I bought this a month ago and just used it now after reading every part of the manual. For some reason the wood clamp does not have a hole in the rear where you can tighten the clamp along the horizontal axis (behind the black vertical tube part) so no clue how the hell I'm supposed to keep a piece of wood securely fastened. That aside the first test (without cutting anything) scared the BEJEZUZ out of me so much I had to wait 30m minutes before the adrenaline subsided (I'm really not joking - I kept imagining the blade entering my chest even though I was at it's side lol). It is INCREDIBLY powerful! One I gained some confidence from cutting a couple of small plywood pieces it made a sudden jolt...or rather the wood did. I IMMEDIATELY stopped and unplugged the saw from the mains and checked the blade. The blade was fine but then I realized the problem. In the saw groove where the saw enters to finish a cut was a piece of wood. This was sticking up slightly so when I came to sawing the next piece those two pieces impacted each other. *WARNING* Do *NOT* use the saw for small trimming!!! I was trying to trim small sections about 2-3mm thick which is why they keep falling into the groove. I know this may seem common sense to many of you seasoned woodworkers but for us beginners PLEASE take heed. Lesson learned! That clamp issue is irking me hard still. Grrrrrrrrr *EDIT:* I don't know how but the clamp works just fine. I thought it needed fastening with a clamp in the rear at the bottom but I think I figured it out. It's designed to be slightly at an angle so when you tighten it it pushes against the inside of where it is slotted into. If that makes any sense. So sorry to Titan, it all works the way it's supposed to :] OH and btw. The sawdust bag sucks. Was far more sawdust (I used goggles and a mask so please do the same) on the outside than in the bag. It's tightening spring or whatever you wana call it at the opening of the bag is terrible. It's essentially just a piece of stiff wire.
Brill , I bought this exact same saw today, I'm fairly new to hobby carpentry so didn't need to buy "site" spec tools, after watching the video I feel a bit more confident about setting my saw up.... Good shout about the ear defenders !
I've only just started watching your channel so I'm on catch up, I bought one of these before Covid lock down to build some decking for my daughter that's the reason I didn't want to spend a lot it did a decent job and is still going to this day.I must say mine is slightly different it has a cam system to lock the angle swing it works a treat instead of that horrible knob you have, good luck with it 👍
I've just got this as a replacement for an unwieldy slide version, and found this video really helpful for familiarising myself quickly - thanks for making a lot more sense to me than a written booklet. Really appreciate the time you took to cover all the setup info. I'm wondering if you ever went on to improve the fence, and if you have covered it in a video already - apologies if you have, I checked the titles and didn't spot it, but am working my way through all your videos in order now ;) I'd love to see what you might have done, and any tips for swapping out the short fence for a nice long workbench fence (maybe 2 metres) with a few stop options.
I didn’t I’m afraid, I realised I barely used it and it took up space in a small workshop so had to go. I’m pleased the video was a little helpful though!
I bought the Titan SDS hammer drill for about fifty quid and it is unbelievably powerful and came with bits that would cost more than £50 anywhere else. The chisel action destroyed some old render on a garden wall and removed it in minutes whereas a bolster and mallet was taking hours.
Mate your videos are amazing. Love the intro. Been trying to make myself a very short video intro including my channel logo to put at the start of all my videos but I'm not good at things like that. The quality of your videos is top notch, your a natural behind the camera
Really helpful video, thank you. Am trying to adjust the blade so it's square to the fence. Only slightly out, but no mention of how to adjust in the instructions. I tried undoing the hex fixings & they are not for moving with my allen keys. Thought I must be doing something wrong, and found this, pointing out the hex slots for adjusting the fence. So thank you for clarifying what I need to do, now I need to find some levers! Have subscribed and hope to find your planned video on creating your own fence. Cheers.
The very first video I watched of you since finding out about this Ch - And blow me down - It's a video relevant to what Im looking to buy .. I must admit the plastic don't give me the good feels, but it did cut well enough.. Great review
Thank you for one of the best and most informative product video I have ever watched,having just bought this chop saw solely on your recommendation,so I feel ready to crack on so thanks again.
Fantastic detailed video, well done. Have you changed the blade yet and if so do you have a video as I have the titan ttb794msw and I'm finding difficult to change blade as manual isn't great.
Hi Dean, I am a new subscriber to your channel and have binge watched. I have a cheap Macalister mitre saw from B&Q, cost me £55 and it does what I need it to do, no point in spending megabucks as I don't use it all the time. Loving your channel and look forward to your future postings. Keep up the good work. 👍
Lovely informative video! I love woodwork and bought this as my circular saw is too heavy for cutting small pieces that i need for a diy project. I couldn't work out how to keep the plate in place and by watching your video i realised the yellow knob was not in place on my machine. I found it in the box and sorted! Thanks so much. New subscriber 😁
I know nothing about it I’m afraid. I think Evolution are releasing a bunch of new products so that could explain the price drop. I think in this price range they’re probably pretty similar
Handy little saw for £60.00 Dean it beats using your hand saw. Ideal for the home workshop. Your picture quality absolutely is superb. What camera are you using? Tony
@@WoodworkJourney By Ek Dean you've lost me after Fuji.........Your picture quality is the best I've ever seen on YT so far........I've been scrutinizing it, it's amazing. Tony
Thank you very much, I was doing another channel for a few years before this one so graduated from webcams, basic cameras, and DSLRs before my Fuji. I enjoy product photography on the side 😊
Comparing the Titan to my experience with cheap mitre saws, sliding and not: the Titan has a less aggressive start; and seems smoother on its bearings. The Screwfix no-quibble exchange during the guarantee period, another strong point.
Definitely, I mentioned the screwfix policy on my last video and think it’s great. What makes this seem like a harsher start is the fact that the whole thing is so light I guess
New sub here courtesy of Keith Brown 👋 I got the evolution R210CMS which is a similar saw, price and quality-wise. The stock blade was okay but I highly recommend swapping it out for a better one (strange arbor size though, trend make a blade that fits). It has similar downsides to this one, but for a casual user I can't sniff at the price.
Thanks! Yeah pretty much everything that’s cuts comes with a rubbish stock blade. I have a feeling CTS also make some blades specifically for evolution stuff as well.
Thanks for making this video. It is really informative. However, I am confused between this and the Mac allister mitre saw. Both are of the same price range. Any ideas on the other one?
If you’re looking for a mitre cut then yes, there is a bolt with a yellow top just behind the fence. Loosen that, spin the unit in the table to get the desired angle, then tighten up the bolt again
@@WoodworkJourney thank you so so much! Thank you for replying. I am going to be brave and give it a go today. It’s been sat collecting dust but after watching your video I am gonna give it a go x Thank you so much and happy Easter xx
Using it as its cheap. Would really like a laser :) but the issue I appear to have and not sure if its fault, when you use the slide function, on mine if you watch the blade on a straight cut it ends up not running true. Anyone else got same issue?
Meee!! I just got mine and I thought it was the old door surround that was causing my straight edge skirting to sit out. But then I realised it was the blade not doing a true straight cut 😮. Also when doing a 45 angle the bottom plate that turns moved on me! But it’s my first time so I’m still learning.
I'm on my second Titan mitre saw (310mm cross cut model) I exchanged the first as it wouldn't cut square. Second one was worse out of box. Would love to know how to set it up
Woodworking Beginner: New - Update. This test is only if you want to saw with precision with a miter saw.(test is not intended for rough and hard work). Tips and Test: It's better to know than not to know. Important to know if you would like to saw with precision. (avoid torsion as much as possible)! Always choose a Miter saw with a handle positioned in a VERTICAL line above the saw blade. Everything must be aligned, slide rails, handle, and saw blade,it is much better this way the blade will not tilt. Because there is some torsion in the aluminum housing . And choose an engine with softstart on it to prevent wear of the gear and worm shaft. It is very important that everything is aligned. Here are some examples to show how the handle must be positioned above the blade. First option: handle vertical positioned above the saw blade. Bosch gcm 800 sj / Bosch gcm 8 sjl / Evolution rage 3 / FESTOOL KS 60 / Bosch GCM 8 SDE / FESTOOL KS 60 E KAPEX / Metabo KGSV 72 Xact/ Bosch PCM 8 SD / Hitachi C10FSH / Ridgid MS255SR 10-inch / Evolution Fury3-S / Evolution R255SMS / Metabo HPT C10FSBS / Hitachi C10FSB / Hitachi C10FS. Second optie: handle horizontal positioned above the saw blade / Evolution R185SMS / Evolution F255SMS / Evolution RAGE3R255 SMS3 . (This also is the case with the Miter saw without the slide rails). (If you want). You can test it yourself at home if there is torsion in the aluminum housing. Step-1. First you make a saw cut from +-5 mm deep in to a flat piece of wood about +- 20 mm thick to this with the normal handle positioned on the right side of the Miter saw (the wood it will remain in place until the test is completed). Step-2. Then repeat this by pushing the saw blade down with your hand or finger on the aluminum protective cover were the saw blade is cased in. Just now only do this without the running engine. Step-3. Now you can see if the saw blade will be positioned in or next to the saw cut. If the saw blade is (+- 0,2 / 0,5 mm) next to the saw cut then there is torsion in the aluminum housing. (test is completed). Conclusion: Therefor it is much better to choose a Miter saw with the handle positioned VERTICAL in line above the saw blade. The second option is the handle positioned HORIZONTAL in line above the saw blade. Remember this, the test is only about torsion and nothing else how further away the handle is from the saw blade how more chance of torsion in the aluminum housing, you better not go for that. (the choices are yours). Also with a cheap slide miter saw it is still better the handgriff in line a above the saw blade than on the right side. Maybe they will make it someday then we have a winner... P.S. When you measure the vertical 90 degrees angle square (Digital Level Box) of you're sawblade don't forget that there is always some torsion in the aluminum housing.
Woodwork Joinery, I think the point is, that a handle that's off to the side will tend to pull the blade out of line - whereas with a handle that's directly in line with the edge of the blade, you're pulling straight down without twisting, and the cut should be exactly where you expect it to be
I bought this a month ago and just used it now after reading every part of the manual.
For some reason the wood clamp does not have a hole in the rear where you can tighten the clamp along the horizontal axis (behind the black vertical tube part) so no clue how the hell I'm supposed to keep a piece of wood securely fastened.
That aside the first test (without cutting anything) scared the BEJEZUZ out of me so much I had to wait 30m minutes before the adrenaline subsided (I'm really not joking - I kept imagining the blade entering my chest even though I was at it's side lol). It is INCREDIBLY powerful!
One I gained some confidence from cutting a couple of small plywood pieces it made a sudden jolt...or rather the wood did. I IMMEDIATELY stopped and unplugged the saw from the mains and checked the blade. The blade was fine but then I realized the problem. In the saw groove where the saw enters to finish a cut was a piece of wood. This was sticking up slightly so when I came to sawing the next piece those two pieces impacted each other.
*WARNING* Do *NOT* use the saw for small trimming!!!
I was trying to trim small sections about 2-3mm thick which is why they keep falling into the groove. I know this may seem common sense to many of you seasoned woodworkers but for us beginners PLEASE take heed.
Lesson learned!
That clamp issue is irking me hard still. Grrrrrrrrr
*EDIT:* I don't know how but the clamp works just fine. I thought it needed fastening with a clamp in the rear at the bottom but I think I figured it out. It's designed to be slightly at an angle so when you tighten it it pushes against the inside of where it is slotted into. If that makes any sense. So sorry to Titan, it all works the way it's supposed to :]
OH and btw. The sawdust bag sucks. Was far more sawdust (I used goggles and a mask so please do the same) on the outside than in the bag. It's tightening spring or whatever you wana call it at the opening of the bag is terrible. It's essentially just a piece of stiff wire.
Brill , I bought this exact same saw today, I'm fairly new to hobby carpentry so didn't need to buy "site" spec tools, after watching the video I feel a bit more confident about setting my saw up.... Good shout about the ear defenders !
I've only just started watching your channel so I'm on catch up, I bought one of these before Covid lock down to build some decking for my daughter that's the reason I didn't want to spend a lot it did a decent job and is still going to this day.I must say mine is slightly different it has a cam system to lock the angle swing it works a treat instead of that horrible knob you have, good luck with it 👍
I've just got this as a replacement for an unwieldy slide version, and found this video really helpful for familiarising myself quickly - thanks for making a lot more sense to me than a written booklet. Really appreciate the time you took to cover all the setup info. I'm wondering if you ever went on to improve the fence, and if you have covered it in a video already - apologies if you have, I checked the titles and didn't spot it, but am working my way through all your videos in order now ;) I'd love to see what you might have done, and any tips for swapping out the short fence for a nice long workbench fence (maybe 2 metres) with a few stop options.
I didn’t I’m afraid, I realised I barely used it and it took up space in a small workshop so had to go.
I’m pleased the video was a little helpful though!
I bought the Titan SDS hammer drill for about fifty quid and it is unbelievably powerful and came with bits that would cost more than £50 anywhere else. The chisel action destroyed some old render on a garden wall and removed it in minutes whereas a bolster and mallet was taking hours.
I’ve got a few Titan things now and they’re not refined, but they get the job done
Mate your videos are amazing. Love the intro. Been trying to make myself a very short video intro including my channel logo to put at the start of all my videos but I'm not good at things like that. The quality of your videos is top notch, your a natural behind the camera
Thank you very much! 😊
Sir. Thanks. You saved me trying to understand the manual! Great thanks!
Glad it helped
Thanks been meaning to use this saw for a while and couldn't figure out the instructions 😳 great clear explanations 👍
Really helpful video, thank you. Am trying to adjust the blade so it's square to the fence. Only slightly out, but no mention of how to adjust in the instructions. I tried undoing the hex fixings & they are not for moving with my allen keys. Thought I must be doing something wrong, and found this, pointing out the hex slots for adjusting the fence. So thank you for clarifying what I need to do, now I need to find some levers! Have subscribed and hope to find your planned video on creating your own fence. Cheers.
The very first video I watched of you since finding out about this Ch - And blow me down - It's a video relevant to what Im looking to buy .. I must admit the plastic don't give me the good feels, but it did cut well enough.. Great review
Cheers! I get what you mean about the plastic. Seeing as it’ll be stationary once I find a home then it shouldn’t be an issue thankfully
Always know I can turn to your vids for good advice!
Cheers dude!
Thank you for one of the best and most informative product video I have ever watched,having just bought this chop saw solely on your recommendation,so I feel ready to crack on so thanks again.
thank you Dean! xo I typically just make 90 deg cuts with my 10" Dewalt.
Thank you!
Fantastic detailed video, well done.
Have you changed the blade yet and if so do you have a video as I have the titan ttb794msw and I'm finding difficult to change blade as manual isn't great.
Thanks, unfortunately I realised I don’t have a need for a mitre saw these days so I’ve moved it on
Brilliant Video, very informative and I just went and bought myself one for a DIY project, wish me luck! 😂
Hi Dean, I am a new subscriber to your channel and have binge watched. I have a cheap Macalister mitre saw from B&Q, cost me £55 and it does what I need it to do, no point in spending megabucks as I don't use it all the time.
Loving your channel and look forward to your future postings. Keep up the good work. 👍
Thank you very much Steve, that’s very kind of you
I've got an Aldi powder craft I bought new for 24 quid. Does the job. Titan tools are good I have several.
Lovely informative video! I love woodwork and bought this as my circular saw is too heavy for cutting small pieces that i need for a diy project. I couldn't work out how to keep the plate in place and by watching your video i realised the yellow knob was not in place on my machine. I found it in the box and sorted! Thanks so much. New subscriber 😁
Thank you very much! I’m glad I was able to help 😊
Great review thank you. Do you know if the Evolution R210CMS is any better or much the same? Screw fix have just dropped the price
I know nothing about it I’m afraid. I think Evolution are releasing a bunch of new products so that could explain the price drop. I think in this price range they’re probably pretty similar
Handy little saw for £60.00 Dean it beats using your hand saw. Ideal for the home workshop. Your picture quality absolutely is superb. What camera are you using? Tony
Thanks Tony! I use a Fuji XT3, then record in 4K and RAW. I edit as 1080 so I can zoom in without losing quality, then upscale to 4K on export 😊
@@WoodworkJourney By Ek Dean you've lost me after Fuji.........Your picture quality is the best I've ever seen on YT so far........I've been scrutinizing it, it's amazing. Tony
Thank you very much, I was doing another channel for a few years before this one so graduated from webcams, basic cameras, and DSLRs before my Fuji.
I enjoy product photography on the side 😊
I have the TTB794MSW which is newest sliding model version. I don't see any screw holes to attach a wood fence for zero clearance board to the fence.
Hi, good video, lots of good points covered. Thanks
Thank you 😊
Really helpful video! This showed me things that the manual didn't explain so thank you 🤗
I just bought this mitre saw.I have to join two pieces of skirting with a 45 degree bevel cut.Will the saw cut each angle.Thank you
It will, just turn over the wood and the setting stays the same
I’d say that’s worth £60 of anyone’s money! As long as it does what you need it to do - cut length\height etc.
Definitely!
Comparing the Titan to my experience with cheap mitre saws, sliding and not: the Titan has a less aggressive start; and seems smoother on its bearings. The Screwfix no-quibble exchange during the guarantee period, another strong point.
Definitely, I mentioned the screwfix policy on my last video and think it’s great.
What makes this seem like a harsher start is the fact that the whole thing is so light I guess
Very helpful, thank you.
Good one! Very happy
Bob
England
New sub here courtesy of Keith Brown 👋
I got the evolution R210CMS which is a similar saw, price and quality-wise. The stock blade was okay but I highly recommend swapping it out for a better one (strange arbor size though, trend make a blade that fits).
It has similar downsides to this one, but for a casual user I can't sniff at the price.
Thanks! Yeah pretty much everything that’s cuts comes with a rubbish stock blade. I have a feeling CTS also make some blades specifically for evolution stuff as well.
SAXTON blades, that’s who I was thinking of
Thanks for making this video. It is really informative.
However, I am confused between this and the Mac allister mitre saw. Both are of the same price range. Any ideas on the other one?
None at all I’m afraid
Helpful, thank you
thank you for the review. Can the same blae cut metal as well ?
No, I don’t think so, that would be the Evolution one for that I think
What is measurement from back to front , as in no slide carriage , from wall behind to front of saw 👍
Please can you show me how to cut an angle. Do I adjust the dial at the back? X
If you’re looking for a mitre cut then yes, there is a bolt with a yellow top just behind the fence. Loosen that, spin the unit in the table to get the desired angle, then tighten up the bolt again
@@WoodworkJourney thank you so so much! Thank you for replying. I am going to be brave and give it a go today. It’s been sat collecting dust but after watching your video I am gonna give it a go x Thank you so much and happy Easter xx
How did it go?@@1971gladys
great video. thanks
Glad you liked it!
Time for a follow. Love your videos!
Thank you Steven! I’ll be back with them as soon as I’m back to full strength after this covid bout
Using it as its cheap. Would really like a laser :) but the issue I appear to have and not sure if its fault, when you use the slide function, on mine if you watch the blade on a straight cut it ends up not running true. Anyone else got same issue?
Meee!! I just got mine and I thought it was the old door surround that was causing my straight edge skirting to sit out. But then I realised it was the blade not doing a true straight cut 😮. Also when doing a 45 angle the bottom plate that turns moved on me! But it’s my first time so I’m still learning.
Is it good for beginners?
Sure
I'm on my second Titan mitre saw (310mm cross cut model) I exchanged the first as it wouldn't cut square. Second one was worse out of box. Would love to know how to set it up
very good just used it to put a deck down , iam pleased with it very usfull DIY cheers
Could this be used for cutting logs for a log burner
Small ones I guess
Can this be used to cut aluminum?
I don’t see why not, may need to change the blade though
I’ve got this saw but it doesn’t cut square. So inaccurate.
Any chance someone could show a blade change on this puppy lol😂
8.50 yes pls.
It’s on the list 👍
You didnt show us how to adjust the blade if it isnt square.
Apologies
So nice to have an Englishman reviewing and not wearing those baseball caps !
Can’t promise I’ll never wear a cap but it’s not a regular part of my wardrobe lol
Not stoppng for 5 minutes to tell you ' who's sponsoring this video ' in a 15 minute video is a bonus too!
you only need to wear a baseball cap when you start sawing for extra safety :D
Bought this saw to make cages to put over my wife's radish seeds an tomato plants to keep squirrel an pigeon off an its perfect
more like £99
Huh? They’re £64.98 looking on the app
Woodworking Beginner: New - Update.
This test is only if you want to saw with precision with a miter saw.(test is not intended for rough and hard work).
Tips and Test: It's better to know than not to know.
Important to know if you would like to saw with precision. (avoid torsion as much as possible)!
Always choose a Miter saw with a handle positioned in a VERTICAL line above the saw blade.
Everything must be aligned, slide rails, handle, and saw blade,it is much better this way the blade will not tilt.
Because there is some torsion in the aluminum housing .
And choose an engine with softstart on it to prevent wear of the gear and worm shaft.
It is very important that everything is aligned.
Here are some examples to show how the handle must be positioned above the blade.
First option: handle vertical positioned above the saw blade.
Bosch gcm 800 sj / Bosch gcm 8 sjl / Evolution rage 3 / FESTOOL KS 60 / Bosch GCM 8 SDE / FESTOOL KS 60 E KAPEX / Metabo KGSV 72 Xact/ Bosch PCM 8 SD / Hitachi C10FSH / Ridgid MS255SR 10-inch / Evolution Fury3-S / Evolution R255SMS / Metabo HPT C10FSBS / Hitachi C10FSB / Hitachi C10FS.
Second optie: handle horizontal positioned above the saw blade / Evolution R185SMS / Evolution F255SMS / Evolution RAGE3R255 SMS3 .
(This also is the case with the Miter saw without the slide rails).
(If you want). You can test it yourself at home if there is torsion in the aluminum housing.
Step-1. First you make a saw cut from +-5 mm deep in to a flat piece of wood about +- 20 mm thick to this with the normal handle positioned on the right side of the Miter saw (the wood it will remain in place until the test is completed).
Step-2. Then repeat this by pushing the saw blade down with your hand or finger on the aluminum protective cover were the saw blade is cased in. Just now only do this without the running engine.
Step-3. Now you can see if the saw blade will be positioned in or next to the saw cut. If the saw blade is (+- 0,2 / 0,5 mm) next to the saw cut then there is torsion in the aluminum housing.
(test is completed).
Conclusion: Therefor it is much better to choose a Miter saw with the handle positioned VERTICAL in line above the saw blade.
The second option is the handle positioned HORIZONTAL in line above the saw blade.
Remember this, the test is only about torsion and nothing else how further away the handle is from the saw blade how more chance of torsion in the aluminum housing, you better not go for that. (the choices are yours).
Also with a cheap slide miter saw it is still better the handgriff in line a above the saw blade than on the right side. Maybe they will make it someday then we have a winner...
P.S. When you measure the vertical 90 degrees angle square (Digital Level Box) of you're sawblade don't forget that there is always some torsion in the aluminum housing.
This comment has confused the heck out of me
Woodwork Joinery, I think the point is, that a handle that's off to the side will tend to pull the blade out of line - whereas with a handle that's directly in line with the edge of the blade, you're pulling straight down without twisting, and the cut should be exactly where you expect it to be