It is matter of time that China will able create all the supply chain of semiconductor equipment, from chemical to high tech equipment to make chips. China has more than 1.4 billion people, there are no shortage of talented people. As Pluto once said, " Necessity is the Mother of Invention. "
Its more important China have a good strategic plan that is executable like the Space technology development and roll out. Looks carefully into genuine chip investments, select only trusted & competent leaders who can deliver (not greedy entrepreneurs) than pour so much money that are wasted - wasted money, and worse still, wasted time & opportunity.
@@stevejones5593 It is an ironic that soccer game was invented in China as well , in case you don't know. Well, it is mater of time, the Chinese will come to realize that game was invented by their ancestor, then they will practice hard and eventually win the world cup.
@@stevejones5593 Hey, China may not be good in soccer, but they are good in the Olympics. They are one of the top medal count nations in both Winter and Summer Olympics.
No one can stop the US from destroying the economies of her allies. But soon the US may find themselves quite lonely on the world stage when all their allies have been weakened by them. 😂😂
"The countries are encouraged to go against China... but are not forced. They can make their own decision." - So why still telling them they MUST go against China again and again and again!?!
if i'm ASML, I will make another line of machines ridding as much US techs as possible... maybe they're not as advance but still can sell to other countries
*Actually asml...wants to project itself as a very influential player...and somehow they are...but...they are a sort of just "integrators" depending on machineries...and parts...chemicals products for high grade purpose mainly from Japan(without Japan they can achieve their goal...although they have tried...they are being sued by Japan for copy infringements)...and to some extent...Germany...France etc.*.
@seeyou. Give an example of China doing this? Also only one crying is the US... They whining and crying 24/7 about China, China, China😂😂.. Real loser behavior... Crying is what Americans do best... They cry about everything, real sensitive people, always hurt feelings.🤣
Spreading bs n propaganda Embarking on sanctions to slow your competitor Developing lab born virus n unleashing it in your competitor's land Using threats n slanderous acts Conducting aggressive acts of violent bahaviour etc etc etc.... All are not competing These are acts of war n bad behaviour....thats usa
Don't push their allies? I didn't realised only China is using semiconductor for some of their military purposes. How does US and western hegemony get their chips? They have little dwarves working with minimal wages in some caves manufacturing those military chips? Why is CNA choosing their words so carefully to avoid making US sanctions sound unreasonable? Why CNA is so invested in making US look good?
@@georgewong1837 *You don´t understand...Japan already developed substitutes for the most critical rare earth elements needed for the industry...and...they also found deposits of rare earth in Japan...enough to supply humanty for a thousand year...*
This is such short term thinking. The US will slow China's semiconductor advances for 10 years. And then what? Edit: The US will not slow advances but production, these US actions actually enhance China's semi-conductor advances
@@johnsoncao3114 as if china cares about world advancement. China only want to win. But fear not, interesting times ahead, popcorn time seeong how china challenge the whole world.
@Peak White Monkey They are getting on with it. And the last time i checked. for eg.... The Saudi trust China tech and is setting up a 5G network with Huawei
US: "We don't push our allies, we consult and let them make their own decision." Netherland: "Ok, we acknowledge your concern but we will continue our business with China." US: "We will disclose your external marital affair to your wife. We will freeze your accounts. We will make the lives of your friends and families very difficult.... blah blah blah." Netherland: "FINE! we won't sell it to China then." US: "We never push you, remember it is your own decision."
Hahaha I remember that the US threatened Italy that their NATO position will be reconsidered if Huawei doesn’t get banned. It’s all free will, no pressure
When China was behind on space tech US blocks their association .. when China is successful US offers China to join. China declines and offers the opportunity to many other countries. The same will happen to Chip leadership. Comment please.
@@umeshutan6959 NASA announced Jan. 12 it signed an agreement with the Japanese government governing Japan’s contributions to the Gateway. They include components for the European-led International Habitation, or I-Hab, module, such as its environmental control and life support system, batteries, thermal control and cameras. In addition to its I-Hab contributions, the Japanese space agency JAXA will provide batteries for the Habitation and Logistics Outpost (HALO) module being built by Northrop Grumman, which will launch with the Power and Propulsion Element as the first components of the Gateway in late 2023. JAXA will also investigate modifications to its next-generation HTV-X cargo resupply spacecraft to allow it to support the Gateway. “The capabilities provided by Japan are critical to enabling the interior environment of the Gateway allowing our crews to live and work for longer durations,” Dan Hartman, NASA Gateway program manager, said in an agency statement. “With the life support systems from Japan, longer duration missions for the Artemis crews can be accomplished with reduced demands on logistics resupply.” The Japanese contributions to the Gateway are in line with past discussions about its role in the lunar outpost. At an event a year ago, JAXA officials discussed providing components for HALO and contributing to a habitation module, as well as using HTV-X for cargo resupply. NASA and Japan signed a “Joint Exploration Declaration of Intent” in July 2020 that outlined Japanese roles in the overall Artemis program. *Anyway...the Japanese are capable of mining asteroids...and you people NOT...just to see how far behind you are...*
@@TheYah00netstar I suggest u look inwards at all the homeless people in all your decaying cities first. all the drugs, gangs etc..Dont worry about China.
@@umeshutan6959 : China was 2-3 generations behind the US in rocket tech. China certinaly couldn't send satellites or launch a manned mission to the space until Clinton and Gore gave away key space tech to China to improve diplomatic relation (and in the name of promoting science) in the late 1990's.
I suspect that China hasn’t been retaliating against these US measures because it doesn’t need to. US tech companies have lost a lot of value as they’re increasingly forced to give up the lucrative Chinese market. As Napoleon put it, never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake.
Actually,..it is more and more American allies paying lip service to Uncle Sam. The Americans fly in, the ally calls them Bro.. after the Americans fly out, when the Chinese fly in, the ally says... Ok, the trouble makers have leave, let us get down to serious business of making a better life for everyone.
Well, they just announced the roll out of their 5G phone using 10-12 nm chips, so I guess the e sanction worked for around 5 years before Huawei found domestic replacements.
@@peakwhitemonkey just look at what percentage of world wide 5G service is from Huawei… last time I checked it was around 70%. And the newest Huawei phone was offered pretty much everywhere other than US and UK
Question: does CNA has any correspondent in the Netherland and China to get first hand information? You know China Academy of Sciences has already developed an EUV machine ya? I mean someone should verify if it ia true rather than just regurgitating western view points. You should at least have a Chinese commentator with some detail from their perspective in this segment. CNA has an Asia in its name… please provide the Asian perspective. Thank you!
Wait 10 years, U can seen the results of "chips" war in slow motion transition to multi operating systems, chip equipments, server systems & cloud computer system etc.,
@@vitocorleone8323 王又曾 Mr Wang, charged with corruption and fled to US. 張憲義, Mr Chang fled to USA after cia convinced him not to help Taiwan with developing nuclear weapons. 彭文正， professor Peng fled to US cuz he insisted the current Taiwanese president’s degree was fraud and investigated on the issue but was ordered arrest by the govt. u can fool anyone else, but u can’t fool Taiwanese cuz I am one
US: I don’t want to friend China cos it’s better than me. Netherlands: Poor girl. US: I don’t care. U cannot friend China. Netherlands: But… US: No buts. I won’t friend you if you friend China. Netherlands: erm US: I will tell mummy what you did yesterday.
The Netherlands has to learn from their history thoroughly. The then 1940-1941 Dutch East Indies colonial government foolishly joint force with US and Britain to impose oil embargo on Imperial Japan. They could have willingly kowtow and kept supplying oil to them. At worst, Japan will just impose a puppet regime there rather than outright invade such a vast archipelago. Moral of the story: Be pragmatic dan don't pick the WRONG side.
we can see the future of chip even if this men can't see the future of chip,China will soon have their own chip manufacturing and the market and profit,so the question is how far is the US behind china in the future.
*Actually asml...wants to project itself as a very influential player...and somehow they are...but...they are a sort of just "integrators" depending on machineries...and products for high grade purpose mainly from Japan...and to some lower extent...Germany...France etc.*
Not really. They are the only ones to have mastered EUV lithography. No company in the micro chip supply chain is indispensable, with the exception of ASML.
@@Gamba_with_Cigarette The legal wrangling dates back to December 21, 2001, when Nikon and its U.S. subsidiary announced it has filed a compliant with the U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC) against ASML, claiming that ASML is infringing upon Nikon's lithography-tool patents. Nikon asked the ITC to investigate ASML's importation of lithography tools in the United States. Canon also sued ASML. The result was that ASML at the announced it would cut 1450 jobs or about 22% of its workforce in 2002.
ASML has 2nd largest research center in CT, US; light-source/laser research in San Diego and software R&D in SV. Their dependence on the US is much greater than most think .
West can make the very small semiconductor but it is hitech chips, the market is limited, the most of chips use is 14nm and 28nm, and guess how the US allies sell the chips?? China is big their market. I saw china is happy, because china does not need to force to buy chips from west allies, we saw many china chips companies gain a very big sales. The only USA wants to block the hitech chip to china because of military reason, not others.
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It is matter of time that China will able create all the supply chain of semiconductor equipment, from chemical to high tech equipment to make chips. China has more than 1.4 billion people, there are no shortage of talented people. As Pluto once said, " Necessity is the Mother of Invention. "
Its more important China have a good strategic plan that is executable like the Space technology development and roll out. Looks carefully into genuine chip investments, select only trusted & competent leaders who can deliver (not greedy entrepreneurs) than pour so much money that are wasted - wasted money, and worse still, wasted time & opportunity.
1.4 billion people, yet cannot find 11 people to compete in the world cup.
@@stevejones5593 It is an ironic that soccer game was invented in China as well , in case you don't know. Well, it is mater of time, the Chinese will come to realize that game was invented by their ancestor, then they will practice hard and eventually win the world cup.
@@stevejones5593 A country's achievement in soccer is the prime benchmark of how they will fare in semi conductor design and manufacturing, amirite?
@@stevejones5593 Hey, China may not be good in soccer, but they are good in the Olympics. They are one of the top medal count nations in both Winter and Summer Olympics.
“We don’t pressure our allies, we consult with them.” Lying to our face.
Americun Warmongers don't pressure but Warmonger's palming your balls tight.
8:00 "...the US does have means of putting pressure on other suppliers... "
White or black lady...........same lies and good at it too.
😂😂😂😆😆 her nose 👃👃 has lengthened....
No one can stop the US from destroying the economies of her allies. But soon the US may find themselves quite lonely on the world stage when all their allies have been weakened by them. 😂😂
"The countries are encouraged to go against China... but are not forced. They can make their own decision." - So why still telling them they MUST go against China again and again and again!?!
Partnering with US is deadly these days.
And China, you are doomed.
@@davidturnbull310 when you're death, who cares!!!
if i'm ASML, I will make another line of machines ridding as much US techs as possible... maybe they're not as advance but still can sell to other countries
No balls to confront Russia like a real man
Like a coward telling ukrainians to sacrifice themselves to protect usa's arrogance
With or against usa youu are bound to be damned... like both with usa ukraine n not with usa Russia
she means "we don't pressure our allies, but we command them"
If I’m not good enough, I’ll create obstacles for my main competitor. Such childish behavior would never work in the long run.
That's the AmeriCAC jungle law🇺🇸👎🏽
*Actually asml...wants to project itself as a very influential player...and somehow they are...but...they are a sort of just "integrators" depending on machineries...and parts...chemicals products for high grade purpose mainly from Japan(without Japan they can achieve their goal...although they have tried...they are being sued by Japan for copy infringements)...and to some extent...Germany...France etc.*.
@seeyou. Give an example of China doing this?
Also only one crying is the US...
They whining and crying 24/7 about China, China, China😂😂.. Real loser behavior...
Crying is what Americans do best... They cry about everything, real sensitive people, always hurt feelings.🤣
What would you expect from ungrateful people whose industrial revolution were all based on Chinese inventions 300 years ago
Spreading bs n propaganda
Embarking on sanctions to slow your competitor
Developing lab born virus n unleashing it in your competitor's land
Using threats n slanderous acts
Conducting aggressive acts of violent bahaviour etc etc etc....
All are not competing
These are acts of war n bad behaviour....thats usa
CNA =CNN
which is why.. CNA need to be blacklisted and sanctions by fellow Asian countries and non-western ones
A US mouth piece.
@@junksails814 They don't seem that biased to me? They just report news.
Don't push their allies? I didn't realised only China is using semiconductor for some of their military purposes. How does US and western hegemony get their chips? They have little dwarves working with minimal wages in some caves manufacturing those military chips? Why is CNA choosing their words so carefully to avoid making US sanctions sound unreasonable? Why CNA is so invested in making US look good?
*Mainly...from the great ally Japan...at least for the most reliable in house chips...in the world...*
CNA is pro US .
Tit for tat. Don't sell rare earth to America.
@@georgewong1837 *You don´t understand...Japan already developed substitutes for the most critical rare earth elements needed for the industry...and...they also found deposits of rare earth in Japan...enough to supply humanty for a thousand year...*
CNA is a lapdog of America and don't want to reveal the insecurity of America from Chinese advancement in semiconductor.
This is such short term thinking. The US will slow China's semiconductor advances for 10 years. And then what?
Edit: The US will not slow advances but production, these US actions actually enhance China's semi-conductor advances
China is capable of manufacturing 5nm chips with it's own and advancing towards. Huawei is developing EUVL. How is China 10 years behind?
@@kushagravlogs5627 "is developing " means "already developed "?
Actually it drag slow the world technology advance. The cost bears by all
@@johnsoncao3114 as if china cares about world advancement.
China only want to win.
But fear not, interesting times ahead, popcorn time seeong how china challenge the whole world.
@Peak White Monkey They are getting on with it. And the last time i checked. for eg.... The Saudi trust China tech and is setting up a 5G network with Huawei
Did that spokeswoman just said "we don't push our allies and partners"? when they were doing exactly just that!
Who can trust what us is saying 🤣🤣 ?
Some saying: US superiority complex psychi must end????????????
US: "We don't push our allies, we consult and let them make their own decision."
Netherland: "Ok, we acknowledge your concern but we will continue our business with China."
US: "We will disclose your external marital affair to your wife. We will freeze your accounts. We will make the lives of your friends and families very difficult.... blah blah blah."
Netherland: "FINE! we won't sell it to China then."
US: "We never push you, remember it is your own decision."
Hahaha I remember that the US threatened Italy that their NATO position will be reconsidered if Huawei doesn’t get banned.
It’s all free will, no pressure
Americun Warmongers don't pressure but will cut your balls off if lapdog don't get behind Americun Warmonger's arss.
@Gerrit Harteveld yes China have lots of fluffy clouds ⛅
this is so English but many will not catch it. Roti prata talking :-)
Did Netherlands continue business with China?
When China was behind on space tech US blocks their association .. when China is successful US offers China to join. China declines and offers the opportunity to many other countries.
The same will happen to Chip leadership.
Comment please.
*Japan is away ahead its time technologically speaking...so you will never have a chance...*
@@TheYah00netstar Japan have a space station?
@@umeshutan6959 NASA announced Jan. 12 it signed an agreement with the Japanese government governing Japan’s contributions to the Gateway. They include components for the European-led International Habitation, or I-Hab, module, such as its environmental control and life support system, batteries, thermal control and cameras.
In addition to its I-Hab contributions, the Japanese space agency JAXA will provide batteries for the Habitation and Logistics Outpost (HALO) module being built by Northrop Grumman, which will launch with the Power and Propulsion Element as the first components of the Gateway in late 2023. JAXA will also investigate modifications to its next-generation HTV-X cargo resupply spacecraft to allow it to support the Gateway.
“The capabilities provided by Japan are critical to enabling the interior environment of the Gateway allowing our crews to live and work for longer durations,” Dan Hartman, NASA Gateway program manager, said in an agency statement. “With the life support systems from Japan, longer duration missions for the Artemis crews can be accomplished with reduced demands on logistics resupply.”
The Japanese contributions to the Gateway are in line with past discussions about its role in the lunar outpost. At an event a year ago, JAXA officials discussed providing components for HALO and contributing to a habitation module, as well as using HTV-X for cargo resupply. NASA and Japan signed a “Joint Exploration Declaration of Intent” in July 2020 that outlined Japanese roles in the overall Artemis program.
*Anyway...the Japanese are capable of mining asteroids...and you people NOT...just to see how far behind you are...*
@@TheYah00netstar I suggest u look inwards at all the homeless people in all your decaying cities first. all the drugs, gangs etc..Dont worry about China.
@@umeshutan6959 : China was 2-3 generations behind the US in rocket tech. China certinaly couldn't send satellites or launch a manned mission to the space until Clinton and Gore gave away key space tech to China to improve diplomatic relation (and in the name of promoting science) in the late 1990's.
I suspect that China hasn’t been retaliating against these US measures because it doesn’t need to. US tech companies have lost a lot of value as they’re increasingly forced to give up the lucrative Chinese market. As Napoleon put it, never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake.
Talking about security concerns is pure hypocrisy. Snowmen, Former chancellor of Germany, Merkel ring a bell?
All I can see is Americas allies are getting lesser and lesser......
Actually,..it is more and more American allies paying lip service to Uncle Sam. The Americans fly in, the ally calls them Bro.. after the Americans fly out, when the Chinese fly in, the ally says... Ok, the trouble makers have leave, let us get down to serious business of making a better life for everyone.
It's the west against the rest! The west is, at best, 2 dozen countries out of 200.
Does sanction on HuaWei worked?
now making phones and 5G gears are only a part of Huawei's business....
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@Peak White Monkey Are you joking?
Well, they just announced the roll out of their 5G phone using 10-12 nm chips, so I guess the e sanction worked for around 5 years before Huawei found domestic replacements.
@@peakwhitemonkey just look at what percentage of world wide 5G service is from Huawei… last time I checked it was around 70%. And the newest Huawei phone was offered pretty much everywhere other than US and UK
Question: does CNA has any correspondent in the Netherland and China to get first hand information? You know China Academy of Sciences has already developed an EUV machine ya? I mean someone should verify if it ia true rather than just regurgitating western view points. You should at least have a Chinese commentator with some detail from their perspective in this segment. CNA has an Asia in its name… please provide the Asian perspective. Thank you!
Wait 10 years, U can seen the results of "chips" war in slow motion transition to multi operating systems, chip equipments, server systems & cloud computer system etc.,
The Netherlands is underwater. That's where it is standing.
literally.
lmao "we dont push any of our allies," who u trynna fool?
China has the most Asylum seekers in America each year more than the next 10 Nations claiming Asylum combined and Taiwan has none.
@@vitocorleone8323 王又曾 Mr Wang, charged with corruption and fled to US. 張憲義, Mr Chang fled to USA after cia convinced him not to help Taiwan with developing nuclear weapons. 彭文正， professor Peng fled to US cuz he insisted the current Taiwanese president’s degree was fraud and investigated on the issue but was ordered arrest by the govt. u can fool anyone else, but u can’t fool Taiwanese cuz I am one
Kapitalis tidak di ajarkan untuk bersaing, mereka di ajarkan bagaimana mematikan lawan secepat mungkin, tanpa memikirkan akibatnya
Now countries have to choose between survival, or continue play along decoupling of globalisation.
consult, did anyone asking for consultation?
US: I don’t want to friend China cos it’s better than me.
Netherlands: Poor girl.
US: I don’t care. U cannot friend China.
Netherlands: But…
US: No buts. I won’t friend you if you friend China.
Netherlands: erm
US: I will tell mummy what you did yesterday.
China better than the United States? Nice joke bro.
How UN can tolerate such a hememony ?
The Netherlands stands where all US vassals HAVE to stand
The Netherlands has to learn from their history thoroughly. The then 1940-1941 Dutch East Indies colonial government foolishly joint force with US and Britain to impose oil embargo on Imperial Japan. They could have willingly kowtow and kept supplying oil to them. At worst, Japan will just impose a puppet regime there rather than outright invade such a vast archipelago.
Moral of the story: Be pragmatic dan don't pick the WRONG side.
So, Dutch East Indies should supply oil to Imperial Japan in 1941-42?
@@老牛吃嫩草-r9y yeah, just like what the French colonial government did in Indochina, i.e: collaborate with the Japanese.
Dutch are not pragmatic? Funny
@@VDMOOLN Of course, they are :).
The world will adapt. Global companies will think twice about including US tech in their products. This is bad for the US.
we can see the future of chip even if this men can't see the future of chip,China will soon have their own chip manufacturing and the market and profit,so the question is how far is the US behind china in the future.
自强不息 the Chinese civilization ongoing philosophy of life, so thanks to the the West jealousy.
Netherlands make more profits 💵💰
*Actually asml...wants to project itself as a very influential player...and somehow they are...but...they are a sort of just "integrators" depending on machineries...and products for high grade purpose mainly from Japan...and to some lower extent...Germany...France etc.*
Not really. They are the only ones to have mastered EUV lithography. No company in the micro chip supply chain is indispensable, with the exception of ASML.
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@@Gamba_with_Cigarette The legal wrangling dates back to December 21, 2001, when Nikon and its U.S. subsidiary announced it has filed a compliant with the U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC) against ASML, claiming that ASML is infringing upon Nikon's lithography-tool patents. Nikon asked the ITC to investigate ASML's importation of lithography tools in the United States.
Canon also sued ASML.
The result was that ASML at the announced it would cut 1450 jobs or about 22% of its workforce in 2002.
ASML has 2nd largest research center in CT, US; light-source/laser research in San Diego and software R&D in SV. Their dependence on the US is much greater than most think .
@@TheYah00netstar : ASML's 2nd largest R&D center is also in Japan? ASML is opening labs and offices everywhere -- even in China and South Korea.
West can make the very small semiconductor but it is hitech chips, the market is limited, the most of chips use is 14nm and 28nm, and guess how the US allies sell the chips?? China is big their market.
I saw china is happy, because china does not need to force to buy chips from west allies, we saw many china chips companies gain a very big sales.
The only USA wants to block the hitech chip to china because of military reason, not others.
Where else can Amsterdam stand other than toe in line with the Master USA?
We really don’t need more CNN. 🤬🤬🤬
Free market US!!!
Netherlands hotbed of Chinese cover companies
japan will retake the kurils sakhalin and vladivostok south korea will take north koea.
japan will retake the kurils sakhalin and vladivok osuthk oreaiwll tkaneo tk korea,
The real question is: where will Singapore stand? Between plaque and cholera, the choice is difficult.
Singapore will be an American stooge
In the middle, or away, not our daiji to get involved
Holland bowing down to its owner US. What a US slave
Equipment is just but a part amid an important part. China's chip manufacturing problem is more then just this
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What other problems? Or are you trying to sound smart lol
@@davidadebanjo1277 Bro thats how they all talk it' s weird...
🦜💌
About China's money don't worry the world are investing greatly into China... lolzzz
If they want to joint the gang of murderers in Beijing, let them have it. Want to help the murderers in Beijing ?
So much falsehood in a single sentence