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One of the moments when the 'US industrial military complex' shone through a bit less subtler than in most episodes. The staff weapon is elegant, can kill in one shot, and its crystal technology hardly ever depletes. Sure, there are instances where a gun can be more advantageous, but why SG command never replaced its weaponry for goa'uld weapons, at least partially, was in my humble opinion, a continuity error. Sure they can hardly mass produce or fix them, but they could pretty much scavenge them by the wagons on certain trips. Dont tell me having a Zat in the back pocket to stun people or disintegrate anything and anyone wouldnt come in handy in just about any situation. Sure they used them sometimes, but not as much as they could have. Im pretty sure they retroactively regretted giving a stun gun a disintegrate function, so they shied away from it. I suppose one could chalk it up to the Goa'uld-Asgard treaties which would prevent Earth being technologically too advanced, but even when those treaties became null and void it hardly happened. And by that point, Earth had spaceships, too. Another matter was that guns could fight replicators, I suppose. Although why a Zet's third shot wouldnt disintegrate a replicator, is a mystery as well. Maybe we can technobabble it away with 'if the first two shots werent effective, a third wouldnt be either."
@@Grivehn Look, SG is hardly a realistic show, but if you want to look at it realistically, staff weapons are not much better than a bow and arrow. You can literally dodge their blast with normal human reaction speed. You can't dodge a bullet. Also, "human weapons" have all kinds of optics allowing them to be precise and deadly to short-medium-long ranges while staff weapons are just "hip-fired" so it would be a miracle if they hit anything that's not directly in front of them. Guns are just better.
Me an intellectual "well achtshually" *pushes glasses up nose "the jaffa could paint the target with a laser that imparts a charge to guide a plasma bolt at the target ignoring any slow evasive maneuvers" is what I wish they did, but yeah it's just another stick to beat slaves with, not a weapon of war.
Stargate ignores the idea of cultural colonialism and whether it's right for the U.S. to impose its beliefs on every one they meet. By contrast startrek has a discussion about why they should for moral reasons take part in cultural colonization for the good of the aliens they meet. Just because you can parachute in and upend leoples cultures doesn't mean that's the right thing to do, especially given all the times we've seen indigenous tribes get wiped out by more established cultures.
It was despised internally immediately. Amanda Tapping has given interviews where she mentions hating the line immediately, but that she didn't have the confidence in her position that early to tell her bosses that this was a bad line. As time went on, Tapping reportedly would actually push back at times. Another thing from the pilot that the producers hated was that Showtime pressured them into including the gratuitous nudity scene where a woman is disrobed and implanted with a goa'uld.
@@brianmulholland2467 Yeah the visible stripping of Sha'rai not in such a usually light toned show always put me off. Doesn't help that a earlier yet similar seen but we don't the full view of the stripped woman. Such a drastic tone shift.
I'm pretty sure they also told Shari's actress that they weren't going to include full frontal nudity in the final product, but went behind her back about it
Yeah, when watching it with someone for their first time, you just have to turn to them and say, "Trust me, this was a set up to a hilarious joke that paid off eight years later."
The thing I loved about O'Niell was that he had a core element of darkness to his character. His sarcasm, tendency to self-sacrifice, and his almost intentional ignorance of technobabble were all fed by it.
Yeap. He didn’t want to be there, he didn’t even want to live anymore, but he was, because it was his duty, and eventually because he valued his team, and his sarcasm and even playing dumb was his way of trying to enjoy the journey
Very true, which made it more disappointing that later seasons used his ignorance more as actual stupidity for comedic effect. I loved that in early seasons he clearly knew what he was talking about with regard to technobabble.
@@keeskoenen2956 true, it became Flanderized over the seasons, but the best writing knew how to employ it. Some of my favorite writing for his character was the interrogation of Jackson in season 10, where he's become an Prior. It was a beautiful showcase of O'Niell's stubborn cynicism being used.
Indeed. That dark side, his no-nonsense military guy/soldier side, was in charge in the film. In the TV series, it occasionally came out, and when it did, you can tell things really are serious.
@@keeskoenen2956 I do kinda get it though. Maybe it went too far, but RDR said himself he wanted the character to have a bit more comedic range than in the film. And when you're talking about a multi-season narrative rather than an hour-and-a-half or so film, you kinda need that extra scope for a character to change or grow or develop.
My wife is American and served in the army as a linguist, she loves SG1 and O'Neill and has told me many times how his attitude toward the more nerdy people in the armed forces is accurate. That many times she was subjected to the wit of a more front line soldier, not in a bad way, not in a put you down sort of way, but just that they were trained to think of things in one very focused field of vision. Also I think O'Neill worked so well because we all saw that underneath his flippant attitude was a very serious and emotional man which made the times that emotion broke through all the more impactful.
I'm going to partially agree with you about O'Neil. On one hand, as a former military guy, I do like his portrayal of a military guy. On the other, in the black hole episode you mentioned, their explaining to him about something about the black hole and he basically says, "Yeah, yeah the accretion disk." and when everyone looks surprised he knows what that is he says, "Did you think the telescope on my deck was just decoration?" He was smart, he just wasn't quite as smart as the two scientists on the team and he was more focused on practical matters than theoretics. In later episodes he just became Zoolander. "The files are in the computer?"
Jack O'Neill, the fighting man, had photos from outer space on the walls of his home. Daniel Jackson, the philosophizing social scientist, hung swords and other ancient weapons around in his place.
Yeah, they should have reLly used the downplay while being comedic later. He just didnt really want to hear ot all the time i guess,bit he issmsrt, and wise, and the trauma iscore of his cjaracter. I dont mind he getsmore lightharted for real later but he could be smart just, not want to be asked about it.
@@Cheesusful I'm out of touch when it comes to modern hardware, I stopped actively looking into it 20 years ago. So, when I want to buy a new computer, for example, I want some real current-tech expertise to configure my system. When I go shopping, I play extra dumb. It helps to divide the honest salesperson from the scumbags, because the scumbags immediately try to take advantage of your (pretended) complete unfamiliarity. Works with all subjects where you have enough knowledge to see through obvious BS, but not enough to feel confident to make a qualified decision without external expertise.
I loved SG-1, but the lore consistency and generally successful humor are what truly sets it apart from most Sci-Fi of its era and put it among my favourites.
Whenever I watch other shows in the midst of an SG-1 binge, I find myself expecting them to be written like Stargate eps and being frustrated when they aren’t. "Wait, so they just solved the problem in one episode? They just….succeeded and didn’t continue the conflict into the next episode so their failure and uncertainty can be used as the basis for character development, introducing new technologies/species/recurring characters, and expanding the lore??? Well that sucks. 😐"
One of my favorite shows. My whole family would sit in the living room and watch it when it was on showtime. Also thought Shanks and Spader were the same until I was a teenager.
My mother’s name is Janet Fraser….needless to say we were instant fans of Stargate SG1 😂 I was roughly 12 when SG1 first aired and it’s one of the first shows I can remember watching from beginning to end. I felt like a major part of my life had come to an end when the show finished its run. Still a great show to this day!
I grew up on OG Trek reruns in the 70’s, moved on to TNG and generally am a massive Trek fan. But, SG-1 will always hold a special place, if I ever need to escape reality a little bit and be guaranteed a feel good show, this is it.
The very fact the O’Neill has many lacking qualities was all the more interesting to me - he’s not smart, not the best fighter etc but through his past trauma has a deep sense of loyalty - which is what makes him a great leader.
Correction, he is smart, very smart. He's not a scientifically educated as Jackson and Carter, but in most other situations, he would be one of the smartest people in the room. You don't get to his position by not being smart. However, he recognizes that he (we) doesn't need all the details and background. I'll also add to your list of good quality. He's determined. He doesn't give up unless there really is no other option. Sometimes he still doesn't give up. He's a good guy.
14:20 Based on O'Neill having killed Ra, the most feared among the Goa'oulds at that time. I think Teal'C couldn't believe his luck (he already was a rebel at that point, a sleeper agent).
@@awesomedayz3465 the first primes knew they weren't gods, but thought rebellion was too risky, so better to save as many jaffa as they could by giving good counsel. Also without the Gou'ld their race would die out.
@37:00 Obviously you were going to discuss Hammond, who I think hands down is the greatest general in media. He's a smart, capable leader but most importantly he listens to his people. He SUPPORTS them rather than telling them how to do what they do. Truly one of the greatest characters in all of Sci-Fi IMHO.
He led among his troops, not removed from them. If you think about it, his office desk is just one floor away from the edge of the world and into the dangers of the galaxy.
The fact that folks weren’t and still aren’t, crying “Mary Sue” at Carter shows both that Tapping is an excellent actress and the writing and direction was stellar.
That hasmore to do with that ots a recent thing to outrage. Theones that usually are cowards in the way that they dont want to mess with preexisting fanbases already existing. See sarah connor, xena , people outragibg are kinda cowards to not want to fight established fanbases. ok i dont wownplay tapping, but old enoughsucessful franchisaes never ger accused
Mary Sues are the center of the attention whom the other characters depend on to do anything meaningful, plot-wise or not. Being perfect is just a side-effect of that stage-hogging presence.
Although it made them "samey", I really loved how O'Neill and Daniel rubbed off of each other to the point they had acquired parts of each other's personality. Daniel became a little more jaded and sarcastic but O'Neill comparatively did gain a better appreciation for other points of view and lost some of his military edge. Also how Teal'c as time went on losing his "alienness" as he spent more time on Earth was great.
I love that the entire SG-TV series is a direct continuation of the movie. The movie fascinated me, and the TV show explored what these characters could, and would be. Brilliant!
while a lot of what you say about O'Neil is true, I find it refreshing for a character who for all that was happening was a rock, an absolute constant you could always depend on to both do the right thing and quib about it. In my opinion it is also implied that hes light-harted attitude is largely an attempt to conceal his trauma and not let it bring down morale of his team.
One of the more fun or silly or minor or whatever things I appreciate more and more about Stargate SG1 is frankly, just how stunning, like almost unnaturally handsome and beautiful Michael Shanks is. There's a few seasons there where i don't know, his haircut, his face, I don't know. But by god, one of the best looking men I've ever seen hahaha I laugh because I don't really understand it, but I'm very serious. Honestly, that man should have been painted and carved into marble or something for appreciation by following generations lol
The 1990s was the golden era for TV shows. SO many great and fun shows came out then. We were swimming in amazing stuff to watch. When networks took chances. Especially with sci fi and fantasy.
God yes. I've been waiting for you to tackle Stargate since the Babylon 5 series. SG-1 and Atlantis are masterpieces, to me. Right up there with TNG, DS9, Babylon 5, and the early chunk of the BSG reboot.
Such perfectly brilliant timing. I’ve just finished a binge watch of Stargate SG1 after not having seen a single episode in more than 12 years on the very day this drops. lol Well, almost. I’ve just watched Ark of Truth. I haven’t got to Continuum yet. Looking forward to this. I loved this show when I was growing up. From the age of 12 - 21 I think only missed 2 episodes on first broadcast. I was quite the fan. lol
I'm a fan of both shows but t o s had a much worse batting ratio. It had some really good shows but about a third of it shows were bad to very bad. I don't remember Stargate SG-1 ever making me cringe.
12:53 My wife and I went to BC Canada for our honeymoon. We both adored many different television shows that were produced in Vancouver. We would point out PX275 in Psych or the infamous Vancouver mansion 3689 Selkirk St, Vancouver, BC V6H 2Y9 that pops up in every show. Other great locations are the opera house in BSG was also a weak point between the two universes in Fringe. So many great shows are a product of BC Canada.
Personally I never got the feeling O’Neill looked down on Sam and Daniel because of them being nerds rather I just thought he got annoyed by them because of his inability to understand their technobabble
Warrick: "Here is the ship's operating manual. I had it translated for you." Jack: _(looking over Sam's shoulder)_ "That's not our language!" Sam: "It's-- mine. Sir."
This show, especially the 1-5 run, was integral to my childhood and helped me define what I want from my own writing. Specifically, the character chemistry. I have never seen another show before or after (barring Atlantis, they nailed the vibes better than most spin-offs) do character chemistry quite like Stargate SG-1, and it's wonderful. Obviously props go to the actors for bringing them to life, each with their own unique flair, but I think part of it is that each of the main four are characterized perfectly to synergize AND butt heads with the other three in pretty much equal measure. The entire show is just the main four foiling off of each other constantly, it's a difficult equilibrium to achieve, let alone maintain, but Stargate manages it beautifully. Not only that, but they manage to integrate new personalities into the dynamic without ruining it; regulars like Hammond or Frasier can slide in and out seamlessly, guests like Bra'tac or Jacob fit in well, and later on Mitchell and Vala make for (in my opinion at least) excellent replacements/additions to the crew while still maintaining that unique chemistry.
The thing that makes statgate SG-1 rise above many of its kind is that it never leaves the humanity of its characters behind. Most sci-fi forgets to show that its characters are fully fleshed out people with flaws that learn over time. Sci fi is at its best when it writes great characters. Star Trek Voyager could learn a thing or two.
The theme tune is awesome, a great mix of the original wonder-of-space-exploration opera movie score with martial band instruments to signify the military aspect of the show. I never saw these early series when they were first aired in the UK as they were on the relatively new Sky satellite broadcasting channel, only when they began to air on terrestrial TV (Channel 4 i believe) did i start to see from the later series and then went back and caught-up. Now watching the re-runs ironically on 'Sky Mix' digital TV channel.
Your perspective on O'Neill (two L's) is very interesting. I do agree that the character doesnt get a lot of character development compared to the rest, but thats because he's such a great character to begin with and you definitely notice something missing when he's not there in later seasons (Though i do think the show suffers when trying to force him into episodes in later seasons too). I definitely prefer O'Neill's character staying the same to the way that Jackson "evolved" into an action hero in later seasons as you mentioned One thing i definiately do agree with though is the weird pacing of certain storylines. Particularly in the case of Dr Jackson's wife, the way that storyline is wrapped up is very strange. I can only assume there are behind the scenes reasons that it went down that way (actor availability maybe, she also did have Shanks's baby during production). The Skara storyline was definitely due to the actor being unavailable.
I started watching SG1 before I saw the movie. I didn’t feel lost as I hadn’t seen the movie and I enjoyed the way it set up the characters and the story going forward. Once I saw the movie a lot of the things that the pilot referred to made more sense. I loved the series and how the movies relate to the series.
This series was the greatest thing on television through my teenage years. So many great moments. I´ll never forget the first time we get to see that asgaard mothership simply making the goauld dissapear I suppose by teleporting. But still it was my first holy shit moment. Also when they change time and all of the sudden there is trout in that small lake Jack is fishing in at his cabin fully aware of the fact there is no fish there. Such a funny moment.
SG1 taught me the dangers of challenging social norms, and why it may be worth it anyways. As a secular atheist kid growing up in Christian households this ment the world to me.
I am with you. I want a revival, though I am a little bit afraid, given the realities of the TV industry at the moment, that a revival will only entail six episodes every 18 months or so, And will delve into the grim dark a little too much. As far as I can tell, nothing is in the works. Brad Wright was contacted a few years ago about the possibility of doing a revival, and he submitted all of his plans and notes on what he’d like to do, which MGM seemed interested in at the time, But that died on the line over the course of the next two years, and at present, there does not appear to be any real discussion of a revival or a reboot going on at MGM.
i think there was a mention of 'every planet looks like a Canadian forest' in the show being explained by the fact that some alien seeded all the habitable planets in the galaxy with trees from Canada.
Only halfway thrugh the video & just having finished rewatching all of sg-1, sga & sgu a couple mos. ago. I now find myself irresistibly drawn towards another rewatch. A true testament to Rowan's ability as a content creator! Ty Rowan for always rekindling the fires of sci-fi fandom.
Much like DS9, I saw SG1 in a limited and fractured form on UK TV (channel 4 on Sunday afternoons in the early 2000s). It's really cool to see a video covering the more overarching plot.
The fan based Military history for O'Neil and his reason for not understanding the Science stuff Carter and Jackson love is to hide the fact he's hyper intelligent due to spending time under his cover identity as MacGyver. Something that the show did lean into in the two episodes I remember when his head was full of Ancient knowledge. Particularly the one in where he builds a Ring Transport to get to the Ancient Weapons Chair in antarctic.
I definitely disagree on your opinion of o'niell. His characterization as the humanistic POV juxtaposed with the alien teal'c and the star trek-ian sam and daniel is a perfect balance between the main 4
He is when used appropriately, but by series 5 he's become quite a tired repetitive joke, also likely because Daniel starts mimicking him so O'Neil becomes even more extremely sarcastic until it's immersion-breaking. But in the earlier series I agree, particularly in episodes like The Other Side, where he takes the plot more seriously.
This was very interesting to watch. I'm a huge SG-1 fan, but I actually started watching the show without realizing that there even was a movie, and to this day I kinda regard the movie as an afterthought. It's just not an important part of my relationship with the show. The movie-centric perspective on the shows early days is a new take for me.
I know a few people who love the shows but never saw the film. If anything I think it's better for them as the series outshine the movie by a factor of many lots.
Thank you! One of the best Sci-fi channels out there finally covers my favorite show! And done so just as tactfully and skillfully as the show was done. I wish humanity can return to creating more awesome shows like this in the future sometimes... instead of current year's corporate sewage. Respect to the (far and few between) exceptions.
This is purely my head cannon but the goa’uld are the bourgeoisie and the working class are their Jaffa, who also fight one another in their wars of conquest.
While I don't think the critique of Jack's character is COMPLETELY unfounded, I will say that I've always thought and felt that he was written as a man who is smart and has a good heart, but is so defensive from all of the things he's seen and done (even besides losing his child and feeling responsible and his life falling apart) that he only puts on the usually laid-back, stupid, brash persona. You see it in certain moments, like Cassie directly calling him out for playing dumb when he calls a knight a horse while playing chess with her, or any of the times he lets himself be vulnerable with his team. Which is impactful the rare times it does happen BECAUSE it's rare. It's jarring and powerful to see RDA being emotional and earnest because it exposes the true Jack, it confronts you with the fact that he's constantly repressing himself. I've always thought he was such a compelling character because of that, especially because we never really get to see him escape from it. He wants to maintain this persona forever until he retires and fucks off to the woods. Not to mention he ends up being best friends with Daniel and has the will-they-won't-they with Sam-it's not a jocks vs nerds thing, there's an admiration he doesn't know how to show. Also, strangely, I've never thought Sam's character was properly utilized or given enough umph. She seems so be very useful plot/dialogue wise, and I did really find her arc with her father compelling, but something about her character always felt really underwritten to me on the day to day. Amanda Tapping is just charming as hell (and adorable) so I think the shortcomings in her writing have been a little obfuscated. I love her, don't get me wrong, but I think that's why I've been dissatisfied with how she was written. ANYWAY, great videos so far, can't wait to watch the third part!
You posted this 23 hours ago, and it's already got 35k views. Rowan, you are the MAN! Absolutely love your content and have been wanting a Stargate series retrospective for a while now. Thanks, man!
I disagree with your take on O’Neill but you said yourself it was a controversial opinion. I do agree that they lean too heavily on his (seemingly feigned ) lack of understanding and specifically related to window of opportunity it always bothered me that they spent part of their loop learning to read and speak Ancient but never use that again. Both tealc and O’Neill should be able to read and understand ancient going forward but they defer to Daniel as if they never learned a word
Sam Carter change from obnoxious chip on the shoulder officer to a real person from s1 to s2 was the actress saying to the writers "nobody talks like this, please change my character" or something to that effect.
Great review and retrospective on this entertaining show....I also hope you do a review/retrospective on the spin-off series 'Stargate Atlantis' as well (because I really enjoyed that series too)...
Just brilliant Rowan, absolutely brilliant. What a Trojan amount of work to bring to your fans, thank you. “O’Neill stands off to the side, looking like he’s been waiting for a bus for too long”….great line.
Absolute favourite favourite show! I know it wasn't perfect, but it was so self-aware that the minor things made it all the more endearing. I truly feel it is the most underrated sci-fi show ever!!!
For me this show hit the ground running I loved the premiere and there are so many set pieces and world building in these early seasons Among my friend group this was running circles around Star Trek at the time, I felt I was too young to appreciate DS9 and Voyager was just not hitting and the CG was so impressive for television. The dynamic of leads was the glue that held it together ,great chemistry, any combination of them worked and it also felt like an inversion to Trek which felt refreshing at time
I loved all the earth episodes. A lot of people don’t but they keep forgetting like let’s say this was real I feel like this is exactly how it would go down.
Because she actually bothered to learn what it meant as unlike Star Trek most of the techno-babble was real physics and accurate scientific theories - albeit put in a fantasical setting.
Don’t feel bad! I didn’t realise at 1st either. Mind you I did I figured it out at about 13yrs old after a couple of episodes. HOWEVER! We are in good company. Apparently Christopher Judge himself didn’t realise right away either. He genuinely thought they had got the original actor from the movie at first. I think that’s a testament to the acting chops of Shanks.
@@anthonyhiggins7409 i think some of it comes from having seen the first few series of SG1 before I saw Stargate - I would have been between 7 and 11 at the time (my Dad is a big sci-fi person). Then going back as an adult and having the idea fixed in my head and not questioning it. I will also give the actor the credit he deserves 🙂
O’Niel portrays a more Everyman blue color or veteran archetype that is needed for a show trying to reach a wide audience. While hardcore sci-fi fans might be looking and appreciate complex characters. A more casual audience such as many of my friends and family enjoy watching O’Niel as a relatable average guy they could easily spot in the neighborhood.
My childhood favorite. I first watched Children of the Gods when I rented the DVD then it kicked off. I would spend my holiday job money buying the DVDs and had great joy receiving it on my mail.
14:40 - Jack simply wanted an alien friend and was open to Teal'c being a good dude anyone would do the same. He knew the importance of making allies and showing trust.
Coincidentally I just started rewatching the series a couple weeks ago, and have bingewatched myself up to the Wormhole X-Treme episode today, so this video was way more entertaining and engaging than it would have been for me otherwise. I haven’t watched it in several years, so I decided to rewatch everything, even the episodes I generally skip (some of which I haven’t seen in a decade) and am pleasantly surprised at how even the sub-par episodes generally introduce at least one element that will be touched on again later on in the series. One element of the show that is completely unique is that it is able to play off of (then)contemporary society and make use of our real world understanding of how the world works. For instance, I just watched the episode where Carter gets kidnapped by a dying tech billionaire that wants to use a Go’a’uld to heal himself. We are treated to an untrustworthy element of the US government, a rogue spy, government interference, and a genuinely harrowing rush to rescue Carter before she’s dissected. It struck me that there is no other space based planet of the week science-fiction TV show that could possibly have done a story like that. Star Trek could never have a corrupt and trenched agency Starfleet because it is utopian. Nor could there be government figures pulling strings for self-aggrandizing purposes because, again, the federation is utopian. Now it might be possible to do something like that in Star Trek but you would need an insane amount of set up and info dumps to explain how these agencies are not the norm, and the federation is still heaven, blah blah blah, blah blah. And it wouldn’t work. Stargate, on the other hand, can get away with this because it is set right here, right now, in something very close to the real world. Our government is not perfect and it is not 100% trustworthy, and stories about government agencies working across purposes with each other and doing occasional despicable. Things are in the newspaper all the time. The episode is able to leverage our view of the real world to make use of all of these factors without really having to explain them. After all this time, we still really don’t know how the Federation works, but we do know how early 21st century America works, and that just streamline the storytelling. I think it also helps that Stargate command is set within an actual real military. The SGC is fictional, but those establishing shots it always shows of Cheyenne mountain? Those are real. And there is a base built into that mountain, the SGC is just a fictional one underneath the real one. That’s cool, right? And the US has a huge military. It can be taken for granted than many of the people watching the show were either in the military, or had personal experience with it. The characters in Stargate never act exactly the correct way they would in the actual USAF, it is close enough and taken seriously enough that we do understand what they’re doing and why, and it is pretty consistent. As opposed to Starfleet, which is a sensibly a military organization, but which frequently appears to be less consistent and disciplined down the Boy Scouts. (Seriously: if you’re American, and you ever watched Star Trek with somebody who was in the service, particularly the Navy, you will have at least one memory of that person, throwing up their hands and frustration and saying, ‘what the hell are they doing? This makes no sense whatsoever!’ Because that’s just not the way anybody’s military does things. So Stargate is able to make use of an actual real organization that many in the audience would already be familiar with an understand, and maintain consistent uniforms And decorum. Hell, if you’re a big enough military geek (which I am not, but I come from an Air Force family) you can even learn a lot about the characters back stories simply by the service ribbons they are wearing on their uniforms. They actually mean stuff - what they’re trained for, what they’ve done, etc. Hammond wears pilot wings, and has a Vietnam service ribbon, ergo he was a fighter pilot in Vietnam. Jack wears master paratrooper wings, which means his specialty is paratroop/covert operations, and that he’s done well over 50 jumps on missions. Yeah, just can’t do that on Star Trek or Battlestar Galactica or whatever .
I love this revisit. I hopped into Stargate SG-1 by season 5. Always missed the showings as VOD really wasn’t a thing at the time but saw the commercials and was captivated by the premise of SciFi but in the present day. When it came to the ScuFi channel in the states it became so accessible to me and a generation of audiences.
I never watched this show on tv or syndication. A used media chain would always have the dvd boxes sets quite cheap, so i scooped the first season on a whim and then was hooked. Even got my dad into the show. Sold the dvds when Netflix first seemed like a golden future that would remove the need to own physical media - i wish i had understood licensing and it's implications and kept my copies! Can't wait for you to get to Atlantis. My wife laughed at me when i saw Khal Drago and exclaimed, "Hey, that's that surfer guy from Stargate!"
Hey Ronan,, how are you? Thanks again for another brilliant video. Your retrospectives are very good.. I enjoy watching them and might go back to watch SG1.
A great video! The subject matter sure doesn't hurt either; with the opening notes of SG1 automatically making me pay attention and harken back to a better time when I could sit in front of my parents telly watching Stargate without a worry in the world!
Ok, so I have no one to talk about stargate with so I went to this ...... I love how MacGyver has some episodes related to Egypt and artifacts. In season 5 , the last episode called Passages, they are talking about transporting an Egyptian artifact, they also mentioned, Osiris, and Anubis...... I'm waiting for Daniel Jackson to walk in the room and start giving his history lesson on the subject 😮😅
My family and I often make fun shanks acting because there are so many scenes where he just has the most blank unperturbed look as a reaction to something that happens.
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Learn to pronouce "Neumann" correctly.
@@videostoryanalyses8910 Which correctly lol? Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's wrong.
this is a weapon of terror ,THIS is a weapon of war
One of the moments when the 'US industrial military complex' shone through a bit less subtler than in most episodes. The staff weapon is elegant, can kill in one shot, and its crystal technology hardly ever depletes. Sure, there are instances where a gun can be more advantageous, but why SG command never replaced its weaponry for goa'uld weapons, at least partially, was in my humble opinion, a continuity error. Sure they can hardly mass produce or fix them, but they could pretty much scavenge them by the wagons on certain trips.
Dont tell me having a Zat in the back pocket to stun people or disintegrate anything and anyone wouldnt come in handy in just about any situation. Sure they used them sometimes, but not as much as they could have. Im pretty sure they retroactively regretted giving a stun gun a disintegrate function, so they shied away from it.
I suppose one could chalk it up to the Goa'uld-Asgard treaties which would prevent Earth being technologically too advanced, but even when those treaties became null and void it hardly happened. And by that point, Earth had spaceships, too.
Another matter was that guns could fight replicators, I suppose. Although why a Zet's third shot wouldnt disintegrate a replicator, is a mystery as well. Maybe we can technobabble it away with 'if the first two shots werent effective, a third wouldnt be either."
@@Grivehn Look, SG is hardly a realistic show, but if you want to look at it realistically, staff weapons are not much better than a bow and arrow. You can literally dodge their blast with normal human reaction speed. You can't dodge a bullet. Also, "human weapons" have all kinds of optics allowing them to be precise and deadly to short-medium-long ranges while staff weapons are just "hip-fired" so it would be a miracle if they hit anything that's not directly in front of them. Guns are just better.
Yup.
And multiple hits on that log just made it swing around. The P90 cut it in two.
Me an intellectual "well achtshually" *pushes glasses up nose "the jaffa could paint the target with a laser that imparts a charge to guide a plasma bolt at the target ignoring any slow evasive maneuvers" is what I wish they did, but yeah it's just another stick to beat slaves with, not a weapon of war.
Stargate ignores the idea of cultural colonialism and whether it's right for the U.S. to impose its beliefs on every one they meet. By contrast startrek has a discussion about why they should for moral reasons take part in cultural colonization for the good of the aliens they meet. Just because you can parachute in and upend leoples cultures doesn't mean that's the right thing to do, especially given all the times we've seen indigenous tribes get wiped out by more established cultures.
The show lasted so long that the "reproductive organs" line became a joke within the show itself before the end.
It was despised internally immediately. Amanda Tapping has given interviews where she mentions hating the line immediately, but that she didn't have the confidence in her position that early to tell her bosses that this was a bad line. As time went on, Tapping reportedly would actually push back at times.
Another thing from the pilot that the producers hated was that Showtime pressured them into including the gratuitous nudity scene where a woman is disrobed and implanted with a goa'uld.
@@brianmulholland2467 Now I love Tapping even more
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Yeah the visible stripping of Sha'rai not in such a usually light toned show always put me off. Doesn't help that a earlier yet similar seen but we don't the full view of the stripped woman. Such a drastic tone shift.
I'm pretty sure they also told Shari's actress that they weren't going to include full frontal nudity in the final product, but went behind her back about it
Yeah, when watching it with someone for their first time, you just have to turn to them and say, "Trust me, this was a set up to a hilarious joke that paid off eight years later."
The thing I loved about O'Niell was that he had a core element of darkness to his character. His sarcasm, tendency to self-sacrifice, and his almost intentional ignorance of technobabble were all fed by it.
Yeap. He didn’t want to be there, he didn’t even want to live anymore, but he was, because it was his duty, and eventually because he valued his team, and his sarcasm and even playing dumb was his way of trying to enjoy the journey
Very true, which made it more disappointing that later seasons used his ignorance more as actual stupidity for comedic effect. I loved that in early seasons he clearly knew what he was talking about with regard to technobabble.
@@keeskoenen2956 true, it became Flanderized over the seasons, but the best writing knew how to employ it. Some of my favorite writing for his character was the interrogation of Jackson in season 10, where he's become an Prior. It was a beautiful showcase of O'Niell's stubborn cynicism being used.
Indeed. That dark side, his no-nonsense military guy/soldier side, was in charge in the film. In the TV series, it occasionally came out, and when it did, you can tell things really are serious.
@@keeskoenen2956 I do kinda get it though. Maybe it went too far, but RDR said himself he wanted the character to have a bit more comedic range than in the film. And when you're talking about a multi-season narrative rather than an hour-and-a-half or so film, you kinda need that extra scope for a character to change or grow or develop.
My wife is American and served in the army as a linguist, she loves SG1 and O'Neill and has told me many times how his attitude toward the more nerdy people in the armed forces is accurate. That many times she was subjected to the wit of a more front line soldier, not in a bad way, not in a put you down sort of way, but just that they were trained to think of things in one very focused field of vision.
Also I think O'Neill worked so well because we all saw that underneath his flippant attitude was a very serious and emotional man which made the times that emotion broke through all the more impactful.
I'm going to partially agree with you about O'Neil. On one hand, as a former military guy, I do like his portrayal of a military guy. On the other, in the black hole episode you mentioned, their explaining to him about something about the black hole and he basically says, "Yeah, yeah the accretion disk." and when everyone looks surprised he knows what that is he says, "Did you think the telescope on my deck was just decoration?" He was smart, he just wasn't quite as smart as the two scientists on the team and he was more focused on practical matters than theoretics.
In later episodes he just became Zoolander. "The files are in the computer?"
Jack O'Neill, the fighting man, had photos from outer space on the walls of his home.
Daniel Jackson, the philosophizing social scientist, hung swords and other ancient weapons around in his place.
Yeah, they should have reLly used the downplay while being comedic later. He just didnt really want to hear ot all the time i guess,bit he issmsrt, and wise, and the trauma iscore of his cjaracter.
I dont mind he getsmore lightharted for real later but he could be smart just, not want to be asked about it.
But that's the thing, he deliberately acts dumb so people will underestimate him... He also doesn't have the world's greatest attention span...
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I'm out of touch when it comes to modern hardware, I stopped actively looking into it 20 years ago. So, when I want to buy a new computer, for example, I want some real current-tech expertise to configure my system.
When I go shopping, I play extra dumb. It helps to divide the honest salesperson from the scumbags, because the scumbags immediately try to take advantage of your (pretended) complete unfamiliarity.
Works with all subjects where you have enough knowledge to see through obvious BS, but not enough to feel confident to make a qualified decision without external expertise.
@@michaelguth4007 just build your own
I loved SG-1, but the lore consistency and generally successful humor are what truly sets it apart from most Sci-Fi of its era and put it among my favourites.
Upon recent rewatch, the writing became leaps and bounds better than comparable shows. Really compelling stuff
Whenever I watch other shows in the midst of an SG-1 binge, I find myself expecting them to be written like Stargate eps and being frustrated when they aren’t.
"Wait, so they just solved the problem in one episode? They just….succeeded and didn’t continue the conflict into the next episode so their failure and uncertainty can be used as the basis for character development, introducing new technologies/species/recurring characters, and expanding the lore??? Well that sucks. 😐"
Undomesticated Equines could not drag me away from your YT channel.
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One of my favorite shows. My whole family would sit in the living room and watch it when it was on showtime. Also thought Shanks and Spader were the same until I was a teenager.
My mother’s name is Janet Fraser….needless to say we were instant fans of Stargate SG1 😂
I was roughly 12 when SG1 first aired and it’s one of the first shows I can remember watching from beginning to end. I felt like a major part of my life had come to an end when the show finished its run. Still a great show to this day!
I am a simple man. If I see Stargate on YT, I click on it!
Thank You Rowan!
Hahaha this gave me a good laugh, I can see myself in this statement. SG1 is my favorite tv series of all time.
A little bit of trivia: General Hammond was Scully's father for exactly 1 episode where he immediately died.
And in "Twin Peaks" he was an alien-listening Air Force Major!
Well, he did one other episode as a kinda ghost when Scully was near death
Probably the most well written sci fi show I’ve ever seen and I’m a treker
then maybe give B5 or Cowboy Bebop (not the Netflix version) a watch ;)
Steins gate.
Ok honestly alot of anime are really good scifi.
Just have to say, Teryl Rothery is incredibly gorgeous and was always a favorite of mine on this show.
She is such a good actor and has great presence. She very quietly steels every scene she is in in Stargate.
I had the honor of being her security for three Stargate sci-fi conventions in the UK, she is a wonderfully warm and charming lady.
@@ukmediawarrior how very cool
As an anime geek, she has also played the 'english dub' version of several characters--she can play no-nonsense soldiers to japanese schoolgirls.
I grew up on OG Trek reruns in the 70’s, moved on to TNG and generally am a massive Trek fan. But, SG-1 will always hold a special place, if I ever need to escape reality a little bit and be guaranteed a feel good show, this is it.
The very fact the O’Neill has many lacking qualities was all the more interesting to me - he’s not smart, not the best fighter etc but through his past trauma has a deep sense of loyalty - which is what makes him a great leader.
Correction, he is smart, very smart. He's not a scientifically educated as Jackson and Carter, but in most other situations, he would be one of the smartest people in the room. You don't get to his position by not being smart. However, he recognizes that he (we) doesn't need all the details and background.
I'll also add to your list of good quality. He's determined. He doesn't give up unless there really is no other option. Sometimes he still doesn't give up.
He's a good guy.
14:20 Based on O'Neill having killed Ra, the most feared among the Goa'oulds at that time. I think Teal'C couldn't believe his luck (he already was a rebel at that point, a sleeper agent).
Yeah. His mentor was Master Bra'tac. The seeds of doubt and rebellion were already in his head.
@@awesomedayz3465 the first primes knew they weren't gods, but thought rebellion was too risky, so better to save as many jaffa as they could by giving good counsel. Also without the Gou'ld their race would die out.
I think if they had just one scene with Tealc going 'omg! HE killed Ra!?' would have gone a long way.
@37:00 Obviously you were going to discuss Hammond, who I think hands down is the greatest general in media. He's a smart, capable leader but most importantly he listens to his people. He SUPPORTS them rather than telling them how to do what they do. Truly one of the greatest characters in all of Sci-Fi IMHO.
He led among his troops, not removed from them. If you think about it, his office desk is just one floor away from the edge of the world and into the dangers of the galaxy.
Hammond always struck me as firm but fatherly and as inspiring as an historical general.
The fact that folks weren’t and still aren’t, crying “Mary Sue” at Carter shows both that Tapping is an excellent actress and the writing and direction was stellar.
That hasmore to do with that ots a recent thing to outrage. Theones that usually are cowards in the way that they dont want to mess with preexisting fanbases already existing.
See sarah connor, xena , people outragibg are kinda cowards to not want to fight established fanbases.
ok i dont wownplay tapping, but old enoughsucessful franchisaes never ger accused
Mary Sues are characters who have no weaknesses or faults. This is not true of Carter.
@@phenom568 What are Carter's weaknesses or faults?
Mary Sues are the center of the attention whom the other characters depend on to do anything meaningful, plot-wise or not. Being perfect is just a side-effect of that stage-hogging presence.
@@phenom568 she has a few weaknesses in relationships, but especially in that pilot movie she is darn near perfect
Although it made them "samey", I really loved how O'Neill and Daniel rubbed off of each other to the point they had acquired parts of each other's personality. Daniel became a little more jaded and sarcastic but O'Neill comparatively did gain a better appreciation for other points of view and lost some of his military edge.
Also how Teal'c as time went on losing his "alienness" as he spent more time on Earth was great.
I love that the entire SG-TV series is a direct continuation of the movie. The movie fascinated me, and the TV show explored what these characters could, and would be. Brilliant!
The series casting was a continuing string of excellent choices
One of my favourite shows of all times watch them all through regularly
while a lot of what you say about O'Neil is true, I find it refreshing for a character who for all that was happening was a rock, an absolute constant you could always depend on to both do the right thing and quib about it. In my opinion it is also implied that hes light-harted attitude is largely an attempt to conceal his trauma and not let it bring down morale of his team.
One of the more fun or silly or minor or whatever things I appreciate more and more about Stargate SG1 is frankly, just how stunning, like almost unnaturally handsome and beautiful Michael Shanks is. There's a few seasons there where i don't know, his haircut, his face, I don't know. But by god, one of the best looking men I've ever seen hahaha I laugh because I don't really understand it, but I'm very serious. Honestly, that man should have been painted and carved into marble or something for appreciation by following generations lol
The 1990s was the golden era for TV shows. SO many great and fun shows came out then. We were swimming in amazing stuff to watch. When networks took chances. Especially with sci fi and fantasy.
Best 70 mins I have wasted on UA-cam in a long time. Looking forward to Part 3.
If it was enjoyable. Was it truly a wasted 70 minutes?
Only on Earth. On Abbydos I think it was more like 33 minutes @@JobeStroud
Love this show. @ the moment though I'm watching 'Babylon 5' :D
The two greats of the genre
i watch both yearly.
God yes. I've been waiting for you to tackle Stargate since the Babylon 5 series. SG-1 and Atlantis are masterpieces, to me. Right up there with TNG, DS9, Babylon 5, and the early chunk of the BSG reboot.
Thanks Rowan. SG1 is one of my favorite shows ever
Such perfectly brilliant timing. I’ve just finished a binge watch of Stargate SG1 after not having seen a single episode in more than 12 years on the very day this drops. lol Well, almost. I’ve just watched Ark of Truth. I haven’t got to Continuum yet.
Looking forward to this.
I loved this show when I was growing up. From the age of 12 - 21 I think only missed 2 episodes on first broadcast. I was quite the fan. lol
Outside of TOS, SG1 is easily the best introduction to scifi tv and one of my favorite shows of all time
TOS was a campy piece of trash
I'm a fan of both shows but t o s had a much worse batting ratio. It had some really good shows but about a third of it shows were bad to very bad. I don't remember Stargate SG-1 ever making me cringe.
12:53 My wife and I went to BC Canada for our honeymoon. We both adored many different television shows that were produced in Vancouver. We would point out PX275 in Psych or the infamous Vancouver mansion 3689 Selkirk St, Vancouver, BC V6H 2Y9 that pops up in every show. Other great locations are the opera house in BSG was also a weak point between the two universes in Fringe. So many great shows are a product of BC Canada.
*stares at SG-1 boxset on my shelf* I should probably rewatch that, again. Great video Rowan.
VHS? 🙂
@@subraxas It's a bootleg one I got years ago. Got a really fancy case and then all the DVDs are just in slip-covers inside.
Personally I never got the feeling O’Neill looked down on Sam and Daniel because of them being nerds rather I just thought he got annoyed by them because of his inability to understand their technobabble
Warrick: "Here is the ship's operating manual. I had it translated for you."
Jack: _(looking over Sam's shoulder)_ "That's not our language!"
Sam: "It's-- mine. Sir."
This show, especially the 1-5 run, was integral to my childhood and helped me define what I want from my own writing. Specifically, the character chemistry. I have never seen another show before or after (barring Atlantis, they nailed the vibes better than most spin-offs) do character chemistry quite like Stargate SG-1, and it's wonderful. Obviously props go to the actors for bringing them to life, each with their own unique flair, but I think part of it is that each of the main four are characterized perfectly to synergize AND butt heads with the other three in pretty much equal measure. The entire show is just the main four foiling off of each other constantly, it's a difficult equilibrium to achieve, let alone maintain, but Stargate manages it beautifully. Not only that, but they manage to integrate new personalities into the dynamic without ruining it; regulars like Hammond or Frasier can slide in and out seamlessly, guests like Bra'tac or Jacob fit in well, and later on Mitchell and Vala make for (in my opinion at least) excellent replacements/additions to the crew while still maintaining that unique chemistry.
The thing that makes statgate SG-1 rise above many of its kind is that it never leaves the humanity of its characters behind. Most sci-fi forgets to show that its characters are fully fleshed out people with flaws that learn over time. Sci fi is at its best when it writes great characters. Star Trek Voyager could learn a thing or two.
God I love and miss this show so much! They don’t make weekly episodic sci-fi like they used to 😭
Did you watch all 3 shows?
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I did , over and over ...
@@krixpop okay how about dark matter?
@@ANTIStraussian Dark Matter was decent but Killjoys was more fun.
@@agilemind6241 the expanse, Counterpart, Colony?
Such a good show.
This was an excellent look back, i even teared up a bit at Daniel ascending. Looking forward to the next part.
The theme tune is awesome, a great mix of the original wonder-of-space-exploration opera movie score with martial band instruments to signify the military aspect of the show.
I never saw these early series when they were first aired in the UK as they were on the relatively new Sky satellite broadcasting channel, only when they began to air on terrestrial TV (Channel 4 i believe) did i start to see from the later series and then went back and caught-up. Now watching the re-runs ironically on 'Sky Mix' digital TV channel.
Your perspective on O'Neill (two L's) is very interesting. I do agree that the character doesnt get a lot of character development compared to the rest, but thats because he's such a great character to begin with and you definitely notice something missing when he's not there in later seasons (Though i do think the show suffers when trying to force him into episodes in later seasons too). I definitely prefer O'Neill's character staying the same to the way that Jackson "evolved" into an action hero in later seasons as you mentioned
One thing i definiately do agree with though is the weird pacing of certain storylines. Particularly in the case of Dr Jackson's wife, the way that storyline is wrapped up is very strange. I can only assume there are behind the scenes reasons that it went down that way (actor availability maybe, she also did have Shanks's baby during production). The Skara storyline was definitely due to the actor being unavailable.
I started watching SG1 before I saw the movie. I didn’t feel lost as I hadn’t seen the movie and I enjoyed the way it set up the characters and the story going forward. Once I saw the movie a lot of the things that the pilot referred to made more sense. I loved the series and how the movies relate to the series.
That Don Lafontaine ad for the premiere episode really got me 🥺❤️
Just finished watching season 5... Perfect timing, Rowan!
I’ve just finished season 10 and Ark of Truth. Feels very serendipitous.
Stargate is the OG of science fiction!
I was just watching The Tomb episode, and here I find Rowan has a new video!
I frakin; love this series to death.
This series was the greatest thing on television through my teenage years. So many great moments. I´ll never forget the first time we get to see that asgaard mothership simply making the goauld dissapear I suppose by teleporting. But still it was my first holy shit moment. Also when they change time and all of the sudden there is trout in that small lake Jack is fishing in at his cabin fully aware of the fact there is no fish there. Such a funny moment.
SG1 taught me the dangers of challenging social norms, and why it may be worth it anyways. As a secular atheist kid growing up in Christian households this ment the world to me.
I love this. I love this show just a bit less than Trek. I hope a decent revival is in the works. Not a reboot, but revival.
I'd be happy if they just gave SGU a finale.
I love SG1 a whole lot more than trek, it doesn't take itself seriously.
I like both but i grew up on stargate because it was one of the only series we had on dvd.
I am with you. I want a revival, though I am a little bit afraid, given the realities of the TV industry at the moment, that a revival will only entail six episodes every 18 months or so, And will delve into the grim dark a little too much.
As far as I can tell, nothing is in the works. Brad Wright was contacted a few years ago about the possibility of doing a revival, and he submitted all of his plans and notes on what he’d like to do, which MGM seemed interested in at the time, But that died on the line over the course of the next two years, and at present, there does not appear to be any real discussion of a revival or a reboot going on at MGM.
An old man oneil led one,? that has cameos. .
Also love it to indeed ig star trek hasmore meat to nerd into
i think there was a mention of 'every planet looks like a Canadian forest' in the show being explained by the fact that some alien seeded all the habitable planets in the galaxy with trees from Canada.
Only halfway thrugh the video & just having finished rewatching all of sg-1, sga & sgu a couple mos. ago. I now find myself irresistibly drawn towards another rewatch. A true testament to Rowan's ability as a content creator! Ty Rowan for always rekindling the fires of sci-fi fandom.
Much like DS9, I saw SG1 in a limited and fractured form on UK TV (channel 4 on Sunday afternoons in the early 2000s). It's really cool to see a video covering the more overarching plot.
The fan based Military history for O'Neil and his reason for not understanding the Science stuff Carter and Jackson love is to hide the fact he's hyper intelligent due to spending time under his cover identity as MacGyver.
Something that the show did lean into in the two episodes I remember when his head was full of Ancient knowledge.
Particularly the one in where he builds a Ring Transport to get to the Ancient Weapons Chair in antarctic.
I definitely disagree on your opinion of o'niell. His characterization as the humanistic POV juxtaposed with the alien teal'c and the star trek-ian sam and daniel is a perfect balance between the main 4
He is when used appropriately, but by series 5 he's become quite a tired repetitive joke, also likely because Daniel starts mimicking him so O'Neil becomes even more extremely sarcastic until it's immersion-breaking. But in the earlier series I agree, particularly in episodes like The Other Side, where he takes the plot more seriously.
This was very interesting to watch. I'm a huge SG-1 fan, but I actually started watching the show without realizing that there even was a movie, and to this day I kinda regard the movie as an afterthought. It's just not an important part of my relationship with the show. The movie-centric perspective on the shows early days is a new take for me.
I know a few people who love the shows but never saw the film. If anything I think it's better for them as the series outshine the movie by a factor of many lots.
Thank you! One of the best Sci-fi channels out there finally covers my favorite show! And done so just as tactfully and skillfully as the show was done. I wish humanity can return to creating more awesome shows like this in the future sometimes... instead of current year's corporate sewage. Respect to the (far and few between) exceptions.
This is purely my head cannon but the goa’uld are the bourgeoisie and the working class are their Jaffa, who also fight one another in their wars of conquest.
While I don't think the critique of Jack's character is COMPLETELY unfounded, I will say that I've always thought and felt that he was written as a man who is smart and has a good heart, but is so defensive from all of the things he's seen and done (even besides losing his child and feeling responsible and his life falling apart) that he only puts on the usually laid-back, stupid, brash persona. You see it in certain moments, like Cassie directly calling him out for playing dumb when he calls a knight a horse while playing chess with her, or any of the times he lets himself be vulnerable with his team. Which is impactful the rare times it does happen BECAUSE it's rare. It's jarring and powerful to see RDA being emotional and earnest because it exposes the true Jack, it confronts you with the fact that he's constantly repressing himself. I've always thought he was such a compelling character because of that, especially because we never really get to see him escape from it. He wants to maintain this persona forever until he retires and fucks off to the woods.
Not to mention he ends up being best friends with Daniel and has the will-they-won't-they with Sam-it's not a jocks vs nerds thing, there's an admiration he doesn't know how to show.
Also, strangely, I've never thought Sam's character was properly utilized or given enough umph. She seems so be very useful plot/dialogue wise, and I did really find her arc with her father compelling, but something about her character always felt really underwritten to me on the day to day. Amanda Tapping is just charming as hell (and adorable) so I think the shortcomings in her writing have been a little obfuscated. I love her, don't get me wrong, but I think that's why I've been dissatisfied with how she was written.
ANYWAY, great videos so far, can't wait to watch the third part!
You posted this 23 hours ago, and it's already got 35k views. Rowan, you are the MAN! Absolutely love your content and have been wanting a Stargate series retrospective for a while now. Thanks, man!
I disagree with your take on O’Neill but you said yourself it was a controversial opinion. I do agree that they lean too heavily on his (seemingly feigned ) lack of understanding and specifically related to window of opportunity it always bothered me that they spent part of their loop learning to read and speak Ancient but never use that again. Both tealc and O’Neill should be able to read and understand ancient going forward but they defer to Daniel as if they never learned a word
Great Video as always been a member for two and a half years.
Sam Carter change from obnoxious chip on the shoulder officer to a real person from s1 to s2 was the actress saying to the writers "nobody talks like this, please change my character" or something to that effect.
Love your channel ! Love your videos . I miss this show very much I’m glad it’s still on the brain for people .
YA I also thought that shanks was Spader as a kid too.
Great review and retrospective on this entertaining show....I also hope you do a review/retrospective on the spin-off series 'Stargate Atlantis' as well (because I really enjoyed that series too)...
Just brilliant Rowan, absolutely brilliant.
What a Trojan amount of work to bring to your fans, thank you.
“O’Neill stands off to the side, looking like he’s been waiting for a bus for too long”….great line.
The music was beautiful
Absolute favourite favourite show! I know it wasn't perfect, but it was so self-aware that the minor things made it all the more endearing. I truly feel it is the most underrated sci-fi show ever!!!
Great Retrospective, thank you for this one hour travel into the past. Amazing work, keep it on.
The effort you put into these videos really shines through, brilliant work.
Loved the movie since I was a kid, but the series is my favourite series of all time
Got the European dvd set of all the seasons. I love christoper judge!!!
favorite show as a teenager. just started watching it again at 38
For me this show hit the ground running I loved the premiere and there are so many set pieces and world building in these early seasons
Among my friend group this was running circles around Star Trek at the time, I felt I was too young to appreciate DS9 and Voyager was just not hitting and the CG was so impressive for television.
The dynamic of leads was the glue that held it together ,great chemistry, any combination of them worked and it also felt like an inversion to Trek which felt refreshing at time
I loved all the earth episodes. A lot of people don’t but they keep forgetting like let’s say this was real I feel like this is exactly how it would go down.
what an awesome video mate ,hope to see even more Stargate from you
Amanda Tapping delivers the best techno-babble in the biz
Because she actually bothered to learn what it meant as unlike Star Trek most of the techno-babble was real physics and accurate scientific theories - albeit put in a fantasical setting.
Only just finding out now (at 32) that Daniel is not played by the same actor in the film and series.
Don’t feel bad! I didn’t realise at 1st either. Mind you I did I figured it out at about 13yrs old after a couple of episodes.
HOWEVER!
We are in good company. Apparently Christopher Judge himself didn’t realise right away either. He genuinely thought they had got the original actor from the movie at first.
I think that’s a testament to the acting chops of Shanks.
@@anthonyhiggins7409 i think some of it comes from having seen the first few series of SG1 before I saw Stargate - I would have been between 7 and 11 at the time (my Dad is a big sci-fi person).
Then going back as an adult and having the idea fixed in my head and not questioning it.
I will also give the actor the credit he deserves 🙂
Absolutely amazing video and great information and insights!
O’Niel portrays a more Everyman blue color or veteran archetype that is needed for a show trying to reach a wide audience. While hardcore sci-fi fans might be looking and appreciate complex characters. A more casual audience such as many of my friends and family enjoy watching O’Niel as a relatable average guy they could easily spot in the neighborhood.
3:55 So did I, I only saw the movie once many years before the TV show.
My wife and I are watching SG-1 now. She has never seen it and I watched it when it was new. Such a fun series and great video about this first half
For me SG1 was my first Sci-fi show that I actually like. Me and my best friend love this show.
Love this show. Inwatchbit and Babylon 5 every couple of years
My childhood favorite. I first watched Children of the Gods when I rented the DVD then it kicked off. I would spend my holiday job money buying the DVDs and had great joy receiving it on my mail.
14:40 - Jack simply wanted an alien friend and was open to Teal'c being a good dude anyone would do the same. He knew the importance of making allies and showing trust.
Coincidentally I just started rewatching the series a couple weeks ago, and have bingewatched myself up to the Wormhole X-Treme episode today, so this video was way more entertaining and engaging than it would have been for me otherwise. I haven’t watched it in several years, so I decided to rewatch everything, even the episodes I generally skip (some of which I haven’t seen in a decade) and am pleasantly surprised at how even the sub-par episodes generally introduce at least one element that will be touched on again later on in the series.
One element of the show that is completely unique is that it is able to play off of (then)contemporary society and make use of our real world understanding of how the world works. For instance, I just watched the episode where Carter gets kidnapped by a dying tech billionaire that wants to use a Go’a’uld to heal himself. We are treated to an untrustworthy element of the US government, a rogue spy, government interference, and a genuinely harrowing rush to rescue Carter before she’s dissected.
It struck me that there is no other space based planet of the week science-fiction TV show that could possibly have done a story like that. Star Trek could never have a corrupt and trenched agency Starfleet because it is utopian. Nor could there be government figures pulling strings for self-aggrandizing purposes because, again, the federation is utopian. Now it might be possible to do something like that in Star Trek but you would need an insane amount of set up and info dumps to explain how these agencies are not the norm, and the federation is still heaven, blah blah blah, blah blah. And it wouldn’t work. Stargate, on the other hand, can get away with this because it is set right here, right now, in something very close to the real world. Our government is not perfect and it is not 100% trustworthy, and stories about government agencies working across purposes with each other and doing occasional despicable. Things are in the newspaper all the time. The episode is able to leverage our view of the real world to make use of all of these factors without really having to explain them.
After all this time, we still really don’t know how the Federation works, but we do know how early 21st century America works, and that just streamline the storytelling.
I think it also helps that Stargate command is set within an actual real military. The SGC is fictional, but those establishing shots it always shows of Cheyenne mountain? Those are real. And there is a base built into that mountain, the SGC is just a fictional one underneath the real one. That’s cool, right? And the US has a huge military. It can be taken for granted than many of the people watching the show were either in the military, or had personal experience with it. The characters in Stargate never act exactly the correct way they would in the actual USAF, it is close enough and taken seriously enough that we do understand what they’re doing and why, and it is pretty consistent. As opposed to Starfleet, which is a sensibly a military organization, but which frequently appears to be less consistent and disciplined down the Boy Scouts. (Seriously: if you’re American, and you ever watched Star Trek with somebody who was in the service, particularly the Navy, you will have at least one memory of that person, throwing up their hands and frustration and saying, ‘what the hell are they doing? This makes no sense whatsoever!’ Because that’s just not the way anybody’s military does things. So Stargate is able to make use of an actual real organization that many in the audience would already be familiar with an understand, and maintain consistent uniforms And decorum. Hell, if you’re a big enough military geek (which I am not, but I come from an Air Force family) you can even learn a lot about the characters back stories simply by the service ribbons they are wearing on their uniforms. They actually mean stuff - what they’re trained for, what they’ve done, etc. Hammond wears pilot wings, and has a Vietnam service ribbon, ergo he was a fighter pilot in Vietnam. Jack wears master paratrooper wings, which means his specialty is paratroop/covert operations, and that he’s done well over 50 jumps on missions.
Yeah, just can’t do that on Star Trek or Battlestar Galactica or whatever .
I love this revisit. I hopped into Stargate SG-1 by season 5. Always missed the showings as VOD really wasn’t a thing at the time but saw the commercials and was captivated by the premise of SciFi but in the present day. When it came to the ScuFi channel in the states it became so accessible to me and a generation of audiences.
“Your gods are fake, here’s machine guns” classic
I never watched this show on tv or syndication. A used media chain would always have the dvd boxes sets quite cheap, so i scooped the first season on a whim and then was hooked. Even got my dad into the show. Sold the dvds when Netflix first seemed like a golden future that would remove the need to own physical media - i wish i had understood licensing and it's implications and kept my copies!
Can't wait for you to get to Atlantis. My wife laughed at me when i saw Khal Drago and exclaimed, "Hey, that's that surfer guy from Stargate!"
Ok you convinced me to go for a rewatch
I was bored exactly this minute, what timing!
Hey Ronan,, how are you? Thanks again for another brilliant video. Your retrospectives are very good.. I enjoy watching them and might go back to watch SG1.
A great video! The subject matter sure doesn't hurt either; with the opening notes of SG1 automatically making me pay attention and harken back to a better time when I could sit in front of my parents telly watching Stargate without a worry in the world!
Ok, so I have no one to talk about stargate with so I went to this ...... I love how MacGyver has some episodes related to Egypt and artifacts. In season 5 , the last episode called Passages, they are talking about transporting an Egyptian artifact, they also mentioned, Osiris, and Anubis...... I'm waiting for Daniel Jackson to walk in the room and start giving his history lesson on the subject 😮😅
Never forget Hammond of Texas.
Impatiently waiting for the next video
My family and I often make fun shanks acting because there are so many scenes where he just has the most blank unperturbed look as a reaction to something that happens.