I'm not sure how you can review a Mystery Ranch pack without mentioning their heritage: Dana Designs, and Dan Gleason himself. In the 80's there were really only two pack pack manufactures our there: Dana Designs and Gregory (Dana Gleason and Wayne Gregory). Thats it. Just two worth mentioning. Were there others? Yes, but these guys were so far ahead of the curve that there was no reason anyone serious would consider carrying anything else. Gregory is still, IMO, in the top 2 and as companies go, has been the only long standing high-end manufacturer (USA) that has managed to stick around consistently... well, sorta, Wayne sold "Gregory" decades ago and it has changes hands a couple times. But the "company" has been well run and continued to make top-tier packs (The Bartolo is the flagship). Dana Designs took another path, Dana Gleason sold the company and the buyer (K2 I believe) killed it... who knows why but Dana Designs packs disappeared... one of the two best in the world just sorta vanished. Must have made Dana Gleason Furious. Well, lucky Dana Gleason's non-complete must have run out and he started making his packs again under "Mystery Ranch". While Gregory's product line went main stream Mystery Ranch packs have sorta stayed under the radar Partly because most their market development is Military, Hunting and Firefighting... Luckily for all of us they are now back in the swing of producing a full recreational line and they are as bomb-proof as ever (Those that are old enough will get the 'Bomb Pack' reference ;-). The ArcFlex/Light suspensions of the past are gone, replaced with equally amazing modern systems. I carry Gregory Bartolo's for multi-day humps... but if I wear one out (hard to do as I also have a 30 year old Gregory Shasta still going strong) I will definitely pick up a current generation Mystery Ranch Terraplane or a Bridger... Terraplane, Bridger, Glacier... all Packs once produces under "Dana Designs"... Dana - Make the Bombpack again! ;-) Both Mystery and Gregory make the best packs out there... This are better? Both... they are both different and have different attributes. Which are more bomb proof - absolutely Mystery Ranch... but both are built to out last your ability to walk.
What an awesome comment!! Everyone else is saying Osprey this Osprey that. I have MR in my radar for a while now, but didn't think much of Gregory. Until now. Now I have to check it out.
I’m curious 🧐.. are you a writer, historian?? Or a bott? 😅Because you narrate facts with precision.. it takes a lot of time to put this together and write it
@@ilustradsn Not a Bot... just an aging gearhead that used to work in a Mtn. shop and sell both Gregory and Dana Designs back in the early 90's. Best job ever... before 'online' killed the local Mtn. Shop (RIP; Swallows Nest, A16 etc etc...Thank G Neptune Mtneering and Nomad Ventures still exist! ). I miss those days and sometimes I can't help myself.
Great video. I love the Osprey for their anti-gravity system. It really reduces the load allowing to move it to the hips instead of the shoulders, as it should be.
I own both the Mystery Ranch Bridger, and Osprey Atmos. My experience is almost the same as yours. The Bridger is the most comfortable pack I've ever worn, and does not feel heavy at all. The Airspeed/AG on the Osprey is like nothing else when it comes to breathability and the way it contours to your back. I've found though the Bridger is simply more comfortable on the shoulders after really long days on the trail. Some feel the Atmos can "sway" some, because of it's separation from your back. But most people don't notice this at all. One thing you didn't get into was the way the Baltoro/Deva (women's version) pack is designed is with a more shaped lumbar support. For some people this is an absolute godsend. For others, it is hard to fit their back. One simply has to try the pack on. They key of course is to buy the pack that fits you best. Agree with you on UL. That is it's own beast, and the LAST place someone should begin if going UL is with your backpack.
I agree, maybe it’s a new feature. I noticed my Atmos 50L has the same dual zippers as you mentioned above. It’s sort of annoying he doesn’t update his video.
I'm really glad that I scrolled down on this video, him complaining about main compartment access on the Atmos was the one thing that steering me towards the Baltoro. This is great to hear though, I really like the Atmos' suspension system so I think this is going to be the pack that I go with
@@thatroykid no worries. one of the best bags I’ve had on my back. Only things I’ve got to complain about is the zips on the waistband pockets require 2 hands to zip them up. Maybe they’ll wear in. But it means you need to be part contortionist to hold the pocket and zip it. And the top of the bag can make looking up a bit difficult because of the curve in the webbing. But besides them it’s spectacular. Just looking at it makes me wanna go out. 👍🏻
@@Alkelism I'm still going to get to a local shop and try on the Baltoro as well, since one of these will be my first multi-day pack. The thing that I like about the Baltoro is the easy access to the middle of pack, so I can easily get to my camera and drone. I just with the Baltoro had the suspension system of the Atmos, that would probably be my "perfect" backpack, even though there's no such thing lol
I’m curious how all of you feel about this now. Personally, I think the extra access isn’t worth as much as it seems. I pack gear into stuff sacks. So rummaging for a specific sack isn’t a big deal. Generally I like the atmos best of the three. Curious if anyone has new ideas.
I absolutely love my Gregory Deva (women's version of the Baltoro)! I am an organizational freak so all those pockets and front access are perfect. In addition, I am 50 years old and just got back into backpacking last summer, after 25 years of not backpacking. Used an old external frame pack from the 90s back then. But hey, I'd like a few "creature features" when I'm out in the backcountry now, like a chair, or God forbid, an extra pair or two of socks 🤣. These newer packs carry loads like a dream!
I have this pack too! So comfortable and lots of fit options. The outfitter switched out the shoulder straps (free of charge) to get the best fit for me. Maybe he can do a women’s specific gear video… 🤔
@@jenniferbostrom759 I had my straps switched out, free of charge, too! The hipbelts can be swapped for different sizes too, but the original one was good for me. REI was super helpful in getting the fit perfect for me.
Love your channel and the variety of things you do on it. I know being ultralight is not your style which I completely respect. But it sure would be fun to see a video of you going ultralight all the way from the backpack to every piece of gear. It would just be fun to see you experience that and what your takeaways would be from do it. I think you might be surprised on how lightweight you can go and still be quite comfortable. Just a thought for a future video. Or series of videos.😏 Shoot maybe you and Dan could do it together. That would be entertaining.
I got a Gregory 80 liter mountaineering backpack 18 years ago, been taking it up and down the canadian rockies and all over BC and Alberta, it has floated in a lake, fallen off a cliff, been shipped full cross country a dozen or more times, still as great as the day I got it. Comfortable, highly adjustable, water PROOF of just resistant. 100% would recommend Gregory
I was waiting for this showdown video… I really luv’d the look of the MR but at $350 😳 and limited availability I went with the Gregory Baltoro 2022 model. Was able find it at a great price over $100 less than MR. Happy Trails!
I really appreciate you focus on general backpacking. UltraLite backpacks are not for me either. Often I’m carrying some of my kids gear too so comfort, capacity and access are my top considerations. Thanks for repping those of us who just want it to be fun!
I have the atmos and its been my favorite pack. Love the breathability, the way it fits on my hip and the way it takes the weight off my lower back. Holds alot , has proven to be durable and its just a great pack. I have a bad back and it allows me to perform so much better and longer
I'm liking that Gregory pack for being able to access all the gear from the front, being a youtuber myself, I need to get at my camera gear and like that extra access point. I'm using the osprey aether 70 and the zipper doesn't go all the way around and it's a little tough to get at stuff.
For this weight and class of backpacks, definitely am going with the Mystery Ranch. The adjustable back length and the quick zip for sleeping bags not to mention the superior hip belt and quick water bottle access on the chest make this the perfect pack for 3 to 5 days. The design allows for quick access to bulky items like camera cubes and electronics.
The reviewer neglected to mention the most important part of the Atmos pack. It has one of the most customizable fitting systems of any pack on the market, including adjustable back length. The Atmos also allows you to put your water bottle at a 45 degree angle in the side pocket so you can grab it easily. This should have been way more in depth on all the packs.
Ha! Funny opening to the video. I’m an Osprey guy, so I’m biased, but as a well seasoned backpacker who’s hiked around the US & world, the Atmos is still my favorite go to backpack for multi-day excursions. Just super comfortable. I don’t mind that it doesn’t have front panel access to the middle of the pack. It’s not THAT hard to get stuff from the pack compared to others. When I wanna go really light, I have my Talon & Exos packs from Osprey. So I’m covered for pretty much for all my hiking needs. 👍🏼
Yesterday I stopped at REI, went to the garage sale section and what do I see? Like new Osprey Atmos 65 and like new Gregory Baltora 75. Each pack was $135.
Call me crazy but the osprey anti gravity packs make me feel like I'm being pulled backward. I got the Gregory Deva (same as Baltoro) and I absolutely love the way it hugs my body but feels like I'm carrying nothing at all. It's so comfy!! My husband just went into REI to upgrade to the Atmos but ended up getting the Baltoro because of it's insane comfortability (and maybe he was a little jealous of my sunglasses holder)!!
I have the Baltoro 75, and it is a fantastic backpack, use it for Philmont carries heavyweight in a way that no other bag I have had. Recommended for longer trips.
I spent a lot of time researching backpacks before I landed on the Osprey Atmos 65L and have no regrets. I spent a week on a grueling trail here in Ontario, Canada and while I most likely overpacked (around 48 lbs), this pack carried the weight beautifully. While the full zip on the other packs is a good idea and great when packing, I typically keep all of my essential items I might need in accessible areas. Everything else in the middle or at the bottom doesn't come out until I get to camp. Love the size because its also great for winter trips, lots of room for bulkier gear. Thanks for the great videos.
Thanks for sharing. I think the Granite Gear Blaze 60 is one backpack on the lighter side that I also recommend to people. It has nice adjustments for people dial it in for comfort, large enough that that they can still load it up until they learn to take what they really need and at 3 pounds, I do not consider it ultralight but a great balance. It is also durable enough to last but cheap enough to not break the bank.
It s nowhere near as comfortable as these packs.also durability is way overrated. Side pockets collect water like they were made for this purpose. Padding is too hard . I have no idea how is this backpack so highly rated. It costs ridiculous money in some countries.
I'd say yes... if you're sweating all over... your gear is getting heavier. It's even worse when the temperatures are in the extremes... very cold or very hot.
I have the Gregory...as a older hiker, 67, I've used it ...10 years? and had several back injuries and I've found the suspension system works very well for me. Enjoyed your reviews!
This is a good, balanced. perspective. Agreed that carry system and fit are, by far, the most important things. Mystery Ranch weighs a full pound more than the others, but it might be a "good" pound. My 5 lb Lowe Alpine has been good to me, so I agree that you have found the sweet spot for weight-vs-carry comfort.
Hi everyone! I have two backpacks. Those are: Osprey Atmos AG 65 L and Deuter Aircontact Pro 70+15 ( model of the year 2015 ). Thank You for the video! Greetings from Poland! Keep hiking! 😉🤠👍
❤ love this video. Studied every day for 2 years, every backpack, and he's right. It's Osprey, Mystery Ranch, and Gregory. As the best backpack makers. 😂 50 lbs for a 3 day trip is nuts. I live out of my 2000 Gregory Forester. Everything I own weighs 23lbs. That covers 24 hour a day usage. 365 days of hurricanes and heavy sun. Weighed it yesterday on the publix scale. Nicest pack in all of Miami Beach. Gregory is amazing. ❤
Good review. I really like (almost) everything about the Osprey Atmos. Tried it on at my local REI. Great suspension system and very comfortable. The deal-breaker for me is that it has no main compartment access, or very limited. I hate having to reach in from the side and feel around for something or dig down from the top looking for something in the middle of the pack or near the bottom. If they had front access like the other two bags in your review I would buy the Osprey, but as it's currently designed I have to pass.
I have the beltor 65 and really like it. I also have a mystery ranch day pack ( coulee 25 ) and love it as well. I’m not an expert , more of a beginner backpacker 🤙🏻.
Great info! I've been a diehard Mystery Ranch and Osprey fan. My EDC is a MR and My backcountry is an Aether 70 AG that I love. I got it specifically because it does have access to the inner components and has the AG harness. I have yet to find the perfect backpack for either EDC or Backcountry, but you can't go wrong with any you mentioned. I would HIGHLY recommend anyone test the fit before buying! If it doesn't fit your body right, none of these reviews matter! Fit and comfort are crucial for a backpack if you are going to hike any kind of distance.
I'm only 167cm tall with a s/m torso. Can Mystery Ranch be used well? I saw several reviews about the drinking water holder which will be on the shoulder. Is it possible that the bag is only for people who are 175 and above?
Excellent video IMO. Many gear channels focus on ultralight, which can work great, but require experience and can be costly. More traditional packs still is the best choice for most beginners.
Bridger 55's shoulder straps were pushing into the inside of my shoulders. The inside of my yoke was loose. It's a matter of fit, just save that receipt...
@BackpackingTV, I really would have preferred if you had included a comparison of how the Osprey AG system compares to what the others have. Osprey is known for this, and those who use it love it, but no mention of whether the competition's weight distribution systems work as well at lightening the load on your back.
@@firemarshaldil I found the information at a retailer site. There's also some info on the European osprey site under "New season style". Actually had to search for the Atmos,, but the women's Aura model is present there. Looks like the access to the main compartment is actually on each side. Also looks like they changed the torso length adjustment, making it less fiddly. Not sure if that's actually new, but they also state it's made from 100% recycled materials.
More zippers does not make you a more advanced backpacker. Having less zippers doesn't make a pack geared towards mid and entry level backpackers. I could actually argue that a pack with less zippers makes it geared towards more advanced users. Less zippers equals less failure points and more dependable on hardcore remote expeditions. So in essence the Osprey would be the more advanced user choice.
I can't believe no-one is mentioning how much of a pain in the butt the osprey is to get on and off. the shoulder straps d0 not open very much at all due to the cinch straps being so short....even went up a size to L/XL and didn't help any at all and this is mid summer with just a t shirt on, couldn't imagine wearing a jacket.The waist belt springs closed so tight also making it a pain to get on and off. I purchased mine 4 weeks ago, not sure if it has changed since this video. Returned and bought the Baltoro and the straps open so much wider, very easy to get on and off. I myself am new to backpacking and need to take more breaks than more experienced, so I'm sure this makes the problem really stand out to me as I am dropping my pack multiple times a day. I love the AG system the Atmos and really wanted to like this pack, but I just can't deal with getting it on and off. The Baltoro has been awesome for me.
Was wondering about how long Mystery Ranch has been making backpacks,,,.They seem pretty darn good, eventhough I am spoiled by my ULA Catalyst. Thanks Bro!
Mystery Ranch itself has been making packs since the early 2000’s and have won several military, firefighting, and police contracts. However they are a successor company to Dana Designs which has been making packs all the way back from the 80’s. Hope this helps and is at least a little informative.
The Bridger is a 5.5 pound pack! That's the weight of 2.5 liters of water! The price is $350.00! Look for the highly adjustable Osprey Aether, instead of the Osprey Atmos, or even better yet, the Arc Teryx Bora AR 63. I picked up both for under $250 each. I also own packs made by Kelty, Gossamer Gear, Gregory, and others, which are good choices, but the Arc Teryx Bora AR 63 comes out in top for adjustability, storage, water resistance, and how it bio mechanically interacts with your body. I
Landed on your channel while again when you guys were reviewing the Sea Telos and Alto. Currently looking for a new pack and I told myself oh you check that guy's channel 😂😂. Definitely have my eyes on the Mr Ranch based on the chest feature and the fact that you can open it from the front. I currently have the REI Flash 55 and I've been using it for 6-7 day trips. Love how light it's, but I need a bit more room. Will check our your review on the Mr. Ranch now. :)
Is mesh really that good on your back for not sweating? Wouldn't "nothing" be better? I mean it's the shape of the pack's back that makes it not touch your body, right?
I am surprised you didn't include the Fjällräven Kajka! It's heavy, but I think its the best backpack on the market and has been for many year. :) I love the Baltoro as well..its amazing! I can't fit Osprey very well, but maybe I will give MR a try and see how it does.. :)
I really miss the old Gregory packs with those huge cargo nets. G packs or Z packs? I can't remember. Really stretchy mesh fabric. Huge. You could stuff half the contents of the interior into that mesh cargo netting and I did that a bunch of times. It spoiled me. I need at least some exterior netting to shove layers into. That Mystery Ranch really looks nice with that load bearing system but I need a cargo net!
I would love your take and review on the Kelty coyote 85L or 105L backpack. Because I like to take fishing gear with me while backpacking. If you like to. Thanks for your videos love them they make me happy. Your tips help me a lot.
I have the Gregory Baltoro. It's great except the sternum strap won't stay put. I'll strap it across my chest but as I'm hiking it will ride up to my clavicles. The dual straps on the Bridger sounds like a great innovation. That might actually solve my problem.
damn, you might have sold me on mystery with that full open flay. I didnt even know I wanted that until I saw it. being able to get at any level of the pack without digging or unpacking sounds dope
damn, you might have sold me on mystery with that full open flay. I didnt even know I wanted that until I saw it. being able to get at any level of the pack without digging or unpacking sounds dope
My understanding regarding the aspect that you gave a ding regarding the Osprey Atmos, is that they’re having a new generation released sometime this spring, and that it addresses the issue that you mentioned. I’ve been waiting.
.. Huge fan of the dual access main compartment .. get at any particular piece of gear without having to dig through the rest ..which also allows a better formed ,,more comfortabe carry ....the detachable brain is a bonus for day trips from a high base camp ...can add a long cross soulder strap to wear as loose side carry ,,, or because of large size ,,design a wider cross body strap to wear as a slingpack ,,the large fanny pack is very uncomfortable and awkward .....or leave it off completely if carrying a smaller load .... not a fan of the chest harness of the MR ,but would have to try it on trail to get a true opinion... quality padded shoulder straps deffinitely carry heavy loads well...... pockets and water bottle pouches on quality padded hip belts are a plus ,IMO ...
The new Bridger 65 looks like a great pack. I recently purchased the Osprey Kestrel 58 to use as my backpacking pack. It's not as roomy as these but the front does open to reach all of your gear, unlike the Atmos, and it weighs about 2lbs less than the Bridger. That being said, I would still like to own the new Bridger 65 but in the 'wood' color they have available. -I also own a Rothco knockoff of the CFP-90 (this thing is huge, prob make a good INCH bag) -5.11 RUSH 72 with matching 5.11 IFAK, 5.11 Tactical tier system, Maxpedition Cocoon, Maxpedition TC-1 and Maxpedition TC-2 pouches attached. (Good for backwoods camping of up to a week or as a BOB) -3V Gear Velox II with IFAK, H2O pouch & a mag pouch that my Bahco Laplander fits perfectly. (Good for day hikes, overnighters or as a Get home bag) -Teton Sport explorer 65L (Makes a decent, inexpensive pack for backpacking)
They're not really cheaper. Deuter does have some similarly sized options that cost less than the Baltoro, but their load ratings are lower. Gregory also makes other models with the same volume and less weight capacity that are priced roughly the same as a comparable Deuter. Deuter's weight capacity ratings are weird and they don't offer a pack with a rating comparable to the Baltoro 65 (50lbs). You get either several pounds under with the Futura Air and Core series or several pounds over with the X series, the latter coming with an even higher price tag than the Baltoro. My teenage daughter has a 50+10 Core and she really likes it. The brand as a whole might get more attention if they'd clean up their load ratings because as it is now a 95 liter Aircontact X is about $450 IF you can even find one and it has the same 66lb load rating as the 75 liter X, while the 100 liter Baltoro has a 75lb rating and is in the $420 range.
That must be it 🤦♂️. Couldn't be he either hasn't used it or doesn't agree on it could it?. I mean, people can't have different views or by the sounds of you their own buyer bias.
I'm not sure how you can review a Mystery Ranch pack without mentioning their heritage: Dana Designs, and Dan Gleason himself. In the 80's there were really only two pack pack manufactures our there: Dana Designs and Gregory (Dana Gleason and Wayne Gregory). Thats it. Just two worth mentioning. Were there others? Yes, but these guys were so far ahead of the curve that there was no reason anyone serious would consider carrying anything else. Gregory is still, IMO, in the top 2 and as companies go, has been the only long standing high-end manufacturer (USA) that has managed to stick around consistently... well, sorta, Wayne sold "Gregory" decades ago and it has changes hands a couple times. But the "company" has been well run and continued to make top-tier packs (The Bartolo is the flagship). Dana Designs took another path, Dana Gleason sold the company and the buyer (K2 I believe) killed it... who knows why but Dana Designs packs disappeared... one of the two best in the world just sorta vanished. Must have made Dana Gleason Furious. Well, lucky Dana Gleason's non-complete must have run out and he started making his packs again under "Mystery Ranch". While Gregory's product line went main stream Mystery Ranch packs have sorta stayed under the radar Partly because most their market development is Military, Hunting and Firefighting... Luckily for all of us they are now back in the swing of producing a full recreational line and they are as bomb-proof as ever (Those that are old enough will get the 'Bomb Pack' reference ;-). The ArcFlex/Light suspensions of the past are gone, replaced with equally amazing modern systems. I carry Gregory Bartolo's for multi-day humps... but if I wear one out (hard to do as I also have a 30 year old Gregory Shasta still going strong) I will definitely pick up a current generation Mystery Ranch Terraplane or a Bridger... Terraplane, Bridger, Glacier... all Packs once produces under "Dana Designs"... Dana - Make the Bombpack again! ;-) Both Mystery and Gregory make the best packs out there... This are better? Both... they are both different and have different attributes. Which are more bomb proof - absolutely Mystery Ranch... but both are built to out last your ability to walk.
What an awesome comment!! Everyone else is saying Osprey this Osprey that. I have MR in my radar for a while now, but didn't think much of Gregory. Until now. Now I have to check it out.
Thanks for the background. Great read. Happy hiking.
I’m curious 🧐.. are you a writer, historian?? Or a bott? 😅Because you narrate facts with precision.. it takes a lot of time to put this together and write it
Absolutely! This guy is great, but all these top UA-camrs are kids. I literally just threw away my 1996 Terraplane last night.
@@ilustradsn Not a Bot... just an aging gearhead that used to work in a Mtn. shop and sell both Gregory and Dana Designs back in the early 90's. Best job ever... before 'online' killed the local Mtn. Shop (RIP; Swallows Nest, A16 etc etc...Thank G Neptune Mtneering and Nomad Ventures still exist! ). I miss those days and sometimes I can't help myself.
The Atmos AG 65 now has side zips to access the main compartment :D
Great video. I love the Osprey for their anti-gravity system. It really reduces the load allowing to move it to the hips instead of the shoulders, as it should be.
I own both the Mystery Ranch Bridger, and Osprey Atmos. My experience is almost the same as yours. The Bridger is the most comfortable pack I've ever worn, and does not feel heavy at all. The Airspeed/AG on the Osprey is like nothing else when it comes to breathability and the way it contours to your back. I've found though the Bridger is simply more comfortable on the shoulders after really long days on the trail. Some feel the Atmos can "sway" some, because of it's separation from your back. But most people don't notice this at all.
One thing you didn't get into was the way the Baltoro/Deva (women's version) pack is designed is with a more shaped lumbar support. For some people this is an absolute godsend. For others, it is hard to fit their back. One simply has to try the pack on.
They key of course is to buy the pack that fits you best.
Agree with you on UL. That is it's own beast, and the LAST place someone should begin if going UL is with your backpack.
I bought the Atmos 65XL 3 weeks ago it’s had the access to the main compartment upgraded. It now has 2 access points into it. One in either side. 👍🏻
I agree, maybe it’s a new feature. I noticed my Atmos 50L has the same dual zippers as you mentioned above. It’s sort of annoying he doesn’t update his video.
I'm really glad that I scrolled down on this video, him complaining about main compartment access on the Atmos was the one thing that steering me towards the Baltoro. This is great to hear though, I really like the Atmos' suspension system so I think this is going to be the pack that I go with
@@thatroykid no worries. one of the best bags I’ve had on my back. Only things I’ve got to complain about is the zips on the waistband pockets require 2 hands to zip them up. Maybe they’ll wear in. But it means you need to be part contortionist to hold the pocket and zip it. And the top of the bag can make looking up a bit difficult because of the curve in the webbing. But besides them it’s spectacular. Just looking at it makes me wanna go out. 👍🏻
@@Alkelism I'm still going to get to a local shop and try on the Baltoro as well, since one of these will be my first multi-day pack. The thing that I like about the Baltoro is the easy access to the middle of pack, so I can easily get to my camera and drone. I just with the Baltoro had the suspension system of the Atmos, that would probably be my "perfect" backpack, even though there's no such thing lol
I’m curious how all of you feel about this now. Personally, I think the extra access isn’t worth as much as it seems. I pack gear into stuff sacks. So rummaging for a specific sack isn’t a big deal. Generally I like the atmos best of the three. Curious if anyone has new ideas.
That Mystery Back Pack looks very heavy duty and nice. I'm sure it carries the weight well.
It excels at carrying heavy loads!
Does the Osprey Aether 65 fit into this category? If so, how does it stack up?
I absolutely love my Gregory Deva (women's version of the Baltoro)! I am an organizational freak so all those pockets and front access are perfect. In addition, I am 50 years old and just got back into backpacking last summer, after 25 years of not backpacking. Used an old external frame pack from the 90s back then. But hey, I'd like a few "creature features" when I'm out in the backcountry now, like a chair, or God forbid, an extra pair or two of socks 🤣. These newer packs carry loads like a dream!
I have this pack too! So comfortable and lots of fit options. The outfitter switched out the shoulder straps (free of charge) to get the best fit for me.
Maybe he can do a women’s specific gear video… 🤔
@@jenniferbostrom759 I had my straps switched out, free of charge, too! The hipbelts can be swapped for different sizes too, but the original one was good for me. REI was super helpful in getting the fit perfect for me.
Love your channel and the variety of things you do on it.
I know being ultralight is not your style which I completely respect.
But it sure would be fun to see a video of you going ultralight all the way from the backpack to every piece of gear. It would just be fun to see you experience that and what your takeaways would be from do it.
I think you might be surprised on how lightweight you can go and still be quite comfortable.
Just a thought for a future video. Or series of videos.😏
Shoot maybe you and Dan could do it together. That would be entertaining.
Check out this Ultralight Backpack review: ua-cam.com/video/ZDajoatEz24/v-deo.html
I got a Gregory 80 liter mountaineering backpack 18 years ago, been taking it up and down the canadian rockies and all over BC and Alberta, it has floated in a lake, fallen off a cliff, been shipped full cross country a dozen or more times, still as great as the day I got it. Comfortable, highly adjustable, water PROOF of just resistant. 100% would recommend Gregory
I was waiting for this showdown video… I really luv’d the look of the MR but at $350 😳 and limited availability I went with the Gregory Baltoro 2022 model. Was able find it at a great price over $100 less than MR. Happy Trails!
I really appreciate you focus on general backpacking. UltraLite backpacks are not for me either. Often I’m carrying some of my kids gear too so comfort, capacity and access are my top considerations.
Thanks for repping those of us who just want it to be fun!
I'm still rocking my Osprey Atmos 50L from 2001!!!!
I have the atmos and its been my favorite pack. Love the breathability, the way it fits on my hip and the way it takes the weight off my lower back. Holds alot , has proven to be durable and its just a great pack. I have a bad back and it allows me to perform so much better and longer
I'm liking that Gregory pack for being able to access all the gear from the front, being a youtuber myself, I need to get at my camera gear and like that extra access point. I'm using the osprey aether 70 and the zipper doesn't go all the way around and it's a little tough to get at stuff.
FYI…The Baltoro has a sweet removable shelf over the sleeping bag compartment that can hold an ICU square in the middle or your back.
For this weight and class of backpacks, definitely am going with the Mystery Ranch. The adjustable back length and the quick zip for sleeping bags not to mention the superior hip belt and quick water bottle access on the chest make this the perfect pack for 3 to 5 days. The design allows for quick access to bulky items like camera cubes and electronics.
The reviewer neglected to mention the most important part of the Atmos pack. It has one of the most customizable fitting systems of any pack on the market, including adjustable back length. The Atmos also allows you to put your water bottle at a 45 degree angle in the side pocket so you can grab it easily. This should have been way more in depth on all the packs.
That's one of the most interesting innovations I've seen. Going to be hard to copy.
I wish I could find a review of the mystery ranch from someone other than a sponsored person
agree
Ha! Funny opening to the video. I’m an Osprey guy, so I’m biased, but as a well seasoned backpacker who’s hiked around the US & world, the Atmos is still my favorite go to backpack for multi-day excursions. Just super comfortable. I don’t mind that it doesn’t have front panel access to the middle of the pack. It’s not THAT hard to get stuff from the pack compared to others. When I wanna go really light, I have my Talon & Exos packs from Osprey. So I’m covered for pretty much for all my hiking needs. 👍🏼
Yesterday I stopped at REI, went to the garage sale section and what do I see? Like new Osprey Atmos 65 and like new Gregory Baltora 75. Each pack was $135.
Call me crazy but the osprey anti gravity packs make me feel like I'm being pulled backward. I got the Gregory Deva (same as Baltoro) and I absolutely love the way it hugs my body but feels like I'm carrying nothing at all. It's so comfy!! My husband just went into REI to upgrade to the Atmos but ended up getting the Baltoro because of it's insane comfortability (and maybe he was a little jealous of my sunglasses holder)!!
haha yeah that sunglasses holder is legit!
I have the Baltoro 75, and it is a fantastic backpack, use it for Philmont carries heavyweight in a way that no other bag I have had. Recommended for longer trips.
I spent a lot of time researching backpacks before I landed on the Osprey Atmos 65L and have no regrets. I spent a week on a grueling trail here in Ontario, Canada and while I most likely overpacked (around 48 lbs), this pack carried the weight beautifully. While the full zip on the other packs is a good idea and great when packing, I typically keep all of my essential items I might need in accessible areas. Everything else in the middle or at the bottom doesn't come out until I get to camp. Love the size because its also great for winter trips, lots of room for bulkier gear. Thanks for the great videos.
Can confirm the trails in Ontario can be gruelling. Also hike them.
Thanks for sharing. I think the Granite Gear Blaze 60 is one backpack on the lighter side that I also recommend to people. It has nice adjustments for people dial it in for comfort, large enough that that they can still load it up until they learn to take what they really need and at 3 pounds, I do not consider it ultralight but a great balance. It is also durable enough to last but cheap enough to not break the bank.
It s nowhere near as comfortable as these packs.also durability is way overrated. Side pockets collect water like they were made for this purpose. Padding is too hard . I have no idea how is this backpack so highly rated. It costs ridiculous money in some countries.
big question. Do you think the breathability of the Atmos is very significant as compared to the Bridger?
I'd say yes... if you're sweating all over... your gear is getting heavier. It's even worse when the temperatures are in the extremes... very cold or very hot.
Good reviews, but it would be helpful if you showed how well (or if) bear cans fit in these since so many places require their use now. Cheers
You can fit 48 beer cans in these, lol
I've been looking for something to replace my old A.L.I.C.E. pack. 😅
I have the Gregory...as a older hiker, 67, I've used it ...10 years? and had several back injuries and I've found the suspension system works very well for me.
Enjoyed your reviews!
Man same thought when I saw that mystery ranch pack I immediately said that looks like a comfy ride. Great content man!
This is a good, balanced. perspective.
Agreed that carry system and fit are, by far, the most important things.
Mystery Ranch weighs a full pound more than the others, but it might be a "good" pound.
My 5 lb Lowe Alpine has been good to me, so I agree that you have found the sweet spot for weight-vs-carry comfort.
Hi everyone! I have two backpacks. Those are: Osprey Atmos AG 65 L and Deuter Aircontact Pro 70+15 ( model of the year 2015 ). Thank You for the video! Greetings from Poland! Keep hiking! 😉🤠👍
bought a 2021 Baltoro on sale when new. Still has the tags on it, work related injury kept me out of the woods since 2021!
Bridger vs Glacier MR
❤ love this video. Studied every day for 2 years, every backpack, and he's right. It's Osprey, Mystery Ranch, and Gregory. As the best backpack makers.
😂 50 lbs for a 3 day trip is nuts. I live out of my 2000 Gregory Forester. Everything I own weighs 23lbs. That covers 24 hour a day usage. 365 days of hurricanes and heavy sun. Weighed it yesterday on the publix scale. Nicest pack in all of Miami Beach. Gregory is amazing. ❤
Very helpful. Thank you. Will try the Bridger as I need comfort, though they all 3 seem good. 💪🏽👏🏼🥾
Good review. I really like (almost) everything about the Osprey Atmos. Tried it on at my local REI. Great suspension system and very comfortable. The deal-breaker for me is that it has no main compartment access, or very limited. I hate having to reach in from the side and feel around for something or dig down from the top looking for something in the middle of the pack or near the bottom. If they had front access like the other two bags in your review I would buy the Osprey, but as it's currently designed I have to pass.
I have the 2022 Atmos 50 and it has full length zippers on both sides to access the inside of the back.
The Baltoro is my go to now. Abita heavy like you said but the added features and the water bottle holder you can't go wrong.
lol Wayne Gregory is my grandpa
Mystery Ranch ALL THE WAY!
Def.
But so many straps and buckles I feel like I'm in a straight jacket lol
Enjoyed the video. I have multiple Baltoros (different capacities). I'm hooked on Gregory.
I have the beltor 65 and really like it. I also have a mystery ranch day pack ( coulee 25 ) and love it as well. I’m not an expert , more of a beginner backpacker 🤙🏻.
I'm rocking a $40 mountain top 70 liter backpack that I found at a pawn shop lol
I have the osprey aether 70
And Iove it
Super comfortable
Great ruck sack from osprey
👏👏👏
What is the hoodie Eric is wearing? Looks nice and I want one!
Now we need an Aether vs. Baltoro Pro vs. Terraplane.
Great info! I've been a diehard Mystery Ranch and Osprey fan. My EDC is a MR and My backcountry is an Aether 70 AG that I love. I got it specifically because it does have access to the inner components and has the AG harness. I have yet to find the perfect backpack for either EDC or Backcountry, but you can't go wrong with any you mentioned. I would HIGHLY recommend anyone test the fit before buying! If it doesn't fit your body right, none of these reviews matter! Fit and comfort are crucial for a backpack if you are going to hike any kind of distance.
100%
Granite Gear Blaze 60 can be added to that list
65 L for 2 to 5 days….. That’s cute. 😜
how do these three compare to the osprey aether?
I'll ask again do you have any mystery ranch backpacks that you did not like?
lol
Mt man here watching 👍👍 still got my pack the rock from year 09 still going strong
The rokk
Hello, I have the Osprey Atmos 65 L. It is a wonderful pack. I wish it was lighter.
I'm only 167cm tall with a s/m torso. Can Mystery Ranch be used well? I saw several reviews about the drinking water holder which will be on the shoulder. Is it possible that the bag is only for people who are 175 and above?
Excellent video IMO. Many gear channels focus on ultralight, which can work great, but require experience and can be costly. More traditional packs still is the best choice for most beginners.
Just got a Bridger. Can’t wait to try it!
Excellent! Enjoy it!
Bridger 55's shoulder straps were pushing into the inside of my shoulders. The inside of my yoke was loose. It's a matter of fit, just save that receipt...
@BackpackingTV, I really would have preferred if you had included a comparison of how the Osprey AG system compares to what the others have. Osprey is known for this, and those who use it love it, but no mention of whether the competition's weight distribution systems work as well at lightening the load on your back.
Apparently there's a new version of the Atmos for 2022 that adds front (or back, depending on how you look at it) access to the main compartment.
thats the second time ive seen reference to there being more info on 2022 releases of osprey packs, any idea where the info is posted?
@@firemarshaldil I found the information at a retailer site. There's also some info on the European osprey site under "New season style". Actually had to search for the Atmos,, but the women's Aura model is present there. Looks like the access to the main compartment is actually on each side. Also looks like they changed the torso length adjustment, making it less fiddly. Not sure if that's actually new, but they also state it's made from 100% recycled materials.
What is the difference between osprey AG 65 vs AG LT 65. I noticed the AG 65 was 340 vs 290 for the one you covered? Thanks
$270... mine cost $320... must have went up... bought last week
If you want to be able to get into the center of your osprey pack, the aether is the cousin to the atmos and has the fully opening front zip.
More zippers does not make you a more advanced backpacker. Having less zippers doesn't make a pack geared towards mid and entry level backpackers. I could actually argue that a pack with less zippers makes it geared towards more advanced users. Less zippers equals less failure points and more dependable on hardcore remote expeditions. So in essence the Osprey would be the more advanced user choice.
I can't believe no-one is mentioning how much of a pain in the butt the osprey is to get on and off. the shoulder straps d0 not open very much at all due to the cinch straps being so short....even went up a size to L/XL and didn't help any at all and this is mid summer with just a t shirt on, couldn't imagine wearing a jacket.The waist belt springs closed so tight also making it a pain to get on and off. I purchased mine 4 weeks ago, not sure if it has changed since this video. Returned and bought the Baltoro and the straps open so much wider, very easy to get on and off. I myself am new to backpacking and need to take more breaks than more experienced, so I'm sure this makes the problem really stand out to me as I am dropping my pack multiple times a day. I love the AG system the Atmos and really wanted to like this pack, but I just can't deal with getting it on and off. The Baltoro has been awesome for me.
Was wondering about how long Mystery Ranch has been making backpacks,,,.They seem pretty darn good, eventhough I am spoiled by my ULA Catalyst. Thanks Bro!
Mystery Ranch itself has been making packs since the early 2000’s and have won several military, firefighting, and police contracts. However they are a successor company to Dana Designs which has been making packs all the way back from the 80’s. Hope this helps and is at least a little informative.
Is there a special reason for not having Fjällräven backs in your line-up? Just wondering if you tried them out and how they compare.
The Bridger is a 5.5 pound pack!
That's the weight of 2.5 liters of water!
The price is $350.00!
Look for the highly adjustable Osprey Aether, instead of the Osprey Atmos, or even better yet, the Arc Teryx Bora AR 63.
I picked up both for under $250 each.
I also own packs made by Kelty, Gossamer Gear, Gregory, and others, which are good choices, but the Arc Teryx Bora AR 63 comes out in top for adjustability, storage, water resistance, and how it bio mechanically interacts with your body.
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Landed on your channel while again when you guys were reviewing the Sea Telos and Alto. Currently looking for a new pack and I told myself oh you check that guy's channel 😂😂. Definitely have my eyes on the Mr Ranch based on the chest feature and the fact that you can open it from the front. I currently have the REI Flash 55 and I've been using it for 6-7 day trips. Love how light it's, but I need a bit more room. Will check our your review on the Mr. Ranch now. :)
Very nice review!:) I have the 2020 baltore 95pro, and it carries the weight very well, i can carrie it fully loaded, and i am only 174cm 70kg
Is mesh really that good on your back for not sweating? Wouldn't "nothing" be better? I mean it's the shape of the pack's back that makes it not touch your body, right?
I am surprised you didn't include the Fjällräven Kajka! It's heavy, but I think its the best backpack on the market and has been for many year. :)
I love the Baltoro as well..its amazing! I can't fit Osprey very well, but maybe I will give MR a try and see how it does.. :)
Probably can't pronounce it
Hi sirs, may I please ask are these backpacks okay for handcarry in the airplane? Or need to check in baggage?
I really miss the old Gregory packs with those huge cargo nets. G packs or Z packs? I can't remember. Really stretchy mesh fabric. Huge. You could stuff half the contents of the interior into that mesh cargo netting and I did that a bunch of times. It spoiled me. I need at least some exterior netting to shove layers into. That Mystery Ranch really looks nice with that load bearing system but I need a cargo net!
Bridger or Terraplane 65 from Mystery Ranch? :)
You keep saying for 2-5 day backpacking. What do you got for trail dogs out on 9 day stints carrying an extra 20 pounds of metal?
9:15 My Osprey Atoms 50L has side zippers so I can access the larger middle. Does the 65L not come with that feature?
I would love your take and review on the Kelty coyote 85L or 105L backpack. Because I like to take fishing gear with me while backpacking. If you like to. Thanks for your videos love them they make me happy. Your tips help me a lot.
Ounces equal pounds and pounds of padding and harness & suspension features equals comfort.
I have the Gregory Baltoro. It's great except the sternum strap won't stay put. I'll strap it across my chest but as I'm hiking it will ride up to my clavicles. The dual straps on the Bridger sounds like a great innovation. That might actually solve my problem.
damn, you might have sold me on mystery with that full open flay. I didnt even know I wanted that until I saw it. being able to get at any level of the pack without digging or unpacking sounds dope
The Atmos AG 65 has an updated version which removes the lid flap and has side access to the main compartments. 0.1kg more though.
damn, you might have sold me on mystery with that full open flay. I didnt even know I wanted that until I saw it. being able to get at any level of the pack without digging or unpacking sounds dope
Hey bro what’s a good travel backpack to travel to Europe 2-3 weeks
You need to try klattermusen or Lundhags, let me know after what is the best backpack :)
Hi there, Love your videos. Where do you get your pants and shirts?
The Bridger looks like you're wearing a BRA.
None of these can equal the old Jamsport Katahdin 70.
My understanding regarding the aspect that you gave a ding regarding the Osprey Atmos, is that they’re having a new generation released sometime this spring, and that it addresses the issue that you mentioned. I’ve been waiting.
Where I can buy mystery ranch to ship up to Indonesia
Baltoro 65L retails for $319, not $299.
.. Huge fan of the dual access main compartment .. get at any particular piece of gear without having to dig through the rest ..which also allows a better formed ,,more comfortabe carry ....the detachable brain is a bonus for day trips from a high base camp ...can add a long cross soulder strap to wear as loose side carry ,,, or because of large size ,,design a wider cross body strap to wear as a slingpack ,,the large fanny pack is very uncomfortable and awkward .....or leave it off completely if carrying a smaller load .... not a fan of the chest harness of the MR ,but would have to try it on trail to get a true opinion... quality padded shoulder straps deffinitely carry heavy loads well...... pockets and water bottle pouches on quality padded hip belts are a plus ,IMO ...
The new Bridger 65 looks like a great pack. I recently purchased the Osprey Kestrel 58 to use as my backpacking pack. It's not as roomy as these but the front does open to reach all of your gear, unlike the Atmos, and it weighs about 2lbs less than the Bridger. That being said, I would still like to own the new Bridger 65 but in the 'wood' color they have available.
-I also own a Rothco knockoff of the CFP-90 (this thing is huge, prob make a good INCH bag)
-5.11 RUSH 72 with matching 5.11 IFAK, 5.11 Tactical tier system, Maxpedition Cocoon, Maxpedition TC-1 and Maxpedition TC-2 pouches attached. (Good for backwoods camping of up to a week or as a BOB)
-3V Gear Velox II with IFAK, H2O pouch & a mag pouch that my Bahco Laplander fits perfectly. (Good for day hikes, overnighters or as a Get home bag)
-Teton Sport explorer 65L (Makes a decent, inexpensive pack for backpacking)
Thanks for your advice ttyl
how about Thule Guidepost 85?
Awesome stuff. Welcome to my home county 😊
Hello 👋 Eric, great review of all three backpacks 🎒. Thank you for sharing. Stay safe out there. 🤗
Surprised Deuter is virtually absent on these youtube reviews. It looks interesting and cheaper than most in tis category. Wonder why that is...
They're not really cheaper. Deuter does have some similarly sized options that cost less than the Baltoro, but their load ratings are lower. Gregory also makes other models with the same volume and less weight capacity that are priced roughly the same as a comparable Deuter. Deuter's weight capacity ratings are weird and they don't offer a pack with a rating comparable to the Baltoro 65 (50lbs). You get either several pounds under with the Futura Air and Core series or several pounds over with the X series, the latter coming with an even higher price tag than the Baltoro.
My teenage daughter has a 50+10 Core and she really likes it. The brand as a whole might get more attention if they'd clean up their load ratings because as it is now a 95 liter Aircontact X is about $450 IF you can even find one and it has the same 66lb load rating as the 75 liter X, while the 100 liter Baltoro has a 75lb rating and is in the $420 range.
I now use the new exos 48 far more comfortable for me and a joy to wear
Why the Berghaus Vulcan is not in that number?
Are you scared of the best backpack ever???
That must be it 🤦♂️. Couldn't be he either hasn't used it or doesn't agree on it could it?. I mean, people can't have different views or by the sounds of you their own buyer bias.
I have an osprey aether 65l and love it, thanks for the great videos!
Curious for some sub $200 packs.