How to service a Grant oil fired boiler
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Today Rob shows you how to carry out an annual service on a Grant oil fired boiler. Unfortunately, the clips of Rob checking the oil tank filter, repairing the condense pipe and how to use the analyser, were filmed in the wrong format, so we could not include them in the video!!
WHAT WAS THAT! In the past 5 services ive never, EVER seen an engineer do anything as extensive as this. Comes along. Pops a new nozzle on, checks for condensate, checks with a digital efficiency meter... Done. Takes no time at all. When our RD3 packed in, I managed to get it going again using a bit of mechanical common sense. This was a superb video. A real eye opener.
Thank you so much for the lovely comment. We are glad you enjoyed it, Have a great weekend. Rob
Just done my 1st 2 oil boiler services as a registered engineer and customer said the same " the last guy never stripped the boiler down"
The 1st Took me 4 hours! The baffles were scaled and stuck and needed a angle grinder with a wire wheel to clean them.
It’s so nice to see someone who takes pride in their work, and a true craftsman. You sir are a dying breed.
@@trone32 Thank you for the lovely comment.Have a great weekend.
so what's the biggest difference between this heater and the ones in Canada/USA? is the service much different or practically the same? I think I remember a lot of people having a becket burner
Thanks for the comment . I have no idea to be honest. We have not branched out to canada yet . Have a great weekend.
Great video and great to see someone taking pride in their work , by doing a thorough detailed job, no short cuts. Class.
Thanks for the lovely comment.😀
Hi, great video just question about the lowest baffle inserts that drop down into the boiler. There is a chamfer cut on these baffles do they go to the front or rear of the boiler? Thanks H
Hi. On this comment the small chambre goes at the back and the bigger one at the front. Thanks Rob
Where do you get your 20mm fibre glass rope from ?
Hi. We get it from Abgo Spares. Thanks for the comment!
Brilliant video. Subbed 👍 Any idea what size brush for cleaning the turbulator holes on Grant Vortex.?
Also toying with the idea of getting qualified, any recommendations of what quals to do first. ?
I'm qualified in electronics, but am very interested in this.
Cheers
Hi and thanks for the great comment and sub!. The brush is part of a brush set from Regin. I will get the part number and let you know. Also do your basic Oftec 50 then your 101,105 and 600 and your good to go. I recommend you go to EOGB near St Neots in Cambridgeshire. Have a good week. Rob
@@BartonOilBurnerServices Cheers for the info. That's great as I was looking at the courses you mentioned, so I was on the right track. I will be enquiring with EOGB .
Anybody who has their boiler serviced by you is a lucky customer, quality tradesmen are few n far between nowadays.
That's one of the reasons I'm looking at the course, fed up of paying top price for a guy to come and vac out the boiler, change the nozzle, do gas analysis n disappear into the sunset 30 minutes later with his pocket full of my hard earned cash 😂.
I've never seen one strip it like you.
I know I'm more than competent enough to do it.
So watch this space haha.
Thanks again for the info, much appreciated.
@@colinlewis4671 Thanks Colin. You will love the world of oil. Have a good week. Rob
I have this very same boiler and set up its outside in my back garden.... Since last night I've noticed a smell of kerosene in my home?? Any ideas why?? Does kerosene travel through the 2 pipes that enter my home from the boiler through the wall?? Or is that just water any help I would really appreciate it thank you
Hi. You will smell kerosene anywhere even if it is a tiny drop . Also double check the boiler emissions are ok ie is the boiler smoking this will also smell in the house! Hope this helps
Great to see someone taking their time to do a proper job, from a fellow oil technician
Thanks, your comment is much appreciated
Where you get the grey trays from for your oil burner? Thank you
@@matthewtrueblood408 They were from Screwfix
But you have to pay a lot for it for the amount of time it takes .
As a fellow oil technician, it's nice to see someone demonstrating competent service procedures on SM. Well done, keep up the good work.
Sam
Thanks for the comment, much appreciated
Great video. The level of detail you went into was perfect, thanks
Thank you so much for the comments🙂
Great tutorial. So many great tips.Never thought to rotate oil pump shaft 50 times but does make sense. Similarly would not have checked solenoid coil casing for cracks, will now. How long would take to do a full in depth Service ? Thank you so much.
Thanks for the comment, and great to hear you have picked up some tips. A full service takes on average 1.5 hours but if really sooty then 2 hours plus.
Wow finally an engineer whos taken the time out to explain an do the job properly, am thinking of getting my qualifications thanks for the video ive subscribed
Thanks for the lovely comment. I think you should just go for it!
Excellent VIDEO!! A real Professional and Top Class explanation of a servicing.
Thank you for the Comment. Lovely to here!
why the burner works ok outside and after installing it in the boiler it works and turns off. The boiler and chimney is cleaned too. It works perfectly outside. It is a new model, it is 4 years old.Thx
Hi.Its not reading the light correctly. On that model the nozzle needs to be correct and the flame distance is to be exact also then all should be ok. If not i would suggest a new photocell. Its hard unless i look really. Have a good weekend.
Best video I've ever seen on a Grant Boiler!! Brilliant!! ..... I wish you had serviced mine as I've just paid out a monkey and this guy never did half of what you did on this video! .... Tell me something, when you jetted water into the holes, where does all the water go? My boiler is in doors not out doors. Also at the moment our heating is working great but the water is playing fun and games, one minute it's hot then goes cold, ... Lights up on the boiler as normal, only other issue was the ''overheat'' light came on. From what I've read it's a blockage, is that right? What would you recommend for the blockage as I'm now on a budget after paying out a monkey and it's still not right. Thanks, and thanks for the video.
Thanks for the amazing comment!!. When you wash the boiler out it goes through the condense and down the drain. As for the hot water, The heat exchanger has most likely scaled up. They dont usually unblock so you end up changing them. Thats the most common cause. Hope this helps.
Fantastic video, a total masterclass in servicing. I thought I was thorough but you’re on a different level entirely. So much to learn still. Loved the tips on not overtightening main door and smelling the coil for oil etc. What did you say you used the clean the springs was it sugar soap I just usually wash them in hot water with wire brush. Absolutely brilliant keep the videos coming. Any chance you could do a video on a firebird service as we’ve a lot of them over here.
Thanks for the fantastic comment and yes suger soap and a bit of fairy liquid! We dont have that many firebirds here but as soon as i get one i will do a service video on it for you. Have a great week. Rob
Nice work as always mate.
Stuart
Lincs Boiler Services
Thanks mate
As a sometimes problematic Grant External Boiler owner this is priceless stuff 👌🏻 Thanks for sharing your knowledge and skill 🍺🏴
Thanks for the comment and you are most welcome!
I know how you feel! Almost every year something fails.. latest was the Reillo RDB capacitor..
Just wondering what causes excessive noise from an oil burner. My parents have an oil fired range cooker which sounds like an old tractor.
Hi. Thanks for the comment. Normally the bearings have failed or it is not set up correctly. Hope this helps.
i assume service and materials £150. Vortex takes me 60 to 90 minutes as i do it correctly though very different from your self. In my time and even my fathers time before me i have never came accross an oil tech that would even consider spending anymore than 20 to 40 minutes on a service.Very refreshing to see your approach.
Thanks for the lovely comment. Glad you are doing it the right way by the sounds of it. Not far out on the price depending if flex oil lines are needed etc. Have a good one.
Interesting how it should be done. I am wondering how my grant currently has clean , cold water, leaking and the heat exchanger has megatons of soaking soot and or water on each baffle with some of them corroded, pitted and a couple in two halves. Every year someone turns up and brushes and vacuums, so what's gone wrong?
Hi. Thanks for the comment. Its a job to tell with out pictures or looking but sounds like you have a few issues there. I would get your local Oftec engineer to look at it.
Hi thanks for sharing your knowledge with us ,ive a grant boiler external and its not firing up ,i had it serviced 2 years back but i dont think the guy knew grant boilers well. He went thru everything putting a new motor on plus pipes cleaned baffles but still had problems firing up from in the house you had to do it manually turned out to be the capacitor which was the cheapest bit in the end he shud of started there logically ,anyway it started doing it again so im gonna change it ,just needed to see what you were doing ,mines not exactly like that i think the capacitor is outside the boiler mechanism in the wiring loom somewhere ,so will check it out this week and just replace .i think that will do it fingers crossed .ive liked and subd so your one more up now . Ant from Wales tho im a Yorkshire man lol ,
Thanks for this. i am glad you liked it , Good luck with your boiler!
Do you ever get told you look like Gregg Davis
🤣🤣 No but i have now 🤣🤣 thanks for the comment!
Brilliant video! If my RDB burner doesn't attempt to fire at all (no noise what so ever) when the timer is on, what could that be? If i press the reset button it tries to fire but stops though 😢
Hi. Does it hum at you when you press the reset or does the fan go then you here a buzz then it stops? Thanks Rob
After 30 years of doing oil service, cast iron is the only way to go.
I would never service one of these tanks. It looks like a nightmare on steroids. Im all good sticking with my American trash.
Thanks for the comment 😄
Fab video! Really interesting.....i stumbled onto your channel entirely by chance but have subscribed. Enjoying the content 👍.
Thank you for your comment, and we're pleased you enjoyed the video. Hopefully we will have lots more interesting content to come 😃
I thought the test point are on the cleaning door on grant because of to much moisture getting into the analyser and do you not do a smoke test before using analyser.
Hi, thanks for your comment. A smoke test is done pre-condense, on the door, or the paper would get wet, and a check is also done using the analyser pre-condense to get a reading, and then post condense. However, the exit after the condense is the most accurate point. Make sure the analyser is higher than the probe, and flick water out of probe line afterwards. You only get a true reading efficiently after the condense as the temperature is lower. Not all condense boilers have a test port in the door. We didn't show everything in the video, and other stuff is also missing, hence why we say to get your boiler serviced by an OFTEC registered engineer. There are some things we have to keep secret 🤣Well done though for also doing this, it's good to hear you're on it also 👍
Very informative, I always wondered why my engineer has the hoover on for so long. At least now I know he's doing it properly.
Thanks for the comment and yes it sounds like you have a great engineer!
Is it normal for steam to be released into the air? The boiler is outside and the flue is on the side. With a small cage around it.
Yes normal. Thanks for comment
Great job, very informative.
Thank you, glad you found it informative.
Very informative, thank you!
Thanks for the lovely comment! Have a good week. Rob
As I was saying just before Top Class Video, now I serviced a condenser boiler last week but I did "try" get the spiral s in the Tubulars spotless clean as the video tutorial recommended (this was a little used oil boiler but never serviced at 6 yrs old) and the hardened grease like stain on them was near impossible to get shing except after 2 hrs of scrubbing which is way to long to be doing on them ? It was like the hot dishwater had no effect on them, or a stronger detergent was needed, or their fine once you get the loose grease off never mind deep stains?) I guess thats where the experienced pro uses their savy? Was I just over cleaning...Thanks James
Hi. If the boiler has not been serviced for that long you will struggle to clean them totally unless you spend longer on it. If it has been so long the customer should have an extra labour charge for your extra time. Normally they clean in 10 mins or so. Hope this helps.
Thanks again (I wrote back last wk buyt see I didnt send button!!) for your Quick response! Yes I think thats a very fair point a lobour charge would be fair, it was welded to it stainwise, otherwise its alot of hours and responsibility for a cheap service!@@BartonOilBurnerServices Ive seen solide cooker and chimney sweeping be much much quicker no parts outlay for a near name prtice.
HAPPY Christmas buddy!!
@@jamesmd Happy Christams and new year.
Brilliantly explained… you would make a great trainer
Thanks for you comment. I am glad you enjoyed it . Trainer hey ?🤭
Thank you for informative videos.
Recently qualified and was never told about capacitors.
After watching your videos i had the correct van stock (spark electrodes, hoses, filters, nozzles etc) new multimeter that can test capacitors and my 1st 2 boilers had readings of around 1.5uf when they should of been 4.5uf and 4uf.
Paperwork seems to take me forever and im not sure if im going over board when i see reports from previous engineers with doctors handwriting " new nozzle" scribbled accross the boxes.
Regards from the yorkshire/lancashire boarder.
Well done mate and keep it up. It will all get easier with time. Have a good weekend.
Top job, one of best video about boiler service.
Thanks for the great comment. Have a good week!
It was a 4.5uf capacitor fitted to the burner originally. Why have you fitted a 5uf one?
Thanks for the comment. On the 26/36 they had a spell where they had 5uf ones, also some have 5uf on the wall mounts.
The one on this video was def a 5uf from factory as i have never changed it and it is fitted in my house!. Hope this helps you. Have a great weekend
@@BartonOilBurnerServices it literally says 4.5uf on it 😅
@@dariantakieh1398 That is so funny!! you are so right. Obviously blind that day 🤣Just watched it agin!! some do have 5 uf on though but you prob know that! Have a good weekend!
Cleanest exterior boiler I've ever seen. No webs
Always good to clean around before you start. There not normally that clean!!
amazing service dude wow
Thanks for the great comment. We do try. Have a good weekend!
Nice to see a job done right.
Thganks we try our hardest!
I've learned so much - thank you. Great work
Thanks for the lovely comment!
Great to hear! Have a good weekend!
Thank you for excellent explanation.
I have Same model .
It stope after while of running ??
I have to go out and press the RED button to start it again ??
Any idea how to fix this problem?
Pls advice ?
Hi. This could be many things but the most common will be the motor capacitor. Thanks for following us and hope this helps!
I'd highly recommend you not carry a burner by the nozzle pipe & definitely don't leave the power cabel resting on the hot blast tube of a burner that has just been running.
Thanks for the comment. I would not carry a burner by nozzle tube and never had . my hand was prob in that area but def not on tube. Also would never lay any cable on anything hot. The blast tube would have of been cold. All basic stuff. Have a great weekend.
@@BartonOilBurnerServices I was only offering a bit of advise & not trying to offend you, but clearly at 5:44 you are carrying the burner by the nozzle pipe. Otherwise pretty damn impressive service techniques.
@@alanfitzgerald6567 Sorry , You caught me off guard a bit. Yes i did hold by nozzle holder and yes that is wrong. I thgought you meant i was chucking it around! also i get what you mean about the power lead but it was cold. It is my own boiler . Thanks for the advise and have a great weekend. Rob
@@BartonOilBurnerServices no worries. I've been watching a few of your videos today & the stuff you put up about Sapphire boilers is really eye opening. Good stuff.
@@alanfitzgerald6567 The sapphire is a game changer. Get on the coarse mate, You will love it !
As someone else suggested, you'd make a good hands-on trainer...
Really good video, yes maybe a bit OCD in parts nevertheless a jewel of a lesson for any up and coming techies. I've a similar model Grant with identical burner but am in the west of Ireland so we don't get any of your types around these parts hence although !'m no oil engineer I have to try and tackle problems myself as they arise.
Your comment near the end about doing the air setting only when boilers at full temp was really interesting and mine is a nightmare for gathering soot so I'll have to check that. Thanks again for all the tips.. 👍
ps - shame about the speedy 'know it all' poster, clearly a car-crash waiting to happen! 🤣
Thanks for the great comment
Good man
Well Thank you 😀
With these external units I apply lithium grease on the external casing screws prevents seizing and drilling out! Also as with Riello combustion head I use copper grease on the head screws for the same reason!
we use copper grease alot. Great stuff!
Hi Rob, That is by far the best plumbing vlog / video I have ever watched. I'm a qualified plumber in my second year. I learned more in your vlog that I learned in 4 years in college. I now with in commercial but my domestic knowledge is limited... / was limited! Thanks for the vlog. I am happy to say I am now a subscriber. Looking forward to seeing you in the future.
Thank you so much for your comment. It is so nice to get such lovely feedback . Glad i have taught you something. Keep up the good work.
30 oil boilers in my housing estate i can tell you even if 3 of of them where serviced annually there not getting 30percent of the service than gone on here
I know it does my nut in. Thanks for the comment and have a good week.
Are the baffels in the correct position, are all the vortex baffles the same fitting 😊
Yes they are correct mate. I double checked in case! there are differnt baffles in the differnt output vortex as a rule
How much do you charge for that kinda service???
Hi. I dont discuss prices on you tube i am afraid but happy if you contact us direct to talk to you!
Fantastic, I've used this video numerous times. Great stuff.😊
Glad to here it and thanks for watching!
More servicing videos really helps me out because im learning oftec and these help a lot for experience 👍 great video
Thanks for the comment. We will doing plenty more service videos as time goes on so stay tuned! Have a good weekend
How much do you charge for a grant sevice jet and flexi.
Great content.
Thanks for the comment. I do not share prices on this platform for obvious reason, Happy to chat to you by phone if that helps! Keep up the good work!
Could you use a powerhouse instead of the small sprayer gun?
Hi. I do not see why not as long as the water shoots down the tubular hole and not everywhere! Thanks for the comment.
I done a mini service mate on my boiler and followed your instructions,however there is a terrible smell coming from the boiler when it's on,heating working fine though
Hi. Not sure you have something right there . Check it is the correct nozzle and a NEW one. Check for oil leaks etc. If it is Black smoking turn it off as you have made a error?
@BartonOilBurnerServices got sorted I didn't realise there was 3 more deep Chambers I hadn't cleaned,thank you
Im going to start doing what you do for servicing.
Thanks for the comment. It pays in the long run to avoid issues further down the road
I would love to see your technical way you service
Thanks for the comment. The best advise on servicing is knoe the products well and take your time and be thorough!
This shows how much is involved in a service
Most people will look at this and rather than have a go themselves will get expert in
Nice video keep up the good work
Thanks for the great comment. !!
very informative as ive never seen anything like that before btw i live in Missouri USA
Thank you for the lovely comment, Amazing you have watched us from so far away!
Where did you get the little extender for your DPG?
Hi Mate. It is a Riello Part. Part no 3008876. About £15. Hope this helps
Best place to get 20mm rope seal?
Hi. We buy it in reels ( i want to say 15m?) From Abgo spares 01902790900 or my rep is simon jones 07917772582. Hope this helps. Simon is great
Thank you for creating such a comprehensive and informative video. I live in a remote part of Cambs and, like many others, do not have a gas supply and have to depend on oil. If the latest government plans to ban oil boilers are passed, I imagine I will not be the only person to stockpile spare parts and keep my oil boiler operational for the foreseeable future. Thanks to your video, I now feel much more confident that I can do this myself in the event that oil boiler engineers disappear of the face of the Earth.
Thanks for the comment. Glad we have helped you. Ps we are not going to disappear either !
You have nothing to worry about...gas will be long gone before oil
Brilliant video
Thanks for the great comment!
Whats the difference between this oil burner and a normal gas condenser boiler. ? .
And before someone comes out with the smart answer one uses gas one uses oil thats not the answer I am looking for 😮😂
Thanks for the comment. The burner on an oil boiler has an oil pump to pressurised the oil to go through the nozzle to vaporise it which is then ignited, where as gas is just available on tap as it were to ignite it. Apart from that the basic boilers do the same thing. We do only however do gas so i could be slightly wrong!!!!!🤣
@@BartonOilBurnerServices thanks for your reply
@@Mr-BuBa Your welcome 😀
Why would you both doing all this? I just change the nozzle and analyse the boiler and never get problems or callbacks.
Thanks for your comment.
They arn't calling you back because they've found an engineer that is doing the job properly :)
@fonzoo my customers love me because significantly undercut all the other local engineers, yet I still make more profit than them, most days I do 10 services a day and make £700, home in time for countdown aswell.
Yee hawwww 🤠 you need to watch this video a few times and learn how to do ur job before you get reported by anyone of us real technicians and we hate cowboys. thanks Barton I learned a few new things in this vid keep up the great content !
@ryanbutler3375 Doesn't take a genius to remove a combustion door and hoover out some baffles, and I could teach a monkey to clean a oil filter. I just don't have time for that boring shit and my customers love me for being quick and cheap.