Another thing thats VERY IMPORTANT- apply downward pressure on the blade while trying to unlock, the triad lock is built in such a way that the more pressure u apply the tighter it binds and cannot be unlocked, the clone will snap shut even when applying downward pressure in blade-be care full not to chop off fingers during this extremely dangerous test!
I agree with everything you said. Personally I carry a large Espada in XHP every day, but I bought this Rajah clone for $30 as well just as a toy. Excellent video!
I own this cold steel Rajah II knife and it is a beast. I own several dozen Cold Steel knives. Sometimes I want to buy a fake rajah II because they offer it on Dghate with the black blade and it is impossible to find a real one with the black blade . Nice video !
The handicap with clones is their absence of quality controls on the entire production process. However if the unit leaves the workshop well, the only difference lies in a slightly lower quality in the retention in all models.
Awesome video, Bro! You did an excellent job of exposing and showing the differences of the real Rajah and the fake Rajah. Keep up the great work. We, people that don't like purchasing counterfeits, need to stay informed about them. You're appreciated, Bro! Peace, Stiletto :-)
Hi Stiletto, thank you, that’s very kind of you to say. I saw the video you did with the unboxing of the Cold Steel karambit that you noticed was fake. I like how you pointed out why you were able to know that it was fake. Thanks, I appreciate your videos too.
The guy with the channel in Germany is uddoss he had a original and a clone and his clone kept making a clicking sound so he toke it apart and found out it had a broken"rocker lock bar" but he loves his original Rajah II.
From what I can tell the dhgate versions are either Overstock Factory rejects Company orders a few thousand then the factory is tooled up so they just keep knocking them off afterwards because you can't sue the Chinese
Good show and tell video of those two knives ,the original is clearly 10x better , you proved that person wrong and that Clone is probably dangerous is used in a equal manner as the real deal.
The reason to buy this clone is extremely simple: Price. Money. Not all of us have 150-200 bucks just waiting to jump out of our wallet. Personally I bought a clone Cold Steel Spartan, just to see... - how does it feel - how heavy is it, - do I like the shape... etc etc etc.... because in all of those regards it is close enough to the original. IF I'll decide I like what I see so far - then I'll buy the original. I also bought a fake Rajah, but unlike yours they didn't stay true to the size or construction method of the original.... its about the same size of the (also fake, but true to the original) spartan, with a liner lock and thumbstuds, not a (copy) tri-ad lock and the plate. -.- Tbh tho, they stated the measurements in the details, I just assumed its a true to shape and size copy.
Thank you for adding your experience with Cold Steel clones. I like the points you made but the problem I have with clones is when people try to pass them off as real when they sell them. I mostly made this video to show some of the differences so people can recognize a clone and to show that they’re not the same quality either.
The blade steel coating is different. The clone is bead blasted and the real Rajah 2 is stone washed. Bead blasted will rust more easily than stonewash.
My comment about the locks is to demonstrate how the clones lock is DANGEROUS! USE EXTREME CAUTION, the fact that it can unlock will exerting downward pressure shows how you could lose a finger during use!
Ive seen videos & seen comments of/by people that want to buy clones of Knives, that say they want a good Knife but not for the Price of the real ones - But thats just plain Stupid - You can not get anywhere near the same Action, Durability, Usage, Satisfaction or Feeling of a great QUALITY Knife in a Clone. Period. Dont skint on Price!! You wont regret going Quality. These Cold Steel blades deserve every part of their reputation for Excellence!! You literally DONT NEED to look at another Knife Supplier for your Knife needs ever again 'IF' you didnt ever want to. They literally have a Blade to cover every base, in form & functionality.
The box alone doesn't mean a thing for mine came in a box like that and it's a real one. All other details you mentioned check with mine though. The screw on top is small the screws next to the lanyard hole are uneven spaced and there is no gap at the top o the blade near the wave system. I'm just saying that only the box doesn't tell if it's fake or not. But thanks for the video, based on it I could ascertain that mine is the real one.
I would imagine there is a difference because you definitely beat the clone slot more than you did your authentic blade, for instance you chopped the wood 15 times opposed to the 24 times that you did with the clone.
This is interesting. I went back and counted. So it’s real Rajah: 15 hits fake Rajah: 24 hits the first time and real Rajah: 8 hits fake Rajah 5 hits the second time. So to sum it up, I did 23 hits with the real Rajah and 29 hits with the fake Rajah in this video.
No I didn’t. I did this video a while ago but from what I remember the lock up on the clone jiggled after I chopped with it and the authentic Rajah was fine.
@@totesmalotes Cool, just curious because I saw a video where someone made the lock fail by striking a tree stump with the spine of the blade, and I wasn't sure if that failure was typical of the clones, or just because of inconsistent quality control.
@@j.p.9522 lock failure on a knife this size is an ugly thought. For me, I simply don’t trust it. After the test results I just put it away. Thanks for bringing this topic up.
I’ve seen mostly China clones. I don’t know how many different clones are out there but there are a few. I chose the one that looked most like the original. The clone I bought is not the same quality as the original since at the end of the video the original Rajah 2 is fine and the clone was rattling.
Cold steel doesn't make their own blades. They sub contract from many factors in China. The clone is probably based off a design from 20 years ago. Cold steel redesigns frequently. The old models are old not necessarily fake
I'm not sure the plastic is as good on the clone.. I once bought a clone Spyderco knife.. in the plastic grip broke... I believe many times they use plastic and it's not fiberglass reinforced like the cold steel Grivory
I have a real one and it's showing a lot of wear because I use the hell out of it. So I went to buy another one today and found out they're all clones. Even though I love this knife, I never thought much of Cold Steel products. They're not as good as the hype. I think the clones are still pumped out by the same overseas manufacturers as before, just without the same quality control as before, which was weak as hell when these knives and others were still in production. You're just getting slightly worse made junk with the clones as you were with the "real" ones. Withe the real ones, the screws all strip out and you have to re-tap then, especially on the thumb plate after repeated use. In my opinion, as much as you pay for them, that shouldn't happen as often as it does with their knives.
Hello, I’ve used my Rajah for a couple years (I started carrying a different knife) but I don’t think I’ve used mine as much as you have used yours. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Well done. The clones are garbage. I have seen even worse cold steel clones where the fake ''triad'' lock is just dangerous. This one looks pretty dangerous too, imagine cutting your fingers off to save few bucks... People that make the clones have no responsibility for their product while people with the brand name have huge responsibility to bring quality, correct materials and correct design.
@@freakydeekydutch5750 I was ready to argue with you but I wasn’t expecting Ginsu knives. I’ve seen the commercials where they cut through a can. You win this one.
The scales even SOUND different when you place them on the table @ 25:15.
Plastic vs reinforced plastic. Good comparison vid! 👍
Oh wow, I didn’t catch that. Good ear and thanks.
Another thing thats VERY IMPORTANT- apply downward pressure on the blade while trying to unlock, the triad lock is built in such a way that the more pressure u apply the tighter it binds and cannot be unlocked, the clone will snap shut even when applying downward pressure in blade-be care full not to chop off fingers during this extremely dangerous test!
Thank you for the tip. I haven’t been actively paying attention to how I close it. I’ll try it out.
Yeah with CS we are paying for assurance of finger safety.
I agree with everything you said. Personally I carry a large Espada in XHP every day, but I bought this Rajah clone for $30 as well just as a toy. Excellent video!
Thank you. And an Espada XHP, very nice. I carry an Espada too, so far it’s my favorite.
I own this cold steel Rajah II knife and it is a beast. I own several dozen Cold Steel knives. Sometimes I want to buy a fake rajah II because they offer it on Dghate with the black blade and it is impossible to find a real one with the black blade . Nice video !
Thank you. The Rajah 2 black out is hard to find but they come up for sale every now and then on eBay. I personally don’t really trust the clones.
@@totesmalotes It depends what clones . Thank you for your reply
I thought the clone was just as good, until I chopped some stuff and the edge got all rippled, not properly hardened
Yeah, I think it’s a toss up whether you get an ok clone or not.
The handicap with clones is their absence of quality controls on the entire production process. However if the unit leaves the workshop well, the only difference lies in a slightly lower quality in the retention in all models.
Awesome video, Bro! You did an excellent job of exposing and showing the differences of the real Rajah and the fake Rajah. Keep up the great work. We, people that don't like purchasing counterfeits, need to stay informed about them. You're appreciated, Bro! Peace, Stiletto :-)
Hi Stiletto, thank you, that’s very kind of you to say. I saw the video you did with the unboxing of the Cold Steel karambit that you noticed was fake. I like how you pointed out why you were able to know that it was fake. Thanks, I appreciate your videos too.
@@totesmalotes Right on! Peace, Stiletto :-)
That rajah is a beast of a knife. Thanks for the video
Nice, thanks. I hoped the video helped.
I seen a Clone with a broken back lock bar on one guy's channel from Germany.
The guy with the channel in Germany is
uddoss
he had a original and a clone and his clone kept making a clicking sound so he toke it apart and found out it had a broken"rocker lock bar" but he loves his original Rajah II.
Hi @@powerplay4real174 that’s terrible. There’s really no knowing what your going to get with a clone.
From what I can tell the dhgate versions are either
Overstock
Factory rejects
Company orders a few thousand then the factory is tooled up so they just keep knocking them off afterwards because you can't sue the Chinese
Good show and tell video of those two knives ,the original is clearly 10x better , you proved that person wrong and that Clone is probably dangerous is used in a equal manner as the real deal.
Thank you. I agree, in the long run it would be dangerous.
The reason to buy this clone is extremely simple: Price. Money.
Not all of us have 150-200 bucks just waiting to jump out of our wallet.
Personally I bought a clone Cold Steel Spartan, just to see...
- how does it feel
- how heavy is it,
- do I like the shape...
etc etc etc.... because in all of those regards it is close enough to the original.
IF I'll decide I like what I see so far - then I'll buy the original.
I also bought a fake Rajah, but unlike yours they didn't stay true to the size or construction method of the original.... its about the same size of the (also fake, but true to the original) spartan, with a liner lock and thumbstuds, not a (copy) tri-ad lock and the plate. -.-
Tbh tho, they stated the measurements in the details, I just assumed its a true to shape and size copy.
Thank you for adding your experience with Cold Steel clones. I like the points you made but the problem I have with clones is when people try to pass them off as real when they sell them. I mostly made this video to show some of the differences so people can recognize a clone and to show that they’re not the same quality either.
The blade steel coating is different. The clone is bead blasted and the real Rajah 2 is stone washed. Bead blasted will rust more easily than stonewash.
Thank you for pointing this out, it’s something I missed. I agree with you on bead blasted knives being more prone to rust. Good eye.
Both will rust if you don't oil the blade
My comment about the locks is to demonstrate how the clones lock is DANGEROUS! USE EXTREME CAUTION, the fact that it can unlock will exerting downward pressure shows how you could lose a finger during use!
The clone i picked up off wish the blade isnt centered, a few screw heads are stripped and it says made in tajwan
Fun fact: Tajwan is Taiwan in Polish.
Ive seen videos & seen comments of/by people that want to buy clones of Knives, that say they want a good Knife but not for the Price of the real ones - But thats just plain Stupid - You can not get anywhere near the same Action, Durability, Usage, Satisfaction or Feeling of a great QUALITY Knife in a Clone. Period. Dont skint on Price!! You wont regret going Quality. These Cold Steel blades deserve every part of their reputation for Excellence!! You literally DONT NEED to look at another Knife Supplier for your Knife needs ever again 'IF' you didnt ever want to. They literally have a Blade to cover every base, in form & functionality.
A clone will never be as good as the real thing because with the real thing you know what you’re getting.
The box alone doesn't mean a thing for mine came in a box like that and it's a real one.
All other details you mentioned check with mine though.
The screw on top is small the screws next to the lanyard hole are uneven spaced and there is no gap at the top o the blade near the wave system.
I'm just saying that only the box doesn't tell if it's fake or not.
But thanks for the video, based on it I could ascertain that mine is the real one.
Nice. Glad the video helped.
I would imagine there is a difference because you definitely beat the clone slot more than you did your authentic blade, for instance you chopped the wood 15 times opposed to the 24 times that you did with the clone.
This is interesting. I went back and counted. So it’s real Rajah: 15 hits fake Rajah: 24 hits the first time and real Rajah: 8 hits fake Rajah 5 hits the second time. So to sum it up, I did 23 hits with the real Rajah and 29 hits with the fake Rajah in this video.
Did you ever test the strength of the clone lock versus the original?
No I didn’t. I did this video a while ago but from what I remember the lock up on the clone jiggled after I chopped with it and the authentic Rajah was fine.
@@totesmalotes Cool, just curious because I saw a video where someone made the lock fail by striking a tree stump with the spine of the blade, and I wasn't sure if that failure was typical of the clones, or just because of inconsistent quality control.
@@j.p.9522 lock failure on a knife this size is an ugly thought. For me, I simply don’t trust it. After the test results I just put it away. Thanks for bringing this topic up.
Who's making the clones? And why? Are they made in the same quality?
I’ve seen mostly China clones. I don’t know how many different clones are out there but there are a few. I chose the one that looked most like the original. The clone I bought is not the same quality as the original since at the end of the video the original Rajah 2 is fine and the clone was rattling.
Cold steel doesn't make their own blades. They sub contract from many factors in China. The clone is probably based off a design from 20 years ago. Cold steel redesigns frequently. The old models are old not necessarily fake
I'm not sure the plastic is as good on the clone.. I once bought a clone Spyderco knife.. in the plastic grip broke... I believe many times they use plastic and it's not fiberglass reinforced like the cold steel Grivory
I have a real one and it's showing a lot of wear because I use the hell out of it. So I went to buy another one today and found out they're all clones. Even though I love this knife, I never thought much of Cold Steel products. They're not as good as the hype. I think the clones are still pumped out by the same overseas manufacturers as before, just without the same quality control as before, which was weak as hell when these knives and others were still in production. You're just getting slightly worse made junk with the clones as you were with the "real" ones.
Withe the real ones, the screws all strip out and you have to re-tap then, especially on the thumb plate after repeated use. In my opinion, as much as you pay for them, that shouldn't happen as often as it does with their knives.
Hello, I’ve used my Rajah for a couple years (I started carrying a different knife) but I don’t think I’ve used mine as much as you have used yours. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Good video
Why thank you SnacktoothMagee.
Well done. The clones are garbage. I have seen even worse cold steel clones where the fake ''triad'' lock is just dangerous. This one looks pretty dangerous too, imagine cutting your fingers off to save few bucks...
People that make the clones have no responsibility for their product while people with the brand name have huge responsibility to bring quality, correct materials and correct design.
I completely agree.
There's thousands of lock back knives and nobody ever cut their finger off. This fake can easily handle 300lbs of weight
I got sold a clone on ebay. I wasn’t happy because it sucks.
That’s terrible. I hope you still have a chance of returning it.
The reasoning? $15 vs $90
Yeah there is some reason in that.
On camera the Real cold steel blade looks darker
Yeah, it does. If you compare the clone to Cold Steel’s older Aus 8 version, then it looks almost identical; blade color and handle stippling.
Made in usa vs made in c h i n a
Clone...cold steel, I say neither is worth it. Cold steel knives are not appealing. Mass produced pos.
Any suggestions?
@@totesmalotes a ginsu knife would be an upgrade.
@@freakydeekydutch5750 I was ready to argue with you but I wasn’t expecting Ginsu knives. I’ve seen the commercials where they cut through a can. You win this one.
@@totesmalotes I honestly don't like the GSI direction they went. They're gonna become the next Schrade or Camillus
@@freakydeekydutch5750 I hope not. I don’t like what I see so far but I think it’s more of a waiting game right now to see if they’re still any good.