbybills 4 роки тому +1

      Bold italics

    • @CCLOSPINA
      @CCLOSPINA 4 роки тому +4

      How serious is your villain?
      1-Completely serious, without any comedy moments.
      2-Serious, but with small moments of comedy.
      3-Comically serious, that is to say that his/her seriousness is played for laughter.
      4-Just as funny as the world around him/her

    • @poweroffriendship2.0
      @poweroffriendship2.0 4 роки тому +4

      @@CCLOSPINA Well, I could say that the villain protagonist has the same level of comedy as Deadpool. Just remember that he have self-awareness that he's written inside a fairy tale.

    • @stevenbobbybills
      @stevenbobbybills 4 роки тому +7

      @@poweroffriendship2.0 try not to fuck it up. Most people that use Deadpool as a reference don't understand the character, even including a lot of people that have written comics and cartoons for the man himself. The comedy is partially a coping mechanism.

  • @HomuraAkemiHQ
    @HomuraAkemiHQ 4 роки тому +15

    Make a supporting character who helps out the protagonist at first until the third act of the story, when it's revealed they were the villain all along!

    • @BlackCover95
      @BlackCover95 4 роки тому

      I’ve been waiting for someone to lampoon that. I was starting to think I was the only one to notice this new cliché.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому +1

      @@BlackCover95 It isn't new. Just it usually is decently executed.

  • @theodorwilliam6943
    @theodorwilliam6943 4 роки тому +24

    See I don't necessarily think a villain needs an inherent backstory or reason for being evil to be compelling. Really think about what villains are the most memorable, not necessarily to yourself, but to the general media. I'm talking about Vegeta, Frieza, Umbridge; Jessie, James and Meowth from Pokemon; basically every single villain from the early Disney movies, with many more examples. All these villains have either incredibly light backstories, or basically no reason for being evil other than they want to be. I think what's more important to a villain than backstory or motivation, is that the reader gets an emotional response out of them. We need to find them compelling in some way. If you have a standard dark lord who is pretty much just bland from the start with no real personality or character, then the reader will just be bored and see him for the plot device he is. If you have a villain who has a clearly defined personality, even if that personality is that he is just evil because it's fun, then the reader will instantly be more invested in them.

    • @sodaftpm185
      @sodaftpm185 4 роки тому

      So Heath Ledger's Joker or Hans Landa?

    • @tsm688
      @tsm688 Рік тому

      I don't really remember any of those ... I do remember Zorg from Fifth Element. Despite limited facetime he had excellent motive and characterization.

  • @legateelizabeth
    @legateelizabeth 4 роки тому +88

    The entire sponsorship segment is just the "People's Front of Judea" scene from Monty Python's Life of Brian.

    • @BlackCover95
      @BlackCover95 4 роки тому +1

      MPLoB pointed out the reality of resistance cells.

    • @louisduarte8763
      @louisduarte8763 4 роки тому +7

      What about the Judean People's Front?

    • @BlackCover95
      @BlackCover95 4 роки тому +5

      Louis Duarte
      Splitters!

  • @Ventus_S
    @Ventus_S 4 роки тому +16

    You'd be amazed how most popular holywood movies have bad writing when it comes to villians.

  • @johnkelly8667
    @johnkelly8667 2 роки тому +6

    This video does several things.
    It shakes up the usual formula, gives us an insight into how J.P writes episodes and tells a story.

  • @jamisanmatalonis8458
    @jamisanmatalonis8458 4 роки тому +7

    I’d love to see an episode on heroes turning to villains or just twist villains in general. They can be their own kind of magical.

  • @snorf525
    @snorf525 3 роки тому +16

    the 3 villains rambling like some seniors in an old folks home is the best thing

  • @septiantripangestu9406
    @septiantripangestu9406 4 роки тому +41

    "wow we actually hit something"
    I kek'd

    • @valkaerie8715
      @valkaerie8715 4 роки тому +1

      Was it top, by any conceivable description?

  • @cait9896
    @cait9896 4 роки тому +6

    Thanks for using closed captioning! It's really useful and frankly refreshing to find a UA-camr I like who uses them

  • @athy8763
    @athy8763 Рік тому +7

    3:33 did J.P. really predict that meme with the smurf cat and "we live, we love, we lie" multiple years before it blew up

  • @dtmoney82
    @dtmoney82 4 роки тому +30

    The last time I was this late terrible writing advice was actually not sponsered

  • @aname848
    @aname848 4 роки тому +9

    Even the greatest villain of all time Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz understood the importance of motivation and backstory, he almost never did an evil scheme unless he either profited from it or had a tragic backstory behind it.

  • @lordfawful9469
    @lordfawful9469 4 роки тому +6

    This and Rivals are my favorite TWA episodes. I love it when JP switches up the formula.

  • @ahumanistpotato
    @ahumanistpotato 4 роки тому +15

    They need a series on their own

  • @akumjh
    @akumjh 3 роки тому +9

    One thing I would have added, a villain doesn't always need to be hateable. If you can justify why they should to lose other ways, an unhateable villain can be a good source of genuine emotional conflict.

  • @nomobobby
    @nomobobby 4 роки тому +24

    "Themes are for eighth grade book reports, Themes are for eighth grade book reports,Themes are for eighth grade book reports...."
    Also JP: Makes thin lines between heroes and villains a *massive theme over the course of the series*
    You can't have your cake and eat it too, JP. How important are themes? are they for book reports, or every story??? Us writers need to know...

  • @sempersolus5511
    @sempersolus5511 2 роки тому +5

    I love how "quadratic equation" is apparently right up there with "poison" and "financial ruin".
    Baron's probably going to screw up the poison _and_ run the company into the ground, if he doesn't have a high-school education.

  • @Extys
    @Extys 4 роки тому +33

    LMAO the over convoluted villain plot is literally from DUNE 😂

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому +5

      Wait...maybe Baron is literally the Baron?

    • @TSPH1992
      @TSPH1992 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheRezro harkonen. Classic XD

  • @PengyDraws
    @PengyDraws 4 роки тому +9

    Been so long since I've watched one of these, and it starts in the best way possible.

  • @charlx8979
    @charlx8979 4 роки тому +3

    Practical guide to evil is the ultimate deconstruction of villainous tropes and good vs evil stories

  • @MartaTarasiuk
    @MartaTarasiuk 4 роки тому +14

    I was expecting JP to get up and say: "I made the villains make video about villains for me! Everything according to the plan".

  • @evans.7501
    @evans.7501 4 роки тому +8

    I’ve never been late to a TWA video in my life.
    Man makes seriously good satire.
    Now insert a villain quote.

  • @navilluscire2567
    @navilluscire2567 4 роки тому +10

    I'd argue that you don't need to make your villians sympathetic, you just need to make them fun to hate, fun to watch them work. After all some of the best villains in stories are what folks would call 'flat characters', as in they don't need sympathy, they don't have some higher goal nor is that a prerequisite for making a good character, hero or villain. A flat villain, especially a proactive character is great because of how they seek to bring down others to their level, see just how far they can push people. For them it's getting others, especially seemingly decent people to commit atrocities themselves not even having to get their own hands dirty. They are able to get others to do the horrid tasks for them by threatening honest folk to do these things, instilling fear in even the stuanches of souls (a man that has something to love and lose) or even exploit the selfish (but understandable) desires of even the purest of champions for personal gain.

  • @ThemeParkAvenue
    @ThemeParkAvenue 4 роки тому +9

    Are you sure that the bad guys didn’t kidnap the inner critic instead of J.P? Those notes seem to complicated for J.P himself.

  • @deathdealer7794
    @deathdealer7794 4 роки тому +654

    I don't like it when villains are generics psychopaths i like characters who are morally complex

    • @SoulSlugArts
      @SoulSlugArts 4 роки тому +167

      But sometimes it fun just to watch someone be evil like Hades (in the Disney movie, not the myths sorry I trust you all that's he complex there ) but I like complex villians too

    • @CCLOSPINA
      @CCLOSPINA 4 роки тому +20

      @@SoulSlugArts But, Hades is complex.

    • @SoulSlugArts
      @SoulSlugArts 4 роки тому +43

      @@CCLOSPINA in the Disney movie, no he's really not but I'm sure you talk about something else

    • @creatressanna8714
      @creatressanna8714 4 роки тому +35

      He's much more complex in the actual myths. As well as in the popular Percy Jackson series.

    • @anantasheshanaga3666
      @anantasheshanaga3666 4 роки тому +9

      This is a story without villains, only victims
      - from the Korean Webtoon Kubera

  • @IngloriousPirandello
    @IngloriousPirandello 4 роки тому +14

    nooo, JP is in danger!! what a good start for a "damsel in distress" episode... just is plan ;)

  • @cthulhufhtagn2483
    @cthulhufhtagn2483 4 роки тому +22

    Apparently House Badguy is the voice of reason now.

    • @BlackCover95
      @BlackCover95 4 роки тому +4

      Wait, House Badguy has villains? Since when?!?!?!?

  • @drowemos
    @drowemos 4 роки тому +14

    "What's a Saturday morning cartoon?" -- "In the 80 that was just another name for product placement"
    Ouch. That was a deep cut. Just destroy my childhood why don't you.

  • @michaelcoleman2173
    @michaelcoleman2173 4 роки тому +8

    Tying to align the 3 villains:
    Evil Barron = lawful evil, does evil for self gain within the bounds of law and traditions (like abusing loopholes, turning the laws against the hero’s or working within political intrigue)
    Evil Overlord = neutral evil, does evil for self gain whenever they feel is best and can get away with, not bound by laws or code but also not likely to do evil without reasion (destroying a village to gain access to a artefact, or torturing a character for information, or petty theft.)
    Evil Emperor = chaotic evil, does evil often out sheer impulse or even entertainment. Far more likely to strike an innocent unprovoked or take their evil far beyond what is nessiary for the situation just because they can (blowing up a plannet over a small threat or sight, torturing a character for info... then continuing to so after the character gives up the information. Destroying a village to test a new death weapon, when there are more effective ethical options available)

  • @ZearthGJL
    @ZearthGJL 4 роки тому +13

    Gotta love how the point of killing off main character was mentioned.
    That's the spoiler for my story :p

  • @bepisthescienceman4202
    @bepisthescienceman4202 3 роки тому +34

    The worst writing advice I ever heard was villains need to be sympathetic

    • @eeg-rh7jv
      @eeg-rh7jv Рік тому +2

      This video in general is probably his worst and is obviously biased. A good villain depends entirely on the interpretation your audience gave him but usually a good vilain is a well written villain. And well written doesn't mean he has to be complex, he just needs to be iconic and memorable. Bill cipher is still hailed as a great vilain even if his character is one dimensional

  • @haillobster7154
    @haillobster7154 4 роки тому +3

    This video had the greatest villains of all time- the Evil Overlord, the Evil Emperor, and the Evil Baron, all together!!

  • @sirnikkel6746
    @sirnikkel6746 3 роки тому +9

    «Power is an end in of itself»
    The entire human history: YES

  • @Hecatonicosachoron
    @Hecatonicosachoron 4 роки тому +49

    Next episode: * “no more love triangles: how writers ruin everything by getting tired of their own successful running gags” *

  • @goldenhorde6944
    @goldenhorde6944 3 роки тому +4

    Ok but the bit about power for power's sake actually gave me a great idea for a villain: have a typical high fantasy adventure romp where the twist halfway through where it turns out that the unstoppable Dark Lord the heroes have been fighting this whole time isn't some primordial force of chaos but is actually a plucky goth teenager who endlessly seeks power as a way of coping with their own insecurities and had to fight tooth and nail to rise from their humble origins to the most powerful person in the world.

    • @legrandliseurtri7495
      @legrandliseurtri7495 2 роки тому +2

      Kind of sounds like the Lord Ruler from Mistborn. At least, judging by the first book. Maybe informations learned later in that trilogy will change that.

  • @novaterra973
    @novaterra973 4 роки тому +12

    It's like this was actually supposed to be a Serious Thought video before those three hijacked it.

  • @HispAnakin42
    @HispAnakin42 3 роки тому +7

    I think that sometimes you don’t necessarily need a well developed villain. They just need to be intimidating and be an actual threat to our hero’s. Sauron makes a good villain because he’s practically unstoppable. You feel for the hero’s because there’s seemingly no hope. Sauron isn’t belittled or incompetent, say like General Hux. He may not be interesting, but he’s a huge obstacle for our heroes to overcome.

    • @eeg-rh7jv
      @eeg-rh7jv Рік тому

      it's harder to pull off since it requires the writer to be confident to have the protagonist as the center of the story and even then it doesn't shield you from critism

  • @IceQueen975
    @IceQueen975 4 роки тому +8

    I continue to love every installment of the TWA cinematic universe.

  • @owenstephens3389
    @owenstephens3389 4 роки тому +3

    So I've been working on this one story for a while; it's about a man who summons a demon to strike a deal for a tool to steal a soul. He then steals a demon's soul with this tool and incorporates it into his own. I really don't know where this one is going, since I write as a hobby for the most part, but I do enjoy the idea of the protagonist being the villain, and the conflict arising from his descent into madness and the slow skewing of his moral compass.

  • @frostpersonal3758
    @frostpersonal3758 4 роки тому +19

    the amount of self-roasting JP did in this video had me dead

  • @firstnamelastname7124
    @firstnamelastname7124 4 роки тому +36

    Did you see that there in a triangle
    *you know what that means*

    • @Karak-_-
      @Karak-_- 4 роки тому

      I study math and I have not seen 3 points which arent on same line to not create a triangle.