Good choice for Japan if you are hiking to hostelling IMHO. I've been traveling to Japan for over 30 years now and I just bought one of these for my next trip.
Thanks for the detailed info. You have made my decision easy now. I have only done a couple of long walks, with my old 40l rucksack which was completely crap in the rain, (I found a lake inside it when I opened it). I was thinking of either the 65l atmost ag or the lt version this time, but couldnt decide on which one to get. You have now made the decision for me. Its the LT version that I wil be getting. Thanks again.
Same here mate, am completely started putting my kit together and wanted I decent bag that is reliable and will last a few years, I was stuck between the same options as you now am just gonna grab the lt, also don’t know where you are based but if you are in the uk Trekkit have the lt very cheap 👍🏻👍🏻
I got a 65LT. One point about holding trekking poles is that they can be twisted into the ice axe loops and held tight with the top strap. It’s not convenient to move them on the go but it’s very secure- you’ll never lose them
Great comparison. I have the original AG 65 (which does have exactly the same rain cover in a pocket on the bottom!). Personally, I would make the same choice again today, as for me the LT's weight savings are minimal and I love the bottom access (I keep all my camp stuff in there; tarp, bivvy bag, sleeping bag + pad etc). I can get fully set up for camp by just opening the bottom section. I also wouldn't want to do without the side access and dual top pockets either just to save a few grams. This pack is lightweight compared to my army bergen and and Tatonka Bison 90+10 🙂 I love the mesh back panel, that as you say, means you can feel the wind rush across your back when you turn sideways to it. One thing you didn't mention is the bottom part of the mesh (around the waist and hip belts) has a sort of soft rubberised grippy layer on top of the mesh (I assume the other variants are the same?). I get the idea, as it does provide a bit of extra grip (although the hip belt design means it does really "hug" you round the waist naturally which is really nice). However, after the first 10 miles of use I noticed a bit of the rubberised material peeling away from the mesh. That first outing was a 100 mile section of the south coast of the UK and by the end of the hike most of the rubber material is now gone (there is some left on the hip belts). I don't think it really affects the function of the pack but wondered if anyone else has noticed or experienced this? The rest of the pack looks really durable but I think they'd have been better off not having this extra coating if it's not going to last more than a few miles.
Thanks for the helpful video! Researching hiking gear for hours can leave a person feeling like they’re heading into a black hole, haha. Thanks for pulling me out. Much respect.
@@WillFaulkner Your video helped me to understand the differences between the AG LT and the original AB. I'm leaning towards the LT , if I get the Osprey - which is likely. - But I am also considering the Gossamer Gear Mariposa 60.
The regular Atmos, has side openings in both sides. Plus bottom zipper. And extendable shoulder straps. This alone is worth the little extra weight imo.
I keep my shelter in the bottom compartment the "sleeping bag compartment" It means i dont even have to open the rest of my pack to get my shelter up works great for keeping things dry
@WillFaulkner i think they probably would however I keep them in my drinks bottle holder ! Some times i stuff my bag pretty tight and I have visions of snapping my poles or my pegs snagging my tent material
Thnx for such a good review! Noticed all of them have 2 versions size wise.. s-m and l-xl... can you explain here in comment please... what does it mean
The older version was in three sizes and the LT and new regular Atmos are just in two, which seems like a cost savings for Osprey. Size is based on your torso size. Go into an outdoor store that sells packs and get ur torso measured for the right size.
Question: I’m planning a two-month trip to Indonesia with a friend during the rainy season. We’ll be sleeping in hammocks for about three weeks, and I can’t decide between the AG 65 and the LT 65 packs. I’m leaning towards the AG because we’ll be changing locations daily, and the dedicated sleeping bag/hammock compartment would be convenient. Our clothes will be in the top compartment(because we are going to stay in a hostel after the 3weeks), which would be a hassle to access every day. I know this might sound like a basic question, but I just turned 18 and want to make sure I spend my money wisely (no help from parents).
Was thinking about getting something lighter than my Aether 65 but, NO. I love the Aether because you can get in from bottom, top and front. It's a bit heavier but with a Load range 30 - 60 lbs, you know you get the stability.
Why did Osprey replace all of the heavy duty plastic buckles with much flimsier buckles on their new packs? I just bought an Osprey Atmos AG 50 at REI for $315 (July 2024). I like the pack, but what is the advantage of the flimsy plastic buckles? Gregory still uses the heavy duty plastic. The weight difference couldn't be more than an ounce; did they really save lots of money? Also Osprey replaced the strong elastic cords that hold the hiking poles (as shown in your video) with much flimsier cords that will break after a few years. I've had an Osprey Stratos 36 and my wife has had a Sirrus 24 for ten years. They are great packs (and they both came with built in rain covers). Why the quality downgrade on the new Osprey packs? Did this happen after the company founder sold to Helen of Troy in 2021?
@@georgeboole1404 yea honestly it’s probably to make their costs cheaper. It’s unfortunate and I find similar things are happening with most outdoor gear brands.
I think you might have missed that your "old" AG 50 got replaced with a new AG series (differences are really minor). The AG LT series sits next to the new AG as just a less feature rich, lighter version of that. Nothing major, just the video presents the LT as a replacement for the AG which it's not meant to. LT is still a great choice 👍
Undoubtedly the most exceptional Osprey review you'll ever watch.
I absolutely agree. Very well organized and thorough.
Holy shit..... did this dude just give the best backpack buying guide on UA-cam
Thank you for the solid video, you've helped me very much with the final stage of decisions! I'mma go with the LT. Heading to Japan for 2 weeks!
That’s awesome ! So exciting !
Good choice for Japan if you are hiking to hostelling IMHO. I've been traveling to Japan for over 30 years now and I just bought one of these for my next trip.
Thanks for the detailed info. You have made my decision easy now. I have only done a couple of long walks, with my old 40l rucksack which was completely crap in the rain, (I found a lake inside it when I opened it). I was thinking of either the 65l atmost ag or the lt version this time, but couldnt decide on which one to get. You have now made the decision for me. Its the LT version that I wil be getting. Thanks again.
Same here mate, am completely started putting my kit together and wanted I decent bag that is reliable and will last a few years, I was stuck between the same options as you now am just gonna grab the lt, also don’t know where you are based but if you are in the uk Trekkit have the lt very cheap 👍🏻👍🏻
@@BiscuitsXL Thank you for the advice. And WoW!! Trekkit is a lot cheaper than where I was gonna get it from and it comes in my size too. Win Win.
Great breakdown of the two versions!
I got a 65LT. One point about holding trekking poles is that they can be twisted into the ice axe loops and held tight with the top strap. It’s not convenient to move them on the go but it’s very secure- you’ll never lose them
Ah good to know.
Great comparison. I have the original AG 65 (which does have exactly the same rain cover in a pocket on the bottom!).
Personally, I would make the same choice again today, as for me the LT's weight savings are minimal and I love the bottom access (I keep all my camp stuff in there; tarp, bivvy bag, sleeping bag + pad etc). I can get fully set up for camp by just opening the bottom section. I also wouldn't want to do without the side access and dual top pockets either just to save a few grams. This pack is lightweight compared to my army bergen and and Tatonka Bison 90+10 🙂
I love the mesh back panel, that as you say, means you can feel the wind rush across your back when you turn sideways to it. One thing you didn't mention is the bottom part of the mesh (around the waist and hip belts) has a sort of soft rubberised grippy layer on top of the mesh (I assume the other variants are the same?). I get the idea, as it does provide a bit of extra grip (although the hip belt design means it does really "hug" you round the waist naturally which is really nice). However, after the first 10 miles of use I noticed a bit of the rubberised material peeling away from the mesh.
That first outing was a 100 mile section of the south coast of the UK and by the end of the hike most of the rubber material is now gone (there is some left on the hip belts). I don't think it really affects the function of the pack but wondered if anyone else has noticed or experienced this? The rest of the pack looks really durable but I think they'd have been better off not having this extra coating if it's not going to last more than a few miles.
Thanks for the helpful video! Researching hiking gear for hours can leave a person feeling like they’re heading into a black hole, haha. Thanks for pulling me out. Much respect.
thanks for the vieo Will! you sold me an LT one
This answers the questions I had about the bags. I tried on the packs today.
Which one did you end up choosing ?
@@WillFaulkner Your video helped me to understand the differences between the AG LT and the original AB. I'm leaning towards the LT , if I get the Osprey - which is likely. - But I am also considering the Gossamer Gear Mariposa 60.
I just got an atmos ag 50 (not LT) yesterday and it came with the rain cover on the bottom beneath the sleeping bag access zipper.
Oh that’s good to know !
Such a useful video! LT is is then!
The regular Atmos, has side openings in both sides. Plus bottom zipper. And extendable shoulder straps. This alone is worth the little extra weight imo.
Agreed
Great review Will. Appreciated! Any way you could review/compare the Rook 65 with the AGLT 65?
Yea I’ll look into it
Would you use it for a thru hike on the AT
Does the AG/LT 65 have the same cushioning on the straps as the original 65 ??
Yup
I keep my shelter in the bottom compartment the "sleeping bag compartment"
It means i dont even have to open the rest of my pack to get my shelter up works great for keeping things dry
Yea that’s a great idea. Do the tent poles fit in there too?
@WillFaulkner i think they probably would however I keep them in my drinks bottle holder !
Some times i stuff my bag pretty tight and I have visions of snapping my poles or my pegs snagging my tent material
Thnx for such a good review!
Noticed all of them have 2 versions size wise.. s-m and l-xl... can you explain here in comment please... what does it mean
The older version was in three sizes and the LT and new regular Atmos are just in two, which seems like a cost savings for Osprey. Size is based on your torso size. Go into an outdoor store that sells packs and get ur torso measured for the right size.
Question: I’m planning a two-month trip to Indonesia with a friend during the rainy season. We’ll be sleeping in hammocks for about three weeks, and I can’t decide between the AG 65 and the LT 65 packs. I’m leaning towards the AG because we’ll be changing locations daily, and the dedicated sleeping bag/hammock compartment would be convenient. Our clothes will be in the top compartment(because we are going to stay in a hostel after the 3weeks), which would be a hassle to access every day. I know this might sound like a basic question, but I just turned 18 and want to make sure I spend my money wisely (no help from parents).
Can the detachable brain be used as a daypack or sling?
No, you could carry it but it has no built in strap
You could if you had a sling of your own but it’s not designed that way. I’ve thought the same thing, it’s not hard to rig it up.
If you want this you have to pay triple the price for the UNLTD 64 😂
and compareto to the exos 58?
Was thinking about getting something lighter than my Aether 65 but, NO. I love the Aether because you can get in from bottom, top and front. It's a bit heavier but with a Load range 30 - 60 lbs, you know you get the stability.
Does the LT65 has frontopening zippers?
@@tianzuo1337 it has the side ones, but not the front
Why did Osprey replace all of the heavy duty plastic buckles with much flimsier buckles on their new packs? I just bought an Osprey Atmos AG 50 at REI for $315 (July 2024). I like the pack, but what is the advantage of the flimsy plastic buckles? Gregory still uses the heavy duty plastic. The weight difference couldn't be more than an ounce; did they really save lots of money? Also Osprey replaced the strong elastic cords that hold the hiking poles (as shown in your video) with much flimsier cords that will break after a few years. I've had an Osprey Stratos 36 and my wife has had a Sirrus 24 for ten years. They are great packs (and they both came with built in rain covers). Why the quality downgrade on the new Osprey packs? Did this happen after the company founder sold to Helen of Troy in 2021?
They are valid questions 🙊
@@georgeboole1404 yea honestly it’s probably to make their costs cheaper. It’s unfortunate and I find similar things are happening with most outdoor gear brands.
My 1'st gen atmos ag 50 came with a raincover?
Thanks
the ag system is all you should focus on. its the most important part. the rest is just a standard back.
Agree, the ag system really is amazing
@@WillFaulkner is the ag better in the 65 or 65 lt?
@@rrew9362 regular ag is better
I think you might have missed that your "old" AG 50 got replaced with a new AG series (differences are really minor). The AG LT series sits next to the new AG as just a less feature rich, lighter version of that. Nothing major, just the video presents the LT as a replacement for the AG which it's not meant to. LT is still a great choice 👍
Yea I don’t see it as a replacement. It’s more to compare which one is best depending on your needs.
Is it possible to carry in snow and winter? i want to know.
Yes its definitely possible, however the exterior fabric is not water proof
@@WillFaulkner Can you please suggest any thing other than this one? Osprey Exos, 48 or Osprey Aether Plus, 70 ! Thank you very much.