Do you really think the politicians who voted this artifact law into being, would throw that point back? It would go to their kids or grandkids! Laws for thee, but not for them!
Rich and powerful people break a lot of laws just because they get away with causing harm doesn’t mean it’s a good thing it would be nice if no one was above the law
Yes do you think I would pick it bare? If you clone 10,000 people like me and they go someplace like that and there's an actual artifact of some sort that's just limited I believe it if there were ten thousand of me or I'd leave it myself 10,000 . I got to live on this ball of dung I think it would have to be made of Dung
Being part native American myself I doubt any of my ancestors are going to jump out of their grave and want their arrowhead back. Although I will say if you do stumble upon a burial site do let proper authorities and tribal authorities know. Other than that you should be able to keep that point. Some laws are so stupid.
Being Native American mixed but mostly Potawatomi and still using health services and going to my tribal government I have plent of arrowheads and also with my ID I was told I can have my eagle feather and transport or report or even with permission keep artifacts that may be indigenous
Not at all according to archeologists... these have unique characteristics that would be easily identified by experts that would give insight to tribe & location
@@iHUNTdeadThings I just spoke with a friend who has collected points for years. I sent him this video. He says you can take points from private land but not public. So you found it in your yard...
I can understand grave digging, but who in the hell has the right to tell you what you can or can’t keep? Government is supposed to serve the people not control them!
In 1988 , I became a certified Open Water Diver. While doing upgrade training in Florida the next year, we made a side trip to Crystal River to drift dive. During that time you could enter the head water without permit or observation. I noted a huge old water soaked timber, hand cut right angle corners sloping from dry sand into the water. I decided to fan the sand on the upstream side while sitting in less than a foot of water figuring that if anything was there it would be trapped by the timber. I quickly found a green glass bottle stopper with tiny air bubbles, a glass rod applicater about 4" long and several encrusted hand wrought square nails in an area I was told had no human habitation. Every dive in every place I went, I would look for artifacts just for the shear joy of discovery. As always, they had to go back where they were found. Seeing your work along with the excitement and knowledge you share makes me glad for that first trip find.
The developers are doing all the damage In the wetlands. River divers and fossil and artifact collectors are preserving history for future generations. This is the beginning before they ban fossil diving state wide. Thx. for sharing.👍
Collectors do not preserve history, unless they are turning over their finds to museums. And removing those artifacts destroys the context. A lot is learned by the site itself. It should be excavated by archeologists. That said…that was a beautiful point.
There is unfortunately no context to be had from points in a river. Anything on land ESPECIALLY at a "site" can provide context, but these aren't able to provide the same. There are though, some under water sites... one example being the burial ground off the gulf of Florida. But river finds don't carry context.
@@RandomRangerRambles People like you are who are ruining everything. Sad. Making everything don't touch this or that. I bet you think the climate is getting hotter too and we all need to eat less meat.
Nearly 100% of artifacts end up in a museum warehouse box never to be seen again. A collector can share their finds with others daily instilling a personal link with history.
I spent well over 2 decades regularly diving the rivers here in lower South Carolina collecting artifacts and fossils. It is legal here. You must have a license and report what you find, but if you follow the rules, you can keep what you find. In theory it is a win-win situation. The state gets the info on what is in the rivers, and the divers get to keep their finds. Also the divers who are following the rules are more likely to report things they run across, like shipwrecks and special artifact concentrations. I've run across some amazing, and sometimes amusing things on the bottom of the rivers. While the gators and moccasins must be respected, the most dangerous creature in the river is the driver of the boat overhead.
I'm familiar with South Carolina's system, its a good one. Florida has had their nose in the private sectors business for a hundred years or more. They will fight you with your own money, just ask Mel Fisher or any salvor in the state how much trust they have in Florida bureaucrats. They rarely uncover anything themselves, they simply threaten and take what they want from the finders with zero recognition, a true bunch of pirates.
To many laws and regulations. Not digging graves is understandable, but a lot of this comes down to money and archeologists not wanting amateur's doing this type of thing. New subscriber. Enjoyed the video sir.
Thank you, and I have to agree, although I don't have in-depth knowledge to know everything that's going on, it's clear that an artifact like this provides no beneficial context, and this is one of this negative effects of an extremely broad law.
Archaeologists don't make the laws dummy. The laws are what they are because people dig and destroy the land to find artifacts. Exactly what they are doing now with fossils. Don't be surprised if they start making more legislature for fossil collecting.
@@iHUNTdeadThings definitely. I am mainly a detectorist but I am always looking for other items besides metal as I am detecting. I hunt the streams and rivers here in Pennsylvania and Maryland. I happened to find a whale flipper finger bone Fossil in a river. I have a video of it if you want to see it. I have been told it's about 7 million yrs old.
@i hunt dead things you never know. One find can either rewrite or add to the history of humanity. The famous clovis culture was found after a person showed an archeologist a strange point he found and the location which he found it. If you find an artifact, please leave it alone and contact an archeologist because you may help make history.
Thank you for explaining the law about artifacts. My husband and I moved from Ohio a few years back and would never have know this is illegal if not for you. We will make sure to throw artifacts back if we ever find them!
Growing up in Tampa there was a local canal being dug out. The kids used to dig through the large piles and one found a huge megla. It was very exciting to be able hold something that ancient in the palm of your hand. I was probably about 12 then and looking back almost 53 years ago it may not have been quite that big. Don't know how big they get but to a 12 year old it was huge.
They can be HUGE so it's not unlikely it actually was that big, but I have found a lot of my big memories from growing up weren't as big as I thought... or even from like a couple years ago LOL. I can only imagine how big a 5 inch meg would have looked in my hands at say 6 years old!
The bypass canal. Near eureka springs and 301 and near the over pass of I75 and Fowler 👍🏻. I’m a third generation native myself. I’ve found a few interesting things there. I mean I know a guy that found stuff there
You are too brave to get in the water by yourself. I found my very first shark tooth today while on vacation in Myrtle Beach. I have lived at the beach my entire life and this is the first tooth I have ever found. I am on cloud 9
It’s about respecting the people who came before and how they feel about discarded artifacts. The local tribes may have requested the law be made because of exploitation. Native artifacts should never be a cash commodity, they should only be for study and preservation so the culture isn’t forgotten. I too think artifacts should be preserved and studied, but if they are not from your culture then you aren’t the one who can decide that. I live on top of a slaughtered pueblo that was not made into a historic site. There are pottery shards and stone tools all over the area. The pueblo people do not want non-puebloans taking everything to sell for money. It’s disrespectful.
@@b.slocumb7763 exactly,and if it were ancient Greek or Roman ruins,a lot of people who would loot native American sites would be disgusted if you loot those sites.
Looting should be against the law. You have no argument from us. Isolated finds should AT LEAST be recovered, reported, and protected... everything else is just emotional role-playing
The wrinkled fingers at the end just proves you've had a fun day in the water lol. I live in SC, grew up in NC. We find arrowheads, spearpoints, and other artifacts on our hunting land in NC quite frequently. We are allowed to keep them here :)
Laws like that including random finds like this seem counter-productive. Less scrupulous people will just add them to their personal collections or sell them without anyone ever getting a chance to record the find.
Part of the reason was bad reporting compliance... but, it was before the says of smartphones and online apps, the reporting process would most likely be followed in the high 90th percentile if the isolated finds program were reinstated today.
I was out last weekend and was digging along the shore of river. Not in a state park or restricted area. River is literally full of trash and junk. Everything from gas station plastic cups to car parts. I was stopped by game warden. Turns out you cannot dig or sift for arrow heads. I had no idea. Find it on the surface, no problem. It is a class A misdemeanor, that is a step below a felony. I was honest with game warden and respectful. In turn, he realized I really did not know it was illegal and I was truthful with him. He wrote me a warning. Make sure you know laws, it isn’t worth getting into trouble over. I understand not digging in a burial site, but I think it should be ok along river where I was, but my opinion does not matter. Glad the game warden was reasonable and gave me a little mercy. Won’t be doing that again!
Found a few arrow heads and spear points on my grandparents land I kept them . The site was an encampment and even found net weight stones . As a kid it was amazing feeling finding points and beads .
I'd risk the felony, i've done stuff worse than this. lol. they find stuff all the time and don't show us. they would rather no one ever see these things over letting the riff raff find them.
What a awesome hobbie/business!! Part Indiana Jones, part daredevil! You guys have two things I would never want to be in the water with, gators, bull sharks. But I could see this being so addictive. The arrow head thing is just insane. You were holding a piece of our collective history and to just throw it back in the water is just dumb but I respect you for being on the up and up.
When I was a kid growing up in the Caribbean, An old sailor gave me a bag of Megalodon teeth in a red velvet bag..I have no idea what happened to them.
I grew up on Long Island and found old arrowheads all the time as a kid. My brother kept a few…..nobody ever bothered us for digging them up. Burial ground areas were always fenced off. You could walk through there on a path but you couldn’t dig or do anything…..just a walk through, usually followed by a bird sanctuary. It was considered private property. This was back in the late 1960s/early 1970s. Today, nobody is allowed in there except for a groundskeeper….there’s a locked gate. The bird sanctuary is still accessible with walking paths. The surrounding woods are quite beautiful but scarce as development has destroyed most of it.
We need more dead things! ??? Glad to see this out! Going to the peace river this morning, hoping for some extra good luck today Glorious finds! Felon!!! Looll
Don't get too bummed about losing that dive spot. Ther are ALWAYS more spots out there. I've lost many good spots to marine growth, natural filling in by sediment, and boat traffic. There are more out there. You'll get them. And they will be fresh and amazing.
When we first opened the Kings Bay Submarine Base on Crooked River, we are talking dirt roads and swamp and a few people. We found the little ones, up to an inch, by the dozens in the sand beside the roads. Across from the pier, at that time, was Crab Island, lil place. Our XO would have dive boat take him over, this having been left alone likely always, and he collected a number that were the size of his hand, couple a bit bigger. We couldn't get to the island, no authority, just him. Oops, referring to sharks teeth
It’s illegal in Georgia as well, but only because the government owns most of all the land around all the lakes in Georgia and they consider it stealing from the government. And it’s also illegal to pick up trash from the lake banks for the same reason. At least that’s what the game warden told my uncle who was doing both and almost went to jail for picking up trash.
I have been told the same on the particular river. Reason being that the sediment disruption hurts the underwater ecosystem. There are lithium ion batteries in the river. The irony.
I live in Southeast Kansas around where the Fall River and the Verdigris meet. Indian Creek drains into Fall River, Indian Creek goes all the way up past my father's house. On his property is a treasure trove of artifacts. All along the creek are ancient shallow sea fossils and artifacts. No shark teeth but plenty of crinoids and shells and ammonites. I have a pile of points and artifacts and I can tell you exactly where each one was found. They're only valuable if you can find some chump willing to pay for them, and I'd be damned if I ever gave up a piece I find. They're sacred to me.
That law only regards navigable waterways and other Public land, right? Was under the impression that artifacts were fair game on private property in Florida, unless something changed?
Dude I just found your channel and love it. I can X a couple spots on the Wekiva River that you would love. We pulled all sorts of good stuff out the holes there. Keep up the cool content!
I know damn well you didnt toss that back in the water no one around pishhhh , in the pocket it goes ... Florida has some serious messed up laws hands down !
i feel ya man. i live in west Virginia and its against the law to remove objects from state property. so metal detecting is pretty much banned unless its on private property. theyd rather let old historical objects rot than let someone find them and preserve them in a collection. they take it so far that if a park ranger sees you put a stick in your car youll likely get a fine and your vehicle searched.
The law is ridiculous. The same people the law was made for do not care and will continue to dig in unauthorized areas. Meanwhile the law abiding citizens leave the artifacts to be either paved over and destroyed or to be picked up by someone else. North Florida creek banks have been ravaged despite the no bank digging laws being put into effect.
I'm relatively new to fossil hunting but after finding giant armadillo scutes just washed up on the beach im obsessed! Ive never kayaked so ive been a bit limited to were ive hunted so far but plan to venture out in the future! Love ur vids! U make it look easy. Just curious not trying to ask for your honey hole or anything but what area is this? I haven't been above Arcadia and ive also never found anything that compares to your finds! Incredible! Also what does pathological mean in regards to that tooth? TIA
That area was southwest of Arcadia, but it has been shut down. It was my absolute favorite area. Pathological meaning it has some kind of deformation. Most people believe the deformation came from bad nutrition on the part of the Megalodon.
God sends those artifacts to us. They find us. I would be very sad if I was the maker of an arrowhead, then centuries and thousands of years go by, it gets lost in the Earth somewhere, never to be seen, held, admired or appreciated again. It makes us remember them, thankful, happy and be in wonder. So, definitely take it with you and share.
Wouldn't Florida's history museum appreciate receiving a piece like that? Why can't you turn it over to a museum to curate it for future generations to enjoy?
I have heard they are actually wildly abundant, and they have "barrels" of them not on display. I don't know this to be true, but I wouldn't be highly surprised.
@i hunt dead things That's pretty crazy. My parents live in Venice and I try to visit a couple times a year. Do you ever do guided hunts on the peace river?
love the way you set up your store. I'm opening a shop soon too, was planning a similar format to sell whole lots of my agatized coral for a set value price. Anyway cool channel for sure ill be binging it today for sure i love watching yall do this (I sub to other peace river divers and such also)
It's worth it. I was worried about dropping a couple hundred to host the website... have grossed 100k through the store in its short life. It did start with a few items.. but able to add apparel & toys when i realized it was something people wanted.
Sociopaths always pretend to have the interest of the public at heart when they get their controlling laws passed. Hats off to the professional archaeologist who were able to fool everyone. Well done lets "protect the graves".
My brother in law worked for Rinker in miami. He showed me a mega. that was as big as my head he found in a dredge line. He moved to new york and was killed in a car accident. Don't know where that tooth went.😮
Ga implemented the same law because so many people from different states were keeping Native American artifacts found in rivers and creeks etc. I solved this problem by making my own projectile points by learning how to flint Knapp
I have a question, if I moved to florida and in my possessions is an arrowhead or ax head from another state, part of the country . Would that be illegal? Or if a person buys a recenting flintknapped arrowhead on ebey?
DISTURBING HUMAN REMAINS (WHICH THE GOVERNMENT DOES REGULARILY UNDER THE GUISE OF RESEARCH OR SOME OTHER BS) IS ONE THING, FINDING/KEEPING AN ARROWHEAD IS ABSOLUTELY HARMLESS. SCREW THAT LAW
In Indiana you can suface hunt fields , rivers, streams but no digging. My buddy has a house in Florida for 30 years he use to find arrowheads and fossils while scuba diving in rivers, lakes , and along the coast.But all that changed a while back. Weird law. But law is the law. 😊
Thats not exactly right. The law is against very dangerous animals to our eco system. We have way to many invasive spices that are wrecking our native animals and land. You pet owners that turn out so many invasive spices is the cause of this. And it should have been done over 50 years ago.
The government enacts these sort of laws often times not to protect the environment or to avoid desecration and other excuses they use but rather, they realize that some of these artifacts and minerals that people might find have value and the government does not want ordinary citizens to sell things that they cannot easily track and tax. This is especially true in England and parts of Europe where finding treasure without telling the government can land you in jail. Despite the fact that these artifacts came from civilizations hundreds to thousands of years old and there might be people living today that are decedents of some of these early cultures, the government really doesn't have any rights to lay claim to them any more so than anyone else but they use their positions of power to write these so called laws giving them the legal right to steal them. There certainly isn't anything moral about these laws. They just want the revenue from them and don't want to see ordinary citizens profit from it. I use to be an avid rockhound but age and health stopped that. Allot of the sites that I use to go to that were "legal" collecting sites are now closed and it is "illegal" to collect them. In most cases they use the excuse that some species of plant or animal has been found on the property or someone found an Indian artifact nearby. I know of one such site on the south flank of a mountain that use to produce wonderful examples of the mineral quartz in clear crystals with associated rare minerals. They closed this site because on the north side of the mountain and a good hike away, someone found some Indian artifacts that indicated that there might be the remnants of an early encampment. There hasn't been an Indian artifact that I know of ever found in the old quartz quarry. There is allot national forest land here in the east and it has been said that some of this land was turned into NF because they wanted to hoard the resources within for themselves. This is most likely the case in some locations. The US government is sitting on many vast mineral resources that if they desired, could be of vital importance to our economy and much of it is on lands that were stolen from the public and turned into national forest, parks, etc. under the premises that it was to "protect" these areas. In some cases, I think this is true and it may be a good thing in order to keep logging and big mining corporations out of these areas but the average person, a guy with a shovel and a pick is not a significant threat to the environment if he is only doing it recreational and filling in any holes that he digs. It is all about control, power over the people. A way to limit them from obtaining wealth that can't be taxed.
When your that ripped, do you have to consistently keep going to the gym to maintain it? or can you just kind of slack of and go here and there and still have that bod?
I don't really know because I can't say I've ever taken more than week off unless I was sick... but the diet habits vary, and there I can only slack for a little while before I can tell.
I am surprised that you go diving alone with the real possibilities of Bull sharks and Gators in the water. When I lived in South West Florida most people say you can bet on both of them being present in any of the rivers.
They are there, but if you behave correctly and aren't in during the wrong season, they won't bother you. I have had 2 face to face encounters with alligators in my 3 latest dives.
I am of two minds. I have always just taken photos of natural stuff that I find, because I was raised in Ca, and so many state and national parks had a 'leave in place' policy. My dad would go to the old ghost town thatvwere NIT under park jurisdiction (back in the 1950s and 60s) and relic hunt. Sometimes in some unknown canyon or mine somewhere he would find the odd fossil. But that was back then. Sure, scientists and big money researchers see dollar signs, and that is a patronizing and reprehensible attitude... however I also see thecworst of us regular scuffs destroying habitat with 4 wheelers, poaching, stealing, trespassing, and just putting a bad name to relic and fossil hunting.
@@iHUNTdeadThings There was a guy here in the Daytona paper, that got his arm bitten off going behind the bar to take a leak, and he fell in, and got chomped on by an alligator. Poor kid lost his arm at 24 yo.
Point in the river- grave robbing? ? - so, we've all seen houses wash into rivers during floods on the news. If 20 to 500 years from now, someone finds a ceramic ash tray, 2 miles downstream, fashioned by someone in the destroyed house, 🤔 are they then a "robber" or should they be a felon?
What’s the difference between a flint rock shaped into an arrowhead by someone a few weeks ago and the one you found in the video? And how can one tell? That’s a pretty cool place by the way!
I think it has to do with how worn the edges are. After years in the water I don't think it would be very sharp. Kind of like how sea glass becomes worn smooth over time. I'm sure there's other ways an expert can use to identify if it's genuinely old & what area it belongs in. But I don't remember them.
They don't become worn unless they are tumbling in the river. But they can tell at times by staining from the river. Tannins take awhile to actually adhere, but that's not generally the way they date them, just a way for us to tell.
I remember like 25 years ago me and my like would do this ever weekend for like two years we collected so many teeth we filed a 100 ga fish tank with at less 3 inch deep instead of rocks now I look back at it man I wish I had that tank back
I used to find them across the street from my house... even found a cowboy boot spur.. I cant pick up stuff across my street? The amount of flint and arrowheads you can find after they churn the soil to plant tree farms... why not before they are destroyed?
7:25 so it seems that these rivers systems here in FL have a large amount shark teeth were primal feeding grounds for mostly younger Megs , or is that not correct?
I'm glad you put it back. All laws, no matter where are putt in place because some knucle-head caused a large enough problem for law makers to need to create the law. Those who were doing the correct actions end up suffering. If we would all follow common sense, concern for our neighbors/communities/county/states/country instead of the egocentric view that only they matter over everyone and thing, we wouldn't need so many laws to be made. (used to be a village board member in another state). Want to understand government? Run for a local position, become an election judge, attend meetings - so you know what's up, voice your opinion at meetings when asked for comment, volunteer in your community, etc. We all need to step up to the plate and do our part or it won't get done. "I Hunt Dead Things" you will find a better places on the river or elsewhere that will give you three times more than what that place has. It's how doing the right/correct thing works. Think of all the Seminoles who will bless you.
All states have some sort of misguided screwed up Laws. It's up to the people to push back and tell their representatives "NO" do not pass these crazy Laws. Of coarse, regular folk have to fight against lobbyist and municipalities due to their desire to pass laws that benefit them and not the citizens.
Do you really think the politicians who voted this artifact law into being, would throw that point back? It would go to their kids or grandkids! Laws for thee, but not for them!
He who makes the laws is the first one to break them.
@@PRRAMOS3155 🙂 How right you are!
Yeah there's always some reason to excuse you doing something.
Rich and powerful people break a lot of laws just because they get away with causing harm doesn’t mean it’s a good thing it would be nice if no one was above the law
Yes do you think I would pick it bare? If you clone 10,000 people like me and they go someplace like that and there's an actual artifact of some sort that's just limited I believe it if there were ten thousand of me or I'd leave it myself 10,000 . I got to live on this ball of dung I think it would have to be made of
Dung
Being part native American myself I doubt any of my ancestors are going to jump out of their grave and want their arrowhead back. Although I will say if you do stumble upon a burial site do let proper authorities and tribal authorities know. Other than that you should be able to keep that point.
Some laws are so stupid.
I've said for many years I wished they had put the native Americans in charge of the environment. This I can say. I lived with the Sioux 4 years plus.
It is to preserve certain sites and discorage digging other sites up.
Being Native American mixed but mostly Potawatomi and still using health services and going to my tribal government I have plent of arrowheads and also with my ID I was told I can have my eagle feather and transport or report or even with permission keep artifacts that may be indigenous
Don't tell them they will post a Wal-Mart o top of it.
@@southwestndn8401 They were made with difrences that they could read. So were meant to be found.
I would've thrown it back for sure.
Problem is my aim is s*** and I always end up throwing them into my boot on accident.
Shooting yourself in the foot!!!
Once it's home you can say you found it in the mountains or bought it at a tourist store. It's pretty hard to prove you found it and where..
Not at all according to archeologists... these have unique characteristics that would be easily identified by experts that would give insight to tribe & location
@@iHUNTdeadThings I just spoke with a friend who has collected points for years. I sent him this video. He says you can take points from private land but not public. So you found it in your yard...
I can understand grave digging, but who in the hell has the right to tell you what you can or can’t keep? Government is supposed to serve the people not control them!
In 1988 , I became a certified Open Water Diver. While doing upgrade training in Florida the next year, we made a side trip to Crystal River to drift dive. During that time you could enter the head water without permit or observation. I noted a huge old water soaked timber, hand cut right angle corners sloping from dry sand into the water. I decided to fan the sand on the upstream side while sitting in less than a foot of water figuring that if anything was there it would be trapped by the timber. I quickly found a green glass bottle stopper with tiny air bubbles, a glass rod applicater about 4" long and several encrusted hand wrought square nails in an area I was told had no human habitation. Every dive in every place I went, I would look for artifacts just for the shear joy of discovery. As always, they had to go back where they were found. Seeing your work along with the excitement and knowledge you share makes me glad for that first trip find.
The developers are doing all the damage In the wetlands. River divers and fossil and artifact collectors are preserving history for future generations. This is the beginning before they ban fossil diving state wide. Thx. for sharing.👍
Dollar dollar bills
Collectors do not preserve history, unless they are turning over their finds to museums. And removing those artifacts destroys the context. A lot is learned by the site itself. It should be excavated by archeologists. That said…that was a beautiful point.
There is unfortunately no context to be had from points in a river. Anything on land ESPECIALLY at a "site" can provide context, but these aren't able to provide the same. There are though, some under water sites... one example being the burial ground off the gulf of Florida. But river finds don't carry context.
@@RandomRangerRambles People like you are who are ruining everything. Sad. Making everything don't touch this or that. I bet you think the climate is getting hotter too and we all need to eat less meat.
Nearly 100% of artifacts end up in a museum warehouse box never to be seen again. A collector can share their finds with others daily instilling a personal link with history.
I spent well over 2 decades regularly diving the rivers here in lower South Carolina collecting artifacts and fossils. It is legal here. You must have a license and report what you find, but if you follow the rules, you can keep what you find. In theory it is a win-win situation. The state gets the info on what is in the rivers, and the divers get to keep their finds. Also the divers who are following the rules are more likely to report things they run across, like shipwrecks and special artifact concentrations. I've run across some amazing, and sometimes amusing things on the bottom of the rivers. While the gators and moccasins must be respected, the most dangerous creature in the river is the driver of the boat overhead.
I'm familiar with South Carolina's system, its a good one. Florida has had their nose in the private sectors business for a hundred years or more. They will fight you with your own money, just ask Mel Fisher or any salvor in the state how much trust they have in Florida bureaucrats. They rarely uncover anything themselves, they simply threaten and take what they want from the finders with zero recognition, a true bunch of pirates.
Edisto River by chance?
@@Ole_CornPop Edisto, Cooper, Wando, Ashley, Ashepoo, you name it.
I'm in the upstate. I love SC!
@clovishound5756 I use to work in the Edisto River with Ace Basin Adventures. DNR really screwed us all over a few years back but it is what it is.
To many laws and regulations. Not digging graves is understandable, but a lot of this comes down to money and archeologists not wanting amateur's doing this type of thing. New subscriber. Enjoyed the video sir.
Thank you, and I have to agree, although I don't have in-depth knowledge to know everything that's going on, it's clear that an artifact like this provides no beneficial context, and this is one of this negative effects of an extremely broad law.
Archaeologists don't make the laws dummy. The laws are what they are because people dig and destroy the land to find artifacts. Exactly what they are doing now with fossils. Don't be surprised if they start making more legislature for fossil collecting.
@@iHUNTdeadThings definitely. I am mainly a detectorist but I am always looking for other items besides metal as I am detecting. I hunt the streams and rivers here in Pennsylvania and Maryland. I happened to find a whale flipper finger bone Fossil in a river. I have a video of it if you want to see it. I have been told it's about 7 million yrs old.
you have a link?
@i hunt dead things you never know. One find can either rewrite or add to the history of humanity. The famous clovis culture was found after a person showed an archeologist a strange point he found and the location which he found it. If you find an artifact, please leave it alone and contact an archeologist because you may help make history.
Thank you for explaining the law about artifacts. My husband and I moved from Ohio a few years back and would never have know this is illegal if not for you. We will make sure to throw artifacts back if we ever find them!
Growing up in Tampa there was a local canal being dug out. The kids used to dig through the large piles and one found a huge megla. It was very exciting to be able hold something that ancient in the palm of your hand. I was probably about 12 then and looking back almost 53 years ago it may not have been quite that big. Don't know how big they get but to a 12 year old it was huge.
They can be HUGE so it's not unlikely it actually was that big, but I have found a lot of my big memories from growing up weren't as big as I thought... or even from like a couple years ago LOL. I can only imagine how big a 5 inch meg would have looked in my hands at say 6 years old!
The bypass canal. Near eureka springs and 301 and near the over pass of I75 and Fowler 👍🏻. I’m a third generation native myself. I’ve found a few interesting things there. I mean I know a guy that found stuff there
You are too brave to get in the water by yourself. I found my very first shark tooth today while on vacation in Myrtle Beach. I have lived at the beach my entire life and this is the first tooth I have ever found. I am on cloud 9
The rivers in Florida all have 🐊🐊
How did you enjoy your stay here
@@treyhargrove3075 we had the most delightful time.
Go to sit Augustine. You will find one in every hand full!
As a teenager I used to walk the fields before and after harvest, in Illinois, and found many arrowheads.
Dumbest law and even dumber to toss it back. I don't care what others think or do. What I find I keep.
One find can change history. Aren't you ever curious about the culture that made it.
Exactly. Dumb laws are made to be broken.
It’s about respecting the people who came before and how they feel about discarded artifacts. The local tribes may have requested the law be made because of exploitation. Native artifacts should never be a cash commodity, they should only be for study and preservation so the culture isn’t forgotten. I too think artifacts should be preserved and studied, but if they are not from your culture then you aren’t the one who can decide that. I live on top of a slaughtered pueblo that was not made into a historic site. There are pottery shards and stone tools all over the area. The pueblo people do not want non-puebloans taking everything to sell for money. It’s disrespectful.
@@b.slocumb7763 exactly,and if it were ancient Greek or Roman ruins,a lot of people who would loot native American sites would be disgusted if you loot those sites.
Looting should be against the law. You have no argument from us. Isolated finds should AT LEAST be recovered, reported, and protected... everything else is just emotional role-playing
You earned my subscription I’ve been in Florida, my whole life love to see other river rats doing what I love to do
thank you so much!
The wrinkled fingers at the end just proves you've had a fun day in the water lol. I live in SC, grew up in NC. We find arrowheads, spearpoints, and other artifacts on our hunting land in NC quite frequently. We are allowed to keep them here :)
Laws like that including random finds like this seem counter-productive.
Less scrupulous people will just add them to their personal collections or sell them without anyone ever getting a chance to record the find.
Part of the reason was bad reporting compliance... but, it was before the says of smartphones and online apps, the reporting process would most likely be followed in the high 90th percentile if the isolated finds program were reinstated today.
I was out last weekend and was digging along the shore of river. Not in a state park or restricted area. River is literally full of trash and junk. Everything from gas station plastic cups to car parts. I was stopped by game warden. Turns out you cannot dig or sift for arrow heads. I had no idea. Find it on the surface, no problem. It is a class A misdemeanor, that is a step below a felony. I was honest with game warden and respectful. In turn, he realized I really did not know it was illegal and I was truthful with him. He wrote me a warning. Make sure you know laws, it isn’t worth getting into trouble over. I understand not digging in a burial site, but I think it should be ok along river where I was, but my opinion does not matter. Glad the game warden was reasonable and gave me a little mercy. Won’t be doing that again!
Found a few arrow heads and spear points on my grandparents land I kept them . The site was an encampment and even found net weight stones . As a kid it was amazing feeling finding points and beads .
I'd risk the felony, i've done stuff worse than this. lol. they find stuff all the time and don't show us. they would rather no one ever see these things over letting the riff raff find them.
Pretty awesome content. I'm in NE Florida and surprised how much stuff you pulled up. Never new it was out there.
What a awesome hobbie/business!! Part Indiana Jones, part daredevil! You guys have two things I would never want to be in the water with, gators, bull sharks. But I could see this being so addictive. The arrow head thing is just insane. You were holding a piece of our collective history and to just throw it back in the water is just dumb but I respect you for being on the up and up.
When I was a kid growing up in the Caribbean, An old sailor gave me a bag of Megalodon teeth in a red velvet bag..I have no idea what happened to them.
I’m jealous of you finding all those shark teeth it so difficult finding them on the beach
I grew up on Long Island and found old arrowheads all the time as a kid. My brother kept a few…..nobody ever bothered us for digging them up. Burial ground areas were always fenced off. You could walk through there on a path but you couldn’t dig or do anything…..just a walk through, usually followed by a bird sanctuary. It was considered private property. This was back in the late 1960s/early 1970s. Today, nobody is allowed in there except for a groundskeeper….there’s a locked gate. The bird sanctuary is still accessible with walking paths. The surrounding woods are quite beautiful but scarce as development has destroyed most of it.
I'm so glad you understand the law. Too many people say screw it and keep it. Like another youtuber here in florida.
We need more dead things! ??? Glad to see this out! Going to the peace river this morning, hoping for some extra good luck today
Glorious finds!
Felon!!! Looll
Good luck! I haven't dove since early Feb!!
That’s so amazing! Never realized that you could find shark teeth in rivers. I am from Tennessee! Thanks
I remember in the 90’s looking for shark teeth in the Peace River and keeping many.
Whoever thought n passed this ridiculous law should have concrete shoes and dumped intto a canal
deep, shark infested water is better...trust me !
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Thank you
Don't get too bummed about losing that dive spot. Ther are ALWAYS more spots out there. I've lost many good spots to marine growth, natural filling in by sediment, and boat traffic. There are more out there. You'll get them. And they will be fresh and amazing.
My heart goes out to all thise amazing fossils the current is guaranteed to destroy
I found a couple camel toes once. Unfortunately they were Native and soon to be fossils so I walked the other way. Happy hunting bro.
thank you!
We all know that you really put that point in your pocket haha
My neoprene pants don't even have pockets!
is that stretch of river closed to fossil hunting permanently or is this a temporary situation?
I would like to believe temporary but there aren't any people with money willing to side with the fossil hunting community
@@iHUNTdeadThings LOL
Most divers put stuff like that in the sleeve of their suit. Lots of silver came off florida wrecks that way.
Knew a guy who found a pristine 4.5in clovis in the Flint River in Albany GA in the 20- teens. Most perfect point I've ever seen.
Many years ago we were in Venice ( I believe) and my wife picked up dozens of fossilized sharks teeth . Have no clue what happened to them.
When we first opened the Kings Bay Submarine Base on Crooked River, we are talking dirt roads and swamp and a few people. We found the little ones, up to an inch, by the dozens in the sand beside the roads. Across from the pier, at that time, was Crab Island, lil place. Our XO would have dive boat take him over, this having been left alone likely always, and he collected a number that were the size of his hand, couple a bit bigger. We couldn't get to the island, no authority, just him. Oops, referring to sharks teeth
It’s illegal in Georgia as well, but only because the government owns most of all the land around all the lakes in Georgia and they consider it stealing from the government. And it’s also illegal to pick up trash from the lake banks for the same reason. At least that’s what the game warden told my uncle who was doing both and almost went to jail for picking up trash.
I have been told the same on the particular river. Reason being that the sediment disruption hurts the underwater ecosystem. There are lithium ion batteries in the river. The irony.
Great to see your notification, and the video was top notch as always.
And thank you as always!
I live in Southeast Kansas around where the Fall River and the Verdigris meet. Indian Creek drains into Fall River, Indian Creek goes all the way up past my father's house. On his property is a treasure trove of artifacts. All along the creek are ancient shallow sea fossils and artifacts. No shark teeth but plenty of crinoids and shells and ammonites. I have a pile of points and artifacts and I can tell you exactly where each one was found. They're only valuable if you can find some chump willing to pay for them, and I'd be damned if I ever gave up a piece I find. They're sacred to me.
I'm from Kansas as well. If you want sharks teeth, we have them on the western side of the state. I just posted a short in April with some cool ones.
Back in the '70s we used to pull small shark teeth from Wekiva Springs. It's pretty cleaned out now.
Know if that's the case then they should put everything back that's in the museum's
It's an absolute addiction!! congratulations on your first taste
That law only regards navigable waterways and other Public land, right? Was under the impression that artifacts were fair game on private property in Florida, unless something changed?
Correct
Hahaha I love the fact that he clearly kept it. Hero!!!!
You broke Rule #1 in diving, Never Dive Alone! Glad you're OK 😂
I can't help it sometimes! I love diving alone. Just a day to really unwind.
Dude I just found your channel and love it. I can X a couple spots on the Wekiva River that you would love. We pulled all sorts of good stuff out the holes there. Keep up the cool content!
I know damn well you didnt toss that back in the water no one around pishhhh , in the pocket it goes ... Florida has some serious messed up laws hands down !
But but but! Turn the sound up at that point! 😁
i feel ya man. i live in west Virginia and its against the law to remove objects from state property. so metal detecting is pretty much banned unless its on private property. theyd rather let old historical objects rot than let someone find them and preserve them in a collection. they take it so far that if a park ranger sees you put a stick in your car youll likely get a fine and your vehicle searched.
Would love to film a video hunting fossils with you sometime!
It would be great to just get a chance to fossil hunt period. I'm on a dry spell. Once in the last 10 weeks probably
Hey there, came across your channel randomly. Curious, why is there so much fossil stuff in FL rivers? Also, is it only in rivers? Cool stuff
Because for millions of years it was all under water and part of the oceans so whatever died was there
I live in SW Florida. Do you guide for megs? Do I have to wait for winter or can we do it now?
The law is ridiculous. The same people the law was made for do not care and will continue to dig in unauthorized areas. Meanwhile the law abiding citizens leave the artifacts to be either paved over and destroyed or to be picked up by someone else. North Florida creek banks have been ravaged despite the no bank digging laws being put into effect.
I wish I could find a Megalodon tooth!
I think you have your fair share 😆
That is so many shark teeth in one spot lol. I am jealous.
I'm relatively new to fossil hunting but after finding giant armadillo scutes just washed up on the beach im obsessed! Ive never kayaked so ive been a bit limited to were ive hunted so far but plan to venture out in the future! Love ur vids! U make it look easy. Just curious not trying to ask for your honey hole or anything but what area is this? I haven't been above Arcadia and ive also never found anything that compares to your finds! Incredible! Also what does pathological mean in regards to that tooth? TIA
That area was southwest of Arcadia, but it has been shut down. It was my absolute favorite area. Pathological meaning it has some kind of deformation. Most people believe the deformation came from bad nutrition on the part of the Megalodon.
God sends those artifacts to us. They find us. I would be very sad if I was the maker of an arrowhead, then centuries and thousands of years go by, it gets lost in the Earth somewhere, never to be seen, held, admired or appreciated again. It makes us remember them, thankful, happy and be in wonder. So, definitely take it with you and share.
Wouldn't Florida's history museum appreciate receiving a piece like that? Why can't you turn it over to a museum to curate it for future generations to enjoy?
I have heard they are actually wildly abundant, and they have "barrels" of them not on display. I don't know this to be true, but I wouldn't be highly surprised.
@i hunt dead things That's pretty crazy. My parents live in Venice and I try to visit a couple times a year. Do you ever do guided hunts on the peace river?
I do not, but I have a website with river guides. www.ihdt.store/riverguides
Hello! This is your cyber mom. Megalodon, schmegaladon, no more diving by yourself. We love you 💕
But by myself is my favorite! I can talk to the camera, mess up, and nobody sees it!
Your Mom is great! Can't beat a Mom's love.😊
Very true (but that's not my real mom lol)
@@iHUNTdeadThings oh, nooooo! Still love. Enjoy!
love the way you set up your store. I'm opening a shop soon too, was planning a similar format to sell whole lots of my agatized coral for a set value price. Anyway cool channel for sure ill be binging it today for sure i love watching yall do this (I sub to other peace river divers and such also)
It's worth it. I was worried about dropping a couple hundred to host the website... have grossed 100k through the store in its short life. It did start with a few items.. but able to add apparel & toys when i realized it was something people wanted.
With that air pump do you have to decompress or come up slow like tank diving so you dont get the benz?
No, we aren't aren't at a dangerous depth. The longest version goes 30 feet, so in that case 1 safety stop is recommended
Sociopaths always pretend to have the interest of the public at heart when they get their controlling laws passed. Hats off to the professional archaeologist who were able to fool everyone. Well done lets "protect the graves".
My brother in law worked for Rinker in miami. He showed me a mega. that was as big as my head he found in a dredge line. He moved to new york and was killed in a car accident. Don't know where that tooth went.😮
Ga implemented the same law because so many people from different states were keeping Native American artifacts found in rivers and creeks etc. I solved this problem by making my own projectile points by learning how to flint Knapp
finding a arrowhead is a felony .. That's just seems dumb to me .
Hard to justify in my mind as well
I have a question, if I moved to florida and in my possessions is an arrowhead or ax head from another state, part of the country . Would that be illegal? Or if a person buys a recenting flintknapped arrowhead on ebey?
No & no, those are not offenses, nor is finding points on private property in FL
i used to dive in the Withlacoochee River? Are you near there in Central FL?
DISTURBING HUMAN REMAINS (WHICH THE GOVERNMENT DOES REGULARILY UNDER THE GUISE OF RESEARCH OR SOME OTHER BS) IS ONE THING, FINDING/KEEPING AN ARROWHEAD IS ABSOLUTELY HARMLESS. SCREW THAT LAW
I can't stand "Native Americans" claiming no one can touch things that are long gone and lost like that. It is lame.
And they aren't!
In Indiana you can suface hunt fields , rivers, streams but no digging. My buddy has a house in Florida for 30 years he use to find arrowheads and fossils while scuba diving in rivers, lakes , and along the coast.But all that changed a while back. Weird law. But law is the law. 😊
Law beinglaw is what the ss nazi officers said as they committed genocide.
Just saying.. the government kills more people than all criminals combined
May grandma used to have jars full of arrowhead from their Iowa farm.
Life was a lot simpler back in the day! I can only imagine the teeth just laying everywhere before anyone began searching.
What river is this?
Getting crazy in Florida. Now its a crime to keep aquarium fish also..
Thats not exactly right.
The law is against very dangerous animals to our eco system.
We have way to many invasive spices that are wrecking our native animals and land.
You pet owners that turn out so many invasive spices is the cause of this. And it should have been done over 50 years ago.
The government enacts these sort of laws often times not to protect the environment or to avoid desecration and other excuses they use but rather, they realize that some of these artifacts and minerals that people might find have value and the government does not want ordinary citizens to sell things that they cannot easily track and tax. This is especially true in England and parts of Europe where finding treasure without telling the government can land you in jail. Despite the fact that these artifacts came from civilizations hundreds to thousands of years old and there might be people living today that are decedents of some of these early cultures, the government really doesn't have any rights to lay claim to them any more so than anyone else but they use their positions of power to write these so called laws giving them the legal right to steal them. There certainly isn't anything moral about these laws. They just want the revenue from them and don't want to see ordinary citizens profit from it. I use to be an avid rockhound but age and health stopped that. Allot of the sites that I use to go to that were "legal" collecting sites are now closed and it is "illegal" to collect them. In most cases they use the excuse that some species of plant or animal has been found on the property or someone found an Indian artifact nearby. I know of one such site on the south flank of a mountain that use to produce wonderful examples of the mineral quartz in clear crystals with associated rare minerals. They closed this site because on the north side of the mountain and a good hike away, someone found some Indian artifacts that indicated that there might be the remnants of an early encampment. There hasn't been an Indian artifact that I know of ever found in the old quartz quarry. There is allot national forest land here in the east and it has been said that some of this land was turned into NF because they wanted to hoard the resources within for themselves. This is most likely the case in some locations. The US government is sitting on many vast mineral resources that if they desired, could be of vital importance to our economy and much of it is on lands that were stolen from the public and turned into national forest, parks, etc. under the premises that it was to "protect" these areas. In some cases, I think this is true and it may be a good thing in order to keep logging and big mining corporations out of these areas but the average person, a guy with a shovel and a pick is not a significant threat to the environment if he is only doing it recreational and filling in any holes that he digs. It is all about control, power over the people. A way to limit them from obtaining wealth that can't be taxed.
When your that ripped, do you have to consistently keep going to the gym to maintain it? or can you just kind of slack of and go here and there and still have that bod?
I don't really know because I can't say I've ever taken more than week off unless I was sick... but the diet habits vary, and there I can only slack for a little while before I can tell.
What is the chapter and section of the Florida Law on the arrow head?
267.13
I’m planning on making a trip to fl to do exactly this. Can’t wait to go! It’s one of my bucket list things to do.
Really enjoyed your video.
1000% sure that arrow point never seen that river again😂😂
I am surprised that you go diving alone with the real possibilities of Bull sharks and Gators in the water. When I lived in South West Florida most people say you can bet on both of them being present in any of the rivers.
They are there, but if you behave correctly and aren't in during the wrong season, they won't bother you. I have had 2 face to face encounters with alligators in my 3 latest dives.
I am of two minds. I have always just taken photos of natural stuff that I find, because I was raised in Ca, and so many state and national parks had a 'leave in place' policy. My dad would go to the old ghost town thatvwere NIT under park jurisdiction (back in the 1950s and 60s) and relic hunt. Sometimes in some unknown canyon or mine somewhere he would find the odd fossil.
But that was back then. Sure, scientists and big money researchers see dollar signs, and that is a patronizing and reprehensible attitude... however I also see thecworst of us regular scuffs destroying habitat with 4 wheelers, poaching, stealing, trespassing, and just putting a bad name to relic and fossil hunting.
Aren't those waters alligator infested? I would be too scared to just hang on the side of the boat like that.
There are many, but alligators don't behave the way they are painted by people. They would also track you from the surface.
@@iHUNTdeadThings There was a guy here in the Daytona paper, that got his arm bitten off going behind the bar to take a leak, and he fell in, and got chomped on by an alligator. Poor kid lost his arm at 24 yo.
It's that crazy! It's usually vulnerable people at the banks. Glad he was able to walk away with his life.
Can I ask what river this is in Florida
Point in the river- grave robbing? ?
- so, we've all seen houses wash into rivers during floods on the news. If 20 to 500 years from now, someone finds a ceramic ash tray, 2 miles downstream, fashioned by someone in the destroyed house,
🤔 are they then a "robber" or should they be a felon?
What’s the difference between a flint rock shaped into an arrowhead by someone a few weeks ago and the one you found in the video? And how can one tell? That’s a pretty cool place by the way!
I think it has to do with how worn the edges are.
After years in the water I don't think it would be very sharp.
Kind of like how sea glass becomes worn smooth over time.
I'm sure there's other ways an expert can use to identify if it's genuinely old & what area it belongs in. But I don't remember them.
They don't become worn unless they are tumbling in the river. But they can tell at times by staining from the river. Tannins take awhile to actually adhere, but that's not generally the way they date them, just a way for us to tell.
I remember like 25 years ago me and my like would do this ever weekend for like two years we collected so many teeth we filed a 100 ga fish tank with at less 3 inch deep instead of rocks now I look back at it man I wish I had that tank back
Pretty sure you can keep arrowheads that are found on a river bed in florida
If you are into felonies...
Lots of great finds
I used to find them across the street from my house... even found a cowboy boot spur.. I cant pick up stuff across my street? The amount of flint and arrowheads you can find after they churn the soil to plant tree farms... why not before they are destroyed?
If it's privately owned, you can... but off public property they have some very strict laws today.
This law is completely bogus on waterways. If you don't pick it up... It WILL be destroyed.
Uh what part did Sarasota county shut down? I have heard nothing of this. Hope I’m not looking in the areas.
What river you at or county??
That's a good spot your at, what river are you at?
Are there gator concerns in the area you dive?
Dang, did i just see a cigarette filter at 2:06? Hope not. Awesome video btw. Your muscles must scare away the large heliothermic herptiles near by😂.
I think that's shell, but I've pulled countless vapes, bottles, batteries, and like 3 stereos out of that 1 river.
Yes obviously anybody would keep stuff like that and it should be kept the maker of such items would want it to be appreciated today
7:25 so it seems that these rivers systems here in FL have a large amount shark teeth were primal feeding grounds for mostly younger Megs , or is that not correct?
100% correct
I'm glad you put it back. All laws, no matter where are putt in place because some knucle-head caused a large enough problem for law makers to need to create the law. Those who were doing the correct actions end up suffering. If we would all follow common sense, concern for our neighbors/communities/county/states/country instead of the egocentric view that only they matter over everyone and thing, we wouldn't need so many laws to be made. (used to be a village board member in another state).
Want to understand government? Run for a local position, become an election judge, attend meetings - so you know what's up, voice your opinion at meetings when asked for comment, volunteer in your community, etc. We all need to step up to the plate and do our part or it won't get done.
"I Hunt Dead Things" you will find a better places on the river or elsewhere that will give you three times more than what that place has. It's how doing the right/correct thing works. Think of all the Seminoles who will bless you.
All states have some sort of misguided screwed up Laws. It's up to the people to push back and tell their representatives "NO" do not pass these crazy Laws. Of coarse, regular folk have to fight against lobbyist and municipalities due to their desire to pass laws that benefit them and not the citizens.
Keep in mind that most of those who make laws are inept, greedy and corrupt ! What I find I keep or sell ! If I don't do it, someone else will !!
I'm in Arkansas, but would love to come down there and hunt. Can you give some pointers as to where would be great spots to hunt?
Your best shot is to take a guide or charter... i have a list of both on my website
Why would all the teeth be in that small of a space?😊
The rivers errode the banks and basically pushes them down river until they get trapped in gravel areas... really condenses the hunt
Huge fan of your content. What helemt are you using in this video?
It's one you have to create essentially. I made a lift of the parts: www.ihdt.store/equipment
That’s a nice collection bag, where did you get it?
Those are from meghunter.net